The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #435: The Smoke Detector
Episode Date: April 30, 2026October 13, 2016 - Adam and Drew open today’s show by going straight to the phones and speaking with a caller who is wondering if they should speak up when they see a systemic problem in th...eir workplace that their superiors are not addressing. They then speak to a caller who is concerned that her mother who recently suffered from a stroke may have a future of more health complications due to her history of using drugs. As the show winds down they speak to another caller who is considering taking a run at a girl he knows despite the fact that she has a boyfriend.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This is Throwback Episode 435, the smoke detector.
October 13th, 2016.
We'll open up by talking on the phone, taking some calls.
Then we'll speak to callers concerned about her mother,
recently suffered from a stroke,
and we'll wind out with some more callers.
Call, complain, best of, enjoy.
Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla,
and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky.
You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show.
Yeah, get it on. Got to get on.
The judge is going to get it on.
Welcome to the show.
Thanks for listening.
Appreciate that.
That's right.
Yeah, man.
Drewski, what are you doing?
texting somebody?
I was finishing an email before we heated these things up.
I didn't realize we were going so fast.
Sure.
I'll be done in a second.
Who could have ever.
That music does change week to week, to be fair.
I started before you guys gave the finger, so for fair.
It's all done.
Who are you right, man?
What's going on?
My office, my staff.
I've got something I've got to deal with tomorrow with my patient.
Uh-oh.
And I want to make sure I didn't forget.
So I don't have a Matt Porcelain Punisher to run around to help me out like that.
I wish I did.
Yeah.
I tell them stuff all the time.
Put it down.
Remind me.
I don't know.
It'd be quite a thing.
Someday, one day.
I'll tell you, ma'am.
I can, I was, it took me a million years to figure out how to use an assistant.
But what you have to do is you have to talk to them on the phone all the time and go, write this down.
Remind me, remind me, remind me, remind me, bring this up.
Yeah.
Go look up to that.
Just keep doing it.
All right.
Let's go to line two.
Let's just go write the calls, yeah?
All right.
Are you on chat?
No.
I want to talk to.
Oh, I had something I want to talk about.
But go ahead.
What do you want to do?
I'll hold it first time.
Talk to Natalie down here.
This is an interesting thing.
Natalie, 34, San Francisco.
Hi, guys.
Hi.
Hi, guy.
Thank you for taking.
Hey, guys.
Hey, no.
Hi, Dr. Drew.
Hi, Adam.
Natalie.
You know, I have a question from preferably an employer's perspective.
Would you prefer an employee who raised their hand if something seemed off?
or maybe a process could go better.
Or would you prefer an employee just kind of,
I'm kind of caught between either being seen as a team player
and maybe just kind of being quiet
or raising my hand and possibly being viewed as a non-team player.
And in terms of being team players,
is it a militaristic system where there's this clear hierarchy?
You know, not necessarily.
It's more of a startup company where all processes aren't necessarily.
Do you ever read the business section of the New York Times where they have those interviews on the back of the front page where they always say they have employers, you know, CEO and things like, what do you, what do you want for your employees?
All these questions about it's a Q&A section.
And they're always asking, you know, how do you create a certain business culture and a business environment and what do you want for your employees?
It's always the same thing.
We want people to think independently.
We want them to feel like their opinions matter.
We want them to feel comfortable bringing them forward.
We may not use them, but at least we want to hear what they've got to say.
And we want them to understand that even though we may not use them, we value them.
I mean, why wouldn't you?
You want to get the most out of the culture and the employees you have.
If somebody has a great idea and they don't tell you, it would be terrible.
Yeah, but that may not be this.
Well, that's the question.
Some people are pain in the ass.
Well, but pains in the ass are usually always piping up.
right
Adam I actually
by
to be fair
I actually am
right I can't be
hold up
Gary's always piping up
well no
I see what you're making
I don't get it I totally get it
Drew based on her question
when she says systemic
that to me means
it's not a great idea
it's more she's got a problem
with how things are being run
well what tells the specifics
yeah
so you know
when you work for a startup
everything is new
so it's developing
system
system. Give us a specific.
Hold on you. No, I didn't hang on. I just said, you know, I believe, well, there shouldn't be a system of, it shouldn't be an atmosphere of fear.
Yeah. You know, people are scared to say, well, what about this? What about that?
Well, there's certain systems where, you know, if you're in the military or some, you don't pipe up, you do your job. I mean, there's systems that are run like that.
No, but it's like, if I go do a stand-up show.
I will get with Mike Lynch and I'll go, what do you want to do?
And I'll go, I was thinking we do this bit, that bit, that bit, this bit.
And then he kind of goes through them, you know, okay.
We're doing shit that pisses me off.
All right, we'll do this.
We'll do this.
We'll do this.
And I'll go, okay, okay, okay.
And then I'll go, eh, let's not do that one.
Let's do the next one.
I'll go, yeah, that's that one.
And then that's it.
It's not.
It's a collaboration.
Right.
I'm not smarter and he is.
He's not smarter than I am.
I'm looking, we're both looking to do the best show we can do.
I'd love to hear what he has to say.
I usually tell him, have a crack at it,
and then get back and read it out to me.
He reads it back to me, and there's 18% or 10% of it.
I go, let's swap that around.
Let's switch it around.
And then that's that.
There doesn't need to be any more to it or less to it than that.
We need to hear what you're talking about.
I do.
We need real specifics here.
I'm agreeing with that.
Or else we can't help.
Go ahead, Natalie.
Actually, Adam,
That's kind of it.
It's just...
No, kind of.
I'll relax, you're.
I'm listening.
Go ahead.
No, no, no.
It is a sense of collaboration because, you know, when you build new systems, you
weren't sure, you weren't sure the output.
I mean, they have to be stress tests, and they have to, we have to see if these processes
actually pan out because it's new.
So sometimes when building a new process, the workload can be very one-sided, and it's
usually not in favor of the people not writing the processes.
What's writing?
What is the business?
So it's a technology company.
Okay.
Well, look.
I need to keep my anonymity here.
Yeah, I get it.
Listen, I saw Steve Jobs last night, so I'm pumped up.
I get how all this stuff work.
Look, I think what you have to do, I don't think it's any different than, you know,
a truck driving school. I don't really think it's, I don't think the technology or the type of
business makes a difference. I think hopefully there's people above you who are dying for some
good ideas who want input, who also want concerns. And there are things you think of and then things
you don't think of. And I don't think anyone has a problem. Any, I don't think there's any ball. I don't
think there's any boss. Remember, the boss profits when your good ideas are implemented. It doesn't
really behoove the boss to yell. That's not my idea. Get out of here. You're saying the same
thing I'm saying. Right. But I'm telling you what, you know, if you don't like how things are
being done, you better be very specific about what the issue is and what your idea is for a solution.
Very specific. So all this vagueness is just, oh, I don't know what she's talking about. I think she's
trying to keep her anonymity or something.
I understand that, but you could also, look, like you said, it's like a truck and
school where you could say, well, pretend we were a widget factory.
Here's the way that this particular department is fine.
You could easily tell us specifics and keep it completely anonymous.
Right.
So the point is I don't know how to tell a person to be a human being.
I don't know how to tell a boss to be a human being.
I'm not sure how everybody works.
but I can tell you
the way I do things
I just put it up to committee
and I go what's everyone think
and they may not change it
that's the other thing
they may just go hey
we've got a reasons
for doing this
and I understand
you're seeing
for your perspective
appreciate it
we're giving it the same
I think it's
I like to think of it
as my sort of logo theory
which I've never spoken to
before
the gay network
network
yeah
doing a home improvement show
on the gay network
yeah they want me to get in the shape
I got to work while I got to work on my underpants
so right now it's just not what they're looking for
as far as their demo goes you get there that's what I'm saying
that's why it's a few months off point is this
my logo theory which is every single time
something comes in around here with a hat or a t-shirt or wine label
or something something something I just take it out
and I spread it out in front of everyone who's sitting back there
and I go what do you like and then ultimately I pick
but I want to know what everyone thinks first
and they don't have to agree with me.
As a matter of fact, I don't tell them the one I like.
I just tell them to tell me the one you like.
And then sometimes you agree, sometimes you disagree,
and now you get everyone's honest opinion.
And I always tell people, don't point at this one and go,
there's the one I like, and here's why.
Let everyone individually decide on which one they like without any clutter,
and then we'll come up with a decision.
Yeah.
It's a better way to go through life.
But as far as Natalie goes,
Natalie sounds very vague and I'm having difficulty getting to the bottom of her, which makes me worry a little bit, yes?
Does she get one more shot?
Sure.
Okay.
Natalie.
I'm back.
Can you be less vague?
You know, Adam, I think I'm just wanting to know what do employers prefer?
That's all.
Employers, I think employers prefer competent people.
there are people and there's the naysayers.
There's the people where you start going, look, I got an idea for them.
They start shaking their head and you're like,
hey, I haven't even let me finish what I was going to say.
They don't like those people.
But do they like people that can be a little bit of a devil's advocate?
A little bit of a, well, okay, I heard as you said, and there's some upside.
But you should be aware, if we do this, that could happen as well
or could possibly make people feel this way about our company.
or whatever, whatever it is.
That's, that's fine too.
I think employers, you know employers you're looking for?
Profit.
Oh, yeah.
You know what else they're looking for?
What?
Ernestness.
They want, here's what I want.
Here's what I'm saying.
There's also, there's one of the little agreeing.
I was talking to a.
Let me finish.
Okay, go ahead.
Let me finish.
Yeah.
You can sit around and you can disagree with me all fucking day, all, all day, every day.
as long as I think whatever it is you're doing,
you're doing it because you have the best interest
of the company and the network or whatever in your mind.
If I feel like you're just disagreeing to disagree,
and I've run into many of these people in my life,
they're just starting to push back
because they feel you, you know, coming up with an idea.
You start, you know, you go,
hey, I got an idea,
and they already start kind of shaking their head a little bit.
Like, here's what, and you go,
well, here's what we're going to do.
And they go, you hear them going like,
yeah, but, and you go,
I know you're, I know,
dying to jump in and explain why this isn't going to work, let me finish telling you my idea,
and then you can tell me why it's going to work. Not going to work. So it's the earnestness.
It's not the consistency. But sometimes if people don't function well in groups and teams and whatnot,
their earnestness, they think they're earnest, but the earnestness really is about just surous.
It's really surrousness, not earnestness. And I was talking to a Broadway producer once. He goes,
Yeah, I auditionals.
Sometimes we see some great talents, but really what we do is we sit there and go,
eh, we really want to spend six months with this person.
Yeah.
Bottom line.
Yeah.
So the employers like just to get on with their life, too.
That'd be nice.
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All right. Miranda, real quick here.
No, sorry, Sophia.
Sophia.
Sophia.
Sophia.
San Jose, 27.
What's going on?
Hey, guys.
First off, I love you guys, and I don't know where I'd be without you, so thank you for all the years of advice.
Thank you.
I'm calling because since about 1994, and I must have been about five or six at the time,
My mom has had several different aneurysms in her brain or in her head.
What do you mean?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What do you mean several different aneurysms?
What does that mean?
That's all I know from my dad and my older brother.
I mean, she recently just had an aneurysm about three months ago back in June.
No, no, no.
You don't have an aneurysm that bleeds or you have strokes or you have
bleeds, but you don't have recurrent aneurysms.
That doesn't happen.
Okay, well, most recently she had both.
She had a bleed and she had a stroke, and this was back in late June.
Okay, and the bleed was somebody told you that was due to an aneurysm?
Yes, that's what the doctor said here in Stanford.
And so they went ahead and...
Hold on.
Where is the aneurysm?
Where is the aneurism?
The aneurism was in the back of her head.
Okay.
and do they put a coil in the aneurysm?
They did.
Okay.
Onerisms are a little like, you know, a tire can have a bleb.
That's what an aneurysm is.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right.
A bulge.
Right.
And these days, those can be repaired with a wire.
You just send a wire up and you put a coil in and they clot them.
They close them.
So they can be very effectively dealt with.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
And that's what happened with this last one.
Hold on.
So hold on.
So hold on.
So the bleed is called a subarachnoid bleed, and then after a bleed, you're at high risk for a stroke from vasospasm, the artery spasm down after a bleed.
So it's a bleed, then a stroke, and then all that sounds like aneurysm.
That all fits.
Okay.
Okay.
So that's what she had just in June that just passed.
Right.
And prior to that, according to my family letting me know, again, I was quite young at the time, so I didn't know what was going on,
she's had these same episodes in the past, so much so that she's had a total of five other surgeries in her head.
And were the same aneurysm?
It's a different one, according to my dad's narration of it.
Okay.
You can have more than one aneurysm, and that's possible.
I wonder why they missed them or have a correct.
erected them thus far, but okay, this is all kind of making sense.
Pretty unusual, but go ahead.
Well, the good news is they're near Stanford, right?
Yeah, yeah.
They're a pretty good place for that.
And they coiled this one.
It's good.
Yeah, but the question is.
So now knowing that, my question is, what is that correlation between all of these
aneurysms and issues that she has had with her many, many, many years of drug abuse?
Are they linked to that directly?
What's her drug?
Drug of use.
Honestly, it's everything, but I think mostly it was crystal.
Yeah.
Hard to say.
I don't know of any association.
It's more of a genetic thing than anything else.
But I wouldn't be inclined to blame it on the crystal meth.
My other question, though, to you is, does she have any kidney problems?
Because that sometimes goes along with these recurrent aneurysms?
Not, no, not really.
I couldn't imagine.
I'm going to take everything back about my mom.
I'm going to give her a big hug.
I couldn't imagine a mom that was on crystal meth.
That seems like the worst plan ever, right?
To be fair.
It was rough to say the least.
Yeah.
But if somebody could have stirred just a little crystal meth into my mom's post them every morning,
I think that's just a right amount, you know what I mean?
Maybe would have done it.
Because she was, like, sucking on an ether rag her whole life.
It's funny.
A little crystal meth.
That's all I'm saying.
All right.
Well, anyway, does she, did she have,
any brown spots on her skin?
I'm trying to determine whether you should be worried about the risk for aneurysms.
You might tell your own doctor about that, so that can be assessed.
But I wouldn't worry so much about the meth.
I haven't telling you the funny story about Stanford and Cal, was I?
Is it telling you that story?
Not dropping the ball?
I don't think so.
On the goal line?
No.
I wasn't.
I was having a laugh with Maxa Pada, and part of my weird clarity of life thing, which is we're out of town a few weeks ago.
I was doing a car race.
And we're watching Cal like put a whoopin on Texas or something, one of the schools.
And I was trying to explain to him back in the day, Cal would get run over and Stanford would get run over back when I had friends.
A couple of Jewish friends who went off to Cal and Stanford.
And then, you know, USC would come to town and just beat them by 52 points.
And so would UCLA.
Like they just get beat up by everybody.
There was no such thing as cow beating Texas back in the day.
And then I said...
It's a pack eight days.
I said what they did is they started getting some guys like, oh, you know, beast mode and guys like that.
Arizona found Hawaii.
Yeah.
And Samoa.
Yeah, Marshaun Lynch, right?
Like you see Marshaun Lynch, he didn't look like the typical Cal student back in the day, you know.
I basically just described it is they got some players who might drop the ball before they crossed the goal line into the end zone.
And once they were able to recruit some of those Deshaun Johnson's and stuff like Jackson, sorry, guys like that,
once they're able to get a few more of those guys, Drew.
Don't bother looking the screen yet.
Don't look.
I said over here.
I said, now that they're able to get those guys,
obviously they loosened up whatever standards they had,
and they were able to get Marshawn Lynch enrolled,
and then carrying the rock,
they got a few more skilled guys who would drop the ball,
and then they started winning.
And that's all I described.
and then we watched like, you know, escape from Londontown or something, and then we went to bed.
And then the next morning, I woke up and London has fallen.
Anyway, Chris McSread said, did you see how that Cal Texas game ended?
And I said, no, I went to bed.
And he said, here's how it ended.
They handed the ball off to a fella with about a minute or so left.
Here's touchdown.
And he dropped the ball before he crossed the goal line.
And lost the game.
No, they won because the refs didn't know what to do with it.
They said the ball was on the ground too long or whatever it was.
But it was exactly as I described it to Max a Pada the night before.
You got to tell me, they put the ball back at the one-yard line and let them crush it in or what happened?
I think the problem is, I don't think they call it a touch.
What'd they do?
Yeah, it was Cal ball.
They just...
But that was a mistake.
It should have been Texas ball, right?
Yeah, there's an argument between that.
Texas guy does pick up the ball, which is technically still alive.
So, yes, it should be Texas ball at a touchback.
And Texas could have got back into that game because they were only behind by a few points before that.
If that hadn't have counted, it would have been a less than a touchdown margin.
And Texas could have went back.
But it's funny that I actually just scribed.
that behavior.
I didn't say black guys or fast guys
or inner city or hood or anything.
I just said, they got guys who like to
drop the ball around the goal line and now they're winning.
And then I went to bed
and then that's how the game ended. Crazy.
Did they push the ball through?
Gary? Yeah. Yeah. And they won.
Yeah. And they shouldn't have.
Lesson learned.
No, not lesson learned.
You don't want to listen to Adam. Listen to Adam.
Now, the weird thing is, is I've never
described that that way ever.
It's the great magnet. I always had it quite a relationship with you. I've just found myself
sitting there. It's a personal relationship with the great magnet that you've had. I did. I just
found myself sitting there trying to think of an interesting way of depicting this to young Chris,
who never knew that Cal and Stanford didn't used to win. All right. Quick break. Who are we going
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She doesn't like, oh, my gosh. All right. We'll get into it. Right after this.
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All right, back, and we're going to talk to Michael over here.
Michael, El Paso, Texas.
Hey, Adam. Drew, how's it going on?
Speaking of Texas.
It's going on.
Yeah, Drew, thanks for the inside, man.
Love listening to you.
Adam.
Your advice on grit has propelled my career forward over the past years.
Thanks for that.
Nice.
Good.
I'm glad to have made a difference.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So let me get into the question.
So I work for a company that does emergency management.
So I get deployed out to different parts of the country whenever a disaster happens.
So I met this girl at work about a month and a half ago.
And we just really hit it off.
You know, she's a deep thinker.
She has common sense.
She's beautiful.
And we work a lot, though.
So I really didn't have that much time to develop a relationship with her until about maybe three weeks ago.
And then our project that were working ended.
And we both, well, she used to live in San Antonio, which is where I'm from.
So we spent about a week in San Antonio together.
And, you know, I was really up front about my feeling.
I said, let me take you on a date.
She was like, okay.
On the date, she's like, I have to tell you, I'm in a relationship.
I don't like the guy.
And she's divorced.
She has two kids.
And she's moving back to Puerto Rico.
So on the day, she's like, I'm moving back to Puerto Rico at the end of this week.
I said, I want to spend every minute with you, you know, the next week we did.
And it was great.
Hold on.
Slow down.
Is this guy in Puerto Rico with her?
He's not.
He's not.
He's in Texas.
Why is she moving back to Puerto Rico?
So she got divorced, and she felt she didn't have a support system there.
She's got two kids.
But she has a support system in Puerto Rico.
Yeah, her family is there
Mm.
Down in the west, Texas, town of El Paso.
I fell in love with
a Puerto Rican
bitch.
So, what do you want to do?
Nick, Marty Robbins fan
at all? I knew that, I knew that, jam.
Oh, you don't? No, maybe Kanye
lifted that or something.
Well, that's where I'm at, guys.
Yeah.
Have you asked her to stay?
well she's already down there and she doesn't want to be down there but see that's the thing
we're we're I'm you know I've gotten to know her over the past month and I still like to get to
know her but it's kind of a big I mean that's the last discussion we had was you know she's like
I don't want to burden you I have two kids and I really like that I want to keep getting
if she comes if she comes back up from Puerto Rico that's a heavy commitment for you in addition
I yeah I understand that and so I'm trying to figure out you know we're
We're still getting to know each other, and we're okay with that.
And she also read up, she's like, I don't want to feel like a cheater because I'm dating this guy.
And she says, it's likely going to fizzle out, and I'd like to keep talking to you, which is, you know, that's all fine.
But I guess I'm just...
Hold on a little.
She's dizzling...
Wait, she's dating this guy, or she's divorced?
Or what's the other guy?
So she's divorced, and this is the guy after the divorce.
She's seeing a guy right now.
Yeah, but she's cheating on him with you, whether emotionally or otherwise, this is cheating.
is a bullpen. She's clearly cheating.
And you know the old saying, if you want to know how your relationship is going to end.
That's right.
Right, right, right.
Well, wait a minute. How old is she?
So I'm 30. She's 37.
Okay. Michael, I'm not feeling this one.
I get it.
Well, I look. I get it.
She's beautiful. She has a great personality.
I think there's a lot of positives here.
but she's 37, she's got two kids, she's divorced, she's dating someone, she's living in Puerto Rico,
she's like seeing you out.
Dating a guy from Puerto Rico and keeping, this is all very sort of manipulative, crazy, sort of wild stuff.
This is you entering a crazy sort of fun house that's going to turn into a haunted house.
Yeah, yeah.
Hold on.
Well done.
Yeah.
And you sound, I'll take that sniff.
You're 30, you've got your head screwed on.
on, you're going places with your career.
I just feel like, how about a nice 27-year-old who graduated college a couple years back
is focused on her career a little, no kids, no boyfriends?
Yeah.
You know, it's dating somebody who has a boyfriend, that's trouble.
And by the way, dating a guy from Puerto Rico and still hasn't broken up with him,
but keeping you on the line, it's like, wow.
Michael, I think this is one that she's probably pretty attractive and kind of gets away with a lot.
Yes.
I'd say so.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Well, let's, and at some point, it's going to get the kids.
The kids are going to get attached.
It's going to get a little messy.
It's going to be tough to untangle.
I'm just feeling like she's in Puerto Rico.
She's got a guy.
She's got a couple of kids.
Fine.
You know, you had some fun.
You learn something. Let's move it on.
I got you, Adam. Thanks, guys. I mean, that's why I called in.
All right. You bet.
All right. Let's do one more.
Jamie.
Hi.
26, Los Angeles. What's going on?
Hey, thanks for taking my call. I had a question for Drew, but before I asked that, I wanted
to tell Adam something. I was speaking with one of my friends today who's a makeup artist,
and she said she's done your makeup many, many times.
And forgive me if I misquote you, but did you say before that you don't use shampoo?
That's true.
Yeah, and she was very, very surprised because she commented on how not dirty your hair always appeared,
how clean that your hair and everything when she was doing your makeup was.
So she was very surprised to hear that you didn't use shampoo.
You don't need shampoo.
That's why I don't use shampoo.
It's an unnecessary product.
There's like invented by Procter and Gamble,
and then they make shampoo, and then they make conditioner,
and then they make the shampoo and conditioner,
and they get everybody all beat up on it.
And then John Stossel does some sort of report,
and he tells you that the suave stuff for 219 is better than the pantine
for $13.49.
And my wife screams, I can tell the difference.
And I go, there's chemical analysis that says there's,
There is no difference, and they go, I know what the difference is.
I'm hoping that's not a smoke alarm.
Jamie said a smoke alarm?
Oh, my God.
I was hoping that you guys would not notice that.
No, Jamie, no way.
Come on.
No, it is.
To be fair, I'm not at my house.
I'm at my boyfriend's mom's house right now.
The smoke alarm is against the receiver of your phone.
I know.
It's really loud.
I was really hoping you guys wouldn't notice it.
Why are you not in a room that doesn't have?
have a smoke. Can you go to another room? No, no, no, no. Way too close. Yeah. How high are your
ceilings? Four feet? I don't know. They're not that high. No. Go into another room and
close the door. All right. Hang on. I'm timing this, by the way, Drew. It should go off in about
five seconds. Okay. I'm in another room now. All right. All right. So my question for Drew was...
Who is this makeup person? Now, I'm curious.
It's.
Jamie?
No, Jamie's this person.
Oh.
No, the friend of mine, she's a, she's a makeup artist at Fox News Channel.
Oh, okay.
Oh, I've known a few of them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A very pretty tall, blonde woman.
Yeah.
That narrows it down.
Make-up artist.
Yeah.
Did she say, I hit on her or anything like that?
No, but she said that you were always.
running late.
I am.
I'm not really running late.
I just give my, you know, they always do the thing where they go, we want you there at this
time and I realize it's not going to take that long and hair and makeup.
So let's just get there when I need to get there.
That's my TV thing.
TV is about corraling you for an hour and a half before you need to be anywhere.
Yeah.
At best.
No, like you're doing a hit on O'Reilly.
He's going to start at 3 o'clock our time.
You're going up at 351.
and they want you there at three.
My whole thing is like, I'll get there like 320, and that'll be perfect.
You should use the Garagos technique.
If he's 351, Garagos walks in at 349.
Yeah, yeah.
That's, I should.
I don't have that kind of juice.
But either way, yes, I don't use shampoo and I don't use soap.
We would make fun of him every time.
But he'd make it.
Yep.
So sorry, Jamie.
Go ahead.
Oh, no, it's okay.
I was reading about the Sinclair method for Trayette.
treating opioid and alcohol dependency using the drug naltrexone.
I just want to know what you're thought about that.
Well, there's using naltrexone for alcoholism and even cocaine addiction.
It's unavailable in a shot.
It's a little expensive.
You get a shot once a what?
Once a month.
And there have other been similar.
That's for cocaine and what?
Alcohol primarily, alcohol.
You just get the shot.
And it doesn't, my experience, we used to give it as a pill.
and my experience has been sort of mixed.
I've had some people really respond to it and some people sort of not so much.
Now, is it make you sick or you don't get the craving?
You don't get the reward the thinking is.
They really don't know the full biology because it seems to do more than just blocking the reward.
But this business of this rapid detox that has been totally eviscerated as an effect.
Remember that thing a few years ago where they put you in a coma?
Yes, that's what she's talking about.
And just detox you for three days or whatever?
Yes.
Feed you some mature, like I'll give you a keister.
funnel adventure.
One of the big problem with those is I would see them after the fact, and they'd still
be in benzodiazepycinepatopathic, so it would be just terrible.
I'm looking at this and make sure I'm getting this right, because maybe it's a different.
Is there, that sort of falls under your no-free lunches kind of thing, right?
In nature, like, you can't be a junkie for 10 years and then take a nap for 48 hours and
wake up and just be regular again?
No.
Your body's not going to let you do.
do that.
It sounds, though, it's right up there with, well, we freeze the fat cells and then
with fat cells get absorbed in it, like, it sounds so good.
You know what I mean?
Like, God, that sounds good.
Things sounding good in biology have nothing to do with the reality.
Right.
I have it from that.
Yeah.
This, right.
Well, I guess the idea is that it's supposed to block the reward that you get from you
use.
Yes, I understand.
But the reward is not strictly media.
it would be the opioid system.
So it doesn't completely block it.
So, and again, some people
that does send to work more than others.
Are you talking about you, Jamie?
No, I'm just talking about an article that I read.
It's not been particularly useful.
And it certainly hasn't.
Again, you've got to use what you can
for every given patient and not everyone is exactly the same.
And sometimes these opioid blockers do have some utility.
But it's a lot of money to use the long-acting stuff.
And that money can sometimes be better spent elsewhere.
Thanks, Jamie.
Tell your makeup artist friend, I said hi.
I will.
And are you going to go back on O'Reilly again?
I don't know.
It's been a while.
I did it.
I don't know.
Last time I was in New York or last time he was out here or whatever it is, but I don't
do it regularly anymore.
But I don't know.
When I come out the book or something like that, we'll figure it out.
Don't worry.
I'll be back.
All right.
Drusky.
I won't worry.
Me.
Don't worry.
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I would love you and Garagas.
It's such a nice change in you and me.
Yeah.
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