The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #471: My Dad Brought His Trumpet

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

December 5, 2016 - Adam & Drew open the show recounting their experiences over the Thanksgiving Holidays including the musical stylings of one Jim Carolla. This leads into a larger conversation about Adam’s relationship with his father and his now defunct podcast that previously resided on Carolla Digital. They then turn to the phones and speak to a caller looking for advice on how to retire early based on his wife’s hefty income.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hey Ontario, come on down to BetMGM Casino and check out our newest exclusive. The Price is Right Fortune Pick. Don't miss out. Play exciting casino games based on the iconic game show. Only at BetMGM. Access to the Price is right fortune pick is only available at BetMGM Casino. BetMGM and GameSense remind you to play responsibly. 19 plus to wager, Ontario only. Please play responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you,

please contact Connix Ontario at 1866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Time for throwback episode 471 from December of 2016. Well, we talk about Thanksgiving holidays and the musical stylings of Jim Carolla. We talk a bigger conversation, of course, about Adam and his father and the now defunct podcast that was previously on Corolla Digital. Then we go to the phones and speak to a caller for advice on how to retire early because of his wife's hefty income. I bet Adam expresses his jealousy. Enjoy.

Throwback episode from December 2016. Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. No choice. You better get on mandate. Get it on.

Welcome to the show. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend. We do love that about you. Got to get it on. Everybody. Not got to get it on, but got to get it on. It's going on there, Drewski.

I've got to have a steam. How about you? Been busy? Holidays on us, man. I don't know about you. Do you have fun during the... Yeah. Yeah.

I had a good... My sister... I went to my sisters. Yeah. She's turned into a little bit of a foodie. And more importantly, she's befriended a chick or two. And that chick, she had some sort of chick that did the, she got the pork loin and stuffed it and tied it up with the string. And, you know, did this one was done in the smoker and this one was done in the oven.

And, you know, just sort of went berserk on the, on the food, which was nice. Also, it turned out her and her husband were going to LaMalle for the fourth time. Whoa. Yeah. Is your sister's friend? Yeah. Well, come on now. You know, everything's getting very wavy.

I'm like, you know, what, what? My sister likes interesting people and, and she's international. She's international. It's a little focus, a little clarity. Oh, boy, these poor people don't know what hit them. Like, I walked into the front door and somehow, they're like, oh, we're going to LaMont. Oh, you're going to LaMont. I just made a movie about Lamont.

It's like, what? And then later on, they're like, well, we're like, well, we're going. One of these days where I want to go to LaMont and go to Goodwood, it's like, I just drove it. They're like, what? By the way, no one else in my family was remotely interested in these little snippets. Why would you even think they would? That's your mistake. My family treats this stuff like I said, I found a beanie baby the other day.

That's how, that's what it all. I think that's what it sounds like. I made a movie about LaMont and I drove at Goodwood. That doesn't sound like anything to them. But I was able to find this couple, and it was fun. Oh, that's good. Well, it's still a little unclear what they were doing with your sister. But, all right.

They're international people. They're international. They cook. My sister travels a lot. Yeah. A lot of good food and good times. My dad brought his trumpet, which is never. Oh, boy.

Well, the, I mean, you tell me, Drew. All right. You tell me. Yeah. My dad, the reason I don't like it when my dad brings his trumpet is because I, I feel it's sort of a metaphor and or sort of indicative of him as a person. It's sort of intruded upon you and it had always been. No.

No. No one's ever intruded upon me. Once I got caught beating off, but that was my friend. But he never, no, no, no, no, no. That's you. You were intruded upon. No one was ever intruded upon me. That was kind of my argument.

I mean, that's my complaint with my family. You wish they had. A little. intrusiveness would have been nice. Intrusiveness, you know, at a certain point, it does, whatever you want to say about it, it shows some interest, even if it's a negative interest or, or a traumatizing interest. Yeah, interest that makes you want to retreat or going to a shell. Diminishes you in some way.

Yeah, but it's a calorie burner. All right. So I don't, so, you know, no, no, my dad, that's a weird guess by you. Wait, no, because I'm trying to understand. Intrusive. No, no, but it's kind of intrusive to say, hey, everybody, I'm playing the trumpet. The reason the horn is kind of indicative with my dad is my dad, you know, like there's, I have this thing and I don't know why. It's a kind of a wiring, but it's a sort of a thing.

It's sort of like Gary, not half tart over here, but full tart over there, you know. Gary does a lot of like, and I like Gary, but Gary does a lot of, oh, you know, Gary's. out of it or, you know, Gary went in your house, did some work and made a mess and he left or, you know, the other day, left my sliding door open to my bedroom, and left it unlocked, you know, he just worked, opened it, shut it. I was unlocked when I was, before I went to bed, it's like, oh, my door's open, you know, and it's, you know, Gary's out of it. Gary's, you know, Gary's, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I go, I get it. But Gary drives a car and it's always covered, pulls a cover over it. And Gary knocks off at three. And when I say three,

I mean 257. And if you get there at three and 21 seconds, he's gone 100% of the time. Yeah. So is Gary that out of it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And my theory is sort of... Maybe he has just a limited capacity for focus. Well, the capacity for focus is kind of... Well, this is what I'm saying. Gary, I remember once, I know you guys have heard this before, not you, Gary, but I said to him once, I said, there was a part, there was a part where I was trying to catch him, like I was trying to get home before three to talk to him about something, and it was like 254, and he was driving down the hill when I was passing him.

And I said, you know, Gary, I've seen you leave at 258, 257, 259, and 256, but I've never seen you leave at 302 and he looked at me and he went I don't even know what time it is and I went well if you don't know what time it is how come you never pull that off yeah he's like I don't even have a watch and I'm like well then if you didn't have a watch and you'd leave sometimes at 309 and sometimes at 251 right but not every single time before three so it was this thing again it's my theory of like hey the cash it's not me short changing you the cash register's broken so what do he say to that but if he really it's broken yeah yeah I get a little extra change right It's just flipping a coin.

Right. I'm not going to argue with him. But my point is this. My dad is Mr. Out of it, but he doesn't forget the trumpet. I see what I'm saying? I see. And he doesn't, it's also another thing, which is, oh, I got a funny picture. I never miss an opportunity.

Gary, half-dard Gary never stops this picture. He loves this picture. It's my favorite. Gary used to work sort of in the dark. He'd be working on car stuff like in the dark. Go, Gary, get a light, hook it up, plug it in, and have some light. You've got to see where you're working here. Set up a light.

I got lights all over the place. We're looking at a picture of him working on a race car with a light, a freestand, basically tripod, high-powered light, something you use for production. They have barn doors on them. Yeah. There's four doors. Yeah. They're all closed. Yeah.

But the light is turned on. So it's a little slit. It should be this gigantic sort of almost like a tanning. Oh, the doors, yeah, the doors are reflective. Yeah. I'm definitely... They're to focus the beam. I definitely got beat on a technicality on this one when I said, you've got to set up the light.

There's a little tiny beam, which should be this giant, like, tanning light. I wouldn't call the beam, but I've always said, like, I can never anticipate the part where I say and open the barn doors because they were open last time I left. But anyway, that's Gary's favorite picture. So, the trumpet. Yeah. The reason I'm a little bit of a douche about it is because. We're going to talk about Carleases, right?

Is that where we're going? No. No, okay, go ahead. The reason I'm a douche about it is I feel like you have to earn your audience. You know, like, as a comedian or whatever it is you do this week, you have to earn your audience. Okay. And my dad always wanted an audience. Yeah.

Whether it was comedy or playing the trumpet. I think he pictured himself, you know, at the same. the baked potato, it was sold out. There were 110 people in there, smoky, and he was just going to town with Miles Davis. But he didn't want to put in the work that it took to earn that audience. That means travel and roads and, you know, sacrifice and practice, practice, practice, and whatever it is. But what my dad does is when he shows up to an event where he knows there's going to be 18 or 20 people, he gets his audience. But see, I consider that.

I experienced that as sort of intrusive, holding somebody hostage, right? I don't experience it as intrusive, although it is. Yeah, he's intruding upon his audience. I think about, and it's such a bizarre thing, too, because I think about my son who's like a real, or even Maxa, right, these are really skilled musicians. You have to beg them to play, you know, when you're a captive audience. They really don't, they're like, they're the real deal. They don't want to, like, you know what I mean?

Well, no, but yes, but Maxa Pada is on the road, on tours, we speak. Oh, when his earned audience shows up and he wants to perform for them. Well, no, but I'm making your point while simultaneously defecating on it, which is, Thank you for that. My dad doesn't have an earned audience, so he has to use this group who's there to eat and have a conversation. But he has to stop it by sort of fumbling his way through the flugelhorn for 12. 20 minutes, you know what I mean, because that's his, but what I'm saying, what I'm saying is, I know he has an ego and I know he knows, I know, it's not, what I'm saying is,

it's not this nutty professor bumbling, stumbling through life. Yeah. When it comes time to sort of, don't forget to bring the trumpet and the oil for the valves and the case and the, the CDs, you can play along to the standard jazz, whatever, whatever, He doesn't drop the ball on that. Right. When it comes to... This has been always your point is that when people have, when they can prioritize things

motivationally, magically, they get it. Is it what you yell at your wife about all the time? Yes. And they want to, he wants to play, but he's not earned it. It's not good enough. I have a couple things to see about that. One is, why not flip it around and say to yourself, you know, it's all

my old shit. He's now been through all that neurosurgical stuff and he survived all this and how great that he can still prioritize that way. I don't care that much. So play a fluegelhorn. I don't care. But why not flip it and be positive about it?

It would help your soul, I think. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I get it. Yeah. I don't, I know I sound negative. It didn't bother me. I didn't go out in the driveway and cry or anything. Yeah, but I'm saying even taking it as an empty set is a missed opportunity.

No, because he's been doing this for 20 years as part of the problem. I get it. I get that it's not okay. Right. I get it. It does not make me feel good even to hear the story. It's not way out of line. But I'm saying you could take that and go, Jesus, I well, I had to go to the High Intent and see him on his deathbed with boreholes. God damn, but he's out playing the horn now.

Maybe we should celebrate this a little bit. Oh, Gary's telling me he played every day on his podcast. I was wondering, I bet you I've listened to a lot more of your dad performing. than pretty much anyone else. Well, the thing that's just fair to be the language. Well, his podcast itself was 30 minutes of talking, and I'd edit down the music to about four minutes, but he was a perfectionist, so we were averaging about 45 to 60 minutes of music for each episode.

On top of the talking? That's what he would play for me, and then I, in deference to the audience, never told him and edited it down to four or five minutes. From 40 minutes? Yeah. He never heard it. He doesn't want to listen to it, and I didn't think anyone would. What a lot of pain in the ass for you.

Talk about getting forced it on. Hey, man. You're the one being held hostage. You're the one. What about me? What about when I said to him, dad, you've been doing this for, what about me? Excuse me. But what about me when you told me to fire him?

And I said, Adam, that's your dad. I was still very new here. And I said, Adam, that's your dad. Are you sure you don't want to talk to him? He said, now you can do it. Yeah. That was one of the more awkward interactions of my entire life telling an 87-year-old man that his son had pulled a plug on him. What do you say?

There's a very infamous. He and Ray got into a huge fight about. Right then? Yeah. Ray was trying to amp him up and tell him that he should be fighting back against his dad. Oh, against his son. Or against his son, rather than what do you say? He got very Zen and, you know, therapists like, and just said, listen, this is Adam's joint.

And this is the decision that he's made. And I may not be happy about it, but we're moving on. Like, that's, that was his call. And there you go. Fucking, fucking Ray has to go in there and stir the pot. That's Ray's move. Well, oh, my God. Enjoy race.

A wreck of a truck next time you pass it by. No, here's what happened. here's what happened I was informed that my dad who'd been doing a podcast for you know two or three years

was essentially losing money okay and I said to him after a number of years of losing my money my money I'm running a business and I don't mind a certain amount of charity

but look Gary's got to edit your stuff we need an engineer you're hearing the studio, whatever it is. It costs money. Nothing's free. You know, it's this sort of arguments you get into people with all the time, you know, like, I think Lynette started a business with Jimmy's old wife, and she's like, we broke even. I was like, you don't break even. You spend two years of your life and it's gone, you know? It's like this weird, people have a sort of math angle on stuff. Like, it's not costing you any money. It's like, you come here. The building costs me six grand a month, and then the power and then the board, and then the equipment.

and then the engineer. And no, it is, it's very naive, conveniently naive to go, it's free. Yeah, convenient. Yeah, it's almost an insane thought. But anyway, I said this. I said, listen, it's been two or three years. We're not making any money. You're not making me.

You're losing me money. And by the way, I'm a fledgling business. I can't, you know, I'm starting to make a little money on my podcast, but I'm bleeding over here for your stuff. And I'm telling us that anybody who's doing a podcast, including my wife, including myself on other podcasts, we need to kind of get our shit together and stop treating it like a hobby because this is a hobby that's everyone else's hobby on my dime. And I have one podcast, which is mine, which is making money, but that's my only business.

So let's, I had the same conversation with my wife, let's figure out a way to turn this thing around. What do you want me to do? What do you want to do? What can we do? You know, let's put our minds together here. And I said, my dad said, look, he has a loyal fan base who'd really, you know, really be disappointed if the show went away. And I said, okay, I think we can build on this.

Why don't we tell people, why don't we set up a PayPal account or something? Not even charge, but tell everyone, hey, this show costs X amount of bucks to do. We do it every day. We bring it every week. We bring it to you for free. If you're a big fan, about five bucks a month, you know, whatever it is. Or give when you can and let's keep it going. And I want to keep going.

You want to keep me going? It's an important thing we do here. Prove it. Show me you love me. Bring it up. And I said, okay, if we can do that and we can turn it from losing money every month to breaking even or even making a buck, then I got no problem. And I'm not asking it in the first three weeks.

It's been three years of losing money. So let's do that, engage your audience, tell them exactly what we talked about, and then let's see if we can start shifting the direction of the stream a little, get a little money to trickle in. And a couple of weeks went by, and I sort of said, how's it going? Are you asking for money or whatever? And Ray sort of said, nah, he doesn't bring it up. And I said, you know, okay, dad, it's been, I don't know, at this point, maybe a couple months. and I said, it's not turning around, but are you asking for money? And he said, I don't beg.

And I thought, it must be nice to have that much pride. But you are bragging me to come to my warehouse and stay on and do a podcast, right? Like, do you have dignity or do you not, are you brimming? This is a thing that's very confusing to me. Like, I got a lot of pride, but I don't. It's, again, it's pride attached to hubris. Right. Right, which is really a weird thing in my life.

Well, and by the way, how about the fact that you're losing your son is trying to start a business money? Because you feel like playing the horn into the microphone for half hour a week. You know, you feel me? Yeah. So I just said, look, I think I'm being reasonable, but if you're not going to attempt to get me back to even, then Gary, shit can the old man.

You sure you don't want to talk to yourself, boss? No, you can do it. Nah, you can do it. And that was it. But who's this one on? I've become more and more intolerant these days of the hebristic sort of positions. I don't like that anymore. I'm sort of weirdly, when people are going to tell you what to do, but I don't know.

It's a weird. Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you what drives me nuts. And I live with a group of these people. You know, I've done stuff in the past for like my sister or other people where I go, like, look, I had to pay this guy like $7,500. bucks and my sister'd go like uh i'm pretty pretty sure i paid him you know and i go no you didn't i paid him and he'll go i don't know i go once you call him and ask him and then it just kind of goes away yeah it was her down payment for her house and silver like i said you know i paid for that down payment you never paid me back i thought i did no you did not okay well what do you want to eat for dinner

and it's like here's the here's the here's the response from responsible dad, which is this. Dad, this show's losing me money on a monthly basis. Really? Sorry. How much? I don't know. Well, can we figure it out and put a number to it?

Yeah, we'll quantify this. Maybe it's $286 a month. So I can work my way out of it, yeah. Here's a check for $286. I just bought myself a month. Now, let me get on the air. And by the way, I'm all here. You got ways that we could advertise or start a PayPal account

or whatever it is, make that back. But until then, here's 286, and if I make $100 next month, then here's $186. Yeah. We'll see if we'll get that down to zero. Not asking. It's not like my dad ever asked how much are you losing, not interested, because that involves the truth and sort of him. You know what I mean?

Yeah. You think about how many people don't even, your son goes, hey, I got a business here, and your part's losing me money, and you don't go, how much? Yeah, that's very interesting. All right. Well, I'm going to go one more layer. Fascinating. Rividing.

One more layer with this motivation thing, how you say people, you know, when it counts for them, when they are motivated. Yeah. All right. Wait, then we'll take a break. Well, life gets busy, and meal prep is one of the first things that just goes out the window. You end up eating stale granola bars and whatever children didn't finish that morning. and you might think instead about tempo. Tempo delivers fresh, chef-crafted,

dietitian-approved meals right to your door. Real food, real fast, ready in just two minutes. So you're eating healthy meals. None of the sad lunch or mystery drive-through stuff. No processed fruit. They're salmon with roasted veggies, perfect portions, great flavor. They drop 20 new recipes every week so you never get bored.

And there is something for everyone. You can choose protein-packed, calorie-conscious, carb-conscious, even fiber-rich meals. It is Tempo, right, Daphne? For a limited time, Tempo is offering our listeners 60% off your first box. Go to TempoMeals.com.com slash ADS for 60% off your first box. TempoMeals.com slash ADS. Rules and restrictions may apply. All right. Now, you want to talk to Bill or do you want to motivate?

Let's do Bill. Okay. That's so interesting. Bill, 47, Montreal. Yeah, ma'am. Drew, how are you? I know. Good. So I was going to save this one for what can't Adam complain about. Yeah, so my wife has had a very successful career, and she now makes quadruple what I make.

Nice. Yeah. I've had the same job for 20 years. Yeah. My job is very stressful. It makes me travel quite a bit. I would like to not do it. I mean, I think that if I was, if our roles were reversed, I could be a just, we don't

have any kids, so there's no stay at home, dad, but it would be easy for me to just stay home and do whatever. Yeah, whatever. Well, here's the thing. Does your wife have any expectations slash limitations or rules involving spending of money? Not a lot. In other words, I would have to comply with her.

My salary away. No, I'm saying I have this theory. I have multiple theories in terms of sort of reversing the whatever, which is I feel like if Lynette was the one who made all of the money, there would be a couple little expectations, perhaps. No going rogue and buying a Paul Newman car for $5 million? Yeah. No, for instance.

No, me saying, hey, John Hyatt's in Chicago. I'll be back in three days. Oh, I see. be met with a little, hey, there's some work around here to be done. Yeah, yeah. Do you get you? But then if you did the same rules. Oh, yeah.

But if you did your work, well, there's a. What work, aren't we down with? I'm just saying, wait, listen to me, if you had a, hang a second, if you had a track record where everything was going well. Like, let's say all of a sudden it reversed. I don't think you'd hear about it. You know what I'm saying? And Bill is a temperate. Listen, I will put it, I'll say the same.

with divorce. Everyone hears about the story about, ah, a rich guy gets divorced, got to pay $61,000 a month and now. And if you're going to get married to you flip the script on that. It's the woman paying the guy.

Everyone goes, what the hell? Doesn't the guy got any dignity? Where's his backbone? Like, go get a job, man. And take care of yourself. I don't understand how that applies to this. See, it is, it's the exact same thing. Reverse.

When you reverse it, there's a new set of rules and sort of stigmas and things. Okay, so you're saying that even though, You've been the breadwinner and doing a great job at it. And suddenly you kick back for while she takes over, she would have the same restrictions on you as if she'd been the breadwinner from early on. Hey, Gary, Drew has the ability to almost get confused over everything. I'm not shitting.

No, not intentionally, but I'm just saying it's a skill. Okay. Like any other. I am saying. I hear what you said. I heard what you said. I get it. I get it.

I have a full-time nanny. I get it. If I were not employed and I had a full-time nanny, I think people, for right or for wrong. People would, yes. People. Okay. People would say. Okay.

It might come up. Okay. It might come up. So, Bill. I have a question. Can you mind telling us what the jobs were? I have just kind of a horrible middle manager job that involves a lot of travel. So middle manager managing a.

She doesn't like. it. Who cares? What is your wife? What does she do? She works in finance. She's and has a lawyer. So, hey, but Bill, here's it. Here would be my caveat. I would be fine with her and you and this whole part, but I feel like you need something to embark upon. I fear that if he doesn't do... I fear too. Yeah, if he doesn't do that, she will lose sort of respect for you. Now, this is nothing rational.

I just think that kind of thing will happen. You know what I'm saying? No, it is rational. of is like she have to have an answer when her friends say hold on a second it's not just the rational if she comes home after a long day at the office and he's in his bathrobe he can she can lose respect yeah yeah but i'm saying that men don't feel the same way about their wives if necessarily we're no we're more lenient because we've had a long rich history of this but yes there's an element of that everyone's going to lose respect for everyone if everyone's in their bathrobe when you come home. Bill?

Yeah. What is it that you'd like to do? I will abide by this plan if you have a thing where you're going to make your own turquoise belt buckles. It's got to be specific. That's not an example. I'm pretty heavy in the photography. I've got a bunch of hobbies.

All right. Hold on. Hold on. Photographer. But I need, here's what I need if I'm her. Building something, right? Quiet. Creating something.

Zero. No. No. I need some modality towards some income. You can take your dream of photography or being a photographer and now start applying it to some. Same thing I'm saying. All right. Okay, building something.

Yeah. Contributing. Contributing. I need you to, even if it's pennies on her dollar, or even if it's zero on her dollar, I need you to start thinking about your own photography business. Gotcha. See what I'm saying? You should like that.

He should be rewarded by that, too. I would think. Or is it a Canadian? No, he hates his job. I understand, but building your own business. Is that impossible? Is that hard in Canada? He's Montreal.

Not particularly. Okay. But I think that she really needs an answer when people ask her what her husband does for a living. That would help. I get it. Photographer will work. There you go. Middle management, not as sexy.

I'd sit down and talk to her about it. I would. And my feeling is the person who's making the money does not, cannot really dictate or have feelings about anything that the other person is doing as long as the other person is doing whatever they're doing in earnest. It doesn't matter if you're Ansel Adams. It doesn't even matter if you're never making a nickel. If you're up and out and attempting to make a business out, then that's fine. I agree. Or a creative something.

You're creating. That's my point. You're correct. Well, you said building. So I didn't. And he's Mr. Mom. I mean, he's the dad staying home. I thought you meant he was putting a deck on or something.

No, no, no. So speaking of motivation, let me first talk about holidays and how this should motivate you to get the hell out of the post office. Go to stamps.com, first of all. Be packed. People mail and give. Everyone knows exactly what I'm talking about. Just don't even think about it. Be like the Corral Network.

They're shipping the 24-hour War using Stamps.com as they do everything else or have done with everything else they've shipped out. My little elves are back there packing those envelopes. Yeah, back the envelopes weighing out precisely the postage necessary. Nick's looking at you're like, yeah, here's an elf for you. I got an elf for you. And again, the Stamps.com, you can buy a print official U.S. postage at your own computer with your own printer. It's easy, it's convenient. Mailman just picks it up, off it goes.

And, of course, using our code ADS, you get a four-week trial, $110 bonus, including postage, and a digital scale. So go to Stamps.com before you do anything else. Click on the microphone at the top of the homepage. It's up there on the right-hand corner. Type in ADS, and you will get access to this four-week trial, $110 bonus, including postage and the digital scale. So you can weigh out the precise amount of postage for any given letter or package, hand it off to the postman. Off you go. Stamps.com.

promo code ADS. So, motivation. You're very focused on people's ability to prioritize when it matters to them. Yes. All I'm saying is I don't like the double standard. I don't like this is my shit. I take care of it. I mean, literally people who literally who are very anal about their tools.

They're tools. You can't borrow them. They're locked up to day. Meanwhile, they forget to lock the door to your warehouse when they lay. I don't like that. What if you needed Phil to do something he didn't want to do? Philly cheesecake? Yeah.

Or Phil Rosenthal? No, Philly cheesecake. Phil Rosenthalton think you probably pull that off, actually. Philly cheesecake. What if it was, if Philly wants food off the table, highly motivated. Mm-hmm. Highly motivated. That's true.

You can't break him from that laser beam focus. Ah, you could, but yeah. It'd be hard. I don't. You can never get him to not want it. You can give him to stop the behavior. Maybe. Well, in theory, people can train their dogs.

Yeah, right. But my point being is you don't really expect that you're going to be able to get him to go fetch when you want him to fetch, go outside with him to fetch, if he's got other things that are a priority for him. You expect, not to appreciate it, but I think you expect from whatever species you're dealing with a certain amount of what their species is capable of. Well, I rest my case. I would argue that I do see people walking their dogs and their dogs are not pulling a thousand different directions and not jumping on other dogs. Yeah, they're trained. I mean, that's the dog's potential. Yeah, but if a dog, if it's a kind of breed that sees another cat or something or something that's, you know, bred to.

What do you do with your kids? It takes, I help, I enlist other people for help, schools and things like that. takes time and even still I know that their motivation is going to supersede anything that I should necessarily want as a supervening motivation.

Right. But what's your motivational point here? What I'm just saying maybe adjust your expectations because you don't do this to fill. Oh. Just saying. By the way,

this is right up there with everyone on the left going voter suppression which is black folk aren't capable of getting a fucking driver's license? Like, do you hear what you sound like when you go a lot of these people of color

aren't able to obtain? Like, you don't understand that's the most racist thought in the world you thinking that in 2016 for some unknown reason, I'm sure Gavin Newsom believes is that black people aren't capable of getting a license.

You see how much more progressive. My thought is that anyone's capable of getting a license and should probably get a form of ID. otherwise you can't function in the city. You thinking that people are up there with labs? You're equating people to Labradors? That's a very...

At least it's not racist. Well, Phil's a Black Lab. It's specious. No. Speciesist. What Drew is saying is... Real thing, by the way. Speciesist?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. What? I actually wanted to ask the guy from the caller from Canada. I heard a really interesting podcast. There's a bill in Canada. Bill C-16, where they're trying to legally mandate like 70 new gender pronouns, and it can be, it's punishable if you don't use them. Yeah.

Canna's awesome. And by the way, he's from Montreal. They brought a Sid and Marty Crawf. And they're bringing back Sigmund and the C monster. So I'm sorry. I'm upset. Celebrate. Drew, here's the thing.

I'm being polemical, of course. I get it. But I think our thing is, look, we have the same thought, maybe a little different desk. Same destination, maybe a little different path. I'm just trying to soften your path, that's all. My feeling is people are capable of a lot and they're capable of a little. And it's now, here's the caveat, the same person. That's what people think.

People think, well, this guy can do this, but that gal can't do that or that guy does this and this gal does that. So when properly motivated? Within the same person, if motivated, if pushed a little, but more importantly, if you're willing to push yourself a little bit, then you can do all things. If not, and you start getting into this, well, people aren't capable of this or some people aren't capable of that. I disagree. I think the aforementioned Gary is extremely responsible when he needs to. to be and completely out of it when he needs to be and when he wants to be when he wants to be

or doesn't want to be yeah it does not never mistake him for a bad person right but don't mistake him for an effective person either do you ever think that you know not enough is made of attentional mechanisms you know paying attention the ability to focus and uh prioritize pay attention do you think there there's some theory i'm not saying adhere to it that we have sort of a limited capacity for focus and that ability to expand that capacity is a window that if it passes, you're done. That's a very good thought. And I would have argued with you a few years ago, but I'm no longer going to argue with you.

Because of how you find people to be. I don't even know where that window could be birth because it is early. Yeah, it's early. I tell my son, you know, sort of one thing once and we move on. and my daughter and I argue about the same thing for, you know, four years. Like it just doesn't. Well, there is some genetic elements, and there are some early attachment stuff, focus, you know, eye-to-eye contact with parents and stuff. And then what the teachers do later, yeah.

That's very much shaping attentional mechanisms. Frontal midline of the prefrontal cortex. I got a simple cure for all this. Right shit the fuck down. and then look at your little list and go, oh, I guess I'm supposed to do this and then just go do it. That's a super simple mechanical way to solve many of these vexing, deep, complex, psychological issues. All right. The 24-hour war, as expressed before, Chassis, C-H-A-S-S-Y.com.

Love it. We're doing it ourselves, Drew. Get the Stamps from Stamps.com. Ship it out. Ship it on out, man. Nick's got to lick those envelopes back there. Also, we got going racing with Adam Corolla. You guys can go check my hill climb over there at Goodwood.

My dad thinks that's a kind of ice cream. At the drive.com and Corolla drinks for the holidays. Now, Lynette's busting her butt on that thing. So go to Corolladrinks.com and reach out to her. Say hi, make her happy. Drew, what do you go? dot drew.com. We've got a bunch of podcasts there. Me and Spaz. People like that weekly

infusion. Everyone loves. Check it out. All right. So, until next time, I'm calling for Dr. Drew, saying, Mahala. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.