The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #510: I Wish There Would Be More Suicides

Episode Date: March 4, 2026

February 6, 2017Adam and Drew open the show discussing Drew’s conversion to the cold shower method that Adam has recently been advocating. They then turn to the phones and speak to a caller who is wondering how the so-called ‘snowflake’ culture has been shaping people today. The guys also discuss last week’s protests at UC Berkeley.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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please contact Connix Ontario at 1866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Hey, it's the throwback episode, February 6, 2017. Me and Dr. Drew, when we talk about the cold shower, when we talk about so-called snowflakes in their culture, we get into all of it. We also talk about some protests at UC Berkeley. I wish there would be more suicides.

Enjoy. Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get on. No choice to get it on, baby. And welcome to the show.

Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend. We do appreciate that and all you do for us. Good day, Drewski. What the hell are you wearing? It stunned me. I was like, are you playing Jules Dash? or is this really something that you're wearing?

I had to meet a big producer, a big director earlier today. And I just thought, you know what? I'm going to get some street cred here. That would be Jules Dash? But he's gone. He's gone. You don't want to take it off? You never know if it comes back?

I guess that's right. All right. So there's Dr. Drew. There's me over here. Drewski. Been taking cold showers. Have you? Yeah.

Been doing that. What have you been doing? More of a pussy version. You know, I'm hot, hot, hot, a little cold at the end. Never goes quite into the zone you're in, I think. I just won't go there. You know what I mean? You're out in fucking, fucking Arctic temperatures.

Yeah, the pool's in the 40s now. Yeah, no, I'm definitely not good down there. And then I'm going hot again at the end. Yeah. Well, you know, it's a, it's a weird thing that's cold plunging. Now, to be honest, and I think we all have a different approach to this. A lot of people go, oh, just throw yourself in the deep end and just jump out, you know, whatever. And I go, when you're in your 20s and 30s, no problem.

Yes. Later, it has a massive difference. I don't know what it is. I agree. Your skin will literally fall off. It feels like it. Or you're feeling of a heart attack. You feel like I won't live.

I, uh, the way it works best for me is to simply lower myself into the pool. Yeah. And I'm somehow comforted because my dog is very curious at this behavior and likes to sit or stand by the edge of the pool look down at me with this kind of weird yearning with a combination of what the fuck what are you doing this too cold for me with yet a sense of like he wants to join in

but it's too much too much why are you doing this and so he does this great thing which I've noticed it's very interesting he's very paw centric he'll pound on the glass with his paw to let you in when you're at home if he's laying down he'll take his paw and like kind of tap you if he wants something

calling what he has a paw does not fully expressed what he does. It's sort of a mitt. A mitt that he, or a punch. Yeah, he punches you. And so he just stands there and kind of pause it. Like, he takes his paw and he just like, I don't know what I need to do, but I need to like slap some sense in you with this paw.

Now, I don't think the shower thing would work out that well for me because the shower thing, first off, you're sitting there in hot water. I do this thing where I just get into my underpants. I get in my Tommy Johns, I just walk out to the backyard. So I'm already kind of cold. I've seen the Instagram posts, many of them. It's very erotic. No.

And I, I, uh, it's highly erotic. Tim and the Pants is looking. Yeah, yeah, for all the ladies. Yeah. So there's that. And then there's the part where you have to go from the hot into the cold, which makes the transition even bigger. And then because there's nothing going on, you're just standing there, 30 seconds has to

feel like 10 minutes. Yeah. And then you go hot again, which is nullifying what you're doing a little bit. Yeah, no, it's pussy. But I'm wondering how long you stay in that super cold water, just dunking out? I'll tell you, almost everything in life is easier to wrap your head around, whatever it is you're trying to do, if you can kind of consolidate, add a time to it, give it a beginning and an end, you know, it's a kind of a thing.

No, there's actually, we used to talk about this all the time. You and I? Yeah. Well, I will tell you, I don't remember if we did in this context now, but there's a lot of psychological literature that suggests that humans can tolerate more pain if they know how long and how much they're going to get. Oh, absolutely. And I would always say this.

If somebody says, I'm going to hold your head underwater and I'll just let you out when I'm ready to let you out, you'd freak out immediately. If they said, I'm going to hold your head underwater, it's going to be 15 seconds. You go, all right, and you'd relax and you'd let them do it. It might not be, you might not fall asleep, but it wouldn't be nearly as panicked as you were before. Yeah. And especially if there's discomfort associated with, like, it's cold water or whatever, right? Oh, yeah. Because, again, you might not like the 15 seconds, but you can take it.

you can do it. Can I tell everybody this? The way, there's two parts to doing things you don't want to do. Two parts. One is have the time limit, even if it's a little longer than you'd like, there's still a time limit. And then have a imperative or a mandate. I'll give you a perfect example. I enjoy listening to my friend Dennis Prager in the morning.

I like listening to his wisdom. Of course, I move on to Dr. Drew's show on KBC after I'm done with Prager. Thank you. But I enjoy listening to him. And as a student of radio, I know exactly how long his breaks are. They're about 6.630 kind of depending, right? Now, what I'm looking for is to spend about three minutes in the pool. I've decided that 30 seconds is a little short.

five minutes is gilding the lily and three minutes is a grand parker song worth of sitting in the pool and literally what i do is i got a couple of songs and they're like three three 30 three 28 whatever they are and i know if i'm listening to preger at nine a m or whatever at the top of the hour nine 30 whenever when he goes to break i now have six minutes and six minutes is plenty of enough time to hustle out, but not dilly-dally, because you're on the clock. And there's been a little bit of an imperative, like a little bit of a mandate. So it's a little bit of a, he's going to commercial and you go, got to go. Which helps.

Because if you don't have the got to go part, you'll just kind of go, well, I'll catch it next time. I used to time my nursing home around, so I would be in the car driving during your breaks. For Mr. Birch. For Mr. Birch. On Kevin and B. Kroch back in the day. You had that Saturday shift. Oh.

So I run in, see a patient. I make sure I saw what your clock was. I'd come back out to hear the breaks. I love that about you. And I do that as well for Drew's show, his radio show in the afternoon. And then also other people's shows on joy. I try to get the timing down. That's why we need a radio TiVo.

Why we don't have that to me is bizarre. I don't know. I have asked my assistant Matt to find that a million times. And now of that, if you were radio and you want to, to compete with podcasting. Wouldn't you get on that right away? Wouldn't that make perfect sense? Yeah, although one would argue that with the advertisers, that could be a problem.

Oh, that's what it is. But either way, he goes to break and I go, you got six minutes. So I sort of hustle out. I don't dilly-dally that much because I know it's time to get in the pool because I bring my phone with me and I'll play like a Graham Parker song and I'll just dunk myself and I'll sit there. Now all I have to do is get through the song. Yeah.

I'll be popped out of the pool and I'll be back. in my town bathrobe and that's the break three minutes a pretty long stretch for that kind of cold it really is it is i also make these stupid balls hurt by the end of it 40 degrees they should it's 47 48 i also will make little stupid prop bets with myself where i have to go from the deep to shallow end to the deep end and touch to drain you know and go all underwater stupid stuff like that the other day i fished out philly cheese steaks bone We, Drew and I went out to eat. Oh, yeah.

Drew bought me a lovely steak. That's one of the best piece of meat I've ever had. It was great. I brought the bone home. It was about Fred Flintstone type bone. It's like three feet long. I gave it to Phil and Phil promptly dropped in the pool and there it was on the deep end. So I had to go get it.

Oh, my God. I'd go down, touch it with my nose. That's the deal I made with myself. And by the way, with your feet. Adam was surprised that I paid for dinner. Did you both not hear him say that I owe him a thousand dinner? So I figure I owe him $999 now. Remember we were talking about MTV and stuff?

Gary, remember that? Are you all me a thousand dinners? Absolutely. I gave it some thought. I really, I drove home and I gave it some thought. And I went, wow, that's very undrew-like. But that is a, no. Here's what I mean, Drew.

And I really do, I mean this in all sincerity. All sincerity. Somehow this is going to come out feeling bad. but go ahead. We did, and you did, make more money because I went and pushed MTV to pay us more. And it wasn't something that was coming out of you because of your wiring and coming out of your camp for one reason or another. And I pushed it, and we ended up making a little more money. Nobody got rich.

But when I was joking with you about that, half joking, there's a part of you that internalized it. Yeah. And when, you know what, mathematically or practically, practically. The guy has a point. And then when we went out to dinner to an expensive dinner, I might add, that I invited Drew to. So I was way more than prepared to pay because to me, it's whoever does the inviting should do the paying. And I did the inviting. So I should do the paying. And when he insisted on it and then recited the fact that I yelled, he owes me a thousand dinners, I was driving home that night

and I was thinking that is that's true and a lot of people don't work that way most people don't work that way it's good to work that way all right let's go out to dinner every single night for the next for nine or nine days

well like two and three quarter years I would say all right let's see somebody's got to break up the girlfriend somebody's got a culture contributes to more suicides depression that's interesting it's 49 Tim from Chicago

Tim? Yes, sir? You have a hypothesis? Yeah, I listen to the Pott on the ACS show. You had that gentleman calling from the U-Kin and Duncan. He was talking about depression and suicide. This is a few weeks ago. But I just wonder, with all the kind of the weird false hysteria going on with Trump

and just kind of the snow-like culture, if that's going to contribute to more depression and suicide, and, you know, those kind of tendencies. It'd be nice. But I suspect it'll lead to more depression and then let's go light the cop car on fire. So we're not getting our way. Milo Yanopoulos is speaking and we've got to get out and burn something. I don't know the – it sounds like it could be the case, but I don't know that it is the case.

I can't imagine, Drew, the – and this is part of my decreed. that everyone wants to know, you know, what's wrong with me. Part of my thing when I hear people saying, hey, if you're a black person, you have a target on your back. And you've got to know that the popo's gunning for you. And then I have to, if I'm Sandra Bullock and I adopt a young black child, when that kid turns eight, I need to sit down and talk to him about danger, about the society we're living in,

about what it's going to take for him to get through the day. and come home without a bullet hole in him. I'm going to need to talk to him about that. I find, or I'm Latina and I'm here and I'm hardworking and I'm freaked out that my parents are going to be deported and dropped off in Tijuana in a dumpster. Or I'm a lesbian. Or I'm gay.

And I'm worried about being rounded up and put into internment camps and things like that. If I was walking around with that in my head, Yeah. If I was like literally going, I may never see my children again. You'd certainly run at the cops try to stop you. I'd do anything because the cops got their hands on me. They're going to beat me down. Yeah.

When the cop tells me to lay down in the street and put class my fingers and hands behind my back, no way. We're going to wrestle for his gun because he's going to kill me. He'll execute me. If I lay down. Isn't that crazy? Well, I'm making the argument and I have tried to make this argument to some of my friends on the left. You're not doing these people a service by explaining to everybody, society is gunning for you. There's the culture.

There's systemic, fill in the blank, homophobia, xenophobia, racism, you know, systemic. Systemic means this is our culture. This is what we have nationwide. So there's systemic racism or systemic xenophobia or systemic, you know, Homo, whatever, whatever. And you're not going to get anywhere because you're a woman, because you're black, because you're whatever. Of course it's going to send those groups into some sort of weird, psychological. It's going to put them in a place that I don't envy.

I never sit down and talk to my kids about the horrors of anything. I just tell them, you know, hey, do your homework, have your fun, let's get it done. Like, you know, the world will sort of treat you accordingly to see what you do. Try not to lay. Oh, sure, they're white kids. So what I got to tell them about. There may be a situation with you being this color or that color or praying to this God or that God or your sexual proclivities. There may be something that society does in terms of that.

Granted. Now, explaining and freaking out the members of that. group is not going to help them. So let's move on. That's the way I like to go, but that's just me. And yes, anyone who believes any of the stuff they're seeing on the news is going to have to be freaked out if they believe it. I find that I find they don't believe it. I got a theory, Drew.

Yeah. You ready? Yeah. You're going to owe me another dinner for this. You ready, Tim? Yes, sir. The religious people, you know my theory that religious people really don't. believe it. They're convinced it. They're convinced everybody else. Yeah. Yeah. And if you really did believe

it, then you wouldn't be banging your secretary and you wouldn't be cheating on your taxes. You wouldn't be chain smoking. Like you did be a whole bunch of stuff that you just wouldn't do that you're currently engaged in if you really believed it. I think this is the left's, far left's religion that they keep talking about and they keep trying to engage others in and they keep just like the proselytizing goes on. But when they go, home and beat off, they don't believe it. Well, I would say as it pertains to looking at everybody else and seeing violent, you know, violence, and then they become the violent perpetrators.

That's the greatest thing. Listen, a friend of mine's son sent something from Berkeley last night. He's a student up there, and he said he, I haven't seen this yet. I'm going to play it? It's a kid being, he, he's a 20-year-old student, gets attacked by one of these guys with a crowbar. he drops the kid and smacks him down. And then the girlfriend attacks all of this guy's friends with a baseball bat.

Let's lay out. Let's see. I've got to play this. Well, give it to Gary, would you? Send it to Gary and then we'll do it. All right. Tim, I wish there would be more suicides. I don't think these people are going to kill themselves because I think they're like too narcissistic. But I do think they're going to just get out and raise hell.

and I cannot I it's funny because I I always have my mom sort of ringing in my ear where they're she you know if it wasn't Nixon it was Ford

if it wasn't Ford it was DDT if it wasn't DDT it was what we did the indigenous people it was just move on it just keep moving on to the next what's what's horrible about this country and then I realized first of all

you live in this country. Secondly, I don't know, why no attempts to move to your beloved Europe? Like, I feel like, go to Canada, go to Vancouver. It's beautiful there. Like, see what you can do to get the hell out of this dangerous, homo xenophobic hellhole that we call the United States. And then how miserable when my mom lived in North Hollywood is, she was like right in the middle of the whole mess.

But it's a better way. Somebody told me recently, you should just get up every morning. When you get up, step out of bed and say thank you. It's a better way to start you. Way better. Right. Rather than go running to the cable station, see what's wrong with this nation. Which, by the way, somehow is, you know, it was actually a funny thing that I heard between jumping in the pool.

Thanks, Tim. Appreciate it. You're welcome. One thing I heard Dennis Prager say this morning, which is funny. but actually was true before jumping in the pool. He said the one good thing to come out of all the crazy hysteria that's running around is the left talking about how great this country was in the past tense. Think about it.

Before all the hysteria broke out, no one ever talked about what a proud, open arm, what a great nation we were. Not the left, not six months ago, not two years ago. We're horrible. Yeah. We're horrible. At least we get to live in the past. Now what are they saying?

This country was built on acceptance of immigrants. This country is proud. This country was this country opened its arms to the, well, at least we were once great now. You've never heard the left talking such glowing terms about this country because now, in order to make your point now, you have to. to build us up. Now, we all know six months ago you were just talking shit about this country and talking about what a horrible place it was,

but think about all the speeches about how great this nation used to be, how proud of people we were and how glorious we were. You never heard those kind of glowing terms. And let me remind people, when we were great like that, as my family had to tolerate,

it was hell to get into this country. Took my family years to get in and a lot of money It had to be raised by sponsors. There had to be people that vouch for the people coming in. You couldn't come directly in. You had to go to Canada first. You had to prove how you were going to make money.

It was a mess. You had to have family here. It took forever. And my family was running away from Bolsheviks. Yeah. And they're passed. All right. Do you want to hear that tape?

I do. I want to tell you guys first. You got the tape? Sorry. So what? This is a friend of your son? is at Berkeley and he went out last night and he got attacked by that mob just attacked last night is Thursday oh i make your pardon get a Wednesday night sorry it was a week ago yeah Shopify no one wants

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All right. So your friend's sons at Berkeley, Milo Yanopolis, no stranger to my show, gets out there. And the violent, violently protesting. His speech, which was underway. and... It was underway. Yeah. And it got so violent the cops had to shut everything down. Yeah.

Oh, we can turn it down a little, please. That one. The guy's banging on the glass of a... What was that? Starbucks. With a crowbar. Right. And by the way, what?

I thought Starbucks was sort of down with the... With them. Yeah. But also, you know what drives me nuts? And I'd like this to... The thing where it's... like, ah, they started fires, they destroyed property, uh, they punched people. No arrests. Why not? Why aren't there arrests? I know. That's what should change. Well, in a, in a week...

If you and I went out and banged on a Starbucks window with our fist, we'd be arrested. Yeah. So I'd like there to be some arrest. I wish there would be arrest when you're destroying property and fire. If you really think you're committing civil disobedience, you're supposed to take the consequence of the civil disobedience. The cop should buy it. The whole means be arresting. That's the one thing about those huge protests they have. Nobody ever gets arrested. I don't know what the cops are doing.

And I know their whole thing is like they're sort of looked at as the man and they don't want to escalate things. But this sort of let the cops be the cops, right? Yeah. So Milo's given a speech and they're going to burn everything down. And it's on campus. And again, what's the upside one more? time the upside of well i just mean of the demonstration like what's the purpose well i i thought

stop me if i'm wrong but wasn't the whole deal with the students and not at the you know not at university nebraska but i just mean the the more progressive places wasn't the idea that i'm supposed to show up and i'm an artist who uses my fecal matter and as my acrylic paint and as a canvas, I use discarded pictures of Jesus. And so I draw swast stickers on Jesus. And that's what I do with stool matter. And then your thing is, is you're very progressive,

so you have to go, look, while we may disagree with drawing swast stickers out of fecal matter. The things we disagree with most, we must protect. We must protect the most because this is what makes this campus in this country great. This is who we are. understand you being upset and you voicing your opinion peacefully, but letting this person have their forum to share the swastika fecal matter, Jesus, that's what we're here. We understand.

That's what we represent. That's what we're here for. What happened to that? It's gone. Now, the great news is I probably could do Jesus with swastikers and fecal matter and probably not run into this, right? You just can't say Donald Trump is great. You could not say that. That would cause a fire, right? That would be the end of it. Yeah, all right.

Well, but it is pretty crazy how far this has gone, though, don't you think? Well, I'll tell you what it is. I'll tell you what's... And the question is what to be done about it and what about the Constitution and free speech and what the hell's going on here? Well, I'll tell you what's going on. What's going on is kids will be kids. and it's up to the adults to supervise the kids. So if...

I was talking to an attorney today and I said, well, what if you could send in more police? What if you send in the National Guard? And they went, oh, can't state. The images of that, you couldn't possibly. I mean, I thought, no, he's right. Listen, here's the deal with everybody. Cops should do what cops do.

Parents should do what parents do. And pundits should do what pundits do. and pundits do. And so do your job, but be an adult. The adults are supposed to be adults. We now have 60-year-old males on CNN going, that's hate speak right there. And this guy, you know, we have a president that's attacking people simply because of their religion and something like, hey, you're supposed to be the calm voice.

of reason, the 19-year-old out on the street throwing the trash can through the window. That's the 19-year-old out on the street. Cops, you arrest that guy, six-year-old newscaster, you deal in facts and not in emotion, and things will work out. If you're running around, pulling your hair out, the 19-year-old's out on the street starting the fires, and the cops are just standing back with their hands up going, I'm not going to get involved here. Well, now, what do we have?

Well, we have what we have now. That's what we have now. It's adults being turned into adolescent children. They're not being adults. Adults used to be adults. It was up to the dudes who are doing the news. They'd just be sitting there smoking with the pomade in their hair and the horn room glasses.

And they just be laying out information. Now they're all merchants of feelings. They deal in feelings. They deal in emotions. So now you got the guy who's anchoring the news, who's telling you all about the feelings, and then you have the 19-year-olders watching the news going,

oh, my God, let's go out and do something. This guy's a monster. And then you got the cops going, ah, just let the fire burn itself out. And that's where we're living. It's like to Brad. Brad is on line one. Brad, 33.

Hey, how's it going, Adam? How's going, Drew? Good, man. I've been listening to you guys for like 20 years. So it was like in high school. Thank you. So the first I've ever called. Yeah, man.

So I started dating this girl. She's 25. I lost my job while we started dating. And I kind of wasn't into it. And I was trying to get out. And then she started texting me that she was pregnant. And I'm not in a really hot place to have a kid. I'm not really into the girl.

But I'm not 19 and knocked a girl up. So I'm just, I don't know, I'm feeling pretty dark about everything. Does it make sense that you would be pregnant? I don't know. I mean, the reason I don't really want to be with her is she's kind of nuts. And she said she was on contraceptive, that she got the ring put in. But she was having, like, spotting, bleeding. And I had been with a girl who had a miscarriage of twinned at about four months,

and I look like implantation bleeding is. So I would, I'd say I'm like 80% sure it's probably right, and then there's 20% crazy that it could just be her not dealing with me wanting to get out well, but I don't know what to do. Well, she's obviously, if she's not pregnant, she's not going to get pregnant, right? Right. Well, I don't know. I mean, that's, there's, I know her through a bar where I'm working at now in between getting, you know,

an office job. And people at the bar have said, oh, I can't believe you're going out with that girl. That girl, you know, she's all over other guys. So, yeah, I mean, she could get pregnant with someone else. She could get pregnant with me. She could have been making up the whole getting the NUVA ring. I don't know. Oh, Brad, why don't you go get tested and do the DNA thing?

I don't know how soon you can do the DNA thing. How soon can do the DNA thing? It's like six weeks in. Six weeks, she is six weeks in. Yeah, that's what she says is she's six weeks pregnant. You're not, it's going to, you know, when the baby's born, essentially, if there is a baby. Right. There is no before the baby's born.

I'm sure there's something, but I wouldn't get that. But how do you, what do you do if she's, how do you establish that she's pregnant? That was the question. Well, that's the next one. Yeah. And, you know, if she, I mean, do you get a blood test? Do you go in and? Well, listen, I would, I would establish whether she's pregnant or not.

Secondly, I feel bad to the kids that are born to Crazy Mama. But I found that most people, no matter what the circumstances are, seem to feel somewhat blessed at some point that they have a child in any, even when the circumstances are not right. There's actually a series about that called Catastrophe. I think it's on Hulu. It's very good. It's about a guy that impregnates an Irish woman in London,

and he goes back and creates a life. And it's very fun, very interesting. Yeah, so I think big picture, even if she's not the one or you didn't have any plans on this or whatever it is, I think you'll stand back and feel a sense that you're blessed with this child. So you can, A, get her to urinate on a stick and you've got to see it happen because you don't want her to adulterate anything. Or take her like immediately to urgent care or gynecology office get a blood test for pregnancy. and then once there is a child, then you get the paternity test. And as Adam said, I think I would look positively about it.

Until next time, I'm crawling for Dr. Drew Sane. Mahala.