The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #516: Valley Forge

Episode Date: March 11, 2026

February 14, 2017 Adam and Drew open the show discussing Adam’s kids recent school trip to Valley Forge and how it led to the discovery that kids simply will not respond if you try to interrupt their sleep in the middle of the night. They then turn to the phones and speak to a caller with a suggestion for Adam to end an annoying automotive phenomenon and another who is wondering how to help out a friend whose life is seemingly falling apart. As the show winds down the guys take a very serious call from a former child abuse survivor who is looking to keep his abuser in jail for his full sentence and have his parole denied.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on, man. Got to get it on. No choice but to get on. Mandate. Get it on. I'm Adam Perol over there. That's Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr.ewski.

Yeah, baby. Happy Valentine's Day, everybody. Is that what it is? It is Valentine's Day. Yeah, man. Thank you for your, I'm going to say thank you behalf of your wife for paying attention. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Love that.

Now, as we tape this program, my kids are out at Valley Forge. Oh, yeah. So it's a little quiet over at the house. Kind of nice. I saw that. I saw Lynette posted. They left like three in the morning in the rain. That was crazy.

And a bus. They go to the airport, right? They're not bus. Pennsylvania. It was a long haul. You're going to have to fill up probably two, three times in the school bus. Yeah, no, it was the day after Super Bowl. And I really don't count as the day after.

I would say the morning of or the evening of, like, Lynette was getting the kids up at 2 a.m. By the way, it's like kids just don't respond at 2 a.m. when you tell them to wake up. Like, Sonny's like, you know, pass out. And then you, you know, wake up. And then you go into the kitchen and you come back. He's just asleep again. Like, it's a little bit of a task to, it's a bit of an ask to say the Monday after the Super Bowl.

Too much a. 10 year olds. We need everyone here at 3 a.m. When it's raining outside. It's like, I don't know. Why not just leave it a normal time? Like, I get it. Like, like, when people say all the time, like, they'll go, well,

Well, if we leave at three, if we get there at three, then it'll be wheels up at 3.20, then we can catch the six of whatever flight, and then we can land with still enough. And it's like, I get it. There's a method to your madness. I would then counter everything you say with Super Bowl Sunday when everyone's drinking and partying and eating and wet. 2 a.m., you would like all the parents to get up at 2 a.m. wake their kids up, feed them, get them ready, take all the luggage in everything, like out to the car at 2.45 when it's dark and rain. And people are disoriented at this point and then drive them to school and drop them all register with the whatever.

And then like, shouldn't one just leave at 8 a.m.? Like what time do you drop them off at school? Certainly their flights. So it's the two of you alone in the house. How's that going? It's nice. All right, good. It's enjoyable.

Philly Cheesesteak, who couldn't stop from sleeping on my head this morning. And also does this thing to me when I'm asleep, which is punches me in the back with his paw, but because he's so dexterous that I've never seen a dog like sort of pump, pump, like use his paw, slap stuff and does stuff, that when you're sleeping and you're on your side and you don't really have a ton of context, and it's the middle of the night, and you feel this jab, like, and it's like, oh, is I snoring?

Like, all you can think of is there's a human being that's doing this move, like, hey, hey, knock it off, or use your nose or open your mouth or something. So my first impulse is always that, oh, Lynette's poking me. Jabbing you, right? He lies next to me and just pokes at me. For the heck of it? He pokes with his paw, and then at a certain point,

he'll get up, put his head on my pillow and lie all the way along the headboard, and he'll take up the entire bed and won't stop putting his head on top of my head. This is just weird thing. So that part's a little rough. The part where the kids aren't running around is nice. And not so much for me, but I realize kids drive moms nuts. Yes. I've told you this. No, they don't drive me nuts.

No, they have to suck mom's souls from their body all the time. It's weird. And it starts immediately upon birth. Yes. And dad does not substitute for that. No. For that soul sucking thing. He does not.

Yeah. And so what happens is, is mama is in a constant state of agitation. Yeah. Low-grade agitation. Yeah, because they're always like, mom, mom, mom, mom. I mean, imagine, they talk about the, now you know what your mom yells at you if you want to talk to her about, what were you complaining about that? I like that you tune out, just like my family, Drew.

No, my mom, no, my mom is just more of a, you didn't. What was he were talking about? It's bothering me now. Ford Fiesta. Oh, yes, Fistiva, right. No, my mom is, you didn't talk to her about anything. Yeah. No conversation.

But that's, you know, the moms feel a different pull. Lynette. She would have none of it. Natalia is a grinder. She grinds everybody. and Lynette does not have the ability to withstand the grind. Screen it. I can screen the grind, but it's a constant.

And so when the kids leave, all of a sudden, Lynette is just like, you know. And of course, when she's like, it makes life a lot easier on me because it's not this constant aggravation, irritation. So it's funny now you've got a new perspective now that, you're usually. She's always telling you she got these kids. She's got this kid. And you're like, oh, you got an Olga. It's different. The mom gets pulled on, even when there's an Olga.

No, no, I get it. But what I'm saying is, is when the kids are at school or being picked up by the nanny or doing whatever. I'm not arguing. You do not have to invest, engage in whatever large quant. Everyone is always a mom. Everyone's concerned about their kids. Everyone's whatever. Just like now that they're in Pennsylvania, you're still.

concerned about them, but you don't have to give away as much energy. Save it for, you know, when they fall out of the tree and break their arm kind of thing. Yeah. You know, that's all I'm saying. But again, that's a rational thought, to be fair to me. All right, let's talk to Travis. Travis? Hey.

What's going on, man? Hey, man. How you doing? Good, man. You got something about a seatbelt? So, I, you know, full disclosure, I've not listened to you. your podcast in a long time, and I apologize. All right.

I know several years ago you were super interested in how to stop making your seatbelt dang, like in your Maserati. Is that still a thing for you or not? Well, we can talk about it. I don't have a Maserati, but. Didn't you have a Maserati like a few years ago? No, am I wrong? I'll do what I do in almost all facets of life.

I don't have a Maserati. I've never had a Maserati. Oh, okay. All right. Well, one of your fancy cars. In any case, one of your fancy cars, yeah. I wear my seatbelt, so I don't have a problem with it. The prom is the aforementioned 110-pound Philly Cheesesteak, who likes to crawl around and gets into the passenger seat while I'm driving and activates the thing.

I've got the solution for you, brother. Please. I was recently in Portugal, the taxi driver in Portugal, had the most ingenious solution to this problem. because, you know, it's the same thing there. Like, the ding happens, like. Whatever the thing is. I'm interested. Go ahead.

Yeah, yeah, the ding happens when you're, like, sitting the passenger of the driver's seat. And what he did is he went on to eBay, and he bought a, like, just the buckle for his seatbelt. And he just, he has it on his dashboard, and he just sticks in the seatbelt thing. Just the mail. Just the buckle.

Yeah, just the buckle. Yeah, just the buckle. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah.

Yeah, that's doable because a lot of people do it and they put it behind them. You know, they sit on the seatbelt. To me it's like at some points it become more trouble than it's worth. And then how about the people, Drew? Thank you, Travis. That's a good idea. I don't really, I guess I need it for Phil. But Drew, it's a weird thing.

You tell me the wiring of people. Like when they go, I'll put your seat behind. I don't like it. I feel confined. It's like, I feel confined. That's a confining feeling to you? Like, it feels like you're wearing a sash that says, you know, miscongeniality or something. How confined?

By the way, I enjoy the feeling of security. Yeah, of just being into my seat. Right. But why is that, like, why does that put people off? It's funny, you would say that I was listening to Stern and Wendy, the slow adult, was talking about not being willing to wear the seatbelt because she doesn't like how it feels on her neck. I was like, and I was driving at the time, I thought, I don't feel anything. I don't feel anything either.

And if I did, it's like the same. It's like the same feeling I feel like wearing a belt. Yeah, our shoes or something. I like the idea that there's something holding my pants up. Yeah. Weird, right? In fact, in fact, so much so I've had this conversation over the years is how the hell do we sit in that seat without a belt? I have.

It's so weird to me the thought that we did that back in the day. I got to tell you, in the race cars, they have a six-way. harness, which sounds mathematically improbable, but the six-way harness goes around the nut sack on the lower side. There's two coming out through there. One of my biggest efforts involving the car is torquing those things down, getting them pulled so tight. It takes a couple guys got to lean in and yank on stuff.

It's not conducive the seats in this area and stuff. Sometimes you can't get the stuff where the door is. and the roll bar and stuff. But I pull that stuff down so tight. Like you're an astronaut or something. Yes, that I am just jammed into that seat. Couldn't possibly go anywhere. And it's a good feeling.

I love that feeling. I don't get why some people find that. I mean, obviously, there's a sort of a psychological thing that has to do with it. Or maybe it's a non-conformist thing. I don't know. I can't get it. I don't get it either, but it's the easiest way you can say, your life and it's

no harm, no foul. I don't get why he would do that. But anyway, all right, let's see. We've got a posse, right? Lots of calls. I'll go to line one. Talk to Corey, 31, Michigan. Corey? Thanks, Drew. How are you guys? Good, man. It's happening.

Good. Hey, I've got a situation with a good friend of mine. He's one of the grooms in my wedding. There's kind of five of us that are sort of a core group of buddies, and this one friend is life that's starting to sort of unravel around him and trying to figure out, you know, if we should

step in or, you know, what to do, what to say to the guy. He's hard to talk to because if you do it, you know, if it's kind of sober, he gets mad and we'll leave wherever we are. If you get a couple beers in him, then he just wants to cry about it. What's happening? What's happening? He's, he lives his life like he's perpetually 19, and we're all 31, 32. He can't budget his money so his girlfriends kick him out.

He refuses to acknowledge that back to us, even though we all know it. We're pretty sure he's been sleeping in his car at least a couple nights a week. He intimated to a friend of mine that he thought McDonald's was open 24 hours because he wanted to go in there at one in the morning to charge his phone, and he couldn't. I was on a Wednesday. So there's some mental illness, something really substantially wrong. Why isn't able to work? You think it's substantially wrong?

Well, we'll see. No, he works. He has a full-time job, works 40 hours a week. He isn't, he's a, you know, sort of a $12 an hour kind of guy. But he's held the same job for, you know, three, four years. You know, and he's a fairly normal person, but he just doesn't have him grown up at all. Wait a man. That's a meaningless phrase.

I know that's kind of fair about. Yeah, so I'm trying to understand what you're talking about. How many hours a week does he work? 40. Why does he live in his car? It doesn't live in his car. Because his girlfriend's kicking him out of the house. And she kicks...

But he won't acknowledge that to us. But he won't acknowledge that to us, even though she's told us all that that's happening. And why is she doing that? He can't get his shit together in the bills department, I think. No, so we don't know what's going on. So all we really know is that there's something, terribly wrong in that relationship and that his living environment

is compromised because of something in that relationship where you don't know what that something is. That's the only thing we know for sure. Whether there's domestic violence, he may be the object of the domestic violence. Who knows? And we don't really know why this is happening. Are they doing drugs together? Is somebody

mentally ill? Is he? Is she? I mean, you've got to sit him down and go, what is up? What's going on here? Why all this chaos? This is not okay. Is he dumb? That's relatively to, I mean, I would like to think, you know, some of the other people I know, but, I mean, he's not a, he's not, he doesn't have any sort of mental impairment at all. Yeah, there's some people that are just dumb.

There is such a thing. Right. And they just don't have any feel for life. Like they have no way to escape themselves or repeatedly making the same mistakes. They just can't figure out life. It's like they're not, life's a little bit vexing. Nobody ever really walked them through it or told them what it was going to take or so on and so forth. And then they don't have the mental horsepower to sort of pull themselves through it.

But again, he's working four hours a week. He's maintaining a job. And we don't know. All we know is that he's kicked out regularly. It's all we really know. We don't know why. And you've got to find out. what's going on? And if they need a couple's, whatever it is, it needs help. It needs to

and or it needs help, one or the other. They need to be a major change. All right. So what kind of, let me ask you this just real quick. What would you suggest for us as his friends as of some means to get through him? You know, how should we attack that? Do not walk on eggshells. Look, you care about him. You're concerned with him. You're out of the house for you had to what that's going on? Just be a lot of wonderment, a lot of questions. Like, what's that all about? Don't, hey man, don't get accusational. Don't use a lot of. lot of sentences that begin with you, just a lot of what's, why wonder what that is or what's going on, how can we help?

A lot of questions. And then, hmm, that doesn't sound right. That can't be okay. Just a lot of affirmation, reflection, and questioning. And you'll get the information. You'll find out what's going on. Becca. Hello?

33, Utah. Yep, that's me. Thanks for taking my call, guys. Yeah, man. What's going on? Man. Yeah, man. So I'm 33.

I'm a virgin. I've never had a boyfriend, never done anything. But I'm getting to the age where I kind of want to have kids. But I'm kind of questioning myself. What would be the cause of your virginity? I was fat when I was young until just a couple years ago, like the kind of fat you would point and stare at. Okay. I've lost all the weight.

I'm healthy now. For the last year, I've been dating and stuff, I just, like, haven't, I don't really like people sometimes, I think is now the issue. How much weight have you lost? 218 pounds. Right. That's good. The 200 pound overweight folks often have all that body around them to protect themselves from people. They were physically, emotionally, whatever, abused as a kid, and they don't like people, and they have to keep a buffer between them and others.

This is what we see all the time when people get this gastric bypass surgery. They sometimes get very depressed and really can't navigate because suddenly they've lost all this weight and people are getting close to them again and they don't know how to tolerate closeness, both physical closeness and emotional closeness. And if you can't navigate that, you need to get therapy. It's important. It's easy to treat. Well, I've been in therapy before. I was depressed when I was heavy. And I wasn't abused in any way as a child, no sexual, no.

I have a very traditional family, parents still together. And I was in therapy for several years. Hold on. No one ever shamed you as a child. I was bullied kind of in school, but I don't want to even say bullied. I was made fun of for being fat. Okay, so that's an issue. But what about your parents?

What happened to home? My parents were great. my dad was overweight and my mom's a little overweight but never ashamed they've always been very supportive not judgmental at all no sibling that

I have an older brother who I love and he's awesome okay all right listen back so you just got unlucky if you just got unlucky and you lost the weight weren't you able to engage now oh no like I I got cancer which helped me lose the weight

What kind of cancer? Ovarian cancer. Boy, all right. Yeah. But part of it was they took out one of my ovaries, and that was supposed to be very simple surgery, and I did not do well with recovery because I was so overweight, which is what made me, like, that's enough. Now I'm going to get healthy.

And now I think I am very, very healthy. And like that, I date, and I have really good friends. I just I I don't know like I I've never wanted to have sex with someone

that I wasn't in love with and I've never been in love not even close yeah listen Becca I mean hold on what I was reacting to is I don't like people though

that's what I was reacting I don't like people as a whole not like I have individual people that's a that's a semi strong statement and I concur on occasion but but here's the

Here's the thing, Becca. You know, for somebody who's been through what you've been through and are at where you're at now, you probably have the least permanent scars, baggage, or whatever, that we've ever really spoken to. There's usually some molestation or there's some issues or whatever. Okay. So you've managed to have this kind of life in the face of without being provoked. Right. seemingly just genetically or whatever.

Yeah. So, I got it. So now, no excuses. Your health is good. You've lost the weight. You weren't abused. Let's get on with it. Let's have some relationships.

Let's begin to be intimate with people. Whether you have sex with them or not is a separate issue. But just closeness is what I was responding to. You don't seem to tolerate close as well, but it's time to do that. Maybe you have no experience with it. Well, I have no experience with it. And what a, you can't, I mean, the notion. So just we give you permission to get on with it.

Well, now that you have good friends. You know what that feels like. So let's do, let's start with friendships and hanging out with people and being close to people, then see if a romantic thing evolves. What I'm saying is, is if you take a young girl and you make her big fat from, you know, 11 years on and she's just a big fat girl all. the way through junior high and high school. And, you know, then there's all these proms and things that come and go. And then you're the fat girl in college. And then you're the fat 25-year-old receptionist at the law firm or whatever it is.

You're just that fat girl the whole time. And now you're not fat. Whatever it is, whatever mechanisms you need for interactions and coping and intimacy and stuff, it's all going to be out the window. Your identity's gone. Never had an interaction or this experience. I mean, you want to talk about stunted. And it's like somebody saying, I never went to school day in my life.

I've never learned a read or write. It's like, well, you must be dyslexic. No, it's just you've never learned. You never were there. You never went through the paces. We all went through and we kind of take for granted and no one really even thinks about it. She never went through it. So she's behind.

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Hey, Adam. Dr. Drew. Thanks for taking my call. I appreciate it. Sure, Jason. This is a slightly different call than you normally get for your show. I actually need your help, and I need your army of listeners to help me. Let me give you some background. So I'm a statistic.

I was molested by a man named Doc Corley, who is my scoutmaster and a church youth leader back in 1986 to 92. So it was like a six-year time frame. How old were you? In 95 years, I started off when I was like 11 and ended up when I was right about 17. So it was some pretty formidable years there. 95, he was caught. He admitted a guilt and was put to jail for 30 years. And then over time, we think there were at least 43 boys that were molested over a period of many years.

Have you had contact with them? Well, that's a funny question, Dr. Drew. About 10 years into his jail sentence, he had his lawyer reach out to me and asked me not to deny his parole not to speak up. he didn't like jail very much and wanted to get out. So that actually was probably one of the best things that ever happened to me. It lit a fire under me because I didn't want to talk about it up until that point. I just want to go away and start living my own life. I was dealing with shame and all sorts of feelings that came with that.

But I got really angry when his lawyer contacted me. Well, Drew, hold on a second, Jason. Yeah. You know, they say the average number of times you've driven drunk before your first DUIs like 80 times. Wow. That's what they say. And, you know, you can fudge those numbers and, you know.

Is that right? 80 times? That's crazy. I've just heard it. Wow. Okay. Now, who knows? And the point is, is maybe that means you'd had a martini and driven or whatever it is.

They're counting everything all the time. But either way, you'd do a lot of driving before you get your DUI. I imagine with molestation, by the time you go to court, how. How many kids, if this is your thing? Yeah. I mean, the over under's got to be 40 kids. I mean, if your youth pastor or whatever. I've always said, they don't do it once.

And this is your thing? It's your sexual thing. You're going to be doing your sexual thing. Yeah. You know, so. Mad. Mother's Against Drug and Driving says 80 times. But again, they can be doing the, you know, you got to always take everything with

grain of salt because if you're this group, you know, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, you know, your advocate for female safety on campus, as you say one and every five women is raped before her 14th birthday, whatever, it's all nonsense. But still you get an idea. Right. Go ahead. All right. Well, he's up for parole again.

On March 17th of this year, he's in Alabama. He wants to get out. I don't want him to get out. The other 42 victims don't want him to get out. And so we build a website to help give some details around this and some context around the issue. He was put in jail for 30 years. We wanted to stay in jail for 30 years, so it's 30 is 30.com. And what we really want is anybody, no matter where you are across the world, no matter who's listening, you can write a letter. Take 10, 15 minutes, write a letter, put in the

mail, cost of the stamp, send it to the Alabama Pardons and Pro Board, tell them to deny the Scott Coroll. I got all the details of the address on the website. I just need letters. I need as many listeners as possible to write a letter. Let me ask something. Let me ask a really bad man in jail. Let me know something silly. But why not give an email address there right there on the website? So while they're visiting your site, they can just push something through.

The Alabama Partisan Pro Board does not believe that emails are valid records right now. So they'll only take U.S. Postal Service. 2017, everybody. How long has he been in? been in for about 25 years. If we get full denial here, this will be the last time he'll be up for parole. And if he's denied, he'll serve a full 30-year sentence. And that's all I can ask for now.

Yeah, well, look. I wish he was in Joe longer. But, hey. Jason, I got to tell you, in a day and age where people murder people and do seven years. Yeah. Full 25 out of 30, I was expecting, I wasn't doing the math, but, you know, a lot of three to five. Yeah, a lot of people do increments of that time. So first off, you're ahead of the game in terms of this guy being incarcerated.

And then secondly, I'm just kind of wondering for Jason. Let it go. Well, not let it go, but I don't want it just to become his adult life. Right. So have you had treatment for the trauma? I've had many, many hours of treatment, Dr. Drew. And Adam, I get your point. I really get your point.

I don't get to go out of jail, right? I get to deal with this. Dr. Drew, continual therapy, continually deal with it. And I'll be honest with you. Taking action in this issue has done a whole lot to help me grow and mature and heal and all of that. And I just want to finish what we started. So just to stay with you, have you had sex? trauma treatment?

Yes, I have. Okay. All right. All right. And look, Jason, I don't blame you. Yeah. No, no, not at all. Right.

I mean, quite true. What I'm saying is this, though, you just said, look, you just want to see this through and then you'll let it go. I don't know that you'll just let it go. I hope that you will let it go. I don't know if there's such a thing as let it go. Yeah. But what I would try to impress on you is if I had some words of healing, I would say that you were victim.

And we're talking about drunk driving. Right. It's like being a horrible accident. Right. And hit by a drunk driver. And so there's a lot of healing and a lot that you have to go through. and nothing's your fault. But also understand that the drunk driver is just a drunk driver.

You're simply another car he plowed into. I don't, the internalization of sort of why me or what was he doing or what was he thinking, I would get out of that mode because I don't think these guys look at you as you. No, of course not. You're just an object. You're just an object. It's just like the car they hit. Now, the outcome is rehab and, you know, therapy and all sorts of horrible stuff that you'd go through.

Just like if you were in a car accident. Just like you go to the car accident. But I don't think it would behoove you to hang on to the motivation. And even to some grieve of the punishment. Now, if the person you think is going to get drunk and get behind the wheel again, that's certainly something to consider. I will tell you, though, that having dealt with this a bit, the families of loved ones and the ones, people that are hurt and stuff, do want to see the drunk driver brought to justice. I agree.

I agree. I'm just saying for your own personal whatever, this band's a sick and broken individual who should not be forgiven, but also probably can. I'm sure if you had a magic wand and you asked the guy, would you like to not be this way? and have consensual sex with females who are of your age, I'm sure he'd take it. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's weird to think about people having that sexual drive for fill in the blank, all kinds of weird things that humans do. You know what I mean?

Yeah. It's got to be so, such a, yes. Adam, I'll take your analogy a little bit farther with the drunk driving. I would say that this is part of my, uh, therapy, part of my rehabilitation. And I know, you know, if, if I'm Sam, I'm going to get up and walk again. I know that. I know there's a light at the end of the tunnel.

And I'm just looking for some accountability. That's all. I don't have a lot of feelings. I agree it. I'm just looking to carry out what the system gave on. What's the website again? What's the website again? It's 30.30.com.

And we appreciate every letter over the next couple of weeks. We really would be thankful. Okay. Excellent. And I think it might be good, too, if he were together with other victims. You know what I mean? I think that would be interesting. too. Wouldn't it feel

sort of be validating to see the other hundred things? You know my thing, Drew. You know my thing. Keep to yourself, shut up. No. Try No. Try to avoid people. Human

contact. Right. Human contact. Right. No, no. Try to avoid immersing yourself in, let's not turn this horrible events into a lifestyle. No, I don't know. I'm saying you coached him up a little bit I think you heard okay until next time mada parole for Dr. Drew saying Mahalo