The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #52: Dabbling In Gay Porn, Pt. 1

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

Adam and Drew open the show this week discussing the way that Adam wants to make sure that he shares experiences with his children. Later they take listener phone calls on having an autistic parent, recovering from childhood sexual abuse and porn addiction.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Well, here we are for another throwback up. So this is just number 52. So it was new in sort of the course of this podcast. And we opened the show discussing the way Adam wants to make sure that he shares experiences with his children. And then we take some phone calls. It is a throwback to 2013. Enjoy. Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky.

You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get on no choice, better get on mandate, get it on. That's Dr. Drew. I'm, uh, I go by Ace. I had my kids in last episode. I, we didn't fully get into it, but I like the shared experience part. I love the bringing them.

I've said a million times when we did our event for the Children's Hospital. in Malibu and brought out John Popper and all the cool bands and all the cool people and all the lunch trucks and everything my wife's like well the kids need to we need to get a babysitter it's not a kid's event it's booze it's bands it's adults I said oh I want them I want them there and she said well that's going to be a hassle and I said it may be a hassle but I want them to experience this I want them to see what what mommy does what daddy does you know this is mommy planning this and putting this together these are daddy's relationships relationships, you know, calling in favor.

This is raising money for a charity. I want them to see that. I want them to experience that. Sure. I think it's the best thing they can do. They'll remember it. Seeing, yeah, like I want, I think examples, seeing your parents do the right thing, seeing your parents be kind or do philanthropic endeavors.

You know what I mean? It's sort of like, as I've said before, you're eating a donut and smoking and talking your kid about eating healthy an exercise message. Not a great message. Kids, best message is daddy gets up at 6 a.m. every morning jogs five miles. I used to remember him coming through the door all sweaty while I was eating my cereal at 7.15 every morning. You know, that's message sent, right? Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

The other thing we were talking about when your kids were in here was how you let them fall. We were talking about we got off onto Natalia and her thrill-sicking gene. but there was a piece of that where you she wanted you to create more of a thrill for her by backing away when you were catching her she jumped off the bed you backed further and further away until the point you knew she would fall she demanded it you let her fall right your wife got pissed but i'm saying that we never got to talk about this i wanted to which is that letting them fall literally and figuratively is one of the most important parenting skills there is you know how do you safely let them fall because you telling them don't jump off the curb, don't jump off the bed, whatever. Not as strong a message as when she hit the carpet. Right. And this is what I see all the time with patients with drug addiction and things like that. Let's hope when she gets to be an adult, she doesn't hit the carpet too hard.

You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying, yeah. Well, I'm mad it that way. Yes, as an adult. But a lot of parents can't do that. They're so fearful of the falling and seeing the kids uncomfortable and miserable. The flip side of it is, I can't even see them uncomfortable in their achievements in baseball.

So you have to give them all awards because they're all special. I assess the risk, which is wall-to-wall berber. Sounds like a good gay porn name. We're going to wall-to-wall berber. Now, I assess the risk. It was carpeting. It's your top or bottom. He's a middle.

Very rare in the industry to find a middle. Um, carpeting, then padding underneath the carpet, uh, second floor, raised foundation, meaning no slab. So, and no obstructions, not going to clip the dresser on the way down or anything, just nothing but carpet and padding and give and a little give. People don't realize, but, uh, that plywood's got a little more give than the slab. And, uh, uh, mixed with a little, little road rash. Like, it could be a little carpet burn on there, but I, I was okay with that.

and she did it and she landed and she cried and she ratted me out to mama but as we learned I didn't really at the time she was a little too young probably about four years old yeah to really get into the dynamic of it psychologically no right but now she talks about it years later yeah and by the way we don't have a lot of moments where like oh yeah I distinctly remember that She distinctly remembers this. We have not talked about it in the interim. It's not like we have it once a week. I go, now remember the time.

So that conversation we had with her on that last show, that was the first time you guys had talked about it years. Oh, that's interesting. Because she talked about it like you guys had shared this and had a few laughs about it. Now, that's the thing that's interesting is we spoke about it for the first time on our last show as if we talked about it quite a few times anecdotally. Yes. Like, this is, hey, this is our little message. and no, no, never came up, never spoke about it. So it was burned into her psyche, and I'm sure it will remain there forever.

With her hatred for you. My dad, yeah. Stop talking, Daddy. And she, if she was recounting that story as a teen or an adult to a group of mothers, they would have a horrified look on their face. You know, she would go. It's really the kind of thing where you can say, my daddy was one of those guys.

There's two spins. You go, my daddy was one of those pull yourself up by your own bootstraps guys. He wanted me to have grit. He wanted me to have grit. And he was the kind of guy who believed he could teach you a lesson out in the field faster than you could learn it from a textbook. And one day, I'll never forget. I was jumping off the bed.

I was three or four. I kept telling him to move back. He kept saying you weren't going to me. And you know what? My daddy. And I know it must have heard him. He let me fall, but he knew that that would teach me a valuable lesson about my, you know, that in life, there are falls and that you're not invincible and blah, blah, blah, and you can do it that way. Or she could be going, he smelled of beer and mangrove, and he, and I told him to step back, because I was just a little kid.

What did I know? I thought I could levitate. That asshole, let me do it. And he just gladly, and then he just took a draw of his cigarette and watched me. tumble onto the carpet I could have easily got a compound fracture my femur. And listen to how you would torture me by pretending not to be able to catch me

thinking the yelling for the dog when I'd be mid-air. Right. And people would be horrified. People, I have told a few people that story. A couple of parents, a couple of moms, a couple of dads even. And they looked at me like,

you did what? And I said, I stepped back and I kept stepping back. And I told, her, you know, on a number of occasions, if I step back one more step, I'm not going to be able to catch you when you jump and she said, move it back. And so I, old man, she said. So I did. And she ate carpet.

And they looked at me like, uh, so why? I mean, what did you, A, why did you do that and B? You're kind of a bad parent. That's where we're at. I agree the part, and the same thing. You don't want your kid to experience physical pain. You don't want your kid to experience emotional pain and the outcome, the trophies. We're all number one.

Same thing I deal with drug addiction when the kid's developing real trouble. And I say, call cops, get him arrested. And do not bail them out. What? I could never do that. Right. Okay, well, the kid's going to die then. Right.

Oh, no. No, no, I wouldn't let that happen. Right. That's not how it works. Right. You're not going to let that happen. Right. Yeah.

No, I agree. And I drove over here today in an Aston Martin Vanquish, which is $275,000 work of art, which was given to me for like four days. There's a picture of Sonny. You can go to the website. Oh, my God, there is with the car. What's our website call? Adam and Dr. Drew Show.com. You go there, you can take a look at Sonny leaning against the Vanquish like he owns it.

And I realized both the kids were coming and sunny I had in the back because there's not much of a back seat, but there's enough that if you take the seat in front of it, the passenger side and push it all the way forward, you can kind of get in there. Yeah. But if you take the driver's side and push it all the way back, which is where I need it at 6-2, there's no room. There's no room. So I put Natalia in the front seat, not in a car seat, just in the front seat with the seat belt. And she was going ballistic. She'd never ridden in a front seat before. And it was funny.

Sonny, who got in the car first, was in the backseat. And he was like, why's Natalia get to ride in the front seat? And Natalia was great. She was like, because I got in the car second. There's no room behind Daddy. And then the whole time over to the shop, she's like, oh, the view's amazing. This is glorious. This is spectacular.

And Sonny's like, what? What's going on? He's like, oh, my God. This is better than imagine. She'd never stop talking it up. I think Sunny felt like I always feel when the pilot, and they should never do this, like when they go, those are you sitting on the left side of the plane, a picturesque view of Snake River Canyon.

That gorge is 2 million years old carved out by the Colorado River. Anyway, if you're on the left side, if you're on the right, enjoy the skymall. Or your own reflection as the tears roll down your cheeks, looking out the window, it's clouds. You know what I mean? Like, well, don't do that if you're on the left. You essentially take more than half the plane because then they're the people that aren't against a window. You are taking, you are taking nine-tenths of the airplane and going, fuck you. Sorry, you're not going to see shit.

And cause them to hate the people in the window seats on that side. Or and or sort of lean over the guy's train and try to take a look. Anyway, funny, flying used to be such a novelty that there'd be a lot of like, look over the right side. you'll see the roof of an industrial building. Cleveland, we're flying over Cleveland. It's such a novelty. We're going over now. It's not much lookout.

But there was Natalia in the front seat, and she had a rush on because she'd never been in the front seat. And then I had to do the sort of thing where it's like, uh-oh, child, no child seat, you know, and then I did fucking cars, got a million, you know, crumple zones and blah, blah, and by the way, Natalia's a big girl. she's over 50 pounds at this point and I know we have this regulation that is like but I've done the math it's like you know you got to be 5-4 and 65 pounds or something Adam there's no difference between a 75 Impala and a 2013 vanquish I know I was doing

how dare you doing the safety math and all the miles we traveled and also done the math though they do a thing where it's like you have to be over you know 5-2 or 4-9 or whatever and you have to be over sick and then I realize why come Danny DeVito doesn't have to travel in a child seat right just because he was born at a certain point like yeah Brad Williams why doesn't he have to wear he's not that's I it's I you got to look up online and see what that size is and I think that fucking size just keeps getting bigger and bigger bigger but my thing is is usually kids backseat I put in the backseat my car put seat belt on it's fucking fine 10 times safer we ever were oh

Right. So kids, I like, here's what I like. Daddy gets a vanquish for four days. Those kids are getting in it. They're going around the block. They're having fun. They're going to have a story to tell. I bring them to the shop all the time because why? Daddy's building. I want them to see Daddy. Here's what goes on. Here's Daddy at work. Here's Daddy working. Here's Daddy building. Here's how it works. I want those messages sent. Children under the age of eight, must be secure in a car seat or booster seat.

By the way, those booster seats, you can't get the fucking seatbelt hooked up three quarters of the time. They're wider. The problem with new cars, dig, Drew. Digging. New cars, the back seats are like bucket seats. You know, they dip in. They're not just a bench, like back in the day.

And the booster seat is wider than the bucket. So it has to sit sort of a skew. You know what I mean? Yes. And it's wider than the seatbelt. It sits on top of the female end of the seat belt. You have to, like, push it aside. All right.

So you're wondering whether it's even safe enough as it is. It's just a pain in the ass. Children, anyway, if you're under the age of eight, you must be secured in a car seat or booster seat in the back seat. Children under eight who are four nine or taller may be secured in the safety belt in the back seat. Children who are eight years and over shall be properly. secure, an appropriate child passenger, restraint system, blah, blah, blah, safety belt. All right.

Four nine. How tall is Danny DeVito, especially Brad Williams? But half the women's gymnastics team, right, isn't it? Yeah. Can't operate a motor vehicle without a child seat? Can't sit in the front seat. All right. DeVito says 5-0 for DeVito.

I bet he's round and up. All right. I'd like to give him a seat for 67th birthday. That would be fun. All right, Drew, what do you want to do? We take some phone calls, because of the stories to tell. You know, Doug Stanhope visited me on my show. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How was that? It was interesting. Gary, I love you to ring in here. Give you guys' thoughts. We have a chance to talk about it. On the doctorrew.com at the website, the Dr. Drew podcast, Doug Stanhope came in with a head of steam.

Now, tell us a little about his background as it pertains to you. He does like 17 minutes. it's on me and hating on me and hating on me and hating my choices and things. I'm going to air June 26, by the way. June 26, you'll see that here that episode. And he came in and I don't know what his... Why did he come in? Well, because apparently his, as I understood it, his fans really wanted that, right?

Correct, yeah. His fans tweeted it, Drew, so I just reached out to him through his website. And he flew out here, made a special trip out here for this. I mean, I really appreciate... From Alaska. From Alaska. It's crazy. Why did it come from Alaska?

He was doing a gig up there? He was returning from a stand-up gig, but he lives like a couple miles from the border in Arizona. Oh, okay. So he's stopping through on his way home. The Alaskan border in Arizona? I don't know the map that well. Oh, okay. You don't know geography?

I don't know what part of, I don't know if it's Yuma or Phoenix. I don't know what borders Alaska, but keep going. And he had hit a steam and had a lot of sort of preloaded stuff he was doing. And I don't read any of this. I can't, you know, I get hurt really easily, so I just sort of stay away from all of it. And, but I know it was really, like, really terrible, saying terrible things. He came in, though, but he looked me in the eye, and he had a conversation. I really appreciate him coming in and, like, being willing to have an exchange about it.

And it turns out he has all sorts of issues with 12-step. He was dragged to 12-step, meaning as a child by his alcoholic mom. He's an alcoholic drug addict. So his little background. A little big resentment. How much sobriety does he have? Oh, no, no. He's a unrepentant, active, never going to change, using, and it works for him, and that's how he is.

What's he used? Mostly alcohol, I'd say. He's a pot and alcohol. Well, he used a lot of alcohol. Well, he used a lot of alcohol. But that's him. That's his whole deal. I don't think he's ever going to change, at least my his, I don't know if somebody says to him, you're going to die of liberties in a year if he'll stop.

I don't know. I don't think so. But really felt that this was all pseudoscience and who am I as a physician to be able to recommend pseudoscience. What's the pseudoscience part? The 12th step is a religious-based program, and how could something that's based in this God concept be a medical

applied medical treatment? And I tried to explain, in the difference in faith and the higher power thing, and how, to me, it had an application in terms of, it got heady. I'm not sure it's appropriate for this. Yeah. Well, but my feeling, I have things like Buddhism,

which I'm like, oh, who cares? You know what I mean? Someone's chanting. No, it helps them Good. They want world peace or they want a color TV set, who gives a fuck? Right. They're just going to chant on it. Right. And I'm that way with 12th step.

I'm an atheist. And, you know, if you want to pray, pray, you know, or whatever you want to call it. Most of it is really, there's, you can get you sober, gets you sober. It helps and it's a way of working. And I've never seen it really worked for, I would do a severe severe drug. I've never seen anything else really work for them. You know what's weird? So did you guys?

break any bread or bury any hatchets? No, I think we did. Do you agree? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, Drew gave him the chance to kind of air his grievances, and that was a little bit like half the show, and then after that it was pretty cordial. I mean... Yeah, we took calls, and we shared our differences, but I told

I, you know, he, one of the things I could see is he's a very sensitive guy, but underneath all that bravado is, like, really tender. It's not everyone. I mean, everyone with a lot of bravados. Like, it's funny. Some are asshole.

Some are just narcissistic dicks, don't give a shit. And really, their core is a million miles away somewhere. No, no, that's true. But I found, and I agree, that is true. And there's also this diversion of the guy and the girl who are, you know, you see him screaming at the person and, you know, you're not the boss of me and how dare you? And then they're sobbing in their car 10 minutes later. Yeah. That's what I like about me.

You don't do I. Oh, you do sob? You do. You're more like the end. indie in the commercial it's just a single tier the thing about Doug stano that's interesting to me or maybe not is when those guys went on to host the show that me and jimmy created i had no feelings about it just other than i did 100 episodes and now i'm moving on and history will decide which version they liked the people liked better i'm always insanely confident um like when i moved on from love

line and I think Kevin Weatherly said they wanted a 23-year-old Hispanic with a great sense of humor to take my place. I just said, well, we'll see how history does with that. But I'm, I had no thoughts. I have no thoughts about it. Like, to me, it's a weird wiring for me, I guess, or maybe it's better this way. I don't have any thoughts about Doug Stanhope taking my place or stabbing me in the back. Right.

He should have never. I don't have any thoughts about that. Right. It was a gig for him. Yeah. It was a show we created and never thought about it again. I even have weird. It's weird when you bring it up and I don't even recognize for a few beats that that's the guy or Joe Rogan or whoever.

I just never, I never think about it. Yeah. I don't know why people do. Why do people think that way? I mean, why? There's nothing in it for you. I think it's kind of a weird resentment. It's like you're going to try to show me up.

No one could fill my shoes. It's kind of a threat in a way. Well, I'm going to let them prove that point by. doing a subpar product that people will reject, but I don't need to explain it. I'd much rather just let it happen. Let it happen. I think I'm more

in that zone, too. Yeah, I'm with you. All right, so you guys... But here's the interesting about Doug. I was just thinking to myself. He's he's got a girlfriend with schizoaffective disorder, which is like sometimes she's psychotic and sometimes she's not.

He sort of celebrates the quirky. The chaos or the quirky? Like, though she's sick, and I know she's sick, and I love her, and she's probably never going to get much better. And I'm really not going to get better either, and the alcohol works for me. And it's sort of something quaint about it. You know what I mean? It's like you don't have to fix everybody, sort of the notion.

Yeah, I'm with that. No, I'm with it too. Especially if you can pay your taxes and show up on time for your gigs. And my thing is, if he wants help, I'm all here, but I don't have to fix him. I kind of see where it's going. I don't see good things that have. Maybe it works for him. Well, how much.

drinking do you think he's doing he's a lot well all right uh i mean number certainly in the evenings a lot and most days well i can't judge for this evening well he he he he i think he'll be a good supporter of mangrove he hit that tap a couple times oh he did not o'clock in the morning whatever was ten that what time was it all right well also he was dealing with you you know it's trying something to take the edge off mangria takes the edge of is that why you hit that every time we do a show you know i am i am as you as you know and as i've said many many times i have my vices that i thoroughly enjoy and maybe i like them like guys like certain things i feel more like turn of the century like i enjoy a pipe after my meal yes they would do things that were not good for them we actually have a

tweet here that Doug sent shortly after coming on the show. Oh, wow, that's so funny. If it don't make it through the airport security, it's because of Mangria. Oh, yeah, yeah, I saw that. That was funny. Was he carrying a bottle with them or something, or is he? Not being a drunk.

Yeah, it's just on board. Yeah, it'll get you there. But I really do, I really sort of, I don't, admire is not the right word. I sort of, I liked, I liked him, I liked his sort of people have a spirit. Yeah.

And some people's spirit you like and some people you don't, you can kind of separate some of their... But I particularly like that he could have a relationship, a relationship when somebody's not well and he's not well, and it's like, eh, and we make it through. But is there something to this? I do feel like they're guys that like chaos. They like friction. This wasn't that, though. No, no, I don't mean... Okay.

I'm saying there's certain people that don't know they're alive unless they're me. mixing it up. Yes. And there's something going on. Yes. And there's a kind of a fuck that guy. And he said, what about me? But see, to me, that's a kind of a scarier thing.

That's somebody's heading for trouble. I don't know. Because I, well, let's put it. I'll put it to you this way. There are plenty of people that have the Lexus Nexus thing where anytime their name pops up, it comes up. You know, you say, this is how Jimmy is at Man Show, Adam Carolla, Jimmy Kimmel, something like that. Now, part of it is. first job. You know, it's material, stuff that works, stuff that he uses. And maybe I should

have it for me that says Adam Carolla, Man Show, Loveline, Jimmy Kimmel. You know, when shit comes up with people I know, projects I've worked on, what have you, someone writes a blog or an article or something for good or for bad, I see it. But I don't want to see it. By the way, did you see in New York Times article I have, where you refer to repeatedly as Mr. Corolla? Every time you Mr. Corolla said. It's like, whoa, did Chris and Gary get a hold of her or tell her he prefers to be referred to as Mr. Corolla? It is a fine, fine example where people said, people tweet me, hey, did you see the New York Times thing with Dr. Drew? And then a couple things.

There was something online and then maybe there was something in the paper or was just online. It was the same article, same article. No, it was a big paper. On the paper and online. and people tweeted me, and people said, hey, you said this about Drew, and people said, hey, you were talking shit about Drew or whatever it was, some good or some bad or some just, hey, did you see this? And I never looked at it.

Well, I want to thank you for that. I didn't have to do with one of Paul Newman's cars. Like, I'm just not, I'm not interested. I literally, and now you can tell me, Drew. I sit around most days thinking about like tire sizes and rims and how to get the combination of the rims and the tires and the offsets and how am I going to run those 18s and what how much offsets are there being brake clearance and caliber caliper clearance and stuff like that. And when someone tweets me five tweets it says there's a thing with Dr. Drew in the New York Times and you're quoted in it a bunch of times check it out. I don't check it out. Yeah.

And there's nothing in it for me. Yeah. If it's good, it's good. If it's bad, it's bad. I'm not interested. I don't. I get it. I should be.

But why am I not? You and I've been that way all the way along. We just sort of don't read our own stuff. Well, not only that, I just try to avoid everything and then people offer it up to me. Well, I think, A, we've got other things on our mind. And B, we sort of know things kind of come up and then they go away. You know what I mean? They're just, today, today, tomorrow, not even here.

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