The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #554: Anna Vocino & Vinnie Tortorich

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

April 6, 2017 - Adam and Drew open the show discussing Adam’s goal to strive for an NSNG diet and the obstacles he faces in his own home that make that harder than it should be. They also take some phone calls from listeners before welcoming in our guests Vinnie Tortorich & Anna Vocino. They discuss Anna’s cookbook ‘Eat Happy’ and the idea of the NSNG lifestyle before Vinnie starts asking questions about Lynette’s progress since they last met.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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by all that. We take some phone calls before we bring our guests in. And we discuss Anna's cookbook, Eat Happy, which is one of my wife's favorites, actually. And then the idea of getting to an NSNG lifestyle. And then Vinnie actually takes questions about Lynette's progress since they had last met. Enjoy. Throwback episode number 554, Anavocino and Vinny Tortorich. Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky.

You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get on a trip. We're going to get it on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend. We've got some information to lay down on you today. I must tell you, Drew.

Vinny Tortorich and Anna Vachino is going to be here. What? Vinny does what Vinnie does. Anna, she's written a cookbook. Yeah, she's been on my podcast, other podcast number of times. This book, This Eat Happy, Gluton-Free, grain-free, low-carb recipes for a joyful life as her a cookbook. We practically live off that thing now. Chisies these are great recipes. Have her to tell you about this.

cauliflower pizza. It's unbelievable. Yeah. We got the book, too. It's got to get Olga coached up on, the problem is, is there are four people in my house who have no discernible interest in this. Well, we had, well, no, but hang on. We had that, we all heard this story of Lynette and Olga spending four hours of Vinny. We've got to find out what happened. Remember? No, that was, well, yeah. No, the, the, the, the, the, the, The problem is nobody needs it but me. Oh, I see.

They think it's a good idea in theory. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. But not really. I mean, not everyone wants carbs. Got it. Got it.

I want carbs, too. What's in your refrigerator now? Fettuccini. Alfredo. And pizza. And pizza. Oh, wait a minute. There was a smaller container just has a roll and butter in it.

So, yes. I am interested in this, but I have to be interested in it. Lynette and nobody else. No, everyone is as interested as their physique would demand, and that's not much. But I am into this event. And actually, Lynette's trying to eat healthier and exercise and all that kind of stuff. And so she met with Vinny as well. But I would love for this cookbook to get fired up over at the Corolla House.

Nice. No, not nice. I think that would be nice. It would be nice. That's right. It would, it could be nice. Yeah. All right.

Let's go to call. I think Gina Grad is doing a lot of cooking from this. Oh, yeah. She got my girlfriend on it. My girlfriend cooks out of it. Gina cooks out of it. Yeah, yeah. It's great.

Yeah. All right. Let's get some calls for those guys get in here. It's awesome. Line four. Ken. Phoenix. What?

What line? Ken. Ken. What line? Four. Hey, Ken, 51 from Phoenix. Hey, afternoon, Adam. What's going on?

Congratulations on your race. That was a big goddamn race. It was big. Wait, where can they see it? Because the video is unbelievable. I don't know. There's a little bits. Carcast YouTube channel is probably going to be your best bet.

Yeah, there's a little, we can post, we could probably post little bits and pieces or one lap or something from my podcast. I think by the time you listen. listen to this one. If you go to the Carcast YouTube channel, there's going to be a lot of material up there. That is a good point. All right. Thank you, Ken. Go ahead. Okay. Well, I'm just disappointed. I unpacked a battery, and I ordered the wrong battery for a bike, so now I've got to figure that out. Here's the thing. You guys had, we took a caller a couple days ago, and he was a guy from Utah, his ex, moved to Arizona, took the kids, and he was like, oh, well, got to move on. And you guys were like dumbfounded. We're dumbfounded.

of how casually was about it. Just like, hey, what are you going to do? Anyway, what's for lunch? And, like, wait a minute, you have, it was like a 12-year-old, a 4-year-old or something. We were like, what? And he's like, no. Go ahead.

I know what you're thinking, and most people think it. What that guy went through, though, is he had been through the mill. He had been to the courts. He had been, and he had raised these kids at babies. So he had done the time, and they still let the woman move out of state and everything. And what you have to end up doing,

finally, is reconciling that the system is going to allow her to move wherever she wants, and there's going to be one primary caregiver. Hey, Ken? And then he has to stay in the kid's life. I don't know if you've been through something like this, but your emotional, the affect with which you're speaking about this is entirely different than that guy, even just the intensity with which you're trying to convince, you know, show us this fact. Well, I did what you guys suggested for 15 years, and it backfire.

Which was what? Which was what you said. Hey, I'd go to the court, ask for assistance, be in their kids' life, fight with custody, and all this stuff. I didn't even fight for custody. I just said, I'm going to be in their lives. Right. And that is a big. Well, we were mostly concerned that.

Hold on. Why did that backfire? Well, hang a second. We were mostly concerned with him being in the vicinity of the kids, that they have their father nearby. That was our main thing. But go ahead. If the mother has the cahones up and leave them, she will do it again. And you'll spend your whole 20 years following this woman who doesn't want you around

and will actively put orders of protection, put blocks the wall. In other words, what he has to establish is you're the mom, you're good, no one's bad-mouthing you. You can raise the kids. But let me see them three months. Let me be in their lives. If you keep that going, then it works. But if you have a constant battle of, I'm taking you to court, you're in court three times a year, you're in court for child support or custody or whatever.

The system is crazy. It is crazy. It is crazy. I did a documentary about it called Divorce Corp. I would never recommend anybody do it that way. That's not what I was talking about at all. And if it came across that way, I certainly did not intend that. What I wanted to share with you is I was Chuck.

I knew exactly where you were, and I knew where he was. And I knew exactly that he can't abandon and say, hey, call me, send me a postcard. But what he was doing is letting her chill get established, and then he'll go back, and he'll go, okay, I'll be in the summers. And that's what you have to be. Otherwise, what happens is the woman will turn your kids against you. And that's what happened in my case. I get it.

And we'll see what happens, but he, it's crazy. Speaking with you and speaking to him is like two entirely. different experiences. He didn't care. If I remember this call, he literally, that's what bothered us. He did not care. You care. You were talking about how to... Well, he, but which I'm trying to stick up for him a little bit,

so you see his sight, when you're raising a baby and you're a man and your wife, or your mother is doing whatever she wants, and then she takes the kids at six and eight or whatever it was, and he did all the diapering and the thing, and you go, well, yeah,

the kid doesn't know you, but you were there doing the important stuff. And what it was is the courts basically say... All right, hold on a second. Ken's grafting too much of his own shit. Yeah, yeah.

It's all his stuff. The other guy was catch his catch can and laissez-faire about his kids. Emotionally, he did not... When he was asked repeatedly about his casualness

regarding his own kids... He was confused about that. He did not say, I've been to the ringer, I've been bankrupt by, The courts and my attorney. He didn't even say it had anything to do with the court or tried anything or even been there really actually raising the kids. It was not clear. He sort of said, hey, man, I was there, man.

Yeah, you were there, but. No, he said he'd raise them. Yeah. When they, you know, and they were done, you know, saw them when they were four last. Now he's done. Yeah, he's done. No, he didn't say, now I'm done. But he certainly did not go, hey, pardon my affact, but I've been through the mill.

Yeah. with the divorce and the attorneys and the courts and the the uh the uh the the restraining orders he didn't say anything he just said they moved then and hear a word of that this is ken you're projecting ken i'm assuming you went through this yes he did and i don't wish that upon anybody this is not what we're getting out of this other guy he did not bring up courts or lawyers or any or any or finances or anything he literally said i raised the two shoes four and I'm done. So anyway, what are we going to do next?

Basically. But hang on. I'm glad Ken brought this up because this is actually important material. That does not diminish the importance of what Ken brought up. Thank you. A little bit. Jamie, 30, Illinois. Yeah.

What's going on? What's up, guys? Big man. Thanks, man. I had a suggestion for Dr. Drew with the cold showers. I know you guys have been on those lately. and he seems to think that he takes a wimpy way out a little bit. Wimpy compared to Adam who's getting into the Arctic tundra.

Yeah, it's starting to warm up outside, though. Although there's a lot of steam coming out of my mouth this morning. I don't claim to be on Adam's level either. But what I do is I get right in the shower and then turn the water on so that you're forced to stay in there while you're waiting for it to warm up. And I think it kind of takes away the control. control over, you know, instead of just being in there with it warm, turn to cold, and when you give up, you turn it back to warm.

Yeah, but Jamie, I give up after many minutes. It's not like I run out, and I jump away from the water as it turns cold. I wait until my head's frozen, until I can't feel my head. And then I figure, and by the other, the interesting thing is you tell me if this is what happens also, I was thinking about this morning, really, you couldn't get used to just about anything, because now I literally felt my back going numb. that, yeah, sorry, I mean, this is what I do every morning. I've been dunking myself in the pool every day, and I am utterly used to it.

Yeah, it does not bother you that much. It's interesting. I have literally outside the pool this morning sort of watching steam come out of my mouth as I was just floating in the pool. It was really striking how you got, because my body does not like adjusting the temperatures. I'm aware of that, but now it's like getting used to it, getting good at it. Yep. Weird. All right.

Let's get Vinny and Annie over there, or Anna, sorry, Vinny, Annie, turn everyone to me, ready to come in. Let me just plow through. Oh, no one could have foreseen this. I blame Kaelin for some reason. All right. I'll just mow through this call. Wait, hold on. Before you, let's do it a little Simply Save first.

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Now, Dr. Dush, I was going to mow these calls down. You could have done this stupid spot any time. Now we've got our guests sitting here. You're going to make them sit here or do these calls. Okay. I just want to mow through all right thank you thanks a big man okay Pat 32

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because we all spent so much time in traffic is get a holder for your iPhone so you can actually talk while you're driving gets it done. Because you're going to spend a lot of time. I've written an entire book, driving home from Catch a Contractor. John, 25 Norwalk? Yeah, so my dad used to, I mean, he is an alcoholic, used to drink a lot when we're kids. Doesn't anymore, or didn't anymore, but over the last couple years, he started drinking pretty heavily.

He's on a bunch of painkillers as well, but it's getting pretty out of hand. And now that I'm an adult, I'm wondering, what's the best way to try and convince this guy to get sober again? He was never part of a 12-step program or anything like that. like that either. He's sort of a dry drink. Right. Maybe start with his doctor. Let him know what's going on and that you want him referred for treatment. I mean, just start with that. And if they don't do it, then you can get a referral for an intervention. Check out Ed Stority and San Pedro. He's a very good interventionist.

You're in Norwalk. And Michelle, 45 Long Beach. Hi, you guys. I'm such a big fan of both of you. I've been listening to you since your K-Rock days. Thank you. And I love Lynette. She's the best. So here's my question. My son is 12 years old, and he has a big problem with focus.

I took him out of a private school he was going to through sixth grade this year and put him in public school because our public schools are really good, thinking that the change might help him a bit. and he still has the same issues. All of his teachers have called me, and I took him to the doctor, and the doctor says, yeah, you know, we think he, you know, he thought that he definitely had ADD, and, you know, I called me an appointment to get him tested. Good. I'm just really concerned about putting him on medication.

Like, I don't know, are we, he's 12 years old, so I know that, Focus is an issue for a lot of 12-year-old boys because I've talked to a ton of parents. How's his focus? Hey, let me ask you this. Is he focused when there's something he likes? Yes. All right. Well, then it's not a focus issue.

I mean, well, I would argue. Let's figure out what we can do with our two guests here because I want to talk about how nutrition and physical fitness work. If he is tested for ADD and he meets neuropsychiatric criteria and formal testing for ADD, He has ADD. He doesn't have just a problem focusing. He doesn't have whatever. He has a medically diagnosed condition, objectively proven through testing. Well, but that's been a fairly new invention.

No, it isn't. The problem these days is people go to the pediatrician, go, yeah, it looks like it's got. I better put him on something. That's what I'm concerned. But if you have formal testing and they meet criteria, that is a totally different thing. That is a measurable problem. So I would follow professional advice at that point, but ladies gentlemen, hey Vinnie.

Drew. And Anna are here. Hi. The book, eat happy, gluten-free, grain-free, low-carb recipes for a joyful life. We're all eating out of that book. Gary and his girlfriend. Yeah. And the ones I brought for Lynette apparently were stolen, so I brought more for Lynette.

Conveniently. The dog ate them. The goldfish ate them. Is there a menu for Zankoo chicken in there? Yeah, it's only Zanku chicken. It's the cauliflower pizza. It's all garlic sauce. I want everybody to focus on.

Yeah, that is good. I want a casserole. I'm dying for a casserole. Well, guess what? Mama's got you right here. Really? Yes. It's a spiralized.

Would you like the zucchini sausage bake? I think you would. I would. I should have brought one of those. Yeah, we were looking at me and my nanny were looking through that the other day. And I told her casserole. She's not from a place that has casseroles. I said, I'm from, we're winners here in the United States.

We have casseroes. We have stew and casseroles. That's why we win. Yeah. And if you want to eat in NSNG and you want to have a casserole, you got to make certain changes. Yeah. Well, how much, first off, I feel like this stuff has been around, but it's also brand new. I feel like it's a crazy renaissance.

Like everyone's just catching on to this right now. Is that feel right or is it just me? Well, no, it's everyone. When I started doing all this, you know, when, Dean Lorry plucked me and said, you have to put this out there. I originally said no, because I didn't want the uphill battle. Why? I have my clients.

I can just do this. I'm making a comfortable living. I don't want to be out there. And now, you know, I just happened to be in the right place at the right time and started yapping about it. And enough people came along and said, well, yeah, he's right. Because right at the same time, you know, everyone else started figuring out, well, 50 years of eating grains hasn't done a whole lot for us, except all those heart-healthy

grains has raised, you know, arteries and, you know, heart attacks and everything else. So that didn't work, so we had it wrong. So it all kind of came together at the same time. I just happened to be... Pasta was the big thing. I remember Pasta. I remember the huge thing. I could tell you, when pasta got started, it was a guy named Dr. Robert House, Haas,

who put a book out called Eat to Win. and it was all about just eat all the pasta you want. It doesn't have fat in it. You can't get fat if you don't. And even back in 1985 or 86 when that came out, I can't remember exactly when I went, I went, this is completely backwards. Pasta, I grew up in an Italian household. Pasta was what you had if you were poor, if you couldn't afford meat. Just for calories.

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misinformation flying around. I still get that now. In fact, I got yelled at, I'm guessing, by it's got to be someone of a vegan nature, was saying that a baked potato had more protein than a steak. Oh, my God. It's still out there. Yeah, it never goes away. And, you know, to what you said, Adam, you may remember this. I would actually time my big pasta feed before a football game because if it came too late,

because once you eat pasta, you get tired. You want to go to sleep. So I would get out of school, and I told my mom, have that plate ready, because I need to eat it, and I need to get a nap in before the game. Because if I had it too late, I was sleeping in the game. You literally have to wake up from it. So, Adam, much the way I think about you when I take the cold shower in the morning, I think about Vinny every day for two reasons also.

One, my goddamn shoulders drive me insane. And I keep thinking, when am I going to be like Vinny? When am I get this thing fixed? Get the surgery. I got your guy, brother. I got your guy. How does it to recover? I'm on a two-year recovery right now.

But, you weren't. But truth is a pus. Drew, if you put the little piece of plastic in, six months. But guess what? Life is over with. What you mean? You can't lift? Lifting is done.

Because I would ask these guys, I went to I'm married, I went to Toboni, I went to all the guys, and they would go, you know, as you know, there's not enough bone in that glenolite faucet and a cavity. And they would say, look, we have to grind it away. We'll put the plastic in. And I would say, okay, let's talk shop. Can I do push-ups? And they were, well, we wouldn't recommend it.

Yeah, okay. Can I ride a bike? Well, you can ride a bike? Can I ride 100? No, we went 100 miles. No way. Finally back down to, anyway. Yeah.

That and then men my age must run. And I keep trying to get that on my schedule, too. I'm doing it now. I'm doing it right now, but it falls out very easily. By the way, speaking of fitness, Lynette Carolla is now on a fitness jank. Does she actually show up to the gym? Because of the four hours she spent with you? Yeah, we spent four hours together.

I want to know what happened. That'll do it. Yeah. The refrigerator, though. The refrigerator still looks exactly the same. She had to throw away the little fitness bars, right? Are they gone? No, no, no, no, no.

No, wait, Adam, I told her, I said, don't... You told her what? I said, don't wait until you finish them. Throw them away. I said, Lynette, whatever they cost you, if they're 20 bucks, if I told you 20 bucks, is going to make you better as a person. Make her better, it's going to make her husband saner. she still has the bars

of course she has the bars she likes the bars come on because they're like candy bars they're like candy bars they're snickers she's having sneakers no no there was a horrible there was this

there was this horrible perfect storm and the horrible perfect storm was I when I hooked up with Vinny about a year ago plus I said look here's what we got going on over at the house.

My wife eats the breakfast bars, you know, the carnation, whatever, with the nougat and the taffy or whatever in there. And I just said, those can't be good. No. And she's putting the vanilla flavor, you know, syrup in the coffee. And I said, I think those are, we need to, I think we should do something. So, but here's where the perfect storm came in. Um, her niece, Megan, who's a fitness fanatic and who works in the MMA dojo and everything else showed up to come to town right about the time we were saying, we got to get rid of the bars.

Right. So she, as the fitness fanatic, said, oh, have you tried the perfect bar? The quest or something. I think it's called, right? And I said, uh, well, no. No, I said, Vinny said no breakfast bars. And she said, well, you know, she's 24 and a half, so she knows everything. Right.

She said, she said, oh, no, they make this perfect bar, and it's refrigerated. You got to refrigerate it. Well, it's called perfect, so it must be. I know. We're sure the perfect storm shows up. The perfect storm comes in, and as I go, well, Vinny said no bars, but Lynette's saying, hold on, I'm listening. Go ahead.

So it turns out she likes these bars Of course It's dessert I'm going to look at what's in it Right well Gary will find it I think And so now They're refrigerated They're super expensive

And I have blocks of them in my refrigerator So that's But Adam But I pay for it so it makes it all unaware We spent two hours and then we went to In the coffee shop Then we went to the gym for two hours and then a few days later

I was doing a cross-country drive and Lynette wrote to... Wait, show me a picture of the outside of the box just to make sure I know what it is. The 300-call- Yes, those are them. It looks like a nutter butter.

I want to go back to that. Is that it, Adam? It doesn't look quite like that. That looks different than that, but yes, yes, that's it. Okay, now, Gary, go back to the ingredients. wasn't okay there's nothing i can do honey peanut butter honey is a second yeah non-fat milk powder which is basically sugar that's another term for sugar so it's

peanut butter which dried hold egg powder i mean organic right well also the total carb count is pretty hard-seed oil flex seed oil is a heart attack in a bar i i eat an egg for breakfast phiddy i eat an egg i don't eat any of this stuff i try to tell people not to do it. Yeah, if honey is a second ingredient, that's about it. Yeah, the second thing in, the second ingredient in is sugar. But we sat there and gazed into each other's eyes and we talked about being Italian in this country.

And we did all that. And then we went to the gym. Right. Drew, your way down the list. Number two is honey. Yeah, yeah. All right. So what would you say this bar is on a one to ten if the carnation, you know, BS made from

made from Nabisco 1 is a 10 in the bad department what does your liver and body see this at? Or does anything get below a 9? It's literally like a 9. It's really that close to the same thing. It's not food.

Anna and I go through this on the podcast we've been doing for five years. You must have a separate, or no, sorry, you must have a fourth or fifth discussion because I can't get into it. She called me a cut. Oh, I'm working out. I forgot about

this exercise. How do I do it? Lynette, I wrote it out for you. I thought she went home. I just thought it was done. No way. She decided she liked me. I mean, she was flipping me off at the Christmas party. Now she was liking me. Olga was sort of into it.

But Olga has to fight the City Hall. Oh, God. Of the kids and Lizette. Right? Am I right of this? I don't, I don't even, I don't even want to comment anymore. I don't know. Look, whatever everyone's an adult, they can choose to live

how they like to live. Your wife likes me, right? I mean, somebody's wife likes me around here. No, she's into your stuff. Lettet loves you. Anna Vocino's book. She's got to get, does she have the book yet?

Does she have Eat Happy? Just 80 cookbooks. No, the dog ate it. Yeah, the dog ate it. Eat Happy. Did she have this? She doesn't, she's not going to use the book. She's going to have it.

I'm going to have a talk. Olga is supposed to use. Olga to women to woman. Olga, well, yes, if you can coach up Olga. Olga on casseroles, that would be a major thing for me. Oh, she's way in. Yeah. Way in.

That cauliflower pizza is unbelievable. We use the spiralizer all the time with your stuff. Yeah. Oh, my God, that chicken. I'm eating that chicken all week. The almond paste almond. How good is that? So, Vin, just to put a cap on.

Lynette loves you. And I love her. As a person. She likes sweet for breakfast. She likes sweet for breakfast. She loves a breakfast bar And she never gets fat So those are the three

Constance here Loves you Loves peanut butter breakfast bar Never gets fat So who's gonna win The Path of Least Resitions is gonna win that battle I'm the loser Well I pay for the bars

So I think I'm the loser in this equation But you weren't part of the three things I was Okay well let's add me Let's add my wallet In this fourth equation So you are a loser feel like we both tied for last.

But you did come in third. I just saw Chris Laxamatta showed... Is that great video? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I love that track, by the way. Yeah, that was... I showed Vinny because I'm driving a Corvette,

and Vinny's a Corvette man, and I've never even driven a Corvette before. Well, that's a pretty fancy one to start with. Top of the food chain in the Trans Am Department. What kind of horsepower that thing now? 8.50. Oh, my God. And it's right there.

So, Jimmy, did you ever see, it was free radio? What was it called, Anna? Yeah, free radio. Did you ever see that MVH1 show Free Radio? I don't think so. Anna was in that. It was when I first got to know her. I was actually a guest on that show.

And it was about a kid that was essentially, what was his actual job before he became a radio? He was like the intern, the Moronic intern who got thrown on the air. And they gave him a morning show. Oh, yes. It sounds familiar. And I will tell you, it was a very accurate rendition of what you're doing a documentary about now, of how Keron got going.

There it is. look Anna how did uh all right true I don't know why why you sort of drift off under because I know you're it seems like you're trying to wrap up no I'm not trying to wrap up all right good that's why I want to ask Anna Ann about her book okay are these recipes that you made yourself or that you got from others and then how do you vet them well I've always been cooking but it wasn't I was food blogging because I was diagnosed with celiac. Am I not?

Oh, you're on. You're good. No, I want to see the book. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, point out the book. He does a lot of stuff doing. It's just some of the worst. It's horrible, right?

You need to get better hand signals. Starts off by doing a commercial one now. How long you've been in this game, Drew? So anyway, I was food blogging. How long do you get out? I was food blogging for years, but then when I started the podcast with Vinny five years ago, he said, do no sugars, no grains. And I was like, well, that makes sense.

Oh, yeah, that's a good one. Casingia casserole. More great, more great pod from Drew. Look at this picture. Look at this thing that no one can see. Yes, thank you. No more, Drew, please. So I made, I invented all of these recipes, or I've adapted them over the years.

Like the chicken teakam masala and the turkey chili I've been making since for two decades, I just adapted them to be NSNG. Uh-huh. You know what I mean? I'm dying to try all this stuff. The, Vinnie, let me ask you about a cheat. Okay. There's a barbecue joint near my place called the Ziques. And boy, do I get a craving for those, for those ribs.

I'll do the ribs. I'll do the ribs. I'll do the sausage sampler. And I'll do the deviled eggs. And I'll do like a vegetable, like, you know, like I'll do like a spinach or something like that. but I'm not, I know the sauce is a no-no. Obviously, the ribs, you know, smoked and they got stuff on them, but they're not dripping with anything.

Yeah, I tried Zeeks for the first time at your Christmas party, and I was like, where did this come from? Gary can tell you, I was like, where did this come from? How do I get this? Because that stuff is good without the sauce. Right. And you can have that. And that's good barbecue, by the way, if it's good without the sauce.

If you have to ditch it in sauce, it is amazing. Everything, everything they make is amazing. So that's not really cheating. Well, it's cheating and that it tastes, I feel like it's a treat. It tastes good, you know? Right. But can I tell you something? When you get into this book, and I'm not trying to turn it back to Anna's book, which I am, but literally when I started working with her, I had no idea.

She's a voiceover professional. That's all she does. And I needed someone who could do that. When she started cooking for me, I was like, where did you learn how to do this? And you will be shocked. Everyone thinks you need to have flour and all that crap and your food, you know. No, trust me, you're going to find recipes in here that will equal what you're getting at Zeeks. And I'm not kidding.

I'm not asking a few for them. I would like some ribs now, though. I know. I've gotten a mood for ribs. And I've just, I've been dying for a casserole for a year. The sausage zucchini bake or the cassidia casserole are going to wet your whistle. How do you do the cassidia casserole? I don't even know why I called it, except for I used to make cassidias for my daughter and my husband.

And then I wanted to turn it into NS&G, so I just took away the flour and put it in a thing. You make homemade taco seasoning. By the way, the taco seasoning at the stores is full of junk. Right. So you just make it at home. It's in the recipes in there, too. And put whatever you want in there, vegetables, meat, homemade taco seasoning, cheese, sour cream. From your mouth to God's ears.

That's right. If you got, if you really want to turn it around, get this book, eat happy, and get Vinnie's book as well. Fitness Confidential, because I listened to it on cassette, or cassette audio. It's very motivational. In this book, all I know is Gina Grad has just been coming in here with a new dish every moment. And, you know, when she started here, she was 30 pounds heavier. She was eating from the vending machine. She was just clearly not happy.

And forget about the weight. I see pictures of her tweet all the time. It's a beautiful sunset. I'm at the beach. You can tell she's just so much happier. She is. So much happier. And it's so important for everybody.

So do it and then do what you always do. Shoot Vinny the tweet. Shoot me the tweet. Tell me about the 100 pounds you lost in nine months or whatever it is. Tell me about jumping in the freezing cold pool in the morning. The podcast, Fitness Confidential, that's Vinny's podcast. and Anna is, now Anna wasn't co-hosting when I did the show, I don't believe. No, she's every Monday, you are on the Friday show.

I do five shows a week. Right. And you can get the book, click through Adamcarola.com and show some love, man. Eat healthy. Really good stuff. And I know it because, like I said, Gina keeps bringing stuff in for everyone, and everyone's getting into it around here. All right. Are we missing anything, Anna and Vinny?

Everything is perfect I think we're good It's all perfect Good You can listen to me and Dennis Prager If you want to listen To know safe spaces

That's available iTunes, Amazon Adamcroll.com Go to amcrowl.com For anything you need Find out about the Spike Show Or being in the audience Wherever you like

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I do there including the Dr. Drew podcast coming up You guys don't know that yet And also you were on Let's see you're on this life In this life, yeah.

The big confusion. You guys do that? Just stop a little bit. We'll get to that. Go, doctor.com, please. So, until next time, this is Adam from Vinny and Anna, and Dr. Drew, saying, mahalo. This October, fear is free on Pluto TV, with horror movie collections from paranormal activity, the ring. You will die in seven days.

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