The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #560: Tim Tebowization

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April 17, 2017 - Adam and Dr. Drew open the show discussing the recent segment centered around Drew’s house on Adam’s Spike show ‘Adam Carolla & Friends Build Stuff Live’. They then turn to the phones and speak to a caller who is wondering about the practice that Vice President Mike Pence employs to keep up boundaries. They also speak to a caller worried about the level of his pulse and another with a question about Drew’s circle of friends.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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please contact Connix Ontario at 1866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Time for throwback episode 560 from 2017, April. We talk about a recent segment centered around my house on Adam Krola's show, the Kroll and Friends Build Stuff Live. Then we go to the phone to speak to a caller who's wondering about the practice that Vice President Mike Pence uses to keep up boundaries. In retrospect, that's looking even better and better.

We also speak to a caller, worried about the level of his pulse and another with a question about my circle of friends. We call this Tim Tebowization. It is episode 560 from April 2017. Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get on.

A judge. Begerman to get on. Thanks for tuning into the show. Thanks for telling a friend. Thanks for sharing every. buddy. I'm on Spike tonight at 11 o'clock. Me and Jen Elthman. Enjoy that show. It's going to suck without me and my wife on there. Everyone loved that little vignette, Drew. Lots of laughs. They liked the toilet seat, to be fair. They liked a lot of it, I'd say, but lots of good laughs. I didn't know the part. I didn't see you guys on the part where my son plays the horror house music.

That was very funny. I don't know, you know, certain parts of comedy are sort of, you know, intellectually funny, and then some are sort of rhythmic in the way he was playing the Horhound. And it was cut right to him perfectly. Yeah, very funny. Gary's got a question about... Yeah, I just, I wasn't there. But after you taped that episode, Jenna Elfman was tweeting a lot, tagging you and... Me?

No, Adam. And Steve Martin. Is there any reason? Is that some kind... Will that be revealed when I watch tonight, or...? I don't think so. But I'm not sure. Maybe she knows Steve Martin.

I've never met Steve Martin, and I'm not smart enough to see. She wrote a lot of nice stuff, but I'm not true enough to even know that, you know, like somebody was calling me a hypocrite. Because you have said some things about her. Have you come around now? No, not about her. Don't be a douche. Sorry. No, I've never said anything about her.

I've said things about Scientology. Oh, is she Scientologist? Oh, Jesus, true. This is tough. That's really difficult. I know. But no, my point is this, I'm not good enough to figure out the hashtags and the who else is looped in on it most of the time. So I never, it, so somebody said like, what they can say about me, hashtag ass hat or something?

Astard. I don't even know it's hashtag hashtag ass tart until somebody, Gary later explained that they did the hashtag ass tart. On the show, during the show they did? No, no. I'm jumping around subjects here. it was me giving me, giving like my opinion on Trump or the guy got dragged off the airplane or whatever my opinion was. Oh, yeah.

He was not enjoying my opinion on Spicer, whatever, whatever it was. I think that's... So you're an ass tart. I am evidently. You're not commenting on ass tards. No. Well, no. I think a fucktard runs off the tongue a little better.

I like that. Yeah. I agree. So, Drew, what's going on with you? So I got a couple things. So the Spike thing went well. Yeah, that was all right. The spike thing.

Yeah, they were done. The French one wasn't very prominent. I thought some of that was very funny. I agree. You go around and film for three hours. They got to whack it down to three minutes. And at a certain point, I just run out hours in the day in terms of like going over and going through and navigating. Just give up.

Well, you know, I have this sort of thing, which is the stuff, the bit was strong. I don't know. I make my notes on it, but there's a big difference between making my notes on what they're giving me and going, give me everything you have with the French tile setter. I want to go through it all. Yeah. That's going to take a little while.

Yeah. And since this version is a good solid eight and a half or nine anyway, I don't know what I'm missing over that, but considering my schedule, we'll just move forward. If something is hurting or missing or, you know, just sort of a four and a half or five, now we've got to go back and show me everything.

Totally get it. Although what you started with the tile and the door jam goes on to this day. Oh, what happened? Remember you was too flushed with the door jam? And you didn't like the wood in the door jam? Well, you got Mrs. Pinsky spinning. Really?

Oh, yeah. She agreed wholeheartedly with you. And it still goes on. How we're going to solve those problems. Well, are you going to put casing around the door jam? I'm imagining that's what she's going to do. I don't know. I don't know enough to know.

I just stay on it. Everyone just needs to know that in carpentry, when two sort of surfaces come together, it makes for a bad seam. Unrelated surfaces or like a wood and a tile? I'll give you, it's always this. I mean, I always kind of tell people this. You put in your door jam. Yeah. and now it's time to put the casing around the door.

You never put the casing flush with the door jam. You slide it back. Heavy would be a quarter inch. Weak would be an eighth, about 316s, just like a healthy eighth or weak quarter. You slide it back. And you pointed that out during the walkthrough. Right, because if you put it flush,

it just makes for a bad scene. It'll make a bad crack. And you could calc that crack with your finger or whatever. It'll come back. It'll just peek through. versus creating a step in a detail. Yeah. You get to create more detail.

Yeah. So that's kind of the rule of thumb. So when I was seeing your jam sort of just flush up with the tile and maybe grout right up to the jam, I was picturing kind of a bad joint. Yeah. So now if you're going over it with casing, that's fine. That's fine. Right. So I'm hoping that's what they're going to do.

She's actually making huge with the tile and how they put the tile in a blah, blah, blah. Yeah. And the other thing. That's why I got out of the business. I noticed your wife and all of her ilk. Because you're not dealing with anybody else. Are you when you're doing construction? No.

Well, every once in a while, I'd say that. You have a gay man once in a while. Yeah. And the broken shell of a husband where I'd go, you know, your wife said put down the quarter round, but I think she meant base you. It's much better. You wait until Susan gets home. Like, oh, I'm going to go get it.

No, no, don't do anything. I don't tell her. I said it was so. Okay. I mean, if she finds out, I mean, let's both just sit here. Can we just hug? Can we just spoon until she comes home? I don't want to get into trouble. I don't want anything.

I don't know what you're talking about, but I don't want any trouble. Like, I just throw my hands up and come out. I'm out. Yeah. Guys just scared to death. Yeah. Yeah. And she literally knows a lot more than I do.

And I really don't know what the hell I'm doing, as you well know. Well, she has to know something and she knows a lot more. Yeah, I was trying to figure out how much time it would take me if I were going to to do the Screw Adam contest. If you needed somebody on the bottom on the show, I would easily, easily command that. Well, I'm trying to think now how fast I could do it because ultimately it's going to have to, I'm going to have to attempt to best Trace Atkins or whoever's at the top of the leaderboard and the little competition.

You have to do a little bit of a handicap. You know, the rally with me is I'm not, you know, I'm. I handle tools. For me, it's a, for me, it's a thought process that I have the advantage over everyone because I know how everything is done. And I've done everything. But it's not really about how many screws can you sink in a log in 10 minutes. It's more like, I see visually everything. I just see it in 3D in my head.

When we're talking about, whatever it is we're talking about, I see it. I've laid it out. I know exactly what everything is, which is a, well, you see it like a doctor, I guess. or a surgeon. You just see, you know, when I talk to guys and they're going like, well, you know, we could open up the kitchen wall, but it's not just about putting a header. We got to get down an underpinning and we got a down the existing footing and poor pat or whatever. I see every single thing. They're talking.

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Hey, Adam. Hey, Dr. Drew. Nice to talk to both you. Good to speak to you, man. So I wanted to get your thoughts on this. I've been listening to you guys for over 20 years. And one thing that always kind of gets me is I hear guys call in and talk about problems they've gotten into in their relationships, whether it's physical cheating or maybe even just emotional cheating.

And it all seems to stem from, or many of them seem to stem from people not having good boundaries with people that aren't their spouses, like guys who get in trouble because they, you know, married guys who are texting women who aren't their wife or making plans. to hang out with them. And I don't understand it. I just, for myself, as a married guy, I don't really have the desire to have those kinds of relationships with women who are my wife. And I guess I just found the reaction to what Mike Pence said, kind of curious, because, you know, he's preserving boundaries in his,

marriage, which should be a good thing. This was, uh, who gives a shit number 247 from two and a half weeks ago. Mike Pence says he won't have dinner with a woman. I suppose because he doesn't believe they're equal to him. You know, like, you know, just whatever CNN's yapping about today, about nothing. Just I, I remember this was a little something for like three and a half days, about two and a half weeks ago. And again, I have this ledger, which is, you know, there's six things that I worry about. And then there's the 500,000 things that all the assholes try to get me to worry about,

but I refuse to worry about it because I don't give a shit about Mike Pence. It doesn't say anything to me about what he thinks of women or how do you say? What's going to happen if he has to go into the war room with a woman? And we're in DefCon, 5. And he's forced to, he's going to leave the door open for a nuclear. blast. You know, it's like, oh, Jesus Christ, who cares? And listen, crazy media, please pick your battles. Please pick your battles. And if, by the way, if you do apologize when you get them way wrong, too, that never

happens. I don't, that never happens. But I just mean, Mike Pence seems to be a straightforward dude who has a code that's probably a little different than mine or most the footloose and fancy free codes out here. He's probably religious. He probably bases a lot of his life on things that I don't base my life on. I still, as a, as a, as, you know, as an atheist, I still think it's a pretty good policy in terms of, especially when you're in public office or in any position of prominence to just sort of make that your policy.

Because in this day and age of, he said and she said, God knows, people's careers have been destroyed over over almost nothing and and and again the media doesn't wait to sort things out well the thing we've lost i realized today what was it oh i forget what the story was oh i can't really come to me in a second but we've lost the ability to go oh i know it was it was spicer talking about hitler and stuff yeah and when somebody comes back around with all that stuff you should go you know what i mean you know you know i meant i'm sorry i misspoke we know what i mean that's we can't we're not allowed to do that anymore. It's weird. Well, you can't go out. I'm sorry. You know what I meant.

It's like, oh, no, you said, you saw, you saw, you saw. It's like, oh, yeah, yeah, but you know what I meant. I mean, he didn't even, if you look at that tape, it wasn't, he, he did it during the same press conference, he said, that's what I meant, you know what I mean. Yeah. He said it that day. Wasn't the next day. And why can we grant people that it's such a scary world when everything that you utter has to be to the letter literally taken no matter what it is? If I say, Adam, go fuck yourself. and I, you don't fuck yourself?

You know what I mean? It's like, he's, I know. Look, all it does is create a major tuneout factor for me because, you know, I hear about him, you know, Spicer denies. He's a Holocaust denier. And it's like, really? Let me hear what he said. It's like, oh, nothing. Oh, perfect.

But the other thing, though, this is something you and I have talked about over the years. And Ryan, thanks for bringing this up, which is. you know, maybe Mr. Pence is a passionate, passionate man. And I have always told you you cannot let the train leave the station. You know what I mean? Because that's when the trouble starts. You don't go to strip clubs for that reason. That's right.

The deal with Pence is I don't have this policy, although as I think about it, I do not go out to dinner with women other than my wife at all, as far as I know, unless it's a couple's kind of thing. Or a meeting or something. Yeah, I don't even know. I'm not trying to think of the last dinner. You know, me and Sharon Levy when she was running Spike, you know, to talk about the show or whatever, drinks, whatever. I don't have a policy.

On the other hand, as policies go. Well, it's my, look, it's, you know what it is? It's the Tim Tebowization of this country we're in, which is, everyone like. to jump on Tim Tebow and make fun of it. Write that word down, Gary. Yeah, we like to do the... Tim Teboization. Yeah, we do a thing where it's like, oh, look at this guy.

Oh, he says he's a virgin. Oh, oh, he's doing... Oh, he's going to Honduras again. Oh, he says he wants to adopt someone from every nation or every continent. Please spare us. Please spare us this. Oh, look at him praying again. Probably loves his parents.

Probably loves his country. Probably done a ton of missionary. work and horrible. Yes, good, fine, good. He's better than I am. I'm an atheist. And I wish more people are like Tim Tebow. And I'm a married guy and I wish more guys were like Mike Pence. So how about it? And is Mike Pence the problem? Is Tim Tebow the problem? Are these, Sean Spencer, is he the problem? Spicer, sorry. Is he the problem? Another guy named Spencer didn't do anything wrong either. But yeah, Spicer, see the problem? Or, is ISIS the problem and deadbeat dads and doctors who give out prescriptions for sexual payment. You like that guy.

I'm saying, who we have real problems. Yeah. We don't. By the way, joined the world poker tour after that. Yes. We've got his license taken away. We don't need to focus on Spicer or Tebow or Pence. They're fine.

They pay their taxes. But it is that whole issue of. not getting, don't go to the railroad station. If you don't expect the train to, you know, don't get on that train. Don't go near the train. Some people, for some people. And for not for others. But I guess it depends what the train is.

You know what I mean? For Mr. Pence, it's dinner. Yeah. Either, either way. For some people, it's a lap dance. Whatever it is, this is his policy. Let's not turn it into something that it's not. Yeah.

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Yeah, what's going on, Patrick? Hey, what's up, Ace, man? Long-time listener. Thanks. I'm back way to Love Line days. Thank you. Hey, yeah, I'm 42, and I used to play sports a lot, about 15 years, and got out of it, had a couple of babies, but watch them all day.

So I went to the doctor the other day, and he dropped the digital image for the first time, which is not fun at all. But he measured my pulse, which was 84, and I'm sure I used to be in the mid-60s, without worrying that much about it. So I'm just wondering if maybe Dr. Drew has any comment, whether that's like something I should be worried about. And just for ego purposes, what can I do is somebody who's kind of gym-constrained time to sort that out? Why would you want to change your pulse from specifically normal, categorically normal pulse?

He wants that long-distance runner pulse? Why would you want that? You read the data today and all the heart problems happening in the marathon. Every time a marathon goes to town, people drop dead and the cardiac units are full. Is that where you want to put yourself? I mean, 84 is exactly normal. Well, that is what the doctor said, and I don't go telling doctors. that they've said the wrong thing.

I guess I mean to say that for many years, I was kind of mid-60s. Patrick, you're 42 years old. You want to be normal at 42. Now, if you want to worry about your medical health, go get genetic screening at color.com. Get a colonoscopy if you want. Get up on a treadmill and make sure the coronators are clean. Stop drinking. Stop smoking.

But worrying about your pulse is a fool's errand. All right. Well, there you go. Let's keep rolling along here. There's an interesting one. Drew, has a question from Drew from Sam 44, Seattle. Sam. Hi, how's it going?

Good. So, Adam, you always talk about your loser friends from high school that you grew up with. But I'm wondering, Dr. Drew, if you have any loser friends like that, that you can make object lessons out of. I know North Hollywood is a little bit different than Little Lord Faroe Roy's School for albino, hemobiliacs. But were they all successes from there? Were they all successes?

I'm just thinking, yeah, they all sort of are not people I could make fun of. But I had lots of friends outside of there to keep my sanity. I hung out with people in Covina, which now everyone knows Covina because of the crazy ex-girlfriend musical show. That she went to Covina. Yeah, that's what the show is located. Oh, I didn't know that. And I had friends down in Orange County. And I'm trying to think amongst, I know there's screwballs and that, but nobody I haven't still in contact with, though, that could really substantiated.

And everyone I know that really is messed up has some mental health stuff going on. So I don't blame them for that. I had an interesting breakthrough on the set with Ray the other day. What? Well, not a good breakthrough. No. But an interesting thing. And I told him to talk to my dad about it.

Of course. I don't think he will. My dad's the dispensing advice. I'm very, see, there's a, I like to study life and people and reactions and things like that. And it's why I'm very much into actions and not mistakes. It's back to my pen, not Pence, all my Spicer. Spicer. Yeah.

My Spicer things. I don't care if I got. makes a mistake. I really don't. I care about what his intent is, what his actions. And now that if he actually makes a mistake, that's how you learn. Yeah. So I've realized that Ray, who's always been super combative about everything, just arguing about everything, literally he's, he's more unhappy to jump in and disagree with something before we even get to the end of it or or tell you're wrong about stupid stuff. Like, it's really bizarre. His the lengths that he will go to disagree, correct, call you wrong.

So he's got to, to be fair, call it you wrong. I'm not sure he does that with everybody. I don't know they does it with everybody, but it's not served him well. And he'll do this kind of weird stuff where I'll go like this tubing we're using. It's like a, what is it, like a variable conduit? Is it? And he'll go, it's EMT. And I'll go, it's not EMT.

No, it can't be EMT. because we're bending it, is it ABS or PVC? It's like EMT and I'll go, look, EMT's, uh, electro-metallic tubing. It's metal tubing for, like when you go,

going to Costco and you look up, you see all the tubing with all the wires running. Yeah, it's a word metal in it. We're bending it as well, it's like EMT. It's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, right, I just said it was conduit. I said it was conduit. Now, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it. it ABS or is it PVC? It's not EMT. That's metal. You know, and it's just plastics. I don't know which plastic is. It's variable conduit. It's like, you go round and round around and around. And it's just he jumps in. He's just an idiot. Like, he just doesn't shut up. Like, he has no,

Gary, does Ray have any qualms about jumping in about about? Absolutely not. About stuff he does, knows nothing about. No. Constantly. He seems to delight in it. Yeah, but then you end up distilling it. down and he doesn't know what he's talking about. Absolutely. All the time, all day, every day. And I tell him all the time to shut up and knock it off.

Just wait until him done talking and then we can do whatever. What was the breakthrough? Well, it was interesting. So I just sort of look at everyone and I kind of go, what did they hear, what was in it for them? How did they make this mistake? And like I said, there's mistakes. But then there are things that are manufactured and that's a process. The style.

Yeah, although style's kind of positive. Yeah, yeah. We were on the set the other day, and he was relating some story to me about somebody. And, God, I wrote down the name, but I can't remember what it was, Sean or Rick or something like that. But the point is this. He said, he said, this guy, Rick, wrote. a note, put on his car, and blah, blah, blah, and gave him the wrong phone number after he backed up into him and ruined his car, right? So I said, you know, where's my camera?

This is during rehearsals. I just said, hey, Rick, if you're watching, we're coming, gunning for you. You hear me, Rick? And then we finished, and he said, like Ray paused and went, uh, his name was Rick. And I said, didn't I say Rick? And he said, no, you didn't say Rick. He was, you know, whatever. He said, dick.

or like another name or whatever. And I said, really? I thought I said, Rick. And then I looked at everyone who was standing by the camera, the cameraman and a floor producer and everything. And I said, what I say? And I said, now you said, Rick. And I looked at Ray and I said, you're standing right next to me.

Why? And then I realized, even when I say the right thing, you gave me the name. I repeated the name. The other five people in the room heard the name clearly, and all of them are standing further away. You're standing a foot away from me. they're standing 14 feet away from me.

Everyone heard it. Why when I was done, did you stop and go, you got the wrong name? And don't, but by the right, people can say, well, maybe he thought you said or he heard, but let's examine that. How did he hear something that didn't exist? See, I'm very interested in this part of life. And that was enough to have him go, no. That's my point. You heard me talk and you said, no, you didn't hear Dick.

because no one else heard it. Everyone else who didn't have an agenda heard it. You didn't hear it and not because something else was said or not because there's something sonically going on, but there's something wrong with your process. And that's why you've converted this. And if you'd like to get it to truth in life, everybody, look for those little moments where people physically create something that didn't actually happen. They sort of show themselves.

Yes. Yeah. And what happened? Well, now, what happens is if you're alone, if you're alone, they go, oh, no, you said dick. That's why. Because the person that has the veto, who has the upper hand, is the person who's standing next to you when you're reading the cue card or yelling in the camera, in which case, if I stood next to you, you don't tap down a show and go, let's do that again. You didn't say Rick. And, by the way, I, you know, we both do a lot of talking on microphones.

I will frequently, my mouth will get away from me. I'll go, what did I say? You know what I mean? And I'm unpreared to accept right away. I go, okay, I said, Dick and the guy wrote the hammer and Rodhard, Kevin Hensh is standing next to you and goes, we got to do that again. You said, Dick, you go, sorry, let's go again. So it's not us.

I mean, we constantly are being like. Right. But when Ray says it, you have to stop now. Yeah. Because that's all he does is argue about everything and manufacture stuff. And then you stop and then you go, pretty sure I said Rick. But secondly, let's talk to the five other people in this room. because see, when we're alone, this works like a charm.

Because you get to just go, that's what I heard you say, and you get to go, I don't think I said that. And you go, well, you don't think you did, but you did because I'm just standing here. But now there's five other people that just explain it to you. And now we get a little insight. But then my next question is always this. You're going to turn 54 years of age in five weeks. How has this been serving you?

You live in an apartment and your truck is worth $2,100. there's actually more damage to your truck than it is worth. How is this serving you? And if it's not serving you... Change. Change course. Perhaps. Let's change.

And I say that to everyone on almost every subject. How is it serving? If it's not serving you, let's look for an alternative path. Yeah. I just been thinking about that lately. And, you know, I'm going to give a talk in New Jersey about replacement therapies and stuff. And I'm realizing that doctors are giving people an awful lot of medication that make them difficult for them to change, if not possible. Right.

And it's starting to bother me. I wish he could say he was on some of that. I'll tell you what you should get on. Blinds galore. Oh, we're in. All that stuff you walk through, by the way, we're using blinds galore for all those windows. Shrewd, dude. Yeah.

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Yeah. And even though Drew won't be doing it himself. No, my wife's doing the whole thing. I just saw it sitting there. I was like, wow, I could probably do this if I had to. But thank God she's doing it. You could pick out a stupid swatch, Drew. What I'm saying is...

I'm colorblind. Are you? You could hang these things yourself. Yes. You just put the brackets in and snap it into place. It's very easy. I'm good with the screwdriver. Drew's not going to do it.

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Very nice. All right. And me and Dennis Prager, there's a guy with a lot of wisdom. You can enjoy that. I agree with me. New t-shirts. Go to amcroll.com. Whatever you need.

Drew. Go to atrew.com. The ice house thing will be down this week, right, Gary? So it'll probably be a call show up. Probably. But you can still see. Yeah, I still suggest you go see Melmy and Catherine on the Icehouse show will be up as well. Dr.ru.com.

We got all those great web, all those podcasts. We've got the weekly infusion, and me in spas. We got The This Life with me and Bob Forrest and then Dr. Drew podcast that Gary helped me out with. So until next time, Adam Croll for Dr. Drew, Sam. Mahala.