The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #597: He Was Bludgeoned

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

June 6, 2017 - Adam and Drew open the show with a discussion about Hogan’s Heros and the untimely death of its star Bob Crane in a Scottsdale, AZ hotel room. They then turn to the phones and speak to a variety of callers including one who wants Drew’s thoughts on a drug he’s taking, a caller who is interested in Sonny’s disposition and much more.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Well, it's time for episode 599. June 2017. We opened the show with a discussion about Hogan's heroes in the untimely death of Bob Crane. Very timely. He was in a Scottsdale Hotel Road, apparently. There's a lot of mystery behind it. Then we go to the phones and speak to a variety of callers, including one who wants my thoughts on, including one who wants my thoughts on medication he's taking, and a caller who's interested in Sunny's disposition. Well, we get into it. That and more on episode 597 from 2017, enjoy. Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get on a choice. We've got our mandate. Get on. Thanks, tuning.

Thanks, telling us. Thanks for all you do for us. How are you doing, Drew's? I'm good. Let's see. We did our Kathy thing I wanted to talk about. What calls. say good day.

I got Philly Cheesesteak in studio. Yeah, he's a little distracted. He's laying down now, I think. With his move, he likes to get up on me and then slide my stool backwards. So you literally can't control that when that happens, because it looks like he's like, it looks like you're evolutionally pushing it back. It's so natural. Yeah.

Now he's taking a little rest. This is a weird guy. He has a witching hour, which is usually about 8 p.m. and he also knows I'm the guy to come mess with. So he comes mess, messes with me, and he just barks in my face, like as loud as he can. If I'm sitting at my computer about 8 o'clock, 7.30 o'clock, he comes over, he gets up on me, puts his paws on me, starts to start smacking me with his paw, and then he just barks right in my face as loud as he can. Our dog does that too, and it's funny how some dogs are sort of vocal.

Yeah. Our new dog, our young dog is that. Our older dogs, not a peep. Ever. Well, the thing that's interesting is Phil pretty much only barks at me. He doesn't, if somebody knocks on the door, he doesn't bark, and he doesn't bark at squirrels in the backyard. But he comes to me, and he wants to tussle. Oh, uh-oh.

He wants to get going. He wants to get going. He wants me to come after him. He wants me to chase him. He's doing it. He did a whole perimeter check here. He's just doing a, I got him, I got him trained to sniff out drugs and backyard fruit, man. So, all right.

So, so. So because you called our French tile guy, Leboe, during the filming of the Adam and Friends Build stuff, episode, I watched two episodes of Hogan's Heroes last time. And I kept saying, there's Lebo. There's Lebo. There's Lebo. But it was her motivation. She motivated the viewer. It was not me going to watch Hogan's Heroes.

Hold on. Her. Hold on. She motivated. She picked it. It was watching it. Wait a minute. I'm confused now.

You have the, you're French tile guy. You mentioned Lebeau. I call him Lebeau. And I'm not sure if she went to watch Hogan's Heroes because... Hold on. You keep saying she. Were you talking about your wife? Yeah.

Okay, I didn't somehow miss the wife part. Well, she was there when you mentioned Leboe. Yeah, I get it. Didn't quite understand it. Oh, she didn't get the reference. She didn't really get it. Okay. So I just kept saying, Hogan's heroes.

So now here's Hogan's... Hold on a chick not getting a joke? What? It's got to be a first. Go ahead. But a couple, a couple observations. about Hogan's hero. Ken, what's the guy's name?

Ken, uh, the guy's plays Hogan. Ken Berry, is that his name? No, no, no. I'll get to the, I'll, he was a whack job, right? He had, Washington? No, no. No, I'll, I'll, I'll think of it. It's not Ken.

It's not Ken. No. Ken Barry is from. Oh, yeah, I don't, right. It's sad. Ask me the vice president is. I don't know. Can we do you?

What's a character's name? Theme song, F, Troop? Hogan? Theme song? Oh, I know. Hold on. second. All right.

It scares me. Bob Crane. Bob Crane. Yeah. All right. So Bob Crane was a wife as you do, right? He was the one? Well, Bob Crane is an interesting guy because Bob Crane...

Quickly after you. Yeah. Right. Bob Crane was a radio DJ in Los Angeles. I didn't know that. He was a, he was started off as a pretty big radio guy in Los Angeles. then he became a Disney movie guy. Disney used to crank out a lot of live action like the goose that laid the million dollar eggs or shaggy DA and my dad.

Well, also a lot of wilderness sort of videos. Well, they did like Swiss family Robinson and stuff, but they cranked out a lot of. Kurt Russell was a star in Disney movies from back in the 60s and maybe even the 70s. So they had these, see, Disney cranked out this like live action comedy sort of stuff with these group of like familiar faces, but they're mostly familiar because it was you saw the last Disney film where the guy played the dad, whatever. And they, oh, they had the world's greatest athlete, Jan Michael Vincent. They had Gus, the mule, the kick field goals.

Remember that? I do. Best seen in every bad sports movie when a dog or a mule is playing. They're like, the ref runs to the sideline because the other coach is complaining. And they go, you show me in the rulebook where it says a donkey can't, Kick field goals is like, well, of course it doesn't say a donkey, because then it would have to say an ostrich. You have to pick every animal on Noah's Ark. That's exactly right.

They were still thinking when they can't find in the yearbook, in the rule book, where it says a giraffe can't play center field, then they go, my hands are tied, coach, and the reference the other side. But the strange thing to me is how Disney just doubled down on this crap. I don't understand. It wasn't until Michael Eisner arrived that they just turned. So they would crank it. this stuff out. So Bob Crane was that guy. Now, we're talking about Kathy Griffin

last show. Well, Bob Crane also had an addiction to pornography and beyond. Beyond, beyond, right? I mean, probably just a little piece of the story. He needed it. And it was back when the stuff wasn't readily available. I mean, you had to work.

You couldn't just pop open your computer. Like he had weird dens he would maintain. There was a lot of stuff going on. But so here you are on this over-the-top sitcom, and here you are the star of Disney movies, and you have this bizarre, dark, sort of macabre pornographic. And this is back before, you know, people porn. Who cares? Everyone's done a little, looked on Porn Hub or done a little porn in their day or whatever.

No, this is a big deal. And so he's living this sort of life of, hey, it's like Bill Cosby. Like, hey, I'm everyone's dad. I'm the greatest dad. He's playing dad in all these Disney movies. And then, of course, it starts to leak out. He marries his co-star in Hogan's Heroes, like the blonde, like Olga or whatever. The secretary for Klink.

Right, right. The hot blonde. Of course, he marries her. And then leaves his wife. And people start finding out about this, you know, the little stories about the porn addiction and the pictures and the stuff. And, of course, Disney's like, hey, man, you know, we'd like to do another movie with you, but we're Disney and Fraulein Helga. That's right.

Is that the character? I'm way off with Olga. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Hilda, Helga, Hilda. All right. The point is this going, this stuff is going back to the 60s. Disney, you know, now CNN is saying to Kathy Griffin, huh, huh.

But they're saying to Bob Crane, we can't do another one of those. wacky, gee-rated daddy movies with this sort of weird porn obsession thing in the tabloids. Yeah. We're not putting you

on the poster of our movie when I was going to think about porn when they see you. So that kind of ended that. And he was then just sort of doing dinner theater in Arizona. Is that after Hogan's Heroes

or what brought him back for Hogan's Heroes? I think the Hogan's Heroes came to an end and I think as Hogan's Heroes, think as Hogan's heroes came to an end, the whole pornography, he had the rap out there that this guy's kind of poison, you know, like, you don't want to hire Bob Crane to be in your movie or to be in your sitcom or whatever. There's all this weird stories about him and porno and

sex dungeons and weird parties and watching and stuff like that. Today, that'd be sort of like nothing. I think it's Drew Carey's, it's called, called Thursday for Drew Carey. But now that, you're like, hey, man, you're reading sex negative. Leave him alone. Yeah, yeah. So it was a big deal. And so he had to work. And so he was doing like dinner theater in Phoenix. And he was, you know, after the show, getting the chicks to come back with him to his room and with his buddy and filming him, filming him having sex and filming his buddy having sex. And just that was wild back then like like all. I mean like otherworldly. Yeah. Yeah. And now. And then, you know, his buddy killed him basically. Oh, really? Yeah. He was murdered.

I thought he committed suicide. Drew, what don't you know about everything? He was bludgeon to death. Very famously with like a piece of equipment, like tripod or whatever, and then like choked with like a lamp cord and left in his room. And it's part of one of these bizarre parties or? I don't know. I'd probably, if it is part of the party, I don't like see the invitation. I mean, it sounds like drugs and alcohol.

Well, he had this sort of A.V. expert partner guy. It's all in a movie. They did a movie. I know that. Yeah. He had this A.V. expert partner guy. And this guy would say, I can get you at Sony has a new beta max. You know, we don't have to develop the film anymore. We can do it on a tape. You know, we could watch it later that night. And of course, no matter, the real star in Hollywood is your A.V guy. It's not Brad Pitt. It's Brad Pitt's A-V guy because he's trying to show films at his house and have movie night and stuff and the speakers don't work. You know, I've got to get the A-V guy. That's who the real star of Hollywood is the A-V guy. And so Bob Crane is like, you can get, I can get this, I can get that, I can get the early

production one or this, I got this, you know, it's the size of a piece of Samsonite, but that was considered miniature, you know, back then. They didn't have to have a truck filled with equipment. and he could film all this stuff. And it appeared that this guy sort of kept wanting more. More involvement? More involvement. Maybe he was attracted to Bob Crane as well.

There may have been some weird, you know, sort of bisexual stuff going on. Oh, I see. There may be, you know. And then it was one of these things where I think, I think Bob Crane was sort of like, this guy's pretty dark and pretty nuts. And each time I'm with a chick, I feel somebody's hand on my balls and it's him, you know? And I think Bob was just like, I think I got to get a little distance from this guy. And, of course, these guys are always the same guy, which is where are you going.

Oh, no, you're not going anywhere. And everyone, now this is before DNA and forensic, this and that. every arrow in the world pointed to this guy. But back then, it was like, hey, man, unless there was a third person who witnessed this, it's his word against the dead guy's word. And this guy just sort of went free, and they never found the killer. By the way, when you never find the killer, it means it's the first guy. It's like, of course it's the first guy declares he's going to find it. I'm going to find that killer.

Of course, it's O.J, because we've never found there's. If it wasn't OJ, there'd be somebody else. And that sounds insane, right? So they never found the killer. This guy went free. And years later, like maybe 25, 30 years later, they found some, they were able, now DNA caught up. And they were able to do some DNA or whatever. They were able to link him.

I think he actually got sentenced and got, and went to. And he did go to prison. And then, like, died immediately in prison. So it wasn't that satisfying. Gary, I don't know what the story is. Gary's saying, no. He was... At first, they investigated...

They were investigating. This guy became a person of interest. They found his rental car. He had, like, come into Phoenix from out of town. They discovered him through some videotape, found his rental car, had blood smears in it. They tried to test it. The Scottsdale Police Department did not have a homicide division at the time because it was a very small police department. Quaint, right?

Yeah. They basically found this guy's car with a bunch of blood, but decided there wasn't enough evidence. They didn't file charges. Then, like, five years, five to ten years later, something like that, they... Why do you know all this? He's reading about. Okay, reading it. Okay, good.

I don't make sure. I want to make sure it's not something that's... He's 31. Of course he knows all this stuff. That's what the kid's doing. I'm a huge olden heroes fan. Go ahead. A fucking computer in front of me.

Yeah, but he's not reading it while he's doing it. But go ahead. Well, he's read. He's good. Okay, go ahead. then a few years just checking why do you know okay a few years later

they had some more advanced technology and they elected to arrest and try him at the trial he was acquitted and maintained his innocence until four years later when he died so he never he may have been in jail while he was being tried but he was never convicted or sent to prison

let's talk about cars for the crime true car and he never posthumously was whatever there's something this says here this is what I was reading at the very end. In November 2016, the Maricopi County Attorney's Office permitted Phoenix television reporter John Hook to submit the blood samples from 78 for retesting using a more advanced DNA technique. And this is the line I was trying to figure out. Two sequences were identified, one from an unknown male and the other two degraded to reach a conclusion. And that's the end of the article.

Oh, so it does not point towards him. It points towards a male. An unknown male doesn't match him. Hmm. Interesting. Well, so the way I heard it at least. Now, so do we think this, we think he did it or, well, whatever. It seems like everyone thinks that he did it, but he was able to raise enough. Evidence does not suggest. Well, maybe. I'm not sure if everything, what Gary just said, I'm not totally sure how to interpret that.

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Too late, I'm talking. He's got a hole forever. All right, let's talk to line four. Jesus Christ. Josh, 30, Newport Beach? Yeah, hey. Drew's thought on medication, Zelsa, what the hell is that? a new medicine.

Go ahead. What's it called? It's called Zeljans. So I have like full-blown alopecia areata, universalis. Like I don't have any hair anywhere in my body. Yeah. And it's a good thing these days. Yeah.

Yeah. And this medication, I guess, was originally used to treat rheumatoid arthritis. And now they're looking at it's been pretty successful for treating some cases of alopecia. Yeah. When I talked to my doctor, you know, he seemed pretty. pretty excited about it. But when I did a little bit of research online, it just kind of looked like, like you're basically trying to take care of a mouse problem with an atom bomb.

Like it's shutting down on your immune system. It's a pretty intense medicine. I mean, I sort of think of it as something that's used in real resistant active rheumatoid arthritis. Yeah. And, I mean, it would probably work. It makes sense to be at work. For hair. For immune attack on your hair follicles. Oh, right. Hey, Josh. Do you have eyebrows? I do not. You have nothing, don't hear anywhere.

No, I get it. But so the thing, I'm really breaking this down because of this fucking horrible society we've created where everyone is like shaving their taint and stuff. And guys are completely hairless and that's the way they like it kind of thing. You know, this was a big deal. You didn't want to be bald in the 70s and you didn't want to have, you know, they'd say, puts hair on your chest. That guy's a man. He's got hair on it. Now you're penalized.

for hair. I'm thinking like eyebrows are a concern. Yeah, oh yeah. But they are. eyelashes. But eyelashes are concerned. But your back, your shoulders, your upper arms, your chest. That's not anymore. Not anymore. Yeah.

So, and being bald not anymore. So it's really, to me, just about eyebrows and eyelashes. How's the eyelashes going? Not good. So the eyelashes, I can't get to grow at all. But I have been doing for the eyebrows is getting interleasional steroid injections, so going in, like, every couple months.

All right. And then I'll usually get eight to ten injections at a time. Does it work? Wow. It kind of works, but not really. Like, it's really weird. Actually, being out in the sunlight helps quite a bit. So in the summertime, it's much more effective.

Do they, do, can't they do, you know, do hair transplants? I could be a donor, by the way, for the brow. No, why not the brow? It attacks the hair follicle, so you can't do when you hear. It won't accept anything. It won't stay. Yeah. I'm almost thinking about like a mirkin kind of a thing.

You know what I mean? Like in Last Man on Earth, where Bill haters wearing those were those murkins on his eyebrows. I didn't know, did not know that. But honestly, like I feel like we're good enough today to do like a toupee. Yeah, something aesthetic. Yeah, you probably could. Yeah. I mean, honestly, I'm fine with me.

being bald. I don't care about that. It's more about the eyebrows and the eyelashes. I agree. I agree. So you ask about the Zell Jan. So it is a medicine that has been, there been concerns about it. It actually did not get approval in the European Union because of these concerns. The rest of the world has it. Here's what I would do if I were you. The Department of Dermatology at Yale School of Medicine is sort of the ground zero for Alopecia Totalis, which is what you have. And they have a bunch of protocols going, or I had about a bunch protocols.

They've got a whole big group of patients that they're studying and having good effect with, apparently. I read some publications about a year or two ago that looked very encouraging on this. I would touch base with them, see what they're doing, have your doctors touch base with them,

and make sure you're getting the state of the art. It sounds like what they're doing is a little bit, it's aggressive, but it's not necessarily the state of the art. So check in with Department of Dermatology Yale School of Medicine. Sandra 56, Monterey. Hey, how are you guys? Good.

Good. I was just wondering if you ever thought about Sunny being, maybe taking after your father as far as being kind of just a flatliner and not really moving the needle and like an old cat or something. Every time you say something like that, it kind of makes me think, well, he's taken after his grandpa. Yeah, he's got a little of that in him. He has, well, I will say this. The thing that I think separates my dad and my mom to some degree from Sonny is Sonny has things he's interested in and things he's not interested in,

and he's not interested in what his hair looks like. There's no interest in it. It's a waste of his time. He's not getting... It's not getting laid. He's 10 years. old. He doesn't care. So, you know, I told him this morning, hey, we're getting you a haircut. And he's like, well, maybe, okay, or not. It doesn't.

That's a waste on my tie. He does not care. Natalia takes so much after her grandmother as far as Lynette's mother that you guys remember. Oh, yeah, it's a little scary. Really? I don't see that. Well, no, but no, Lynette's mom was a whirling dervish. Yeah. And Let's mom would just kind of go, you know, just hear on the other end. of the house and she'd just go like woo-wee you know but then she'd like go woo thank you god you know and natalia you will hear her just scream on the other side of house and then also like i was watching i was watching natalia devour a chicken leg yeah and she's like pulling the cartilage off the end and sucking the marrow out and pulling every part you like the skin and the gristle and and

and everything. Max Paddo eats shrimp tails for fucking like a manatee over there. He's nodding fiercely, but I was just staring at her and I was going, what the hell? Like eight-year-old's like fisting this, this chicken bone and like breaking off, all the stuff you don't want. She's breaking it off and devouring it. And I thought, oh, my grandma. That's my grandma used to do that. My grandmother, I remember she'd be like the gristle, the marrow, like the skin. That's the best part.

And everyone would be sitting around the table kind of going. on, I like the meat under the thing neck, but I'm not eating the end of the weird end of the chicken bone off. Natalia, it's seven devouring it. Wow. And I'm like, I think that's my grandma. I just got my grandma going over there. I don't know where this comes.

You know, Sonny went nothing to do. You know, he wants a chicken tender. Was your grandma's ethnicity again? I don't know. Nobody. She wouldn't have a guy. Nothing just sort of English, Irishy, Western European. Yeah, yeah, just white.

But anyway. Sounds like such a bohemian, you know, eastern, northern European thing. I don't, I don't, no one knows what anyone was, but we did find out she was a daughter of the revolution. Yeah. We found that out. We need to do like an ancestry thing on him. Somebody did it on, get it, you know, get it and they can spit the thing. I have no, I've zero interest in this.

I've zero interest in it. It's all false on it. I bet you Sonny would have no interest in it either. Yeah, but wouldn't it be interesting if, you know. So, you know what Jimmy Kimmel said to me, and this made me interested? He said, you should do one of those ancestry things. And again, Sonny and me, and I'll explain my dad in a second, it doesn't make any difference to me. It's not whatever I'm doing, I'm doing.

It's from this day forward. When I hear people talk about, you know, I just, I don't like it when black leaders talk about slavery all the time. It's like, okay, that happened. Now what's going on tomorrow? Please, let's focus on what's going on. Yeah, but you can't deny this happened. No, no one's denying it happened. We're looking for what's going on tomorrow.

Yeah, but you've got to look at the future. You want to look forward. I'm like, no, you don't. Let's talk about what we're going to do tomorrow. No, no, can't deny this. It's like, okay. By the way, that is the path to a fucking cinderblock wall, whether it's an individual or whole society. That is a path to zero success.

And you can make all the fucking faces you want, But why is it, 2017? Everyone's going, what's going on in the black community? It's not helping. It's not for any community. How about the Armenians in the way they worry about the genocide? It is. They've moved on.

They were right. Thank you, Drew. I'm just saying. I always liked when you do this. That was the post. That's why I made the boss. No, the Armenians, look, can I say this? I'm just saying.

Can I say? No, you're not because I'm going to fucking shut you down in a second. Please do. Mark Gargos is passionate about the Armenian genocide. Yeah. but he never cites it as a reason why the Armenians aren't doing better in this country. Okay. You understand the difference then?

If the Armenians said, because of the genocide, we can't flourish here. Of course, our test scores are lower. What about the genocide? And if they did, you would tell them that's not beneficial to you in 2017, living in Glendale, California. Understand it, accept it. Do whatever you have to do once a year to commemorate it. have a parade or a march or whatever or get a plaque and now it's time to go to work that's the difference i'm glad you brought that up and shot yourself in the foot okay uh my dad the difference

between sunny and my dad is my dad doesn't have anything that flips his cookie i mean he likes a little jazz and he likes pontificating but he doesn't really sunny doesn't care about his hair and doesn't care about what his dress is and doesn't care about a million million and one things. Schools probably half of that. But he does care about the NBA, and he does care about the NFL, and he does care about many things that he enjoys.

He likes humor. He likes going with me to the car races. You know, he has things, whereas my dad is truly just a flatliner. That's the difference. And I'm the same way. I've no interest in many things, no matter how much people,

People want to get me into Walking Dead or Game of Thrones or whatever Call of Duty, whatever video game, zero, zero. But insanely interested in three-piece BBS wheels. Drew likes my obsession with wheels. Go to Adamcroll.com, find out about the live shows and the movies and no safespaces.com and all the good stuff. Drewski. Go to Dr.com, get the family of pods there, me and spas, me and, uh, Bob For us, check it all out. So, oh, wait, hey, excuse me.

What's up with Dr. Drew podcast right now? Is it calls? Phone calls. Calls. Really interesting calls. Calls, call shows, yeah. Until next time. Adam Crowell for Dr. Sam.

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