The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #666: Teenage Angst
Episode Date: December 4, 2025September 13, 2017: Adam and Dr. Drew open the show discussing Drew’s son Douglas and how he is a well put together and confident person, especially given his age and both guys give differe...nt thoughts on how he got there and could’ve gotten there other ways as well. They also speak to a few callers including one who is trying to figure out how to tell his girlfriend that he doesn’t want to move in with her as a result of her teenage child living in the home as well.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Time for throwback episode number two. Teenage angst. It is just a couple episodes out from the last
throwback. It is September 13, 2017, and we talk about my son and how he's well put together
and confident, especially given his age. And we get different thoughts, Adam and I, on how you get
there and how it could have gone a different way. We also talked to a few callers, including one
who's trying to figure out how to tell his girlfriend that he doesn't want to move in with her
as a result of the teenage child that is living in the home as well.
Get to it with Teenage Angst September 2017.
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and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky.
You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show.
Yeah, get it on.
Got to get it on.
No choice but to get on mandate.
Get it on.
Thanks for tuning in.
Thanks for telling a friend.
We love that about you.
Right, Drew?
We do, indeed.
Yeah, what's going on there, man?
I've just got a lot of thoughts.
Got a lot of thought.
I want to get to calls really as soon as possible,
but I was thinking about you were talking to me the other day about how you,
got a bunch of stuff I want to talk about,
but how you thought Douglas was such a conversationalist?
Douglas, your son.
Well, I didn't think of him as a conversationalist.
I thought I was a pretty well put together guy.
Okay.
He's got his feet firmly planted on the ground.
You couldn't have a conversation with him.
You know, he's not weird.
I mean, it's not like, you know, fidgety and sort of distracted and whatever.
It was very well put together.
Okay.
I was thinking about how much his experience at Vanderbilt made him a kind.
It was weird.
Like, I felt like his social skills sort of developed at that school.
It's kind of interesting.
Yeah, I know you like school.
But my feeling is, is if we took him and put him on some job somewhere and he did that for four years,
if we put him on a, if we put that kid on a tuna boat, he'd have the same.
He'd smell different, but he'd have that same sense.
That's my feeling.
The other thing is, I'm meant to ask you about that deal that Trump made with the Democrats.
I never heard your thoughts on that.
What was the deal?
About the debt limits and the giving the aid for the Houston hurricane and now we've got the other hurricane.
But he'd made a deal with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.
you didn't have any thoughts on it no i didn't know all i all the only stories i hear is uh he's being
investigated because it was russian times i didn't know there was other things happening
other than his connection to russia what was that well what was it well it was just a deal and
it pissed off all the uh republicans i like i like deals yeah you know that's what my thing
too i think was like it's i like the idea that they're making deals like they make this government
work yeah i like i like incentives and i like deal
And, you know, it's one of those things where people get angry, where I'd say, like, look, we need more organ donors.
Give everyone $100 off their registration when they register their cars.
And if they agree to be an organ donor, people go, what?
Yeah, motivation.
And we'll go, what do you mean?
Why not?
What?
No.
Not paying you to be an organ.
No, we're giving you a $100 break on the registration of your new car.
No.
Why not?
You're paying for organs.
You're harvesting, you know, and you go, hold on, do you want more organ donors?
Yes, we all want more organ donors.
Okay.
Would you like more organ donors?
Yes, of course.
Okay, well, then just do this.
The last podcast, yesterday's podcast, you were talking about pragmatism.
This is pragmatism.
It's a pragmatic solution.
How do you get people to donate more organs?
We need more organs.
Okay.
That's how you do it.
Yeah, it's like somebody, you know, whenever somebody does one of those things where they go,
look, there's some
woman who's out of
Portland and she's giving
she wants to give
free
birth control or free
vasectomies to
men who have over six kids
and apply for
financial aid. I'm like,
good, yes, good. That's smart.
What are you saying?
You're playing God? No, no. You don't
have to apply for financial aid. Playing God.
Playing God is you're getting a vasectomy whether you like it or not.
This is you've put your hand out, and now we have a deal, sort of the same deal you have with the car wash.
They wash your car, then you pay them.
They don't pay them, or they don't have to wash your car for free, or you can wash it yourself in the driveway.
Or you can never wash your car.
I'm just saying when you do, in fact, go in and make this sort of deal, then that's,
that's the deal now. And the car wash could charge $1,000 a wash in my world. And then you could go,
whoa, well, that's too expensive for a car. Yeah, it is. So don't go. Or maybe some people do go.
That'll be their business. So my feeling is whenever somebody says, whenever I hear a politician,
especially, and they don't like to make deals. But when I hear politicians say, you know,
you can be on welfare for six months, but then you can be on welfare for six months, but then you
got to prove you're looking for a job, or if you're able-bodied, you don't get it for more
than two months, and then we're going to cut you off.
That's cruel.
You can't do it.
No, no, that's called life.
That's called life.
You get incentives.
You make deals.
It starts when you're a kid, you know, mama says, empty the dishwasher.
You get your allowance.
Or mow the lawn.
You'll get your allowance.
Or mow the lawn.
Or, well, shut your TV or no TV for you.
Or whatever it is.
That's how all of life works.
works in the animal kingdom and in the human.
So I don't know what the parameters of the deal is, but I like deals in general.
And I have no idea.
Look, there's good deals and there's bad deals.
I just like, I don't like the idea that the government doesn't make deals.
They just go, look, here's the deal.
If you own a, you know, if you work for them and you're a contractor, I'll give you a, I would, I had dinner a Saturday night.
with a fella who, and their family.
Our family, their family, good family.
And this guy works for big outfit and big construction outfit.
And these guys do, they do the LAX remod.
They do soccer stadiums.
They do what have you.
I said, how's the soccer stadium coming along?
He said, good.
I said, what do you think?
He said, I think we're going to finish about a month early,
maybe three weeks or a month early.
Does he have an incentive for that?
Yes, he has an incentive for that.
Then he's going to do it.
And not only as you have incentive for that,
he has another added incentive,
which is they basically bid out all the workers and all the people for two years,
and if you can shave a month off of that, then that's even more incentive.
So, yes, he's going to finish.
He's going to make sure they finish because he has incentive.
Funny how that works.
Really funny how that works.
When the 10 freeway collapsed on itself, or on itself,
but the 10 freeway after that.
the 94 earthquake collapsed.
And it was a big deal in our city because it's a pretty busy stretch of highway.
And I'm going to, I'm going to butcher the numbers, but it doesn't matter.
You don't need the numbers.
The guy said, look, it's going to take five months to get this thing back up and running.
And they said, fine.
But every week you can do it inside of five months, it's going to be $100,000 in it for you.
Guess who finished a goddamn thing in like seven weeks?
with crews going 24-7 and weekends.
I wonder why.
Okay.
So now that we've established, that's how people work,
then why don't we just cut a deal with everybody on everything all the time?
Yeah, but Adam, don't be cruel.
You can't do that with welfare.
You can't do that with harvesting organs.
Sure, you can.
You can do it with everything all the time.
I'm going to make, you're making an argument.
Yeah, but you can't do that with kids,
or you can't do that with food programs.
You can't do.
Oh, yes.
It's the only way you should do anything since that's the only rule that ever applies.
There's only one rule.
That's the rule.
Everything else is pie in the sky.
Hey, wouldn't it be nice?
Wouldn't it be nice if there was no welfare fraud?
Yeah, that'd be nice.
But that's not how it works.
This is how it works.
That's how it works.
Now, don't know why that's not a bigger part of life when it's the
only part of life as it pertains to humans and doing anything you want them to do.
Yeah.
It's weird, right?
Yeah.
What is the argument with that, what I just said?
Why is there so much pushback against that?
It's hard for me to speak to that because I don't get it.
I don't get why there'd be any pushback to pragmatic reality.
Though I was, what's ringing in my head is a little bit that during the Constitutional
Convention, they were talking about cruel and unusual punishment in the Bill of Rights.
or that wasn't the constitutional convention
the first Congress after they'd approved the
Constitution. And one senator
got up and said, cruel and unusual
punishment, I don't know,
some men just need to get caned
or need to get beaten. Some men
just need to be beaten. And I thought, well, that's
we're pushing back from that, you know what I mean?
We're trying to dial back
from being, you know,
overly,
what's the word, enthusiastic
and abusive and
trying to expect the better angels
of our nature to prevail, and we've gone too far.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Let's see.
Line three has been a whole forever.
Line three.
Let's talk to Chad, 48, St. Louis.
Chad.
Hi, guys.
Thanks for taking my call.
Sure, Chad.
Thanks for hanging on.
What's going on?
I've got a little dilemma here.
I've been divorced for four years.
Met a great gal, and we've been seeing each other for two years.
About a year ago, she wanted to move in.
together i said no she had just recently been divorced herself i thought it was too soon so we've
continued to date um she doesn't have her son all the time about 50 percent and we don't i've
never spent a lot of time with him um he's a nice enough young man um but here lately we've been
spending more time together as a group and uh he's i mean he's just he's at that teenage year he's
15, 14, he just lounges around. He doesn't pick up. He doesn't do anything. And I'm thinking
in myself, before I make this commitment to move in, you know, is it my place to say something to
her? Do I just tell her, I can't do this, living with a teenager that just wants to lounge around?
But part of your motivation here is not just your own irritation with this kid. It's that
you want to be able to do the parenting, I'm hoping, and it's not really your place to do the
parenting. So why don't you place the reason for not moving in on the well-being of the
child? Like, look, I'm going to be, it's not good for him to have two dads and a stepdad.
When he's out after 18, then, and we're still together, I'll move in. Something like that.
Wait a minute. How's the well-being? I don't get the well-being part. In other words, if this kid,
we're going to have all kinds of conflicts around this kid, he clearly doesn't want to listen to
me. I'm not even going to be a stepdad by the time he's out probably. You know what I mean?
until he's seven, whatever.
If you don't get married.
Let's figure out with Chad here.
If you were going to get married, this is a different story.
Let me graft on the Chad here.
Okay.
I'm with you in that I don't like the bummer mascots around the house.
The lazy bummer mascots kind of loafing around the house.
I don't need them to do anything.
I just don't want to see him poking around the house.
Like I feel like the sun shining.
You don't need to do anything, but you need to do something.
The kid.
Yeah, but now you.
being the dad.
No, well, hold on.
Hold on.
He's kind of being the guys paying half the bills for the loungatorium that the kid's living in.
Hold on, just quiet.
He said he was a good kid.
So Chad said.
Yeah, he's not in trouble with anyone.
He does typical teenage stuff, you know, gets the center of the principal's office
because he and his friends were acting up occasionally.
I'm not a big fan of the way his relationship with his mom is.
He's kind of acts like a baby, kind of back talks.
And when he stays with his dad, I mean, it's, when she goes over there and gives me kind of an overview report of what it's like there, the house is a mess, nobody does anything.
He kind of, his dad was pretty successful, lost his job, so he's been staying with his dad a little bit more often because his dad really doesn't make him do anything.
So let me, wait a second, where is the good kid? I haven't seen a good kid yet.
Well, yeah, I think you're minimizing what you got here.
It's like he dabbles in arson, like most 14, 15-year-olds, you know.
Right. I mean, he's not out late. He comes home.
He's 14. You don't even understand what you're going to get into at 16.
Right. Right. So let's try to figure this one out.
How is your relationship with him?
He's a night. It's fine. She always says, hey, he asks about you if he doesn't see me when I'm around him.
He's fine. How does he take to your coaching, have you ever?
had a situation where you've, like, said, hey, let's go out to the garage and straighten
things up?
You know, just a couple weekends ago, you know, he was kind of lounging around and
after we cooked breakfast and he wasn't doing anything and I said, hey, would you mind
getting these dishes?
And he said, yeah, I'll get to him.
And he did get to him a couple hours later.
I wasn't going to push the issue.
You know, it didn't feel like it was my place, but I wasn't going to do him.
I was going to see what happened with us.
All right.
He got to him.
But here, here's the thing.
You guys are from separate worlds.
and the problem is
he's on your radar
and you're not on his radar
so when you see him lounging around
it gets onto your radar
where he doesn't really have a radar dish
and I get it
it's just it's kind of a new world order
and there's going to be
two ways this thing works out
two is one is
you lower your radar
sensitivity quite a bit and the other is that he raises his I don't know that either one of those
things is going to happen and my experience sadly it never happens although I never know why
like I never know why I can't go hey let's do a little more of this and a little less that and
the person goes great let's do it it doesn't go down it doesn't go down that way it's more the
you're not the boss of me and I'm I'm not sure I'm also not sure what your girlfriend thinks about him
in his lounging behavior.
Is she cool with it?
Would she like to motivate him?
I don't know.
I think she'd be, yeah, I think she would be open to it, but we've never really discussed it.
I think you two need to work.
You move in.
This kid's going to drive you nuts.
That much I know.
So we have to avoid that.
And then we have to talk with the girlfriend, maybe with a third party, about how this can work.
Because I think he's throwing himself into, he's,
doomed for failure. Yes. Yes, I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm also, I like to think that
there's the ability for people to change and grow, and he's not saying he's a bad kid. He's got
lazy, he's got some lazy tendencies like a lot of kids do. No, I get, and I don't want to lay the
problem at the kid. I want to lay the solution at the kid, which is if you're not going to be
the stepdad, he's going to become the problem.
Chad is going to be the problem because every time he asked the kid to do something he really
doesn't want to do and now he's 16, there's going to be a split.
Well, my dad and my mom, okay, who are you, man?
And that's going to be a disaster.
And I think you ought to defer if you can until the kid's older.
That's all I'm saying.
Step parents is weird.
I had two of them.
Or become the step parent.
Well, I never talked to my stepdad per se.
It wasn't really a bad guy.
I just didn't talk.
My STEM mom was sort of okay, but we sort of avoided each other as best we could.
It worked out okay.
Living in the garage over there.
It's kind of weird, though.
It's really weird once you have kids and you picture them, like, you know, Lynette, you go move over here and I'll go move over there,
and then you marry this person, I'll marry that person, and they can just go ahead and race.
So in Italian, just sort of be around.
Can you imagine that?
No, not really.
It sounds really weird.
It sounds bizarre.
And, you know, the house that you were in the garage in, that was sort of your stepmom's house when you get right down to it, right?
She ran that place.
Wasn't your dad running it, was he?
Oh, right.
My dad couldn't run a habit trail.
That's what.
My dad, everything, he just threw himself on the mercy of the court for everything.
So, I mean, he worked and stuff, but he doesn't, he doesn't shop or cook or fix or clean or he doesn't, he's, remember, he's worthless.
But I mean, I think...
No, I mean, that's his proclamation.
But to me, that seemed like a household that was a household that you were on the outs with.
You just, you lived out there, and the household went on.
Because there were other kids living in that house, right?
Yeah.
Well, my sister was in and out.
But there was a stepchildren.
And how did your dad relate to them?
Does he still have a relationship with them?
Yeah.
My dad's cordial with everybody.
My dad's fine as long as you don't have to have to do.
do anything.
Sister, was that the only one?
Yeah.
There was somebody else that was out of the house, right?
No, that was her.
Step sister.
Yeah, she moved out.
And did your dad have a relationship with her?
Yeah, but not, not, again, not, my dad is, whatever your relationship is with the general
public, if the general public is friendly, but you don't give them money or do, you
don't do anything for them.
That's why, you know, basically, whoever's in line with you to buy beer at a concert,
It's kind of my dad's relationship.
How are you doing?
Good.
Enjoying the show?
Great.
Yeah, it's good.
I don't like the new stuff off the new aisle.
But that's kind of the relationship.
But if you turn to that buddy and go, hey, I need you to buy me seven beers,
he'd go like, what the fuck?
No.
And then you'd have a bad relationship with him.
You know what I mean?
But if you're just talking about the band and waiting in the beer line, you're fine.
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But from your 19 at the time you're in the garage, 18?
I got into probably 16 or 17.
All right.
So from your 17-year-old's eye view, which is what we in the world, I in the world have of that experience,
it's hard to imagine what's going on in that house,
given how we know your dad, through your point of view,
and we have no idea what your stepmom is
because you never talk about her.
She's a nice person.
I know.
I met her on this.
She was great.
And the garage experience was garage-centric.
You know what I mean?
We all know what happened in the garage.
Yeah.
I just stayed in the garage for the most part.
Well, there wasn't any reason to leave the garage.
It's just interesting.
We, me and the listeners, share that garage.
shared that garage experience with you,
but I just started thinking,
geez, there was a whole household there.
But no, no, no one was in the house.
By the time I got to the garage,
the sisters had gone.
But there was still a, oh, they were, eh.
Nobody was in the house.
So your sister's, your step-sister's older than you?
Yeah.
I thought there was a younger one.
No.
Okay.
She was off to college or somewhere, but she was gone.
Okay.
And then my sister was sort of,
gone by the ninth grade.
So no one was in the house.
So that makes more sense.
It makes more sense.
I was in the garage.
It's nice, especially during the summer months.
Oh, yeah.
All right, let's see.
I have my cold shower every morning.
I think about you and that hose, bib.
Oh, man, I used to hose off.
I love that hose.
I take my cold shower in the morning, too.
All right.
And I can tolerate it no problem now, too.
It's weird.
I'm just going to let it slide that Drew thinks about you in the shower.
Yeah, I like that.
He likes that.
I like it.
I knew he would like it, too.
It wants me to think about it all the time.
The thing about it all the time.
The thing about the cold.
water. I was in the shower this morning, and it's not really cold enough because the ambient
temperature is too warm. Well, it's cold, but I have no problem tolerating it. It's like, man.
Well, then the bar will be raised during the summer, during the winter months with the swimming pool
through. That's... So I need to go to my pool? Yeah. During the winter months, when you hit that pool.
When I do the dunk. That'll get you.
Jump off those culture rocks. I'll tell you what I was thinking about. I'll tell you what I was thinking.
thinking about was New York in the winter.
They're taking a shower in there.
That's going to be...
Yeah, because whatever's in the pipes or in the ground is what you're feeling.
And look, during the winter months, Drew, you can go take a shower that's freezing as well.
But the difference is you have training wheels and grab bars around you.
You know what I mean?
The swimming pool is a walk out to the pool to...
submerge yourself in freezing water, and that is a whole different psychological component
or dynamic.
I think about that guy.
What's that, Gary, what's that guy's name?
The Norwegian guy that swims in the ice waters.
Wimhoff.
I just think about him going, I love the cold.
The cold embraces me.
I love it.
I love it.
Now, I think, okay.
I got to adopt that point of view.
If you love it, I don't think you should do it.
I mean, not that it's not healthy, but what I'm saying is, is you should fear it and hate it and
dread it and do it's it's the it's the uh adversity that you're you're getting something out of i
agree with that but to tolerate it once i'm in it i mantra that it's good that's interesting well
so drew are you are you going to step up to the pool this year yeah okay i followed whatever
you tell me to do rich 31 chicago i'm a heated to 80 degrees yeah what's going on
hey guys how's it going good man good uh first time long time um thanks for taking the call
Sure.
So I've got a couple questions for you, for Dr. Drew more specifically.
So my wife and I are pregnant with our first child.
Good time.
Due in January.
Congratulations.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
And so my wife has two sisters and her mother that are alcoholics.
Mom is a dry drunk.
One sister still, one sister active recovery, two plus years, sober.
the other one, you know, still in her addiction.
Is dry drunk not drinking but not in any kind of program?
Essentially.
Some version of that, yes.
It's a little, I, you know, she goes through.
It's a little pejorative for someone who's not drinking.
It is pejorative, and what he's saying, what that's code for, she's a rage a holley, she does other things, she's a little unpredictable.
Thank you, Virgin whore.
Yeah.
Is it what I just did there?
Doesn't feel good, doesn't.
It does not feel good now?
All right, dry drunk.
I feel the same way.
I love the cold.
I love the cold.
All right, low energy.
What's going on?
Oh, it's all right.
So, yeah, for question one, I'm curious, can the gene for addiction be passed through?
Okay, so I'm sorry.
My wife is not an addict.
Yeah.
So what is her ethnic heritage?
Really all over the place.
She's from Central America, though.
Okay.
Is there some sort of North American Indian something in there, right?
Yes, true.
Okay.
That's a gene that's pretty intense.
It doesn't have to be, but it can be.
And do you have any suspicion that she would have momentum with substances?
Were she to drink?
Your wife?
No, no.
She drank socially, but has ever had a problem with it.
So I think you can say with a reasonable amount of confidence,
She doesn't have the gene.
If she doesn't have the gene, she can't pass it.
Now, somebody like her who's...
Can't skip past her.
Now, if, no, it doesn't jump.
It just, it can, you can not be a parent in that person, but they still have to be carrying that potential.
Now, you can...
Well, I guess we're sort of asking the quite the same question two different ways, which is, can she have the gene and not be involved with alcohol?
Yes.
But usually people have a, usually the individual will go, the reason I don't know.
of alcohol, because I know that I would.
They kind of have a sense that they've got this thing.
But if you don't have it, you ain't got it.
You can't pass it.
And even if you've got it, in most situations, it's only about a 50% probability that's
going to pass.
Now, if she didn't have the gene but her dad was an alcoholic, then I'd be looking
at you to see if you had the gene.
Does her dad have any alcohol stuff?
Oh, we got rid of that?
No.
No problems, no addiction.
He certainly drinks so also.
Yeah, the non.
alcoholic child of an
daughter of an alcoholic dad
will usually marry an alcoholic.
So do you have anything going on
I should worry about?
No, no I don't.
Yeah, so then you're fine.
Then don't worry about it.
Okay. All right. Okay, great.
There you go. Hey, in terms
of the Indians
and substance abuse,
you know, we're not celebrating
Columbus Day anymore over here.
Oh, yeah. In Los Angeles Day. Do you think that's
wise with the abuse of the firewater?
Do I think it's wise?
No, I'm asking.
I'm just celebrating their views of the Firewater.
As an addiction medicine specialist, the fact that...
You mean, by celebrating indigenous people, we're somehow encouraging alcoholism?
Well, it's pretty easy math to do.
Go ahead.
You know what I'm saying?
Enjoy that math.
Mm-hmm.
So when do you think Columbia University is going to change their name soon?
They're named after that one.
Are they?
Yeah.
After Columbus?
Yes.
Is that true?
Spelled differently.
yes is that true
Gary will look it up
and then he'll tell you it's true
I know that I know that it was originally
it'll just go back to King's College
so that's what it originally was
so they should change their name
right to King's College yeah
listen
they wouldn't do that
you know what happened
why won't they do that
my college does not have its mascot
anymore because Lord Jeff
was the inventor of germ warfare
right with the Indians
yeah right all right
so problems over in the indigenous
community
right with the
Columbus Day gone.
We'll take a Columbus statue down,
and Lord Jess will change their name
to the hatchet barriers.
Yes?
Barry the hatcheters.
Barry the hatcheters?
Barry, but it'll spell like a guy named Barry.
Yeah, B.A.R.
Barry the hatcheter.
There's got to be a guy named Barry Hatcheter, right?
Of course.
Of course.
I mean, there's Terry Hatcher.
There's got to be Barry Hatcher, right?
All right. Barry Theodore Hanchard.
So, God, it's driving me insane.
But why doesn't Columbia change their name?
Probably because it's too intensely branded that way.
I think because they make a lot of money.
Yeah.
Yeah. I don't think, I think there's a lot of money going to that direction.
And they hide it enough with the Columbia because I was like it was intended to be named after Columbus.
Yeah.
and uh well not intended it was right yeah it was it was it says that it was given the new name
that embodied the patriotic fervor that had inspired the nation's quest for independence so
so there you go but they're not going to change in him but they should but those are the heroes
and the heroes point out what other people are doing wrong not what they're doing wrong right right
because they're heroes right that's the way heroes were right so we got to tell you how to live
your life but you can't tell them how to live their life
They're heroes, right?
Right.
So they don't change their name.
They tell you or force you to change your name.
Literally, that thinking is why Hillary Clinton did not get elected.
Yeah.
She was going to, her emails, don't worry about them.
She's her.
Don't worry about it.
She can tell you how to run your emails.
Right.
But in my emails, it's not fine.
Don't worry about it.
Nothing to see.
All right.
I want to be a hero one day.
What do I have to do?
Do you just start bossing people around?
Like, explain them what language to use or what they can do or who they should pray to?
Like, is that, or what they're doing wrong?
I mean, I just call everyone a racist.
Part of the problem is Columbus thing is people have lost track of the history whereby Columbus became a symbol that America rallied around.
It was, if I remember, Rutherford B. Hayes, I think, that said, hey, it's about the spirit of all the 400 years of advancement that started since that guy had the fortitude to sail across the sea.
They don't comment on whether he did anything bad once he got here.
He did some bad things.
He did.
But it's just about the spirit of advancement and 400 years of progress.
That's what that's, you know, they sort of looked at that moment as an arc leading to the future.
Yes.
And so it became something they rallied around.
It wasn't him necessarily that they were celebrating.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Like he didn't make salami, but it's a big name for a salami company.
Yeah.
It's the spirit of it.
Yeah.
Not that he made salami.
Right.
Okay.
I got it now.
I was thinking salami.
Well, enjoy.
I hope you enjoyed your 400 years of advancement.
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