The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #723: Would You Let Them Coach Your Team?

Episode Date: October 15, 2026

Dec 4, 2017Adam and Dr. Drew open the show talking about some medical research that Drew's been doing for an upcoming speech that has him very concerned with leads into Adam giving Drew his take on the teaching community. They then turn to the phones and speak to a variety of callers including one who thinks that he & Adam can save the NFL and another with questions about problem relationships and the current political climate.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Time for throwback episode number two from December of 2017. I talk about some medical research that I'm doing for an upcoming speech, and this leads us to Adam giving me some advice on teaching in the teaching community. Then we go to the phones. We talk to a variety of callers, including one who thinks that we can save the NFL. I don't remember that call. It seems like I should. But I'm curious to hear it again.

And another call out with a question about problem relationships, as well as the current political climate. That was 2017. Seems like a kinder, gentler air as wild as that was. Check it out. This is December 4th, 2017. Recorded live at Corolla 1 Studios with Adam Carolla and board-certified physician

and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew's show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on their trip. choice but to get on mandate. Get it on. Thanks for tuning in. And thanks for telling a friend. We love that about you, right, Drew? We love that. It's going on, man. Where should I start? Where should you start? It just occurred to me that while I'm working on a talk. I'm giving a talk in Atlanta like next week. And while I was working on it.

Who are you talking to? You know, one of those addiction groups, professional society of sometimes. I don't even know yet. I haven't met with them. I'm going to figure it out. But I started, I keep saying, I keep trying to convince everybody that the manufacturers of oxycontin and fentanyl stuff, these guys have been duplicitous in the opiate crisis, but they're not the cause. They're not the evil empire, you know, willfully distributing medicines, you know, to try to kill Americans. It's my profession did that. Physicians did that, right? And the drug I was going along with it. I'm sure they were quite not on. happy with it at all and certainly didn't do anything to get in the way of it. I like, uh, yeah, we have a new standard now where everyone needs to be a hero. Yeah.

Which is if you are some 23 year old kid and you work for Harvey Weinstein and he says, your job is to stand out in the lobby, make sure nobody comes to the 13th floor, that somehow you need to do prison time as well because you didn't go, hey, rich guy, who employs me, I don't work that way. I have a sister. She has cerebral palsy. And that just doesn't fly on my watch. But the reality is people kind of take a path of least resistance.

And the drug manufacturers, if you're going to hand them out, if you're going to prescribe those drugs, they're going to keep giving them to you. Absolutely. Their shareholders demand it. And they have an old procedure of, if you're an enthusiast of their product, they'll also send you out on the road to go give talks about it to your peers. Not that they'll tell you what to talk about, but they'll pay you to go out in the world. road and do this stuff. Then this is what they do. They're practice.

They want to make money. Yeah, that's right. Right. But that is not okay. There's nothing good about it. But it's not the really evil process in all this. I started really investigating the medication Suboxone, which is this self, the drug that's going to solve the opiate problem.

When you really dig into where that came from and the history and who's pushing it, that's the evil story. That's the wolf in sheep's clothing. And so I don't know. I've just been really bothered by that. I can't get anybody to listen to that part of the story. I mean, this company that was really down and out before they came up with that medication is now making billions of dollars a year, making people chronically ill.

Now, saving some lives, I'm not saying it's an evil medicine. I'm saying the government is pushing the shit out of it. Lo and behold, the government's in business with them. Lo and behold, the government's research is all sort of, there are many, many reputations are set upon this product. This product was allowed to magically eliminate one of its versions, a pill version, because, oh, oh, some pediatric cases got a hold of it. Now let's get a new patent with a film.

And we'll give you that patent. So you've got another seven years. Yeah, you get another seven years with this product before anybody else. And there are two other similar drugs no one's ever heard of. Because Suboxone's the one in with the government. You can follow the money, and then you can kind of realize that the government, big government, big pharma, big anything, medium anything, they don't have a vested interest in your well-being. They have two interests. They'd like to keep the natives from riding, basically, like keep people settled around the camp.

don't have people screaming and lighting fires and attacking other villages and stuff like that. Just keep calm. And then we'll just keep extracting money or making money or whatever it is. So the big whatever wants. This company, not bad company because it's British. It's British. We can't attack. They're good.

They're good. It's European. And if you look at the original research, guy named Janinsky that wrote the original research, he goes, well, this drug, we have to use this over Naltrexone. Because this, many of my patients found this. the most reinforcing drug they had ever taken. That's a heroin addicts saying, this is more reinforcing than heroin. Well, okay. It's unbelievable.

It's unbelievable. So back to my... Anyway, I've been doing this research, I just sit there, and it's just paper after paper. I just look at my computer. I can't believe what... I thought there was a problem. Now I'm just, I'm blown away about what I've uncovered. I'm just blown away.

Well, here's where the don't rely on Big Farm and don't rely on the government to have your best interest in my... just sort of try to make them as have the government and pharmaceutical companies have a small footprint in your life as humanly possible, which means they're going to have some footprint. You want it to be baby feet, not a shack shoe. So have them and do not be surprised when they do things that seem to be a little bit greedy with your well-being, not exactly before the greed. But people aren't getting the fact that the public sector has its own version of what the private sector does.

It's just the public sector is dependent on keeping you down, keeping you, having sort of maintaining, I don't know what they call other than racist attitudes, you know, that you people, the paternalistic attitudes maybe is a better way of looking at it. It's a kind of a, what they, it's, there's this kind of. deal, which is I'll take what's familiar over what's good. I'll take what's, oh, sorry, let me rephrase that. I will take what I know is assured and guaranteed familiar, even if it's not very good versus a chance at good if it's not guaranteed with a lot of people have that mentality. I agree with you. And they go right back to where they came from. And humans normally do that. That's why they get in shitty relationships and things like that and stay in them.

But I think this is more insidious. It's a slow decay. Oh, this I'm not. Of this, I'm not sure. That's what I'm talking about. But I'm saying just in general, we create the one I've been really, I had a, I did a long interview today with like Newsweek or something on colleges. Oh, boy. And I started drilling down on colleges and campuses.

and especially high school and junior high and I've wondered out loud. Now with all of these startup companies and tech companies and angel investors and blah, blah, blah. And I thought, but how come none of this is never discussed and none of it was ever discussed? And like when I was in a junior high and high school, we never talked about being an entrepreneur or what that meant to be an entrepreneur. Or there was Carnegie. He had steel and railroads. And that was like people that had stuff. But to be fair, that was that trend.

Now they're back talking about it again. You know what I mean? I don't, well, first off. Too much, in fact. Too much. No, they're talking about anyone's got a couple of ducats in their pockets, a bad person. Oh, there's that. Well, here's what I'm saying.

What could we expect out of a whole group of folks that punched out of the system a long time. go and decided to say, look, would you like a guaranteed $62,000 a year for the rest of your fucking life and you'll never have to work in the month of July or August? And you'll get two weeks off Christmas and then two weeks off a few months later for Easter and a bunch of half days. And you'll be called a hero. You never really have to go out and compete. You'll be taking care of her life.

You'll get $62,000 a year for the rest of your life. The people that said, I'll sign me up for that. are those the people you want teaching your kids about the entrepreneurial spirit? And by the way, what would their agenda be? You know, it's a whole bunch of vegans trying to teach your kids about nutrition. How often are they going to bring up steak? Think about where you're sending them. You're sending me a whole group of people who are above average intelligence

who've made a fucking deal with the devil to check out of life. And not bet. And not bet on themselves. I see it now. Your poor kids are dropping out in seventh grade. I hope so. I see it now. I've got it.

I hope so. I've been gravely concerned. It'd be awesome. It would be. Oh, it would be homeschooled by you. No one needs to be schooled anymore. There's nothing going. Oh, my God.

All right. The whole point is, who are these groups? Does this exist in the NFL? A bunch of head coaches who've never played peewee football? How much about the game would they know if they never laced up their cleats and even played pee wee football? would you let them coach your team? Because this is what's going on on the campuses.

You have a whole bunch of fucking soft asses who've dropped out of life, who are tenured and whatever else. What do you think they're preaching to the kids? All right. It's an interesting. Would you want this group? And of course, by the way, if you sent your kids to a campus filled with vegans, what do you think they're going to come home with? I want my kids to study science. You think they want to come home?

Yes, I agree. They've not been infected. Right. They don't come home and go, I got hankering for ribs. They watch you eat ribs and want to tell you about how meat is murder now, because what did they learn from the people that don't eat flesh? Yes. Okay.

So that's what I'm saying. Is that what you want? This is why I like welding school. Math and science. Or welding school. Your kid has dropped off in front of a whole bunch of guys who are really good at welding who are going to teach them out of wealth. Finally, you're starting to see that public discourse, though, about, about, you've been talking

about for 20, as long as I've known you. And finally there is talk about trade. It'd be nice. No, there's real talk about it now. Real talk of trade. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. You're learning a trade, man.

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I apologize. There's your dad. But tell me, just what is it that you want to do? We want to be free. We want to be free to do what we want to do. We want to be free to ride. We want to be free to ride. We want to be free.

to ride our machines without being hassled by the man. And we want to get loaded. And we want to have a good time. That's what we're going to do. I don't think any of that was written down. No, I know. It's what we're going to do. Peter just.

We're going to have a good time. We're going to have a party. To be fair, that was an expression of what, you know, our age at that age felt. It was all about freedom and shaking ourselves free of the man. That was not me, but I was a little younger than that. If you talk about a millennial ethos being about tolerance, that was the baby boom ethos, which is kind of about post-baby boom. You know, it's weird. If you look up the, this might take a while, so I'll give Gary a little head start on this one, but I was watching the chronicles of the Rolling Stone magazine and the four.

part series and all that kind of stuff. And they got to the part where Patty Hurst was abducted by the SLA, Simonez, Liberation Army. And later on, they, Rolling Stone got a reporter on the inside and got some information and blah, blah, blah. He's a guy of glasses and a weird mustache. I was curious, the guys have the weird white guy with the Asian mustache. It's too straight.

It's too weird. You know, white guy with Asian mustache? Who is white guy with Asian? You know, Asians have that weird mustache. I know, Chris. What's he talking about? Chris, what are you talking about? That's what I'm talking about.

White guy with Asian mustache and then weird frames. You know what I mean? It's like trying to make yourself unfuckable in the late 60s, early 70s. And he's discussing things and he's being interviewed after the whole Patty Hurst incident. Yeah. And he's like, you know, the SLA guys, you know, there were criminals, but they did bring up conversations, conversations about economic injustice and social whatever. Like you hear shit that Lena Dunham's talking about,

except for this was 1969. Yeah, yeah. Versus 2017. Sure. And she talked, he talks about like socioeconomic injustice and the calves and the have-nots and the calves, and the calves, when you go,

oh, yeah, they've been, yeah, but about this shit for 50 years. That's that. That's what you really make you realize. You forgot you think this stuff is 10 minutes old. most people who hear the clip weren't born when some guy was complaining about why some people have money and other people don't have money. You know, I almost had this conversation with my kids this weekend.

For some reason, I was thinking about it. And I thought, you know, for me, if 10 people made infinity dollars and the rest of us boat, or the rest of our boats just rose, I don't care. You're not going to be envious against the guy with infinity. Keep your infinity, as long as the rest of us get to rise up, you know, get to, our boats get to flow a little higher because 10 people have infinity. But I thought to myself, I thought, my kids were mouthing off a little bit about capitalism. And I thought, do you know, because of capitalism, you have a, and they're not living

lavish lifestyles. They're supporting themselves stuff. But I said, but even you have more luxuries than the richest people on earth at the turn of the 20th century. Your health care, your communication, the environments. you had, all the technologies you use, the things you drive, the Rockefeller would have killed to have what you have. And it's because of capitalism that this all happened. No appreciation of that. Oh, well, which is kind of weird. The first thing is no appreciation for anything. That's the first thing. I mean, if you

would like to be disgruntled. This is the time. And you cannot appreciate things and be disgruntled and you can't even cherry pick. Like, well, I appreciate this. I appreciate that. But I am disgruntled. You just need to have no appreciation for anything. Well, you're sitting in an air-conditioned car that you can't even tell it's running. It's so smooth.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's all part of it. And that's why it's not worth trying to talk anybody out of it. It's not based in things that aren't based in reality cannot be. Also, I've also just sort of realized there's no. talking anyone out of anything or talking them into anything either. Well, there is. I talked to about this a little bit before, which you have to be willing to address their

whole worldview. Remember I was talking about the flat earth theorist, my obsession with that? Yeah. That in order to deal with the flat earth thing, you have to say, you know, what else in your world supports this? How would you change? Let me tell you how I would have changed my worldview to, for there to be a flat earth and see if we can change their worldview.

All right. Someone's got a question over here. Hey, before you go, let's go to sit. Bet Online. Hey, it's Adam Carolla from the Adam Carolla show. Football season is here, and bet online is where the action lives. Competitive odds, spreads, totals, player props, and same game parlays. Live betting keeps you in it from the opening drive to the final whistle.

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What's going on, man. Yeah. Adam, we need you to save the NFL. All right. What did you like? I mean, you've done it before. There's a couple of problems. I got the goalposts raised.

And you know, Mike, it's interesting, it was an article I read the New York Times a couple days ago that was saying that the NFL's getting it from both sides. He said it was at a party. And he was talking to someone and they went, well, I'm not going to watch the NFL anymore. Those guys are in grades. They're not being respectful to the flag. And I'm just not going to support that. They go across the room. He talks with other friends.

They go, these guys are on the left side of the aisle. And they go, hey, I'm not going to support that. is they see the head injuries, what they're doing to those men? They're destroying their brains, destroying their lives, they don't care. Getting it from both sides. Yeah. Exactly. Well, all right, so here's a couple problems that I think can be fixed.

Yeah. With expanding the schedule to implement four by weeks. Four by weeks. All right. Why would that help? So, well, head injuries, you have more rest. built into the schedule. Thursday night football is an atrocity right now

because they're playing four days after the previous game. So if we had four by weeks, every Thursday, the two teams playing Thursday night could be guaranteed to have a buy the week before and playing in a much higher level. Yeah, it's good. And then you just, and then you have room, you know, the guys that go to London,

the teams that go to London, be guaranteed to have a buy after that, you know, trek, you know, helping them play better. I just thought of another thing. How about we increase the competition and bring more teams on? Mm. Making everything like Los Angeles, where there are two teams. That makes the product worse, though, because you don't have as many good players.

But, so here's how it's easy to implement those. So we go a week earlier, so you have Labor Day weekend. That's when college football starts. take away one of the preseason games. So now we just have three preseason games. Or get rid of all the preseason games. They need to evaluate these players, though. A lot of them trying to make camp.

You still need some preseason. And then just move the Super Bowl back two weeks into February. You know, nothing else is going on in February. Super Bowl. Yeah, I agree. But the Super Bowl just keeps getting moved back. But I'm all right with that. All right, Mike, is this your plan?

Mike, Adam likes that because he gets to, pressed after the Super Bowl. So the later to the winter, the better. Yeah. Wait, and there's a bonus. There's a bonus. So if we move the Super Bowl back two weeks, it's all of a sudden on President's weekend.

Day off on Monday. Nice. All right. I like everything you've said, Mike. You're a heady man. What do you do for a living? I run an event company. I like where your head's at.

I put on beer, wine, and food events. I bet you're successful. I'm working on it, yeah. I like that. I like that. You know, it is one of those things where a lot of my lobbying got the goalpost raise. But it was 30 years of the ref running under the goalpost and looking up and seeing the super unsatisfying ball go sailing over five feet over the upright. And all you could with a bad angle where all you can do is speculate whether it would have hit it and caromed in or carombed in.

or carombed out. It was five, it was multiple, multiple years of that, just to let you know where we're at as human beings. People don't realize the big game, which was way back in the day, the drive. That was Denver versus Cleveland back when Cleveland had some stuff. The game was won by Rich Carlos in the Denver Broncos, kicking a field goal in 1988 or 87 or whatever it is, and the ball went right over the top of the upright. There's no, from the Gat game from 30 years ago,

you couldn't tell whether that ball would have made it in or hit it or caromed in or caram down. Problem all solved by thin wall, steel tubing, and an extension of eight feet. Yeah. It took 30 years for somebody, like, raised her hand and go, we keep having these balls sail right over the top. Because when we started, the guy who kicked the ball was an extra offensive lineman called Johnny the Toe Grigowski. No, or it was like the quarterback, George Blanda. Yeah, whatever.

He put his kicking shoe on. There were no soccer sidewinders. And they weren't blasting the ball up into the stratosphere. But then they started. And the day after they started, somebody should have had a discussion about the post. But they never did. And they let 30 years go by. And then they did.

But it's weird. I'm sure there was a lot of weird distorted thinking about it's just the nature of the game. There's got to be human element. And the refs are there to make the call. And that's part of the game, man. You know what I mean? Because people will defend irrational things just because. No, you know what people do?

I'll tell you what people do. Because I've had discussion a thousand times before they implemented it with Bill Simmons, a sports guy. Here's how a lot of people work. You go, like, why don't we extend the goalpost? And they go, why don't we put a chip in the ball so we could track its flight? And I'd go, yeah, but why don't we put a goal? Well, if we put a chip in, then we'll know. And I'd go, yeah, but if you track the flight of the ball, but the ball goes directly over the goalpost,

how would you know whether it went in or went out? Why don't we make a square at the top? Then you'd have to kick it through it. And I'm like, or we could extend the goal post six. feed. People have a weird thing where they start, I don't know, you must get this your whole life. They start giving alternative things to whatever simple suggestions you have. Of course.

That's your whole life, right? It's my entire adult life as well. They're telling me how it is. I get a lot of that too. All right. I'm so glad. It's about time. When I said white guy with a bad Asian mustache, and I nailed the shit out of this guy?

By the way, I had that hair in 1978. White guy should not have the Asian man. Should not have the Asian man's upper lip? When was this? No, it's not 88. I thought you said it was. When was that? Oh, hold on.

Rich Carlos in the drive was in 1970. Come on, true. Let's get on the meds now. All right, here we go. Let's see what he had to say about Patty Hearst and the SLA. Oh, my God. Two years ago, the SLA announced itself as a revolutionary vanguard. Oh, Gary, you can't play the entire, the segment is 19 minutes long.

Oh, yeah, that was me. Sorry. I just wanted to show you the guy the mustache. I didn't think you're going to cue it. So I was like, all right, let's just try it. Yeah, the guy had the Asian man's mustache on a white guy. I did like listening to a little couple of beats of Earthwind and Fire. Yeah.

But you'll find that. And let's see. Question about PTSD. Go to line three, Sarah. Line three. Yeah. Line three. Sarah.

Hi, guys. How you doing tonight? Hi, guy. Hey, no. Hi, guy. Mm, yeah. There's my good white. girl greeting.

Becky Honkington. Hey, baby, I'm on the phone. I cannot talk to you about shooting letters. That was my name for the white chick. Wasn't it? Must have been. Yeah. Okay.

So I wanted to talk to, well, mostly Drew, but Adam, you too. This is a thought that occurred to me while I was doing. I got to have to go hide in the bathroom. I'm so sorry. Sorry. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. This is a thought that occurred to me while I was doing dishes the other day,

thinking about Louis C.K. and, you know, all the cavalcade of celebrities who sort of had a fall from grace recently. And I was listening to some classic love line. And Al Franken is a point two compared to everybody else. I love the idea. Like, well, Al Franken and all this like, what Al Franken did. Once, you know, photographic evidence surfaced, he totally fessed up to the picture that was up. The picture was a comedian playing a joke on somebody.

Fair. We're insane. I'm not going to lump Al Franken in with Harvey Weinstein and company. No, I totally. I'm officially insane. But okay, go ahead. I absolutely agree. There's no, there's no gray. It's all, you know, it's all murder one. Yeah. But speaking on that topic, I was listening to a classic love line where they were talking about a young lady who, as soon as a boy became interested in her, she became disgusted with them. She would initially idealize them, have a crush on them, love everything about them, as soon as he showed any interest in her. now, he's gross, I find him disgusting, I can't stand him. I'm wondering if we're not sort of collectively doing that.

Are we all so traumatized now? Oh, yeah. That we idealized everyone and then we have to destroy them? Yes. I've been saying that was coming for 20 years. I kept saying this reminds me of the pre-relolutionary France, where you idealize people and then you cut their heads off, then you knock them down. I see it, baby.

Yeah. Sliding the sheets and ladders board under the door. So, yeah. They build envy. They elevate people, they envy them, and then they have to destroy them. And I always said there would be a stage of resurrection. Because they'd feel so guilty for destroying people, they would allow for resurrection. Now we're not allowing for resurrection anymore.

You just strictly kill people. And I was listening to a podcast about Soviet Russia. Soviet Russia, they did not kill a lot of people, right? If you told a joke about a Russian leader, you lose your job. You don't lose your life. You lose your job. Because if you've been working for 20 and 30 years and you lose your job, that is just underkilling you. Just a little bit underneath that.

As the great Yakov-Smirnov used to say, in America, you can tell joke about Ronald Reagan. In Russia, it is same. We can tell joke about Ronald Reagan. That was Yaakov-Smirinov's a big joke. Genius. Genius. But we're getting to the point where like these college kids are, you know, somebody's 30-year professor, 10-year, that guy needs to be fired because he's not, he's offending me. That guy, that's, you're talking about somebody losing their livelihood.

That's a 50-year-old dude that's been working his whole life or woman, and you're going to just kick him out on the street? I mean, it's just insanity. And a 20-year-old doesn't have any idea what that means or what they're even talking about. And we're giving them that authority. But yes, we are a traumatized population. We are doing exactly what you're talking about. which is really acting out envy. That's fundamentally what we're doing.

We're just acting out envy constantly. Look, it started when people started talking about paying your fair share. I always vehemently denied that statement of you got to start paying your fair share, and then it just took off from there. I see what it is. I know what's going on. It's also looking at everybody as the punitive father. everyone's the punishing father

that either was there and physically abused you or just wasn't there at all. If your daddy wasn't around, we will make society your daddy. That's it. That's a big problem. Well, look, this is all less dads, more society, and we got an issue.

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