The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic #952: Adam & Jesus

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

November 12, 2018: Adam and Dr. Drew open the show discussing the reasons behind Dr. Drew finding his own name on one of Adam’s buck slips, leading to a medical conversation about Adam and, surprisingly, Jesus Christ. They then turn to the phones and speak to a caller who has questions about marriage counseling for younger couples, another with a question about caffeine addiction and more.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Well, our second throwback episode is from November 12th, the 2018. Well, we opened the show with me asking what it is that I have my name there on one of Adam's note buckslips. That, of course, leads to a medical conversation about Adam. And that, of course, then sparks a conversation about Jesus. The natural progression there. You'll have to listen to find out. And we go to the phones, talk to a caller who has questions about marriage counseling for

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about me on one of the one of them dr drew phone the heck was that hmm what are you talking about i maybe was making a note let's see halloween hunt so it's silly string uh my my hand is i need to go to a hand doctor because my hand is my pinky's getting screwed up my I'm getting the pinky screwed up my my my my my scar tissue and my whatever you and Jesus I mean what did Jesus have dupitrons that's why he'll hold his hand up like this doopetrons doputrin's contracturing that's what you're getting Jesus had that yeah because it was a carpenter oh um so come on no no I mean I my I use when you're when you're when you're When you're a carpenter, you use the palm of your hand like a hammer constantly.

And what people don't really realize. I would argue this is an insight into the medical historians talk about this with Jesus. His deep retreats thing is always like— Describe to people what you're doing, please. He holds his hand up. Whenever you see Jesus hold his hands up, the fourth and fifth fingers sort of drooped down a little bit, and his three fingers are extended. And that's people—

So it looks like someone. saying we're number three or something. Right. Or it's third down. Right. Is that third down? No, it's third down. No, it's a third down. No, different. And medical historians have postulated that maybe he had dupian's, but I believe this is the first time somebody suggested that insight, which that it's about the palm of the hand being used as a hammer, which is fascinating. Well, okay, so let me explain about carpentry. You do not realize, obviously, you're not using your hand to drive in a nail.

you have no idea how often you've got you know you've got your window unit it's like in in you've framed out your window you're rough framing the window unit is like in place you're like holding it up there's a guy outside he's putting like shims in it and he's got a level on it and you go are we plum and he's like the top still the top needs to come out a little bit you would never pick out a hammer and start whacking on a window frame it's going to bust it up and leave it so you end up taking there is no it's not like you carry a mallet so what you end up doing is you take the palm of your hand and you slam it like gunk and he'll go it's got to come out a little bit more you know you just there is no like you know once in a while you put a

block of wood a tap of the hammer something but for the most part you have no idea how much just sort of whacking, if you watch a carpenter follow him around for a day, you'd see him use his palm like a hammer ten times a day every day. How about the fact that back then, they didn't really have hammers, it was not shaped metal hammers, and they didn't have nails. Right. So he was probably doing a lot of that. It's sort of mortis.

How do you get onto the garage? Zip dies? Oh, yeah. But I imagine they didn't have nails, you know, mass-produced nails all the place to use. They didn't have 16-penny vinyl coat of sinkers. With a nail gun? No, I don't think so. Hell to the no.

And they had almost no ring shank. Only the king had ring shank nails. But you can imagine, right? That would be true. No, you know, you whack and whack and whack your palms on stuff like all day. And if you were trying to build something back then, you'd just be literally banging, literally pushing blocks into place and stuff. A lot of what they call it, mortis.

Mortis tenon. Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. That's a very interesting observation. well it was kind of you yeah but you completed it you complete me I wanted so we can have this conversation I'm gonna say me and Jesus have Dupetrans yeah mm-hmm sagging fingers yeah because

he's always he's always you know healing the lepers and stuff but his fingers are drooping yeah yeah and is that the hand that we repaired yes yeah well that's my palm is dead my palm is bad Like it's just constantly bad. We've got to get a good hand surgeon. You got a good hand surgeon? Yeah. You do?

I think so. Good. Can I ask the guy, if I get more hand surgery, can I keep my underpants on? That's up to the anesthesiologist. I'll send in my buddy. He wanted your pants off. He wanted my underpants. That's when you launch into the racist humor.

No, that was another guy. Oh. That, no, listen. Look. If you want to do hernia surgery on me, you can have my underpants all day long. If you want to do hand surgery on me, I need to explain to me why you need my underpants. Do you know why they needed my underpants? Sell it on eBay?

No. No. It was a potential fire hazard. Yes, I do remember that. I always love that. All right. Let's see. we got so anyway have a note that said dr drew phone and i guess i was going to call you and ask you

about i'm looking at somebody right now a hand specialist um god i remember i remember when i had my hand surgery also was like we need an MRI and i'm like you really need an MRI like we need an MRI and i'm like you really need an MRIs we need an MRI and like i don't think you need one i i have a cyst on my hand it's like well do it but i don't tell you is when you go is when you go get an MRI in your hand, you go and head first with your hands out in front of you. And it's really the most annoying waste of time in the world. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, when they hit the sounds like that. Yeah.

And then when they're done looking at the MRI, they're like, all right, it's exactly what we thought it was. It's like, all right, well, thank God we did that. But I guess everyone's got to worry about lawyers these days, right? Well, but they plan their surgery, you know, based on that or whatever. All right. Anyway, the guy needed my underpants. That's all I remember.

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Chicago. What's my syndrome called again? Super Tans. D-U-P-T-R-E-N-S, I think. I'll look it up in a second. All right. Yeah, what's going on, Dave? Hey, Adam, Dr. Drew, get it on. I love you guys.

I've been listening to you guys for a long time. I definitely appreciate taking a call. Hey, one second. Is your address at mac.com or where the hell? She sent it to Matt. I send it to Matt. Okay. Go ahead, sorry.

So, me and my wife have been dating since I was 18. She was also 18. We got married pretty early. a kid we have some trust issues um why mainly my fault um you know texting other women stuff like that okay so we wouldn't call that trust issues right we'd call that cheating well yes it's texting i guess i don't know if it's cheating or not or former cheating did it ever get consummated no it never got consonant that little beat there made me a beat well well Was there ever any meetings or their hookups?

Like, what is the worst? If I talk to her, what would you say the worst of this texting was? Well, she's actually standing right here. Uh-oh. Oh. I'm not sure we want to get this deep in. Oh, I do. What's her name?

Her name is Chloe. Chloe. All right. Let me talk to Chloe. Oh, we're looking at deep. Hold on. Do you pretend Trent? All right.

Sorry. Hey, Chloe. Hey. You've been with Dave since, like, high school. Yeah, pretty much. 18. We sounded depressed too. You're a little angry.

We started going to counseling about two weeks ago. Okay. Uh-huh. Which seems to be doing some good, but I still have some serious doubts because we've been having some trouble in general, and I did bring up the divorce word. So he says that now that I brought that up, that he, felt the need to reach out and see if maybe he can still find a relationship somewhere else. What? Well, it sounds like he was hurt by divorce, you bring up divorce, and then he sort of fired back or kicked back.

Is he drinking when he does these things? Most likely. Okay. So is he doing any other drugs? Wait a minute. When he does these things, I'm not sure what these things are just yet. Let's just see if we can settle this. So, Chloe, you sound angry, I guess.

I'm very frustrated, yeah. Frustrated. Are you angry at Dave? I know you're angry or frustrated at Dave, but as a person, are you an angry or frustrated person? You. You. I depends on the situation.

I'm very anxious, I guess, I could say. You have a sort of a coarseness to your voice or something. I think so she's coming to the phone when he's. I get it. I get it. I'm just picking up a little tone here. So he was texting with a woman, a coworker, a friend. Who is he texting with?

I'm really not even sure who this woman was. I did see on this phone at one point there was pictures and texting. And I don't know if he's actually met up with this girl or whatnot, but it's always back in my mind. What was the worst of the text that you were? the worst thing you've come upon um well naked pictures of the person he was texting with yeah okay that's a little bit of a weird one i don't know if it's made up i don't know and it could be a guy you know but still all right and and and how does uh dave explain these naked pictures he basically says that i maybe i wasn't doing something for him

he blames you for it maybe i don't know and how is it you got onto his phone and you were looking around his phone how did that work in the first place well i had some trust issues even before we were actually physically married and had a child um trust issues with him you know with him sleep yeah i get it i just glance at his phone you know what uh yeah did you have trusted like did your dad cheat on your mom or something like that no not at all my parents are amazing parents are amazing okay so trust issues with him but what was he doing before you got married that married 18 almost who cares well they're dating at 18 or whatever yeah we got married about 23 okay i don't know i just i would glance at his phone and i would see messages from girls and

And it kind of went from there. Seems weird that he would just sort of leave the phone around with that kind of stuff on it. I don't know if he was trying. Do you think he was trying to send a message to you? I mean, I honestly think he was trying to hide it because every time I would actually see it, he was passed out on the couch because he's, you know, he stays up late and I go to bed early. So I'd wake up in the middle of the night and he's asleep. So I'd glance at his phone.

That's what I saw. What's he doing for work that he's going to bed so late? Right now he's a maintenance specialist, if you will. He's just a night owl, so he stays up late. I go to bed early with my daughter, so. Uh-huh. Well, it sounds like obviously there's some anger here, and it feels like, you know, when he said,

well, I'm looking at these pictures because you're not satisfying me that he's got some anger on his. in, too. So it's good that you guys are in counseling. You know, when you get married and you date for, you know, you meet young and you get married young. You turn to Bill Cosby all of a sudden there for a second. Hmm.

Oh, you're married young. And babboo. Um, but bum, bum, but dun da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Who load? Look, everyone's got a lot of energy when you're young. It's better to wait to you, you know, get a little bit old. That's what I take away from this. It's like they're young.

I do too, but you have a young child, right? So here's the question you ask yourself, Chloe. Are you in this marriage or not? You want to commit yourself or not? Do you in or you out? I want to be in this, yes. I want to be in this. Which is why I brought up counseling.

All right? So you're willing to commit and stay in and you don't want to get divorced, right? No, I really don't want you if it doesn't have to come to that. Okay. Yeah, but you have to kind of qualify. Yeah, exactly. You have to take it off the table. You have to take it off the table.

table for the time being and say, I'm going to commit myself and we're going to get through this. Can you do that? I think I can. I just, I just, it's the what if. Like, what if he actually did that? Did what? Did what? Cheated? Yeah. Well, you have to ask yourself, can I forgive him on behalf of this family we're trying to form and get on with my life? Can I get, we got, we got, I mean, there's a way to think about this. We get married young. We shouldn't have done that. And this dude had some unfinished business and he's drinking and he's got he needs treatment clearly he needs some help and here we are we have this kid I'm going to commit myself to this now he has to work as hard as

you do and if he doesn't okay well that's that but you got to you know you guys got to commit yourself if that's what you want to do right okay well Chloe I I agree with Drew on behalf of your child right and and for you too I would say go keep going to the counseling try to play by the rules when you're not at the counseling and let's treat it like something you want to happen pretend you want to be certified as a CPA or something just do go go to your classes do what the instructors tell you to do and let's pretend that we want to get that certificate okay and stay with it and then but get him to he may need some separate treatment it sounds like each you may need separate treatment but we'll see you ask the therapist about that i'll tell you about life lock

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Oh, that's okay. Dominique. Get it on, guys. I heard some. of what you were saying, and I had a question about it. You know, you talk about being altered. You talk about, you know, Adam, when you've smoked weed, you get kind of, you second-guess yourself. And I feel that way with caffeine, but it's a double-edged sword because I feel like I need it.

I don't get a lot of sleep all the time. I got young kids. And I don't like feeling numb, and I don't like feeling not sharp. And I don't know. I don't wonder where to go. I didn't hear, I didn't really hear the question in there. that again. Okay. So I'm trying to find a way to not drink so much caffeine. Why? Maybe not. Because when I drink it, you know, maybe it's once every three or four days. I'm tired. When I start

drinking it, I kind of feel numb. I have trouble keeping it to like one cup, so I have a few. I'll feel numb, and then I'm not really sharp. And you're only doing it every few days? Do you put babies in it? Yeah, every few days. Because I try not to drink it because I know I drink it to excess, and I only drink it when I'm pretty tired. Okay, hang out. You're using very peculiar language as it pertains to describing the effects of caffeine.

It's not a numbing molecule. It doesn't numb. It numbs me out because I'll have, I mean, I'll have a bunch. I'll have six, seven, eight cups, and I'll feel like numb. Like normally if someone, like let's say if I'm getting in a disagreement with someone, if someone called, you know, I'll kind of go right back at them. But if I've had all this coffee, I'm just like, yeah, whatever you say, you know, whatever you say. I feel, yeah. Do you focus differently?

I focus differently. I feel, I think it might affect me differently than other people. I'm going to go with, yes. But so here's the thing. If you don't drink it every day and you don't need it and it numbs you, then why drink in it? You know, I haven't found anything else to wake me up. Sometimes I'll get a few hours sleep and then I'll have to drive for an hour and I'll just feel like, oh, I need this coffee to wake me up. I don't have another mechanism to kind of wake myself up.

So I'll get in this habit and then if I have too much caffeine, I won't sleep all the next night. So then this will go on for a few days once I start drinking, you know? Yeah. Well, what do you do for a living? Sales. Are using anything else? salesman using anything else besides caffeine no only caffeine very strange yeah well look we're not going to have any great answers for it here it doesn't sit with you well

except why not stay at three cups when it just yeah you're just gonna have to you're kind of answering your own questions here well this though this would you know probably clear that up dr drew i've been in a program of recovery for 10 years that's what i was going to say you sound like an addict that's why i keep asking yeah stuff so you're you're using it to all specific to alter. So you're going until you get altered. I debate that because, well, my first, I justify and say, well, I'm really tired. I've got to drive. I need it. But then once I have a cup, I'm like, well, now I've got to have three or four because I've got to keep it going.

So your addict self kicks in. All right. I get it. All right. So maybe you can't do it. Maybe that's just the way it goes. Here's what you have to do. Sleep better. Sleep more. And take care of a bizarre exercise in the morning or something and try to get your, get your blood going. yeah like somebody can you uh like do the cold shower thing oh yeah yeah the cold shower would be good you know what else i did i i forgot i did hot peppers so i was i had hot peppers that i was yeah oh somebody was telling me yeah somebody tweeted me phil i think tweeted me the other day that said have another phil have a shot of da bomb hot sauce i did that hot wing show and uh The stuff gets up to like $2 million on the whatever scale.

And come on. What was the next day like? Then no fact. Oh, Jesus. Drew, I want to ask you about me. Can we talk about me? That's something we never talk about here. Go ahead.

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I don't eat hot food. I don't eat hot sauce. I'm not, you know, I put a little tobacco on my eggs, but that's about as far as I go with it. You know me pretty well. I don't seek it out or whatever. But nothing affects you.

Did the Hot Wing show. Yeah. And I was like, well, this is going to be hard because a lot of people start turning red and choking and I can't speak and blah, blah, blah. It didn't, it had no effect on me. It mean you weren't noticing the hot or the hot had no effect?

I could taste that the thing was hot. hot yeah but you didn't runny nose or anything it didn't affect any yeah you see other people they're like waving their hand and they're like I can't go on with this interview because of what's going on

and somebody said well you have this sort of like high capacity to take hot food and I thought no I don't I have a high capacity to compartmentalize which is it's not I don't let the global

affect me as much as my mouth is on fire but it's not affecting my ability to answer your questions yeah yeah what i get that but but okay or i don't you're a heavyweight well it's a heavyweight part but it also as i'd uh when i did a uh i did a uh show many years ago i told you uh used to do a race car show It was a fun show. I wish they still had at Tommy Kendall's, I think five-time transam champion. They did this show. It's kind of diabolical,

but they just go out to Willis Springs, put you in a car, a street car, but a kind of performance car. And you'd talk to each other through the headset while you go on these hot laps. And he'd go like, okay, we're going to pick up the pace now. I go to pace. Or he'd go like, you go up front, you lead, you know?

And next year you know, you're kind of racing a professional driver out on the big track at Willow Springs and you're talking the whole time like you're coming up on your right look out oh you're getting loose you know like blah blah blah fun it was a fun show I think it was called test drive at Tommy Kennel

I did it a few times he said every time everyone talks until the car gets loose and then they shut up immediately mean when the car sits sliding yeah he said you just keep talking I said well because I don't really

connect that's a different thing with you I don't connect the one thing to the other thing. That is your robot self. Maybe. You don't have fear. But maybe the insane hot sauce and the continued with the interview is not because I've a, not because I have a tolerance for hot sauce is because I don't connect the car sliding with me talking and I don't connect my mouth on fire with me being interviewed.

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It says, is dealing with depression. thoughts of suicide what should she do why do you what do you think makes you depressed i just have been questioning i guess my existence in a sense i don't know how to clearly explain it has that been something you've always thought about um no it's just been popping up and probably the few months what happened that was different in the last few months i just um feel like him stuff yeah but why why do you think it cropped up in the last few months remember this feature yes i do remember the angry feature of the uh eight mississippi between syllables yeah hey Wendy yeah all right well if we have a good connection please uh answer in a

slightly more timely fashion uh is there is there been some event okay has there been some event in the last few months of relationship end what's your status now single married i'm in a relationship um long distance we've lived together before but work reasons how to go somewhere else and he works 12 hours a day. I have a couple, I have an easier schedule so we don't see each other as much. Yeah. Do you have anything in life that you're passionate about? I don't know.

I feel like I'm back at zero with that. Okay. Are you thinking about hurting yourself? No. I haven't. I just think. what my purpose is, and I just, I, I think my question is if that's normal or if that's a sign, like, I don't think about hurting myself. Yes, it is a sign that you were depressed.

But absolutely. These are all symptoms. I think there's a little too much on purpose in our society. You know, you're 30. You're, you're, sometimes your purpose can be wake up, breathe, walk, move, say hi to people. Like, you know, not everyone has to be Gandhi or Mother Territ. Lisa or Steve Jobs. You know, sometimes you can just be 30 figuring it out. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. The purpose is a lot of pressure to the word purpose.

What is your purpose? You know what I mean? I get what you're saying. But finding, you know, enjoyment, previous enjoyable activities, feeling it was called sort of an hedonia and worthless and all this stuff. That's depression. I get it. And you can.

And to me, it's always about friends and always about other people and always about engagement and connections and activities. But when you're really biologically down, you've got to get out of that first. First. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I have a really good group of friends. You're in Santa Barbara.

There's tons of treatment in Santa Barbara. Tons and tons and tons. All right. Go take advantage of that. Let's get that. But again, just friends and movement and beach and walks and everything, just everything. And again, purpose, that's a lofty goal we'll get to later. Yeah.

Thank you very much. It's just a feeling now about lack of purpose. That's part of the depression. Right. All right. Let me tell you about the SimplySafe. The Adam and Dr. Drew show is brought to you by SimplySafe. I recommend SimplySafe to everyone I know.

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