The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Classic: ACS #585 Dr Drew Bonus Episode #8 Pt. 2

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We'll just call it bonus episode. Very interesting. Again, a look through the prism of the past. It is episode 585, August 2012. By the way, we have our archives out there for people who want the shows, and it's every show we've ever done back to the first episode, February 09. And you can get 30 days, you can get six months, you can get one year. It's all real cheap.

Go to Adamcroll.com slash archive. I'm going to do a podcast with one of your super fans. Giovanni? Giovanni, yep. He has to talk a lot of shit about me. Is that right? Uh-huh. Does he talk shit about you?

No, no. He doesn't. He'll want to know shit about you. Yeah. He's obsessed about you. He knows. Mm-hmm. What does he know?

He knows everything. He knows much. more than I know. He knows much more about Loveline than you and I know combined. Which is weird. Yeah, but I like it. All right, this guy's highly depressed, someone has social anxiety. Let's just start with one and go down a day. Oh, please. Nadia? Yes. I think this is going to be very similar to. No, she's going to be too depressed. All right. Hold on, Nadia. Jimmy? How to tell girlfriend her vagina smells. Is that true?

That's very true. It sucks because I really, really like the girl in every way, except for, unfortunately, sexually, because it smells bad. Do you think perhaps she has an infection, and maybe that's creating the smell? Yeah, I mean, because she's clean. I mean, I know she takes showers and all that, you know what I mean? That I mean that she's a dirty person. I mean that she can have you have bacterial overgrowth in that environment that can cause certain kinds of smells, or protozoans. There's things that can caught a smell.

And you could maybe say, you know, you were listening to Anna's podcast, Drew was on, and we were talking to a guy whose girlfriend had a funny smell. And I noticed something on you, honey, and it wakes me worried. He was talking about infection. Have you had a pelvic exam recently? Yeah, cares about you. And also, oh, Drew, yeah, a couple of questions. What? First of up, this is why they make those custom greeting cards where you can actually record your own voice when it opens up now.

It's for this. They don't talk about it in a commercial, but this is really what it's for it. Because after all, happy birthday. That's easy. Get that printed. Drew, a gynecologist has to be a lot like a green grocer. You know what I mean? A lot of thumping and, you know, the bouquet and the freshness of things.

Any doctor's that. Any doctors that way. So when a gynecologist, you know, is looking down the business end of the Vigene and notices an aroma. He tests for certain stuff. Is that time for them to say? Do they say something? Hey, what's, you know. And then.

No, they test. They test. Because that could be embarrassing later if it comes back. No, I'm going to. So, Jimmy. You know what I'm saying? Right. So you wouldn't say there's a smell.

There's just like, I want to test for a dead raccoon. See a little something here. I want to test. Right. Right. So, Jimmy, you can say that, yeah, you heard Dr. Drew talking. You heard a little smell. I mean, you heard somebody call in talking.

about this and that the scent was associated with infection and she may have that infection because you have that scent get her checked out of it now maybe it will be something now we're very sensitive about that too so we're really gentle well here's the thing they're fucking sensitive about everything number one like if a guy had a smelly pussy he'd be rubbing it on his friend's heads while they were asleep you know what I mean my pussy really smell like I mean when I drive with Jimmy and he'd fart he'd roll up the windows and turn their to frost are on, you know, because he wanted you enjoy.

Yeah, he literally, when he was driving the car, he'd roll the windows up, and then he'd hit the lock on the windows, and then he'd turn the heat up, and then he'd pass gas. Wouldn't you caught with him and Cousin Salmon's going on? Oh, it's unbelievable. So, the point is, is if my pussy smelled,

I'd wait to my buddy's, like, fell asleep, and I'd crotch over their head. You know, I'd just crouch down and put my crotch on their forehead. But that's... You might put it. You might put it right in their nose. Right. That's what I'm saying. So, uh, but women are sensitive. They're sensitive about everything. What would, what would seven

year old Ray do with a vagina? Oh, Ray would never stop. He, he, as Pat Benatar says, he'd use sex as a weapon. But even if we're sexual, forget the sexual, just what would he do to his, if he has a man had a vagina, what would he do to his male friends? You know what I'm saying? Well, he'd be rich. No, I'm not saying sexually. I'm just saying all the crazy shit he would do. No, he'd be fucking around all the time. Oh, yeah. He'd be firing stuff out of it.

Yeah, right. Oh, yeah. He wouldn't limit himself to ping pong balls. He'd do softballs, wiffle balls. Even those big Chicago-sized soft balls, you know, the big ones, we play with no mitt for one inning. He'd get one of those up there. Absolutely.

All right. So, now, where were we, Drew? Ah, the vagina. Some women, the vagina's going to smell. differently, just like people's breath smells differently, or feet smell differently. That's right. Okay. Okay, now let's talk to Nadia.

I feel bad for it. Nadia? Yes. All right, so you're very depressed. Uh-huh. Why? What's up? Why?

I don't really know where to start. All right. I guess I'll start by saying that I have, I know I'm not dead. I'm still alive, obviously. You're what? I'm doing a lot better. than a lot of people. Yes, that's true.

Start near the end. There's a lot of people out there who think bad things about me. Yeah, all right. Like what? Boring call, things like that. I used to be addicted to pornography. Interesting. um it has really affected my life have you had treatment for that um i didn't go to treatment for that

but i didn't i i was in treatment for depression how much pornography did you watch um a lot i mean i would watch it for hours a day um and so drew that's one of those markers for sure monkeyed with sexually is sexually or were you exposed to pornography to young age yes how old um i I started watching it when I was, like, 12. Younger? Anything happened younger? Probably. Yeah.

The fascination and the hours of viewing porn sounds like that almost was the original trauma, the pornography. You know what I mean? Because the original trauma is a dad or a mom who doesn't supervise them to an extent where, you know what I'm saying. Let's be fair. That's what we are. Yeah. Where's your dad? My dad abandoned me when I was four.

Yeah, there you go. And he lives in another country. So it's really hard to communicate with him. All right. So you need to get some. My mom lives here in the city that I'm in. I don't think you can ever, oh, not ever, but as a young lady, daddy abandoning the family is massive. Massive hit.

Yep. Yeah. And it's hard to get past that. Yep. So lots of therapy, lots of work on yourself. Maybe some 12 step of the point. What do you do? Also, I'm also having another issue. I was, at one point in my life, I was a successful nursing student. And I've been told that I was being investigated. For what? I'm not

sure. What does that even mean then? She dipped under 150 pounds. I've been violated by a lot of different men. A lot of men came into my life that were supposed to closely investigating me and have relationships with me. They didn't really care about me. What does that investigating you mean? What does that mean? What is investigating me even mean? That's not a meaningful statement.

It doesn't mean anything. You had lots of guys. You were a sex addict. We know that. Go to the website satsh.net. Sash.net is a really good resource about sexual addiction and what it is and how it starts and what to do about it, okay? That's fine.

But my real question is, like, what are you doing? you feel like your rights have been violated. Like, where do I start? Go to that website. Listen, Nadia, you have issues. You have big issues. You understand? I know.

You're talking to two sane people. And you're sounding a little quite paranoid. Right. So start with that website. Would you please? And don't have any kids. Okay. Do you have any kids?

You mean, not right now, right? Well, let's give it a couple years. All right, but not until. you get your shit together, right? Right. Okay, that's all. Sash.net. That's all.

Look, everybody, get your shit together, then have kids. Don't have kids as a means to get your shit together because that makes your shit unravel more. Mm-hmm. All right. And then you have another person in the world whose shit is going to unravel. Uh-huh. Molly is seeing somebody. Hey, Molly.

Hey, can you hear me? What's going on, Molly? Um, nothing. I've just been seeing a psychiatrist. and I don't know if he's worth my time. Yeah. Well, now, Dr. Drew and I, I don't know if we differ on this at all, but I feel like the process of going to a therapist is an important process, and if the person is good, then

that's a good thing. But even if they're mediocre, at least you're going to a therapist. Well, I want you to know, Adam, my entire podcast, my inaugural podcast, is dedicated to this topic, is how do you know you're getting, where do you go? how do you know what you're getting, what should you be looking for in mental health people? I mean, what should the degree be of the individual? Most psychiatrists don't do any psychotherapy.

They just do meds, and people think they're getting psychotherapy, and they're not. Right. And if you're going to get psychotherapy, what the letters after the person's name? What should they be for the kind of therapy you need? And we choose to get a kind of groovy song for the show. I'm going to play it again.

Oh, right? Let's hear it again. Love it. Well, we figured out it wasn't Quincy Jones, huh? Peter Jacques. Peter Jacques Nice Who's that?

I don't know But it's good Hey Molly So Molly You're in a better mood Yeah You feeling funk here No I love it

But can I just ask a question Yeah Like I saw him today And it's You know A hundred bucks for 30 minutes And I saw him for like 17 minutes

And then he was like All right Are we good And then Part of me was like, well, no, because I want to get my 30 minutes because I'm paying $100. Like, I don't, can I, I don't know. I'm new to this.

Then say we're not good. I've got some issues I like to discuss. But it doesn't sound like someone who's doing psychotherapy with you. He's probably just doing medication adjustments, medication management. Yeah, he's, it's definitely medication adjustment, but I kind of want someone to talk to also. Then he may not even have training to do that. A lot of psychiatrists these days don't. Okay.

So I should go to a psychologist? Well, ask him if he's. Do you have, did you do a psychotherapy training? Did your training, you know, some psychiatric residences have psychotherapy. Some require a psychotherapy fellowship in order to do it. And some just get none of it. Yeah. It's kind of a problem right now.

So I'm saying, if I want a therapist, give me a therapist. When you're speaking to a psychiatrist, first question is always, have you been working out? And then you go into whatever business you can get into. What are you talking about? Establish a little physical, something. She's young. She's attractive. I see.

Just commenting on their body. I said, they're human beings. You know what I'm saying? Why should all be business? All right, Molly, look, here's the good news. You're 23. You're looking into this. You're way ahead of the game.

Yeah, compared to our other two callers that were, you know, the mold thing and for it, not, you mean, you sound really good. You know what I mean? Oh, thank you. Can I just say that to be talking to you, too, like I've listened to Love Line for forever, so it's very, I love talking to you guys at the same time. and thank you for everything. But Molly, let me tell you something.

Thank you. There's a great lesson in that, in that being with other people and having gratifying interpersonal experiences can really be healing and fill you. And just if it's in fact true that we, just talking about, it can make you feel better,

you need to cultivate that in your life with good friends. You understand? Yes. Ben. You get that? Yes, she got it. She's not gone.

I put her in whole. All right. Ben? we've got to go to Maryland to do a show in Maryland Ben Oh shit I punched up Ben Ben

Ben wants to know what kind of damage is done When someone To someone is a result of using Ecstasy Primarily In the We say a lot of severe mood disturbances Panic anxiety

And memory problems And it tends to be permanent And sometimes the mood stuff Comes on later too Like years later Really is a scary drug Hucinogens generally scary A lot of people have done a lot of ecstasy, which is weird because acid and ecstasy, man, that is a...

It kicks the shit out of you. That's a commitment, man. I mean, it's weird. It's like going, how many times have you climbed half dome? 1,300 times. Like, really? That's a lot of fucking climbing. Like, that's the kind of thing you do once, twice in a lifetime.

You're doing it every weekend feels... I mean, I know you're into it, but my God, I've done X-E. I've done, well, I never- You did shrooms. I did shrooms. And I always, I do shrooms. Shrooms and fish and chips. Always the same for me.

I always announced, why did I wait so long in between? I got to get back to this. You did some recently since I've last seen you? Fish and chips? Shrooms. No, I can't do that anymore. I have kids in a mortgage. I'll freak out.

You know, we have not done a piece of, of media since the advent of spice and bath salt and all that shit we got to get out there crazy change has gone on that's some weird ass chemicals but how people can do you know tons of hits of acid just i did seven hits of acid you know and did it every weekend all the way through college or whatever or same with ecstasy it's just it's such a fucking commitment it just i mean i understand smoking a little joint, getting a little high, and then sleeping in the next day or something. But this just fucks with your agenda for, I mean, well into the next day. And you can't go to bed that night. And I just, I mean, I feel like ecstasy's on the decline, but maybe

it's just me. Is it on the decline, or is that just me? I don't have any objective data about that, but I do hear about a bit less, at least not the heavy stuff you're talking about. Ben? Uh-oh. Oh, line three. Oh, what did I do? Oh, line four. Line three was somebody else.

That was twins, and we heard the twins. Oh, we did? One-month-old twins we were talking to. Yeah. What's going on? So you've done a bunch of axes, see? No, I've done it before. Yeah.

I just wanted to know, like, the effects, like, on your body. Obviously, the euphoric effect, but, like, permanent effect. How many times you've done it? a couple how many just like probably like two times in the last two years

yeah all right well don't do it anymore don't do it why not you need your brain for later well what is what are the I just want to ask Dr. Drew I don't know if he I just went over that didn't hear it yeah it's not good it'll affect your mood

and other things Yeah. So, and you need your brain for later, and then you'll be in a bad mood, and you won't know why you're in a bad mood, or you'll be depressed, and you won't know why you're depressed. You'll become a psychologist, so it's okay. Yeah, and then you'll think, oh, it's because I did ecstasy. Maybe it's not because you did ecstasy, but you'll never know. It'll fuck with you. So, you know, stick with the mangroia. Let's, let's be wise about this. All right, now the twins on line three. Hey, Jake. Yeah.

St. Louis. You got twins. Yeah, I got two girls, one month old. It's intense, dude. Good times. What's happening? Yeah. Well, I'm, this is my second night alone with them. Why?

Why are you alone? Well, my wife's taken off, but she does a teacher, and as her time's taken off, she does extracurricular things. Like what? While she's taking her time off, she's going back to school for a couple nights. Jesus Christ. What? She's taking time off of teaching and going back to school and leaving you with the twins?

Yeah, that's my second night alone with them. Look, you need to be man-to-man when you have multiples. Yeah. It's really overwhelming to be one-on-two. Why is she staying somewhere else to continue her training or to go to school? No, no, she's not staying anywhere. She's taking her eight weeks off, but she does extracurricular stuff, so she went back a couple nights to just kind of help with that.

I think you should really say, look, honey, this is not working. What does that mean? I don't get what that means. It's like she can't tolerate staying home. Where is she sleeping? Just hung up or I just got disconnected. Look, I've said it many times. The point is like she was going out and doing cheerleading training or something in the evenings.

Yeah. When did extracurricular become bad? Now it's bad with me. You know, it's like juvenile. Somehow it's bad now. Yeah. It used to be, it just meant you're a kid. Like, it's now in the courtroom, or it's like, and he thought that he could get away with this extracurricular activity.

Right. Until we found the phone transcripts. And then we realized what he was up to with this extracurricular activity. Like, I don't know when it became a bad thing. It used to be a good thing. Yeah. Now it's a bad thing. Either way, I've said to people all the time, you need money, you need square footage.

You need multiple TiVos. That's how you handle the multiples. Multiple TiVos. Well, if you have money, you can get manpower. And that's really what you need, manpower. That's what you need. Mama spending the night in a house other than her. Just she goes out at night, he said.

She goes out for these training sessions, these extracurricular activities. I know. It says it's third. It says it's second night alone with the twins. She went out last night and she went out tonight. I understand, but she can come home and then wake up early and take care of the kids. Yes. Either way. It freaks him out to be alone with you.

All right. One month old twins means that's your new extracurricular activity. That is your consuming activity. That's your gig. That is your job. So I worry a little about her. Do you not, Drew? Yes.

That's one month out running away at night? Right. That's woo. And that's why he's feeling so abandoned. She's checking out as a mom. He should talk to her about that. Shouldn't be sure she doesn't have a postpartum depression or psychosis or something. Oh, interesting.

J.R. What's going on, Jair? I've got a bad social anxiety, and it's weird. I used to be able to go out and get off the chicks and have fun and all that, and then now I can't. Now I feel pretty good up to the point I'll get ready and think I'm going to go out and try and meet some people. I've moved to a place where I don't know anybody,

and I'll get in my car and drive down there, and I just can't bring myself to go inside most of the time. Now, I will tell you this kind of social anxiety disorder, I have seen frequently, strangely, after heavy ecstasy use. Never, I don't do any drugs. Okay, good, good, because I've seen people who are once social start to withdraw and they get agoraphobia. That's sort of the ecstasy thing. But you've got it just as a social anxiety.

Well, this is one of those things, Drew. Tell me how this works. You know, I look a lot like Donnie Osmond, so I feel like I can speak about him. All right. And remember a few years ago, he, there's a guy's been on stage his entire life. Suddenly gets stage. And all of a sudden, he's 46 years old that's like, I cannot walk out on stage. Right.

And that's a common sort of. How does that happen? It's the way anxiety disorders are. Fear of Flying is the same way. The social anxiety can be the same way. And it's sort of like a conditioned or some circuit gets opened up or some conditioned response, and then it just escalates. Mm-hmm. It's a weird, it's a strange biology.

It just comes on after doing two. 200 million performances, all of a sudden you can't walk out on stage. All right. So after fucking 2 million women. So, JR. Yeah. And often they tend to come on and peak and then abruptly end. And sometimes medication, if you can sort of tolerate being in social environments without triggering the anxiety.

That's how I got over fear of flying. I had paralytic fear of flying. I used to fly a lot. Then it came on. I couldn't fly. I couldn't stand it. And then I had one flight where I had no anxiety. End.

And it was, I was flying. Did you have your dog with you? No, I was flying on Julio Glacius' private jet, and it was so beautiful. I thought, oh, God, but the point is I flew without any anxiety. But that'll work for anybody? No, I'm just saying you could do it. The other way to do is take a bunch of medication and not have anxiety, and it breaks it sometimes, too. So there's other way, the ways to break is what I'm saying.

I've tried the medication. I've been on all kinds of different stuff, and none of that helped. Have you been in Julio's, jet? I've not been in Julio's jet yet. That won't feel to fix the social anxiety sort of. But maybe he has one success, social success, you know what I mean, without triggering the anxiety. Can you force yourself to just pull over and go inside the club and have a beer and say hi to a chick? I mean, can you just sort of push yourself into that? That's what I'm doing up to the point when I get there. And then when I get there, I'm just like, I'm seriously almost sweaty

in my car looking at the place. Where, why have you withdrawn? from all your friends like where's your support network well that's actually probably part of why I'm like the way I am there was an incident like about eight years ago where I was I was a designated driver and a guy died and I had to I had to testify against a friend of mine and he went to prison and then everybody kind of turned against me so uh there was the designated driver was was drunk is that no I I who doesn't get a driver, one of the places they had me, the group had me take them was to a house where they bought drugs.

One of the guys bought drugs, and he overdosed and died, and then, you know, police who were to get the drugs and blah, blah, blah, all that, here I am. Oh. That was a night out at the bar at that time, and I think that screwed me up. I'm going to go with, yeah. Yeah, you were traumatized. Yeah, horrible. Jesus.

So you got a dead friend, and you have another friend who's in jail. who bought the drugs. Boy, I didn't know the guy who died real well. He was just there, but one of my best friends was one of the guys that had to testify against turned out. And then people were trying to do. One of those saying they were going to kill me, the cops were telling me to get a gun and concealed weapons permit. I love when cops do that. You got an alarm system?

Yeah, I'm getting death threats. Do you have an alarm system? Yeah, I'm getting death threats. You have a gun? Are you a fifth-degree black belt taekwondo? know if you've done any cage fighting at all? Like, no, I'm calling you because I'm getting death threats, not because, not because I'm Brock Lesner

and I'm planning on kicking a shit out of a bunch of people, people that are threatening me, so I'm calling you. Travel with attack crows and a Doberman on your head. But you need to talk to somebody, my friend, right? Yes. Do you have any kind of a baby step? Like, should I just force myself? No.

No, because this isn't really even social anxiety. It's sort of PTSD. Yeah, post-traumatic stress disorder. Yeah, and with agoraphobia, and that can happen. And you never dealt with the original, I mean, the problem with PTSD is it can become chronic, so you need to deal with this. I don't have money for therapy, though. That's our college nearby? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They go to the medical school. Go to the college. Go to the medical school at the University of Idaho. wherever you are, and, you know, they can give you a pro-rated or free services sometimes. All right. Nice work, as per usual, Dr. Drew. The TV shows Rehab with Dr. Drew Sundays, 8 p.m. of H-1. Also, the 9 p.m., by the way, the HLN show, which I enjoy immensely.

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