The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - David Alan Grier Part ONE (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: December 2, 2024

Adam and Dr. Drew are joined by good friend David Alan Grier and they discuss the Manti T'eo story and take calls on hernia surgery, women who don't want to commit and bits from days past.

This is Corolla Digital. Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to the Adam and Drew show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. Must get it on. Man ain't get it on. No choice but to get it on. Dr. Drew is here and of course, well not of course, but we welcome to the show David Allen Greer. Good to see you, Dag. How are you? It's great to be here, guys. Today we are really going to get it on. We are going to get it on.

A little some more leukemia. That's right. Oh, good. I'm here to say some things. Woo! Today we are really gonna get it on we are gonna get it on some more This is the more subdued David Alan Greer that was NPR man we He did he did the show last week We had him on on his Teddy Pendergrass and everyone went insane. And that's our new bit and I love it. And I've never laughed so hard. No, it's funny. I was just talking to someone and they were saying, Adam, you never ever laugh, but I

had tears in my eyes with Dag. All right, now time to bust some chops. We're going to take some calls, we're going to talk about everything. I noticed, this is interesting. Dag chops. We're gonna take some calls. We're gonna talk about everything. I noticed this is interesting What? Dag, I want you just to just to be open. I'm gonna be open. Be open. When I pulled in, you know, Drew I sort of study tells. Oh, you're nothing. You don't study them. They like they like crash into your sense I just need a little sample. I don't need the entire iceberg. I just need to chip a little piece off I'll put it under the microscope

It's like when I left the flu vaccines in the refrigerator here And you went well, of course he left it there. So you wouldn't forget. Well the key with the flu vaccine That's what it was. I said I said here's what I did be here's because Drew is busy and Drew is smart And so I opened the refrigerator one day and I saw flu vaccine sitting in my refrigerator right here at the studio. And then I saw a set of Audi keys on top of the flu thing. And I thought, now my first thought was who's so out of it that they would leave their keys

on top in the refrigerator. And then I realized, wait a minute, those are Dr. Drew's keys. And then I went, wait a minute, Dr. Drew's smart. Dr. Drew has a lot on his plate and he asked to get it done. And then I realized he put those keys there so he wouldn't forget the flu vaccine. He put it in here to keep it cold. When the show ends, he's going to dash out of here, but he can't get out with his keys.

Yeah, I figured it out. And that's what he did. The figuring. Now, if you just want a little insight to just just a little scratch the surface just a little insight, to just, you want a little scratch, the surface just a little bit, Dag, when he comes to the studio, parks his SUV in the middle of the parking lot. Just leaves it. You cannot park to the left of him,

you could, but you couldn't, your door's open, and you can't park to the right of him. So it's announcing I'm a big star. He takes up the whole parking lot. That's like his personality. Drew! Well, wait a minute, let me ask you something. You asked me to be on this podcast. That's like his personality. True! Well, wait a minute. Let me ask you something.

You asked me to be on this podcast. I did. Hold on. I did. I pull in a parking lot that's virtually full, but you're not here. Okay? To me, that parking lot should be empty. Okay?

For you. There should be room for me, you, and Adam. Yet, every time I come here, it's full, but nobody's here. Right. Why is that? If you park to the left a little bit more. But there's five cars in there. Whose cars are those? Okay, so it is a statement.

Whose cars are those? It's a statement. They're the underlings who I tell when we're crowded park in the other warehouse. I said people, not journalists. No, no. Now he's going to get pissed on your behalf. No, no. I've said this not journalists. No, no, now he's gonna get pissed on your behalf. No, no, what I'm, I've said this many times when we have a full... Oh, Gary's running out to move his car. No, no, you don't have to. These guys are robots. No, no, no, no, no. They're real mind control. That's all I'm saying, that's all I'm saying. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, man, you want you guys want to come over for the Super Bowl? You can't park on the street. Don't park in my driveway

Park two miles away, right and take a cab don't invite me to your house if there's no place to park I don't like going to meetings where hey come to the Fox studio can't park Yeah, he saw the side I would have gone past it went Oh, I like the car drew on the other, backs into his spot because he's in a hurry. That is so anal. Yes, to get out. You've saved yourself... And I tried to take the smallest spot over in the end there by the track. You saved yourself 3.7 seconds.

But you back in. So it doesn't really make sense. It's not a time saver, but you back in because it's fine. That's how you're wired. I want to shave every possible you're like a swimmer on the American team who shaves his pubes shaves his eyebrows shaves head and then gets one of those special special dolphin he does everything but work out which one will make you faster okay please do that no I'm just saying is that is I'm trying to add add seconds the point is this I pulled into the parking lot I looked at two cars and I noticed two very different things going on

And the others I'm in a hurry I saw two very different individuals by the way, they parked their car that's what I do Wait a minute. This is another pet peeve to compact parking space, large car parking space. But you put your car in the compact one. I'll tell you why. Because there is a law. There is a law. The local law is there is no such thing as a compact.

You can't hold somebody to it. No, no, no. There is a finite measurement for a parking space. Right. It's no small or large. Now, what parking lot owners do is they make them smaller and smaller in order to fit more cars in. But that is not legal and it's... But you guys, there is something going on there. Because I lately, I'm not a good parker. Like, I've got a kind of an SUV car for my kids and stuff and I park it a little bit of an angle sometime but plenty room for everybody to get in and out twice now letters on my car hey

asswipe hey asswipe really parking and one time my car my door open I was at the post office in a hurry come in a kind of an angle plenty room for everybody to get another car my car touched the guy next to me the old man leaned in and goes what are are you screaming at me? Oh, Drew, hold on. Drew, you're such a diva check. Well, hold on. How close was it? It was weird how he yelled at me. It was sort of weird. Clearly, he was having a bad day. I said, look, I'm sorry. And he goes, you parked wrong. It's your fault because you

parked wrong. Well, you're not living according to his rules. But I thought, wow, it's sort of a new thing to me. But how close was the car? Close enough I could get in, but I touched his car with my door as I opened it. But wait a minute, my thing is like this. If I park in a parking space, okay, and I park with plenty of room, but I come back and somebody is four inches from my car, I'm banging the car, okay?

Because that person has blocked me in it's not he's welcome to bang mine the problem was I touched his and here's the I said look I'm sorry I said you want to get out and look I it's my fault I've and now all of a sudden oh I'm wounded now I'm we've now everybody is listen everybody everyone is everyone is the walking wounded everybody you know everything's personal everything is how could you do this? I mean this whole notion This whole notion that you're pulling out and the person is coming up the street and you're backing up your

Your driveway you see them and you stop and they have to stop and give you that sigh that wounded sigh like hey, man What's up? And it's like, really, do you think this is a personal issue? Me backing out of my fucking driveway is a personal attack? Like, how much more internalization can you get in terms of society? Did you think I had a guy up on the fucking hill with a walkie talkie? The eagle has left the nest! The eagle has left the nest! Start move on my count! Five, four, and roll! And roll! And it's like I start rolling out and then you stop like, you know the people like, I'm backing out of my driveway. This has nothing to do with you except for a little weird timing. I see a Michael Naran cartoon coming here. If you were the guy driving up. No, but wait a minute in New York City

people challenge drivers Much like bullfighters. I mean I was surprised when I was absolutely with total disregard To traffic signals matter of fact when they turn green then they stroll Out in the middle of intersections. I'm surprised people don't get run down every day There's a lot of that, but it's but the but the pedestrians are at fault. That's it Of course they are of course they are you look at you like what the fuck is wrong with you Well what they're crossing the street talking on their cell phone. Oh, yeah dragging their kids

I see him on Ventura Boulevard on that sort of fast long sweep the big right-hander where it's like the middle, it's wide as shit. And they're looking down, it's almost, so Drew, this is an interesting thing. You know when you're a kid, there's a sense of invincibility. There's a sense of, I can do things that aren't,

there's no consequences. I can smoke all I want, I can drink all I all I want I can drink all I'll never get fat You know, I'll never get a little never get lung cancer. I'll never get anything. Yeah, it's a form of Narcissism in a weird way like I am a member of our system. This is me. Yeah, what could happen to me? Yeah now Adults are going I'm seeing 45 year olds cross the street texting looking down I'm seeing 45 year olds cross the street texting looking down while cars are going by at 40 miles an hour And by the way, the people they're driving past them are texting as well and they're driving each other. Yeah, they're texting each other Hey, I just hit this fat ass. Oh

Sorry, Steve, but seriously you have 6,000 pound Denali's with moms that are on prescription meds and a little cough syrup and they're texting and you're going to walk across that street looking down and texting? That is invincible, but it's me. Yeah. Well, that's part of it, but it's also, which is what's wrong with my brother, is this is important.

You mean it? Yeah, I'm important. I can call my brother. He has answered the phone. Hey, man, I'm teaching a class Well, you called me didn't you let him I'm like you call me didn't you I'm like you're teaching a class Turn it off, but then I wouldn't get your call Go ahead man, and then he'll talk for ten minutes. I'm like aren't there people waiting for you? Yeah, but you know, I just wanted to tell you what it happened in work, man Yes, don't pick up the phone if you can't number one number two

how about this person you guys know this person the person that calls you once every four years and Who you don't even know and they'll call you up and they'll go what's up? And you go Hello, and they go what's up? And you go, hello? And they go, what's going on? And you go, they should hear it in your voice, the stammer and the pause, and you're trying to kind of covering a little bit. Yeah, how's it going? Going good.

What's going on with the whole, they'll bring up some topic. What's going on with the whole Fox News thing? And then there's like a weird pause. And then a certain point you go Who is this and they'll tell you who it is you realize I barely and this person never calls Why not important in my life? Why would you not announce? This is the close cousin of the person who sees you at the party goes, but you don't remember my name

Do you and you know I yeah, I well, you know my name That's a game they don't they're offended if you ask them, who is this? And I do that to everyone because, yeah, I could be dating a girl. Hello, hi, who is this? Yeah, but don't you? Do you know how low my self-esteem is? I announce my name when I call my mom. Oh, I do too. When I call my mother. Yes. Well, that's not low self-esteem. I use your name when I call my mom. That's because your mother's old as fuck, man. That's why you announce.

No, no, no, I've always done that. It's courtesy. Listen, I do that thing too where you go to parties and you come up behind people and you tap them on the shoulder and they turn around and you go, hey, Adam Carolla, remember we met? I do the same thing. Because otherwise they're going to have a moment of not what's happening, man. There's also this one. You ever have this person, I've had this person a few times and then we'll get to the calls,

but we've had this person do. Somebody's like house sitting someone else's house or I've had people pick up other people's cell phones. So I call Bob and Larry picks up his cell phone, but he doesn't say Bob's cell phone. He just goes, hello, and I go hello Hello. Yeah, hello. Hello. Is this is this Bob? No, this is Larry a fucking announce it then

How fucking dumb are you tell me one better than that Sometimes I call the wrong number we all do you call the wrong number. We all do you call the wrong number Hey, man, let me speak to Donnie. You get the wrong number. I saw a click. They call me back. Why did you call me? Oh, that's a Cuz I just know well whose number did you call? I just made is just wrong. I messed up I'm I called the wrong person, but who are you? I miss that like that's narcissism paranoia I like the what number were you trying to reach? Yeah, really Quincy?

How much time do you want to put how much do you want to get it? Thank God? We live in Los Angeles. So when you dial the wrong number you just get What no no, you know, yeah, and you're like, yeah, okay. All right I miss every wrong numbers just a guy for the thick accent. I want to ask you some questions you guys What do you think happened in the man? I tell you I'm really in your opinion What do you think happened eat one of two things? Okay, and I can't tell you at which it is stupid or liar Yeah, everything that's right all with stupid or like that's right But is that a general trend in life or is that just for that case?

My new thing is whether it's Hillary Clinton or Manti Teo or whoever, it's all stupid or liar. It's all either... That's basically in broad strokes that... Either you're not doing your job or you're lying. And by not doing the job, in this case, they're like has to either, and the stupid part breaks down, either he's been so religiously like screwed down, yeah, that he literally lives in sort of a world where relationships don't like exist here. They're sort of, it's possible.

He may be a virgin. He may be a virgin. I don't think he's gay, but no. Right, that was an original thing, but I don't think it's that either. But he magically had a girlfriend right after this girl died wouldn't you? Yeah, and that suggests that but that suggests that he he was not so Primitive and pure as we might thought so that's one thing is maybe that's so screwed down The other would be perhaps there's like a some problem with social cues and relationships of a more

Character logic organic nature like an Asperger's type thing or something or like like you maybe head injuries got to him. Okay here's what I'm getting to. Or a liar, which I'm kind of leaning towards liar. Well here's what I'm thinking. First of all you got to go, this was interesting, when they went on the campus and they asked his contemporaries, meaning 19, 20, 21, not our generation, well do you think he got catfished? You know what catfished is. And all the kids said, well, of course, because it happens to all of us. You know, but he's still a great player. They weren't tripping on it. To older people, especially old middle-aged, you know, sportscasters, they're like, why would you punk someone unless you're trying to embezzle

money? Why would someone perpetrate this kind of hoax when they have nothing to gain? But there's a whole bunch of people, usually weight challenged, living in the basement with mom, who pull this off for no advantage. That's right. They call it entertainment. Well, not even that. It's a sense of power, a sense of all that stuff. Basically, here's what I think. You're 19, you're 20. Okay, maybe you're not as you're great on the field, you know, like you said, maybe he's a little innocent or whatever Socially you get punked by a dude Now you just told everybody grandma died. You just told her I have this girl

To me that alone you can't go back To me, that alone, you can't go back on the eve of the Heisman Trophy and go, by the way, my grandmother did die, I'm up for the Heisman, but I just got pumped by a dude who's been telling me. So he's so humiliated he couldn't do that. Yes. And I think that's when the lying started. He said that. He has said that, Philip, when the lying I'm I kind of believe that on some days. I mean when you put all that together

I don't think that he said hey, let's pow out Adam through you're gonna punk me I need you to be a girl who if you're gonna die cuz I know you're right So give me your own for the Heisman. I don't think that happens. No, you're right. Well, let's, let's, that's like a conspiracy theory which are always bullshit. Let me talk for a second and say this. Here's the truth. There has been, I'll tell you the truth. No, I just stumbled upon it.

You're right. These, this theory of, oh, he was doing this to get sympathy for the Heisman. They've handed out a hundred Heisman trophies. No one has ever tried the I lost my girlfriend ploy. The Samoan born again guy who is not going to be the first. He's not going to be that guy. Maybe a skinny possession white dude receiver, you know, a guy he can't stretch the field but he has, Welker type that you know first guy out of Harvard ever to be or MIT ever to be if I don't know if they have a football team ever to be now this dude the mid the Samoan middle linebacker who believes in the reads the watchtower

every night before he goes to bed this ain't gonna be the diabolical mastermind behind this Yeah, I've not had a conversation My brother said hey, man, these white folks know long time ago messed him up with the Mormon thing You know, they sheltered he probably he's not he's not thinking that way You probably get no pussy man, you know that religion shit got this here. I always take a call Yeah, I'm on the radio. Mm-hmm, but but by the way, you need to Yeah, it's true in the background. Mm-hmm Adam Adam my friends he said he said he's a big fan. I'm gonna call you now a man. All right, then

The catfish I always everyone gets a kick out of me breaking down catfish Which I enjoy but the catfish the TV show is it goes here's here's the three beats of catfish she's my soul mate man she her and I connect in a way and we connect in a way that we've never that I've never connected with another human being so we have we have an invisible bond smash cut to what she's fat there was a really cute chick was like you have me and this dude same deal he's a model yeah a foot model and he also was in the Olympics but he got a pneumonia all right and it was a fat did the same deal, like, oh, sorry, dude.

Yeah, they're always models to do a lot of traveling. And it's always funny, too. A roofer slash model. Yeah, insane. I know. And then it's so funny, because I've had ones where the chick was interested in a dude, and the dude she was interested

in was Scorpion. He was the male, he was the exotic dancer. I saw that one, the black chick. Yeah, and he looked like Chris Brown. And the other dude just looked like someone who'd be wearing a velour sweatsuit behind Chris Brown when he walked into the Grammys. Right, he wasn't big enough to be security. He was the cousin.

He was like a cousin and I was like, all right, he's a dude, he's single, he's black, he's here, you know. Yeah, he had four kids. Yeah, but, all right, all right, but he didn't have six back abs and that chick was like, well, fuck this. And I'm like, how far off is this dude from, he's your soulmate. Remember the soulmate? What happened's your soulmate remember soulmate You know listen I urge you I don't maybe could you hear you can come up as a Chris the tapes that that are online now

Did you listen to the tapes of the guy being the chick? It's compelling. Well, really it's very emotional. I'm saying I'm saying cut out Listen Adam drew take everything else away Just put yourself in your 1920 big-time football, dude You've been talking to someone you think is a woman you're gonna lie and being intimate telling the world Yeah, I got that. You know my bottom this whatever I get that alone. I would be I would be like, how's your girlfriend? Or you said he's avoidant. He's avoidant.

She got hit by a car. Yeah, all right. There's a couple things. David is right. We think like old whitey, which is what's in it for the person. Are they trying to extort money? You know, it's why we don't understand serial killing. We understand, I'm going to poison my husband and collect the insurance. We understand I'm gonna poison my husband and

collect the insurance. We understand my wife took a lover and I'm jealous I'm gonna kill him. But we don't understand just killing prostitutes. Where's the profit? You know what I mean? What's in it for you? This, there is something in it for them. It's an emotional currency when you fuck with somebody online. And I would argue that the guy who kills prostitutes gets more out of it than the guy who kills for insurance fraud purposes. You know what I mean? That's an even bigger rush for him. The thing with the Manti Teo thing, which I was tweeting about is, first of all, he

broke no law. He was engaged in no behavior that in any way cheated any rules, any collegiate rules. There were no drugs, no sex, no nothing. Yet they investigated this like it was the Iran-Contra trials. The vice president of his university cried like this kid lost a limb saying,. He's saying he'll never love again. At this point I'm like what the fuck is going on? Listen, let me ask you guys a question. After just on a national news level, just in terms of minutes spent talking, Benghazi

or Manti-Tale? Manti-Tale. By tenfold? Yes! So we got four dead people, an ambassador, and the modern, the sort of mainstream news, eh, neither here nor there. Not that interested. Manti-Teyo, that means we've taken a swing. We have four dead people versus a fake dead person and a guy came in second for a hyphen. And in more cares that's right who cares that's right can I tell you by the way I don't see I don't trust dudes who don't want to close like I you go when I was 19 or 20 I don't know what happened but I have some chick calling my apartment and she

was like I'm a nurse call your apartment what happened one day are you were you on were you in any way I was like public figure yeah 20 I was just sitting home broke with my crappy apartment my roommates and everything and work in construction making eight bucks an hour no girlfriend you know no nothing no game no money no nothing and just sitting home driving a piece of shit pickup truck And my phone rings like on a Friday night like 10 o'clock at night. I'm just sitting home watching Suzanne summers and

man from Atlantis step by step step by step and And a fucking phone rings and is this chick she's like hello Oh, yeah, and it was like it was like a wrong number kind of thing. And she's like, what's going on? Like every 200th wrong number ends up in a, what are you doing? It's like we're both sitting around and this is Kismet. There's no nothing. So I'm talking on the phone and the chick's like, yeah, what do you look like?

And actually, we're getting into it. And she's a nurse and she's 23 and she's dark-skinned and whatever and I said What are you getting in and then she's like? You want to do a little phone sex or something cuz I'm touching myself and I'm like, where are you? Maybe that's and she's like, haha. Wait a minute. It's just like that. Yeah. She's like she's like She's like well, I want to do a little phone sex, you know, and I'm like I want to do a little sex sex You know, and she's like you've already stepped it up. Where are you? And and so we went around and she kept going like come on

Just tell me what you're wearing and tell me I would touch myself and I'd be like, I don't Yeah, and I'm like, I don't I'm not now. I'm not and she was like come on cuz I'm touching myself now And I'm like, where are you? Where and it was and it it wasn't, you know, now people just call everywhere. This is back in the day when you got a phone call, that phone call was from, there's an eight mile radius where that phone call came from.

It wasn't like, oh, the dude's in Atlanta. Yeah, there's no, you'd have to dial a whole different. Orange County was a special fee, remember? Right, right, right. So I was like, where are you? And then I'll come to you, you know? And she's like, I swear. You're tricking me, you asked me. Right right right so I was like where are you? Never got so but periodically for like six months she would call me Wow What did you did you did you were teasing her did you ever have phone sex? No, I finally said one is he's only he doesn't trust somebody doesn't go right for the clothes

I want sex sex and so finally I got so finally got out of where do you live i will come to you and then on you okay she said uh... i'm over in uh... she's like on the west side she's over off of uh... off of will share whatever and i i't even driving around looking for her. I literally drove, it was like Vanessa. Vanessa! Honking the horn, driving up through like homey hills. Vanessa! I was just driving, she gave me some bullshit, you know like turn off of Beverly and go onto Beverly Glen and then turn off and it turns into. You brought her into the

car. There's no cell phone that day. You can't get on the phone and keep talking to her. You know where I was? You know the big gate across from UCLA, up off of Sunset Boulevard, where it goes in that exclusive Bel Air neighborhood? She was on some street up in that Bel Air neighborhood, and I was just, for an hour, driving in a circle,

just looking for this address for a street that didn't exist up there. She said she was a nurse, she was living in a guest house. I was like, I'm on my way. Good times. I've had phone sex but it's been like when I've been on location. But you knew the chick. All options were shut down.

All options were shut down. I don't really, phone sex I don't really like. Alright, so let me talk about another quick tell, by the way, Adam, quick one. How long have we known Dag? Oh boy, more than 15 years. Never mentioned his brother before. Oh no, no, he's not to me.

Now, he's come up half a dozen times today. He's brought him to Kimmel's a couple times. Yeah, it's come up. So you guys are closer in recent years. We talk several times a day every day. That's a new thing. No, all the time. several times a day every day. That's a new thing. No, all the time. Several times a day?

Yes. Wow. Why so much? We're just very close. It's always been that way? Well, it's been that way in the last, I'm trying to think. Four years. No, once he got sober.

Once he got sober and I knew he, But he's been sober over 20 years. I never would have thought over 20, 24 years. But I mean, it's all of my friendship with you. I always talked to him a lot and I didn't really realize until I started talking about it. But he, you know, he knows me. We share a, what am I going to say, a childhood together. That's just the way it is. I don't talk, he's the closest person in my family. So when your phone rings and you see it's your brother, you think good.

Usually, yeah, I talk to him on the way here. I talk to him on the way, what's up man? Going in to work. And he tells me stories about my nephew who's 17, which is awesome. Which is awesome, which he said, the newest one, he goes, well like I'm gonna go to junior college, you know, for like six months and I'm going to Stanford.

Well we almost ran off the road. It was like good luck man, love you, love you, good luck. Dag, let me ask you a question. A serious question. As I think about you all the time, and I'm working on my next movie You're you're my best friend. You're co-starring and I know it's been brought up before fucking funny But you're you're gonna be good. It's gonna be funny. It's gonna be good and The basic the general theme of it

His guys and there's a lot of them if you think about it who had a lot of success in the 90s when there's a lot Of holding deals and development deals. Like literally, people, everyone who's home struggling, husband's out of work trying to make ends meet, all that. There was a time in the mid 90s, in the late 90s when they would tell a guy like David Alan Greer, here's one million bucks. You don't have to go anywhere. You don't have to come in.

You don't have to do anything. Just don't do anything on another network for a year. I had a deal with the deal was we're gonna give you a script for a TV show but you can say no. We're still gonna pay you and we're gonna give you three roles in a movie and you can say no and we'll still pay you. I was like okay. And there was development there was development deals which is we buy you an office on the lot, here's a million dollars, and like at the end of six months they'd go, any ideas? You got anything? And you go, not really. And they go, okay, sorry, we didn't mean to pressure you, here's

another check. And then six months later, at the end of the year, they'd go, anything at all? and you'd go No, no, no, not really You like what should I do? It's like these two motherfuckers, right? But they like each other but they don't really like each other Yeah, they're cops. But then they like, you know Looking at each other right? What's up, man? What are you? Yeah, it's edgy, but it's also funny But by the way, no hyperbole in this. Yeah, no, no. But now, now those deals are done. Now those deals are gone.

And some people got out of it, you know, like my buddy Phil Rosenthal from Everyone Loves Raymond, he got out of it with 100 million bucks. And then there's others who bought houses and got divorced and didn't save all their money and so on and so forth. And those dudes have to hit the road now. Well, the darkest version, there was a guy who wrote for a living color, writer, staff writer, had deals, had the house, young wife, got married, deals dried up, talked said look, honey. Let's move to I think it was Ohio downsize No money no deals new baby

They found him wandering. Oh incoherent. Oh hadn't bathed in Ohio. Did they make it to Ohio? Oh, geez killed the wife. Oh my god. He was in the house Really? Yeah. Wow news. No a lot of these guys guys some of these guys that's the dark. That's the dark Some of these guys are killing themselves. I mean look at What's stand-up comedian who killed himself a few years ago? Yeah Platypus man, I will come oh Richard Richard But he had

He had bipolar. No, no. He was so mentally ill, unbeknownst to me. I mean, I've been an acquaintance of his for years. I'd always heard he was like, oh, challenging, but no one ever, apparently it spiraled out of control. He always worked, but he was severely mentally ill, from what I understand.

Obviously there needs to be that component. But what I'm saying is, is you are in your thirties, you're getting development deals, you're looking good, there's chicks all over the place, you're making tons of money and the world is your fucking oyster. And now you're 51 and the deals are behind you. There's no more sitcoms they're gonna name after you. You had a shot, all these guys had a shot. They're saying they need to form a podcast network. They would all tell you. Yeah, this is not, I think, Adam, you're saying

these are people that don't have the option, actually, to go on the road. They don't have the option. No, they can't do anything. No, what it is is Richard Jeni has to go back on the road but he's 52 and he stopped, they used it as a springboard to get into Hollywood and they stopped doing it at 33 and went fuck this I got a development deal, I'm doing a sitcom, I got a movie role. They didn't. know and now they're 51 and they're in Addison, Texas at the improv

And they're been there too. Wonderful strippers by the way. Been there too. That's my point anyway Oh my god. Yeah, but but most of the writers this is why they go crazy. They don't have the option They're fucked. I'm talking about people you recognize performers big names people that are forced to you know Polly Shore Tom Green guys that are forced to hit the road talents. No, I'm just saying they're forced at the road They don't want to hit the road They have to hit the road and hitting the road at 33 is different than hitting the road at 49 or 53 at 33 is different than hitting the road at 49 or 53. You don't have to tell me.

That's my point. You don't have to tell me. Here's my dialogue, here's my dialogue last weekend. Dave, you want another drink? Are you kidding me? I had two beers. I was like, I have to go to the bathroom, okay? Let's have another set.

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And we are back. Let's get right out to Bill. Bill, what's going on? Dr. Drew, I put off having hernia surgery for close to four years. I finally had it. And over that time, the hernia kind of, when it would, say, pop out, it would go into the right side, the right part of my sac. Oh, it would go all the way down into your sac, all the way down. Yeah, and I'd have to push it back up and then function and then push it back up.

I mean, it was a conscious thing. Okay, so I'm going to stop you, Bill, and just say, a hernia is, your testes come from sort of where your kidneys are and descend down into the sac as young and early in your development. One would hope. And there's like a potential space there that can develop, can open up and you see your intestines descend down through that canal, pop out initially right where your leg sort of hits your abdomen or hits your body,

and they can go actually descend all the way into the testes. But is it caused by what, exertion? Well, coughing. I got it from running, it's genetics. Mine was coughing. Yeah. Well, look, what percentage of guys don't, I mean, first off, how come every historical figure who died after 40 didn't die of this? Because every single time I say to a guy, I had the hernia surgery, they go, oh yeah, me too. And I talked to 28 year old guys, they're like, oh yeah, I had it, I had it twice.

But what would they used to do? Would it heal itself or something? They'd probably wear trusses back then. They'd wear, they probably wore trusses. Well how does it feel when the hernia, when the hernia, the dookie pipe busts through? I buy the, you would. Does it hurt though?

I would. Not usually, not till it gets better. If I was an entrepreneur, like in the 16, 17 hundreds, I would marry the merc what gets if I was an entrepreneur like in the you know, 1617 hundreds I would marry the mercantil with the truss So that would be like my that would be like working. Yeah my target it'd be like what pert is to shampoo Yeah, you know what? I mean, this is the shampoo and conditioner combined. You know, I mean this is Jack cream. Yeah, this is Mercant and hernia trust combined. I'd sell them.

And for women, you can add a strap on if you wanted, right? Slow down. Does it, you're saying when the hernia pop, does it always, once it pops out, does it go in and out? You understand what I'm saying? Yes. Mine was just out. Okay.

Oh, you couldn't push it back. I could push it back in, but it would come right back out. But were you in pain? I had symptoms that surprised me. Pain is when it strangulates, when it actually come right back out. But were you in pain? I had symptoms that surprised me. Pain is when it strangulates, when it actually cuts its own blood supply off, and that's an emergency. But I had a weird, like, weakness and pulling feeling. It was a strange...

Like premenstrual? Yeah, kind of like... You said your breasts were sagging? No, sort of like... Your ovaries? Sort of like my chronic fatigue, like my Epsom bar. By the way, let's take a commercial break. No.

Wait a minute. Yes. Chronic fatigue, was that real? No. It was real. No, Epstein-Barr had very little to do with it. Everything is due with it. Everything, look.

Was it real? Yes, it was real. Because it went away. But wait a minute. In the 80s, everybody had share, had it, people's cold careers were put on. All of a sudden it went away Here's let me explain something. There is something picture a wheel picture spokes going to the wheel picture the hub of the wheel called depression hub and now all the spokes all

The roads leading from that turns into Epstein bar turns fatigue turns into chronic fatigue, turns into everything, even lots of food-borne allergies and a lot of environmental allergies. The hub, the nuclei, that is depression and narcissism and everything else leads from there. There is a kid, I think his name was Aaron Schwartz or whatever, he's an internet genius. This guy at 22 or something designed these internet genius. This guy at 22 or something designed these internet platforms. He recently killed himself because the government was going to

indict him. Now all of his internet nerd friends said you know the government, the man killed him because he was such a sensitive genius that they pushed him to commit suicide. What they forgot to say is that he for years battled severe depression and my whole thing is yes, he was being hounded by the government, but there's two ways to go out. Julian Assange, fine. He's living in a big ass house. That's right. Wicked ladies.

Fucking everybody. That's right. Putting out little video podcasts, living it up. Fuck you, you'll never catch me. This kid took himself out because he had a disease called depression, which is right. If I told you, I don't have any energy, Dr. Drew, I can't even work.

I just wanna sleep all day. Where are you even gonna let me finish the sentence? No, you go, you're depressed. You're depressed, you're depressed. I bet patients get enraged when I do that. Well, because they're depressed, they don't really get enraged. They go, I'm sorry. No, no, they get enraged. We've talked about this all the time. Let me I bet patients get in rage when I do that First off our news is not interested in

matters of psychology It's always gay teen jumps off bridge because he was cyberbullied That's much better than this guy had low-grade depression that turned into something more and that's why he killed himself. Well, what about this? Newtown. Okay, there really was no more news. A tragedy happens. We knew this many people were brutally and horribly slaughtered.

That's the story. Yeah. But for a month after that, why did he do it? Yeah. But what made him do it? Yeah. He was possessed by the story. But for a month after that, why did he do it? But what made him do it? Did you read his e-mail? No, but why did he do it? Because he was fucking crazy! That's why he did it. Nobody says that. But people don't know how to think about it. There are certain things that predispose to that. Because a doctor gets those patients sometimes after or before they kill, and there's a diagnostic workup. You can fit this into diagnoses quite nicely.

Well, even like the Colorado shooter, did you see a picture of him with the pink hair, crazy eye? He's a nut job. That's why he did it. Well, and then the notion of, well, the way to keep kids from jumping off bridges when they're freshmen in college is to eliminate roommates who cyber bully them or to eliminate hunting rifles or whatever it is. Or video games. Or video games. You're going the wrong direction with this.

You're starting at the back of the problem when you should start at the front. Mental illness needs to be addressed. Well there's no, here's the sad part. There is no safety net. Now within this room, we all live together as roommates and Dr. Drew, you totally go off on the nut. That's a VH1 show right there. But you hear what I'm saying? If you have a son or daughter, I mean I've seen these people where a woman, a woman, her son came to her and said, look mom, I know there's something wrong with me. I'm hurting animals. I have fantasies of hurting women. He was

14 or 15. She went to everyone. And the response was, well, what has he done? We can't do anything. There is no safety net. There is no mental health safety net. Oh, well, that's a thousand percent David. So that, in my opinion, that's the issue that is the real issue. Oh, and then within that there's a sub sub story, which is privacy laws are so prohibitive and so onerous that you can't ask somebody why you when they come to buy a gun or something. Have you ever been suicidal? If you're going to hurt somebody, you can't ask those. And then if I know it as a doctor, I can't tell anybody.

I can't wait to hear what that poor psychiatrist in color Has to say about how she was stuck Unable to intervene on this kid and knew there was something potentially going to happen and the mother was a prepper duvall Duvall are you black? Wait, we didn't finish with bill. Well, I didn't know Yeah, get it fixed. Drew, you want to tell the story about what a Viking I am and what a pussy you are when we have the exact same procedure? I heard this.

Yeah, I heard about this. I was just destroyed by the hernia operation. I could not move for three days. And then when I was getting it, I was saying, well, I'm getting it on a Friday in the evening earlier, four or five in the afternoon. And then I said, I'll see you Sunday night at work, and Drew said, oh no, you won't. Oh no, you won't, you're gonna be bed for a week.

He was laughing, you're gonna be writhing in pain. I don't know what kind of doctor laughs at another man's pain, but he laughed. You go, oh, you're gonna be, he came to the hospital on Friday when he was putting me under. I came and saw him, and you wanna talk about what you did with the anesthesiologist? Sure. Go ahead. I was the one that was going under so I don't remember much. Well, put Teddy Pendergrass on the tag team. He said he lived

near me with my neighbor. He was busting my chops though, to be fair to me. Drew or the anesthesiologist? The anesthesiologist. And what did you say to him? There goes the neighborhood. Because he was, I don't know what it was, it was something he was something and Adam goes full into it On him as he as he's to get taught I was waiting to be there It's the only time I'm gonna be I'm gonna be making sure you survive this operation I'm going to be making sure you divide with I don't know he was he was black. What was make Jamaican? He was something what you know one of the Jamaican Indian something The point is

All came out and all that evil Xanax the point is the point is the point is you on Xanax now? Cuz it's coming out the following I Had the surgery on a Friday evening I had a home probably about eight eight in the evening on Friday, and I woke up at six a.m. Saturday morning, and my wife said, where are you going? And I said, I'm going to the house I was working on, and she said, what are you doing? And I said, I'm hanging doors.

And I just got up, and I said, she said, what are you doing? And I said, I feel great. And she said, you just had the surgery, and I said, if I was hurting myself, I would feel it. My body would tell me, sit back down. Get back. You know, when you stand up and you go, oh shit, you know, your body lets you know whether you're nauseous or you have a pulled muscle.

Your body will tell you, sit back down. My body said, I feel great. I knew that I was 24, that's 24 hours later. But that time I was having violent Rigers and couldn't stand up. I had pneumonia. I had pneumonia when I was doing Porgy and Bess before we came to New York. Never missed a show. Viking.

I like that. Until I went to the doctor when I started, my lungs were rattling. I could tell they were filling up. I didn't want to go to the doctor because I knew I'd never had pneumonia before, but I knew. I knew that night. I was like, well, if I go in, it was right when we were opening opening And I go to the Harvard Health Center. He said well you have pneumonia. I'm gonna check just to make sure dude Yeah, you have pneumonia never missed a shot. I didn't tell anybody till long after how do you sing with pneumonia?

Just saying man. You're tired. I felt like when I came on stage like Yes, I had Epstein-Parr. I'm with you. I was dead listen I the psychological work I, my son is home sick from school today, I just had that thing with my wife where she's like, I'm just worried that we're all gonna get, and I just go, I don't get sick. And she goes, yeah, I'm just worried that he's gonna get everyone. I go, you don't get it. I don't get sick. No, I get sick. I get sick all the time. But I don't doesn't mean you have to shut it down Is a good friend, right? Yeah. Yeah, he came he watched him porky best for sure. He came outside

Oh, try I'm all right. Oh, no, wait a minute. I saw him twice and my family saw him Oh, yeah, but you didn't see race. It's a black ass race is powerful Hockey that's look at me motherfucker It was good that's right. Look at me motherfucker That's right, I bought him a drink afterward and he got me one ticket well Broadway's different Let's take some call All right Duval What's going on Duval are you black or white I am black Hey, David Allen Grier, just want to say hello, big fan of a funky finger production, someone living color was watching that the other day.

Duval, are you black or white? I am black. That's right, because you know what? Duval, that's a black name. It is. That's right. Don't make me call Duval. There's no apostrophe there.

There's no apostrophe. Adam, make me call Duval, man. No, no. Talk to Duval like that. Yeah, no. I don't. No, I'm going to call him right now. You want me to call him? No, no. I only raised my voice to you because I'm myself. I'm a present

I was upset. Let's let's let's let's calm. I wish yelling at myself. Let's calm down. Not at you, especially not Duvall No, make me go And Adam and dr. Drew been watching the show since I was a kid and that's probably why I'm so fucked up But I have a question for you. Thank you Yeah, no worries Were women less emotionally unavailable back in your day because I'm 26 and I feel like all girls today are completely horrified and petrified the intelligent girls of Labels being in a relationship, especially the girls with daddy issues because those are the ones that tend to date What's going on? I mean our word girl. Could you go to a girl back in the day and say, hey, let's

be boyfriend and girlfriend just like that or is it different now? Well, one thing I noticed that younger people, they had an article in the Times about this, people don't date. Yeah, that's what Drew always says. People don't date. As a matter of fact, I realized that's how, you know, I don't, what am I trying to say? I've dated a lot of women that were a lot younger than me. What? And, but here's the deal, because a 26 year old dude is not gonna do what all of us would

do, which is, I'm gonna pick you up, nice clean car, I'm gonna come to the door, dress nice, smell good, take a hand, you know, treat them like a lady. Right. Open the door, you know, call you, romance you. No, they don't get that. They get a text at 11. A lot of these chicks go, they don't even want to say it's a date.

We'll go out with a bunch of friends. I mean, the whole paradigm has shifted. I don't know what to tell them. Well, you know, I'm seeing this girl, and you know, exactly, we're just hanging out. I can't call it a date. If I call it a date, I'm too clingy, you know? Can I ask? out i can't call it a day of a call today don't you believe you know kick him as a duvall are you are you are you talking

yet but what do you complain about that but you remind me of my black buddy to vigorous lover the vigorous love love the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the You text her and does she come over? How do you get her to come over so you can hit that ass? What I do is I say, hey, what are you doing right now? Bring over some wine, let's watch, it's always sunny in Philadelphia. But do you text her or do you call her? You text her. What are you fucking complaining about?

This is the call we get? I have a black chef friend Which is the gluten-free? The glutenous the glutenous free to go to that restaurant And I have a black friend is defying all the odds I have a black friend is defying all the odds. He plays but I can't he can't you spelled f u r e Free he came from long side tracks single mother

as nine brothers and sisters But librarian Booker is doing great now. He focused he didn't run with the gangs But doesn't do will not read a book Librarian book wait Duval. What do you want you? Here's the problem. Here's the problem I have to spend so much energy pretending that I'm not interested in her that it completely fucks my shit up like Fuck me a river Duval you're getting late. Okay, here's here. Can I can I please can I put this thought out? Yeah out to the table dig dig Can I please can I put this thought out to the table dig dig?

There used to be an endgame for women with them an endgame Did you rent that is that the endgame was I would like to get married? I would like to start a family so somewhere around I mean starting from the beginning You know nine-year-old girls going this is my wedding dress, and I'm in mommy's high heels and all that kind of shit Daughters five and she goes I got married today. Yeah and there was a path, that path to marry it was find the man, find the right man, weed out you know the flaky guys, find a guy who'd make a good father to my children, marry them, start a family, take care of the family. Now it's everything is one of these tampon commercials where I'm doing my own thing.

I'm kickboxing, I'm mountain biking. I'm not gonna let anything slow me down. I'm doing my own thing. So every commercial and every message that's sent to a woman, there's no commercials. Think about all those commercials for Valtrax or tampons or anything. None of them show a woman shopping for dresses or going, I'm gonna make a meal for my man. No, they're kickboxing, they're tagging a wall, they're out with their friends. I've never dated those women though.

Adam, every woman I've dated has been like, immediately, where is this going? What does this mean? All right, well that's where they're at. I wanna lock you down. That's where they're really, that's what they're wired for, but they're really being pushed by our society to go, you don't need a man, you can do anything you want. You can be a lawyer, you can be the president, you can run a kickboxing academy,

you do your own thing. So this notion of like hooking up and being a girlfriend is one step away from being a bride and two steps away from being a mother and that's not the message that's being sent. Well let's be clear also that most families are a mess. What does that mean? Most dads absent or abusive and those women... There could be two dads. And those women are two moms. Are very scared of relationships. Or two moms and dads. And that's what Duval's into. He said he likes the women with daddy issues. Well there you go. But wait, there's another thing another thing Duval if you want her to be your girlfriend Call her on her shit. Yeah, treat her like she is not your girlfriend flagrantly just hang out hit that ass

Devoid all emotional contact. So be a lot me. Okay. No, don't be abused. Don't get anyone pregnant. Don't be abusive Don't be abusive. Just don't be The boyfriend dude, she will run to you I know but then what he actually wants when it tries to switch it to relationships or run away again Well, they're done her and get some chick who doesn't have daddy's that's right. Sex is not gonna be as good Yeah, and also Deval's calling from LA You you move to many other states in between here in New York. You will find more of those women. Hey Peter What's going on

With the flu Get on that tab to get on the antivirals of some type because they really work Why not just wait five actual flu? Yeah, why don't wait five seven days young he's strong hey Peter what's up your question is why don't I ask his rodeo or chief Thunder Bear if you and dad get ask his rodeo my life would be complete all right well we will we will work on ask his rodeo we'll put it in the I like the I like the chief Thunder Bay. You don't do anymore. We've been it's been a long time Doing new shit. All right. We'll try we'll try the We'll try it with this put Scott on the phone. Oh

Scott Scott's gone from Boise Scott Scott's gone from Boise Scott's working in a mine or something that's on the road. Well, he's he's lost interest in women. That's why it sounds like that. Scott That's her brainway Now what do we do check testosterone? What do we do here? Yeah, what happened? My question is is I Well, my question is, I'm 33 years old and I have trouble with commitment. I know if I were younger you'd probably say I was soiling my royal oats, but my problem

is I can't make commitment. But it says on the screen that you've lost interest in women? Well, I do, after probably like two or three weeks. I mean, we're talking some quality girls, not so quality girls, but it's always the same result. Are you having sex with these women? Yes. You're fine, brother.

You're fine. Next caller. Dag was confused because he thought you'd stopped your date raping. Keep digging them down, Scottie. This is an intimacy disorder. When people- Disorder? Yeah. when people can't tolerate closeness. Wait a minute. Scott, have you ever been in a long relationship? A serious committed relationship? I'm 33 and the longest relationship I had was nine months. That's kind of long. That's

long for me. That means I hit that club twice. Just say yeah, but still. Wait, that means I hit that... Dailings is proud to present for the second time this year, David Ollagramp! I don't... Drew, what do you think? Does he have a disorder? Just say it, yeah, but still. Yeah, but still.

I mean, you know, he's just saying that. Okay, all right, there you go. Does he have a disorder? I'm saying it can be looked at that way. It would help him to sort of contemplate why he can't tolerate closeness over time and there are Pia Melody writes a lot of books about this kind of thing you can read about a Pia Melody it's also called love avoidance that's sort of a different it's sort of a specific construct that can help you understand what you need to do to get back in and

frankly forming a relationship with a therapist is one of the primary ways you can get over the- Just call him a good boy. You mean like fucking a therapist? Exactly. I will tell you this. I will tell you this. Honestly, I have female friends in my life.

If a female friend of mine comes and says, look, I met the greatest guy, I think he's the one, I'm going to ask some questions. I tell them all the same deals like look if the dude is 40 and He has never had a long-term Relationship doesn't have to be married if he has never lived with a woman if you've never dated anyone Longer than nine months just dump him now. Yeah. Yeah, cuz that's not it's not that's not going anywhere Particularly look at his family of origin stuff if they're I don't need to know that.

Yeah. I'm just telling you, you are a 40 year old man. You have never, you never said, you say, I've never been in love. Just dump him now. That's not going nowhere. It's the same thing if someone's been talking about writing a book for the last eight years or they're in their 11th year of junior college and when they sit down and you're having dinner and they go yeah I'm gonna get a few more credits they don't tell you because you've heard the rap too many times but you hear them at a party talking to someone else like a couple more credits and then I'm transferring to Stanford. I've been studying at the groundlings for seven seasons now. Yeah no you're not no you're not no you're not you want to know how I know

you're not you would people who do do That have done it will do it and continue to do it So if you're 40 and you've never been a long-term relationship and you go I just haven't met the right bullshit and you're right dag All right one more call for you through women somebody wants to know would you do dancing with the stars? Mike you really want that would you like to do that? Well, I probably know the answer, but what the heck? Well, it's interesting, everybody around me, Catharwood, you guys, all my friends have done it.

Mm-hmm, they ask you, I'm sure. They have asked me, and I don't think it's, first of all, I think I would be horrific. Yeah, you would, but that's not the point. That's the fun of it, right? Yeah, it's the fun of it. I'd be horrific and not even funny, just pathetic. That's the thing that bothers me. Yeah, but they'd have you with your shirt off and they'd have you oiled up and stuff singing opera. You sing opera

and shit? Yeah. Alright, Drew, no, you can't do it. You know why? I could do that. You're a doctor, Drew. But don't you have a practice? I'm talking about a medical practice. But could I find the time to do this? No. That's right. You could if you've been lying to us, much like Manti Teo, meaning you don't have three kids, you don't have a real legitimate practice because it takes too much time. Too much.

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