The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Emotional Currency (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)
Episode Date: February 11, 2025Adam and Drew open the show examining the difference between people who are always working and those who can easily take time off. Adam also brings up a noticeable difference in one of his children a...fter his recent Long Beach Grand Prix victory.
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Yes, get it on! Got to get it on. No choice but to get on. Mandate, get it on. Good to see you Dr. Drew.
Hey man, you know, I got to get it on. I just, something just occurred to me just
before the mics heated up. We were talking about our schedules and trying
to work something out and I realized in talking with your minion,
just by the look on their face,
that the notion of a work day for you and I,
doesn't really exist.
In other words, if we're awake, it's work day.
You know what I mean?
Oh, you mean versus weekend?
Versus like stopping at six o'clock or seven o'clock
or starting at nine in the
morning. We just work. If we're up, we're working. Yeah, potentially. I mean that we
prefer not maybe, but it's not a we don't have a work day. I don't know. To me. No,
not saying you don't work enough. I'm just saying it never occurred to me that people
have a notion of work hours. Right. You know what I mean? My work hours are from the second
I wake up till the second I go to sleep. Well, you're pretty insane. I'm sort of like an
attorney who can bill his client anytime because I'm always thinking about his case even if
I'm on the golf course. Like, and I mean it in the sense or like a guy who runs a business out of his
house but everything's a deduction right so I don't have a I mean I'm not I'm not
miserable not going to a coal mine or anything but when I'm in my car I'm
talking to someone about a Paul Newman documentary I want to make and trying to
line things up and then when I'm done with
that I walk in here and I'm looking at Matt Fondelier the porcelain punisher and when
he's not in the bathroom you know the 22% of the time he's here and not sitting on the
toilet we're working on the logo for the shelf talker for Mangria you know now it doesn't
feel much like work to me because it's fun. But it never ends.
It just bleeds into the next event.
When you're trying to schedule things, do you think, oh, well, that's dinner time.
I can't do that?
No.
I don't have any can't do that time.
The only can't do that time I have is something else.
I'm working that time.
Family stuff gets slotted in, no doubt.
I mean, I do do that.
But still, that's like, well, if we need to do something, we just got to do it.
That's all.
Because the workday is over.
It does.
I always find it interesting when people go, I got to pick up my dad from the airport,
so I can't do whatever.
Or it's dinnertime.
That's like, what?
Or lunchtime?
Or lunch? Lunch, that's a bizarre concept. Every, every, oh, lunch. Or it's dinner time. That's like what? Or lunch time? Or lunch?
Lunch, that's a bizarre concept.
Every, every, oh lunch.
Lunch is a weird thing.
Every night or at some point during the day my nanny Olga will say, are you eating dinner
at home?
And I'll go, no I'm going to work early.
Or I'm going to Irvine so I gotta leave at six.
Or yes I am eating dinner at home, but it's it just floats all over the place
she has to ask every single day are you going to be here at 6 or you're gonna be somewhere else and
Variety spicy lives fine. Yeah, I don't have any um
I'm the same way like I it's it's all just one big meeting one big logo one big
It's all just one big meeting, one big logo, one big conversation, one big get these guys on the phone,
or one big podcast, or one big show,
but it's never, it's never, you know,
it's actually something that I'm envious of,
and I find it interesting,
because I worked and have done some work with Dennis Prager. Dennis Prager is a guy who has an incredible motor, he's much like you. He
works, he travels, he does things every weekend and so on and so forth but when
that Sabbath hits on Friday night, it all stops. And so you're doing these things where you go,
well, we're trying to do a couple of live dates, you know, well, I can do Thursday and
then I can do Saturday, but I can't do Friday, you know, or whatever works out to be. And
you're like, can't do, you know, even money on the table here. And he says, it just can't can't do it during these hours and I realize
That's important. I wish I had an ounce of that. I know you and I initially would find it
Incredibly confining. Yeah, like you can't travel on a Friday. That's when I travel
I leave Friday morning from Burbank
I do a show in Minneapolis Friday night, and then we get back in the airport
We're heading for Utah, and it's like can't travel on a Friday. That's gonna ruin my whole live date. Whatever
but I
Think those people are happier than we are number one because they don't just fucking grind themselves down to a nub
Constantly I mean honestly this last weekend is the weekend you're
hearing this it's drive to Merced, Merced which is five hours one way do a 90
minute show and then drive home that night when I say that night I mean 4 a.m.
5 a.m. whatever however long it takes you to get back and then the
following day today Sunday oh we're gonna be in the city of Corona doing a
live podcast so like how far is that that's 65 miles from so it's like all
right so I'm gonna be driving for a combined 13 hours this weekend and doing that Saturday and Saturday
That's my weekend like we will go. Hey, what are you doing this weekend?
That'll that'll be what I'll be doing drives. Well be driving and with Mike August who by the way
Mike
Who does the bookings?
He is it's like having a staring contest with a guy who has no eyelids.
He cannot go, there's no part of him that goes, fuck, I don't want to schlep it all
the way up to Merced on a fucking Saturday and then turn around the next day and have
to be in Corona.
I mean, that's fucking, I got a life to lead here.
There's a Lakers have a playoff game.
Come on now.
No, no, no, no.
He does not care.
He'll drive, do the show, drive back.
He won't be in the car.
He won't yawn.
He won't move.
That's what I love about that guy.
His dad's a football coach.
Yeah.
He played football.
It's game on.
Yeah.
Well, let's go do it.
Is there free food?
Let's drive.
Yeah. I'll be in the parking lot selling mangarilla Korea He's got the same rhythm all the time, right? It's a little bit of a hopping rhythm
He's like tip tip tip tip tip tip tip always going always going and never never too high speed never low
But it's interesting that he doesn't possess something which I was just talking to my other robot friend Kevin hench about
Which is and a lot of people have
this, where you say to them, look, this can't happen.
This event, this date, I know I said we're going to do this theater a month from now,
cancel it, can't be done for these reasons, rebook it, moving on. Mike says, all right, I'll rebook it.
Kevin says, okay, let's redo it. Everyone else says, a lot of people were counting on you to show up.
And then you go, I know, but it cannot be done on that date. Period. Rebook it.
but it cannot be done on that date. Period. Rebook it.
What about the people who bought the tickets?
I understand it's an issue. I understand this is not something that makes you happy.
As I stated, cannot be done, needs to be rebooked.
Moving on.
Well, what am I gonna do?
Because I already
Cancelled stuff to do stuff that oh boy who says who goes around everybody?
but who
Everybody every fucking human being on the planet. It's basically this it's this equivalent
Look you ever do this. I've had happen a million times
Listen, I have to go now. So I'll see you later. You're leaving?
It sounds like your mom.
No, it's my grandpa.
It's a Jewie thing, sorry.
It's a I'm going to extract my pound of flesh.
I just explained to you.
I'm leaving.
What's gonna happen?
You're going?
Yes, I'm going.
Now?
No, four days.
What if she said, I wish you wouldn't, I'd
really enjoy spending time with you. That's a different conversation?
Yeah. That's a direct and okay conversation. Right. This is, I'm going to make you feel
bad about what you're going to do. Nobody else has the, you know, when I say, Mike is
this way, I go, take Sunday's show off,
I don't wanna spend another day in Phoenix,
get rid of it, we don't need to stay there all day
to do a show that night.
He says, it's done.
He doesn't go, but it's already on,
and people don't realize how fucking bothersome that is,
and people also don't realize how much of that people do.
And when you do become that person,
guess who wants to avoid you?
Me.
Because I don't wanna fucking deal with you.
Just lap after fucking lap after fucking lap.
And there's a lot of people,
a lot of people that do that.
It's very rare that you run into people
where you go I just don't want to do this and they go that's fine yeah moving
on what is that true pass regression you know what I feel yeah it is I feel that a
lot of people use life in a and we all do it there are people you see where you
go that guy owes me a favor and then there are people you see where you go, that guy owes me a favor.
And then there's people you see where you go,
oh fuck, oh that guy 20 bucks.
You know what I mean?
We all sort of, there's the-
The scale of justice.
Yes, there's a big group,
there's a big pool of people you have zero with.
I'm walking in off the street,
I'm walking into your restaurant,
I'm gonna order a hamburger.
Mean you have zero history.
But then there's the people in your life where you owe them,
they owe you, whatever.
And people have an emotional currency
that they use that drives me insane.
And what they don't want to do is
they don't want to squander that emotional currency
that they keep with people.
Meaning this, if Mike August says to me when I say cancel Sunday show in Phoenix, I'll
do two shows Friday, two shows Saturday, but I don't want to spend all day there Sunday
and do a show that night and come home Monday, we're coming home Monday morning.
If he says, wow, that's really going to be an uncomfortable conversation with the club owner.
Oh, I see.
I guess I can do it.
I see.
I can try and do it.
I'll do it for you.
So you think he's ringing up, he's got a cash register, so he's ringing up some debt.
If he, he doesn't do it, but if he does.
If he says that.
If he says, I can call the guy, he's going to be pissed.
I'll take the brunt of it, but we're going to be leaving money on the guy. He's gonna be pissed. I'll take the brunt of it. But we're gonna be leaving money
on the table. You're gonna be, I'm gonna be leaving money on the table because I get a
percentage of this. And again, I hope it doesn't hurt my relationship with the guy. But yes,
I will do it for you.
That's an okay or not okay?
That I'll tell you, I'm not explaining whether it's good or bad. Why do people do this? Because the next time I come around and I go, hey Mike, I need a favor.
He's, oh, well now I'm already smarting from the last time we went through this.
It's a debt.
He's got a little cash register.
Here's the debt I'm accumulating.
Right.
I'm letting you know, there's a debt.
But I don't know how the, that to me seems-
People never stop doing that. I agree seems... People never stop doing that.
I agree.
Most people never stop doing that.
I think that's different than the passive aggressive stuff.
No, I'm not calling it passive aggressive.
Your grandfather, they go, you have to?
Are you going?
That's different than I'm letting you know what position you're putting me through.
You called it passive aggressive.
I am saying that people keep an emotional cash register.
No, I dig. And they like to keep a currency and now and by the way, it's smart because I say is that wrong?
Yes, you are putting him through that
It is it is wrong
because I
understand
What this?
Implies implies I understand that people aren't going to be thrilled that
I canceled the show and I understand it implies leaving money on the table and I
understand there's a lot of other stuff that goes along with it. I understand it
and I've thought that through and I've made my decision.
Dick, do you think that the re- now we all know you're superior to everyone else. Do you
think that the reason people get accustomed to announcing
the currency exchange, right?
True. That's a double whammy. You're moving the mic and the phone going off.
You explain the currency change because most people don't do that math in their head. They
just assume you'll do it for them and then they'll think no more about it.
I think that people want that currency.
They just want that.
You're not listening, really.
That you're different.
I may be.
Yes.
You think it through.
I'm listening.
You, in your request, factor into the currency exchange without it having to be stated, while
most people don't and need that statement from the other party. No because I get it. I
Know I don't I think it's a mode that people are in I think why what's the motivation for them?
Do you always like to think talking about motivation the motivation in it for them is?
You say
This is how it works. And here's I believe it works.
It.
You say to your wife, I wanna see Pain and Gain.
What the hell?
Oh, the movie.
Yes.
She, when I say see.
Well I thought you were asking her to.
Do some pushups.
I feel the same way.
I wanna see some Pain and Gain.
I wanna see the movie Pain and Gain.
Yeah.
And she thinks to herself, I kinda wanna see Pain and Gain. And she thinks to herself,
I kinda wanna see Pain and Gain too,
cause I like that rock and that Walberg guy
and I wanna see him with his shirts off, right?
But she thinks,
as a little bit of a tactician,
just hold on, she says to herself,
if I immediately agree and go,
I wanna see that too, now you're even.
If she says, well, I'd rather see the merchant ivory film.
Hold on.
I know you're not saying your wife does this.
I'm saying human being I get it.
I'd rather but for you I'll see pain and gain.
Well guess who gets to see whose movie next time it comes up.
She's just assured that herself she's assured quiet, that the next movie night that
you're going to see Beach is part two.
But now you've taken it to a new level when you said she's injected that.
Tsunami.
Yeah.
She's actually, it's not that she wants to see the, what's the name on Ivory?
Merchant.
Merchant Ivory.
Beach is two.
But yeah, not that she wants to see Beach is that she's using the notion that she would
want to see Beaches as a way of gaining some currency.
People-
That's super manipulative.
No, no.
As opposed to, I want to see the Merchant Ivory film and I'll go do it and I want to
announce it so you get what just happened.
I'm saying that most people are in that mode.
Yes, but-
People walk around all day in that mode. I say though people walk around all day in that mode.
I say though, I agree with you. Southwest flight.
There's an infinity difference between somebody who announces it to let you know the currency
exchange that just has occurred as opposed to somebody who counterfeits it.
No, I do agree. And I'm not saying it's, I don't think it's conscious I think people are
in that mode when we fly in a southwest flight back in the day we'd be flying on
a southwest flight no but this happened it's back in the day here's how I know
it's subconscious and it's built into the fabric of all the weak horrible
people who I have to live on this planet with.
Or more importantly, share the planet with me.
I like the way the robots don't even flinch at this anymore.
Southwest flight, you and I, we want to sit together.
There's that seat where there's two people already in it.
You and I would like to sit next to each other.
So we say to the clearly single passenger,
because you have the single seat or whatever,
sir, if you don't mind
there's an aisle seat open just two seats up you think you could switch with
us so we could sit together he doesn't say anything but as he stands up yeah
big exhale yeah oh boy put a pawn yeah hey douche we're not ever gonna see you
again so there's no currency with us. There's no later on. Oh
Here we are in the lobby of the hotel and there's only room for one on the shuttle and it's time to pay back
No, no, he just goes
Would you ever do that? Never I would never do it. Never go. Yes. Yes, sir. Sure
It makes perfect or I would say no if I had a good reason
Although I would never do that and you'd apologize you wouldn't go
Yes, but God I've had it happen to me many times with the pssh now that person's an automatic currency mode
That person doesn't even know there's no currency being exchanged. I'm not married to you. I'm not sucking your dick
We're not picking out a fucking movie to rent
I don't know you and that's how fucking into it you are.
Now imagine that person in a business relationship.
He's giving us the, okay, which you owe me, like if you got some extra honey roasted nuts,
they're definitely coming my way.
Everything's an infringement.
That's my point.
And it's not my point, but it's on top of my point and and it's not my point but it's it's it's on top of my point
My point is I those people bother me and instead of currency what they get from
me is I'll see you later meaning if Mike bugged me about moving the date and gave
me the shit he would get currency from me
But he'd have to go spend it at someone else's bank. Yeah, and
The people have no idea what they do all
If currency that was not legal in my country
People do that fucking shit all the time. Like, I was here until, ah, buh, buh,
buh. You know, that's what you and I always talk about, that thing of, I was here at eight
in the morning and I didn't leave until, okay, so you worked. So did everyone else. So did
everyone who came before you. Please stop it.
There's a weird thing that people have. I sort of equate it with something called projective identification, which is
They can't manage their own feelings within their own body's boundaries within their skin. Mm-hmm. They have to put it into you
Yes, you must feel some of their pain interesting. It's called projective identification. Yeah.
And then there's just a terrible human quality.
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I'm like what's coming off of me like I was going out trying to eat breakfast
with Lynette and the kids she's dying for some eggs it's two in the
afternoon and she said to the perky chick behind the counter,
are you guys still serving breakfast?
After about the third time we tried,
and the chick was like, sorry,
we stopped serving half hour ago,
and Lynette just went like, huh,
and it started to walk out of the place,
and I had to do the, sorry,
she's frustrated about breakfast, you know.
She's being a human being,
but she doesn't realize that person-
It's expecting the other person.
Yeah, the person has no idea of the history of us arguing about
Barbecue in the car and her wanting to get eggs. She's getting and which is something
Probably women do a little more than men. Yes, which makes them better at parenting in a weird way. Yes. That's right
It's it makes them more attuned and reciprocal in relationships. Yeah, interesting.
That's very interesting. I never thought about that.
Speaking of parenting, yes?
I want to say speaking of infringement, I was infringed upon today. Your bathroom etiquette,
are we calling it? Bathroom behavior, bathroom rules are breaking down, man. They're breaking
down.
What's going on? Now I
have a question. Which bathroom does Fond du Lire use? He uses the far one.
Yeah he uses the one closest to the front door. Well I walked into the ladies room, light off,
door open, nearly knocked me out of the room. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Now I left the door open crack with the light on
fart fan for the net for the next user. Next employee participant. But almost knocked out
of the room by what I found in that dark room with the door open. Could have been Rob. Rob
unfortunately is not on the premises right now. but... So we have to have a talk.
Yeah.
Gary?
Yeah, we have to figure this one out.
Gary, any thoughts?
Come on now.
Come on now.
Who uses the women's room?
I do.
Mm-hmm.
Evidently.
I don't know anyone else here who routinely uses the women's room.
Other than Rob.
I don't know that he routinely does.
It was the end of the last podcast, Adam and I did not fresh mind you this would have been disastrous 15 minutes prior
disastrous I tell you. I got a bit door shut. Stay the fuck out of here. I got to say a
drill. I've said it many times. A lot of damage being done at at the workplace and I've said a few things.
Last weekend I did that Toyota Grand Prix thing
and that's a off my schedule thing,
which is get up early Saturday morning,
hit the road, drive to Long Beach,
big travel mug of coffee in my hand,
and the next thing you know,
I'm at the Long Beach Convention Center taking a shit
because that's not where I normally take my shits except for I do normally drink
You don't normally go to the convention?
It's a little out of the way. I do that for the number one.
No, but so, not at the aquarium or wherever it is, but they have the track set up.
But so, the thing is, is I don't blame me in that situation because normally at 9 a.m.
With a cup of coffee in me I would be at home right on a saturday morning taking a shit
But once while you get thrown out of your element tell your bowels that right they're on a certain schedule
What I can't talk to your bowels. I can't figure out be a good psa talk to them talk to your bowels
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I so but when it comes to work, I feel like everyone can acclimate, get up in the morning,
drink that cup of coffee, eat those eggs, take that shit and then come to work.
I'm surprised at all the people that happily do the offloading at work at 9.30 in the morning.
Some of it is how you've accommodated.
You have two private bathrooms here.
You have a whole set up of bathroom etiquette.
Pull the pins off those doors, Lox and Max.
Let's get those worked out.
Yeah, no doors.
Yeah, maybe I'm too shit friendly.
Right.
Too accommodating. All all right from now on
Everyone gets their own roll of toilet paper signed to them okay, and I begin of the year
Beginning of the year, and I will then rational out like gruel on a pirate ship
I'm like an old-time 12 months not a pirate ship, but an old-time
You know Grecian rowing ship.
With the guy with the drum at the bottom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A Viking ship.
I will... I'll work it out to where you get like 2.7 pieces a day to do with what you
will.
As you please.
Unfortunately, it's going to start a black or brown market where guys like Chris that don't shit as much are gonna have to be dealing with guys like Fondelier who are like shaking literally dealing
Yeah, like I would be carton of cigarettes couple of couple of pieces. How will it get sold?
What kind of units have a new like instead of a lid? There's got to be like a
Sheet. Yeah, they're gonna be a square. No any squares man to that, too that too that's not hip oh you know the comb coasters coasters you got any
coasters man okay fucking need a coaster man coaster back and then he'll be like
you you were assigned you were assigned them just two weeks oh fuck man I burned
through that first week it's gone I'm down six coasters yeah it's either I
gotta use I use the fucking tail
of my dress shirt or my hand like I need fucking I'm gonna say catch a squirrel
man I fucking need a tuck I need a coaster bad dude I suck your dick
my answer to that is yeah but just by by, you know, like a model, you know, not so much by
you.
But yeah, finally I cried.
Getting down.
Call that Coastercock.
But you're right, obviously this is, I got a coffee maker that's always going.
Yes, you do.
I got a couple of bathrooms where the doors lock nicely in a fart fan and way too much toilet paper going on
Yeah, tell Matt we got to shift at least single ply until I until I reach a decision here
Because it's just to know more Charmin the quilted stuff is Charmin coasters way to be begging people to shit
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Alright Drew, couple quickies.
Calls I mean?
Yeah, I got this talk about too though.
Okay what?
Interesting, men and women.
You know Natalia can be a little snotty.
To you.
Yeah to me, just to me.
Sonny gives me the big wet kiss on the lips and Tanya gives me the forehead.
It's a little bit of a headbutt. I understand. And you know they do the
thing where you know she'll do the you know I want to be with mommy you know
and do a lot of do a lot of that stuff. Interesting stuff. After daddy won the pro grand prix
at Long Beach and daddy spent some time up on the jumbotron with the 40,000 people cheering
for daddy, little different attitude. From Natalia. Oh yes. Oh isn't that interesting.
That is so telling. No difference with Sonny. Oh fascinating. But the girl all of a sudden
Starfucker whoa, I mean she came around. Oh the next day is daddy get up
She was on my lap at 830 in the morning daddy. I want you to fascinating
Well, it makes sense. Well, it's but it shows you the wiring. Yes with men and women. Yes. I mean Sonny was
Good for dad
That's the cars and stuff more than anything. Yeah, that's what you were doing. It's cool. Yeah, he did it last year
I get it and he's happy and you know, I'm happy for him, but that doesn't change the way treat him or a relationship
He's my dad
I'll be cool with him Sunday, the day after the Grand
Prix, just like I would be on any Sunday. And you know, it'll be business, you know,
we're going to go do this, we're going to go do that. But Natalia, oh, she announced
she wanted me picking her up from school! It's interesting.
How long did it last?
It was still going.
Yeah, it's starting to wear off a little.
Yeah.
So I'm gonna have to go win something
over the next few days.
Right, that's also interesting too.
The time course of this would be fascinating.
Oh, it definitely, you'll definitely find it,
it definitely wears off pretty quick.
Yeah.
But palpable difference between the male
and the female who are of the same age in the
way the same household with the same parents in the same DNA in the way I was
treated pre and post victory Wow much different post victory and I sort of
expected it I understand it and that's how she is if we go out and people start
recognizing me and come up to me and want an autograph or something she wants
to sit next to me at the dinner table you know if we're out at a restaurant
if not it's all mommy this and mommy that and daddy you can stay home do you
ever try to get her to talk about it any kind of coy way? No, I'm not really.
It'd be interesting to see if she,
if you could find a way in without bringing it
to her attention.
I've not gotten into it with her yet
because she's been either too young or hasn't,
last year when I won I wanted to bring her up
on the podium with me and she didn't wanna go.
She was too shy.
So you could say something like,
you seem to like the fact that daddy won the Grand Prix.
And so you just see some open-ended thing like that.
You really seemed to have joined that
when we were out there.
Yeah.
Just see what you get.
It's an admirable quality.
Yeah.
So sad, but it's so true.
You need to get a TV show, see what happens.
And it's all how they're wired, man.
I mean, boy, zero difference, her, night and day, the following day.
And what would you expect, anything less?
It's not like I don't know what you're talking about, what the hell could this, how could
this possibly be?
It's just stunning that it's so vivid in such a Petri dish and at such a young age.
Right. That's all a young age. Right.
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah.
Difference, huge differences in the wiring of men and women.
Hey, man.
They're exactly, what do you, dude, exactly the same.
There's something that goes on in a female's brain
when she's standing in the audience watching
a band up on stage that is completely different than me going to watch Joan Baez
belt out an acoustic set.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes.
You are experiencing the music and you know, look, hey, Belinda Carlisle at 22 is pretty
hot, don't get me wrong, but you're there.
They're having a different experience than we're having with whoever's up on stage.
It's true.
Interesting.
All right, got some calls you like there, Drew?
Let's talk to Boston.
Just because I want to talk to me in Boston.
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Hey, Will from Boston 26.
Yeah, hi guys.
Hey.
I have a question for sort of both of you.
I guess I would kind of like.
Before you do, just where are you in Boston?
I am right downtown.
I was actually right on Boylston Street when everything happened. Oh my God. Is that why you in Boston? I am right downtown. I was actually right on Boylston Street
when everything happened.
Oh my god.
Is that why you're asking?
Yes.
Are you OK?
Is everything all right?
Yeah.
I was a solid 100 yards away, which to everyone not here
sounds really close.
But I was inside a bar when it happened so I don't really think I
thought it was a bomb it sort of felt like thunder and lightning when that sort
of shakes the house or that type of thing but I went back to my drink and
we're watching the Red Sox postgame stuff so I didn't really think about it
and then within
three minutes someone came in saying what it was
and it started to make more sense but
I mean it didn't make sense but
But you didn't have to witness any of the horrible stuff so
I mean not really
Not directly, okay so what's going on, what's the question?
So my question is for both of you and like I said I guess I would
kind of like to hear Drew's answer first but Adam you you always talk about being
sort of dead inside, emotionless in your relationships. They're picking this up
pretty good. Neutral on on things and mostly due or probably completely due to
your upbringing and Drew you tend to agree with that and at
some point that had to shift at least a little bit to become the parent you
become and husband and like friend to your your group of friends and I'm
wondering I guess Drew first I'm wondering when you saw that shift, even if
it didn't fully happen.
In him?
Yeah, in him and then Adam sort of when you think you shifted.
It's not all that clear cut.
Listen, Adam will announce he's a robot, he's a narcissist, and then when somebody says,
hey, well, so you're a robot, you're a narcissist, you get very offended by that.
No, I'm not that.
No, I'm not a narcissist.
All right, all right, all right.
I used to say that, too.
I'm just saying.
Where would I have gotten that?
I used to say that.
But it's fine.
And I think what Will's missing is-
Well, I understand I'm superior.
Right, right.
But who gives a shit?
Okay.
That's the way I look at it.
Will is picking up on a part of yourself that you amplify and talk about that's the way I look at it. Will is picking up on a part of yourself
that you amplify and talk about
that's not the totality of who you are.
Talking to Chris and Ray,
you guys wanna learn about that on the podcast,
this is, what number is that?
It's already up and down, find out in a second.
But they were saying you were more like Sonny
than anything else when you were growing up.
And so your experiences created this other part of you.
And then your therapy probably, that was episode 45, most recent one available.
And then also you had therapy too, which sort of reconnected you with those parts of yourself
that you're able to deploy with your family.
No problem.
Yeah.
I was laid back and sort of happy-go-lucky as a young person.
Chris and Ray fucked that all up.
No, I was always, you know, my whole thing was I couldn't understand why Chris and Ray
and anyone else wouldn't sort of listen to me.
Like I would say, like, here's what we got to do, you know, and they'd go, okay, and
then they'd just go get drunk and go somewhere and it'd be like, you know, Chris got ran over by a car.
Isn't it interesting?
Have you recreated that in so many areas in your life, like even in the Grand Prix race?
Here's what we're going to do and then people just do whatever.
Yeah.
Now what I don't, here's what I don't understand.
I understand that I know what I'm doing.
And so when I say to somebody, here's what we're going to do,
it's rarely to benefit me.
That's the whole thing.
I never go, here's what we're going to do.
You're going to go wax my car.
I don't say that.
I just go, here's what we're going to do.
We're going to put Molly's leash on this hook
that I'm going to install inside the entry closet door so we know where it is whenever it's
time to walk Molly we never have to go look upstairs or under the bed for it so
that'll be a help and then people go fuck off that's that's kind of how it
works they don't oh they don't say fuck off they just think it all I'm trying to
do is not have everyone look around for the leash
Do you think therapy is a big piece of what helped you?
Makes you it was kind of wondering how to become a good process. There's two things
the the process of therapy helps and then the process of
examining yourself and your relationship to your relationships and whatever
went down.
You know what I mean?
You should be in a constant state of Terminator-esque sizing up the situation.
What are you doing?
Because it happens all day, every day.
Getting back to the Grand Prix.
There's a woman who runs a thing named Rita.
She's very nice.
She's very anal and she's very, she's like one of your dogs.
She just, she just, she's a herder.
Get everyone, get her in, get her in.
We gotta get here.
We gotta get here.
We gotta get here.
We need you here.
We need you here.
We need you here.
Now, I said, I looked at the schedule for Saturday's race and it said meet in the lobby of the hotel
at 815 across the street from the track in Long Beach get credentials gather up walk to the track
have breakfast get dressed and at 9 45 we'll be meeting the kids and their parents from the
children's hospital and taking pictures and doing that kind of stuff
915 drivers meeting
Okay, that's the sketch. Yeah, sorry 1015 drivers me. Yeah, that's the schedule. Yeah now I thought to myself
I've been driving back and forth from Long Beach for three days running now
And I'm kind of tired and to get it be down and that's race day
I'd like to get a little sleep, you know
I'd like to charge my batteries and I'm working a lot and I'll tell you
what I can forgo the standing in the lobby of the Marriott and I can forgo
the eating breakfast with everybody and everyone's just standing around you know
and I wrote her an email and I said Rita I know you're crazy with this stuff and
I'm not getting out of anything
I will be in my fire suit and camera ready by 930 tomorrow morning
Ready to greet those kids take the pictures do the drivers meeting so the first thing on the calendar is 945
First real thing on the calendar. I will be ready at 930 my fire suit and I'll see you tomorrow. Thank you and
I had to make
a decision. What am I asking? Am I saying, am I getting her in trouble? Am I causing
angst in her? Am I missing out on some piece of information that like, hey, we're all going
to sit and have a meeting and talk about what the flags mean and how to obey the flags and
blah, blah, blah. No, I decided that no, I put it in terms that she could
understand. I gave her a number. I said 930, fire suit, ready to go, and I slept
in. And I left my house at 830 and I got there at 915 and I got my fire suit by
929 and I was ready to go. So was it breaking what she wanted me to do? Yes.
Was I hurting her? No
Well me affecting her but not hurting her I had to decide but I think I
Did it in such a way that was fair to me and to her then there's a message here for will in the story
The message is is everything you every day I go through my life
Saying what do I want?
Well, I'd like to sleep till noon.
You come pick me up, start the race around two,
and I'll start in the lead position.
That's what I would like.
Versus what is fair?
And versus what every day, and not once a day, 20 times a day, how are we going to decide
where you fit in, what is fair, whether you're driving your car in a race or on the street,
whether you're with your friends or family, what are you asking, where are you?
And for me, I try to be in a constant review mode and I think it has helped me grow which is I
want to review me honestly for good or for bad and like I said saying to Rita
listen I'll be there at 1030 I don't need to go through another one of those
drivers meetings is being unfair to her no okay fair enough so I'll be there at
930 dressing ready to go but that for for me, therapy, having a family, and just sort of constantly going through
it.
Which is basically saying, no I didn't go to Sonny's basketball game last week because
I was out of town and as much as I don't want to get up at 715 this morning and go to the
fucking Hollywood Y where the homeless people are sleeping out front front I'm going because I didn't go last week on the other hand. Maybe I hit three in a row and I go fucking
I'm sleeping in this one
That's where it's at for me. I don't know how you work through I
Know that compass of yours is exquisitely accurate
That is yeah. Yeah. Well, you want to know why it's accurate because you're not bothered by emotions. Mm-hmm
Well to some degree out it no you want to know why it's accurate the compass doesn't have my name on it
Does it does it sit in the bank or the other what was that again?
No, my compass is just a compass.
It's not a compass that says Adam's compass on it.
It's, hey Rita from Toyota, what would it be like for you if another participant from
this race showed up in his driver's suit ready to go by 930 and taking pictures with the
kids?
Right.
As long as it passes that test, then it's fine, but it never has me in
The equation that's what I try to remove if everyone did that
We'd be living in a fucking utopia
Joel my three all right, let's see
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Oh, if you have a business if you have a business like we do here
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free yeah stamps.com I don't know why Minivan reminded me of this,
but one of the things that's driven me insane
from my children's childhood is my son's,
one of his earliest books was a book of just trucks
and fire engines.
I remember that.
And it just said Earthmover, and it said, you know,
airport fire truck, and it had all, it got real specific.
He learned the names of all the stuff.
And he would remember all the names and he'd point at it and he'd say, that's a garbage
truck, you know, and then he'd say, that's an earth mover and it's like asphalt spreader
and all these things.
They had everything in there.
And then there was a picture and it said minivan.
And the picture was a custom 70s van full-size Dodger Chevy van
an Astro van kind of thing size no not Astro van no
I'm asking that's a minivan true
well you're describing the Astro van is not a minivan yeah it is
alright okay keep going I'm talking full
size 70s custom van this one had the two rear axles, had
the six wheel, like you'd see once in a blue moon on a super custom whatever and
it said minivan and I was like not only did you guys not put a picture of a
minivan and the world is your oyster when you when it comes to images of
minivans
there's every car company makes 30 of them and they're spread out all over the
place but you picked a full-size custom van with two rear axles of six wheeled
thing and wrote minivan under it and this thing was seen by how many eyes
before it actually went in publication. Everyone sees six wheels three axle
minivans.
Oh, it's the weirdest thing.
Like the easiest thing.
Like you just went through the, you went through the earth,
you went through the asphalt spreader and the earth mover
and the high, you know, the, the, the,
the high bucket crane lift and blah, blah, blah.
And the gantry, this and that and the other,
but you fucked up the minivan.
You just couldn't find a fucking picture of a Toyota anything
or Aerostar and whatever just a fucking just a Dodge you know anyway we'll figure
it out there's a Dodge Gary I would say what you printed on my thing but it's
gonna look really really history will not be good to history. No, come on. Did the thing that started the whole?
Caravan the caravan. Yeah, he put dirt
But I was I won't say
Yeah, yeah Dodge caravan. There's a zillion pictures of now six-wheel custom
Custom large and it
pissed me off every time I read that and then he would say minivan I'd say no no
stop saying that Joel yes 21 yes sir what's going on well I recently made an
appointment to speak with the doctor to be evaluated for ADD, not ADHD,
ADD.
And just for stuff that I've heard from the science school.
What's the difference, Drew?
You know, one is the H is hyperactivity, and there's differing criteria for each.
They're close relatives, and they have slightly different treatments.
But what's the question?
The question is, I was screened.
I couldn't see the doctor that day, but she just basically
screened me and said, you know, do you want to kill yourself, stuff like that.
And she said that most likely she wasn't the doctor that would prescribe anything, but
she said most likely I'd be prescribed Adderall.
And I just wanted to know what are the risks, you know, what should I know before I do take
Adderall, if that's what they prescribe?
I mean, I had a friend that was diagnosed in high school, and I tried one pill of Adderall,
and it was a world of difference, but my parents are sort of against doctors and medications, so...
I'm just not convinced that psychostimulants are the way to go after the age of 18.
And the biggest concern is many people
with ADD, ADHD actually have addiction. And you have to be very circumspect about triggering
addiction with these medications. I mean, this is...
That's my worry.
This is amphetamine analog. You don't sound like an addict to me. You would kind of probably
know if you had that predilection. It's not a bad treatment if people are very carefully
selected. It's clearly effective and important under the age of 18. But afterwards, I'm a
little less enthusiastic. And there are many other things besides psychostimulants you
can get into. So just have a conversation.
If they were to prescribe it, is it for a continual basis? You know, as to say for the next five years, would it matter?
Well, that's, there's differing philosophies about that.
I've seen some people do it just for academic performance so people can help focus, and
that's kind of a weird way to use it.
Some people do use it on a regular basis.
Again, you're 21, you're a healthy guy.
You wouldn't be taking a medicine all the time?
I mean, if it's worth the risk, I don't know.
But here's the thing with everything Drew,
you tell me what you think. You know somebody calls and says I want to get the lap band
surgery. I say let's start with getting up and walking two miles every morning and taking
it easy on the cheesecake. And you know in six months when you shifted from white rice
to brown rice you're eating a lot more vegetables
and you're having chicken breast instead of brisket.
And you're starting every morning,
you've taken that two mile walk
and turn it into a five mile jog.
Then when we're done with that,
then let's talk about the lap band
if you're still morbidly obese after that.
I don't think you're gonna be,
but then we can talk after that.
And I feel like let's get a career goal, let's get into exercise, let's get a relationship, let's
have some friends and a support system, let's have some things that flip your cookie, some
stuff, some goals, some stuff you're into. Let's move, let's breathe. I sound like Susan
Powder here. But what I'm saying is then let's talk about drugs right not everything is a medical pathology and some things are
just predilections that are strengths or weaknesses but your job is to get on in
life and have a rich experience and I'm not always the answer I'm saying to me
the best medicine is you basically breaking yourself and becoming this person.
I've seen it, I've done it, and I've seen it in other people as well, and then the success
breeds more success.
Alright a happy note to go out on, and again folks, if you want to subscribe, you just
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At least whenever you needed to write a book report from the age of 9 to 19.
Yeah.
Phantom Tollbooth.
That's right, buddy.
That's right.
Now you write books that are longer.
Think about that.
We don't write them.
I...
We don't speak them.
I yell them.
Yell them.
No.
I tell everyone that's the reason I know everything.
And we have a reunion tour, right?
Because I know nothing.
That's right.
Uptown Theater, May the Man.
I don't got the man's voice in my head, man.
You know everything because you don't know nothing.
I know everything because I know nothing.
You're not cluttered by other people's nonsense.
I just sit and observe and then I announce what it is.
And everyone else is too busy with their religion,
their feelings and their reports and they got nothing.
History.
Napa Uptown Theater, May 18th at 8 p.m.
Me and Dr. Drew up on stage and then me down on the track
there on Saturday and Sunday.
So come check that out and have some fun with us in Napa.
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