The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Gary Anthony Williams (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)
Episode Date: January 20, 2025Adam and Drew are joined by Gary Anthony Williams and examine the nuances of improv comedy and why Dr. Drew has never been able to grasp them after all these years. Later they examine the persistence... of racism and the different ways in which it manifests itself in today's society.
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Yeah
All right, Gary Anthony Williams is our guest today. It feels good to be here Adam good to have you take it away, Drew
Oh good excellent. Yeah, I've been dealing with a lot of crap lately
My son got sick and Adam has given me shit for attending to it. So, sorry
I seem a little distracted.
I have a son and if he got sick, if Adam...
He would freak you out, right?
No, not at all.
Right, but Drew, what about every other show where you come in here with your phone and
Twitter all day?
You mean, wait, I'm taking over.
With your son not sick.
Adam does this thing where he takes his hands off the wheel. If he wants to do something,
he wants you to do something and you seem not as attentive or compliant with his way of doing things just takes hands off the
wheel because all right you drive. Wow. It gets scary sometimes. No I get it. How sick is your son?
Well we were trying to figure it out it's been he's been sick for like a month and he's 20 so
it's good and he's got a girlfriend taking care of him so it's been okay that's been good he
doesn't care as much about his parents, he does about his peers in college.
How old is your son?
My son's 10.
And yeah, man, they make you worry.
They make you worry about everything.
Like will they have enough friends?
Right?
Is he too smart?
You know what I mean?
How many kids you have?
That's it.
Just one.
Just one son.
That's all I had in me.
Well, my sperm is still very young, but my wife's eggs are old.
So it's her fault.
Are you an anxious parent?
What do you mean by that?
What sounds like you're like me.
You worry about everything with him.
Is he smart enough?
Is he too smart?
I have not slept well since he was born.
That's true.
You got to set up the guests.
You got to let them know who he is, what he's doing, what's coming up.
Okay.
Good.
But let me just first get the parenting thing out of the way.
I'm like you, and so when you get sick,
you can imagine, this kid's, I've been through it
like five times with him with really serious illness.
It's weird, I keep thinking, okay, he's been through it now,
it's over, it's the end of it.
And we keep having, and the other one's never a problem.
I have three.
This one, constant, constant, constant.
Wow.
Anxiety is not something Adam can relate to. He cannot understand.
It just rolls off.
It just rolls off.
He's made of steel, man.
The guy is icy, icy cold when it comes to anxiety.
He sees everything very clear.
Those of us who are stuck with bodies and emotions are really at a handicap.
I like to think of myself as very zen.
I can repulse the monkey.
I can let things go the other way.
But when it comes to him, no, like definitely, it's just that thing of I don't know when
I'm going to die and I need this little dude to be ready.
You know what I'm saying?
He needs to be ready for the world.
That's anxiety.
That's it.
It's catastrophizing.
We're talking to Gary Anthony Williams, of course, you know, from Weeds, Boston Legal,
Malcolm in the middle.
So much.
Yeah.
Just a young star.
He was destined for a thoracic surgery until a computer error accidentally signed him up for drama class in the middle. So much. Just a young star. Yeah, he was destined for a thoracic surgery until a computer error accidentally signed
him up for drama class in high school.
Surgery or surgeon?
To be a thoracic surgeon.
Thoracic surgery as a field.
He will be at the LA Comedy Short Film.
Oh, you're co-founder of the LA Comedy Short Film.
That is April 4th, Sunday through April 7th.
Who else will be there? Paul Rodriguez?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. A bunch of my buddies will be there, like Billy Gardell from Mike and
Molly, Paul Rodriguez, Sherry O'Terry, Wendy McClendon Covey from Bridesmaids. There's
a lot of famous, funny, recognizable people. Then there's just regular Joes who have some
great short films. Where is it?
It's at the Downtown Independent Theater.
It is.
You can find out more about it at lacommodyshorts.com.
The website is lacommodyshorts.com for tickets and whatnot.
You're from Atlanta.
Yeah, man.
How'd you end up out here?
I grew up in Fayetteville, Georgia, which was just a horrible place to grow up.
No, Fayetteville's a cool place.
And Atlanta's a little north of there.
So I was acting there.
Fayetteville, was there a school there at Fayetteville,
like one of the universities?
No, no, no.
There's a Fayetteville in every place.
We're the least of them.
We do have the oldest courthouse in the state of Georgia,
if that means anything to you.
That means nothing to anyone there.
But no, there's nothing there except some sweet southern racism
still exists.
You know, again, the son I was telling you about.
They're set in their ways.
That's not racism.
It's called set in their ways.
Yeah, yeah.
They're very set there.
The son I'm talking about is in the South at school.
And he is disturbed all the time by the background of racism.
It's like you can't, like you can't, they don't know,
it's so much a part of the background,
they don't know it's there, they think it's not there,
and it's very, I found him very unsettling for him.
But it's, you know, I mean, growing up there,
to most black people, there's more of a joke
than anything else, it's not even something that,
I remember driving from my little hometown of Fayetteville
to Atlanta, and the Klan would be on the side of the street passing out pamphlets.
That's a joke?
Yeah, and we would just grab a pamphlet.
Like what are they going to do?
You know what I mean?
Like to them they seem scary, to us they seem like fucking idiots wearing some very nicely
laundered linens right now.
But sometimes those fucking idiots are aligned with Aryan supremacy groups that are really
I mean what's going on in Texas right now is exactly that.
What's going on in Texas?
Their DA is being shot up all over the place and they think it's the Aryan supremacy group.
They might be the Aryan supremacist group.
I thought they just let the one guy out of prison early and he went and shot the DA.
There's all theories all over the place but the one I heard of.
Don't they have
A clerical error that let the guy out four years early and then he went and shot up the guy who locked him up
Maybe except these also there's some association with these Aryan race a you were sperm. Well, I was laugh I was laughing about it with my buddy Kevin Henshaw
Riding on my next movie which is we said, you know, as white
guys, Kevin's a real white guy, it sucked to get into prison because we'd have to get
swastika tattoos and join the Aryan nation.
Like you got to join up, you're either with the Mexican low riders, you're with the Crips
or the Bloods, and if you're a white dude, you can't just be ginger-haired Kevin Hinch
just going, you know, and I'm going to be an independent.
He'd have to go start pumping iron and get a Hitler tattoo on his back.
But you'd have to go join in with those dudes.
Are there any white dudes who can pass in prison?
You know, like, you know, you know what there is, what there is,
because I've been to the prison and the Maxim security prison.
There is the group of people What there is, because I've been to the prison and the Maximum Security Prison, there is
the group of people who aren't going to shank anybody and who have a history of not shanking
people who get to white, black, Hispanic, Jewish and Asian.
It's just a beautiful-
That's a good one.
There's no Jews or Asians in there, obviously.
Yeah.
But the point is that- There's one Jew, but nobody knows.
Oh, he's the warden.
Yeah.
Yeah, but the point is this.
They have a yard for non-troublemakers.
And if you wanna shoot hoops
and you wanna play the acoustic guitar
and you don't wanna get stabbed,
then all you have to do is not fight with other inmates
and not stab other inmates,
and you get to hang out in the nice guy yard.
But I want there to be the heart. I want there to be like a prison wigger, like a prigger.
You know what I'm saying?
Like he wants to be a black dude and he's in prison so he hangs out there.
Oh, a prigger.
I like that.
Yeah, I want a prigger.
Is there any priggers up in prison?
See, I don't know if that's going to work because I really, I think it's the, I think
the prison actually is a microcosm of a horrible neighborhood. It's the world's worst neighborhood literally
It literally if you were to paint you were to construct the world's worst neighborhood. That would be it
Yeah, now, you know, maybe the South Side of Chicago is bad
Maybe South Central and LA is bad, but this is worse. This is nobody there's no grandmas
Yeah, and everyone's a criminal
That's your next book ain't no grandma's in prison. So you take a look at it. Take a look at it this way
you have the worst neighborhood on the planet and that's called prison and
Bad neighborhoods have gangs and the reason you have to join a gang is for protection
So you do this horrible cycle thing where it's like, well, that little 12-year-old boy,
he didn't want to be a Cripper blood, but his territory was that.
That's where he lived.
He had to join up with these guys.
He needed protection to get to school, so on and so forth.
So prison is basically that.
There's no independence in prison.
There's no, you know, Rand Pauls in prison.
Right, but then there comes a lot, like where I grew up, we were really seriously dirt poor.
That joke works well in prison.
And, but the, oh God, that's one, it kills in prison, kills in Cellboy 10.
But where I grew up, like the poorer you were, if you were a really poor white dude, you
were black.
And the really poor white dudes hung out with the black dudes and nobody cared.
Well, I gotta say it's weird because the socioeconomic thing, we do this thing all the time where
you are this, but you're really not that. We judge you by your income and by many other
things. For instance, it's like, well, O.J.'s not really black. He lives in
Brentwood and he dates a blonde chick.
But now you're saying class is what's important.
Class. This is where we go. I, like, you take Kevin, I'm sorry, Kevin James, he ran for
mayor here a few weeks back in the election. He was openly gay. It was never discussed.
It was, you're not gay, you're Republican.
You can't be gay and Republican.
It was like that way too.
Black folk who go Republican, you're not black.
You're Republican, give me a break.
And it was weird, because I grew up
and our richest friend was named Tom Dent.
He was black.
And he was, his dad was a hand surgeon.
And he lived in one of the biggest houses up in what we call the heat. He's right associated with the black
Damn guys. I'm surprised. He had all his Jewish friends. Why did he do you? Oh, you thought you're here?
So he did he lived in Hebrew Heights himself. He lives in Hebrew Heights answers make a lot of money
It actually back then yes answers and dad in the 80s hand surgeon drove a Porsche 928. There you go. Tom was cool dude. He was great, great in the classroom, went off to UCLA, so on
and so forth. And we, the white trash friends in the valley. In the lowlands. Yeah, we would,
our whole thing was we got to get up to Tom's house so we can get some food. His dad had a big screen TV,
like the kind that had the projector in the front,
a spaceship, the different colored bulbs,
the three colored bulbs in the front.
And we just sat there like, oh, he's got a swimming pool.
He's got that TV set.
He's like from another planet to you guys.
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like you could even like relate how do you well it was did relate? Well it was...
Did you wonder why he was with you guys?
He liked us, we're funny.
He liked hosting these, you know, events at his house.
It was cool that he had a big house and a swimming pool.
We'd go play around.
Later on he put a jacuzzi in.
Oh my god, tub of water that shoots bubbles out of it.
Oh my god.
And we knew he was black, but it
didn't, I wouldn't factor it in. He was the rich friend and we'd go to Tom's house to
eat. Tom had a car. I remember when we all drove to Tijuana one time. Oh, he was a part
of that? Oh, he was part of the group. We drove to Tijuana and my sister's car, it's like 67 Dodge Dart that I borrowed, blew
up halfway, maybe two thirds of the way down there.
Wait, did his parents see him get picked up in that car?
Probably not.
No.
They came down.
No way.
And he got, so the point is this, when that car blew up, we needed somebody, there were five people in that car,
we needed a new car to continue our journey to Tijuana.
We weren't going to turn around and head back to our tails between our legs.
And so thus, we needed somebody to not only bring us a new car,
but a second car to drive that person home after they went to San Juan Capistrano and dropped off the new car.
That was Tom. That was Tom's sister. That was Tom's new Toyota Celica. And that was Tom's mom who followed them all, whatever.
Now, he was the brother in the group, but his family was intact, and they had money, and his dad was a surgeon,
and we were all poor trash and nobody had a car
And anything so it was this thing where it's mostly about class
It's not really about tone or skin color except that class thing doesn't work as well in prison
You're saying that that breaks down then you got a joint then you need to join a gang then you're color-coded
It's like right how do I know what people to hate well choose them by the color you need?
It's like, daddy, how do I know what people to hate? Well, choose them by the color.
You need protection because you're in the worst neighborhood
on the planet.
And if you're my writing partner, Kevin Hinch,
you have to get a tattoo of I love Hitler on your forehead
because you're going to get killed by one
of the other neighboring groups if you don't.
I think it's time now that you and I and Dr. Drew,
we change that in prison. Let's make prison
a friendlier place to be for all races. There's your problem. I agree. First thing,
start pumping in classical music. Yep. And get mellow people out. Get that going
because everybody gets mellowed. Classical music actually makes me mad.
Like this is real. If I'm driving and I have it on classical and the more the speed
picks up, now you've made me the more anxious guy.
No, we're brethren, I feel you.
But I start going with the rhythm of the music and I'll find myself driving really fast and
angry if I'm listening to certain things.
Well, no, you watch too many movies and it sounds like a sound if they start playing the
theme from gladiator you're gonna start driving harder it's funny it's
interesting I like classical music and my good friend Dennis Prager likes
classical music and he says the best stuff being composed now is for movies
and I never thought about it like who's making new classical music. Yeah it's the good stuff the really good stuff is just
being made for these sweeping epic movies. It's so emotionally
driven. Yeah I mean you think about any just Star Wars and stuff that kind of stuff.
Well it's where the greatest talents go because the greatest rewards are there.
Right. Like anything else right? Right. Yeah that's what it is. All right, Gary, by the way,
LA Comedy Shorts Film Festival,
and that is tonight, April 4th through Sunday, April 7th.
What is in it, in terms of making a short,
what is in it for the film maker?
I mean, is it a calling card, a stepping stone?
Is there money physically to be made from the short itself
or is it more just a step to the next and bigger plateau?
You're asking all the right questions
and you're doing with the right vocal tone, by the way.
Thank you, Gary.
But you know, shorts used to be,
they used to be a calling card,
but now you can actually make money doing shorts.
Like, well, our festival people win cash prizes,
but we also set them up with meetings, with production
companies, with agents, with managers.
But more importantly than that there are all these people coming along like Amazon and
iTunes, all kinds of folks are looking for short comedy content producers and directors
and writers and like literally giving them jobs.
People walk into our festival, meet other people there
and come out with jobs and TV shows
and shows on the internet.
You can make money with it now.
I think like workaholics on Comedy Central
and people like that were doing that kind of internet based
shorter stuff.
Always say in Philadelphia.
Yeah, all that stuff.
So really that's, you you know I've said it a
million times you show me I never understood the pilot process that
meaning the ABC NBC CBS here I've screwed up a few of them but here's two
point three million dollars give us a half hour or 22 minute finished product
that's shot over the course
of weeks and all the writing and all the rewriting and stuff like that.
I basically just say to somebody, you show me an eight minute version of whatever you're
thinking about and if I ain't laughing by minute three, that's probably it.
It's like saying, make me a muffin and let me taste it. I don't know, it's like saying make me a muffin and let me taste it.
I don't need 200 muffins. You don't need the whole muffin. I don't need the whole muffin. I know you
can bake. If not, we do man show bits. They were three minutes long. They were either funny or they
weren't. If somebody showed me one and it wasn't very funny, I'd go, all right, well that guy's no
good. I wouldn't go like, well that particular one wasn wasn't very good I'd go that and if you showed me one that
was hysterical I'd go I want to work with that guy yeah you don't you don't
need a lot of time to know if something is good and in that I agree with you
even you're talking about eight minutes to show proof to me give me five minutes
if you can't hit me like for a TV show a sizzle for a TV show you can't hit me
within five minutes and convince me
These characters are sustainable and the shits just funny right and don't even do it. No, it's weird because I did it
Times two and plus with the network, you know, I did top gear pilot
That thing was an hour long, you know traveling all over the country and blowing up cars and stuff like that
Millions of dollars and then I just said, I'd literally do,
you know, like there's an animator named Michael Naran.
He's illustrated a few things that Dr. Drew and I.
The thing for the show, the art.
The logo for the show, logo for the show.
Yeah, but I mean, he's illustrated stuff over our words.
Oh yeah.
And you can see in these three minute,
little funny little videos,
get the one with David Allen Greer just to make Gary laugh.
But yeah, there's one of those by the way in the festival just we'll go there and talk
about.
An animated thing?
There's two of them from you.
From me?
You don't even know that.
Michael Maron thing?
Yeah, two of their pieces.
Of Corolla's pieces.
I have two animated pieces of it.
Am I the lawyer on the block?
No, don't worry about your lawyer.
He can't answer his phone today, man.
He's busy.
But think about the market efficiency. I don't don't worry about your lawyer. He can't answer his phone today, man. He's busy. But think about think
about the market efficiency. But hey, you you fat cats, Adam, you're out of
business. They're good. They throw $20 million a year at pilots. These guys go
out for 1000 bucks and and live out their fantasy. And by the way, in this
phone is basically the equivalent of a technology used to require an entire
movie studio to recreate.
It's in my hand.
And so people can just go do this and if it's good, somebody will find it and the market
will play it out from there.
We just make it easier for people to find.
They just come there and see it.
I said, hold on a second, I did say, it's funny, I was saying, so I was saying, well,
I did one pilot for NBC and one pilot for CBS and there's five million dollars out the window wasted
They'll never see the light of day
And then I said I don't get why they wouldn't do just a little short animated and then I ran into Fox and Fox a little
Bit smarter. They're like alright. Here's 500 to 700 grand do an animatic
Yeah, do a nine minute version of this
Here's the the the MO in reality now is
that, here's no money. Right. That's how reality is sold.
You can watch, you can look up Michael there and you can go to our page.
This is me and David A.
Dr. Drew from Loveline. Now we didn't know this was being animated.
He did this, he pulled it, It did this after the fact. Yeah
There's some of that sweeping music. Yeah, this is a good kind of
True when suitors start coming around wanting to why'd we jump forward? Oh
more seconds
You know would be really funny as if I got hold of the kid first.
I put an IFB in his ear, we just put a little speaker thing in his ear.
And Drew, he'd be coming in and he'd be like,
Hey Dr. Drew, and you'd be like, what's your GPA?
Then your goddamn business point, actually.
And you'd be the kid.
How you doing Dr. Drew? Are you doing Mr. Drew?
I would like to prolapse the anus of your daughter. Where you going man? What did I
say?
So Drew, you ask him and I'll be in his ear.
So David, what do you study now? Are you in high school or college?
Studying how to kick the white man's ass.
I'm studying how to kick the white man's ass. Oh'm studying how to kick the white man's ass!
Oh, that's very nice. What religious persuasion are you?
Why don't you quit pushing, honky? Why don't you quit pushing, honky?
I see. Did you finish high school?
You're gonna give your daughter an eating disorder. You wanna give me one too?
What?
Right down on that.
I'm gonna give your daughter something to eat, hon.
Oh, wait. What did you say? I'm gonna break down an ass. I'm gonna give your daughter something to eat on. Oh, wait, what did you say?
I'm...uh...
Yo.
Meet me in the van.
Don't say it!
I'm gonna break down an ass!
No, Adam, Adam in the van!
No, cut to the driveway!
Okay then.
Don't repeat what I'm saying!
Don't repeat what I'm saying. Don't repeat what I'm saying. Don't repeat what I'm saying.
You idiot.
You idiot.
That's hilarious, man.
Yeah, it's funny and it was funny because it all just kind of improvised in real time
from back in the day.
That's good stuff.
Well, if you've really watched the nuances of Dag in that, I spoke to him yesterday,
by the way, from the airport. He was in the San
Francisco airport and he had to hang up because his daughter was running away. That's all
he needed to know. If you look at that, I came up with this sort of concept of I'm going
to put an IFP in your ear and you repeat what I say to Dr. Drew. And he got his stupid prolapse anus thing out
and then he got into the ear and he started repeating it.
But he did two where he repeated it,
but then the third one was the joke one.
That's when he fucked up.
Because you couldn't just keep repeating what I'm saying.
The joke would just kind of coast to a stop.
So we did one, two, like sort of set up, set up,
and then bam with, I want to give your
daughter something to eat on.
That's what we did.
But he did this all in real time.
And then when he came back to the van and I said, don't repeat what I'm saying, he immediately
went in.
He had the IFB in his ear as far as he was concerned.
He was actually playing that out. Yeah, I'm just saying from an improvisational standpoint, that should be shown at colleges
as to here's how you jump in and here's...
He knew where every joke was going.
He knew where I was heading.
I was yelling, don't say anything about the van.
He was heading back to the van.
He was yelling, headed back to the van.
It was all that.
Because you guys are both in that same world playing that game together and that's good
listening and good improv skills. Yeah, a lot of people with a sense of humor
want to stand outside of that world and comment on it and make jokes about it.
While they're in it? Well, you're not in it.
No, I'm not saying but that's their conceit. Well, no, yeah, you can't stand next to, I
tell people all the time, sometimes people I work with, don't stand
next to the conversation and make comments about it. Jump into the conversation. And I've always
said that's why Drew's good because Drew doesn't... No, doesn't think. He knows he's not funny.
He knows he's not entertaining. He knows nobody likes it. No, he has to be engaged in the conversation
Because that's what he does. Yeah comedians are going
What's a joke? What's a joke? What's a joke?
Especially stand-ups stand-ups are always thinking what's the joke?
Where do I get my punchline or my pre-written thing and the improv guys kind of go along with it?
But but you expect me to know where your jokes are and I try. No, no.
And sometimes I know, but a lot of times I don't know.
It's all step on it with a conversation.
No, no.
You do know.
You know too well.
Your problem is you're so daft when it comes to humor, to understanding humor that when
I'm trying to set something up, you jump to the conclusion and step on it,
which is semi-retarded for guys been doing this as long as you've been doing this.
Like, I'll do this thing where I'll go like, well, it's weird.
It's a nervous thing.
It's like, you have to help me.
But it's the kind of thing where I'll go, it's a funny story.
I was complaining to my wife all week about putting her keys in the same place
and not forgetting her keys.
And then I went out to the car and guess who locked,
you did, you locked yourself out.
Yes, yes it was me.
But thanks for, why jump in?
Maybe he's just playing for the edit though.
He's like, we're not gonna have time for this whole bit.
Let's just get to the good stuff.
Let me help you out.
He has a weird Tourette's with that.
Well, part of my, I feel like part of my job is to keep the momentum jumping forward and
I usually am pretty good at that, but occasionally if I don't anticipate where you're going,
which is what you're complaining about, which is true, because I don't see it.
I just don't see it.
And so I jump on it and it's like, oh, I'm trying.
I'm trying. No, no. It's an uncomfortable in And so I jump on it and it's like, oh, I'm trying.
No, no. It's an uncomfortable in your own skin moment.
Part of it's that. For sure.
You have to help the person.
Yeah, for sure.
It's like when people...
That's why it happens. But the what is happening is a little more cognitive.
I'll tell you one thing you do, Drew. I'll give you a couple uncomfortable in your own
skin things.
Thank you.
I'm going to cross my fingers.
This is the anxiety thing.
Thank you. my fingers. Somebody will say every single time, if somebody says, I'm a huge fan, I
was a huge fan of Loveline from back in the day, Drew will go, okay, but, and, now, tell
me what? You know, because you're expecting them to go, but now you've changed man, you're
not as cool as you used to be.
And I'll go, Drew, maybe they're just saying they're a huge fan.
Don't do the, but what?
Maybe they're just giving you a compliment.
It's in the same category as the jumping on you, same zone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
It's also the same zone that has me not wanting to talk about myself
or talk on stage when you, or I demean myself on stage assuming they won't want
to hear from me and then you get pissed at me.
We went through that a couple of times, right?
Well, I'm just saying, don't go on stage
and don't split the money then if you assume
that people don't want to hear what you have to say.
Stay home.
All right, Drew.
I've learned a lot.
You have learned.
I'll tell you, I was, but here's how you have to, Drew,
here's what you need to do.
Yeah, listening.
And, Dick, Gary will probably teach you some of this too.
Yeah, let me help.
Right.
Which is, first thing, when a comedian starts
telling a story, when a comedian starts going down a road,
assume it's gonna end at a punchline,
because it's a comedian.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
When your wife does it, or a politician does it, don't assume it's going to end there.
But when a comedian starts to go down that road, assume it's going to be there.
And I'll give you an example.
I was in a cab, no, I was in a van with Penn Jillette.
And we were doing like Celebrity Apprentice whatever week and they put everyone in the
van. celebrity apprentice whatever week and they put everyone in the van and Penn
Gillette and I were staying in the same hotel. Van picked us up about 8 a.m. to
take us to Trump Tower or whatever and Penn Gillette who's always holding court
was holding court in the van of six or seven celebrities and he said I was on
the subway this morning and a woman sat next to me and my first impulse was I
ate dinner with him.
We were up sort of having dinner that night at the same restaurant last night until 10,
10.30, whatever.
And he was getting up at 7 early.
And my first impulse, I knew where he was last night.
I knew what hotel we stayed at the same hotel.
And I was thinking, why were you on a subway? Where were you going this morning after work out at 6 30 in the morning? Penjolet?
Where were you going on a subway? Nothing's open. Where were you going? No museums or anything?
And I started to go where were you going on this sub? And then I realized he's telling a joke
That's his I caught myself and went he's telling a story that's gonna end up with a punchline, right?
So I stifled myself and sure enough he ended up. Yeah with a joke. I get that that's Penn Jillette
I get it and that's me. I get that and I learned to hold myself back. I think you would say I'm better
I am nowhere near perfect
Because a lot of time you and I are just engaged in conversation and I don't realize I don't pay attention
To when you're going towards joke and I need't realize, I don't pay attention to when you're going
towards a joke and I need to pay more attention to that.
Well, if you would like the ultimate and you don't know what a comedian or when a comedian
is making a joke, joke.
Or the con, again, the context of things.
It's an interesting topic, context, meaning I'm being, I get my feet held to the fire because I'm up on stage
doing a live comedy show and someone yells out,
what do you think of Chas Bono?
And I make a joke that's not flattering to Chas Bono.
But I cannot, if somebody yells,
what do you think your mother-in-law?
And I say, she's a wonderful, courageous individual,
and I have much love and respect for the woman.
You guys laughing?
Is anyone at the club laughing?
If I have to say that old battle axe,
and then we're getting laughter, hold on a second.
So context, context, context.
OK, so we're in Salt Lake City, you and I.
You start off with the talk about how you
observed some flags on the street corners, which story-wise we ought to share with this
audience by the way, it's pretty funny. But I'm not sure at the start of that conversation,
am I in this? Is this a joke? Are we...
Well, it's going to be something.
It's going to attempt at humor.
It's going be it's gonna be it's gonna attempt to be it's gonna attempt at humor. It's gonna be interesting
Maybe Adam you're too seamless in your comedy
Yeah, I can't be helped
You may just be too brilliant and weaving weaving regular life into
comedic bits well
I am pretty good at it, but but then Drew knows it's coming or
should know it's coming but context and I'll give you guys. Well let's go to the flags. The flags in the
Salt Lake City. You start with an interesting observation. I want to engage in that
conversation. That's fine. You were fine with it. But when I engaged. But you did jump the I think you jumped the. Yes
because I now I'm in conversation I forget that there's a joke coming so I
have to really have an observing sort of...
Well, how did you jump the ship on? How did you...
I think I almost jumped on the homeless thing where you talked about what the homeless people
would do with it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was... I've noticed that in Salt Lake City and Kirkland, Washington are the only two
other places outside of Seattle where they have flags there for crossing the street which from LA's
This are the city that has barbed wire around every every freeway sign. This means I
Just look for indicators like why you should move to this city
Yeah, you know when people go arts our standardized testing is 10% higher in math and social studies
I'm like, I don't give a fuck about that.
Show me those flags.
That'll get me there.
That'll let me know that you have a city that has no problems with people that return things
when they walk to the other side of the street and so on and so forth.
I don't look for the major indications.
I don't want to see some Forbes report with a Fortune 500 or anything.
Show me flags
For crossing the street. I'll show you a city without a problem that I need to go to and you went from that
And I now start jumping in but you were building to the homeless guy and I missed that that's alright
You reminded me of a good thing, which was the Rhino at the airport
the Rhino at the airport. See, now, once again, your seamlessness.
Now I would have thought Adam's got to be done after this flag bit.
He can't go further.
It must be over.
But you've proven that there was another step.
There was a homeless step to this.
Well, he said, because I thought it was very funny, he goes, if this were Los Angeles,
a homeless person would take those flags
time together with dental floss and fashion a coat out of it yeah as i
thought that was fun as a coat whatever is it what it was just funnier and it
was jumpsuit right yeah and a lot of brief jumpsuit you see guys walk around
in orange jumpsuits that were dented together with dental floss
I mean kids have stolen my sprinkler heads off of my front lawn
oh yeah I know they would take one of those.
Why wouldn't you take that?
Listen, you'd take it just on lack of principle.
If you lived in LA, meaning I don't want to take this thing that's not chained down like
a pen at a bank, but I must.
I live in LA and it's not attached to anything and there's nobody standing there with a flashlight
and a gun telling me I can't do it.
No razor wire around it.
No razor wire around it.
I would take them and replace it
with a different type of flag on the other side.
I'd replace it with a gay flag
or a rebel flag on the other side.
Mix it up.
I would take one, but I would leave one.
That's how I always do in life.
Wow.
Gary, I think you're onto something here,
which is I would would as the city provide
You could do the Jewish star. No. Yeah, you're gay flag
Yes, your own sort of novelty flag rebel flag and then express yourself and let the drivers decide who they want
Cause trouble for the they're literally gay bashing. That would literally bashing.
Because you're waving the gay flag.
Right.
No, maybe different neighborhoods, Fairfax could have the Jewish flag and Santa Monica
over there could have the gay flag.
Just pick your flag.
I like that.
That's good.
Say something about the town you're in too.
Yeah.
Be proud. I like that. That's good. I was saying something about the town you're in too. Yeah. Vittel.
Be proud.
I was recently reminded in my beautiful neighborhood
of Sherman Oaks that I wasn't in Inglewood,
a lady told me one day.
Wow, you've been there.
Why?
Because I was backing out of my driveway
and I didn't see her.
And she said- That is the most
ass-holish thing I've ever heard anybody say.
It really just, it made me want to go
and break her windows in at night. Yes
She was she lived up the street somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm dead serious. He's like this is an idea
How you smile at that shit that is no at the time?
I at the time I just thought once again, I didn't want to go to prison and have to choose a group
Yeah, that's what you think
It's not that easy though because there aren't any Crips and Bloods in my neighborhood.
No, in prison.
I don't have it in prison.
In prison it'll be fine.
I know, but I don't know which Cripper blood.
Well listen, you have the coin, it's red on one side, it's blue on the other, you flip
it, and that's what works in prison.
I'm going to be the dude who paints himself half red down one side and blue down the other.
I'm about to unite some shit.
You don't understand.
Some shit's about to get united up in federal penitentiary. Yeah, you you unify it is what's
gonna happen. Yeah, I'm sad that that neighbor said that said that to you. This isn't Englewood.
The one good thing about it is to know that not everybody's that way. My mother said long ago,
you can't change everybody.
Those are things, like some people are old and stupid
and you're not gonna change them no matter what you say.
Well, can I make this observation as well?
Yes.
There are people that are racist,
and then there are people that are attempting
to insult people as quickly as they possibly can.
So let's say...
Isn't there an overlap in those two groups?
Yep.
But what I'm saying is there's a large group of people that are...
Look, you get cut off by a fat guy and it's, hey, fat ass, watch your road.
You know what I mean?
Now, you may have friends and family
that are fat, you may not have anything against fat people,
but you're looking for the first thing
that you can grab physically.
Baldi, bucktooth, frillo head,
whatever comes out of their mouth.
I become immediately pussy, bleeding heart,
all the way in, myself. Well that's what I would call you. Hey, pussy, bleeding heart, all the way in, myself.
I become like-
Well, that's what I would call you.
Hey, pussy, bleeding heart.
You know what I mean?
I'm trying to make fun of your frames, maybe.
There's nothing good for Drew to really,
you just have to hang your hat on.
Because to me, it's so revealing.
It's like, ugh.
Well, she didn't just go,
hey, man, you black.
She took it to a neighborhood.
Wild black man. You're wild, out of control black man.
Apparently people are always backing up without looking in Englewood.
Like, fuck, is that a problem?
I gotta watch out when I'm in Englewood.
I will carry my flag in Englewood.
Like, don't back into the movement.
The spinners on the Denali's probably, what I call a tell.
I gotta have my spinners.
When my car stops moving, I don't want to stop moving.
I know, but you're asking, you're really asking for more of that behavior from neighbors.
I put spinners on my kids tennis shoes, man.
I'm about spinners, Adam.
Speaking about kids, you guys kids are in the same school, right?
They were.
They were.
We're in the same school.
They were.
How was Adam received by the parent community at the school?
Loved. No, they're like Lynette. They're. How was Adam received by the parent community at the school? Loved.
What?
No, they liked Lynette.
They would bake breads for him.
Again, they loved Lynette.
Drew!
They tried to appease him.
Powerful.
Hold on.
Gary, Drew.
What?
You guys are like a domino.
You're the whitest and the blackest all, but together.
You know what I mean?
I know.
Honestly.
Yeah, we're mash- honestly yeah we're both anxious I
got a very I've maybe maybe Kerry knows something about this but dig just dig
and and I can help I think I can help heal this city I was at one of the
school functions say bake sale or something that I was a bread threat him again. I was auctioning off something
I think they got me into being the auctioneer at the bake sale. You just walk in and start auctioning. They actually got you into it
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Carrie was dressed up like a sharecropper walking around.
I don't know what that outfit was called.
I don't have a non-racist name for whatever that was.
I don't think sharecropper is racist, but go ahead.
All right, all right.
Huck Finn sort of carried that.
Put that one.
I'm going to the other room.
A piece of wheat sticking out of the car. Let's go with sharecropper. Pretty close. Let's go back to sharecropper. Alright alright, huh, Finn sort of care
Pretty close, okay, so
I'm up there doing my thing and a guy kind of light-skinned brother named chip
Yeah, you know chip chip Matthews chip. Yeah, you know chip. Okay. I don't I don't I didn't follow chip too closely, but
Chip comes up to me and he goes or maybe I come up to Chip. I recognize him. I go. Hey man. Hey Chip
He's hey man. I said, you know Chip we worked together many years ago doing earthquake rehab work for the city of Los Angeles
Oh my god. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah And he and I said, you know, I gave you your to my one of my tool bags cuz he didn't own tool bags and he said yeah
Yeah, he put it on a dress belt. He literally took a tool bag. It was an electrician's tool bag
I remember had a little bit different than a carpenter's tool bag leather
Slid it through like a Gucci belt and I said what are you doing now? And he said, I'm an attorney, I think. I
believe he's an attorney. You're nodding yes, Gary. Yes, all these things are true. So right. And so
I was like, man, and I said, ever talked to any of the old guys or whatever? We have discussed,
you know, brought up some names. We should. Yeah. And I said, you ever talk to Jeff or any of the old guys?
He said, oh fuck that guy, man, that guy's a racist.
And I said, no, no, Jeff's a cool guy,
Jeff's not a racist.
And he said, oh yeah, he's a racist.
And I said, why, how do you know?
And he said, he was always a dick to me.
And I said, oh.
He was always a dick to you too, probably.
No, he was just that dude from Topanga
Yeah, and I said I said oh I said chip
You know why he was a dick to you the whole time and he said no, I don't I said well
How do you think you got that job working for the city and he said I just wanted to applied
I said I know but you had no construction background. No history as a carpenter. He was a non-carpenter.
He was a zero.
I mean, it was actually sort of physically dangerous
for him to do earthquake rehab,
which is kind of healthy, dangerous,
it's scary work underneath buildings
using roto hammers, things like that.
I said, how do you think you got that job, Chip?
And he said, I don't know, I showed up and I applied.
I said, because you're black.
And they needed, the city jobs needed to fill quotas.
We had a woman working on, she didn't know anything.
Chip didn't know anything.
We had a bunch of people that didn't know anything.
And then there was, you know, me and Jeff Gaines
who knew something, because that was our business.
We got onto it, we'd been doing that
for a number of years beforehand.
I said, the reason Jeff was a dick to you is because Jeff, his life's ambition was to be a fireman
and he put in just like I did many years ago an application to be LA City
firefighter but they told him it'd be about an eight-year wait or a ten-year
wait because they weren't hiring white guys. So he was volunteering with the Topanga Fire Department
and doing all this taking fire science classes
at the junior college and training every weekend
to be a fireman, except for he had to work
this shitty construction gig for 10 years
before they would let him be a fireman.
So when he met you, you were the embodiment
of what you got there making
this. It was a high dollar job. The city job is like $19.50 an hour when we were
all making nine bucks an hour because the city does... Here's why the city's
broke. They paid the laborers more than they paid the carpenters, which on the
job site is total insanity. The laborers get seven bucks, the carpenters get 15
bucks, you know. The other way around. Oh, is it labor or say it again on a jobs? Labor's get seven bucks. Carpenters get 15 in the city
Oh, they pay the laborers more. Yeah, I was made a laborer
Because I was the best carpenter, huh? So I could it was everyone said well give Adam the extra buck 50
You don't want to give it to chip. He doesn't know what he's doing make Adam a laborer
So I could get paid, you know buck 25 an hour more because the city hates money
Then you populate this job site with people who don't know anything about construction
But they have a certain color or a certain sex organ or they're missing one. Did he mistreat the woman too?
No, I don't I don't believe he did, but I don't know.
I'd have to talk to her.
If I talked to her, she probably did.
So he was douchey to Chip.
Chip had it better than all of us,
because I remember he was going to college
and he was working at a restaurant or something like that
and then he went on to be a lawyer.
So again, it should be a socioeconomic thing,
not a color of your skin thing. Oh, shut up. the point no Chip, Chip I talked to Chip I like Chip I
got along with Chip I gave my fucking tool bag but I remember him saying I go
to such-and-such a college or whatever or grad school or whatever I'm gonna be
a lawyer and I remember thinking oh you're doing pretty good for yourself
everyone else is just bunked up in apartments in North Hollywood. So Jeff
hated Chip because Chip stood for the system that was shut up fucking Jeff and
Helping pushing chip along and chip didn't need to be pushed along and it was actually he didn't deserve to be pushed along He didn't have the experience that we had
So if you if you really follow your logic what logic would say, what you're concluding from
your discussion is affirmative action fosters racism.
It helps.
It helps.
It's not that the guy's not a racist.
The guy's still a racist, but it's affirmative action-induced racism.
Well, there's a...
First off, I wanted to be a firefighter and Jeff wanted to be a firefighter.
We couldn't.
Listen, I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
I'm saying that's what it is, right?
No, it helps. No, I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm saying that's what it is, right?
No, I don't say it fosters racism, it fosters people resenting other people.
Race and sex.
No, yeah, but specifically resented this person.
I don't know, I don't feel like Jeff resented black people, this guy represents.
So it does foster some of that.
And it also, to me, should all be socioeconomic.
Whatever your lowest.
This is what the Supreme Court's looking at right now,
these very issues, right?
The biggest problem is it brings into question,
if I was a black guy and I got into Harvard
on my own merits, I wouldn't want to walk around campus
having people thinking, ugh, or American Indian. Do you know what I'm saying? Or whatever group they're looking
for. If you're American Indian guy and you're walking around Harvard, you know the white
kids are going like and the Asian kids are going like, really? Was his SAT score as high
as mine? Or did he really want a guy who was part Cherokee?
The beauty of this is my kid is black and white and we get to decide what his race is
every year.
Is your wife black?
No, but...
Oh, I don't get that.
I'm colorblind, Gary.
Yeah, I know.
I'm colorblind.
I'm colorblind.
You don't see color.
I smell it, but I don't see it.
Yeah, you smell.
I can smell an engine a mile away.
Is that grape soda?
But you don't see them.
I smell something.
You know what? Blacks don't drink grape soda? But you don't see them. I smell something.
You know what?
Blacks don't drink grape soda anymore.
We're into orange now.
Oh, thank you.
But my kid, since he...
Is that Orangina?
That is Orangina.
And I'm Italian.
But my kid, we get to choose every year.
He was white last year, and this year when he went to school, he's in public school.
So we find out from his school they need more kids of color.
So I told him this year, I was like, dude, you're black this year. He's like public school. So we find out from his school they need more kids of color. So I told him this year
I was like dude, you're black this year. He's like, all right
He gets to make that choice every he looks like a black. I have no problem with individuals. Yeah, it's great
Yeah, that system set up for you. Go go
Yeah, why not?
Must have more kids of color
But Adam you're advocating classism.
You're actually actively advocating for class.
I know I'm basically saying I was as poor as I could be and had parents that were very
poor and would have made a hell of a fireman when I was 19.
But I don't think anybody's heard this about your family of origin. Right. Losers?
I would like them to factor in the fact that I had no other alternatives and no safety
net.
There's a perceived, there's a perceived, you know, it's in the fabric of our society,
which is, oh, he's white, he'll land on his feet, he's got a network, he's my dad's around,
he's going to take care of him.
Not in my case.
I didn't have that.
Well, so you're making a case for affirmative action for underclass, which is an interesting case.
Yeah, I'm saying, I'm saying, well, no, here's what I want to say. If you want to be a fireman,
first thing I want is the best fireman, especially when it's someone carrying your kid out of
a building. You don't want a diminutive woman carrying your child out of a building. So
first is, give me the best.
And when it comes to building and doing earthquake rehab, potentially dangerous
work and potentially dangerous consequences if it's not done correctly, I
want a good carpenter. I don't want a guy who's a lawyer now who's wearing a
dress belt named Chip and I like Chip. Chip was not a good carpenter.
Chip will readily admit that that wasn't his thing.
He just wanted to help the city.
But the problem is white dudes in power
tend to hire white dudes.
I don't believe that.
Oh, come on.
I'm sorry.
I did walk around your studio and saw all the Negroes hanging
out here.
I'm the blackest thing ever stepped in here
other than the curtain behind you.
Let's not be crazy.
No.
First off, when it comes to color, I think there are certain jobs and certain professions that attract certain groups for reasons that probably go back further
than we know.
There's just certain groups, Asians, Hispanics, different jobs attract different groups across time across time
Per unit time. Yeah, it may change from one year to the next decade to the next kind of thing
Yeah, yeah number number one number two
I never worked with any brothers and
What do you mean any black people? What do you mean? I've worked with them never worked never work construction all the years
I work in truck. I work with just Mexicans What do you mean? Any black people. What do you mean, I've worked with them? Never worked construction. All the years I worked construction.
I worked with just Mexicans.
I never worked with any Jews.
They were doing something else.
I never worked with any Asians.
They were doing something else.
Indian guys.
I never worked with any of-
Asian Indians.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Asian or Asian Indian, anybody.
I worked with white guys and Mexican guys because the brothers
didn't want to do that kind of work.
It's not that they weren't being hired.
The guy who hired them don't have any, there's no difference between, if you're a racist,
there's no difference between black and Mexican to the guy who's doing the hiring.
You're just someone who's different color than them and not them in terms of, and they
want to get the job done. They really do. Like even them in terms of and they want to get the job done
They really do like even if they hate you they want to get the job done
Yeah, the brothers did not want to do that work. They did not physically want to dig ditches
It felt like olden times to them. I suspect I don't know what the answer was. This is an LA
It's not it's not Atlanta thing. It's an LA thing. Please speak up.
Ask your brother. I will tell you that, like you said, not an LA thing, not an Atlanta
thing. My daddy grew up doing construction.
I know. Atlanta, there's crews. Black crews.
But when you said that about if you're white, you'll hire black or Mexican, it doesn't
matter. That's just to say that there's no gradients of racism and there is. Like racists
think, oh, okay, well, he's Asian, but Asians are smart, blacks are lazy, or
Mexicans are this.
Whatever that's all of this.
But it's all racism.
It's all racism.
Well, it's not racism.
It's earned.
Whatever, what, oh.
Well, it's, yeah, okay.
Let's just agree.
Drew, you love your kid very much, right?
Yes.
He's being looked at right now, medically.
If he was to travel, if he was on vacation, and he was to break down physically, have
appendicitis, would you rather it be in Mexico or Germany?
We had something like that happen in Spain with him, same kid.
I treated him myself.
Mexico or Germany?
All right, Spain.
Germany. Why Germany? Because you're racist? Well. Mexico or Germany? Alright, Spain. Germany. Why Germany?
Because you're racist? Well... Why not
Mexico? You don't think there's fine Mexican
doctors? Right. The system is better in
Germany. That's the bottom line. Why is the system better? Because, I don't know, must be all
those Germans. Okay, well what? So you pick
Germany. Yeah. So you're racist. I'm not
saying there's... You're judging. I'm a nationalist. I'm not saying there's not a difference in people.
Obviously, not everybody is the exact same, but you can't tell... unless you're racist. I'm not saying there's not a difference in people. Obviously not everybody is the exact same, but you can't tell, unless you're just one
of the good ones, Adam, you can't tell me that there aren't white dudes out there who
would prefer to hire a white dude before they look at other people.
There's black dudes who would prefer to hire black dudes.
I never said there wasn't.
I'm not saying there's not a flip side of it.
There's some of that out there, but it's mainly merit based.
Well, hang on a second.
Maybe that's comfort based because people feel like much more comfortable around the certain people.
They have a common heritage or common understanding.
Once again, I'm going to unite.
But that's racism.
But listen, listen, Drew, there was a study I asked someone tweeted to me, asked him to retweet it to me.
I haven't found it yet, but it said bank lending. Bank lend to lowest blacks.
They get the least.
And then whites are above blacks.
Do you know what the highest is?
Asian.
All right.
I talked to a guy, a bank lender said it was Mexicans.
No.
Well, not according to this article,
but the point is this.
Banks wanna make money,
and they wanna make their money back. When they give you 100,000 bucks or 500,000 bucks to this article, but the point is this. Banks want to make money and they want to make their money back.
When they give you $100,000 or $500,000 for a house, they want it back.
Now, they may be racist, I don't know, but their first priority is getting paid back.
So white bank owner is going to give to Asian who has higher FICO score than white guy who
has lower FICO score or black guy who has lower FICO score or black guy who has
lower FICO score in that order.
Now maybe he'd like to give it to the white guy more because he looks more like him but
ultimately when it comes to business he'll give it to the Asian guy who looks nothing
like him in his granddaddy bomb Pearl Harbor because his FICO score is higher.
Now if they're looking at FICO scores it it's one thing, but there was one store,
and I don't know if I can name it, who used to judge people when they walked in in the door.
A loan officer.
Yeah, it was a store where you and I would go buy electronics.
And their whole setup was if this guy walks in the door, and he looks like this,
they gave him a name. That guy is a Charlie. You can sell to that guy. If that guy walks in that guy is an Adam.
They would have literally have code names for them. Don't sell to that guy. They don't
know this guy's FICO score. They don't know anything about him.
That's a group-earned profile. But it's still earned. It's earned.
Listen man, I've been rich and I've been poor. If I go, I will say that, if I go into a bank,
nobody treats me. If they see how much money
I have in the bank, then color's off.
That doesn't matter anymore.
But until that moment, the black guy walked in there.
My thing is, for my domino friends over here.
The two of us?
Yes.
Is black people.
I have to show my back to Adam right now.
Black.
I love none of this.
Drew.
What? You're a doctor, so don't you like statistics?
Love them. Okay. Black men, young black men, create or perpetrate a disproportionately
high number of crime, especially violent crime. Yes or no? It's a disproportionately high.
But yeah, but before the true answer to that, and I'm going to let you go on, is you got
to ask why, but let's forget the why and keep going.
I don't have to ask why if I'm driving a cab.
If I'm a guy from Croatia who's driving a cab.
Then I don't have to ask why when I'm backing out of my driveway and some lady throws racism
in my face for backing up.
But here's what I'm saying.
That's stupid. Stupid of her and stupid of the cab driver.
The guy's driving the cab driver who could be from Africa.
And most of the cab drivers are from somewhere
other than Kentucky.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, you've gotten a cab.
I haven't gotten a guy who's spoken clear English
in a cab in a million years.
Now, he's driving down the street
and he sees an Asian woman on one side of the street and a 19 year old black guy on the other side of the street and they're both hailing the cab. Well, where's driving down the street and he sees an Asian woman on one side of the street and
a 19-year-old black guy on the other side of the street and they're both hailing the
cab.
Well, where is he going?
He's picking up the Asian woman.
Statistically, he is because statistically, it's a higher likelihood.
Statistically, not this one guy.
This guy could be our friend Chip.
But I'm saying statistically, it's higher and that's what he's going to do it.
You want to change that cab driver, you to change the statistics that'll change him you
can't educate him. Yeah but well that's not true you can't educate people. Well you
can tell him all you want pick up the black guy but he's not gonna do it and
tell the statistics change. You pick up the black guy and nothing happens to you bad and you get a
good tip then what? Well hopefully you've changed that guy around but
statistically as long as things are the way they are, he's still gonna pick
up the Asian woman. And statistically, changes will never happen if you keep
doing that. You keep doing the same thing. No, no, no, no, no, statistically you can change things.
Well, statistically, statistically, you keep doing the same action, you're gonna keep
getting that same result. You keep ostracizing the black guy.
Change that action.
No.
I have a class called, I want to be black like Gary.
Adam, I invite you to that class.
I'd like to go.
No, listen, I'm saying it's the other way around.
Change the prison populace.
Where's that class?
Where can I go?
Change the violence, the culture and the violence, and then you'll get that guy picked up.
I think you change it all.
I think.
Well, yeah, you change it all. I think you change it all. Well, yeah, you change it all.
I think you change it all at the same time.
I don't think you're going to change something from the outside to fix the inside.
I think you've got to attack on all.
I'll show you how to fight wars.
Listen, listen.
There's a lot we're going to learn together.
And by the way, I would argue that affirmative action worked.
I would argue that.
That it was a good thing.
Tell Chip and Jeff.
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All right.
I want to give, by the way, I still haven't found out what shorts I'm in that's on that. Oh, yeah, yeah, uh, jash
Jash, ah, yes. Yes. Yeah, they have one they have one of the shorts with you
There on the opening night celebrity night now. I gotta see which one it is
It's really funny, dude tonight by the way, April 4th through Sunday April 7th
La comedy shorts film festival Gary Anthony Williams. Tickets and information at lacommodyshorts.com
and the website is lacommodyshorts.com.
All right, me and Drew,
Redondo Beach Performing Arts Center,
Saturday, April 13th, you get a free glass of,
uh-oh, sit down there, Gary, white man Gryff.
Oh, son of a bitch!
You want to support the show?
How about it?
How about you support us by clicking on our PayPal button and our site and giving a little
bit of love to the great doctor and myself.
And uh, oh, Gary?
Oh, Gary bought, oh you bought case of man Grea for the festival. Yeah. Yeah, man
Oh, yeah, we're gonna be serving on closing night
Wayne Brady will be hosting and we're giving an award to key and peel and we will be serving man Grea there
But to help the pancreatic cancer society. My dad died of it. Oh, yeah, that sucked. It's a horrible
Terrible illness. Yeah, and my my partner Jeannie her dad is suffering from it right now
Oh, I diagnosed but he's actually doing really well have both dads with his crazy. Yeah, he's doing well, which is a good thing
But we're going with donating money from from that night. Yeah
We're big-hearted and we're the least racist festival in the world. Thank you Gary. Why'd you come here?
Talk to this guy. Oh, please. I'm trying to fucking solve some problems here, Drew, you pussy.
I think you cured it.
Don't be a puss.
It's over.
All right.
I talked to Dag yesterday.
Did I mention that?
So until next time, this is Adam Carolla for Gary Anthony Williams and Dr. Drew, Chris
Maxipata, and Gary Haftard saying Mahala.