The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Grit (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)
Episode Date: February 25, 2025Adam and Drew open the show talking about grit and how badly they want their kids to have that quality over almost any other. The discussion then turns to parents and the culture of not wanting to hu...nker down and care for your kids even if you have to do it in a bare bones fashion. Later they take calls including an epileptic man who only has seizures during sex.
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Yeah get it on. Got to get it on no choice but to get it on mandate. Get it on. Good to see you there
Dr. Drew. Good to see you sir. What's happening? Well I was just watching a
little John Stossel the other week and he's a guy I like. I like Stossel cuz he's a... Got a crazy
name. Brass taxi. Oh yeah, John's a nutty name. Oh no, it's Stossel. Okay, I got it. You know, he's just
get your shit together. Do your thing, you know. Constantly kind of comparing, you
know, basically what the private sector can do for 10 grand a student
versus what the city does for 15 grand a student and how much better the test
scores are when you give it to the private sector and then he gets into it
with all the people from this from the teachers unions and he just kept saying
hey take a look at the test and they go hey man I look into a student's eyes and
I can tell what they're learning.
I wish people would have looked into my eyes, by the way, when I was failing every fucking
class.
I wish Mr. Gregory...
You never looked up.
You never looked... You were to the ground constantly.
That's true, but I wish Mr. Gregory would have looked me in the eye when we were talking
about before he failed me for driver's ed and known that I knew a lot about cars and
that I was inherently a good driver and had good
Hand-eye coordination. I wish he would have looked me in the eye instead of just looked at my grades and test scores
Which got which earned me the failure, but I like Stossel and he was talking about grit
He said this country's lost its grit
Oh used to have you know John Wayne and all all the people that settled the West and all that stuff. There was a word grit. We used it a lot.
That guy's got grit. You need grit. One of the... We just knocked it out of it. Right.
Yeah the... The pussy version of it. Grit. Yeah well it it's just something you're
born with. Grit's something you earn.
Yeah.
So we go, oh, that guy's got it.
She's got it.
Look at those eyes.
But that's just something.
That's just how you're sort of laid out.
That's more about bones than it is about hard work.
Bone structure.
Yeah, it really is.
That's right.
So the grit part, and if you think about it,
there's nothing, I've said this a million times,
there's nothing I would want more for my kids
than them to have a healthy dose of grit.
I want them to be, I want them to be tough.
I want them to be resilient.
And I want them to go after things.
Well, your girl's got grit.
Yeah. She's got great
I saw your put your wife posted a Facebook picture of her putting her hand in your face. Talk to the hand
Stop talking. Yeah, she wants me to stop talking. So
She's got grit my boy doesn't have much grit and I worry cuz I want kids to be a little bit tough
I want I want to be resilient. I want this nation to be that way.
I think we're losing our grip on grit.
Powerful.
I'm speechless.
I kind of feel like there is, I look at the kids my kids are competing with and they're
pretty, they're scrappy, if not gritty.
You know, and hang on
but there's a whole group left behind that just aren't even like in the running they're competing
they just don't even get out of they don't get into it yeah that's that's it that part's lost
it's more than I'm afraid well yeah no I know what you're saying. There's a mentality, because I come from this mentality,
this notion that we're going to dig ourselves out
of whatever welfare state people are in by dumping off
more money in their lap.
One day, people are going to look back at this time.
I mean, there will be a time when we understand psychology, sociology, and how the brain functions.
We accept our understanding of it.
Well, sorry, we'll accept.
We understand it now.
We won't accept it.
There will be a time when we accept this. There was a time, as I said years ago,
in the 70s when this was a legitimate decree, which is you take a young boy and a young girl,
you put a cap gun, a pop gun down, you put a dolly down, and you step back. That little
boy is going to go for the dolly and that little girl's probably gonna go for the pop-cuddle.
Hey man, how do you... I can't even do it. Because I'll tell you what happened to us. When our kids were first
tripped to the toy store, they were barely toddlers, barely able to walk, we went to a toy store, and we tried to encourage
in different directions, in non-sexuality-stereotypes directions. My daughter would not leave, would not
leave the tiaras and boas.
And my kids, my sons, would not leave the trains
and the hammers.
Right.
Could not pull them over to the fuzzier stuff.
And same with my daughter.
I could not bring her over to the hook.
Yeah.
I can't get my boy, I have a boy and a girl.
They're twins.
I can't get her to stop with the dress up and stop with the mascara and stop with the
dolly.
Hey man, she was exposed to your guys.
Try to change a kid's behavior.
It's impossible.
If they have a proclivity, it's really hard to change it.
Exposed to, like dad's obsession with choo-choo trains.
And earth movers.
And earth movers.
Like all Sonny ever saw was dad walking through the house in his underpants in a hurry
There was no discussion of choo-choo trains or backhoes, you know, and certainly
You know mild obsession with Legos
But not a big, you know, I built some forts out of Legos
But this notion of this constant notion that we're
force feeding.
Not even force feeding, but somehow by being exposed the moment their eyes open, the sexual
identity is in them now because they are exposed in the environment.
Why is that the only thing in the environment that does that?
You can't do that with anything else.
Not even eating.
You can't even teach somebody to eat that way.
Well, that's the whole thing. I mean there's all this stuff where it's like we have to teach them how to be tolerant
We have to teach them how not to bully. We have to teach. Okay. Okay. We have to teach but we have to teach
So why aren't we teaching? How come when we just step back sunny dives for the train and Natalia dives for the tiara
It's alliteration man.
Nice.
Thank you.
So this was a boneheaded...
Wait, wait, what was?
This notion.
Oh yeah.
I never bought into it because I've always said I'll do you one better on the teaching
the boys to play with the trains and the pop guns and teaching the girls to dress
Up and that how that start
Who decided on that the man Queen Elizabeth?
That my point is is how do we get where we are?
You know people do that all the time or they go
How come the guys build the bridges and the women do the teaching or whatever it is and I go
People are how do we get where we are for sake of polemic?
Let me say they would argue that a group grab power early
Like maybe back in the how they grab power, you know
I I mean I look guys are attracted to building bridges more so than women
Fine women are attracted to I don't know what more so than men.
I'm willing to accept that.
On average.
Of course.
So this notion that they were trying to pass this around as some sort of scientific fact
in 1972 or 1969 or 1974, we look back on this as total insanity.
They never apologize.
The people who were pushing this agenda never go, gee, I guess I was wrong.
By the way, they're on to their next semi-retarded notion that will hold no water, scientifically,
from a sociological standpoint or any other, by any measurement it's a zero.
There's no way. But they're on to the next one. That's the way they roll. They never look back.
They don't have a rear view mirror that says I was wrong.
Now we've entered this thing where we've decided that the best way to pull people out of poverty is to cut them a check
We're gonna look back on this and go
No, no wonder that wasn't a highly effective way of approaching life and solving this problem
Because I come from this I
Come from sit around and wait for a check and what what happens is you you get sit around wait for a check you get pulled into an invisible system
I mean, it's it's it's it's an invisible
Gillnet that gets tossed over your entire family just you don't understand that there's anything outside of this success
college
vacations
Paychecks that's where other people dig so in the economic system of capitalism, it's the invisible hand
Mm-hmm, so maybe in the system of welfare. It's the invisible band
Yes, it bands bands and binds. Yeah, it's a lap band of poverty, dude
Powerful man
so I'm just saying I want my kid to have a little grit and
I want this nation to get a little grit and that's not a popular
Thing to say right now. We're getting there sounds too masculine to be accepted. I'm just saying when I
Learn that you know you hear these things we live in a city where one third of the people
are getting some sort of assistance, a third.
And when it gets to a half, guess what happens then?
They get more.
They get more democracy, man.
They just do what they want.
But where are we going?
Is it worse?
The chart?
How's it working?
What's going on?
I can't figure this out.
It's sad that it's been politicized.
I'm not trying to politicize anything.
I'm trying to help people.
Well, there's a whole philosophy that would say that's the way to go, right?
I mean, you're saying what's happening, what's happening.
Well, that's where they want it to go.
I understand.
I know.
I understand that. But they want to win. I understand. I know I understand that but here's my point
When you are
When you are saying to people
Hey
Get your shit together
You need to feed your own kids. You need to feed them breakfast
You need to feed them breakfast and I'll tell you why you need to feed them breakfast
Not because I don't
have 82 cents a day to give you to feed your kid for you. That's not what this is about.
Everyone's going to point their finger at me and say, I have enough money and I'm cruel
and I don't like kids and I don't like your kids. Oh no, quite the contrary. First things
first. This is your idea of helping. I want your kid to understand that mama and possibly daddy are taking care of them.
I don't want them pushed into the system at such an early formidable age.
Do you know what I'm saying?
I want them to know that mama.
Now here's the message I want and this is fine.
Times are tough.
Mama's working two jobs.
Mama don't have a lot of money, but mama is staying up late or getting up early and
she bought herself a big old sack of oatmeal and she's going to make sure that this kid
gets something in
his belly before he leaves the house and the notion that people can't afford
oatmeal I think you can buy a pillowcase of oatmeal for two dollars and if you
ever do oatmeal up it's you need a flame Guys sitting that you're writing this down water. I believe you need an open flame. You need a hose
Any water source will work literally you can get it from the toilet stream toilet, okay?
You you get water and Gary's writing it down
He's writing it down then if you take oatmeal and you put it in a cup we need a cup then well
You could do it in your hand
But the point is is a full cup oatmeal once you cook that up is like too much for one serving
It's like half a cup of oatmeal find me how much a generic. I
Don't want the highfalutin
And I still can't figure it out steel cut sounds exciting
Semi homoerotic, I like to steel cut, but I don't know what that means.
I want to know what a cylinder, like Costco,
I want to know, you go to a cheap,
you go to a cheap, yeah, you go to Costco or something
and get a thing out, man.
Now, not the individual sacks,
not the pre-sweetened anything,
but you can get yourself a nice big old,
big old sack of that.
You can get yourself a nice big old generic box of brown sugar or jar honey.
Sugar man, that's bad for you.
White sugar especially.
Don't you know that?
Well, that's why I said brown, dude.
Fair enough.
Brown man, man.
They settled the sugar land first and then we kicked them off and slaved their people.
And they took the brown, the nutrients on the top and scooped it off because it would
addict you more with that white.
That is so, it's so funny where growing up, my mom was completely cool with brown sugar,
like liked brown sugar.
Good for you.
Brown sugar, great.
White sugar, oh no no no no no no.
People forget that that's another 70s fucked up thing.
White sugar was vilified brown sugar
That's you know, what else is vilified white bread. Yeah, right bread versus brown bread
Like she would she would tell me you know, look I could eat all the brown sugar and pumpernickel
I wanted no or wheat wheat whole wheat. Yeah, but I'm just saying even pumpernickel
pumpernickel
Woody Allen think Woody. Wait pumpernickel was just I mean at least whole grain is whole grain right?
Pumpernickel was just a darker version of white bread, but it was dark. It was literally
This is the word white. Yeah sugar. Yeah white bread
Yeah, I just saw Billy Jack and roots you did
Oh, I had just that that yeah and I know that anything
white yes I'm surprised my mom didn't yell at clouds you big billowy white
balls of matter above my head blocking out the precious Sun not letting the
Sun come in so here's the thing Drew. Yeah, I want grit and
Here's what I don't want. I don't want to pay for your kids lunch
Yeah, not because I can't afford the kids lunch or breakfast. I can afford it I want you to be able to afford it. I know you can afford it. Here's how I know you can afford it
you can afford it. Here's how I know you can afford it. It's 89 cents a day when when done correctly. And when I say 89 I'm talking about 50 fucking cents a day.
And if you don't think whatever I'm doing is nutritious enough, listen to me.
Buy a fucking big sack, go generic everything, buy a big sack of crushed almonds or walnuts or whatever.
Get a big thing of honey. Get the oatmeal. Mix it in. Go get a sack of generic frozen strawberries or something.
Or any kind of berries. Staw them out. Dump it in. Mix it up. You're still under a buck.
You have more nutrition than whatever shit they were serving up at the school LA
Unified especially and the best part is your kid is a deal. Yeah. Yeah. Being taken care
of and not cast off. By the way isn't the big thing. Eat with your kids have a meal
with your kids sit down with your kids. Oh what happened to that. We had to talk to your
kids. Only dinner only dinner. Only dinner.
Only dinner.
Okay.
Yes, Chris Maxpelt.
This isn't store-bought.
On Amazon, you can get 10 pounds of Quaker, it's the real stuff, over 100 servings for
18 bucks.
100 servings.
That's over 100 servings.
Right.
And 100 servings is probably twice what you need.
18 bucks.
So less than a quarter, less than a quarter a serving.
As a 23 cents we've figured out
20 23.2 cents a serving yeah all right so we're under a quarter serving water
that's free now we have another we got some pan and we got another 50 75 cents
we're still under a buck that we can spend on a squirt of honey the brown
sugar man handful of nuts, some frozen
berries, we have a nice hot nutritious meal, sit down, you make it for your kid, but here's
the thing, you make it for your kid and then your kid sees you and then later on at some
point the kid may say, as I had this great conversation with my nanny who has a
child and is a single woman and is from Guatemala and has everything going
against her financially and she had for you that's a big party yeah strike one
she had all the other nannies tell her hey man get that get free lunch for that
kid and she said it's my kid.
I want to feed my kid.
She's a hard working woman.
She's got grit.
She's got grit.
And you know what?
Guess what?
Her kid started taking like classes to get her license to cut hair in high school.
Skill. And walked right out of high school.
By the time she was a senior,
was already working in a salon
and getting credits and stuff like that.
And by the time she graduated high school,
immediately went to work for a salon,
been making a good paycheck,
and has never missed a day of work in the last five years.
That's the message that was sent to her rather than
go eat some gelatinous greasy fucking shit, some Korean War surplus bullshit that the
government is going to hand you. And then by the way, once you start, it's like, once
you start sucking off that government tit early and often now you're in baby
They get stuck drank you've drank their sour fucking milk and you're in and now you're on it
And you're you know symbolically you want to talk about messages
You want to talk about what we're doing with the kids in terms of what message are you sending your kid when you smoke in?
front of them or
When you raise your voice in front of them?
What message are you sending them when you indoctrinate
them into this thing?
Now this notion of, oh, I don't like kids,
first off, this is fucking insulting.
The people who do this, the arguments they make
against the people who want to do away with this
kind of stuff of, well, you just hate kids.
If I just hated kids, I'd randomly run over a kid now and then on the way home.
Imagine how you treat yours.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just don't like kids.
No, I like kids.
It's like saying to a PE coach who's yelling at the kids, come on, one more laugh.
Oh, you must hate kids.
You must hate kids.
No, do a pushup. Oh, oh, oh, you hate kids. You must hate kids. No do a push-up. Oh
Same argument back in the days when there was sort of nuclear proliferation and and there was a mutually assured destruction people You want nuclear war you want nuclear war? No, we want peace, right?
We think that's the way to it turned out. They were right. Yeah turned out there a counterintuitive. I get that
Maybe a tough pill to swallow, but it's the right way. It's way it works
I get that. Maybe a tough pill to swallow, but it's the right way.
It's the way it works.
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At the way this little experiment
Of poverty and lifting people out of poverty is not eroding their self-esteem
And sense of value to the point where they don't think they're worth anything or can do anything and by the way creating a lot of
hostility and resentment Toward the people that are shaming them by giving them the free breakfast.
It's weird to think that Clinton is the one that last undid this sort of thing.
Yeah.
He's the one that last successfully unraveled.
I don't know.
There's going to have to be a movement and again people laugh at our attempts to do this.
I know it's a political thing but Jesus, can we at least get a couple psychologists, sociologists,
and whatever's together and go, look, here's what works
and here's what doesn't work.
I know intuitively what works and what doesn't work.
I've lived both ends of it, but here we are.
So grit.
Wait, hang on a second.
You probably don't know how insane the shit that
spewed out of the 70s.
Kerry, help me out with this.
I believe the philosopher's name is Rawls, R-A-W-L-S.
He's either conservative or the one I'm about to quote.
They came up with a philosophy that said, well,
the only just society is the one that
puts the care and rights of the most underserved,
the most vulnerable ahead of everybody else.
So in other words, if you have AIDS and you're homeless,
if this is a good society, you're
the one that deserves all the resources.
So where do you stop with that?
Do you put them on a ventilator
and keep them alive forever? And you pour all the research into that one person? And
then where? Well, what's to prevent everyone from looking at that and going, well, hey,
I want some help, so I'll just bottom out and then I'll go to the top of the list? That's
the problem. But you know, Lou wasn't right about everything back
in the day. And he raised a lot of money. I used to see him in those Budweiser commercials
and he had like telethon of soul and he put a lot of money in the hands of people for
sickles. Huh? Different one. Different philosopher. Different philosopher. Do I get it right or
is the other one? I forget the other one's name. Anyway, the one was kind of conservative. Anyway, let me throw something back at you though.
I obviously heard you talked about this and I believe you have a right to speak about
this since you have lived both ends of the spectrum, right? Although people distort.
People are, it's funny, I throw, when I'm on television, I'll take an opinion that's sort of, they have to listen
to understand it and get attacked.
It's crazy.
People are really primitive when it comes to the messaging that they can hear and tolerate
and process.
Well, they don't know who they're talking to because they're talking to people, and
you and I, who are good at processing information
and they're attempting to do some sort of cyclical sort of dog chasing its tail argument
that seems to us like you're talking to a nine-year-old.
Well, it gets primitive, yeah.
It's sort of primitive reaction rather than a thought.
That's sort of the thing, right?
Yeah, and then it might just end with them calling you an asshole.
Well, they start with that.
Or some version of it.
Start with that.
Oh, okay.
Right.
But here's, let me throw something at you though, Dick.
Since we have started working together again, I've noticed you have a lot more, obviously
you're more clear on this topic and you talk more about it these days, but it has distilled
a lot more in your talking, and this may put people off a little bit,
down to money, specifically.
I've noticed that.
Well, no, no, no.
You do a lot more talking and thinking about money, money, money, you know, dollar, this,
dollar, is it a symbol of what?
Well, in this case, no.
I, see, it's a good point point and I hear your point.
What I'm saying, these are topics that in the past
didn't have to do with money.
The reason I'm saying how much for a sack of oatmeal
and it's 18 cents or 23 cents a serving,
yes, I'm bringing money up. But the part that'll put people off I don't want to pay for no. No. Yeah, here's the thing
I mean, hold on. I am talking about it in a dollars and cents because I'm trying to explain to people
This doesn't have to do with money. You're making it about money. I'm not I don't want it to be about money
I'm saying you if you do not have 49 cents a day
to feed your child breakfast, you should not be raising a child. That child should be taken away.
It's the most rudimentary fundamental thing in nature, which is if a bird cannot feed its little
chick, that chick's going to die and that chick needs to be raised by another bird family
Like this is number one you talk about education for those other bird family becomes Big Daddy government though
Well, here's what I'm saying. You can talk about
Education and you can talk about higher education you can talk about clothing and after school this or that but feeding
Your child clothing and after school this or that but feeding your child historically I think has
come as number one.
Yeah.
And I mean in the last several million years.
Well you really want to get right down to it that comes right out of body.
Right you feed your child through your breast milk.
I don't what I'm trying to say to people.
It's kind of interesting they're going to take that away too and take care of that for
you.
What I'm trying to say to people is it's not about me not wanting to give you a dollar
a day to feed your kid.
It is.
There's a little bit of that.
No, no.
Well, first off, I don't care about the money that I pay in.
I care the fact that the money I pay in is squandered.
That's what I think.
It's going toward these...
A bad system.
A system that's creating a more... that's creating more folks dependent on this system.
It's growing a system instead of shrinking a system.
And it's not the dependency that bothers you.
It's that creating that dependency ill-serve the population.
It claims to be helping.
Yes. Yes, I would if you had a tumor I would like to pay for your radiation but if the tumor
gets larger because of the radiation payment and people say to me you need to pay in more
so we can shrink that tumor and it's growing the tumor I don't feel good about paying.
I don't have any problem about paying and shrinking your tumor I would like you to pay to shrink your tumor, but if you can't I'll pay let's shrink the tumor
I don't feel like the tumor is shrinking so I don't mind
You know people say to me all the time for instance. I remodel houses. I remodel my house
I remodel stuff
I've done a million jobs.
And the first question that everyone has when they come in to the door is, what's the budget?
What's this going to cost you?
What's the set you back?
I go, I worked on this thing for a year and a half.
I had six guys going full time, 50 hours a week.
And they go, how much did it cost?
And you know what my answer is?
I have no idea.
I never have any idea. I never have any idea.
I literally have no idea.
And they go, you have no idea?
And I go, look, I want to get this done.
I want to get done as fast as I can get it done, but as efficiently as I can get it done.
It costs what it costs.
And then it'll cost what it costs, but I will not even worry about the cost.
I'm only going to worry about the efficiency of it.
I'm going to do it as fast. You're managing that. I'm managing it. I'm going to do it as fast. But that's you managing that. You're managing that.
I'm managing it. I'm going to do it as efficiently as I possibly can. I'll be getting the plywood.
You guys keep working. I'm going to the Home Depot and getting the plywood. That'll save
me money and your time and whatever it is.
You knew me when I was redoing my house. I was on the phone with the guy on the way into
work. I was on the phone on the way out. I'd be there every morning. I was, but I still to this day have no idea what it cost.
I didn't care. I want it done as efficiently as possible.
When I see incredible waste, then it bothers me.
You see, if I come up to my house and I see someone has left the hose on and it's just running in my driveway
versus my neighbor's house, it's a marginal difference in my mind over what I'm more upset about. I don't like the waste. Now, yes, I don't like the waste and it's costing me money,
but I'm almost equally as upset at my neighbor who's just running water down the sewer. Not about the money.
The money is what the money is.
That part, it just needs to be spent efficiently.
That's what bothers me.
But as far as money, yes, I agree with you.
As I get older, as you get kids,
and you start thinking about the future
and that kind of stuff, yes.
But I would like it to not be about money.
I feel...
You'd rather be about philosophy.
I would.
In fact, and sort of what works,
practicality, practicality.
Right, but when somebody,
when I have to hear the constant beating of the drum
of when am I gonna start paying my fair share,
now you've made it about money.
You point your finger at me and go, when are you gonna start paying your fair share, now you've made it about money. You point your finger at me and go, when are you going to start paying your fair share?
I'm paying 50%.
I feel like that's my fair share and maybe then some.
Now you're going to hear a long-winded speech about money.
I didn't start it, but if you're going to accuse me of not paying my fair share or if
I'm going to say, I know what's best for your kid you
feed your kid that'll be a bonding and by the way knowing that mama and daddy
are working hard and have pride and got up a half hour early to make sure I was
fed by me that's gonna go a long way in terms of building a character now you're
making it about money you're saying you don't like kids and you're tired of
paying for other people's kids.
No, no, no, no.
It's nominal.
I don't know what the school system, whatever lunch costs.
I don't know what it costs me.
Five bucks a year?
I don't give a fuck about that.
It's the message.
That's what I'm sending.
That's what we need to talk about.
It doesn't get discussed.
It quickly turns into
you're rich
you love your precious money and you hate our kids
it's hard to come back from any gets any gets even more uh...
problematic and that that's the way man you had it you had all the opportunity
you had every fly white privilege yeah your privilege everyone who knows
my brain knows
ask ever knew some we came up the same way
Gavin Newsom
Had the balls to sit where you're sitting and look at me
This lieutenant government, California. Thank you. Sorry and
Explain and who may be running for God knows what in years to come
He had the balls to sit where you're sitting and look at me and explain that he came from a broken home
So he understands firsthand what these people are going through
except for his dad was lead counsel for Getty oil and he was a lawyer the lead lawyer
For the biggest oil company in the world at the time and his
net worth today is two billion dollars. The dad's net worth is two billion
dollars? I looked it up we can look it up but yeah. That is insanity? But he looked
at me with a straight face and he said I come from a broken family I understand
firsthand what this is like. Wow. So I know what it were.
Lead counsel for Getty Oil.
Oil company.
Attorney and oil.
Jesus Christ, dude.
You want to bring that shit up?
Did you know it at the time we were sitting here?
Oh, God, no.
Oh, God.
God, I wish one of my fucking flunkies
would have typed something into a goddamn computer. I would have fucking gone insane
on him. No, I had to go look it up later on.
Because I wanted to know. I knew he didn't fucking come from where I came from.
Or where these kids are coming from. By the way, I had a long talk with
Chris and Ray, and people loved that shit.
You know what they really liked the most,
and they want him back, we're gonna get him back,
is the historical context.
People, as much as we yell about that, they didn't get it.
It was Ray, it was Chris's father's behavior and profile
that broke through a little bit.
The cool guy with the mustache and the firebird
just rambling, man, hebird just rambling, man.
He was just rambling, man.
He just blows out on his kids and Chris becomes just a horrible drug addict and is miserable
and the dad's like, hey, little son, come on.
The dad's like Billy Jack.
Oh, no, no.
You know what his dad, his dad literally, it was funny because his dad looked like Jim
Rockford.
What episode was that?
We got to put the episode. At Doctor doctor.com, it's Chris and Ray.
It's worth your time.
It's worth your time to listen to that history.
His dad looked like Jim Rockford,
my dad looked like Angel.
If you watched the Rockford Files,
you gotta now find Angel from the Rockford Files.
Did you guys say that back then?
Did you guys have that?
I did, I swear to God, it was funny.
It was episode 45. Yeah, it was it was comical
That my dad was angel and his dad was Jim Rockford and his dad
Was a good-looking
Sort of just
You know, I don't know
Semi-charismatic sort of douchebag We would call that a douchebag today.
Well it's funny because when I was growing up, he was the cool...
I know.
That now...
He was living the dream of the 70s, man.
Well no, but also he would...
He would...
See, if to understand
It wasn't all about him like he would
He got into now, you know, Chris is gonna paint a picture that's a little bleaker
Maybe than it was and a lot of people do that myself included
When you're discussing your childhood, you're trying to make a point. What? Well, I don't fabricate anything though, but you
should know this about Chris. Chris's dad had a house, they lived in a
house that had wall-to-wall carpet and air conditioning which was pretty cool
to me. I turned the air on every time I slept over. I just turned the air on. I
couldn't believe cold air was coming out of the wall
Register in the wall were cold air because in my house there was no air
And if there was air it was the thing that was in the window that was buzzing all night, you know
You know wall it was window mount and there was one of them
It was in the den where my stepdad slept, but where we watch TV
But then you'd go to your room and there was nothing.
So I would get up in the middle of the night because I ran hot, you know, and I would turn
the air down and I'd go lay by the, it's just cold air blowing from the wall.
And I would lay on the carpet because I was like, this carpet goes from one wall to the
next wall.
We had carpets that my mom got literally out of people throwing
away and put them down and they would roll up you know on the edges. So his
dad would take us motorcycle riding you know he had a truck he had a few three
four bikes he would take take me and Chris and everyone to the desert we
literally sit in the bed of the truck in between the motorcycles and drive out the freeway. We got Aquadosia Canyon. It was a hundred miles out of town.
We had a truck back in the truck. Oh my God.
With motorcycles.
Dirt bikes. There wasn't a camper or bed liner or any of that. It was a transmission truck.
It had transmission fluid on the bed. He would have three, two, three bikes, you know, tied down, standing up, tied down.
Little Ricky and Mike, the other brothers, would be in the front bench seat, you know,
cab, and Chris and I would just be sitting, it's sometimes freezing because on the way
home, you know, sun's coming down sort of thing, going down, sitting between the two pegs on the bike and the shifter and the brake, just sort of sitting on the ground
on the floor of the truck.
You're like 11, 14.
11, 14, 14, 11, just sitting there, just sitting in the bed of the truck.
Of course, you'd be on the freeway and it'd be cool to stand up once in a while, of course.
That's why I sit on the bike.
You'd be driving on the freeway, seeing a kid in the back course I sit on the bike you know but you're driving
the freeway see the kid in the back of a truck on the bike we would you're on the
freeway we would go to we would go to aquedosie Canyon when I drive out to
there's yeah there's Rockford and an angel. That's my dad looked like. You have to see these pictures. Do you have a raised father anywhere?
Oh, not raised. I mean Chris's dad.
Chris's dad, I mean, yeah.
And by the way, you can find pictures of angels where his hair is even blusher.
More like your dad's.
Yeah, yeah. That was funny. I don't know if we can find a picture of Rick, but Rick took us right now when I drive up to the to the high desert to go out to Willow Springs
Yeah, about three-quarters of the way there. I will pass aqua dose of candy and go man
I've been on the road for an hour. Yeah, like and I'm driving 80 miles an hour in a Jag
I'm driving to the back of a back of a truck here
All right. Should we take a break for we take some phone calls? But here's the thing
Yes, he was a drug abuser Chris's dad. Yeah, he was an alcoholic
Yeah, you swell you see the cool stuff you had you guys doing but he was a horrible father
Living the dream man in the 70s. It was a horrible dad. He would have been the but
He called me ad man. Hey, Adman!
He had a nickname for me.
I'd say you loved him.
I thought it was cool.
To defend him a little bit, he would engage in these...
Now, he'd go out, probably these coke benders, and be gone, all that stuff.
But then he'd come home and he'd get in some thing like remote control boats or something like that
And they'd go out and do it together like there would be some of that
We you know I'd gone riding with the guy a million times. I've never gone with my dad
I understand he was the more the ideal dad in terms of his participation in those father-son activities
But think how much more problematic it was when he abandoned.
That was even more painful than for Chris.
And he really took off because he was so intense,
it was so cool, and he did love him so much,
then he just takes off.
It's fucked up. That's totally fucked up.
And by the way, but the point is,
completely reinforced by the culture of the times.
Hey, man, do what you want, man.
It's your life. You live it as you please.
Your son's grown up. He's 14. He's taking care of himself. He's fine
That was the time. Yeah, absolutely and divorce. Well, yeah, that's me and the old lady aren't getting along so well
So I move along I ramble I would argue. Yes
It was always rambling time back in the 70s especially for a guy like that, but I will say this
We've now gone too far the other direction. The pendulum
has swung too far the other direction, which is the constant coddling, the constant reinforcement,
the constant support.
But it's split. There's a population like that, I'll agree with you, and it's a big
one. And then there's a population, again, not buying the oatmeal in the morning and
just like, they're feral children.
Yeah. All right. Well, it's a cultural thing and you can't judge. We'll take a quick break.
We'll be back. You got a call you like there, Drew?
I like a couple of them, yeah.
All right. We'll be back with a couple calls. Next.
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Yeah, we're back.
We got a question here on line three that I can't pronounce.
Maybe we should spend more time together talking.
Yeah.
Really, we have not much to say to one another.
We should practice this.
All right.
All right.
Let's do it. All right.
I like a two.
By the way, you want to hear me and Drew up on stage talking highlights from our first
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So how can you go wrong with that?
Me and Dr. Drew, I think we're in Bakersfield, we're in Santa Barbara.
Jesus, we're in Bakersfield, I forgot about that.
Denver.
In Denver and all under five bucks. A lot of travel for the price. Let's
talk to Jessica. Jessica, 25.
Hi, thanks for taking my call.
What's going on?
I have a question about hydra and night is.
It's a, it's a, it's an outbreak under your arm. It's a really nasty kind of a...
Yeah, like it's like, like, foils and like you can get them like in different places.
Yeah.
Is there anything like to get rid of that?
Well, there's lots of treatments.
That work?
Well, that works.
It's a tough thing to treat.
And there's everything from surgeries to, I think they use even Accutane and hormone
therapies and all kinds of stuff they try. but it is a tough thing to treat I mean
obviously Jessica you should be managed by a dermatologist. Like I went to one
and they just kind of were like well it's hereditary and you have basically like
don't raise your arm. Oh no no come on they did not say that they must have
offered you first of all you must have a mild version. They must be mild. Well, I get it in the groin area, like on my thighs, like really bad and it's like all
the time.
Did they look at it?
Did they see it?
No.
Okay, you need to go back.
They need to examine.
Did you see a dermatologist?
Yeah.
You want to look at it?
That's shocking to me.
You did not see a good, then you're not getting good care.
You go back, you say, look at this, I want something done. And by the way, that may not be hyrdiditis.
Jessica, you must not look too good in your underpants if the dermatologist is like, keep
the dungarees on, sweetie. I think I have a pretty good idea. You know, with the internet,
they got everything on there now, so I could look that up.
And by the way, that may not be hyrdiditis down there. That may be folliculitis or something
different there, or even fronculosis is different stuff.
And so, you know...
Now what's the hydrodentamines?
It looks like...it's more like tunneling.
It's really bad.
It can look really unpleasant.
You've never seen it, I'm sure.
What's tunneling look like?
Like it's like infection, you know, coming to the surface and, you know, the abscess
tracks and things.
But please...
Is this like... What? you know, coming to the surface and, you know, the abscess tracks and things. But please.
Is this like, I'm sorry, is this the same as getting like a boil like this?
It's not.
It's not, and what you have down there may be boils, and that has a different treatment.
So Jessica, bottom line, go back, get treatment, get proper treatment, that's it.
You know, I was saying the other day, I was kind of almost lamenting the fact that you don't see people with horrible skin anymore.
I mean, yeah, I mean, remember you'd see that?
Do you remember?
Yeah.
Well, it's treatable.
That's the point.
Right.
Remember, remember every so often you'd just be going about your life and you'd come across
somebody, you know, working or something.
You'd like look at him and you'd go, oh, God, it's sweet.
If it was a woman, it was always like a 22-year-old woman
or something, I was like, oh, I feel for you.
Yeah, like, you know what I mean?
Like, you just felt so fucking horrible for him.
Now what?
Now that somebody would grab that and treat it, geez.
Yeah.
No reason for that.
Let's go to two.
That's the interesting thing.
All right.
Steven.
Steven in Detroit.
Lit up.
Yes. There, go ahead. What's going on ahead. How are you Adam? Get it on. Get
it on buddy, what's going on? I had a question. I have epilepsy which I developed when I was
25. That was the first time I ever had a seizure. Weird. And the only time it would happen,
and I probably had five since then, I'm 27 now. I would be having intercourse and I would go to finish and I would have a seizure then.
Wow.
Can you imagine that?
No, but I think it would help in terms of pleasing your lady friend, right?
Like make her feel really impressed with herself?
Well, psychologically, physiologically, both.
Like a vibrator?
Kind of like it. Yep
Not even like it a vibrator so what what would happen your eyes roll backward and shake free cow
Yeah, I would actually pass out and I woke up my I'd bite into my tongue and sure you know it scare my
My girlfriend I would scare the hell out of her. I always fuck with my wallet in my mouth
Nice a stops me from biting on the tongue B I always fuck with my wallet in my mouth. Nice.
A, stops me from biting on the tongue.
B, I know where my money is, you know what I'm saying?
Because I've left it on the night stand.
In case you're out.
In case you're out.
Been burned a couple of times.
And B, just makes the payment, you know, the transaction that much easier.
It's like I just open my mouth, falls on her titties, you know.
Work it out right there, you know.
I wonder if you had that big thing, hospital sticks with a big roll of tape around the
end of it, the end of your bed.
I don't know what that was.
Yeah, no.
This is for the payment.
Steven, so you take seizure meds?
Yes.
Okay.
So does that control it now?
Yeah.
All right.
And I'm sure you have full neurological workup and whatnot?
Yeah.
Okay.
All right. Well, it's one of them things.
I mean, people get seizures triggered by various stuff.
That's an unusual one.
I must tell you, I've never seen nor heard that, but it doesn't seem impossible to me
at all.
Yeah, that's what I want to know is how common was that?
And should I worry about that going to keep happening?
Well, if it keeps happening, you need new meds.
I mean, the seizures should be controlled.
And by the way, at very least, you don't want that happening while
you're driving, for God sakes. And so if you're still having your controlled seizure.
Oh yeah, but then you had to go through that where they had to take my license away and
everything.
I know. Well, listen, I've learned from flying that if you get the right dog.
With you?
If you have the right dog for when you're fucking.
Oh, like an anti-epileptic service sex dog?
The service, all the service dogs I'm aware of are seizure, are many.
Some anxiety, to be fair.
Please, let it be noted, please from the mountaintops, from the mountain goddamn tops, I started
complaining about passion fruit and tea and
tea 15 years ago. Right. Yeah. And I said this fucking passion fruit is a scourge. It's
ruining our tea. All this fucking all this bullshit flavor that people didn't know what
I was talking about when I started complaining about this. They were confused and irritated
with you a little and they never heard of passion fruit
They did not know what this is there is now
Passion fruit bird food. It's fucking
Passion fruit has taken over. No, no, I think it's gone. It's kids it did and it's on its way out fast
Don't you think?
Absolutely not really people tweet me all day about passion fruit yogurt passion fruit shampoo
Passion fruit toothpaste oh you there that it was going there was zero products that contain passion fruit except for this horrible
gay LaT that we were fucking up in Los Angeles and now there are
25,000 products that involve passion fruit and like I said deodorant toothpaste
It's ancillary shit. So I'm in stuff you swallow
Anymore have fucking passion fruit in it people never stop tweening this
I made that let it be known that I made the decree with the dogs on the airplane thing
About nine months ago and how this was going to quickly spin out of control and it hasn't even, at least the passion fruit thing
took, it took a good eight years to get it from tea
to toothpaste, maybe more. It's only in the last few years that it made it from
ruining tea to ruining everything else that we didn't know
like I said nobody wants passion fruit they don even know what the fuck passion fruit is.
They don't know what it tastes like.
All right, but fine.
The dog in the airport thing, this bullshit,
I made the decree nine months ago,
it's gonna take way less than 18 months
for this thing to completely spin out of fucking control.
Now people tweet me the bathrooms
that are put in for the dogs the little little
Terminal have a little miniature little doggy. No. Oh, yeah all the terminal when you have that many dogs
There's a picture. Oh my god. What drew? What are you supposed to do? Where is that?
Where is that? I'm never going to that city. It's at the bathroom. We'll be able to help it drew
It will it's in that city. It's at the bathroom. You won't be able to help it, Drew.
It's in San Diego.
It will be in every.
Oh my god.
No, this is just one airport.
Drew, what are you going to do if 10% of the flying public
is flying with their pets?
You're gonna be cleaning dog shit off the floor
if you don't have a place for the dog to grab.
Right.
Well, what would you do with human beings
if you provided no bathrooms?
Yeah, your point is taken. Okay, it's done. We're over. We're in. It's in. We're
in. It's on. And you can thank Richard Belzer and the rest of the fucking crazed narcissist
who decided to start flying with their seizure alert dogs back in the day. They were they
they were the douchebag pioneers. They're the fucking Lewis and Clark of self absorbed douchebags.
That's who began with this stuff.
And now it's ubiquitous.
And now all people do is tweet me pictures all day long of dogs in restaurants,
dogs in airports, dogs everywhere.
This is me at Costco.
This is me at the doctor's office.
This is me. And there's a dog. There's a dog just walking through every single fucking
place.
On the table.
Absolutely.
People have to go to the website and see these pictures.
Drew, you can't tell them what to do, man.
Oh my God.
It's like at a Starbucks.
What kind of dog is that?
Self-entitled douchebag dog. A mix.
Douchebag, doodle, douchebag.
Mix of self-entitled and douchebag?
Drew, is anyone going to listen to me or are we just going to go off the fucking cliff?
Is anyone going to listen to me?
Do we not see where this is going?
You think the pendulum is swinging back.
That's giving me, I've taken heart in that.
Well, it's only going to, here's when it's going to swing back. That's given me I've taken heart in that. Well, it's only gonna here's what's gonna swing back
When they say to you a man
50% of what you're bringing down. I thought you're fresh. It feels a little light to me and
when people are being
Malled and attacked at the airport by dogs that that's eventually it'll swing back
by dogs that that's eventually it'll swing back when a dog stumbles into a cockpit and takes down a plane like they're gonna have to then it'll swing
back you'll when you pack it up and swing over to Texas is when it'll it'll
eventually swing back when we go to Nevada we're going to bad remember that
we were yeah yeah that's our thing all right I take a break I'll keep going yeah
you know what let's call it.
Let's call the show.
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