The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Honest Conversation About Race (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

Adam and Drew are back together for a show about racism.

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Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. No choice but to get on, man. Get it on. Thank you so much for tuning in and thanks for subscribing via the PayPal button. You know what it is. We do a bunch of shows. They're free. And make little donations so we can keep the lights on around this place. Drew, how are you feeling, buddy? I'm coming out of this thing slowly but surely.

It's been, you know, I'm a pussy. Drew had a procedure. I'm a lightweight. I don't know how much you've spoken about it. I've just said that I had a big surge. I'm a lightweight. I don't know how much you've spoken about it. I've just said that I had a big surge. I've been out. I will, I want to do it in a sort of a systematic way with organizations and stuff, you know what I mean?

Because there's a lot of education that needs to go along with it for people. So with the gender reassignment stuff? Yeah, yeah, you know, tough sitting on those glass inverted. Right, so we get the people behind you. Right. Literally. And then, literally, then we'll talk about it. Right. Once I finish the full transformation. But you're to get the people behind you literally and then we'll talk about it. Right. Once I finish all the full transformation.

But you're coming out of it. Yeah, I'm coming out of it and it's something that a lot of men are going to go through and you've already made the point about this condition that it's one of the more common things and now I'm living it and it's something that you can live with but the procedures are intense associated with it. And I'll talk about it in a future podcast at a future time. All right. Well, we got to have a dialogue about race relations, an honest dialogue. You and I? All I see is whenever I turn on CNN, it's just a lot of super blowhards talking about

having an honest dialogue. It's time. It's time. They never start, they don't have a dialogue. They command us to have an honest dialogue. I noticed you've got my six screens up there on your to talk about list. I don't know why. But does that mean you've been listening to my show or watching my show? No, I don't support your show in any way. But I was walking through the bedroom while Lynette was watching it and I saw the six talking heads up on the stage.

Yeah. It's Brady Bunch for retarded people. It's Brady Bunch. We called the Brady Bunch screen. Oh, okay. Well done. So I should watch. And it's just everyone, black chicks with crazy hair going, excuse me, excuse me, excuse

me, excuse me, excuse me. By the way, by the time you get to your 25th excuse me, probably stop. Let the other person just finish their point. And then people, you know, chiming in and drew pretending like he doesn't have an opinion. And it's awesome. Well, I'll tell you what I've learned from it. Something did cut through to me though in that conversation. We have an African American woman named Shahrazad Ali on there who is, she's polemic.

She's like a lightening. She just says outrageous things. She wears like, she wears the Egyptian crown. She looks like soup can on her head kind of thing. None of this is making sense to me. Okay. None of it. In any event, she... All black chicks I know are named Shelly.

She said... They're wearing their natural hair. Heresod is over there on the way right. See the thing on her head, the crown? Yeah, no, I saw it. I took note. That was one of the things that made me keep walking. It makes most people stop and watch. People wearing like period garb in today's world. That's actually yesterday's show. Ethnic period garb. Like I'm the descendants of okay, my parents are from Naples.

Should I dress like a guy pushes the gondola? You know what I mean? The red socks up to my knees and knickers and a weird ornamental vest. That's how you'd see, you know me because my car would be in neutral and you'd see the pole out the window pushing the car around. Hey man, that's my heritage. I immediately, by the way, when I see the people with the heritage outfit Yeah, I'm immediately out even the cow. I don't even like the cowboy outfit and at least that's this country's heritage But alright, so anyway, so she

She is a lovely woman. I mean no No, she's a really great lady, but she says these outrageous fucking things About white people and all white people and all white people and all black people. But she said something that cut through me. I suddenly realized what she's talking about is that a lot of African Americans carry around trauma in their heart and their emotional system and really don't talk about it that way. It's really like the equivalent of the Jews and the Holocaust. Pete Slauson Is that from not having a dad? Joe Snell But that all is transmitted from slavery. All of that is sort of a downstream

effect of slavery. Pete Slauson All right. Joe Snell And they don't talk about it that way. Pete Slauson They should talk about it. Joe Snell Well, she started talking about it. Pete Slauson Yeah. Oh, Drew, you're gonna knock things over. Joe Snell I know. But she did. And we had an interesting, and I think that's, I want to sort of talk about that with you. In fact, I would get, in fact, Gary we had an interesting, and I think that's, I want to sort of talk about

that with people. In fact, I would get, in fact, Gary, see if you can get Cher's out on the phone for one of my podcasts, and we'll talk about this. Hold on, how's her hat going to work on the phone? She can't operate a phone with that hat. It doesn't cover all of her ear, just part of it. She doesn't have it yoked out on one side for the receiver? Maybe.

Or maybe she has a little, I don't know how she does that. Or she has a special phone hat. Yeah, phone hat. Right. That's nice. Maybe it can receive, too. Love that band. Phone hat. Yeah, they're so cool for the city. Remember that? All right. Yeah. But do you hear me on this? Yes.

And when I- Hold on. What group does not possess trauma in their past? Oh, but- Please? You like to offer... Please offer me up a group. And I will... Let me support your opinion by saying, yes, the people carry trauma from the Napoleonic

Wars and head over to this country from the Russian Revolution, from the Second World War... Well... People run to this country when they're being traumatized somewhere else. And they head on over. Yes, yes they do. So a lot of people carry that. Well listen, you can talk to George Takei and he'll never stop talking your ear off

about the Japanese American he always hits. Not Japanese. Japanese internment camps. Listen, talk to your friend Mark Gergos. Mention genocide once to him and it will go for three weeks. Turkey. The Armenian Genocide. Armenian Genocide. Yeah, they carry that around all the time. But how's Mark doing?

Right. Well, the point is that when I brought the... It was interesting. I brought it up and she went, you're right. I made the same point. Oh, I'm sure you made this exact same point. I said... Drew, I've seen you on that show. You are a blank piece of melba toast that pretends to share the opinion of everybody of any race that's on your show. You'll not say anything even close to your own opinion or outrage because that's your job.

That's good. That's my job. So good. I'm doing my job right. Please pretend like you made a point on your own show. No, I said my hair... Gary, don't laugh at that shit. I'm gonna kick

your ass. True you sit there and agree with any guest on any topic they say as long as they're a different color than you. If they're the same as you then you can disagree with that. Here's what I said. Is that true or not? Well that's been beaten into all of white America hoes. If you're gonna be on that channel you better agree with anything that anyone who's a different nationality than you says You have to sit there. Not your house to african-american women had very different opinions They did you didn't so but I cast them in those spots to have those producers did that no no no I've seen I've seen what you do you sit there and pretend like you agree with all this stuff you really disagree with well

Let me tell you my point man. Can I ask you this? Yeah. Who's more into education than you? Nobody. Nobody. Who said to one of the black guests, how about you focus on education? How about you focus on your kid's education? She brought that up. Have you ever brought that up? I didn't bring that up.

Well, who's the bigger champion? Who loves education more than you? Yeah, you would never do that. I wouldn't do that to anybody because that feels elitist to me. It does. It feels like, well, I'm sitting on high, I had somebody pay for my education. That seems class-ish to me. But anyway, here's the thing. There you go. Yeah, okay, you're right. No, it does. All right, well, people shouldn't be educated.

No, no, they should be. I just, I'm not sure. But I can cast somebody in one of those windows to say that and I could discuss it with them. All right. So here's what I said. I said, wait, listen, my family ran away from the pogroms and the Russian Revolution. What about our trauma? You're white, it doesn't count. You know what she said? It was interesting. She said, you guys had the freedom to choose to leave this. We were captured and we were stripped of all meaning in our life and our culture and everything, and it's different. And I thought, oh, interesting. It is a little different. It is different.

And I thought, wow, and no one's talking about it in the right terms. You know, we can talk about it. Well, because you know why? Because I think people get political, you know, power from it to keeping it sort of underground. Wow, luck. Political capital. Whatever, whatever terms you want to talk about it in, you have to address a problem as if it's a problem. Everybody wants to have an honest talk, an honest, I'm holding my fingers up in quotes and rolling my eyes. You know, it's time we had an honest talk about race relations and all that. Well, first thing we need to do is stop the media and its rush to turn everything

into a problem of race. And they don't even know how to report shit. I mean, you know, in New York, when some poor Jew car jumped the curb and he ran over a black kid, the blacks went on a rampage and they were tearing up the town and they're beating up Jews and they were lynch mobs, but they're going after the Jews. And it's like, you know, racial tensions between the Jews and the Blacks, and not the Jews, that was the Blacks. And they don't talk about it that way. Well, there's an interesting correlate to this. They'll never talk about it that way.

For this story too, but listen to it this way. People are going, this judgment makes it open season on African-American males. People can go kill them and feel that they can do it without having any justice served. As opposed to, but that chick in the second window said, who's in more danger right now, black male or George Zimmerman? Whose life is more in danger? Well, that's interesting. To be fair to Crazy Hat lady,

She didn't chime in. If you live in a crappy neighborhood, you are more in danger as a black male, except for you're gonna get shot by another black male. They don't weave that part into the equation. They did, both the two middle windows and below You are more in danger as a black male, except for you're going to get shot by another black male. They don't weave that part into the equation. They did. Both the two middle windows and below both argued that.

And they said we need to do something about that. Drew is interested by that new revelation. Ooh, hadn't thought of that, except for that's all he thinks, that's all he knows. Yes. Okay. So, everyone's a hypocrite. No one really wants to talk about it. I had an interesting talk about it. I had an interesting

Oh, go ahead. I had an interesting thought about it. Yes. Look, I've said this for as long as anyone would say it and now thank God people are starting to say this. Slow down. Dig. The truth is going to be delivered. Kids, kids, kids and more kids. Don't have kids you can't have. Don't have kids you can't raise. Don't have kids you can't take care of. Don't have kids you can't have. Don't have kids you can't raise. Don't have kids you can't take care of. Don't have kids you can't educate. And watch things magically disappear. Watch all the racism that is plaguing the black community and holding the black community down. Watch it start to evaporate as the family system starts to repair itself, education starts.

So how do we make the traumatized people can't do that? They want to have kids to make themselves feel better. How do you stop it? Well, first thing you do is you stop listening to Jesse Jackson talking about a lynch mob or Al Sharpton saying, you know, it's open season on Black. The first thing you do is you get away from that dialogue that does nothing the third thing you do get Kevin Newsom in here all these fucking yeah Gavin Newsom he's got all the answers he's got plenty answers he likes to work oh no wait a minute Gavin Newsom likes to work small to big I forgot so he wants to work let's say on a tree who that might be dying and needs to be moved

so the road can be built rather than education or poverty or something like that. So he's got to go small to big. That's how he likes to approach government. I was like, well, that's interesting because I like to work big to small. Like something like, you know, what if we just did that in World War II? Forget about those Nazis. We got to focus on our light rail program here in the States. Know what I'm saying? Yeah. Oh, not States, just in Indiana. Right. Then we'll then we'll get to

what's going on overseas. But anyway, what do I know? I'm not a politician. I'm not a college boy. You what the fuck's that? Oh, Kids, kids, kids, and more kids. Always talked about it. People need to discuss that. Obviously, when it comes to being shot in this country, you're much more likely to be shot by a black person if you're a white person and be shot by a black person if you're a black person,

than be shot by a white person if you're a black person then be shot by a white person if you're a black person so statistically all the stuff is screwed up. We brought that up on the show. We did. We or the one white guy? Not me. Of course. You stood there and looked concerned and grumpy. The African-American girl. Yes of course. All right now everyone knows what the problem is no one wants to talk about the problem. The problem is a cottage industry for a lot of people. Right, political capital. But the news, it shouldn't be a cottage industry

for the news. I understand Jesse Jackson and, you know, Al Sharpton is a huckster. Al Sharpton did this Tijuana Brawley thing, never apologized for it, ruined people's careers. I mean, he's a horrible individual, but fine. He's a first off, why do blacks need leaders? Off top your head, Asian leader, Jewish leader. American Indians have leaders. They have elders. That's different. They're older. That's crazy talk. Literally.

He's running the buffet. He is. He's over at the casino. Crazy talk. I love that Simpsons joke. Now look, how many black leaders are there versus, I don't know, Jewish leaders? I mean, there's people, there's Rabbi Shmueli, but he's not Jewish. He's a crazy Jew who, you know, Brown knows as celebrities. Well, Israeli leaders, a bunch of themmooley, but it's not Jewish. She's a crazy Jew who you know brown knows as celebrities Well, Israeli leaders a bunch of those nice to rally that they don't live in this country They rally this okay. Now if you made a fine point, I'm just saying you've made a fine point There's no political ears in this country

All right, not specifically you're right, but in fact they have to cover that the cover I did the idea that you have to be led You don't need to be led, especially by these idiots who profit I do think you need to be led. I disagree with that. All right Well, then let's get some Asian leaders going so we can get those people out of the hole. They've dug themselves Oh, I see what you're saying. So you don't need for the individual to flourish. You don't need to be led Hey, it's Adam Kroll from the Adam Kroll Show. BetOnline is the world's most trusted betting platform and your number one source for online betting from the earliest odds to in-game live betting.

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Right. Mine works fine. You self-start, you're autonomous, you don't listen to anybody else, you march to your own, you get it on on your own term. No, I work. Most people like to follow and like to have a lead, have somebody direct them. Ray needs a leader. Listen, you bring up a retarded guy I went to high school with. Look.

Why are you so angry? What's going on with you? Your leaders are your parents. Yes, ultimately. And our leaders, their political leaders are surrogates for that, I would argue. Your leaders are your parents. And man, you had great leaders. Teach you right from wrong. Thus, thus. I'll tell you what they,

I'll tell you the one thing they taught me, they taught me nothing. That's the one thing? Nothing. The one thing's nothing. No. No, I'll tell you one thing, I'll tell you the only thing they ever stressed.

The only thing they ever stressed to me was you find out what your part is in whatever's gone wrong with whatever you're doing. Drew, can you, is the mic, is it that big a struggle? Listen, you gotta understand how uncomfortable I am. I'm like agitated from the discomfort. So when you're in a hospital and you have a certain pain threshold, they hand you a mic, and you start pulling it off the stand threshold, the hand you have mic. And I start twirling it. And you start pulling it off the stand. I understand you're uncomfortable.

Here's what I'm sitting here doing. Why are you punishing the microphone? I'm sweating. I'm watching you up for lint spritz. I'm starting to get a... Yeah. No. Yeah.

Let me turn the... Can't turn the air on a little bit. Yeah, go ahead. Why do you have to wrestle with the microphone because you're uncomfortable? Why are you so angry wrestle with the microphone because you're uncomfortable? Why are you so angry? I see you pull... Yeah, I'm recovering.

I feel miserable. I'm trying to position myself. Then don't burn so many calories attacking the microphone. Every time I reposition, I have to pull this goddamn thing back towards me. You understand? I don't understand. I know you don't. I don't understand why every single human being who comes into the studio is take zero

contact with the microphone and you violently assault it. That's what I don't understand. I don't know. Now, as a doctor, I would think you would understand that there's a problem. There's a problem. Yeah, I have anxiety disorder and I'm physically uncomfortable and every time I reposition, I pull this damn thing in a different way. All right. But everyone else from even Ray, who you've described as an imbecile who needs a leader,

he can manufacture... He can... My fucking kishkas are pouring out of me. He can manufacture, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he You're sensitive. No, I get no listen I get angry because I know you're hypocrite when it comes to race What I see your TV show I see what I have a job to do there

I'm a job to do what to create the conversation and sort of push it and where you know, you know You have an opinion you don't share it, obviously Now look, that's the way that's the way the media goes. Don't share your real opinion Here's what you do. You go on CNN, you announce to the world that we need to have an honest debate and an honest dialogue. No, no, this is what everyone else does. An honest dialogue about race.

And then you announce, like someone did on CNN. Did I create the fucking dialogue and I let it go? Thank you. Then you announce that there's a lot more racism than, you know, it's time to look in the mirror. Right. As someone's on CNN explaining, you don't think you're racist?

You're probably a racist. You know, there's that. And then they sit down and go, I have to sit down as an African American and explain to my children that when they walk out to the car in the morning, they better run serpentine. That's the trauma. That's the trauma being transmitted. And I don't know what to tell my children that when they walk out to the car in the morning, they better run serpentine. That's the trauma. That's the trauma being transmitted right there.

And I don't know what to tell my children. And it's like, I know what to tell them. Focus on education. Raise your kids. See where the thing goes in a few years. They're still going to carry that shit around with them. Well, then I asked you about other trauma, which you wouldn't acknowledge. What? Other people's trauma? What about Jews? I just addressed that. And we had... But that's different.

We had a dialogue. We had a dialogue on my show where people are advocating having a dialogue. We have a dialogue, right? Drew, Jews had a lot of trauma. Yes. A lot. And I would argue focusing on it has served them poorly. They ended up reenacting. Yeah. Now they... What happened to those Jews? I think I got one mowing my lawn this morning. Yeah,

it's not worked out well. You know, can I... Someone ought to get those guys out to Hollywood. Maybe get them a job as a grip or like a best boy. Can I ask you something? You know Jews, could they hold the boom mic steady? Probably. Let's get some of those guys...

Look at me shifting around man. Get those guys, some of those guys, hey, Gary, when we go by the Home Depot parking lot, let's gather up a few of those Jews outside there and let's see if we can get them, let's bring them to Hollywood, see if we can get them a gig, I don't know, craft service or something. All right. All right. Done and done. Yeah, you're right. Let's get those Jews out of the ditch. Where do you think? Let me ask, because I tried to figure this out with a friend of mine who is way into her heritage. Why the education? What heritage? Jewish heritage. Yeah. I don't like anyone that's into their heritage. But I asked, I asked, she was talking about, you know, this, that's such a Jewish thing. And I went,

really, the Jewish thing is the, I think we're talking about raising another group of crop of kids or something. I was like, I couldn't do it. I could not raise another group of kids without the private school and the homework and all in on the education. I couldn't do it. Where'd that come from? Where did the Jews pick that up? Is that part of just where Jews lived? But then when you think about it, even in Spain when they were cast out and... What? That's traumatizing. They were cast out and they lost all the professionals when they cast them out is the point. They were already sort of into the education, the professionalization. Where did that... That must come way back somewhere. Either way. It's kind of interesting,

isn't it? Well, for you, not for all those guys out in the Home Depot parking lot, waiting to jump to the back of a pickup truck to make eight pups an hour. But if we could figure that out, maybe we could help other populations to adopt a similar sort of thing. Well, we can't help anyone do shit, Drew. You're not black. Because it's complicated. It's complicated.

You can't say shit. The people that could do shit aren't interested in doing shit because they're interested in having a constituency that relies on them. And the media, they're, you know, look, obviously, they are so far gone and so far up the administration's ass. I mean, just take, hey, you know, there's a, there's a, we got a dead kid over here. We got four dead folks over in Benghazi. How much outrage over that? Doesn't seem like a lot of outrage over that. I mean, the news.

You're in a whole lot in that, the news department. They're up the ass of the current administration. Pretty far. Pretty far. And as I said, and as I've always said, the election of the first black president, oh wait a minute, he's half white. I didn't call him half white before, but as long as Zimmerman's going to be half white, we'll just make him half white too. How's that sound? How the same people that call Zimmerman half white don't call the president half black.

Interesting? Or agenda. I said things were going to get worse with race relations because it was time for everyone, including the media, to double down. Meaning, you think we've gotten better because we have a black president going on his second term? Things can't get better. Al Sharpton be out of a job and so would Jesse Jackson. Time to double down the efforts. Grab on anything, Duke lacrosse, whatever. Whatever we can grab onto, let's just grab onto it. Whatever the truth is, we'll get to that when we get to that. But again, that's trauma reenactment. Trauma reenactment.

That's white guys on CNN. But if we talked about it in those terms, we could defuse this thing. Who wants to defuse anything? This is ratings and a job for a lot of people who don't give a shit about the people that are really paying the price. You know, when I think about smart and education... Let me say something. Please.

Let me ask you about the media. Please. I was listening to Reverend Jesse Jackson. He plays pretty fast and loose with the Reverend thing. Likes the ladies. Did he? Did he knock up a co-worker? Recently? Oh, no.

A little while ago. We'll figure this out. Okay. All right. But anyway, Reverend, is his son in the joint yet or is he not in prison yet? Is he out of prison? Going into prison? Anyway, Reverend.

Reverend. Reverend. Interesting that the word boy is a pejorative for black males and that you've solely referred to Trayvon Martin as a boy. Okay, so they're being pejorative. Boy. Oh, Trayvon is a boy, I see. Boy. Boy. Not young man.

Not 17-year-old. Not young adult. Boy. When's the last time you heard a 17-year-old called Boy as many times, who was black, by black leaders? You want to make sure you point him, paint him as a boy. Interesting? They use the term boy and not young man or young adult.

So you're already putting it up a pejorative light is what you're saying. No, you have an agenda. Your agenda is to paint- Well, agendas make him seem like a kid, like a helpless kid. That's the agenda. So you don't call a black man a boy in this country in 2013 unless you have an agenda. Which is somebody shot, a white guy shot a kid. And now you have people throwing trash cans through windows. Nice job. That's all I'm just saying. It's very interesting that the left used the word

boy almost exclusively on him. The right didn't. The right would probably try to go the other direction. They'd say young adult, young man, teen, 17-year-old, but not boy. I just say what I weird hearing Jesse Jackson call a black kid boy. It makes me want to educate people about something important like stamps. Ah, stamps. Just a stamp. Because this little education can improve somebody's life. Here's the moment.

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Even you and me, we got to get in that same headspace a little bit. And if you want to talk complete truth, we have a job to do, which is bring meaningful conversation, whatever that means. Not to rabble around. Within that, somebody may choose to do that, they think that's their job. No, he's talking about his former life was that. Look, the Twana-Brawley thing was a hoax. It was a hoax where people's careers were destroyed. Oh, listen, I think-

And he, to this day, does not apologize for it and does not admit any culpability. Yeah, but if he does that, he may have legal liability. Who knows? You know what I mean? The legal system is so fucked up. The legal system should have won after him in the first place. Maybe. They shouldn't have gone after those kids, maybe.

I don't know. There you go. All right. So, it gets complicated when you really start bringing it up. I know you see it with clarity, but I... See everything with clarity. I know. I know.

Okay. And anger. Well, look, the problem is I cannot stand living in a nation where every time I turn on the TV set, some ass wipe says, don't be naive. This is a horrible racist nation. And this thing where it's like, I love this country, but it's time to change. What do you mean you love this country, but it's time to change? Do you love it or not? How much do you want to change? Hope and change always bothered me. I don't like hope. Do you want your kids to sit around and hope for a good grade?

Do you want to hope for a good job? Do you want to hope for a good relationship in a nice house? The whole, the first thing of hope and change drove me insane, as you know. Hope, number one, unnecessary. Change? I'll tell you news to change. About 175 nations before we get to this one, and I'm rounding down. Okay? So I don't like hope and I don't like change. Now look, here's the plan. I don't like racism either. I don't believe there's nearly, nearly, there's not one tenth of one percent of the racism that CNN would lead you to believe. And then there's a sort of a thing where they go, well, don't be naive. You're racist even if you're not doing anything about it. Like, okay, good. Maybe I have diabetes even

though I don't test for diabetes and I don't have to watch my insulin levels. I don't know what else I fucking have that I don't do or don't participate in. But either way, I can't be killed from base jumping if I never base jump. But I should still be careful? Fine. I'll look out. Next time I get to a mountain, I'll be sure not to jump off it with a parachute. Either way, yes, I am racist, but let's be naive. But okay, let's just

say I am racist. I don't display any of that toward anyone at any time. So thus, bullet dodged if you're any other race. And as I've always said, they always cherry-pick their races. It's called a racist. It's not called I hate black people or I hate Hispanics. It's racist. Racist, you take the Klan, they ain't fans of Jews. They don't like Jews. They don't like, I'm sure there are people here

who are true racists. They don't like anything but white. Listen, you talk about traumatized populations. How about the poor Native Americans? And they have no leaders in government in very high positions. Well, we ruined them because we gave them a bunch of shit and then they just got fat and started drinking.

And we handed a bunch of shit to them and they fell apart. You take a look at reservations that the government runs versus ones that they run. Take a look, I've seen aerial shots of them. You can see where the line goes of how rundown and dead and dilapidated the government run one is and the one where you give them some responsibility. You make them part of it. You go, this is your land. You take care of it. Not us. You take care of it. But look, simple, simple solutions.

I got to pee. Hold on a second. We're gonna wrap this up in a second. People want to hear more calls from us anyway. Okay. All right. Hold on one second. Hold on. What I'm saying is look, there is racism, some racism. Yes. I don't know how much. It's much, much less than CNN would lead you to believe. Shut up. Would you agree it's all human? Shut up. Yes, it's all human. All human. All human. Okay.

Now, there are other mitigating circumstances. I'll tell you, it's a lot worse to be born ugly than it is to be black. And it's a lot worse to be fat. You will be held back. You will not get that receptionist job if you're fat. Super fat, yeah. Or perhaps receptionist job if you're fat. Super fat, yeah. Or perhaps ugly. And if you're attractive. And yes, if you're beautiful and you're blonde

and you have blue eyes, you're going to get things that short, dumpy, Jewish guys with the big schnoz aren't going to get. Doors will open. Life will be easier for a certain point. But that guy works super hard, gets educated, he's gonna carve himself out a life, and then he'll marry that blonde. That's how it works. So, here's the deal. Is there racism? Yes.

Is it abundant? No. Does it still exist? Yes. Can we do anything about it by posties on CNN screaming we need to have an honest dialogue? No, we cannot. It will exist.

So now that we know that, let's focus on getting better. Let's focus on helping black folk. Let's focus on helping black folk not get shot by Zimmerman and or other young black folk. Let's focus on that. We can do that. That's a worthy thing. It's a very worthy thing.

It'd be nice. Yeah. The key to solving that problem is education. And the key to education is small, intact families, mother, father, that's the key. All right, you wanna take a quick break, take a whiz? Yes. All right, we'll be right back with your calls after this.

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Download Pluto TV on all your favorite devices and start streaming now. Yeah, thanks for rejoining us. We're having an honest debate about race because the guy from CNN explained to me that I should. Why CNN? Why not MSNBC? Why don't you crap on them a little bit? Oh, okay. Okay.

I never know. The point is this. I've said okay. Okay. I never know. The point is this. I've said it. I've always said it. It will transcend all socioeconomic lines and color lines and gender lines and all the lines out there. Get the family.

Keep the family. Focus on the education, and... It takes a village, Adam. It takes a village. It will immediately turn into a utopia. That's how we create a society. Some groups have come over here and done a fine job of that. Other groups have either come over or were brought over and have not done as good a job and it's up to us to take those groups and to explain to them the

pathway to success not fan the flames of anger which don't lead to that pathway. I happen to care about what happens to black people for two reasons. One is because they're people and I'd like to see them successful and paying taxes and helping along. And the other is more self-serving. I'm tired of watching all these stories on the news and I... it serves the community that is the law-abiding, tax-paying, whatever community. One hopes that everyone else joins us in the law-abiding taxpayer community pool and that pool is overwhelming so that we have as many resources and everything as possible. Seeing the prisons filled with young black men is very disturbing, not only emotionally and spiritually, it's disturbing financially. I would like them to join the community.

But Adam, when I hear you talking about this stuff, and this is week after week, and we're never going to get to call this week, but today anyway. I really can't help but keep thinking you're talking about class every time. You're talking about these are really class issues and however you want to define the term class. That's what Rich Whitey thinks. That's what guilty white people think. So what is it? If it's my class, what is that? Look, first off, your notion drives me insane. Mine. Me personally. Okay. Well, you don't know any differently because you come from that.

I've said it once, say it again, this is going to be the last time I'm going to say it. In the next five minutes. It's going to say it in the next five minutes. North Hollywood High. Who would I go to North Hollywood High with? White kids, Hispanic kids, black kids, Jewish kids, Asian kids, Eastern Indian kids, all those kids. Some went to Berkeley and some went with me to a job site and picked up garbage.

Carpet cleaning. Carpet cleaning. Carpet cleaning. But we all were there. Who? Now. So the people with money up on the hill went to Berkeley. People with money up on the hill. That's a class thing.

Shut up. I'm listening. People with money, not lots of money, just more than we had. In the middle, upper middle. Went to Berkeley because their family stayed intact stayed together focused on education their parents and their parents before them that's why they had money you see a generation or two ago they did not have any money they came to this country with nothing but they

focused on this and now they could provide but There were plenty of other kids that I knew Asian and Eastern Indian a couple of white dudes who? did come from families that socioeconomically did not have money and It did have a dad or divorce or what-have, but they had, they still focused on that education. They still, and guess what? They went to college. They found a way. I've had friends whose parents have no money and they've had no money and through grants and loans and scholarships and things like that have found their way

to UCLA and Berkeley and places like that. Dave, so A, they have to know that that's the way out and believe it, okay? And B, and this is kind of interesting, I never thought of this before, the parent generation has to be willing to sacrifice on behalf of the children. That is correct. They have to really sacrifice and understand it's not going to be for them, it's going to be for the next generations. That is correct.

And how do you get people to do that? That's hard. Well, would you like me to help you start? Stop saying you live in a racist society that won't let you get ahead and you get shot just for walking down the street. That would be a beginning, Drew. That'll be a beginning toward that. Perhaps. Perhaps. Let's have a meeting about it. Let's have a meeting about it. toward that perhaps perhaps perhaps perhaps yeah that's right let's just you know what that one's a coin toss you perhaps do you hear yourself no I don't

know here that's the route they also get in the way of it I don't know perhaps well I'll trust the clarity of your thought. You're very good at predicting. I don't predict things. I'm just truthful. You don't have the guts to be truthful. That's all. I have too much muddling my head. That's not true. You have jobs and producers and you're scared. You don't want to get ugly tweets. I don't like that. I must admit. That's true. Okay. You're scared. Look, please. Let's go to a meeting.

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a couple more minutes here. I think we'll save some phone calls for Saturday show. Drew. All right, got a couple more minutes here. I think we'll save some phone calls for Saturday show. Okay. Or is that Sunday? Sunday show. I'm a big fan. You know people complain we're not taking enough calls. I get that. That's some of our nasty tweets. Well, it's that I'm blowing hard with this horrible right-wing politics. Should we take more calls? I'm an answer for those people. I built this studio, you fucks. I own this microphone. I say whatever the fuck I want. No, I'd like to go out on clarity.

Meaning? Meaning, meaning I would love to help the black and or any community that's suffering. I would love to help them. Just like I would love, you would love as a doctor, a person that was grotesquely overweight. Unfortunately, the answers to that. To that, no. No?

Okay. They're not complex. The carbohydrates are complex. Oh wow, dig. What I'm saying is, is you can blame McDonald's. Right. And you can blame Wendy's and you can blame 7-Eleven and all the places that dispense the Slurpees and the Slushies and everything.

And my answer to that is yes, they are copable. Yes. Unfortunately, they're going to be there and we can't do anything about that. It's sort of like the war on drugs, interestingly. Yes, they're there. It's there and you can't really stop. Now, what you're going to have to do, now, if you turn on the TV, you're going to have Al Sharpton talking to you about McDonald's a lot. And, and have a point, but it's not gonna help you. Because the problem

is you're gonna have to focus on your own personal health here. And that's my message for the black community. Is there racism? Yes. But in all humans, everywhere. Let's just say it's exclusively white people. Okay. And it's exclusively against black people. All right. Not Jews. Just for the sake of argument. Not Asians. Not. Native Americans. Middle Eastern, guys who took down the Twin Towers. Not against them. It's not against anyone but black people. There you go. It exists and it's only against. Let's just say that's it.

For the sake of argument. Okay. Now what are we going to do? Well, we're going to have to work twice as hard to overcome this handicap. And that's the only choice we have. With education and intact families. And all the other things that support that. Gavin Newsom not knowing what the problem is

and calling it complex is not gonna save any more black kids from getting shot in Chicago. That's what I'm saying. Now, you may call me a racist for saying that. I'm saying it because I'd love to help. And I would love, I live in this community as well. I would love everyone around me to flourish. Okay. Okay All right one more quickie before we hit the road. Ah audible, baby

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Got ahead of myself. Yeah, coming up this weekend, a couple of shows at Caroline's in New York City. And me, I'm doing some mangrove tastings. We got Tomorrow, we got Saturday, we got Sunday, and we got New Jersey, we got Times Square, and what is that called? The Wine Library? It's crazy. And also...

Lily's Times Square. That's going to be insane. Times Square. And Joe's Canal. That's both those in New Jersey. But you can go to AdamKerl.com and you can find out all the info on the Mangria tastings. And Adam and Drew will be back on the road in New England in about six weeks. Oh yeah. I'm out. Say hi. I'm fully recovered. All right. So until next time, this is Adam Kerl for Dr dr. Drew Chris Max Pata and Gary Half-Tard saying Mahalo This is Corolla digital

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