The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - If We Were Japanese We All Would’ve Killed Ourselves Years Ago - A Classic Adam & Dr. Drew Throwback Episode #841 (2018)

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

Adam and Dr. Drew open the show discussing the fallout from last week’s controversy surrounding Rosanne Barr and her ABC show getting cancelled. This leads to a wider conversation on self sabotage and what people do to themselves that inevitably leads to them losing their job. The guys then turn to the phones and speak to a caller who has suffered severe head trauma and is worried about the long term ramifications. Control Body Odor ANYWHEREAdamanddrew at shopmando.com! #mandopodRuffGreens.com use promo code “Adam”

All right, it's time for another throwback episode. Me and Adam back in 2018. We're calling this one, if we were Japanese, we would have all killed ourselves years ago. We were talking about fallout from the controversy surrounding the Roseanne Bar and ABC show getting canceled. That is interesting in how it's played out. Think about Roseanne now, think about back when she was canceled. She certainly has been very vocal about this. And we talked to a caller who suffered some head trauma and talked about that. Check it out, it's a great throwback episode.

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Dude, as though the king walked, I literally was sitting here for about 10 minutes waiting dutifully, making notes, and I thought, oh, I gotta order this thing. And you blow in right as I'm starting to do it, like, fuck, I'm gonna have to finish this thing. He's gonna give me shit about it. And here we are.

Here we are, Dr. Drew. I knew it was gonna happen. How are you feeling? A little bit of a good seek I'm like, fuck, I'm gonna have to finish this thing. He's gonna give me shit about it. And here we are. Here we are, Dr. Drew. I knew it was gonna happen. How are you feeling? Little cum-seecum-sum? No, I'm a little more than cum-seecum-sum. I've been in sort of bad moods lately, haven't I? Or sort of- No, you're out of sorts.

Out of sorts, or out of sorts. Out of sorts. I'm better, I'm better, I think. I don't know, my mood's better, yeah. I gotta tell you guys a little snack in the department that really satiates and carries you over to the next whatever. Just sharing this, because I like you guys.

I took an avocado, chopped it up. I took a hard-boiled egg, chopped it up. Yeah. I took a hard-boiled egg, chopped it up. I took some, like, cheese, like, what is it? I gotta think of the name, but Lynette always uses it. It's Italian blue cheese. I don't know if they call it feta or what it is. Gorgonzola. Gorgonzola.

Yeah. What's the difference between Gorgonzola and blue cheese? They taste similar. Well, the Gorgonzola, nice, comes in crumbs. I sprinkled it over the whole thing and I dumped a little olive oil over the top of that. Boy, I don't think I'll ever be hungry again. And it was all the good stuff.

And I just packed it into a Tupperware thing and took it with me to work today. So good stuff there. You, Drew, got stuff to talk about with you. Oh, tell me. There's a question up there about, things that include head trauma and blah, blah, blah, blah. I want to know, well, you got Roseanne stuff from last week. Yeah, I was wondering what you were thinking about that.

I'll tell you what I think about it. I usually play things pretty close to the vest when it comes to my opinions on events. Yeah. Yes, your reserved opinion. Well, she's obviously she's has mental issues, right? Number one. Number two, I don't think she wanted to go back and do what it takes. It's a young person's sport, this multicam sitcom. That's interesting.

So you think it was sort of an intentional sabotage. So I've heard that theory. I think everything is, well, I guess all sabotage is intentional. Well, but it's motivated by some part of you that you're not in control of. No, I, I, you know what I mean? You're not conscious of.

Look, anyone who's seen the movie, Pepe on, if I cited that movie before, anyone who's seen it with your dad, seen the only film you ever saw with your dad that I can recall. Well, if you've ever, if you've ever seen you've ever seen the other remaking pepion oh so dad I got dust my dad off dad I know it's been 46 years but we're going back to the cinema no no yes yes if you watch pepion yes you'll see that Steve McQueen is getting off the prisoner ship on like Hell's Island and Devil's Island, walking down the gangplank, he throws himself down to hurt himself so he can get in the infirmary.

That's sabotage, I guess, but that's sabotage he knows about. Right. And it's also sort of strategic sabotage. But it's sabotage. Yeah. Then there's a sabotage that you do to get out of something that you might not be aware of Yeah, but you still want out You know, yeah, there's always

Or or you don't want in in other words What I'm thinking of is how people who say they want an intimate relationship But as they get closer and closer to somebody they sabotage. Yeah, so to me Roseanne probably has F me money, which is Trump's F you money, and got back into the schedule and probably was a little overwhelming, probably remembered all the things she hated about it

the first time around and won it out. Could be. That's a very viable theory. Well, I'll put it to you this way. Usually when people, whether it's a relationship or going to Devil's Island or a sitcom that's been renewed, when they really, I've dealt with people, we've all dealt with people who really value what they have.

Yeah. Like, if you have a person in here, with people who really value what they have. Yeah. Like, if you have a person in here, like the world's most interesting man, that guy has a pretty sweet gig for that dude. You know, when you get people that have like sweet gigs. He knew it. They come in and they act accordingly. Yeah, yeah.

You start to ask them like, have you ever been to Forest before? And they're like, mm-hmm, I don't think so. And it's like, oh, you're allowed to talk. Oh. You know, like, really value it. You know what I mean? Like, really protect it.

I know she's, as a disorder. Did you talk to that guy? Did you interview him? Because I did. I've never seen a more pussy-whipped Jewish husband in my entire, well, actually you. But then second to you, I've never seen a more pussy-whipped dude on the planet, which is absolutely insane because of the character he played in the Doseckis commercials.

I didn't get that. I don't remember that from him. I just remember how excited he was to be this Jewish guy from Brooklyn or wherever it was in New York. His wife literally sat next to him and we'd say like, so do you like to drink Dos Equis? And she'd be looking and going, no. Oh my gosh, okay, so come on now. He couldn't answer, yeah. I'm number two, not number one.

He's number one. Come on now. Okay, you're on my Mount Rush mark. Yeah, of course. But you're not. As number two. As. Not the first head. As number two. As. Not the first head.

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And in general, that's them asking for it is the way I look at it. But that's them in the world always in that kind of position. And indeed, they leave you no choice, but that's them in the world. You know what I mean? You get what I'm saying? That's their posture in the world at all times. I agree, but... The ones you're thinking of what

you're thinking about? Well, not when they want to get laid. That's that that's that version of in the world. This is this is what there's a much more accommodating version they get when they want something. You're your dad, your society, you're the boss. That's a different relationship. No, here's what I'm saying. They have a version of I want something versus I'm already here. Wait a minute, I just realized something. I want something version is pretty strong. No, I understand, but I don't think you've been factoring in the relational piece. Really, you represent the boss and this is their relationship with

the boss yes they want to make money want to have a job hey but f you you're the boss and I know what's the boss of me man and that's their position that's their posture that sabotage I'm talking I don't know whether it's Roseanne or many people that have come and gone through this place and in many jobs Whether you're a school teacher, you're a Roseanne, or you work for me. Think about what you have to do as a school teacher to get fired. You know what I mean?

Sex with the students? LA, unify, that's not gonna get you fired. But I... It gets you fired. You don't lose your pension or your salary. You don't lose your pension or your salary. So maybe you should. Then we can just stay home.

Or you go to the teacher purgatory like a blimp hang around here. But the point is this, people work at it, they get it done and they get it, and it's stuff that they do. And so whether it's the peon at the Home Depot who's settling his boss's hash or it's Roseanne, ultimately they're burning calories to get out of there.

Yeah, yeah. And, you know, there is no, especially when it comes to like tweeting, which is, it's not like, well, you got to tweet at 1.45 in the morning. Now, what are you gonna talk about? They've given you these three choices. Like like you may go to bed or watch more TV or have a Jack and Coke or watch Mikhail's Navy, you don't know nothing says you have to tweet. Yeah, nothing nothing

Was on a torrent too. She was just like crazy. Yeah, it was not something's not right Yes, what's interesting is to think about whether she was in an altered state, substance or psychiatrically, is that, does that matter? And most people would say no, I'd say no. Because she had sort of consciousness of what she was doing even though she may have been in an altered state, you know what I mean? Yeah, we care about as much as we care about

school shootings and that was the kid being bullied right picked on like I don't know he shot a bunch of people yeah right I totally agree by the way the dad of the kid that shot up the people in Texas like he was bullied thank you hero thank you sir my god write a book called if we were Japanese where I would have killed myself years ago. Could you imagine your son shoots up at school and is like, oh, you want to know who the real victim is? Yeah.

Remember, we talked, was it you and I talked to a kid or maybe I did on the radio, talked to a kid that was a potential shooter when he was younger and he recovered. And he's talking about what the sort of criteria are. Guess what? Physical abuse at home, abandonment, neglect, and then bullying. It's sort of a recipe, he felt, and he's probably right. Well, one begets the other. Yep.

I think the bullies see it. Yep. They smell it on them. Kern, 40, Illinois. How are you doing? Good, how are you doing? Good, thank you very much. So, when I was 22 years old, I was in a car accident. How you doing? Good. How you doing? Good. Thank you very much.

So, when I was 22 years old, I was in a car accident and my aunt was driving and I suffered a head injury and I also broke my neck and suffered paralysis from that. Oh my God. Complete? Like you're quadriplegic? Incomplete. Incomplete. Okay. I was able to do brace walking and stuff with leg braces.

But I had to have an intrathecal back with a pump put in to be able to do that. Because my spasticity was really bad. And then I had problems with the back with a pump in 2009. And I had three surgeries back to back to put one in. And eventually I had to leave it out because I had an infection. But after seven, well after from 2009 to 2015 I was on oral medications and then I was in another

car accident where I fell asleep driving my van and totaled it. Yeah that was in that was local so I totaled my van and then around the 2017 in August, I had another back from pump put back in because the medications just weren't working. I was having horrible side effects from them. But besides that, I've had a really productive life.

I've just been very sporadic during it and very impulsive. How can we help today? I just don't know what you know about as far as sexual impulsivity because I think I've had, well I know, well maybe I haven't had too many sexual relationships. But I've been very active over the past 20 years. I'd say I'm probably not healthy enough mentally to have a stable relationship. I don't know if I should have a relationship. Have you hurt people with all this acting out? Yeah.

I guess just not being able to have the... I've never been unfaithful, but I've never been able to have the executive function to sit down and think okay I'm gonna do this with my life I basically live day to day. Were you driving a van because you needed the van? Yeah, yeah, yeah, just yeah. It has a lift in the side and it just makes it easier for me and my dog to get around versus getting in and out of a car and using hand controls and taking a manual wheelchair apart. I did that for eight years and that just has wear and tear on your shoulders.

I am marvel at people that can fall asleep while driving. I can't fall asleep on an airplane in first class. I'd like to one day do a study of people who can fall asleep while driving. It's interesting to me. That's something I want to bring up though because they give people like myself a certain amount of medication and no one regulates that and then they continue to let you drive. I had to take matters into my own hands and say, look, I can't keep driving with medication

if I want to drive. I have to put a vaccine from plump back in my stomach. Are you, all right, so are you confined to a wheelchair now? Yeah, I use them for mobility purposes, yes. I don't know if that's the same as confined. He can walk with braces. No, people aren't in a wheelchair. We use wheelchairs, basically.

That's how I look at it. Oh, we don't like that term. So I get in and out of bed, get in the wheelchair. I use it to get in and out of yeah some people are sensitive I don't really care. But you can use you can walk with braces yes? Well hold on it's always a confusion when people when you go. Correct you. Oh yes are you blind I'm seeing impaired. I have to keep going down this fucking trail where I get the words just right so that His Highness will answer correctly. I just want to know, there's one thing between going to an event and knowing you got a long parking lot to deal with and then moving around your apartment where you can get up on your feet with braces or crutches or something versus... He said he did walk with crutches with the back of an infusion. But he also was saying that people don't like saying confine your wheelchair,

because it makes me think you sleep in a wheelchair. You just use the wheelchair. I say, yeah, I'm confined, and we'll go with that. Full time, you are confined. I don't walk anymore at all. No more at all. I don't use the wheelchair. No, I can't.

Who are these partners you're with? I've had, yeah, mostly people who have known girlfriends and then sometimes they become caretaking relationships, you know, and I think that's where it gets to be unhealthy. And what's the longest the one has lasted? On and off for six years, like there was never a verbal. And yet you're saying, at the same time you're saying you shouldn't have a relationship?

I mean, it's never worked out. He's always kind of wondering what his lot is. I get it. But he's been able to have a relationship. Well, I got questions. Let's get out of the relationship department for a second. If you had never been in this accident, what do you think you'd be doing at age 40? Honestly, probably construction.

I'm Irish Catholic from Chicago, so that's pretty much what we do. You'd be doing construction. More than likely. And what do you do now, if anything? Right now, I paint and write. Is there a way to get into that business? I mean, you know, you don't have to be up on your feet doing walking along IBEAMS. There's a way to design and run jobs and do plenty of work in that field that didn't involve physically doing that work. Is there a way to get involved with

that or do you have an attraction to that? No, no, no attraction whatsoever. I've honestly fell in love with comedy. Yeah, I fell in love with comedy. Since I was injured, I've made friends with a with comedy. Yeah, I fell in love with comedy since I was injured. I've made friends with a lot of comedians, including Ralphie May, who passed away a few years ago last year. But anyways, it's been a really hard life. You know, trying to fit in.

I like your march sense of noise when you hear about Ralphie May. I feel bad Ralphie's gone. I do too, I like Ralphie. That guy got in a bad accent once upon a time Joey Diaz is a real a really good friend of mine really nice guy. Well, so what? Alright, hold on a second. I'm not following either then I've been in an accent I don't know what I want to do. Right. Yeah, you're just kind of ruminating about life

But I'm not sure what the specific thing is what your real question is. Um well, so yeah, well no, I was really that was what my question was really to begin with was about you know sexual impulsivity because I've had legitimately 15 relationships in the past 18 years, and probably, I would say, legitimately 70 partners. After having this surgery last year and having a back-to-a-plum put back in my stomach and getting off oral medication again, doctors have prescribed me over 250,000 pills in the past. So who knows what the medicine may be.

One of the things you mentioned is you don't have good executive functioning. So it's hard for you to contain impulses, particularly with the drugs. So, you know, unless you make a really, probably needed a therapist to help you with this, to really make a plan and execute some means of containing yourself.

What's the pump that's in your stomach? Baclofen. What is that? It's a muscle relaxant, essentially. And how often pump that's in your stomach? Baclofen. What is that? It's a muscle relaxant essentially. And how often do you have to refill it? Currently mine's every six, well five months. If the medicine's in there for six months, then I have to take it out anyway.

But no, I've worked with a therapist and I'm currently working on writing a book about everything I've been through. I'm in a good state, you know, spiritually, spiritually, mentally, psychologically. But that's about it. Well then stop doing this.

Stop shooting people. Then knock it off, or whatever. I'm not so much here. She's been with a bunch of partners. She's had a lot of girlfriends. He's not out, I mean it's a lot, and there's a reason for it, because he has no executive function, impulse control.

But so let's get it together. Let's figure out ways, get a plan. Maybe you said you're working with a therapist, get a cognitive behavioral plan in place that you can really fall back on so you don't do this thing you don't wanna do anymore. Mando. Oh, I used this stuff.

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Get it on. What's going on man? A couple things you guys have said have really helped me out over the past year and I was wondering if I could share that with you and say thanks. guys. Get it on man. A couple things you guys have said have really helped me out over the past year. I was wondering if I could share that with you and say thanks. All right. The first is you always talk about back surgery and your thoughts and I had this excruciating pain. I thought mine was different. You know sciatica. I had a herniated disc that was 14 millimeter herniation.

It doesn't matter. Well, as I found that out, I went to clinics and they said, oh, this is terrible. You need surgery. You're going to be like one of those old men walking over, hunched over. I heard your voice is ringing in the back of my head, so I sought another opinion. They just gave me some steroids and it was called, that's some treds and all, and like all the muscles in my body ache. And then all of a sudden that sciatica, after six months of daily constant, thriving pain,

just went away completely. And it's been two months now and I haven't had the pain. It may come back, don't freak out when it comes back. But the surgery is not indicated for pain. It's indicated for motor dysfunction. If you've got severe weakness in that leg or muscle atrophy, something like that, then you operate. Pain, uh-uh. Well, that was one of the things.

The other one was relationships. I got a couple of young kids, and you guys said that the young child years are the toughest on a marriage. We've had pretty much a really tough time. Our kids are 18 months apart. It's been a really tough two years but your words constantly ring in my head when we're really hard on each other.

I say, �Hey, these are tough times And we're supposed to be having tough times. And I tell this to my friends too who are in the same boat. And that just really helps because I've got to grind it out because it's not going to last forever. They're not going to be babies forever. Right. Yeah. And they want you to be together.

It's hard. And get some help if you need it in terms of behavioral management, that kind of thing. People don't know how to do parenting. And get some help with that if you need it. There's a lot of books out there to help out. Glad you're listening, Dominic, and not only listening but acting upon the advice. I'll tell you, Drew, about a story that was funny, speaking of people listening. I was walking down the street a couple days back on Memorial Day and I live

in one of those neighborhoods where they have Memorial Day parades and it was funny. You're the Indy 500? Yeah, I was at the Indy 500. I'm confused. Tell me that again. I was at the Indy 500 for 23 and a half hours. Oh my God. And then I came back right after. I got there the Saturday night, basically. Premiered Uppity, the Willie T. Ribs doc.

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Yeah. Then I got back and I was walking around and having a parade. I heard this band. I heard what I thought was music. It was music. I thought it was recorded music. Then I realized it was a band, and it was like three dudes on a flatbed truck who were like playing rock and roll,

but on a stake bed truck motoring down the highway, and I stopped, I was walking my dog, Phil, and I stopped, and they all just sort of were passing me, and I was just kinda looking at them, kinda going like, yeah, good, sounding good, you know, or put my hand clap over my head or something. And then in the middle of their song, you know, one of them yelled like, Ace Man!

And then in the song, the lead singer was like, get it on! And then they're gonna be yelling, Ace Man! And I realized that all three guys in this band must listen to the podcast. The younger guys or no? They were medium, whatever guys and they were motoring along. Also the congressman, it was funny because the guy who's basically been the tip of the spear for the Trump and Pete or the Trump Russia, I think it's Adam Schiff.

Schiff? Yeah, Adam Schiff. Schiff. Schiff. Schiff. Adam Schiff is also the guy's on all the, he makes all the news rounds. I never can tell. I'm always just assuming these guys are just trying to get camera time.

Like, I don't seem to have anything to say. Yeah. Just, oh, well, you know, it's basically, they're talking points or you go, what is your proof that Trump colluded with Russia? If you think a foreign body taking over our election is no big deal, well, then I guess we're gonna part ways. And you go, no, no, that's not,

I didn't say it was no big deal. I said, I'm asking what the, yeah, they don't, they just go into their talking points. So I think that's what he does. He's probably a douche. No, he's not, I've met him a couple times. Oh, oh no, he's a good guy actually, but I don't know what he's doing. I think he's just grandstanding and trying to get more votes. No, he's not. I've met him a couple of times. Oh, no, he's a good guy, actually. But I don't know what he's doing.

I think he's just grandstanding and trying to get more votes. He's creating political capital where he can. I'd rather do it this way than like by undermining treatment of the homeless and stuff. You know what I mean? Oh, I agree. But here's my thing. Making shit up is not OK with me while you're on the clock.

If this is something you truly believe is going on, then by all means, get your talking points in order and come lay them out. You know what I mean? Like here's what I want out of these guys. Drew, I'll tell you what. Next show I'll give you some thoughts on what I'm talking about with Adam Schiff and we'll see what we can do. But I had a thought and I think this is something you will agree with. We'll get into it next show. We got a little more time to get into it. But I think I finally found the analogy I would like.

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