The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Keeping The Spark Alive (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: February 17, 2025

Adam and Drew go in depth and explore some of the history between Adam and his father Jim. They also take listener phone calls on the traits of alcoholism, how to keep the spark alive after six child...ren and what to do about extreme memory loss.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Corolla Digital. Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew show. Yeah, yeah. Get it on. Got to get it on. No choice but to get it on. Mandate. Get it on. Thank you for listening. Thank you for telling a friend and if you haven't already thank you in advance for getting that Taco Bell material out on paperback Now now I got a problem. I got my mom coming over
Starting point is 00:00:51 Here no Just know where this is even did you know you have this? It's unclear. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, and you know people ask me a lot of questions about my family Like what do they think of your book or do they know you have this warehouse or have what about the studio or what do they think about the studio or what I think about the podcast or what I think about the Toyota Grand Prix or something and I always say I don't know it's unclear I don't know if my mom's been here I don't think she's ever been here but I've only had this for ten years and I am a full 2.6 miles from her house.
Starting point is 00:01:25 So you know you don't want to. How's your dad been these days since he was fired from this bin? I had to fire my dad. People know that story right? Well I think they know it. I don't you know it's kind of an interesting thing and I don't I'd like to kind of get it through your eyes. Me?
Starting point is 00:01:47 Yeah. I mean, I'd like you to weigh in on it. I need to get to know your dad a little better. I'd like to bring him into a podcast with him. You could do that. All right, Chris. My dad is, there used to be a radio station out here in Southern California called the Quiet Storm.
Starting point is 00:02:05 And he's the quiet narcissist. People think of narcissists, they think of Jose Canseco. You know what I mean? Look at me. Look at these guns, baby. Look at this hot blonde I'm with. Look at this Lamborghini I'm driving. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:02:21 Loud. Noise-making. But let me... I get you. And everyone knows that narcissist or Mr. Slate who worked for Jetson's boss, the bombastic CEO or something. Everyone knows that one. Everyone knows who Mr. Slate is, right? I think so.
Starting point is 00:02:37 But let's look at your dad's pedigree for a second. I get that he's sort of, what you're calling narcissist is the lack of awareness of other people's feelings, right? No. I mean, yes. of, what you're calling narcissist is the lack of awareness of other people's feelings, right? No, I mean, yes. Yes, yes and. Yes and. It keeps going though. Okay, but you can keep going in a second.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Let me give you the yes but. The yes but, he values feelings, works in feelings, not good with them, doesn't really fully appreciate them. No, he understands them well. Real narcissists' feelings don't matter. No, he understands the human mind well. Ah, like Dr. Phil, God bless him, understands the human mind, feelings don't matter to him. So that's somebody for whom feelings are inconsequential, they're just incidental.
Starting point is 00:03:24 While the richness of the human experiences is embedded in our body and our feelings. And the whole real treatment is about dealing with that. Real treatment. Right. Does your dad understand that? Can he go there? That's what I need to know about him.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Maybe as an older man, he's gotten to understand that a little bit. I get that when you were a kid, he didn't get it. Well, he, for instance, he didn't get it. Well, he, for instance, I mean, a few stories. They're little things that sound off little buzzards in one's brain, for instance, as I said. Famously when I told Lynette six times that there was a big black, looked like almost a shoe polish
Starting point is 00:04:07 scuff on the side of her brand new Jaguar, I said, why don't you go down and get a little wax and a rag and clean that off? It's a brand new car. It's an $80,000 car. You could easily do it. And she said, yeah, yeah. And then a week went by. I said, why don't you go ahead and clean that off and she said yeah and then six months went by
Starting point is 00:04:29 and I said why don't you clean that off and she said yeah. She didn't say fuck you asshole? Eventually. Not interested in what whoever's buying me this car has to say about the scuff mark per se but then one day I did get the question on a Sunday morning where is that rubbing stuff, rubbing compound you're talking about? You must have been confused. Of course. You thought you meant the facial cream or something. I'm confused and suspicious but I always know what's something's something's up. Yeah. When when when the guy you know when you go out to
Starting point is 00:05:08 to lunch with the guy who never picks up a check and he says, let me grab this one. Yeah. Then you stop and get confused. First, you're confused and then you think, okay, what's he wanting? What's the right and then a minute later, he goes, I'm thinking about opening a Froyo stand, but I need a little seed money and it's like, oh, okay, I understand. Now, I- Come into focus. What just happened got put into focus. So that's how I work. I just walk around just
Starting point is 00:05:30 sort of reading people. And when six months in, on a Sunday morning, Lynette wanted to know where the rubbing compound was. What time? It was Sunday, you know, 11, 10 in the morning on a Sunday morning. Where's that rubbing compound in that, right? How'd you say that word? You ought to have that same thing, the room goes out of focus. What? Huh?
Starting point is 00:05:52 And then comes right back in again. And with clearer focus too, even before the question. Yeah, so I said, why? And she said, I just want to clean up my car. And I said, why now? I mean, I've been asking to do it off and on for a number of months. Did you show your car like that?
Starting point is 00:06:09 Or did you just say, yeah? I said, well I can't remember. I said, well this is peculiar, why now? And she said, there's no reason. Want to get scuff off my car? And I said, it's been there for a number of months and I brought it up five times and then I just got tired of bringing it up so I just sort of looked at it for a number of months and I brought it up five times and then I just
Starting point is 00:06:25 got tired of bringing it up so I just sort of looked at it for a number of months and then I said okay well good for you. It's down in the garage down in the metal cabinet get a little rubbing compound a little wax and it'll come right off. Okay. Then two hours later she said well I'm leaving. I said where are you going? So going to the airport.
Starting point is 00:06:46 What are you doing in Springsteen? Picking up Nils Lofgren, guitar player for Springsteen. I knew that something to do with Springsteen. Well, because I told you this story before. I don't remember hearing it. I was like, oh. Well, of course. So I said, oh, OK.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Well, now I know. Yeah. All right. I can also know where you rank relative to Springsteen. Well, I don't take anything personally. I just get to walk out knowing I'm sane. It's better to be right and miserable. Not miserable, just reality on reality's terms.
Starting point is 00:07:17 The scuff is coming out for Springsteen. Did you have any conversation with her at that point? Oh, yeah. I said, well, obviously that's why the scuff's coming out. And then she said it has nothing to do with that. Oh, seriously? Well, people try everything on me, Drew. Right that moment I'd like to go, Lynette, hang on a second. Why? Why go there? You know what? But I forget try. Where do you think this is gonna go? Why why I? Will I will put it to you this way drew yeah and Lynette and anyone else is listening dick
Starting point is 00:07:51 I'm not accusing you of lying in your mind. There may be no connection No bridge between the two events there may be in your mind Maybe a subconscious. Yeah, we're just like when you and your fecac that Narcissism tests you would always say I didn't see the guy picking up the pencil and filling the thing out Right you could see it But you had an agenda and it over and overtook whatever you're thinking so you could look me in the eye and go I had No idea what was going on three feet to my right, right? And you're not lying, right? But you want something I wasn't paying attention the motivation to pay attention where I should wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Right, for a reason. I mean, so- For a reason that other priorities took over. You wanted- Yeah, I wanted that thing completed. You wanted it completed and so it was- I didn't want to piss you off. No, you wanted it complete. Lynette didn't want to piss me off either. I think you feel a little like people want to piss you off or they don't want to listen to you or something. Well, no. What I want them to do is when I suggest something to them that benefits them I would like them to do it Especially if I underwrite it if I'm paying for whatever it is at common courtesy
Starting point is 00:08:58 Yeah, yeah for an $80,000 car would be to get scuff mark off But bigger picture would be you get to drive a car without a scuff mark. But I understand how people are. I was saying, wouldn't reality in reality's terms dictate that you just drop all that? Because it never works out, seemingly. It's untrue, because now when I say that to Lynette, she says, you're right. Oh, she's come around.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yes. And then doesn't do it. No, she doesn't now. What? No, I'm confused. I had this issue with my wife where I would say, do this, not for me, do it for you. And she used to come back at me all the time with why and I did and da da da da da. That doesn't happen anymore?
Starting point is 00:09:42 No. That's amazing. Yeah. She says, you know, I'll go, what will happen is I'll go, I went to walk Molly and the hook I put on the inside of the closet door for Molly's leash. Molly's leash wasn't there and then I had to go search the house for it. So please put it on the hook that I provided and now she goes uh I came in through the kitchen with Molly and that's and I go right but I still
Starting point is 00:10:15 need it on the hook because I don't know when you've come in through the kitchen and I don't want to search around the house and she goes uh and then she goes, you're right. It'll be done. And she moves on. In the past, it would have done four or five laps around park retard and then, and then an argument. Now it's, I hear you. Fine. It'll be done. And again, not for me. Do you figure that's good for your relationship or bad? It's good. From your perspective, think about from hers. Well, from hers, she gets the leash. The leash is where it is every time she gets the leash on the hook. And that works for I'm wondering what your guys relationship whether she every
Starting point is 00:10:55 time that happens, she swallows something and has a deep resentment that builds. I see people have this thing where it's like, Hey, this person takes a lot of pride in misplacing the leash. No, no, no. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. No, I know that.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I know. I'm using it a little hyperbole. But what I've explained many times is, look, I'm not in a battle of right and wrong, smart and dumb, good and evil. I'm in a battle of a very hectic life with a very hectic schedule, which doesn't allow a lot of time for looking around for dog leashes. So I'm just trying to streamline the process. And this is nothing personal other than this is what I'm trying to do for you, for me,
Starting point is 00:11:38 for the kids, and we can move ahead. And she's understood that. And I think it's good, however, it doesn't feel, we started this conversation talking about your dad and feelings which we got to get back to, it doesn't feel collaborative. Well it's not collaborative in the sense. A marriage needs to feel collaborative for everybody to be good. The fact that she- This is not a marriage though.
Starting point is 00:12:02 This is- I thought we were talking about a marriage. No, what I'm saying is- a marriage though this is no what I'm saying is I know what you're saying I don't know how to type and I put one finger out and I hunt and I pack and I hunt yes and if Lynette said to me she can type without looking down yes you know she said you should start learning the touch system where you put your both hands on there and feel it out and do it that way. And, and, and I said, Oh, okay. And I started working on it. And then I sort of got good doing that technique where I didn't have to look down and hunt and pack. I wouldn't feel resentful toward Lynette. I would feel like she knew
Starting point is 00:12:40 something that I didn't know about this particular topic. I didn't feel like it was a shaming process She knows how to she knows about this. I am NOT doing this correctly She offered I now see I know how your wire drew Full put pee whip mode full plus meaning just because a guy was scary Here's what I'm saying. If a guy corrects a woman, it's a fucking hate crime. If I'm down in the fucking laundry and I'm throwing my red, white, and blue fucking American flag jeans in with my white, tidy whities and Lynette says, oh no, you have to separate the whites with the colors when you do laundry, is that a shaming process? Am I gonna, what I'm saying is we make lots of commercials
Starting point is 00:13:26 where the women are telling the guy, you don't make eggs this way and you don't, you don't. The bumbling dad always. You don't pour the batter. Don't pour the pancake batter into the toaster. But does anyone go, whoa woman, back off. What are you trying to do, ruin your relationship? You don't tell your man now. Yeah, she knows how to do the
Starting point is 00:13:47 laundry or make the pancakes. Yeah, she's going to explain to me heat the pan up this way put a lid over to the top with a not a shaming up and guess who knows now how to do laundry how not to hunt back and frankly your point is clearly understood to me the more you make it metaphorically and with story the clearer it gets still feels funny and that's my but that but that's my question what does your pussy way get my puss stuff forget no I'm so I'm identifying with Lynette imagining how
Starting point is 00:14:18 she feels I don't give a shit I wouldn't feel that way but I'm saying I'm just trying to imagine all right I'm feels weirdly like it could be collaborative if it were presented in a different way. And I wonder what the fuck. Presented in a different way. Well, we started with talking about your dad. All right. Let's take it back to that. Listen.
Starting point is 00:14:34 You need to say you was- No, she, I, look, when she said to me, it's a coincidence that I'm rubbing out the scuff mark on my car on the day I'm going- Well, that's bullshit. Ding. I would have pulled her aside then and go, what the hell? I am not even saying it's bullshit in her mind. I'm saying when I was done laughing, I told her that regardless of what she provided for
Starting point is 00:14:57 me for an answer, I knew what the answer was. I know. And that's how I'm operating. And I'm not saying you are the slightest bit incorrect. I'm just fascinated by the dynamic of it. I'd like to pull her aside and go remember the five times that yeah and if she if she could associate those five reminders with her choice this morning I'd just be interested. And then okay you made that connection. Why then deny to Adam, especially when, forget that you feel like it has nothing to do with it, you know he's right, you just sort of know that, you should
Starting point is 00:15:31 know he's very clear about these things, so why not listen to him now before you make a response? I think that's just a basic knee-jerk defense. It's not like she was being attacked and actually defended herself. Okay, but in there there's something that could be I think done better It's what can be done better is Do not take Everybody do not take
Starting point is 00:15:54 these little suggestions in life as an attack and I won't take the suggestion of take the suggestion of separating the colors with the whites as an attack and you don't take put the dog leash on the hook as an attack. And then we can happily go through life with nice laundry and the dog leash so we know where it is. Here's what interests me. Puss or no puss?
Starting point is 00:16:21 We used to get in all that stuff too with me and my wife. And I feel like we do the same thing that stuff too with me and my wife and I feel like we do the same thing that you're talking about now it's when somebody says something we go oh yes we just go yes we don't fight we don't get into we go I hear you I guess but it feels more collaborative than what you're describing that's why that's why I caught my reason this isn't that collaborative is because I was right it's hard when they say when I know the horrible right there's somebody wrong and that's the problem
Starting point is 00:16:46 Well the problem look the problem is is I was spending way too much time looking around the house for a dog leash So I put a hook up but here's the year I think we're under them inside the door And I announced to everyone inside the house every time you're done with the dog, please hang it on this hook. So there's not a lot of gray area where like I understand her point of putting it in her bathrobe pocket and putting it in the upstairs hamper. There's no point to that. There's no point yet. So here's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:17:18 There's not much quiet. There's not much room for debate in the separation of the colors and the whites for the laundry, either. It's just that's the way it needs to be done. So why does it seem like it's not collaborative? Well, it's not collaborative because there's only one way to do the laundry and it happened to be the way Lynette needed it done. By virtue of the circumstance you're describing is what's different.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Here, dig. When you brought this to her attention, her feeling should have been, rather than your right, should have been, geez, I almost put you out. And I didn't mean to do that. I'm sorry. I want you to feel. I want that on the hook for you and for me.
Starting point is 00:18:00 But really, I want it for you. I want to be taking care of you. That was missing. That was missing. It was just her being compliant. See the difference? Sort of. And where motivation comes from is in those caring things and those feeling things.
Starting point is 00:18:14 And so this is what was missing. Thank you for zeroing it in. I wish she had gone, oh, oh, God, you know, I almost did that to you again as opposed to swallow it with, yep. See the difference? That, that, that. I do. Look, because we only lived our mid 70s.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Right to the coffin. I don't have, and I'm trying to write a third book and write another screenplay. And I travel the country doing stand-up gigs and selling mangrove. I just only have a limited amount of time to not only look for the leash but look into the motivation for why the leash wasn't where it is. I don't know what you're talking about. I know, but what I'm saying is, Drew, I think you dissect things a little too far.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I disagree. If you put this in perspective, if it was your child, and, but it isn't your child, it's your wife, and I wish she had gone, I almost did that to you again. Pluto TV is the place for movie fans like me. And TV fans like me. They've got something for everyone, and it's totally free. You can binge laugh out loud sitcoms like Frasier.
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Starting point is 00:19:56 That I don't know. To me, I can't break it down any further. No, I'm not interested in being a dictator. Right. I'm just interested in having the leash where it is. Having to be a dictator, which is not where you want this to go. I did not plan on spending a fair bit of my adult life
Starting point is 00:20:13 telling everyone how to do something. Off Lynette on your dad. I interrupted you with the- But the answer that you've given me about Lynette and this stuff, which is like you you know, you're hassling her or you're dictating whatever. I didn't say that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Lynette has had an incredible transition. And the transition has not been, I'm gonna kiss your ass so you shut up. She has understood that I'm a person that gets a lot of things done and part of the reason I get a lot of things done simultaneously is because I've worked out an order and that this stuff isn't done to critique or criticize. It's done to streamline and make everyone's life better. And she completely gets it now. And she goes, I understand it. I'll get a second set of keys. I'll put a label on it.
Starting point is 00:21:05 We'll put the leash over here. I'll have everything where it should be. And we'll get on with our life. Thank you. Moving forward. And that benefits everybody. Not you, everybody. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Got it. I got that. There we go. Now, dad. I was just dissecting a piece of it. Your dad, you were just starting. Dad. I interrupted you with yes and.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Dad. When I said it was a narcissist that did have my dad had have some feelings. My dad, as an example, he called me out of the blue a couple of years ago. And, and he said, he said, you're playing the El Portao theater. Doing stand up there. And I said, Portale Theater doing stand-up there and I said yeah and now I did the same thing Lynette said when she said I need to find the buffing compound I said I've done hundreds of shows over the last few years in and out of Los Angeles I've never gotten a phone call from you and he said so you're being at what is that Saturday night and I said yeah that'll be Saturday night. I'll be doing a stand up show in
Starting point is 00:22:09 the El Portale in North Hollywood, your hometown. Did you follow up with you on a com or you're just waiting quietly? I wanted to hear where this was going. Because I knew it wasn't I'm a big fan. And I have some clients in from Asia. And I'd love to show you off in front of them. I just waited to see how this was gonna end because I'd like I said I'd played other shows at the El Portale, I'd played shows at Hollywood
Starting point is 00:22:34 Improv, Irvine Improv, Bray Improv, I played shows all over my dad's Pasadena Icehouse, my dad lives basically Pasadena, I mean he's never asked about show, he's never inquired, he's never wanted to see a I mean, he's never asked about a show. He's never inquired. He's never wanted to see a show. So he's never wanted to see anything as far as I know. So I said, yeah, Saturday night. He said, well, what time? I said, 8 o'clock.
Starting point is 00:22:54 He said, huh, then maybe I'll come on out to the show. And I said, all right. Now I'm super confused. But keep going. And then he said, maybe I'll bring my trumpet there we go and I said that that was his Bruce Springsteen moment that's a tell. That's a tell he said I'll bring my trumpet and I can play the trumpet for you know 20 minutes before the show starts warm up the crowd and I said okay
Starting point is 00:23:18 now I understand why why you're inquiring but at least the good news is I'm not confused anymore. Did you do that? Yeah I said fine go ahead but I'm not confused right no is to focus the motivation of why the call right do you stay if they stay for your thing was he more interesting he did a thing where I said play your trumpet it was an interesting thing I can't remember all the details but it was one of those things where I told him like what to do You know play this and then sort of clear out and he didn't do it and then he ended up playing the trumpet then
Starting point is 00:23:51 Scooting aside like ten feet and sitting on the stage on a folding chair the whole time. I did Yeah With his trumpet not laughing but just holding a trumpet. Oh It was weird But I understood what he wanted to do. Now the point is this. You take my dad and his trumpet. He's never got a following. Nobody would ever pay to hear him play the trumpet. But if there's ever an event where there's going to be a gathering, he volunteers to bring his trumpet as a sort of goodwill offering, but it's really more that he wants to get
Starting point is 00:24:32 in front of a crowd, but he hasn't earned a crowd, so he will take this crowd that's at a barbecue and go, well, I'll just bring my trumpet and people enjoy it. Some people enjoy it, some people don't you know, it's it's it's that's neither here nor there, but there's a certain narcissism to You've amassed 400 people at the El Partal theater I can't amass four people but I want to play my trumpet in front of 400 people So now I'm interested in attending your stand-up show now the question for that is I think that he's quietly much more of a narcissist than a lot of people. So you just sort of can't see other people's perspective so much. He plays the part of a quiet, humble yogi.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Yes. But inside of that is Al Jolson. Gary, you see what I'm saying? Book him for a podcast as soon as possible, maybe Friday. No, yes, Adam said yes. Yeah, go ahead. I'm not with me on it.
Starting point is 00:25:41 No, no, no, no, no, no. You're a doctor. I just wanna know more, dig in a little bit, see what's going on. Yeah, well, he had a horrible childhood and so on and so forth. No, no, no, no, no, no. I just want to know more, dig in a little bit, see what's going on. Well, he had a horrible childhood and so on and so forth. Yeah. Can I give him some shit?
Starting point is 00:25:49 You can ask him whatever you want. No, I mean, like, you know, as if you're responsible for you being hurt as a kid. Oh, yeah, you can say whatever you want. What about kicking the kids out at 15 into a garage? The fuck was that? I'm telling you, a lot of that is hyperbole from Ray and Chris. I don't know how many times I've told you that. No, no,
Starting point is 00:26:11 15 you were in the garage. No, I was in the garage at like 16 and a half or 17 and I wanted to move into the garage because I wanted to get out of that teeny bedroom I had in the house and into the garage. It wasn't like I was living with a lawnmower, though we didn't have a lawnmower. But Chris said that it was the, he described the tin that you guys crapped in, no water, no food. He said you could get a little toaster oven out there, that was it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:38 You guys chose that? Well versus what? It wasn't like the Ritz-Carlton was next to the garage. It was just a less, slightly, you know, less shitty environment with a little bit of food in it. You know? No, my dad, my dad just looked out for number one his whole life. He grew up looking out for number one and he's taken that one to the grave, I would
Starting point is 00:27:03 say. And he has a little bit of an ego, which is his whole thing is, you can call me, I don't need to call you, but that doesn't work on me because, hey pops, I need to borrow money. Hey, I'm playing Atlantic City and the guy who owns the casino want to know if I knew an old man who played the trumpet. So I need a solid.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I need you to punch up this script I'm working on. But since he was fired, how's he been? Well, his health was really bad. Oh, that was since all that. And then he's he's recovered and He's doing okay, but I haven't talked to him in months So, I don't know is the doctor lands. You said mom still with him, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're they're thick as thieves That's the other thing when you talk about him being a severe narcissist. Everyone loves land
Starting point is 00:28:00 Mm-hmm, and a real narcissist wouldn't be with just, you know what I mean? But you have to understand, there's, my dad is a, I believe a pure narcissist, but not an uncomfortable or unlikable or unlivable narcissist. Meaning, if I say to my dad, you know, hey, we're going to lunch, he says, fine. He doesn't say, we gotta go here or there. He doesn't go there and go, hey, I'm on a gluten-free diet. You know, he doesn't, I can go, we're going over here, we're going over there, we're going somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And he just goes, fine, he just gets in the car. You know, he's not a hard to live with narcissist. yeah he's not like he doesn't come home and go how come where's my brisket woman he literally his dinner is cottage cheese with raisins in it James Masterson sometimes called a closet narcissist yeah living with my dad is tantamount to living with an old cat There's no maintenance. There's no upkeep. There's no where's this and where's that and here I'm buying a Corvette I know we can't afford it, but I'm buying a Corvette now his thing is like I'll take a beige Honda CRV with cloth interior or no interior if it's cheaper
Starting point is 00:29:23 I'll sit on a park bench and they're like he's he's you know he requires nothing of you he's super easy super easy super quiet you live in the same house with him not know he lived in that house it's just there's nothing but there's nothing on the good side either and a element of I want to play my trumpet. So it's a weird, again, it's a closet, you wouldn't meet, if you met and spent time with my dad, you would say he's the exact opposite of a narcissist.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Right, which is the closet. Yeah, that's why he constructed that syndrome. It's an inverse narcissist, but still a narcissist. Well, one could argue sort of the ultimate in the certain sense that Jose Kinseko may be an overt narcissist, but he would still be at his kid's little league game standing up and cheering. Right. He still needs other people to make him feel good.
Starting point is 00:30:22 That would be another form of his narcissism when his kid hit a home run and he jumped to his feet and started pumping his fist Yeah, that may be more of his narcissism But at least the kid would look up when he was rounding second base and see his dad standing there My dad ain't he ain't going to the game. I mean unless you can play Unless he unless he can play the trumpet play the trumpet at the start when the f16 flyover yeah all right let's take a quick break we have your calls easy on the food Drew you got any calls you like in there Manson what's Manson's problem so the traits of alcoholism all right we'll talk to
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Starting point is 00:32:15 Hey Adam. Hey Drew. Before we get going here I am never I swear to God I'm never going to a post office again. No. You know why? Well I go there to look at the wanted posters every once in a while. Well I bet you find those online as you are heading on over to stamps.com. Remember those old big postage meters, those damn machines? I had those in my office. I'm getting rid of all that crap. There literally is not a single thing. There's nothing you need to go to the post office for. You can do it all.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I was on the website yesterday at stamps.com. Everything, certified mail, receipt requested, whatever, insurance. You don't need to go to the post. They send you- It's about the people, Drew. The don't need to go to the post. They send you- The people, Drew. The people. You can hang with the people. All right.
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Starting point is 00:33:34 microphone top of the page ADS stamps.com it my wife was an early adopter we've been using this like this is like 10 years maybe 15 years that's all we use here and yeah Matt uses it here and that's it. All right, Drew. So real quick, just to finish my dad. He did the show here for a couple of years, didn't make a penny, cost me a bunch of money. And I just got to the point with everyone where I said, look, we got to figure out a way to at least break even because it's costing me money.
Starting point is 00:34:00 There's no such thing as free. Air conditioning is running, employees are working. you're paying for the bandwidth and all that So we need to figure out a way to make money And he said I I don't want to cancel the show because I have some very dedicated people I've fans who listen there were few, but we're proud how many I? Don't Evidently not that many so but they're few, but they they're proud and they rely on this show and I said good good That's good
Starting point is 00:34:27 If they do rely on the show then you need to convey to them that you know Therapy is expensive and I've said to the same people listen to this show subscribe during the For hit the PayPal button and subscribe therapy is expensive and you get a man's expense You get a show for free and you know I said get all these people to give five bucks a month man I mean if they saw you in a therapist office it'd be a hundred bucks an hour or whatever you know five bucks you have a few proud people then you really need to impress upon them that that's what you need to keep this show afloat that you've been doing it for years for free and that it's costing your son money and we need to
Starting point is 00:35:05 take care of it because I need to I need it's in the red I need to at least get it into the gray you know just even good enough for me but right now it's costing me money and uh he said uh okay and then he went out over the next couple of weeks or months didn't ask for any money and then I said to him hey what's up and he said yeah I didn't really I didn't get that part too good I didn't really understand what you were talking about and I said well it's pretty simple we don't have any advertisers and you need to ask your audience to donate so that we can make money and then I said now you have to do it otherwise We're gonna have to end the show and then he sort of Went out did a few shows didn't really ask for anything and then sort of begrudgingly sort of asked but said I don't beg
Starting point is 00:35:56 For money it's in the audience Yeah And then gave some sort of version that I never heard of why the show was going off the air Gary Probably knows a little better. Gary, come on. Than I do is what his take was. What was his take? Why the show was going off the air.
Starting point is 00:36:10 His son's an asshole. Well, no, that's not what he said. I mean, that's not what went on air. But he basically said that he did his best and people weren't supporting. And it was a money thing. And that was pretty much all he knew. and uh... people weren't supporting and uh... the money thing uh... right now i don't know what's it is best how how much asking for money did he do
Starting point is 00:36:31 i asked every single week you have to ask are you asked on on the i asked the fan uh... yeah he wouldn't do it yeah are real rey help asking to he wouldn't do it he didn't he didn't he said he didn't prevent them from doing it didn't get it he he wasn't necessarily please but but i'm thinking that but he's. He didn't prevent them from doing it. He didn't get it. He wasn't necessarily
Starting point is 00:36:45 pleased when he jumped in and did it. But he's right, it didn't happen. In spite of the request, it didn't happen. Okay, fair enough. Right, so what's that make him and what's it make me? Makes you an asshole and him a victim. Perfect. Mission accomplished. Right, but deep down inside, you're costing your son money. You're not asking, you're not providing a product that is popular enough to sell to advertisers, and you have too much pride to ask for money. You hide behind the, I don't get the concept, but there's almost zero.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Anyone is out front of a Starbucks rattling a can or playing a guitar with the case open saying thank you ever bit helps I think this concept goes back pretty far the begging for money concept but the point is he doesn't peg he doesn't beg but what he does do is he does a show that he doesn't pay for now if he had said here would have been another interesting concept drew which no one in my family ever would have done. Hey, I'll tell you what son, it means a lot to me to do this show. And of course I don't like the money coming out of your pocket. So what's Gary charge? What's Chris Max pad worth? But bandwidth, well we
Starting point is 00:38:02 don't use too much of that. No one's listening. But you know, give me a rough whatever. You think it's 300 bucks a month? You think it's 800 bucks a month? What do you think this, out of your pocket, what do you think this is? Because I enjoy this show and I'm so dedicated to it that I'll tell you what. I'll pay for it.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I'll pay for it. I'll subsidize it. That, not on the table, never brought up. What do you think the probability of that is? Zero. Zero. Alright. But then that leaves us back to the original question, which is it's costing me money.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Yeah. So, you must ask your audience for money. That did not happen. He never then made any money. Another six months went by and I said, well now, it's time to leave. Which is fine now if he'd paid for my college I would have been more apt to leave him on because I would have said well it's a score he paid me he's got 150 grand out
Starting point is 00:38:57 of his own pocket back in the day for me to graduate with honors by the way from UC Davis so now I'm paying the old man back, but we don't have that relationship So the plug was pulled but that is a narcissistic Semi-passive aggressive thing to do the I don't get it and I think this is a deep warning here folks So please do sign up to the PayPal for this show. Mm-hmm Adam is wielding his what what how would you describe that? pal for this show. Adam is wielding his samurai sword. How would you describe that? Fair. And how would you describe his role in it, like his mindset?
Starting point is 00:39:31 Denial. What kind of? Like a rigid denial. Denial of what though? Of how capitalism works, frankly. I think he sort of refuses to accept reality. Right. I don't think he blamed you. I'd be interested to know that. No, he doesn't. I don't think he blames me. He's not interested in how capitalism works because he would not, his FICO scores would
Starting point is 00:39:54 not be good in that realm. You know what I mean? Like no one's interested in how things work when if you do find out how they work, it turns out you're not paying your fair share or doing what you need to do. Right. So there's a convenient kind of, as my mom told me a couple of years ago, I didn't know rich people paid taxes. That's a convenient mindset for someone who's been receiving money from rich people her whole life. See what I'm saying? Okay. All right. Should we talk to Mason or Manson? Manson, line 3, 19, Dallas. Manson? It's Mason, actually, but thank you for taking my call. You bet.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I tried to make it Mason. Yeah. Adam intuitively knew it was Mason. What's up? Oh, yeah. I guess people have psychopathic killers on their minds lately, but yeah, I'm the same kid who called about the Adderall the other week. I had a question about kind of for Drew, like in your mind, what makes somebody like a true alcoholic? Like I've heard a lot from like my mom and other people, like, you know, there's an alcoholic gene and it's in our family. Right, a series of genes. Give me the textbook description.
Starting point is 00:41:06 All right, here's the description. The description is it is a biological disorder with a genetic basis. The hallmark is progressive use and preoccupation in the face of consequences, work or school, family relationships or love relationships, health, finance, did I say that, legal, those areas of your life are affected and denial.
Starting point is 00:41:29 In any behavior, you keep going and you keep getting into trouble, but you choose to keep going. You can't seem to stop even though you want to and the consequences are what tell us a normal person would want to stop. And oh, by the the way there's a first degree relative with alcoholism and oh by the way you seem to be minimizing and denying what's going on here that's it that's it you could do that drinking once a month you could do that drinking once a year you could do that drinking every day and there are several genes that have been isolated for this and either got this or you ain't. All right. By the way, when are we coming up with the iso gene test
Starting point is 00:42:08 where you swab out the inside of the gene? We have one, actually. It's not a very good gene. Because the problem is there's probably 20 or 30 genes responsible for this disease. The other behavior marker is resistance to an alcohol intoxication. We should have a three-mangya alcohol test. If you can do three
Starting point is 00:42:26 shots of three ounces of mangreya and not be affected, I'm an alcoholic. But is that a built up tolerance or is that just... No, it's an inbred thing. And the guys that did the research... No, I think I have that. I know you do. I brought it up to you before. And the resistant... I was drunk, I don't recall. The researchers went into other mammalian systems to look for resistance. And they found it. They found it in primates. They found it all the way down to fruit flies. So they
Starting point is 00:42:51 actually did the research on fruit flies, found the genes, then brought it back up to the humans, and lo and behold, they had those genes. New name for fag hag, by the way. You can't say fag anymore. Okay. You can say fruit fly. A fruit fly. Good. Yeah. Think about it. It kind of buzzes around. Yeah, yeah can say fruit fly. A fruit fly. Good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:06 That kind of buzzes around. Yeah, yeah. It's good. I like it. Drew, I don't have a tolerance for anything or I have a super high tolerance for everything. You're a, what do you call it? Heavyweight. I'm a lightweight.
Starting point is 00:43:18 But I'm not my heavyweight with everything. Eating rotten food and stuff like that. I don't have a, oh, it's too cold in here. It's too, I can't do this. Yeah, you're a feral child. Yeah, yeah. So I mean, it's the same with booze, but it's the same with anything I imbibe.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Any pill, any booze, anything. I'm the guy who could. Any bacterium, any poison. I get put under general anesthetic or at least put under get operated on the following morning walking around is fine. I'm not light headed. I don't feel I don't feel like, oh, I need to get some fluids into me. I just go to work. It doesn't feel like anything. I'm not overcoming it doesn't feel like anything. If you'd asked me the morning after a surgery, what'd you do the day before?
Starting point is 00:44:08 I'd go, I don't know. Like, I can't feel it in my body. I wonder if, you know, it's the vagus nerve that we think is a lot of where the visceral feeling comes from. Love that show. I know. And 80% of the vagus, you like going there once in a while,
Starting point is 00:44:21 too. 80% of the vagus is sensory, meaning going out into the body and giving us feeling back. And you, we know, have excessive vagal output, outflow, because your pulse is like 40. I wonder if you also have sort of deficient vagal return. Maybe you're mostly. Yes, that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:44:43 That's why. Your body doesn't feel anything. That's why and emotions are in the body and that would make why emotions don't really interfere with you because you don't really feel them. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. That's why I make a fine judge. Something there. No, that's uh I'm I'm telling you it's uh why I um I qualify slow and I race fast because when I'm out in the track alone and there's nothing going on I don't have anything and when I get onto the
Starting point is 00:45:15 track I don't make the mistakes that other people make other people make mistakes because they freak out when they see people in their rear-view mirror I don't I don't have feelings when I see people in my rearview mirror, and thus I don't oversteer and fuck everything up. It's the low pulse. I think that's why if you ever interview race car drivers, athletes, or extreme sports, whatever, it's like interviewing the most boring person in the world. So yet, here's someone who does the most exciting thing in the world. This guy jumps out of airplanes with no parachute on
Starting point is 00:45:48 Yeah, but when you're talking to him, yeah, it sounds like the slowest It's like you'd think the guy wrote cookbooks right sometimes sometimes with that group. Sometimes it's alcoholics. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah No, it's mostly all right. All right, so Mike has Keep going Mike has- Just keep going. Mike has six kids with his wife. Six kids. Speaking of Vegas, he's in Vegas. Keeping the spark alive.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Yeah, Mike. Yeah. Hello. How are you? Good. First time caller, long time listener. I always wanted to say that. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Spark alive. God bless you with six kids. Oh my God. Well, six kids all from the same mom and dad. That's the impressive part. Nice. Nice. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:27 And I pay for all their lunches at school. Adam. You're a hero for taking care of your kids. Yeah, a hero. Well, Obama said it takes a lot of guts to raise your kids. Guts. We raise our kids good. And I tell them every day, you're not special, too.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Good. So, what I'm calling about is my wife and I are wondering, do we need to get out of the house? Yes. You live in Las Vegas. Get away. Go do stuff. We got to have date night.
Starting point is 00:46:58 You have to. Yeah. You want to keep that spark alive. Get away from those six demons. And then the other thing is after six kids, her hormones are going to be a freaking mess. And as she hits 40, make sure that she talks to someone who really understands hormone replacement properly. And you can talk to them using GoToMeeting.
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Starting point is 00:48:24 Eric? Hey, guys. Hey, 22. What's going on? I was Eric interest me Eric Eric Hey 22 what's going on? Well first I want to say I always click through the Amazon banner on your page and always love to support the show Thank you so much Eric Okay, so my problem is I've had pretty bad memory loss I'm 22 years old and I can't remember, you know players on my high school basketball team. Can't remember things I did last week. I don't drink or do any drugs and I am wondering why I have these memory problems. I think whatever it is it needs a neurological I mean you see a doctor about this my god you need a CAT scan we need MRI we need are
Starting point is 00:48:59 you having any other neurological symptoms whatsoever? The only thing I could think of is it's very tough for me to sleep at night, but overall I'm very healthy. Have you always had trouble sleeping at night? Yeah, since I was 13, 14, I can remember. Do you ever have things where you get confused in your environment, can't find your way around? Yeah, I'm very lost on the roads. I can't remember how to get home ever and things like that. How long has this been going on for? I always like to say as far as-
Starting point is 00:49:35 Can't remember. Hey, Eric, hold on. You didn't play football though. You played basketball. I did play. Actually, that's a good point. I did have multiple concussions when I played basketball.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Wow. Oh, really? And also I played one in football when I was like 13. Yeah, usually they don't manifest themselves this early. But look, Eric, obviously we're not going to settle this one on the phone. You're going to have to go in and get one of those MRIs. Well you need more than that, you need MRIs. You need a bunch of stuff. You need to see a neurologist, and you need no fooling, go do it right away, okay?
Starting point is 00:50:07 Let us know what comes up. Schedule it straight with the neurologist? Yes. Call us the neurologist. And then call us next week and- Yeah, let me know what the deal is. Get us caught up to date on it. Up to date on it, please.
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