The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Lights Are Racist, Carolla Works In Mysterious Ways and Take It Back

Episode Date: October 7, 2023

In this episode, Adam and Dr. Drew discuss old TV characters that had catch phrases which doesn't exist anymore. Also they lament on how lighting and photography can be racist. They also breakdown how a busy life can be frustrating and how a lack of communication could cause a ton of problems!

Yo, what's good? It's another edition of the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. I am your host, Big Brother Jake, aka Jake Warner, my government name, and we got a good one for you once again. Let's get into it. Episode 1068 titled Lights Are Racist, what? That aired on May 3rd, 2019. Adam and Dr. Drew talk about the days of old

when it comes to old school television shows, and Adam breaks down an article on how lighting, as far as photography is concerned, is racist. This should be interesting. Let's take a listen. Get it on, baby. Woo! Always excited to see you, Drew. You are? Yeah. Really? I look forward to talking to you. Wow, all right. I baby. Woo! Always excited to see you, Drew.

You are? Yeah. Really? I look forward to talking to you. Wow, all right. I do. Woo! Woo!

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Who's sponsoring this show? Oh, ButcherBox.com slash ADS, LifeLock.com, promo code Adam, TrueCar.com, Pluto TV. Remember that actor in the 50s and 40s? You should always go, yes. I think it was even on Lucille Ball. I think it was like Mr. Mooney.

Mr. Drysdale? Not Mr. Drysdale. Mr. Drysdale owned the bank. Yeah. And he was from the Beverly Hillbillies. Yeah. Mr. Mooney oh yeah bank that lucille ball had to get a job at right and his whole thing was like you could make a living

for one sort of mannerism oh back routinely back in the days of of television and three channels and stuff you had one kind of thing you had your idiosyncrasy or mannerism or just that was your, that was his and nobody else could touch it. Yes. And he made millions of dollars on that. Mr. Mooney, I always think of you when I think of insane articles. There's an article that I just screwed up. Oh, yeah, there you go. There's an article, Gary, I'll let you flop around.

I'll give you some time. Somebody sent me a tweet. It's always funny when you stumble onto stuff. Like somebody sent me a tweet, like a link to the New York Times. They go, look at something. And I was looking at this article. And then to the right, I saw the other stuff that they're running. To the right, I saw the racial bias built into photography.

Well, it's black and white. I had to click on it. But it made me laugh, and all this stuff makes me laugh because, oh, look who found it that fast. The thing that made me laugh about it is a few short years ago, Dennis Prager used to kid that

if we're coming to a time that if you heard a story where the uh aclu had brought a suit against the lowercase t for looking like a cross yeah that you could almost believe it like as incredible as that sounded as sort of orwellian far-fetched outer space. Oh, come on. But that story about the – if you said the made-up story, which is the ACLU is bringing a lawsuit against keyboards that use a lowercase T because it looks like a cross or resembles a cross, you'd go, okay, that's a made-up story, but if you said Kamala Harris is talking about virtual reality or whatever cyber learning, whatever cyber, whatever being racist, that's her thing, racial bias, and that, and then racial bias in photography, you wouldn't know if that was a three-card Monty game which one was made up. Right, it's true. Doesn't sound— They all sound about the same. Does not sound outrageous at all anymore, right? No.

Sounds like a Tuesday. Yeah. Sad, yes. Mm-hmm. Drew. What are they saying? The lighting is somehow not designed for the darker skin? I find myself taking a dive into these things,

like the Kamala Harris thing with the AI is racist and blah, blah, blah. I, because I'm wired the way I'm wired, you know what I think to myself? My first impulse is, well, that sounds outrageous. And my second impulse is, well, they're going to prove it because I'm going to read this article and they're going to point something out to me. And anyone who listens or reads or Freakonomics or whatever it is, you go, okay. So if you listen to Freakonomics, they go, well, it turns out that rent control actually hurts the poor and the people that rent. It's not good for renters. It hurts everything.

It's shocking. It's shocking. But you go, okay. that's an interesting premise you know vinnie comes in in here and says butter doesn't make you fat margarine makes you fat and you go well that's not that's counterintuitive or that's not something i've heard of but now tell me yeah and then vinnie lays out a case and when he's done you go oh okay yeah i got it and when freakonomics guys explain to you why rent control doesn't help the renters doesn't help the people it's supposed to help you go okay i'll listen and then when they're done you go okay i get it the kamala harris ai think there's none of that right and there's none of it in the you know there's no argument that photo photography is

raised like they don't make it but i go into it like i'm going into freakonomics like okay now a bunch of super salient points are going to be made and i'm i'm going to be coached up but then it's like nothing right which is my whole thing is like you can make whatever proclamation you want and then in the body of the article defend it now it's time for you to sure now it's time i'm pretty agnostic going in it sounds far fetched but there are many vinnie talking about eating uh lots of fat and steak and beef and butter and dairy and stuff that sounded a little far-fetched too but now i'm all ears and then when we're done, I go, touche.

You have made your point. And there's evidence, too. I mean, not just an argument. There's also here's the outcomes. Right. You know, one of the things about important things about scientific arguments is they predict the future. Right. You know, you have to be able to whatever you're describing has to have an outcome associated with it.

And, yep, lo and behold, it does. Gary, are you able to find out why photography is racist um let me keep reading i'm halfway through what's the basic premise we haven't gotten there yet she's being the i'm halfway through the article and she's explaining how the article starts with her with the author who is a harvard professor talking about how she was uh on stage about to give a presentation and the lighting technician told her that the clothes she was wearing, which was like a tan slacks and a light jacket, a beige jacket, wouldn't work because they were lighter than her face was. And she's black. So she's going through this – I don't know.

Let me keep reading. So lights are racist, not photography. Lights are. Light. No, no. Lights. Uh-uh. OK. Got to get down, not photography. Lights are. Light, lighting. No, no, lights. Uh-uh. Okay.

Got to get down to the core. Lights are racist. Right? Well, at a certain point in the article as I was looking for it, it's like the lighting guy had to go and be coached up in the lighting booth or whatever, the stage manager booth. He had to get yelled at. But it's like, I feel like he's doing his job. Like, he's saying his job like he's

saying you're not going to be seen as well as you'd like to be seen given the light equipment we have and given your your your your skin tone like these are factors and he's explaining what's going on and i'm sure there's a super light skin version of this as well. And maybe if you're the whitest chick in the world with ginger hair and you're wearing an all-black outfit, he might say it's going to look like your head is just floating out there or whatever that is. I'm sure he's had other discussions about that. He's a professional. I'm sure he's trying to fix something that he thinks would be advantageous to you. Right.

Trying to help. Trying to help. Welcome back to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. Let's get into it right away. Episode 811 titled Corolla Works in Mysterious Ways, which aired on April 20th, 2018. In this clip, Adam and Dr. Drew talk about the ups and downs of a busy life

and how certain situations have affected Dr. Drew's mood. This is rare. Well, let's check it out. I'm still not right emotionally, like I've been complaining for like how long now. But now it's like taking a form of like irritability and like I want to fight with people, road rage stuff, those kinds of experiences. The more shitty I get, sort of the more that I'm trying to live a little bit here. I know.

I'm aware of it. I can feel it. Which is, there is, there's so much going on all the time in either direction. There's so much in a negative direction. There's so much in a negative direction. There's so much in a positive direction. In life. In life. This is a sort of constant yin and yang of kids and stuff

and people making you laugh and knowing people and being blessed and having these opportunities and these chances and creating and abundance and all this and then all this weirdness and political stuff and negativity and everything that's sort of crazy that's going on. And now it's really just sort of decide what kind of life you're going to lead, what kind of mood you're going to be in. There's ample evidence on both sides to be upset or to be elated. For me personally. Now, I'm not saying, look, if you're mad or Gary, one of the peons, of course you're miserable. But for me, you could make a pretty good argument for misery,

and you could make a pretty good argument for misery. Yeah. And you make a pretty good argument for being elated. Okay. So now that we've realized that, well, this jury could come in and it would toggle back. The jury would toggle back and forth between miserable and elated for a thousand years. Why not just pick the happy side and move on? Stay with it. Also, there's an element of time is starting to move pretty fast. That's the part

that's fucking me up. We had a nice weekend with Gary. Right? Sure. We talked about that, yeah? Not this show. Right. I mean, it's been discussed. You talked about it on your show. Well, I talked about it on my show. We talked about you presiding over the marriage

and the proceedings and all that. And it was a lovely experience, and it was going like that. I mean, like, stuff that's fun and cool is going so fast, and stuff that's driving me crazy, I am languishing in. Oh. It's weird. Well, that's an interesting approach. Like, driving here today, I thought I'm not going to make it. I'm going to, like, have a road rage experience or something horrible is going to pop out of me.

Languishing. I almost yelled at the lackeys for the gate. The gate was bothering me, just getting in the gate. Yeah. Yeah, well, look, it's true that when you're on that nerve, that last nerve. It's weird. Almost everything is there to upset. Yeah.

And I get that. And the good stuff is like it just like flashes by. Gone. Well, A, it goes you do, what I do, travel, opportunity, being exposed to people like, you know, hey, I'm going to chillax. I'm going to hang out with Mark Garagos and have some drinks. You know, like that's a pretty rare opportunity in most people's world. You know, they don't get to have a laugh and exchange ideas with a guy who has those kind of ideas.

And then you get to hang out with me and I get to hang out with me. So it's a two-way street. See what I'm saying? So this is pretty – this is stuff that most people don't see. I mean I just had a guy come by my shop i did his wife have leukemia wife has leukemia you know he's right in our age range you know he works at a fabrication shop how bad would i feel if i got sick right now? In other words, how stupid would I feel? Well, I'm trying to put things in perspective here.

So this guy came by. He's a big gearhead. His wife's the big fan. She has leukemia. He mostly kind of came on her behalf. He's a fan, but she's a big fan. And he wanted to see the Paul Newman race cars and find out what we're doing and what i was doing and you know my world is i get a call from bruce myers today who owns

i would say five cars that would sell for more than $30 million a piece. I'm just kind of getting there. Maybe 10. But anyway, and they want to take the 935 to England, to Goodwood. The Goodwood Lord Goodwood wants to bring. And I'm starting to put it through my pride. I felt like, why do they want to come? Like in July, how am I going to do it?

You know, whatever. But think about what's going on. Someone is asking you to take your 935 that won Lamont to go to England, to go to Lord Goodwood's Castle, to go up his driveway, you know. However, it's so weird. It's getting pushed into a category of, uh-huh, we're going to work this out on the calendar and who's going to pay for the hotels. But it's also important to kind of stop and go, let's steer it, pardon the pun, back toward holy shit. Okay.

However, I must tell you that you're the person that always didn't like doing anything that involved burning a couple molecules. I didn't like- You were always that. No, I didn't like traveling and performing. Yeah. And working. Working.

No. You used to put it under work. No, no, no, no. Hold on. How dare you? You used to always say work is when I'm doing anything other than being at home. No, no, no. I'd say two things.

I would say I'm on the clock when I leave the house. Yeah. And I'm off the clock when I get back to the house. Yeah. So the thing is, is whether work is in Culver City or work is doing a show in DeKalb, Illinois, it's still, I factor in the distance as part of the work. Yeah, yeah. Which does not mean saying I don't like work.

I just got into a discussion with Matt about like, where's Branson, Missouri, and how long is it going to take to Branson, Missouri? It's not being up on stage for 90 minutes. It's how do we get to Branson from St. Louis and all that. You used to speak a little differently. No, no. That was one way I spoke of it. The next thing is I had three or four jobs for a long period of time,

and I didn't really get to get home and get my hands on my stuff. So I did want to get home with these multiple jobs. And you and I would go out every weekend and we'd go to these places all over the place. And so it wasn't like – The circumstance was different. You're right. If I was scared of work or if I didn't like work, I wouldn't have worked as much as I work. All right.

Do you – okay. All right. But keep going. I forget where I was. Done not making your point? Yeah. Yeah. So. All right. You used, okay. All right. All right. But keep going. I forget where I was. Done not making your point? Yeah. Yeah. So.

Hmm. Hmm. All right. So listen to me. Now look, here's the first thing I said about Goodwood. I said, if we're filming it, if it's a part of a TV show, if we're going to monetize it in some way, then I can justify going there and doing this run. We'll be right back with more of the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics.

Welcome back once again to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. In the final clip here, episode 869 titled Take It Back, which aired july 6th of 2018 in this clip the fellows feel like the reason society is messed up is due to lack of communication they may be on to something roll the clip whenever i hear somebody say you know it's high time this nation have an honest discussion about race and blah blah blah dialogue i'm not. I'm not saying that. No, you're not. I know you're not. I always just go, yeah, right, an honest discussion and tell somebody tells the truth, you call them a racist or whatever it is. But also this thing of like, I know I'm a little broken record here,

but this thing is like we need a place where we can come together and have a dialogue and have a discussion in the community, discussion, whatever. We need a place where we can come together and have a dialogue and have a discussion. We just need some kind of community. Community, discussion, whatever. My feeling as I hear – and I don't know who I was yelling at about this once. Could be anybody. Could be anybody. But they're like, we need to have a discussion about race.

And I'm like, it should go from 90 percent to into the mid-90s or high-90s. Like, where are we at now? I mean, where are we at discussing race versus discussing family staying together? I don't know. I feel like zero to a million or something. So I don't know that we need more discussions about almost anything. I just think we need more community, more free dialogue about whatever's going on in people's lives.

My thing is people need to go on more bike rides with their kids. That's kind of my thing. My thing is kind of the opposite. My thing is instead of getting together and having a dialogue, people need to do more fishing with their sons and more daughters. And moms need to go out and shop at a farmer's market and make a big feast for a Sunday night and turn the TV off. You know, like I'm the opposite, which is everyone get on a bike and go hit a trail. No, I don't disagree with that.

But there's just all this data coming out about how isolated we are and how that isolation is sort of affecting us. You know what I mean? Even if it's just a little bit of sharing, but anything. Well, like I went and took my daughter to go look at some land that I'd torn property down. I took the dog and she got on the bike and we went down and walked around the property and kind of thought about like, like, your room will be here, and, you know, you'll have this view, you know, and blah-de-blah-blah-blah. And no talk of politics or race relations or Trump or the kids at the border or kids in the cave.

And it's good for one's blood pressure. It's good for one's blood pressure. Yeah. So let's go a little, you know, sort of Huck Finney, Tom Sawyer-y. Like, let's go find a river and coast down it a little bit. All right. Know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Jimmy was telling me he went on this excursion where it's like six days on a horse. Hmm. What happened to your friend? You go in. But he was not a guy who could tolerate that 10 years ago. You go in for like three days. You do some fly fishing. It's a place that's a preserve where there can be no. This is Jimmy Kimmel we're talking about.

Yes. There can be no. Dude. Wheels or tracks or ATVs or motorcycles or whatever. It's pack mule and horses and you go in. You don't see that as a big change in what he likes? You mean convening with nature or sitting on a horse or what are we talking about? All of the above.

Well, first off, drop your accusatory tone. No, I'm literally like- Drop it. No, it's actually- Take it back. It's astonishment. Take drop your accusatory tone. No, I'm literally like- Drop it. No, it's actually- Take it back. It's astonishment. Take back your accusatory tone. I take it back, but it's a positive, really.

Really? No, no, because- Take back your condescending accusatory tone. I take it back. Then it was not my intention at all. My intention was to go- Take it back. This dude has changed, is what I'm saying.

It's not a bad way. Well, he always liked fishing. It's just he couldn't be on a boat. So I think he figured out that fly fishing was probably the activity for him. He threw up. We went on a half-day boat out of El Segundo, and he just threw up and laid on the deck the entire time. That is Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah, he's Jimmy Kimmel.

But he also, I think he has a job that involves makeup and lights and hitting his marks and interviewing people sometimes that he doesn't like or does like or talk in politics or whatever it is. And he probably, all anyone wants at the end of three months of that is a river and a little nature. Fair enough. But that's what I'm saying. Everybody, go hit the trail. We don't need another exchange of ideas. You need to exchange your waffle stompers with a little dust down a road. You know what I mean?

Go get your dog. Take for a big old walk on a trail somewhere. Just go take off. But the research on this right now, because of the way the world is, shows that, yes, it does work. And then within three days. What does work? Getting away and being with nature and being quiet does really significantly improve your stress and your outlook until three days after you get home. And then it's all back to normal. Well, it's got to be a lifestyle.

It can't be a crash or fad diet. It's going to go out in the – how would you do that? I'd do it all the time. How would Jimmy do that? Well, that's a tall order. Thank God less than 40% of Americans host late-night shows, so maybe even less. I mean, in the 20s.

Really? 25? I don't know. Gary's got to look that up. Crazy. Well, do the math. They'd have no audience if the majority of them hosted shows. I suppose that's true.

But they can watch the other shows. Well, let's go ahead and carve out millionaire Jimmy Kimmel. All right. Let's carve out everyone who hosts the Oscars. All right? That's way less than. That's got to be less than 30 percent of Americans. Right.

I would think maybe even sub 20. Oh, that's really maybe shocking. I mean, look at it. Research it. Sorry. Because it's been going on for 95 years. Not like four years old. Get on that, Gary.

Or 90 years. Fair point. All right. Anyway, here's my point, Drew. If, in fact, you're not one of millions of Americans who host the Oscars, of course, involved currently in a late night battle, making it part of your daily ritual of taking a nice walk or, as I've always said, turning a wrench, solving a problem, fixing something, getting into that sort of tactile world of going for a jog on a trail or riding a mountain bike down a trail. You're riding a mountain bike down a trail. You're not really thinking about a lot other than not hitting something that's going to throw you over the handlebars. Right.

Yes, yes, that's true. And people need a little – I'll tell you what everyone needs, and they don't put themselves in this position. When you're on a mountain bike – Drew's checking his Twitter right now. I'm getting angry at somebody. I'm looking up something that's coming up here while you're giving a little talk. Type in – and I'll make you bet. I say less than 22% of Americans have hosted the Oscars. You want to call the over-under 22%?

18. 18? I'll meet you at 20%. Fair enough. Want to meet in the middle? Yeah, sure. All right. Gary, look up how many percentage of Americans who've ever lived

have hosted the Oscars. All right, I'll get back to you on that. Well, that's it for this week. Thanks for tuning in to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. Remember to check back each week for new episodes. And while you're at it, don't forget to like, subscribe, and rate us five stars wherever you get your podcasts. I'm your host, Big Brother Jake. Thanks for tuning in.

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