The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Mother's Day (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: February 24, 2025

Drew and Adam wish everyone a Mother's Day and Adam tells a story about a letter he recently received from his mother. Drew and Adam go on to explore a recent breakfast Adam shared with his mother and stepfather and an interesting request that came up during that breakfast. Later they take listener calls on short-term memory loss during addiction recovery and unpleasant vaginal odor.

This is Corolla Digital. Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew show. Yeah get it on. Got to get it on. No choice but to get on mandate. Get it on. All right. So the saga continues. The Jodi Areas saga. Yes. Yes. Happy Mother's Day everybody. Yes. Happy Mother's Day. And what are you doing for your wife on Mother's Day? Let me figure they getting some pro flowers. I'm working I'm shooting a pilot. She must love that didn't she want to spend time with you and the kids I

Guess but I have to work about the night before it certainly surely took her out last night I had a wonderful time. Yeah, we danced the night away you took her out last night. Oh yeah, we had a wonderful time. Yeah. We danced the night away. Yeah. I don't know. It's always weird for me.

Like, I don't know what to do for my mom on Mother's Day, because it's like, it's weird. She doesn't, I don't know. I can't tell. Brunch is nice. Does your mom go out to stuff? My mom won't go out to stuff like that anymore. She would do brunch.

Brunch is really, that's my mom's sweet spot. She would do brunch. Brunch is really, that's my mom's sweet spot. She was made to do brunch. She likes that. Well, if you think about it, what's brunch? It's basically a super long breakfast that you don't have to wake up for. Right. You know what I mean?

Here's the downside to breakfast. I'll meet you at Denny's at 8 a.m. Well, I got to set my alarm. Yeah. So this is, this is somewhere let's call it 11 in the morning. It could spill into the afternoon. I catch a little champagne buzz. Ain't a lot of nice pastries and smoked salmon and stuff like that. It's really kind of my mom's life in a nutshell would be. I mean, if you could take a look at her it would be brunch. She's a bruncher. They'd have to have brunch except at food stamps though for really her life.

It's true. They call them vouchers now. They don't want to shame. So I don't... You see the percentage of people on food stamps now? It's crazy. Listen, the fact that there are 50 million people in this country on some form of subsidy, the fact that, if you would have said to me what percentage of people in this country are on some form of food stamp or handout or welfare or disability or something like that, I would have said, well, it's gotta be under 10%. I mean, it can't be over 10%. And if it gets over, you know, we're, we're getting into the 20% and maybe, maybe, maybe more.

It it's insane. I mean, it's insane, which by the way, people will do as much or as little as you ask of them and Once something becomes the norm there ain't no shame anymore. I mean in a democracy once it's over 50% That's it. It's on yeah, so my mom I have this weird thing with because as I told you I believe I told you this one you know, she sent me the letter and you know, the letter was like, I want to act as if, you know, like, you know, I know you don't care. And, and I neglected you. But now,

Oh, I didn't get that part of the letter last time. Oh, yeah. It started with, you you know my mom has this weird thing and it's uh it's something that you and I aren't interested in but my mom's very interested in it which is if somebody says to me wow you you really put on some weight I don't go take that back tell me I'm thin I I just think I must put some weight on. And then I start thinking about maybe ways I can lose weight. I don't really get angry at the person. I say, I might think to myself, this is a little uncouped.

Here we are at this bar mitzvah and you have to shift the subject. We're at a brunch. Yeah, we're at a brunching. And maybe I shouldn't have gone for my second croissant But you've now mentioned that and I now met I now know that in your mind that is the truth now I can say to you apologize and you could apologize Doesn't help me. I know What you're thinking you've realized that you've stumbled you had One too many mimosas at our brunch and you let something slip.

And even if you do apologize, it makes no nevermind to me. I know what you're thinking. You're thinking I'm filling out these jeans and they're a little bit too tight. That I get. So for me, demanding you apologize. It means nothing. It means less than nothing to me.

There are people out there that sort of work their life that way, which is a weird one. And my mom's letter basically stated that I know I neglected you, but I know you don't care about me because you don't act like you care about me. But pretty clear. I didn't realize that clear. Okay. act like you care about me, but. Pretty clear, I didn't realize it was that clear, okay. I need you to start acting like you care, even if you don't. Which is a weird proclamation, I mean it's literally.

But it's a good one for you. She knows you well enough to know that you would respond to something like that. Well, in what way? Well, because if she said I need you to care, you go, how can you make me care? That was a long, that ships out a long time ago. Right. But for her to say, no Adam, I know you to care you go how can how can you make me care that was a long that ships out long time ago right for her to say no Adam I know you don't care but I would appreciate if you'd behave in a way as if right you could pull that off

yeah I don't know what's in it for them I can pretend you're not fat too but you pull it off right so then I have this situation where I get the letter, and then I give the call, and I do the thing where I say, I called her back, and I said, all right, turn the page. We can act as if. And then, like I said, I invited my stepdad out to do the car race, and he declined, and then they wanted to know, I think I told you this story, I invited my stepdad out to do the car race and he declined and then they wanted to know, I think I told you this story, I hope I told you this story.

Yeah, I heard the story about him declining, but he wanted to know part. What's the topic about that? Follow-ups are the best part ever if you want to know anything about my mom, the Corollas. My mom said, or I said, it was a moment. Like I said, there was a, I have a gut about almost everything, and then every once in a while I say, oh stop it and act like a human being, but then it usually gets back to the gut.

Yeah, yeah. Doesn't preclude stop acting like a human being, by the way. Well, as I've said, somebody said to me once when he found out that Jimmy's son was doing long snapping over in high school, go talk to him. Give him a prep talk. Heard that story 12 times. Right. He said he doesn't want to, he's not going to listen to me.

14 times. Go do it. And I said, no. And I said, go do it. And I said, all right, I'll do it. And then he wasn't interested. Yeah. Which I knew in advance because that's what my gut says.

So my gut sort of says, eh. Sometimes you have to do things that are right because you need for yourself to be a good friend. I said I don't want to be the kind of person that does not offer help. That's right, even though your gut tells you how it's gonna go, that's fine. That's what I did.

And that's sort of the paradigm for your mom. I called my step- Your gut tells you how it's gonna go. That's right. That's fine. That's what I did So that's sort of the paradigm for your mom. I called my dad tell you how it's gonna go and you behave as if I called my Mom on a Monday. I said I'm doing the Toyota Grand Prix on a Saturday and see if John would like to go She opened it up by saying take John out take him somewhere. Yeah something to do with cars Yeah, and I said, alright, and so I got a sort of cryptic thanks but no thanks in the middle of the week not we're going snowboarding but Jackson Hole right just not happening so Jackson Hole great gay poor name if you think about you work with Jackson Hole he's good think people don't know about him he's a top that's what people don't know really it's weird I know it's weird I don't know if he started his bottom anyway he made his name in the bottom

business one would think one would think anyway he's a paired with Bryce Canyon awesome do all right so bear Mountain now that's a fetish dude. That's a guy you really that's a specific thing. So, um, anyway, it was declined. Um, the offer was declined. So the following week, now you tell me then what I do. So I said, uh, all right, we'll turn the page. And then I did the thing where I said, I will then honor your request to take John out. And it was declined. The following day after the race, my mom called

and wanted to arrange sitting around talking about muffins, which is what we do. We talk about things that don't have anything to do with us. You and she. Me and John. There's muffins. Well, what I mean is almost every conversation, and you tell me, every conversation starts with,

here's how it goes. She literally brought a menu. You claimed her house. She came over. She came to your house. You claimed her house? She came over. She came to your house. And we're sitting outside. And here's how every conversation goes. There's a place on La Brea that makes a wonderful eggs Florentine.

Then there's John, what is it south of First? It's on La Brea. It's near First. Already excruciating. And they have a bakery. It's on the brea it's near first you can already excruciating yeah and they do they have a bakery it's on the premise and I'm just thinking myself I'm never going there I'm never you said it was down the brea at first I'm not going there and then it's another 20 minutes of they do scones but I found the scones not to be as not as good as the muffins and I and I realize

what we're doing here is having non-intimate conversation. We're talking about something. It's too intimate to talk about. Yes, yes. But however, I think what you're saying is what really goes off the rail is by her not even understanding

that by bringing up this conversation about something that you're never going to do, she's closing you out of the conversation completely. Well, I can feign interest in muffins. No, but she doesn't start with, do you think you ever might go there? And if you were to say, that's really outside of my orbit, we should go talk about something else. But it won't happen like that.

She'll keep going. Even if you were to say that, it would keep going. No. Yeah, we just talk about restaurants I'm never going go to right and that's what we do even though we never talk and we never see each other That's what we talk about even she's gonna she's 80. She's not gonna be around that much longer You don't talk about anything you're going talking to so did this satisfy her desire for you to spend time with John talking about muffins Or does she still want you to do something with him? She wants to connect without actually intimately connecting by talking about personal subjects such as...

What if you were to take a risk and throw something in the fire? We could get into it but then I'm like, well I'll just sit and talk about muffins for an hour and then we can call the day. You'd rather do that. Easier for me. Nothing in it for me on the other side. So at a certain point after a fair bit of muffin talk, she said, because I told her when she called, she did call the following day on a Sunday after the race and she did

inquire how did the race go yesterday and I said I won in the pro division and she said oh that's it that sounds exciting and there was no more discussion of it obviously but then when she showed up she said about a half hour in up to the muffin talk she said I want to hear about that race that took place just a few days earlier what the heck what did What the heck? What did you think? Like, what's going on here? I thought this is interesting, but I also thought it did just happen, and it was the last thing we spoke about, and I did invite John. So it is sort of even way off. It's not that far off. It was a big event, and it was a big deal.

And let's see a picture of me and my champagne for I've seen doctor I saw it I saw you Instagram the point is Facebook point is that yeah, I think that's a little net. Yeah, the point is this She then said hold on don't answer that question John's John walked to the car to get his sunglasses. Oh, because you wanted him to include in the camera? Yes, yes. And John had already left, and the round trip to the car is under three minutes

because it's parked at the driveway. We're sitting out on the patio, on the deck. And he'd left two minutes ago, so we got about another 70 seconds to deal with here. Great picture. But John then came back and sat down and we had a little more muffin talk. Oh. And then we moved on. Oh. And we never did get around to it. And then at a certain point, just to make you smile, my mom said,

you know Jay Leno, yeah, I said yeah. John's too shy to ask, but he would love a tour of Jay Leno's garage. He wants to look at all his cars. And I thought, it's interesting this car topic is coming up now, because he passed on the race, and then we passed on the conversation about winning the race, but now we're on to Leno.

And now we can freely talk about Leno because he's not us. So now we can focus on Leno. He seems like a good guy. Yeah he does. He has lots of cars, doesn't he? Yeah what, where's he keeping his cars? Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Hour of that, or hour of conversation.

And then, well I guess we should be leaving now and that was that so I ask you this Drew yeah first off should John get the tour of Leno's garage and what goes on and why send the letter? Why send the letter saying we need to? Well, she was there, that was her idea of doing that, what she did on the pool that day. That was that. Muffin talk? Yeah. Okay.

That was her version of that. But we've done that before, that we've done. We do plenty of muffin talk. We're lousy with muffins and scones. But I wonder why he doesn't want a tour of your car has he ever taken that tour? No That's that to me is the part that you you don't even think of that. You're so your self-esteem is so low My part is like Why don't we do my cars first?

That take an afternoon It's been brought up. It's been brought up. But that's, you know what I mean? Leno's car would take a, fuck it, I'd say you'd have to take a day off to go do that. First of all, it's asking a lot of you. Yeah. And then secondly, I got a car museum across the street here. Why don't we take a look at that, John?

How about that? Well. Why don't you offer that? No, no, I had to offer that, see what happens. But let me ask you this, Drew. I got a letter. I know. Saying, let me ask you this Drew. I got a letter. I know saying let's let's act normal. Well let's be let's as if we were normal. Let's try to

pretend we're a family. Yeah. All right. I followed that letter up with guess who's going to defend his title over at the Long Beach Grand Prix. This isn't about you. All right. And I got thanks but no thanks. Yeah that that would have been the first normal sort of step into normal veil Yep, then a few days after said Championship was defended. I got a hey what happened at that race? I met with more scone talk yeah within a dusting of what can you do for me about cars? Ironically somehow that Leno thing didn't trigger with John or with my mom. Oh speaking of cars Let's talk about this race you won last weekend. That was this huge event. So in my mind, I'm thinking

We talked a lot about Leno and scones We didn't talk about the win. So what do we need to do? Here's here's how you have to know and your mom's asking you to do this. You have to put Adam aside. You have to behave like Adam the adequate son to a woman who is really old and not capable of doing the things you're asking her to do. She's 2A? And just continue to what?

What did you call her? Too old. Yeah, too old. To do the things that you would that you think she's capable of doing no no no I don't want her to understand him too, and you just know he's fine. Well. I'm saying you just have to Be an available servant. That's it. That's the only move right, but you cannot Serve and can't be passive aggressive. You can't I'm not being anything. I'm just like why am I burning calories? I don't want to call Leno. I can't even think all right Well, if I'm not thinking that then I'm not thinking anything

And you say I don't want to do that But I will be the servant who takes a few hours off and shows him my cars You know that wasn't the request the request is Lennon's garage. The request is retarded Ridiculous. No, the request is fine. No, it's not fine. You don't take a day off to do that. Listen I've had people say to me Can you show me can you talk to Leno? Can we can I take a look at his garage and I've said yes and we've done it and Leno's the coolest guy in The world and it's fine. Yeah, it if that it doesn't come off the heels of ignoring some auto related

Yeah, I know event that you passed on. You can't. No, here's what I'm saying. If somebody said to you, you know celebrities, if somebody says, I love female singers, I love Lilith Fair. Give me tickets. I want Sarah McLachlan tickets. And you went, okay, she's playing this Saturday at the Greek and I'll get you me tickets. I went Sarah McLaughlin tickets and you went okay she's playing this

Saturday at the Greek and I'll get you those tickets and you burnt a few calories and you got the tickets and then it turns out they just they went screw it and then the next time you saw them they're like saying I'm gonna see Joan Baez. What you think like oh wait a minute I just. Yeah kind of happens all the time. right so what do you do you're not as likely to go out I think it's my only bias I think right here no but I think is this a worthwhile friendship am I do is there something I need to do to make myself be okay here's the bigger one there was no sorry sorry sorry about Sarah McLaughlin thing yeah car broke down on the way to the Greek.

Next thing you know, we're being towed in. It's being impounded. It's a disaster. That's why I kept texting you. No, no, just. Want these. Want these. Done with those.

All right, so you're going to get the Joni Byers tickets? If it's mom, yeah. Mom ain't going. I'm just saying. If that's the mom's request metaphor, yeah, you're going to do, you're just going to suck it up and do it. All right. Well, that's the difference between you and me.

But if it's just some random friend that you don't value quite as much. No, I don't. No, see, I don't, here's my belief. My belief is people do what they want to do. You and I believe that strongly, right? Yeah. Listen, I'm not saying they're saying I believe they say a lot. Listen, I'm not saying they're right. No, no, no, no, I'm just saying I'm saying

people say they want to do things. Yeah. It's like the gym. I got to get to the gym. Yeah. But they don't get to the gym. They don't really you can get them a gym membership that doesn't get them to the gym. Do you see what I'm saying? Yes. I believe people do what they want to do. Yes. You want to go out and that's not your that's not your responsibility. Your responsibility is to fulfill that request of acting as if right you were a good son. I guess she would show up and go to meetings. I got it. I got a letter. I followed up the phone call and then I did do an offering. Yeah, but you have to continue. I have to continue?

No, seriously, that's what she's asking you to do. Right, but now that's... She's asking you to be selfless in this and not have... You're not going to get anything out of it. You're not going to. No, I know. And you're going to get frustrated and you're going to want to be passive aggressive and you're going to be unfulfilled and you have to pull yourself out of it and just continue

to go, okay, and just suck it up. Make note. I'm sure you'll make note of it. You'll have a tally. But why would I do it? Because A, she's requested. I understand. I should jump off a bridge.

I understand that doesn't mean anything to you. And B, you're not getting this concept. You need to make right with yourself by doing what needs to be done as a good son. It's sort of, it's... I don't have, I don't get that concept. Right. There's a, like, do you want to be a good son? Do you want to consider yourself, when your mom dies, you want to think, I really, at

least I did what a good son would do. It was very frustrating, it was unfulfilling. Here's what I want. But for me, that's what you do for yourself. I want to be as good, I want to be a little bit better than they were. It's like this. As a- We keep getting back this, but how much taxes do you want to pay?

My answer is, I don't know, what am I getting? Do I have a school system I can use? Are there potholes? If there are, there's a lot of crime and stuff like that, I want to pay a low percentage. If I feel like I'm I'll pay more than I need to pay but I I want to know what what what we're talking about. Where am I living? What if I said Beirut I don't want to pay that much in taxes. What if you said you get nothing? You don't get your own squad car. You still have to listen to the garbage truck back up into your, you know, the wrong times

of day. But you live in a world where there's opportunity and there's vibrancy and you're going to help take care of other people that, you know, you're going to be a responsible citizen. Yeah. And that's it. You're going to be a responsible citizen. Then it's limited. For me, it's limited.

I understand. So this is that's it. You're going to be a responsible citizen. Then it's limited. For me, it's limited. I understand. So this is that same concept. You're going to be a good son, just the way you'd be a responsible citizen, because that's good for you. It's good for your soul. I understand that concept. Yeah.

So you've got to put your frustrations, and you're not going to get anything good out of it in a relationship standpoint. You're going to just get something for your soul of being, I did what a good son does. Right. It's gonna be I'm to bite a whole my goddamn lip to do it. I understand. But you do it. I think you're right. Okay. Not getting the lineup tour. No I don't blame you. No. Okay. I don't blame you. Okay. All right. Give a little love to one of our sponsors. Let's go talk about GoToMeeting. Yeah. Love GoToMeeting with HD faces by Citrix. You can meet any time, anywhere.

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So Drew, yeah, we're pre-taping the show. So a lot of Jodi Arias stuff. And you and I are the same way, which is this town is horrible because everyone's paranoid and everyone needs you sitting around waiting around and I've said to people I think two thousand times in this career You call me when you need me and you will never wait for me. Yeah You because what people don't realize is I am 13 minutes away from wherever you are and you're not gonna need me for half an hour it's it's the basically you know I had to tell the

O'Reilly people this because they go let's get them in the chair let's get them in the chair let's get them in the chair and then now and here's what this breeds and here's the problem let's get them in the chair get them and they went to the one New York once into the chair right now that you know now is, okay, I'm going to go to the bathroom. Because I know they don't need me in the chair. Because I've told them when I just sit in the chair with the earpiece in and the thing, I just literally just sit there staring into a blinding light. All I do is sit there and get shiny.

I do nothing. I don't think about what I'm talking about It's tired. I get just get it's just like it's like It's way to freeze to kick her just put them in the chair and sit there for 14 minutes before I'm out Oh fucking thing. That's what it is. You just sit there and then you go Fucking lips sweaty forehead sweaty you just sit in front They don't have the air on because it makes too much noise You sit in front of this thing like you're being interrogated.

You just sit there. And so I have to explain to people, I am standing in the room that is next to the room with the chair in it. I can walk across that room and sit in that chair in less than 30 seconds. Call me when you need me. But not only that, you're not doing that to be an asshole or a prima donna. You're doing it so you can do a better job when you're qualified. I will be better if I'm not sitting in that chair sweating for the 20 minutes before. Here's what I need to do the optimum job. Not concerned. Right.

So they need you at HLN for the verdict except for you will be there before any of the lawyers get there because that's how you drive. They needed to be 30 minutes ago mind you. They always do. 30 minutes ago. They always do. Let's not forget that.

And that's what then causes this backlash of people going you'll get me when you get me and now it's a parable is what it is because it's like it's literally it's the boy who cried wolf It's somewhere around the somewhere between the 17th and 25th time The O'Reilly producer said they needed me in the chair and I sat there for 20 minutes in my mind now I'll take 15 minutes before I get there So now I don't know what the truth is because they're saying they need me in the chair now, right? And I'm thinking what does that mean? Yeah, you don't trust anything and now there's the potential for oh, yes

They do need me in the chair now and you don't believe them. Why should I yeah? Hey, it's Adam Kroll from the Adam Kroll the show bet online is the world's most trusted betting platform and your number one source for online betting from the earliest odds to in-game live betting. BetOnline provides you with all the action and the ability to watch and bet on games as they happen with the largest selection of odds on everything from football, NBA, college basketball as well. BetOnline has NHL, MMA, and championship boxing, all your betting needs in one place. Head to BetOnline today to get in on the action

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which is I'm amazingly sober, at least at this point in the day. And I'm, and because you and I know radio, people don't know what time is. You know, they don't know what time is. You know, as of, back to cars for a second, if you did that Toyota Grand Prix thing with me and it was a 10 lap race and it took about 20 minutes

to do the race and I beat you by two seconds, if you took a picture of me crossing the finish line, we might not even see you pulling onto the straight straightaway. Right. Like, I am five football fields ahead of you, and two seconds is a mammoth lead. Yeah. And they don't realize what 30 seconds is, what five minutes is. It's a long fucking time. And when you see patience on 15-minute intervals and taking phone calls and dealing with families, you start bringing things down to the two-minute intervals all day long. And when people shit on that, it's disturbing. Absolutely.

So if you say three minutes to get in the chair, I don't even have to pop up. I can casually stand up, go take a piss, and slowly meander across the thing and sit down in a chair and I'll still have plenty of time. And people don't seem to realize that but more importantly they don't care. Alright are we ready to take a couple phone calls? Oh I have something else real quick though. Heard MTV VJs being interviewed on Stern today. Fascinating to

hear them talk about how MTV was busy keeping them down, how they were unused during the MTV Video Music Awards. Remember the time Adam and I, we used to have a show on MTV 20 or 15 years ago, and we'd go to the MTV Video Music Awards. We'd have to A, beg for the tickets. Well, we weren't invited. We weren't invited. And we had a popular show on their network, mind you.

And no, we weren't invited. We weren't given seats. We weren't asked to announce, which is kind of bizarre, they don't use their talent, but that's what these VJs were talking about, which is really interesting. And one year, we were so far in the back of the theater, remember this? In an airplane hangar, people around us said,

hey, Andrew, what are you guys doing here? You got some kind of stunt where you're gonna run forward towards the stage? Zip line. Zip line down, what are you doing back here? This is crazy No, they said to us when we asked for tickets. We didn't your wife my wife did. Yeah they said Yeah, well, we don't really have tickets and then

we're sitting with people and I said to the person who was sitting in front of us How'd you get your tickets and she said I got them from Tower Records earlier today I was like, oh, I guess they weren't out of tickets beats seat fillers They're really people. Yeah, you're begging people to go it was that it was if you were making a movie about Insulting talent you wouldn't have put them this far back because it people would have said that's not realistic Like they wouldn't put the guys who have the hourly nightly show in the back of the whatever. Very back.

But look. It's too, yeah right. It's going too far. Drew. Going into season three, who said I need my money doubled or I'm leaving? Corolla. That's right. And then how did I explain it to them?

I need my money doubled or I'm leaving. Right. But then what did I say? I don't remember. Nothing personal. I just don't care. I mean it's not worth it for me to be here. See when people make threats, don't make threats, explain to them what's going on.

I like you guys. I like working here. But, for the amount that you're paying me, not worth it not a threat if you asked me to roof your house back in the day and Said I'll give you $150. I'd say no nothing against your roof or you. It's just you're not paying me enough money You pay me to detail your car. You give me a hundred bucks. I'll do you give me three dollars I'm not gonna do it. It's not nothing against you or your car you give me a hundred bucks I'll do it you give me three dollars I'm not gonna do it it's not nothing against you or your car it's not worth my time

and that's what I visible hand again that's what I explained to them and I told them you must double my salary and and in turn Drew's salary or I'm not I will not be returning and then thank you for that I don't remember you or your manager thanking me let me say thank you now right now I don't remember you or your manager thanking me for that. Well, let me say thank you now then. Right. No, I do remember your manager begging me not to do it, who was my manager at the time too. And I said, no, they're not going to replace me.

And it fucking, I don't know, 900 bucks a show or something. They're getting a little bit of a deal. So I'm doing the math here. But they can go get Ricky Rachman or whoever they like to replace me. I don't think they're gonna be able to do that and I think they know they're not gonna be able to do that. The other part of it that I was thinking I was listening to these guys that they didn't really pick up on but it was so clear listening to them talk is that we had talked about was MTV was run like a radio station. Yeah. And they treated

talent the way radio stations treat talent. and that was that was really interesting. Yep That was a when trip rebe who was the GM at K rock Said to me when I was gonna host start hosting a loveline. He said I want to pay you I want to make you the highest paid part-time employee here I said I Said trip here's the deal. I ain't in this to make money. And if there were no money, I'd do it for free. But I didn't get into it to make other people rich. And all I want is my part of that pie. So if there's no pie,

I'll work two hours for free every night. But there is a pie and I don't need to get rich, but I don't need to make you rich. There's a fair slice of that pie and that's the piece that I'll be taking and don't worry you'll get most of the pie. But if you're offering me a fucking crouton and you're keeping the pie,'s not going to work. Now here's the thing you have to have talent otherwise you can't have those kinds of conversations with people. They go fine move on we'll go get a guy we'll pay him in croutons. Yeah right. You must know what you're doing. I've had that happen a million times in my career and it'll continue.

But the most powerful word there is is no. Don't ever forget that. On the other hand, you must assess your talent and more importantly, not your talent, what these people know of your talent. Because it's not what you think of yourself or what you know of your talent because it's not what you think of yourself or what you know of yourself. What do they think of you? That's what they're going to base their raise or firing on.

But it can be hard to tell that sometimes. It can and here's what you want to do with that. You can't be premature about it. You cannot go and go, well we've got one week under our belt, I think you guys all are convinced of what I can do, what I bring to the table, thus you need to double my salary. I went a season or two seasons of doing these shows and then I looked around at everyone and said, all right you understand there's no one else on the planet who can do this job like I can do this job, I'm gonna need my money doubled doubled and they went ho ho ho and I went go find

somebody and I knew that they knew and by the way I know that they know by their actions I told Kayla sex I'm not coming back with Danny Bonaduce and they went ho and I went go ahead go find somebody else go ahead and do the show alone knock yourself out and everyone said to me during that whole time like Oh, they're gonna whatever and I said no they're not But you have to know and you have to you better buy evidence You better have good judgment about your own abilities because I have great judgment I understand that but you and I know both though. Most people don't know most people don't how many times on love line

We and this it goes in the same category, we hear people go, well, you know, I'm a curvy girl, but I'm not heavy, I'm not overweight or anything. How much weight? 195 pounds. 5'2", 195. And it's like, oh, really? That's not curvy. Yeah, right?

I mean, people do that all the time. And I'm sure they do the same thing with their talent and their abilities. All the time. We talked to the guy on the last podcast effect. Remember the guy was I don't know He's carton milk around or something. He said and he I don't know if he could judge his abilities or not most people Can't right good and they round up. Okay, so and what you know is round down Well, but your advice though may be dangerous for people

Well, here's the thing My advice is not dangerous. It's dangerous for dumb people. Yes and unrealistic people My advice is this What does your boss or the company that employs you think of you? Not what do you think of you? I know what I do. What do they think of me? What have you delivered? What is your track record? Step out of your own skin. Be wildly realistic. And then I think there's another layer to it too. Sit on their side of the table.

That's right. And think about what you would think if you came to you asking for this. I mean, what would your pressures be? What considerations would you came to you asking for this? What would your pressures be? What considerations would you have? What are the things, what would your bosses think if you were the guy that you're asking the raise from? You have to do that. That's right.

A lot of people can't do that. Well, they can. They just don't. Well, they have trouble doing that. They, well, they have trouble because we have not crafted a society where we ask people to be realistic about not only what their worth is, but again, as I've had the conversation with people a million times, I don't know if they like it or not, but I've done the thing where the guy says, I was perfectly polite, I just asked the person which aisle the tennis shoes were on,

and he started screaming at me. Yeah, and I always say well that seems weird Why would he start by fooling at you? and all you did was politely ask a question and he started screaming at you and They go, I don't know and then I always ask this question, which I think bothers everyone But I think it's the question everyone needs to ask If I sat down with that person and I asked him about this exchange Well, how would he describe it? How would he would what would he say? Yeah, and but a lot of people can't what he described It as a person very nicely asked me where the tennis shoes were and I started screaming at them

If you can't they begs no alternative sometimes listen I'll give you another version of this what we used to have that dr.com website business back before the current incarnation And we had like 110 employees. We made no money. website business back before the current incarnation and we had like 110 employees. We made no money. It was back in the dot- Oh yeah, we had 110 employees, Gary. It was back in the go-go days of the internet. We raised $5 million, burned through it in a very short period of time.

We were being encouraged by the people that gave us the money to burn faster. We weren't burning the money fast enough. This was in the days where it was very strange. It was all the road to liquidity and how you get big fast. It was the craziest thing I ever saw. I had a board meeting for this group. We sat down and went, maybe I think we had to sort of start small and build up.

And this one of these big shop business mates threw his books down at the table. And if I thought you were that stupid, I would have never invested in this business. Oh, he didn't say that. What if I spoke to him? Then he was a manic guy. The guy was like disturbed. Oh, okay.

And he got up on the blackboard. He goes, here's how you make money, screaming. And he said, and wrote in big, huge letters, get big fast. And this is how they did that back. This is 15 years ago. Well, speaking of big, I talked to your manager once and he said, DrDrew.com's worth $50 million. And I said, well... And made no money.

Here's what it's worth. It's worth... unless you have somebody with a check and their checkbook out and they're willing to write a check for $50 million, it's not worth $50 million. It's worth whatever someone will pay for it as it presently stands. Somebody gave them $5 million on a $50 million valuation. Yeah. So somebody put that money down as a sort of a percentage payment on that valuation.

That's how insane it was that. Listen, I'm not defending this. This was stupid shit behavior on everybody's part. Meanwhile, some asshole had bought the name adamcarolla.com and I used to tell him every other weekend, just go, roll it up, and then start jabbing yourself in the anus with it. I have no desire.

I have wanted nothing. Let me tell you the story, though. So we, of course, went out of business, and we had to start downsizing. We had to start firing people. And it was really, it was a great environment. People, we gave people jobs. I was really happy to have done that.

But there were two things that happened. We moved 60 people in a room and went, I'm sorry, this business is failing. Everyone in this room no longer has a job. How were people supposed to make money off of that? They made stock offerings out of it. And then they were supposed to sort of find a way to make money someday.

The way you're doing it now is the way they sort of figured it would happen. But in the meantime, there'd be these huge valuations on these companies. Right. All right. So we had a television show. I had to put it, I'm going to put the television show up on Dr. U. Dot com. We did, we still have some lost footage from, we interviewed all kinds of people. So two kinds of people came. So we did this thing. It was terrible, it was traumatic. I went back to my office and two things happened. About six each of the following kinds of people walked into my office. First group walked in and started screaming at me.

How dare you? I did so much for this. I'm so talented. How could you do this to me? And I thought, well, that's why you're gone. That's it. I always wanna be one of those people. But I thought, well, I can't get far enough away from you.

I'll never hire you again. Forget your electoral recommendation. I've said it a million times. It's funny when the reason you fired somebody is the conversation played out. So then there was another group that came in and went, shook my hand, looked me in the eye, and said, that must have been really hard for you.

I had a great time here. Thank you for the opportunity. But man, I wouldn't want to be in your shoes right now. It's really tough. But this was a great experience. Thank you for everything you've done. I thought, fuck, I'll keep that guy on. Right.

I'll find a job for that guy. I'll do everything I can to get that guy a job. Right. That's the world. There it is. That's the world. There you go. And the people.

Question is, Gary, Chris, which one are you going to be? Listen. Good or bad guy? Listen to me, everybody. Listen to be. Listen. Good or bad guy. Listen to me everybody. Listen to me. I gathered up all these employee associates. All my associates. They've elevated to associates now? They're all just sitting on my sofa reading the back there and I walked in having a cold one and I should listen to me. They do partake. I said listen

whatever it is that happens to you in your career relationship wise lost opportunity firing you know whether it's's personal or it's career wise, but I focus on career. There'll be times when you're unfairly accused of things or let go or disciplined or something, but easily the greatest damage you will do to yourself that happens your career will be done at your own hands. You will fuck your own shit up 10 times more than any unreasonable angry boss

or any manager that has it in for you. You will fuck your own shit up. That's a model for life. Yes, so you go ahead and decide how to play that out and how to avoid that. And everyone's talking about the teacher that has it in for me, that gives way to the boss, the professor, the manager, the guy's jealous,

my form and this or that. You will fuck your own shit up 10,000 times more than anyone ever fucking touches your shit. The answer is why? No one really gives a shit about you. You will fuck your own shit up. I can give you countless stories of people that told Jimmy Kimmel to fuck off in 1998. You know what I mean? It's just they

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Stream now, pay never. All right. Let's talk to one of our fine listeners. Ray? Hey. Hey, Ray. 27? What's going on?

Yeah, hey. So, first of all, Big Ben, so I've been dating a girl for the last three weeks. We've had sex a couple of times and I've noticed a smell, not a pleasant one when we have sex. I don't think it's yeast infection, but I do think it's from her diet because she's ready to fitness, counts her calories, egg whites all of a sudden. Yeah. Here's one thing I know for sure. Yeah, nothing stinkier than egg whites. Yeah, here's one thing I know for sure.

Not her diet, for sure. The smell is caused by bacteria. By the way, counting calories and eating egg whites, that makes your pussy smell? I'm trying to grab anything I can right now. Yeah, Ray, clearly your medical training is not complete. Why don't you just go outside and blame a rock? I mean, if you're just going to be stupid, be full-blown retard. And right now, you're in this sort of gray area, sort of retarded.

Bacteria produce a gas that creates the smell. It's usually a vaginitis. It's something easily treated, which should say, geez, I was listening to Dr. Drew and Adam podcast, and they were talking about this woman who suddenly had a smell, and it was an infection. She needed to see a doctor. Made me worry about you. I noticed a little something.

If you had a pelvic exam, maybe see the doctor. It's an easy thing to treat. Some women just have a strong scent. That's just them. There's nothing really you can do about it if it's one of those types. But the fact is probably a vaginitis, vaginosis. And so something she could deal with.

But the doctor has to treat that, OK? All right, thanks. Good times. Hey, Drew, let me ask you a question. Tell me how wrong I am. OK? Well. OK.

Just thinking how risky that will be. No, no. Even just to say no to you is troublesome. Be honest. And I got my buddy Ray Even just to say no to you is troublesome. Be honest. I got my buddy Ray. His caller's name is Ray. By the way, Ray and Chris did a podcast with me. I've never had a more popular podcast.

Yeah. People love those guys. Well, interestingly, I learned a little something about you and the jacuzzi spigot. You partook. I told you I've done it before. I did not quite get that evidence. But go ahead. I'll be honest.

What's up? All right. You know, Ray is going to be turning 50 in about 20 days. That seems impossible. It does, doesn't it? Not because he doesn't look or seem old enough. He seems 12. Yeah.

Ray needed me to go in on him. He wanted to buy a house and flip a house in 07. He was going to fix it up in two months. It took him a year. And then the market fell apart. And I was probably out $150,000. Now Ray's got a new piece of property. He needs me.

I need to pay, put the down payment for it. Now I've said to Ray, and people get pissed at me because they're like, why are you treating that guy this way? I'm treating him with the tone I'm treating him with is because he's 50 and I didn't come to him and say, could you borrow some money from me? What is the tone you're using? I said, and this is what drives me nuts, I see where people are going and what they're doing.

Yeah. And I see how they're behaving. Yeah. And then I intervene and I say, here's how to fix this. Now if you don't want a house, then by all means, stay the course. Right. So what are you advising to Ray? Well we started doing our podcast.

And I said to Ray, I said, as they do, as every Ray, Chris, every friend, everybody I've grown up in the valley with, short-sighted. Super short-sighted. Short money. Fast money. Never. No delayed gratification. I realized the key to success is delayed gratification. Time, yeah. No delayed gratification. I realize the key to success is delayed gratification. I tell them all the time, this is what you've got to do to be successful. And they go, fuck it, I'm getting my M&Ms now. And I've said when Ray did our show, when we started doing our ace on the house or ace on the roof, as my dad knows it, I said, he said, I'm coming over here once a week.

I need to get paid. I said, here's how you get paid. We do a podcast, we get listeners, it becomes successful. We sell advertising. That's, then we whack up the money. That's how we do it. Otherwise, neither one of us gets paid. And he said, I understand, but I need money.

Oh, I remember you told me this story. And I said, well, you'll get money by making this a super successful podcast. So start working on it. And by the way, somebody really nasty would go, okay, Ray, I'll buy you out. Here's $100 a show. And then you start making $1,000 a show,

and you go, whoa, I bought you out. Well, I still may do that. Because he then finished my conversation and called my money manager and said said I need 75 bucks a show and I said this is exactly first off. He didn't ask me. He just said alright. I won't listen to you I'll go call Linda and I'll tell her I need 75 bucks a show and I wanted to fucking scream from the mountaintops Do you understand first off? That's a bullshit move. Secondly, are you ever gonna listen to me? I'm explaining to you how the world works

and how this is gonna work, and now you're gonna do it for 75 bucks a show. A real lesson to him would be to buy it out, buy out his piece, and then pay him that, and then watch it. Yeah, I know. A real lesson to the leper would be to pull away his stroke cane.

I don't know what that means I don't know the point is I can't do real life lessons on Super pathetic 50 year olds that live in fucking apartments and beg for money. Yeah This is for nine year olds. How about that? When I say and I and I will that's what I said when he said I said good 75 bucks a show fantastic Good, I'll eat the 75 bucks a show for now for four months And then when the money starts coming in I'll keep all of it except for the 75 bucks. That'll be awesome We don't talk about incremental cost of living raises. You may get to 82 50 in the next three years

That's what I said to him. This would be good. And then of course he, I don't know, he always denies it, or he sort of denies it, he lies essentially about it. And then he wants to get back to the top, and then he wants to get to my tone. What about the house? I said to him this time, no, I can't, I can't do it. I'm already out 200 grand for the last one.

But what I'm saying is true, what's going on? What's up? I laid it out as simply as I could possibly do it. And when people say to me, why are you being a prick? And the answer is, how fucking dare you? I am trying to help somebody. I'm trying to make someone who's well into their 40s understand a concept for success.

And they're going around my back for $75. I had the fucking conversation with these idiots a million years ago when I was doing K-Rock, when I was doing Mr. Burcham. I did it for free for a year. Then they said, we'll start paying you, and they offered $50 a bit. And guys like Ray said, 50 bucks a bit?

That doesn't sound like show business I said I should be paying them because I'm gonna parlay this into millions of dollars and they went 50 bucks a bit And I was like don't worry. It's not about the money. Yeah, I could go in and argue and get 80 bucks a bit It's not worth it. I'm gonna be successful based on this. I should be paying them. My point is this true When do you get to start yelling? Do you know what I mean? You clearly started. All right, lay it out Why am I the dick? I'm trying to lay out the fucking road man This has got to be the way you deliver the message, right? I delivered the first message in a conversational tone, which is here's how we make money

We become successful through building an audience and then selling Advertisement just like I did on every podcast I've done but you decided to call and say you need 75 bucks a bit What's interesting? It's gonna sound glib but You and I never had any conversation like that. We didn't have to Abs a fucking loot lead. There's no no, it's not glib. It's honest. It's the truth. Drew and I came together to do this podcast. We never, Drew never showed up and went, Hey, where's my 80 bucks? No, he understands how it works. Build an audience, collaborating, we're collaborating,

build an audience and then whack up the money. If nobody shows up to our restaurant, then we don't get paid and then eventually it goes under. Yes, you, no explanation. Everyone I grew up with in the valley, multiple, multiple, multiple explanation, but here's what I understand. You are asking the guy who lives on the big house on the hill with the car collection to borrow more money once again. When are you going to start taking his advice? Well, I think that's why I brought up what I brought up on my own thing here. Some people are not constructed to do entrepreneurial stuff.

They just can't tolerate it. How about they're constructed to fucking listen? But how about that? about they're constructed to fucking listen, but how about that they may not May not or do they just want the 75 bucks There's no may not I it was it was laid out here's the math get your point here's the equation Here's the equation nearly 50 year old white male with some education who lives in the San Fernando Valley here It is Now you're gonna pick up the phone and get your $75

All right, you're gonna take this one of the grave I'm guessing and People do the thing all the time. Well, not everyone is you. Not everybody understands. See, that's what I'm saying. Okay, they're not. Fine. I'll make it easy. I'll tell them how to do it. Yeah, but being able to tolerate that. Tolerate not picking up a phone? No, tolerate building and having faith and taking risk. It's really about being able to take risks. Look around. Look around.

Do you know what I'm talking about? Am I making sense? Are you talking to a fucking junkie? Look around no, no, you don't think I know what I'm doing. Yeah, but Adam some people can't take any risk They just can't tolerate the risk of dying in a basement working for X number of months without No, I understand the big the biggest risk is dying in the apartment That's you how you and I see it that The risk is you're not going to succeed. They don't get that. They can't do that.

I understand. Drew, here's the thing. I've got to talk to Ray about this. Let me ask you this. Yeah, dig. He'll lie. Dig. But please listen to me.

I understand there's many things I don't understand. That's why they have instructors. That's why they have the internet. That's why they have teachers. Okay. That's why they have manuals. I don't know how to fucking program my radio I don't start bashing it with a fucking sledgehammer I open the well actually get my assistant to open but I can afford him

I give him to open a manual and say set the fucking clock on my dashboard I don't start pounding on it with my fist me you can go look you don't you didn't build the car You don't understand. Yeah, I don't understand. I don't start pounding on it with my fist. I mean, you can go, look, you don't know, you didn't build the car, you don't understand. Yeah, I don't understand. I will listen to the person who understands and act accordingly. That's the part that's missing from this equation. I understood when I understood nothing. Yeah, go find someone who understands something and listen to them. I get it. You're superior. I get it. In this particular realm, I know what I'm doing. Yes, no, I would listen to you. Of course. You don't have to listen to me because we don't have to have a discussion because

you've listened to us. But isn't that interesting though that we don't even have to discuss it because it's implicit in... It's implicit because you grew up in a world where you listened to people who knew more than you and you understood that that's how you became successful and you really want to become successful, you go to stamps.com No such thing as a quick trip to the post office. Never. I hate going to the post office. I was at the post office yesterday and right now.

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Line three. Yeah. Oops. Rochelle. Hi there. Hey. What's going on? Oh, not a whole lot.

I have a question for Dr. Hu. Yes, ma'am. Okay, so I am in recovery from opiate abuse. Congratulations. And I just passed the six month mark. And I've been pretty consistent with the pause that comes up like at certain times in recovery. And one of the things that I've noticed

is that my memory is absolutely terrible. Are you taking any medication now? No, I went cold turkey. I actually relapsed when I was pregnant with my second son. And everything kind of came to light after he was born. And he is awesome. He's progressing fine. He's thriving.

So he's totally healthy. All right, Rochelle, alabama what about opiate abuse in your pregnant uh... not one of the more dangerous one that i go second year uh... but it's not good but it's one of the more dangerous one but yet we're sure that you have any methamphetamine history or ecstasy now and i try to keep it here in the air okay so here's the deal a lot of people early recovery complained about memory and mood and whatnot.

Memory is a common thing. Usually the meth guys are the ones really complaining about it, but even opiodetics sometimes. I remember Tom Sizemore, when he got sober, was in a panic that he'd injured his brain. He was freaked out. He was never going to be the same because he had such bad memory problems. And it comes back, Rochelle. It takes about a year.

Memory for being a junkie, though, not a great thing. Like, I remember blowing that dude in the park for 10 bucks.elle, it takes about a year. Memory for being a junkie though, not a great thing. Like, I remember blowing that dude in the park for ten bucks. Yeah, it's vivid. It's crystal clear. It's mother nature. Yeah, it's new learning. New memories. Ah, I see.

Old memories. They're there either way. Yeah, when I'm reading and I'm about to start school again and I have two little kids and feel like my memory is awful. And I'm wondering too, are there things that I can do to help boost the memory? Yes, keep working, keep exercising, eating right, and keep exercising your brain by reading and learning

and going to school, that kind of thing. Is it memory or is it working memory? Is it sort of being able to hold thoughts in your head and focus? I'm kind of like you, can you not remember phone numbers? You just can't hold onto them? No, no, see I remember that kind of stuff, but like I'm reading, I'm reading. Yeah, it's a working memory.

It's going to get better. It's a working memory. It's going to get better. Pardon the pun, but don't get up in your head about it. Exercise, eat right, stay clean, and then keep doing those sort of push-ups with your brain. All right, would you like your souls to get better? Forget about your brain. Yeah, we've got a lot of talk about proving souls today. Click through the Amazon link at www.AdamAndDrDrewShow.com and it does not cost you a thing to help keep

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