The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Nice (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: March 22, 2025

Adam and Dr. Drew open the show talking about their view being nice. Later they take listener calls from a medical student who is wondering about going forward with his girlfriend and a guy who is old...er than the average virgin.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Corolla Digital. Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. There's Dr. Drew, there's me, there's you, there's your questions. We got your answers. Thank you so much for listening. Thanks for spreading the good word with a friend. The Corolla gospel.
Starting point is 00:00:40 That's right. Well, some Pinsky in there as well. You know, gospel, the good word, that's what that good news is what gospel means. Good. Oh, yeah. It's the good news. I miss that. I miss, you know, it's weird because I'm an atheist and I've never believed in God at all and I've not even, you know, but I'm fine. I talk to my kids and, you know, I talked to my daughter
Starting point is 00:01:09 and she's telling me father's day is coming up and then she'll be like, Anna doesn't have a father, you know, and I'll go, what's wrong? It's usually these conversations are, usually the conversations I have are, oh, well, you want, you want Katy Perry as is your mom Natalia? Is that what you want? Yeah, I want Katy Perry's my mom All right, so but then how can you have two mommies? What about what about mommy? What how are you gonna have two my mommy's gonna have to leave Dakota has two mommies like you're like, oh shit
Starting point is 00:01:41 That doesn't work anymore. Yeah, it doesn't doesn't work anymore Like oh she literally goes to school with five kids that have two mommies Katy Perry my double mommy argument. Good. That's interesting. That's not good. It's bad for you. It's just interesting. It's interesting I it's it look I You know look Everything we consider everything is progress. I don't consider everything as progress We consider everything as progress. I don't consider everything as progress. I understand. And I don't mean, I don't mean, I don't care lesbian couples, gay couples, doesn't matter to me.
Starting point is 00:02:12 This notion that we need to start a dialogue, like with everything all the time, no matter how young you are, that I'm not interested in. Oh, absolutely not. This thing is like, your kid is never too young to have a dialogue about transgendered people or about... Oh, no, no. Here's the dialogue. Yes, there is.
Starting point is 00:02:31 No, no, no. Here's the dialogue. Do you have any questions about this? Does this make sense to you? That's the dialogue. No, that's not even that dialogue. It's go watch Wizard of Oz. Eventually, all the shittle.
Starting point is 00:02:41 In due time... Well, what I was going to say... You'll find out by hook or by corrup, you'll find out about all of it. Speaking of the Wizard of Oz, in due time. My pretties. What's interesting to me is all that, which your kids are going through a time when I remember my kids, I was so pleased that they were sort of colorblind. They were like ethnicity didn't matter.
Starting point is 00:03:02 They would describe kids. That's the kid with the kind of dark hair and the, see the little darker skin. Yeah, they don't matter. They would describe kids. That's the kid with the kind of dark hair and the still darker. Yeah, they don't they don't know. They don't care. But age 12, it all changes. All of a sudden. Oh, no, no, man. Now they literally just go the brown kid.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Yeah, yeah. Kid Chinese or something. No, they won't. They won't. No, they'll say they don't have a color for that. They'll go he looks Chinese. I don't know why Chinese is the catch-all Asian
Starting point is 00:03:27 Because a lot of I guess yeah, it'd be when we were kids Yeah, so and make peepee in my tea or whatever it is. Like it was always Chinese China mention There was commercials and well, there's like cartoons and things like Chinese secret young we got with the book with yeah Well, he was saying that was that was deeply offensive to him when he was a kid all that kind of stuff things like ancient Chinese secret. A friend of mine, Mark Young, we got her with the book with. Yeah. He's Chinese. I don't trust him, yeah. Well, he was saying that was deeply offensive to him when he was a kid, all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And there's a lot of that going on. And it hurt his feelings. Deeply offensive. It hurt his feelings. What is deeply offensive? I've never been deeply offended. Hurt his feelings. I understand.
Starting point is 00:03:59 You know, look, here's what people don't understand. Kids make fun of other kids, for the most part. Hold a second, you mean kids made fun of you? Chris Ray? No. No way. Well, I was deeply offended when I was being physically assaulted. You mean when he put shit in your ear that was offensive to you?
Starting point is 00:04:18 He put it there. He slapped it there. Yes. He injected it into my brain, man. No, here's what I'm saying. You can be, look, we have, over here, look over here, we have Husky and we have Asian something over here, through the glass, right?
Starting point is 00:04:40 Asian something. Asian something. We don't know what he is. He doesn't know. We don't want to know. We don't ask questions. The point is this. Oh my God. He will get his deeply offensive me make pee pee in your tea or whatever the deep, whatever deeply offended Mark by the mind, but let's make fun of him for being deeply offended when you see him or just after this when I see him, okay So he will be he'll be deeply Offended by that, but if he didn't get the Asian thing They would move on to his next trait now. They would do something to offend to hurt him
Starting point is 00:05:19 Matt's gonna get husky. I'm gonna get Brillo head and bucktooth It's not like you have a choice between gonna get husky, I'm gonna get Brillo head and buck tooth. It's not like you have a choice between Asian in nothing or whatever your ethnicity is in nothing. You get abuse. Yes, if you're Asian and you're fat, I mean what are the chances, but if you are Asian and you're fat you're gonna get fat before Asian. Do you agree or disagree? Yeah, I agree. You get fat ass first. If you're, I would say, abnormally short in Asian, you'll probably get short stuff, half
Starting point is 00:05:54 pint, whatever it is, sawed off before Asian. So everybody, or most everybody, look, we can all agree that there's, you know, the guys who go on to play Thor in their early 20s in the comic book movies who probably get left alone. My buddy Ray... Those may be the guys doing the bullying. Well, maybe. Look, my buddy Ray was a physical specimen, but he just got called Neanderthal and, you know, dopey and, you know, he got called what he got called.
Starting point is 00:06:24 And he would beat you up, but he got called what he got called and he would beat you up but he got called what he got called everybody got called what they got called something something was that all males the girls don't do that they do in a quieter even more they save it up to their 12 and they unleash it they work how corrosion and rust works we're more car accidents they're more termites. You know what I mean? Like, we work like when a pipe bursts in the house and the thing's immediately ruined. You know, they work, they're slow and insidious, you know. But before you know it, there's millions of dollars worth of damage.
Starting point is 00:06:56 You know, it's funny. I don't know if I can recreate this, but I listen to lectures all the time. I was listening to one with this woman. I was talking about sort of a role model, you know, sexual, male-female role modeling and stuff. And they're going, look, lectures all the time. I was listening to one of them and was talking about sort of sexual male-female role modeling and stuff. And they're going, listen to this interaction between these two young girls. Kindergarten, preschool age kids. Preschool, yes. And they're in a playhouse fighting over, two girls fighting over a pickle. You don't have a metaphor?
Starting point is 00:07:23 Well, you don't have Dr. Freud to figure out. Right, I see. I mean, fiercely in a battle over a pickle. You don't have a metaphor or? Well, you don't have Dr. Freud to figure it out. I mean, fiercely in a battle over a pickle. And it became, it went down to, this is how they were abused one another. Well, you take the pickle, you don't get to come to my birthday party. That was their go-to. You out of my birthday party. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:41 That was so interesting. And the woman missed all the nuance completely. She didn't make no comment about the nuance. Well, you mean the symbolism. Well, again, if you don't have to be Fellini to kind of talk about the interesting sort of things going on here. I mean, they weren't fighting over a jump rope. This is what they decided to fight over. And the boys, they were boys standing around jump rope would be your lower bow Trying to figure out Freud Leany should be the ultimate, you know inference right? I think so No, so what I'm saying is I don't
Starting point is 00:08:15 Condone although I don't really care About people making fun of anyone's anything because it's just is it's just kind of a part of growing up I'll put it to you this way drew making fun of anyone's anything because it just is. It's just kind of a part of growing up. I'll put it to you this way, Drew. We think this is such a scourge that you make fun of someone's sexual proclivity or ethnicity. Meanwhile, like I said, you're going to get called, it'll be your sexual proclivity, it'll be your ethnicity, or it'll be your size, your fat, your teeth, your pore. So what do you think that, what do you think, why do humans do that before they develop
Starting point is 00:08:50 the frontal lobe? Well, let me first just say they do. And most things that we do, you know, look, I'm not a huge fan of watching somebody pick their nose, but I'm sure there's a reason why we pick our noses. Do you know what I'm not a huge fan of watching somebody pick their nose, but I'm sure there's a reason why we pick our noses Do you know what I'm saying? I don't like it We examine our bowel movements when we're done I'm not saying get a jeweler's loop out like fondalier does over here and actually light the bathroom But I'm saying you have a bowel movement and you look down upon it. Do you not drew?
Starting point is 00:09:25 I not so much anymore, but you used to that's how we're wired now Is that a lovely trait like to count upon it? I like some so so I lord oh yes It sounds very as I created you and now I shall destroy you and I hit the plunger and it goes off Off to off to No, David Jones. Oh, yeah, sure David Jones toilet. No, what I'm saying is There are plenty things we do as human beings Male and female young old different stages in life that I'm not attracted to
Starting point is 00:10:04 I don't even like thinking about people doing certain things, but I understand it happens. And since everyone does it universally or it seems to be universal in every culture and every whatever, then it is. And the fact that we try to tell, that we try to stomp it out is not going to work. Well, hold on. I don't know. It's not going to work completely, but it still is not a bad idea to try to contain some of that stuff. There's all kinds of shit that we would do as humans that we need to kind of stomp down
Starting point is 00:10:35 a little bit. You know what I'm saying? This may be one of them things. I'll give you an extreme. So first off, like I said, they'll either bully you on your biggest trait, whatever your number one trait is. Why would we do that? What's the evolutionary advantage then? Why do kids naturally do that? I can tell you that I would rather my son especially and daughter to some degree grow up in an environment where that
Starting point is 00:11:08 happened not to an extreme but where that was present like it was for our childhood and everyone else versus a vacuum. Why? Because I believe it creates a resiliency. Okay. First off there's some truth to it. If somebody keeps calling you Brillohead, hey, it's time to bust out the conditioner. You know what I mean? Like some of this stuff might have to do if you keep getting called fat ass. That's time to change. Maybe it's time to put down the cupcakes and do a couple chin ups. So some of this is kind of on you, Mono-brow, maybe it's time to get the tweezers out. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:48 But might it leave permanent effects, though, that are not so desirable? I think if you are a weak-willed or weak-minded person, there's no way calling, you know, first off, Mark Young's a professor at USC and heads up a department of... Counting. We're a true to that kind of thing. Right. So, how severely scarred was he by whatever he was called when he was going to prep school?
Starting point is 00:12:18 Do you know what I'm saying? Long lasting? Yeah. Let me explain, I mean, medically, what long-lasting effects are. Bad car accident, you walking with a permanent limp. Not car accident, not fender bender and you're complaining about it for 30 years. That's what we're doing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:38 This is a fender bender that you keep looking back on and you go, remember when my bumper was all screwed up back in 79? and you're like man that person no business But it is a little bit of the fender being bent into the tire and it's kind of making a noise there and bugging us It's a little bit of that. I don't know I got this shit kicked out of me by rain Chris and according to Chris Ray had fucked you up They were like, oh, he was such a nice boy before we got a hold of him. Well, I used to be nice. That's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:07 Not that you're not a genius. Oh, shit. I just dumped this coffee. Drew has helped me. Clean up. Clean up our line. Drew, I wish your phone would have shorted out. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:15 It would have been nice. This beautiful console I made. It looks like I vomited. It does look like, it looks like a cat vomited, don't you? What do you got in your coffee? That's steamed soy. Isn't that nice? I deserve it.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Jesus, fuck. I know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It does look like it looks like a cat What do you got in your coffee? It's a steamed soy that nice I deserve Jesus fuck steamed soy More more towels. That's a Max of paddus gay porn name more towels steamed He's to Filipino porn They got a whole different thing going on. No, you're knocking over again. You're right. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:13:48 God damn. Listen, Drew, sit down. Let Gary handle it. Right. All right. Jesus Christ. What a mess. Steam soy.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I haven't heard that name in years. A little tear dripping down his eye. That's what you get. All right. Steam. All right. I'm going to move That's what you get. Alright. I'm going to move my mug away from you. Please, I'm going to flop. I'm going to flip it. I used to be nice.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Yes, that is true. Yeah, so it affected you. We wouldn't have the great Adam Carolla, we wouldn't have this empire. It did not affect me. I was nice many, many, many years after those guys beat the shit out of me. You were nice from, well then what fucked you up? Your parents? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Which truly is really where the rubber hits the road. No, no, no, no. I'm not fucked up. Oh? You're nice? I am nice. Really? Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Huh. I am generally... Gary, listen carefully. Nice. Listen. When I don't get nice is when, as I've spoken about many times, when I have to repeat myself to people over and over again who I try to count on to take care of things because I'm super busy and they're ruining my, or at least deteriorating, or taking away from my way
Starting point is 00:15:04 of life and ability to provide and my ability to be, I'm trying to, I've realized that I have a, you know, we all have a relatively short period of time on this planet. We're good. Thank you, Gary. And that I'm trying to get X amount of projects done in this period of time. And provide as well.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Provide for your family. Yeah. And everything. What happens to me, and when I stop being nice, is when I explain to people, here's how it's going to go, and this is what I need. And then somewhere around the third time, that's when I explain to people, here's how it's going to go, and this is what I need. And then somewhere around the third time, that's when I stop being nice.
Starting point is 00:15:49 That's how I am. I'm nice on the road. I'll give you the go ahead, you first. And I'm very, I'm never take cuts. It's all about me. Get out of my way. I mean, I'll give it to you this way, Drew. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:04 I'll put it to you this way, Drew. I'll put it to you this way. You tell me, not you personally, but you tell me how this works. I go around the country. I go to, well, back in the day. I do theaters now, but I would go to clubs, get guarantees, and go do shows. Right. And for instance, Houston, I don't know, four or five shows there, had like a $20,000 guarantee. The Houston club was in a scary, scary part of town. It's not there anymore. That's kind of, it was on its last legs.
Starting point is 00:16:43 People were scared to go there because there had been some violence and things like that and I drew okay but not that well and at the end of the four to three days or whatever it was the most miserable two three days of my life the club owner said you know we promised you 20 grand that was your guarantee. It's in paper. It's on paper. We made 15.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Can you help us out? And now it's called a guarantee. Guarantee means, hey, look, I get 20 grand for getting on an airplane. And you know, you win some. By the way, when you make a whole bunch more, you don't, I mean, I get some of it, but what I'm saying is you don't tip me out, you know? And you guys didn't do a very good job promoting this, and your club's in a bad neighborhood. But he said the guarantee is 20, we made 15.
Starting point is 00:17:36 And I said, all right, 17, 5. Meet you in the middle. And I went home. And never thought about it again, except for to bring it up. See, I would have, I think it's all self-esteem stuff. I would have gone, okay, 10. Well he was at 15. They made 15.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I know. I would have wanted them to make some money. No, no. They made, they're good at 15. So it doesn't make me nice. I don't know. Makes me fair, I think. I mean, if you look up the definition of guarantee, I had a guarantee.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I understand. guarantee I stand and I'm wired that way. I'm I'm I'm fine with everybody who is fine with me and strangers especially and all that kind of stuff, but I'm not nice when I ask for something repeatedly and it doesn't go down that way especially when that thing is Fairly straightforward and and not not for me half the time. So let's go back to why And I'll tell you why I got I turned to an asshole. Oh You are an asshole. Yeah, I turn to an asshole because I realized very quickly You see Ray thinks I'm an asshole because Ray feels the brunt of what I know.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I know what it takes to have success. And then when people come up to me and go, hey, I found another building, but I don't, you know, I'm not good with the down, but I need you as a co-signer. And I just think to myself, the reason I'm being an asshole now is because 15 years ago I said to you, wake up, let me help you, let me tell you how to take care of this stuff. Not because I'm interested in re-changing you as a human being, but so that you don't need to come to me and ask for me to cosign for things at that age. Why be an asshole now?
Starting point is 00:19:24 Why not have pity on him and just be dismissive? Well, I don't know what you'd rather have as a coach, a friend, or a neighbor, pity and dismissive. You'd feel bad for him. There you go. Man, you fucked up. You've been languishing 15 years. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I'm on you, Ben. I don't feel bad. Well I I don't feel bad well I Don't feel bad for these people. I feel like the person who said to too many of these people Look here's what I've I built myself a castle I Put a wall around it and then I said to them hey, the the flood shall be coming soon. And let me show you how to build your house up on stilts
Starting point is 00:20:10 so that you can avoid the flood and store roots and food. And I'll show you how to can food. Quiet! Let me show you. And they went, hey, man, I'm partying over here. I'm having a good time. It's three little pigs. It's three little pigs, right.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I'm having a good time. And then I went down from you know It's three little pigs I'm having a good time and then I went down from there but in every year I'd make the pilgrimage down from the hill going let me show you this is going to happen. Let me teach you I By the way who've been I'm at home ruined by floods ten times, right? So I've learned right I know the hard way. Yeah, let me explain to you. So let me help you build I'll help you fuck off, I got my own way of doing it and After about 20 of those when the flood hits and they're clawing at my gate I
Starting point is 00:20:59 Almost look at it is this is how it needs to be So I would feel angry that they didn't listen and then very sad for them. No, I'm not. You don't get to the sad part. No. Same. Where's the sad part come in? That they didn't listen to you, that they end up with horrible consequences.
Starting point is 00:21:17 That's sad. That's human tragedy. That's how tragedy happens. Well, I'll tell you, but here's the problem. I made 20 trips into the village and wasted a lot of Sundays. That's the part that makes me angry. You know what's interesting? I wasted a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah, as a physician, I'm just relating a similar feeling where somebody, I'm like, on them, on them, on them, take this medicine. No, I know better, I know better. Shit goes down. Now I'm pissed. I am pissed. I'm like, hey, you didn't listen to me when I know better. I know better shit goes down. Now. I'm pissed. I am pissed I'm like, yeah, hey, you didn't you didn't listen to me when I thought and then here's the irony as that from the physician role They're pissed at me. Oh, yeah Absolutely, they're pissed at you. Yeah, but I'm pissed and I don't feel a sense of whatever because they
Starting point is 00:22:01 Wasted a bunch of my time. Okay, so hold on So here's what I do when I get myself in that situation, which is stunning how often doctors are stuck in that situation. I think to myself, could I have communicated what they needed to have done 10 years ago when they didn't? Could I have communicated that differently in such ways to get them to change their behavior?
Starting point is 00:22:20 Do you ever do that step? No. I don't do that step because I try to treat people as if they're adults. Yeah. And English speaking adults. And that I don't come and scream at people. Here's what you got to do. I just go here, here's how it's gonna work. But look, we were in a luck. I mean, true. I mean, it's like, remember when I told this great story about telepictures fucking me over royally? Just royally.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Just insanely dry-fisted 500 grand out of my pocket. Just royally. Yeah, well, they came calling again and wanted to do something else. Well, what should my reaction be? Sorry for them? No, I just say I wouldn't get angry at them. I would just say no. No, as if we'd never had a transaction where they fucked me out of $500,000. No, I would say, well, hell, I don't want to. It's like- No, as if I've never met them before?
Starting point is 00:23:22 If a dog bit me and then that dog came around again, I'd like I would get mad at the dog I just not be around that dog. Well that's a dog. Why this is this is a human being these are human beings with brains you expect more people evidently expect more. That's your mistake. Not to get fucked. It's what you're angry with them for coming back around? No, I'm not angry for them coming back around, but my answer is not a polite, um, I've got some other projects going right now.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Good day, ladies and gentlemen. I say good day to you. No, it's, um, hey, think back a year or so when you fucked me out of 500 grand. Think about that and shove it up your ass. Or is there a way they can make that right? No. Oh, then give me $500,000, then we can talk. But that's not gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I know that part's not gonna happen. All right, I'm, yes, I used to be nice, and I still am nice to those who are nice. And- Then we could distill that down to those who are nice. And that we could distill that down to your kids. No, no, not even them. No, I'm nice. I'm exceedingly nice to them.
Starting point is 00:24:35 But and by the way, is nice isn't necessarily a virtue. No it's not. Okay. My dad's nice. My mom's nice. They're worthless. Okay, so no, I you're defensive about this. No, here's how I am.
Starting point is 00:24:47 I am nice the first two rounds and then I get dicky. I've told you a million times. Being nice the third time is not being, you're not doing yourself or anybody else. I say, my daughter does it all the time. She says, I want to go swimming. She said it last night. I want to go swimming. No, Natalia, we're sitting down for dinner right now.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Olga says to ask you. Well, the answer is no. We're going to eat right now. I want to, but mommy said I can, no, we're eating right now. Mama, Natalia, sit down and eat. That's how it goes. So it's, here's nice, here's why you can't do this, then it's a slightly ratchet up. But I don't want the sixth time with my daughter be, honey, sweetie, boo boo pie, you can't go into the nice water because,
Starting point is 00:25:49 but don't worry, the sixth, no, the sixth time is shut the fuck up and sit down, do what the fuck I told you to do, and that's what people need. They need that. You being nice is not doing them a favor. The sixth time they fuck something up. Get it?
Starting point is 00:26:04 Yeah, yeah. And let's just go ahead and translate this into wartime. doing them a favor the sixth time they fuck something up. Get it? And let's just go ahead and translate this into wartime. People die if you fuck up things. You know what I mean? There's instructions. There's drill. You got your DI. Look, I don't want to get over dramatic here, but here's how it works.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Your pilot, your chopper pilot, or whatever it is, goggles on, radar sights up, never take your 50 caliber machine gun and arm it before you put the radar sight, always radar sight up. Well, how many times you're going to let them fuck that one up before you start fucking screaming? You know what I mean? I'm not saying everything's life and death, but I'm just saying there's just certain things in life
Starting point is 00:26:49 are gonna be easier if they run certain ways. And I bring up stuff, like I said, I turn into a dick the third time. That's my thing. First time, nice. Second time, not as nice. Third time, little dicky. So let's circle back to changing bullying.
Starting point is 00:27:05 That's really what we're talking about. And you're saying we shouldn't. We shouldn't allow a certain amount of it. I think people will love that. Well, first off, we can't call everything bullying like we call everything rape, like we call everyone a racist and homophobic because if everyone is racist and homophobic and everything's a bully and everything's rape then it loses all meaning and we don't have parameters anymore.
Starting point is 00:27:34 We have to have parameters. So what is rape? sensual sex, but when you tell me that, you know, 40% of women will be raped before their 20th birthday, I have problems with those statistics because that means they're counting grabbed a booby in a swimming pool on a 16th birthday. Well, but listen, oh, jeez, we're going around this path. Well, you're the one who said what's rape. No, I know. But here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:28:09 It's emotionally significant to a woman doesn't mean it's legally significant. Well, and we could still, let's say it's an important thing. State of California, sex, while intoxicated. Rape. Okay. Yeah. There's one thing that's probably not rape. Now, she's passed out, unconscious. But that's where all that shit probably not right now. She's passed out unconscious
Starting point is 00:28:25 but but that's where all that shit goes down where people misinterpret things and women have these experiences that they experience as Problematic and the guys wasted doesn't know she's wasted doesn't see the signals. Look, I Think though we can decide When you'll kind of know it when you hear it and the same with bullying Not everything is bullying. Not every slippery slope Not everything is bullying like I said, my son said he was bullied because he was talking and the kid put his fingers in his own ears My son said he was bullied for that That's not bullying. Right?
Starting point is 00:29:03 My son said he was bullied for that. That's not bullying. And I don't mind a certain amount of bullying because I don't mind a certain amount of grit being put upon these kids. Everything I bring up will get a lot of traction, but I won't get credit for it and it will be some months after. Mike Cathwood, who I do Loveline with, brought it up spontaneously without knowing that you were advocating. Well, they used the word grit out of the blue.
Starting point is 00:29:29 They start writing articles and things about it. No, he said he said it was something he had, you know, maybe in the Vapors, you may not be aware of yourself. Yes, in the Vapors, probably. I mean. But that's interesting, isn't it? Not for me. I mean, not going to be a dick, but look, I bring up dogs on airplanes.
Starting point is 00:29:44 We'll have a problem with dogs on airplanes I brought up passion fruit ice ice tea and passion fruit now passion fruit is in every shampoo every yogurt every air freshener It's everywhere. I think we passed it. We were moving past that storm the passion fruit storm That or is it ubiquitous now? It's ubiquitous and so we're gonna move on we're gonna Saturated ten years ago when I brought it up. Yeah, no, no, it didn't exist. No, I know people didn't know what you were talking about They didn't and they didn't see it ten years ago. I was screaming who likes this shit Why does it have to be in our eyes? For what he maybe in Hawaii, maybe is that something remember that it's literally people tweet me passion fruit
Starting point is 00:30:24 Conditioner and shampoo now. Oh yeah. But my question is, why are we wired to bully? Why does this happen in kids spontaneously and almost without exception? Let's not even call it bullying. We have a, there is a pack mentality. Right. So is it to get compliance with the social pack?
Starting point is 00:30:45 With the, you know, sort of get people part of the group? Well there's a, it's a little pack and a little mob. And so if there's- Oh, that's interesting. If there's- There's no difference between a pack and a mob. Well, there's not much. A pitchfork, a torch, an agenda.
Starting point is 00:31:02 A pack is people hanging around. A mob is hanging around with an agenda. Right, a pack is going inward, the mob is going outward. So, when you're hanging around a group, when you're just with a group of people, and somebody and you just sort of, it's just a group of males particularly most likely yeah you have a group of males right and your your group your group of males says uh so you're sitting around and you're sort of worried that you're going to get singled out or you're going to get judged or you're going to get picked on or you're going to get something because there's a group of males that pose a threat.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Someone could hurt you. Somebody could do something to you. So somebody says, hey, look at Max Pat over there in his Asian weirdness. And everyone, then you realize, oh, that's an opportunity for nobody to focus on me and my Brillo hat. Oh, you see. Hey, hey, hey, look at it. Yeah, that's right. Look at him.illo hat. Oh. You see. Hey, hey, hey, look at it.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Yeah, that's right. Look at him. Look at that. Listen, but it makes you cohease with the rest. Yeah. So everyone kind of jumps on that. Okay, so listen. So what is the final, what would you say was the ultimate version of that?
Starting point is 00:32:17 Where does that go? Well, I think the ultimate, I think the bullying. No, no, no, no. I think the ultimate expression, you're on a different path. The ultimate expression of that is we're looking up at a pyramid and tearing somebody's heart out. You know what I'm saying? That's the ultimate expression of that.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Or we're putting somebody on a guillotine and we're sitting around watching that. Right. But I think... Isn't that right? We direct all our aggression over there. But not me. We're part of the group, so we're safe. No, listen, when they aforementioned Chris and Ray would walk into the bathroom during school hours at North Hollywood High, and they would say to me, come on, like Chris
Starting point is 00:32:55 would say, Ray's in there, I'm going to go get him. Come on. And I would say, no, I'm not coming in there, because the last time I went in there we walked in to go get Ray And Ray looked at Chris and said what do we bother with me for? Let's get Brillo head and then Chris turn around and look at me and I'd go. Oh shit. Yeah now I'm in they've convinced The mob has now turned. Yeah, that's how dangerous it was gonna be me and Chris against Ray Yeah, now Ray's convinced Chris gonna be human Chris. Yeah, that's how dangerous it was going to be me and Chris against Ray. Yeah. Now Ray's convinced Chris, it's going to be him and Chris. Thank God that both 215 pounds of stride-headed muscle against me. And then the fight brought, you know, yeah, now it's time to do battle. Time to run. You could try, try to run. Yeah. All right. Let's
Starting point is 00:33:40 uh, let's uh, talk about Doc Gooden. Yeah. I saw him wandering around here. Yeah, Dwight Doc Gooden. Remember him? Met superstar. Three World Series rings. Rookie of the Year. Cy Young Award winner. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:33:57 The reason you saw him walking around here is because he was on the Dr. Drew podcast. And which episode is that, Gary? Figure it out. And he is promoting his book, which is a memoir, called Doc. He chronicles not only the horrific experience he had with drug addiction and some crazy stuff, episode 72 at doctor.com, some crazy shit where he was loaded. He missed the parade after the World Series where he was supposed to be on the
Starting point is 00:34:25 throne on a float and he's watching him TV doing blow. Wow. Yeah. Anyway, and he chronicles what happened at celebrity rehab too and how grateful he was for the chance to get well and doing it in front of people, how doing it publicly like that affected him positively, which was interesting. Well, this guy was like sleeping under bridges, right? Yeah, it got bad. I mean, he bottomed out in a serious way.
Starting point is 00:34:46 But it went on for a long time. Well, it's called Doc. It's brutally honest. And it is out as we speak. You can get it from Amazon.com. And let's not forget to click through the banner at AdamCarolla.com slash Adam and Drew. No. Oh, is that it?
Starting point is 00:35:03 Oh, really? Say that again. I have to. Yes, because I it? Oh, really? Say that again. I have to. Yes, because I shit on it. I beg your pardon. I was reading up here. There's nothing out of range for your asshole. Yeah, there isn't.
Starting point is 00:35:13 There isn't. My asshole or assholeness. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know why. But look, here's what it is saying to me. AdamCarolla.com slash Adam and Drew. And you get Doc's Doc. Because it is kind of a doc. It's interesting. It's a book, but it's a documentary in terms of a, it's written. It's a written word documentary. Alright, quick break. Right back with your
Starting point is 00:35:39 phone calls after this. Hey everyone, it's me, Allison Rosen. I wanted to tell you about an exciting format change after this. I sit down with my co-workers Gary Matt and Chris and we answer your questions and get into arguments about important stuff like whether Purple Skittles are disgusting which I think they are join in the fun Mondays and Thursdays Subscribe to Allison Rosen is your new best friend on iTunes or go to Allison Rosen calm. I love you Yeah Yeah. All right. So hold on. Hold on. So Adam and I have this habit of continuing our conversations wherever we go, including into the latrine while I'm trying to take a piss and driving wherever we... We just do this. That's what we do. I wonder if the people around here think it's weird, but...
Starting point is 00:36:44 Matt was just saying that there's no way he'd be able to pee without him standing halfway in the door. Not halfway in the door. I could feel his leg against my ass. He was up against me. It was my leg. My third leg. I was poking you in the back.
Starting point is 00:36:57 That's what I meant. I thought it was your leg. I don't want to be too crude about this. So we're having a conversation. I thought nothing of it. But here's what I meant. I thought it was your leg, but I don't want to be too crude about this. So we're having a conversation. I thought nothing of it, but here's what stayed with me is why I wanted to bring it up. Do you understand that people are scared of you sometimes? A lot of the time? Most of the time?
Starting point is 00:37:16 No. Can you accept that if I tell you that that's true? Yeah, I can accept that and I can see, uh... That's where Lynette's sort of extra cautious. She gets a little bit... I understand she creates the situation. I don't argue with that because it's the third time always where the fear starts to come up.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Had she listened to you step one, no fear. Granted. But people do get afraid of you. No. Gentlemen, fear? A little fear? Gary? No, no. I don't care. Listen. I'm not afraid of Adam, but he's my boss, so I don't want to upset my boss. That's the only- I can't hear Gary. I don't mind a little fear. Look, I've had this discussion with my wife before where I've said to her something for, back in the day, we'd do something for like the 25th time.
Starting point is 00:38:08 There's like a bar room that's like outside the house and detached from the house and sort of downstairs and just sort of off and away. And every time I'd go down there, every once in a blue moon, someone would come over and they'd say, yeah, let me see the bar room over over there and I'd go down there and there'd be cobwebs everywhere and it'd smell, it'd be all musty and dank and blah blah blah and I would tell Lynette, look I'm not telling you to do it but you got to tell the
Starting point is 00:38:37 cleaning lady twice a month go down there air it out get rid of the cobwebs so that when I do spontaneously show somebody, it's not all dank and whatever. And this went on for years and years and years of just going down there and just a mess, cobwebs, dank, whatever. And I had to say, hey, you have to do it. You have to tell someone to do it. You don't have to do it yourself, although that'd be fine and nice, but you got to tell
Starting point is 00:39:06 whoever's at the house doing whatever they're doing, write it down on your calendar. Twice a, I don't know, like if you had an old car and someone said, twice a month you have to start it up and let it run for 10 minutes. Let's put it on your calendar. And she never would do it. And it got to the point where we were arguing a lot about it. And at a certain point, she said to me, you scare me.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I'm scared of you. And I said, no, you're not. Yes, you are. Shut up. I said, no, you're not scared of me. And she said, I am. And I said, if you were scared, the bar wouldn't have cobwebs, and it would be aired out.
Starting point is 00:39:42 That's what scared people do. When you have a stepfather that you're scared of, wouldn't have cobwebs and it would be aired out. That's what scared people do. When you have a stepfather that you're scared of and he says, hey man, I come home, he's the great Santini and that room's not made up, somewhere around the 25th time, you have that room. If you're truly scared of that. You do it, but then you spend a lot of time thinking about how to fuck with him, how to get around him, how to do it, how to fight the man.
Starting point is 00:40:06 You do it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you do it. But then you get passive aggressive. You're right, right, but this wasn't doing it. Maybe they've already graduated to passive aggressive. Okay. But if you're scared, like I said, if you're scared of somebody, you tend to do it. Now, I think it gets trotted out as an excuse
Starting point is 00:40:25 sometimes. As far as being the boss goes there has to be a little fear. Nothing wrong with that. I agree with that. That's the way I... We'll throw that under respect. Okay. Yeah. All right. Do you know I, you know, I'm afraid of you This now I'm starting to realize maybe you are because I think what you're you're doing is you're transferring your fear onto everyone else's Onto everyone else you do a lot of nominators. I'm an anxious person but but I but listen I'm not afraid afraid of you. I but I can appreciate the people would be. So let's hold on a second. This I think I'm the only person that's
Starting point is 00:41:09 not afraid of you in reality in reality. First off, my wife is not afraid of me. If my wife was afraid of me. She would not act how she acts with me. That's not how people that are afraid of me. I thought she was that horrified of you. She thought she was terrified of you. She just, afraid of triggering anger, afraid of triggering you, how about that?
Starting point is 00:41:34 No! Afraid of your aggression. No! I've said to her, we've had a thousand topics where I've said to her a thousand times, I need you to do this, please help me with my calendar my calendar I have a calendar I need you to help me keep my calendar I have a crazy schedule crazy schedule and I'm killing myself but what you can do is you can keep my calendar for me here I've had that conversation 37 times not not scared of me scared of me just keep's scared of me. Just keep the calendar. That's how it would work scared
Starting point is 00:42:06 Alright good times. No, I'm just saying it's not it's not fearful. It may be a lot of different things. It's not No one's scared of me. No one's scared of you. Well, Chris and Ray are scared. Look you are Grafting this this is a topic that never came up before you showed up to this place you look at it as a shut up You look at it as I am I am oh I know I'm watching people scurry around it's funny. I'm not afraid of you. I'm not afraid hurry Scurry around they're afraid to tell you they're afraid Well, that's the great argument Gary Be honest. I'm afraid of angering Adam.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Thank you. I believe Lynette is too. Thank you. I spend half of my day trying to not anger Adam and worrying about angering him. Right, because it's not good when he gets angry. No, but that's my job. I am paying to do that. Yes, I argue it's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I don't think it's a bad thing. I don't think it's a bad thing either. No, I'm not saying that either. I'm just saying it. I'm just exploring it. I'm with you. I am paid to do that. Yes, I argue it's a good thing. I don't think it's a bad thing. I don't think it's a bad thing either. No, I'm not saying that either. I'm just saying it. I'm just exploring it. I'm with you. I think you're right there. That's all. Right. All right. That's all.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Lynette does not worry as much about that. She may say she does. No, she actually has not said that. No, but your actions speak louder than your words. I'm guessing that she had a little bit of a... But your actions speak louder than your words. What I'm saying is this. You throw a party and your parents, you get a phone call from your parents. They're at the airport. Oh, we took an earlier flight, hon.
Starting point is 00:43:37 We'll be home in an hour. The place is a mess. You scurry around cleaning up, throwing away beer cups, emptying things, straightening out the garbage as fast as you can, right? Bowling pins out of there. You're going to get the bowling pins out of there. All right. Why? Scared mom and dad are going to come home, find out you had a party while they're out of town. But if you get that phone call in the house with the beer cans strewn everywhere, hey, we're home.
Starting point is 00:44:04 We took an earlier flight. We'll be home in an hour. And you go, okay, I'm gonna play some Tetris. And you sit down and turn on the computer. Would that person be scared? Is that person scared? Not terrorized, that's for sure. Is that person scared that the person is gonna come home?
Starting point is 00:44:20 No, the scared person scurries to clean up the house for mom and dad come home. The unscared person says, I'm going to watch some TV. Actually, another point. Do you mind this conversation? Because I have one more place to go. I don't mind it. It's probably going to get me in trouble when I get home.
Starting point is 00:44:34 No, because here's... But I don't mind it. But I'm saying that's not fearful. Okay. But here's where... Here's what I did discover is, as she has said, well, she didn't say it. I recognize it, is that she adores you and wants more from you.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Yes. Positive. Yes. And almost can't get enough. And same with your kids. And so when the angry and stuff comes in, it's extra deflating. Does that make sense? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Does that? So that's all. That's all I'm saying. that make sense? Yeah. Does that? So that's all. That's all I'm saying. That's it. Yeah. Extra deflating. Well, because you want, you really like that person.
Starting point is 00:45:12 You really want good from them. You want more from them. And then they come at you with stuff. And yes, it may be her fault. Yes, maybe she can change it. And she's trying to, I think. Isn't she? You've said she's really doing better with all that stuff that you want.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Yes. It's not, you know, listen, my problems, my arguments with my wife have basically been this in a nutshell. It's not stuff that I want. It is our world, you know. To make it better. It's our stuff. I'm going to go out on the road and try to kill myself. You're going to take care of the calendar so I can go out on the road. I think she is feeling... And that'll be... The money then will be brought home and split. Am I right? It'll be used for all the stuff that is used around here. I've heard her say, I think, correct me if I'm wrong, but that she is more collaborative these days.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Yes. She does understand that you give her and the kids an amazing life and shows appreciation of that, but maybe not enough. Well, to me it's not about showing the appreciation, it's the appreciation through the action. Okay, I don't think she knows that. No, I don't think she gets that. I don't think she gets that. Just FYI, whatever. All right. Which that's good. That's good to know that. Maybe she can hear that. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So don't appreciate by saying I appreciate it. Show appreciation by supporting it so I can keep doing it.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Yes. I've said Mangria is a joint venture venture you own half of the business it'll quiet uh... but you are going to have to go to the website maybe even daily but only for five minutes and make sure that the events are in order if i'm going to go do an event it's gonna have to be on the web and if you have to check and if you do that i'll know you really appreciate what i'm doing okay that's the piece of mess
Starting point is 00:47:03 okay i don't i'm not I but I don't feel like I'm I'm not talking I'm not dealing with special needs children. You're also not dealing with one of your buddies. You're dealing with. Yeah, I know. I know. But I'm I'm saying there this is a great opportunity and a great venture. You're not wrong. All right. And you will. Yes. All right. I shall I shall add that part. Okay. I shall add that part. All right that's now luckily no time for phone calls. Take a couple. Mm-hmm but Drew in a world where you're constantly saying to me look leave everyone alone nobody's doing. I'm saying that too? Yes yes nobody changes that's the way they do things they bubba bubba bubba. No No, I'm saying don't have an aneurysm because people don't change.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Be careful. You're expecting too much of people. No, I'm not. Sometimes. Sometimes. Maybe not Lynette. Lynette can do it. Lynette has changed.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Look at the Asian guy over there. The sort of Asian guy. Dramatically and is doing a great job. And you've had to put a real effort into I have and it's worth it. It's a marriage. It's a collaborative thing. I'm not saying wasting that energy on everybody is good. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. I'm doing it for them. And this is back to the Noah's Ark. Listen,
Starting point is 00:48:21 you can ask Matt, you can ask the porcelain punisher. Half the conversations I have with him are just motivational, not to do with me, just life motivational speeches. No, I know. You're very good at that. I understand that. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Not telling him what he can do for me. All right. What do you got? Virginia? Oh, no. Virgin. Sorry. New York.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Social person. 25. Peter? Hello? What's going on? Hey, thanks for taking my call. First time caller. Our pleasure. What's up? Still a Virgin? I am. Are you religious? No. Alright. Trouble? Why are you a virgin, I guess is what Adam's asking. Yeah, I think, I mean, it's hard to say, because I'm not, I have friends. I'm not an unsocial person. I just, I think I clearly have trouble talking to women, but I also, maybe I'm a little insecure about my looks. I'm not ugly, but I just, I look younger than I am.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Do you date women? No, I've never been on a date. Do you get stuck in the friend zone a lot? Yes, and no, I mean I would say I don't really have any close friends that are women most Yeah, well with the computer now you can do whatever you want I mean it used to be if you were shy and up in your head and whatever insecure about your looks or your whatever you have to literally go up to someone at a bar and tap on the shoulder and that was right that was just Really below a bar fight like in terms of anxiety level right now you can do whatever you want online true
Starting point is 00:50:00 Here's the thing though Peter and here's what I would suggest. I know Dr. Drew will back me up wholeheartedly here. You cannot start talking people's ears off about, you know, this is my first date, don't expect, I'm a virgin and I don't have experience and if I don't pull your chair out, it's not because I'm being rude, it's just because I've never done this before. Leave, whatever you were in the past, let's just take it from here. You are a 25 year old, you live in a metropolitan city, and let's just pretend,
Starting point is 00:50:39 I'm not saying make up a person, but let's pretend you had a high school girlfriend, let's pretend you did a little dating in college as if we call and then when you show up it's not your first rodeo yeah oh won't I how do I fake it if it is my first rodeo like let's say I get to that point by not being nervous and chattering by not doing a thing where you know it's basically you, it's basically you're doing an audition, you know, and you want to get into Philharmonic and you got your saxophone out and the board is sitting in front of you.
Starting point is 00:51:19 While you're getting your saxophone out, you don't go, you know, it's a little bit rusty. I haven't played in a little while. It's been a little while now. I've played a little high school. I was having a, ah, jeez, it's a little bit rusty. I haven't played in a little while. It's been a little while now. I mean, I've played a little high school. I was having a, ah, jeez, where's my valve oil? Oh, I don't have valve oil. Anyway, so some of this might be a little bit sticky. The reed's a little bit old.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Anyway, I'm going to play something. Again, you know, I'm no bird over here. It's probably not going to sound like you're using it. Don't lay all that out. And by the way, that only works if it's ironic, like you pick it up and kill with the saxophone afterwards. The board that's looking to see if you're going to be in the Philharmonic has now got you off the list before you fucking played your first note.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Don't go in with that. Just play your ass off. That'll be it. That's right. Boy, what a picture. I scare myself with my words. Scared of my own words. They're such genius.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Lucas? It's frightening. Yeah. What's going on, man? Nothing. Huge fan. Long time no see, first time caller. Says you're a medical student. What year are you? I just finished my first time caller. Says you're a medical student. What year are you? I just finished my first year. Those first years, they're grueling, but they're fun.
Starting point is 00:52:28 They are fun. It gets much more. If you say so. No, no, listen, because your life will not be your own starting year three until you finish your residency. It's just you disappear. You die.
Starting point is 00:52:38 And you just sit in the hospital for the whole time. But anyway, what's happening? So I have been dating this girl. we've been dating for quite some time, met in college. And you know, she's a year older than I am, she's 26, gonna be 27, kinda clock ticking a little bit. And she, she's just kinda like fed up with the whole thing. And I'm having a really hard time with her. It seems like we have the same conversation every two or three months.
Starting point is 00:53:10 She's out of college. She's working. Yeah, she's a pharmacist. Oh, nice. But Lucas, this is going to go up. Crazy nationality? Well, she's Indian. What a shocker.
Starting point is 00:53:19 What do I know? Let's get lucky with my guesses. I like the way Adam considers the two billion people crazy. Crazy, what a rare nationality. Look, Lucas is calling from what state? Wisconsin. When you see a guy calling from Wisconsin, you just think bangs and white and blonde hair, right?
Starting point is 00:53:38 You know, it's a quick funny story. On Loveline with Catharine and I, we had this guy from Ohio call in. He goes, I had this girlfriend, she was amazing, she was Chinese, she treated me, she was beautiful, and she went back to China. Where am I ever gonna find another Chinese woman? We were like, oh my God, coming from Southern California, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Yeah, go to UCLA. But listen, there's no such thing as a pharmacist, there's no Anglo-pharmacist anymore. Those days are gone. They're gone. Lucas, here's the deal. It's going to get a lot worse, a lot worse. This is the time, first year is when you, believe it or not, when you actually have
Starting point is 00:54:13 time, believe it or not. I know it seems hard to believe, but trust me. No, please. No, no, no, no, no. They kick your ass. They do. And this girl, she's not going to see you for days at a time. Forget coming home and having to hit the books. You're not going to be out gonna see you for days at a time Forget coming home and having to hit the books. She is you're not gonna be out of the hospital for how long you guys been going out
Starting point is 00:54:30 We've been going out for like four years. I don't think it's gonna be careful. Here's one other thing. I'll tell you every single Union every single boyfriend girlfriend every single marriage that started our class in medical school did not finish. 100%. All the marriages broke up, all the girlfriends broke up, 100% of my class. So if that tells you what to expect, Lucas, I think you're in that category. And he's younger, her clock's ticking. You change a lot in training, too. All right. I want to thank everyone. I want to tell everyone that they can click through the Amazon link if they're going to
Starting point is 00:55:06 Amazon. They're going to get something and support us, adamandrewshow.com. Adam and Dr. Drew Show. I always screw that up. I don't know why I screw it up every time. I think it's because I announce I screw it up every time. Also, it doesn't cost you a thing. What?
Starting point is 00:55:26 I'm looking at a note here from Gary, but I'm not sure why. Why are you writing that note, Gary? No, keep going. Okay. Anyway, Adam and Drew reunion tour that was cut up nicely by Chris Max Pata. It highlights first three shows, Bakersfield, Santa Barbara, Denver, all available on iTunes. on iTunes and you can get a mcroll.com as well And you can hear us for under five bucks. So why not so until next time Sam Krola for dr. Drew and Chris Max pattern Gary
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