The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Peeing During Sex (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)
Episode Date: November 19, 2024Adam and Drew take questions from a heroin addict without money for treatment and a guy who wants to ask his girlfriend to lose weight. Plus, they break down trippy '60s songs....
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Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board certified physician
and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. you're listening to the Adam and Drew show
Yeah, get it on got to get it on their choice, but get on man. They get it on
All right, Drew. We should try to answer some phone calls for straight off
Really? Yeah, you don't want to talk. I want to talk to the people man. You know me roll calls
Jesus roll calls. I was told, roll calls. Oh, Jesus.
Roll calls.
I was told to roll calls many years ago.
It's just starting to sink in.
Wait, talk less and take calls, right?
Talk less, take calls.
I never knew quite how to take that advice, seeing as how we were doing a talk show that
I hosted.
But talk less was always the eating.
Chris Maxpada, you think that's what Adam should do, right?
Talk less?
Mm-hmm.
Chris Maxpada, yeah.
What'd I say wrong?
No, no, you said it right, I guess.
What's wrong?
Am I getting wrong?
Am I putting names together?
Talk less, Chris Maxpada.
What am I saying?
It's his name.
Okay.
That's not Chris's real name.
That's his nickname.
Okay, well that's the only name I know. Listen, you guys have a... I don't know what the hell.
What the hell? What do you know, guys?
I don't know. Their names sound like weird things. I don't want to call it out and go
haha.
Uh huh.
Boy, behold, it does.
Uh huh.
Well, he's forever going to be that for me. Tampompian. Chris Tampompian. I wonder why he looked at
me like with that kind of like, he takes it from Corolla, doesn't take it from me so much.
He never even blinked when you said that. No, he has a real, he has a regular, well it's
not a regular last name, it's not normal, but it's not- It's gotta be like weirdly Hispanic.
Loxamana.
Loxamana.
Loxamana.
Yeah.
Your last last name was Chris Maxapana.
I didn't even think about it, you don't call him that,
it's all you ever call him.
What if I called him Douchebagel?
I might have picked it up.
I would have, what would you think his name would be?
You understand how gullible I am?
No, I know you're very gullible, I understand that.. Alright, listen, someone's worried about a friend who's on heroin, the
guy just starts smoking at 15, all sorts of good stuff. Alright, let's see, line two.
Rob? On behalf of literally millions of people, it is fantastic to hear the two of you doing
a regular show together, so thank you for this adam and thank you for the pirate ship thank you rob from atlanta
age forty six what's the question and a hat soft adam for putting this all
together
god it's amazing what he's been able to achieve here amazing and that pleasure
to be back
it's so true that i'm a real hardcore radio listener and terrestrial radio in
the last decade
has just bottomed out
and it is such a breath of fresh air to go on to Adam's site and have all these options and listen to
them for free and they support it through Amazon.com I mean this is the
future and you are on the Vanguard and Adam you're gonna be in the broadcasting
Hall of Fame you know 50 years from now you're gonna be an icon do you realize
that you realize you're changing the medium no I never think about it for a
second and and hang on why haven't you been sort of received You're changing the medium. No, I never think about it for a second. And, uh, and, uh...
But hang on, though.
Why haven't you been sort of,
received any accolades through broadcasting
kinds of, uh, music, or whatever?
Of his freedom.
I don't, well, first off,
broadcasting is broadcasting.
It's sort of like my grandfather,
when he saw my improv comedy show many years ago, he said,
I do not like this.
And then I realized, well, A, he was a Corolla, but B, he didn't like it because he was a
writer.
And this is basically you making shit up as you go along means you don't need me to write
a script.
So you doing a podcast on your own terms means we don't need an antenna, we don't
need an FCC license, and we don't need the radio station, which who built the broadcasting
hall of fame?
I get it. However, I posit that this should be under that umbrella as should satellite,
which are all been of the same sort of rubric.
All right. Well, maybe one day. But thank you so much, Rob. Question?
One last staying on it
We'd love to hear more musicians on your own podcast because you have a very unusual approach
So particularly unusual approach to your interviews to them to who normally interviews musicians. Well, thanks. I
try to
prepare for my all interviews by not preparing and
I'm proud to say that you get guys in here like Jeff Lin
And I'm proud to say that you get guys in here like Jeff Lin
From ELO and I realized I've never heard the guy talk and yet the guys a musical genius I mean he he wrote every song he sings every song he plays all the instruments
He put everything together ELO is Jeff Lin and it's unbelievable what a musical producing genius that guy is yet
I've never really heard him sit down and talk. Yeah that was that was nice all right thank you Rob now no more
compliments here we go yes
friend who's been slowly sliding into the heroin addiction he's also into the
pills and the powders and I'm not saying I'm an okie from Muskogee but the pills
and the powders I've never really had a taste for. I've seen them destroy people. But this is a very close friend of mine, a
very intelligent guy, engineering degree, and he cleans houses. You know what I mean?
This sort of thing.
Yeah, but Rob, addiction has no relationship to intelligence or education. It takes everybody
down, no matter who you are.
So I feel helpless from my perspective. I mean, he's not bottomed out. He might even be going to jail.
He doesn't have money to get proper rehab. I'm in Georgia where I love living here. Very conservative
state though. The services in this direction are kind of like elementary school. They're really not
very progressive. Not true. Based on what I've heard. Not true. I refer to a place just outside
of Atlanta called the Talbot Center that is excellent.
It's not cheap.
That's what he's saying.
No, I know.
But I don't know if they have any county-funded beds or resources that are available.
But I would trust anywhere that they refer to people because they're an excellent program.
So you might call them and say, I have limited resources there.
Do you guys have any idea what's out there?
And usually, in fact, most states have something.
California's the one that's really out,
regreedious, got nothing, basically.
I mean, it's hard to get anything here.
But most states have something out there.
Why?
Because we're broke, we have the most junkies.
Yeah, we're debt like crazy,
and we don't spend our money on, you know, people are sick.
Wow, we raised those taxes a little bit,
we'd have more money to buy those beds. Know what I mean? Don't worry, it's it's underway. Okay. Well, I'm sure that right now. We're just working on the debt
I'm sure that's where the money will go right to those beds, right?
Exactly guys like you to start paying their fair share and then we could help other people out who just didn't have it as good
As you had it growing up. So Rob
Unfortunately, you can't save the guy's life you can try
Rob, unfortunately, you can't save the guy's life. You can try.
Him going to prison may not be such a bad thing for him.
He saved his life.
A prison often is a place where people find sobriety and just try to get, see if there
are any alternative sentencing, any other programs out there within the jail system,
within the prison system, because that can, you know, one of those teen moms I treated,
or I worked with rather, Amber, went to prison in Indiana, and she tried to turn herself in.
She was dying of drug addiction.
And they have a fantastic program.
She's going to be in it for like two years.
I mean, it's like, if I were to design a perfect program, they have that for dozens of girls
there in prison.
And it's stunning how good it is.
So she'll be fine because she went to prison and because the prison system had those resources.
All right. This fella, Jeff, from Yorba Linda 26, wants to approach his girlfriend about
her weight gain. Jeff?
Hi guys, how you doing?
Good. How much weight has she put on?
About 15 to 20 pounds probably in the nine'm on he was looking good when we first started in the end
you know holidays came
you know before that even
here started to gain a little bit
month-by-month and
i really like the girl but
the kind of killer
the political attraction
have you gained any way that time period
uh...
i mean Have you gained any weight in that time period? Um I mean maybe five to ten but that comes off. I mean I put it on and take it off put it on and take it off
type of thing
Yeah, how's she feel?
I mean has she been making any comments about I got to get to the gym or these uh pants are tight or any of that stuff?
Yeah, yeah, she I mean she always talks that she's gonna go to the gym sometimes, then, I mean, I'd say 98% of the time she'd be like, well, I'm too lazy to
go, I'm just going to walk the dog.
And I don't think walking is going to quite do it.
Why don't you get like a gym membership together and take her with you?
Here's the problem.
I mean, honestly, I do think every time you tell a woman she could lose a few that's good for
about an eight pound gain on them. Like women aren't guys and I'm starting to
learn this the hard way but a little straight talk constructive criticism
reality on realities terms does not work for them. They don't they don't react the
same way they don't feel the same way they don't react the same way, they don't feel the
same way, they don't hear the same way. There's a lot of stuff that just makes sense to you as a guy,
like, hey, this is about you, it's about your health, it's about our sex, it's about your parents,
and I'm sure you want to do this not so fast with you and your logic, buster. There could be repercussions. So unfortunately, she is
going to have to want to do this. You can't want it enough for the two of you. I do think
there's a part where you can say, I am not as attracted to you as I will Yeah, you're right. You can never say that yeah, yeah, that's not gonna work scratch that you can
You can say hey, I put on a few pounds here. I should like to take about only think
By the way when people talk to me, how come they don't go I know I'm a colossal asshole
How come they don't go, I know I'm a colossal asshole, and as it turns out, you're a colossal asshole too.
Why does everyone, how come everyone has to do this with everyone else?
Where they go like, I put on a few pounds, maybe you put on a few pounds.
Or I've sometimes raised my voice, now maybe you've, no one does that with me, everyone's
just like, hey asshole.
No one goes, turns out I'm an asshole but now you're an
asshole too if your assholes automatic there you sort of one assholes to say
something my asshole can take a pounding you can beat the shit out of my asshole
rough it up fucking roll it and dirt punch it Just ball up your fist and never stop my asshole can take any anything you can dish out
Anything you got go ahead bring it my asshole can take it
All right, so Jeff I think
Yeah, you got it, you gotta include yourself.
At a certain point, you can simply say that,
look, and this is something that Drew and I
have spoke about before on this podcast,
which is, you know, if this is what it's like at 26,
46 is gonna be trouble.
Worry about your health, yeah.
Yeah, worry about your health, yeah.
And let's get a gym membership going,
and let's watch our dial-up.
I've decided for me I wanna do this.
You wanna join me?
Yeah, that's kinda what it is.
You sort of spearhead the,
we're having a brocca flour and chicken breast tonight
versus lasagna, and hopefully they'll go along with them.
With you, if you hit them with an ounce of shame,
chicks eat when you
shame them. You know what I'm saying?
Yeah. Well, let me, I have a question for you. It seems like the, one of the, you know,
we lament the changes in the sort of culture and the personality profiles of people these
days, so to speak. And one thing I think has changed is this whole notion of leadership
by example. That just doesn't exist anymore.
You know what I mean?
It's like leadership is thought of as like, hey man, don't you see what you're doing?
You need to wear your seatbelt as opposed to, hey buddy, I'm going to wear my seatbelt
all the time.
See how I do this?
Let's go.
Let's go, buddy.
Leading by example is sort of like, it doesn't occur to them? Well, I don't know because I've found that that's not always real effective either.
If you don't start with that.
It doesn't hurt.
If you don't start with that.
If you don't start with that, yeah, it may not be, but you don't start with that, you
ain't got much to build off of, it seems to me.
Right.
Yes.
Agreed.
All right, let's see.
Somebody has a libido issue. That's Eric on line for Eric
Forty-six. How you doing guys? Good. Good. How you doing? Well, okay. I'm doing to you in a nutshell
46 years old. I'm a straight white male living in Chicago. I've been living with my girlfriend for about five years
She's been involved for seven years
Seven and a half years ago. I found out that the most exciting physically and spiritually woman I've ever known in my
life was married and that ended in flames.
Wait, wait, wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa. So I don't understand that part of the story. You got
involved with a married woman?
Yeah, I didn't know she was married. I moved out here from LA to be with her and found
out about four months after I moved out here that she was
Indeed still married to her husband
So the to sort of paint her with the brush of this is the most exciting wonderful woman I've ever met
No, she was a lying sack of ass. She was manipulative. This means funnest in bed
She's crazy. Yeah fun in bed
Yeah, she was dynamic in in the sack. Oh
Yeah that and above among other things. What does that mean? She was bipolar and was manic
I mean again, I need to understand how your head was
She was basically she basically gave me in the course of our short relationship
She basically did to me everything I've ever done the women in my life up till that point. What does that mean?
I just I just got it point. What does that mean?
I just got it back.
What does that mean?
Meaning I was a dog. I was a complete jerk. And I fell for this girl and found out after
I moved across the country that she was basically the Fiat Bill version of me in my twenties.
Which is what?
Well, just taking bullshit, taking advantage of the player.
So you manipulated women, you were sexually addicted. You didn't care about anybody but yourself
Yeah, basically, okay
I don't have ex-girlfriends. I have victims that was my methodology
Well, so Eric are you like a sociopath or a narcissist? Is there something? No, I crowded that I mean I there was yeah
There was some antisocial personality disorder in teens in the night in my early twenties right there
not yet i get my late thirties and you know i just decided that you know what
you got to be a man you got a little of your life honestly it according like you
said before you got a little life on life terms and
i grew to do that
uh... but in the course of my realizing that i had that wasn't completely
uh... you know clean and sober and sober and above water.
So, Eric, dude, you speak of lots of flowery, sweeping generalities.
Were you a drug addict?
I was an alcoholic.
Okay, and what have you done for that?
I've been sober for six and a half years.
In the program?
In the program.
I'm in recovery, yeah.
You have a sponsor now?
Yes, I do.
Do you sponsor other people? I don't sponsor anybody else yet. I don't trust myself yet. Okay. All right recovery. You have a sponsor now? Yes, I do. Do you sponsor other people?
I don't sponsor anybody else yet. I don't trust myself yet.
All right, but he has a sponsor. No, no, no.
So...
That's pretty good, by the way, Eric.
Oh, listen, Eric, because before when you talked about,
I just grew out of my sociopathy, it doesn't work like that.
But the program...
Well, I stopped drinking.
No, I understand. I get it now. You're an addict, alcoholic.
You're in your disease. You're now in recovery.
You're living a certain kind of life.
Okay. Okay. Now I get that. And then you, being
kind of a sex addict, got involved with another sex addict who was probably sort of like a
Jodi Arias type, like a borderline or associate.
Who's that?
This chick that killed her boyfriend by stabbing him 30 times, shooting him in the face, cutting
his head off.
Was he asking for it?
Well, he was being a dick. Yeah, he was kind of, he wasn't asking for that. stabbing him 30 times shooting him in the face cutting his head off
Well, he was being a dick yeah, he was he wasn't asking for that whether that happened yeah Yes, I bet it we that's all we are doing on HLN right now is covering that damn case. Oh
Please please turn it please. I used to turn in my show. You don't watch any words. God damn it. I haven't been on in a while
Yeah, sorry go ahead
Mm-hmm. Well you got rid of your set, you know, now I can't wear shorts anymore. I know. But anyway, go ahead, Eric. Sorry. Anyway, I eventually met who
I'll call Mary about six months after I broke up with my with the previous psycho. And we
had a great it was it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't nearly at the level as it had been earlier, but then she
moved in about five years ago, and basically I can count on one hand the number of times
we've been in a course.
And it's me.
And I-
And you're saying it's because of the closeness, because she's now living with you?
I think it's because I'm still hung up on this chick who just killed me, almost killed me. I was still sexually aroused by women. I got 20 gigs
of porn on my external hard drive, so that's not the issue. The issue is, I, the
love I have for Mary is, it's, if I determine, I call it protective. I mean, I
feel very protective. Hey, let me feel very protective and very caring of her.
Hold on a second. Hold on a second. How old were you when you first had sex?
Uh, 15.
Was there anything before that?
No.
Nothing?
Well, yeah. An older boy when I was eight years old,
was blessed to be in the bathroom of a gas station that maybe they were living on.
Except for that?
Except for that. Oh, that? Except for that.
Wait a minute. When you were eight? An older boy? Yeah, my dad was in the Navy. We were
stationed in Hawaii, in Anaheim, and there was a service station, a gas station, on the
base. And, you know, back in there, you know, you grew up in the valley in the 70s I mean it was like Berlin in the early 30s you could basically do
whatever you wanted to and you know kids were safe until I met the kid from that
store who was 62 asked me if I wanted to join a club but that was that was the one
issue and yes I do remember it very closely but that's because I've worked out
in recovery but that was the only other sexual experience I've ever had. Wow.
Until I joined the virginity agency. Drew smelled that. Yeah. He felt that experience I've ever had. Wow. Up until I had my virginity.
Drew smelled that.
Yeah.
He felt that.
Of course he did.
Yeah.
Well that's why he asked twice.
Yeah, because here's why.
It's because you have a part of you, the part of you that was injured during that sexual
assault, that still has an issue around being sexual with somebody.
That that's sort of an evil,
bad, in fact in your case I feel like you really feel a dark part of yourself is the
sexual self, and you can't share that with somebody you love.
The good news is, you actually do love Mary.
The bad news is, you have to bring all of you to that relationship, and this part of
you that's back still in the bathroom on the
naval base needs to come back into your life. And you need to have some treatment around
that, my friend, because it's an issue. So as you said, again, you, a thousand sins get
glossed over the way you speak. Twenty-four gigs of porn is where you live with that sexually abused part of
yourself and God knows what kind of crazy shit you've got there I'm sure
it's not cool. Plumpers. Whatever, whatever I'm sure it's wild and gross.
Plumpers huh? And when you say plumpers how plump are we talking about? If you're not at least a size 16, I'm probably not interested.
Interesting.
Wow.
I'm always like a bigger girl, so.
And I don't have anything really crazy on there.
But the point is that's where you and that part of your spells spend your time.
And you have got to integrate all this stuff, and that is therapy, man.
I was hoping Viagra would do it, you know?
No, Viagra might get you kick-started a little bit, but it's pretty clear that there's this
part of yourself that's still walled off and cut off and she deserves to have all of you.
Oh, listen. I know she does. She is phenomenal.
Eric, listen. Just from what I understand and what i hear you you got a little used car
salesman india
he knows that
and i know that i don't know i just want him to know i know it
so i was going to be able
you know you you have a quick answer for everybody has a big
cut back to you cut that
but doesn't
jab back i got a better yet but i'm numb
here's the thing. And when I say use car, I'm talking like Chevy Cavalier, not Lexus and BMW.
Yeah, I'm a guy in a plaid, mustard colored coat.
But it works on 96% of the people that are sort of tuned out. So you got a rap and you're trying to come to grips with that
and you've let the booze go but you haven't quite let the rap go and that's
the next step and that's why you're calling and I appreciate that and and so
go so feel free to continue on that journey which I think you're going to do.
But it's gonna require a little more than just recovery.
You've gone about as far as you can in accessing all this through recovery.
And well done, by the way.
You couldn't go to this next stage without it, but you've got to get in with somebody
that has experienced treating sexual traumas.
Okay.
Speaking of trauma, Amy, 24, what's going on?
Hi.
Hey. trauma. Amy, 24, what's going on? Hi.
Hey. I just want to say, I miss your guys'
love line show so bad. Well here it is, something like it.
Exactly, I'm so excited.
I have an issue with my husband. He kinda has
this obsession of urination during sex.
Who urinates? And I just I don't understand. No, no Amy,
seriously. Yeah. Who's doing the urinating? Yeah. Who's doing the urinating? He wants to.
On to you? Yeah. At what point in the relationship did he bring this thing up?
Salad, first date.
About two years ago.
Oh sorry, breadsticks, first date.
How long were you into the relationship?
Two years ago, us not having been there nor knowing how long you've known each other.
We had been together five years.
So you guys got together when you were...
We went to high school together.
And two years in he said, I'd like to whiz on you.
Yeah.
And when he wants to whiz on you, does that mean like on your head, on your parts?
Like what?
That'd be Ray.
Yeah.
Everywhere, I guess.
Everywhere. He's We're everywhere. I guess everywhere everywhere
Did you ever share Adam with your podcast audience brewing?
Yeah, we've discussed that technique you guys know he's talking about okay. Okay. Okay. You have kids
Yeah, I have two
Okay, so Amy
Here's the problem.
And Drew, you stopped me from,
I'm putting her on hold for a second.
We'll talk amongst ourselves.
The sexual stuff is oftentimes sort of a marker.
It doesn't mean this is who you are,
but it's an expression of sort of who you are.
It's a huh, yeah. I'm what I'm saying is is if you're a nine-year-old boy and you like to torture animals
It doesn't mean you're gonna be a serial killer
No, it doesn't mean if every nine-year-old who lit an ant hole on fire or whatever, you know
But there is but it is what we call a marker. And then there's...
Would you call it a tell?
A tell.
And then there's degrees.
There's, oh, I'm going to spray that cockroach with some whatever and watch it die.
And then there's, I'm going to throw this hamster in a woodchip.
In a strangler chip.
Yeah, yeah.
There's sort of a degree thing.
So this is one of those things that probably means something.
It doesn't mean he's a criminal. It doesn't mean he's a criminal, doesn't mean
he's a bad dad, but it means something. And it means there's, he wants to see you degraded,
I believe. Meaning, I like to pee on women is not something that, it's not because you
like the way it physically physically feel because you don't
feel anything right and by the way not because well everyone does this I don't know any guys
that do this no are you used to right not not unless I was drunk okay that's right
and they were asking for it yeah just by the way they slept with the degrading you know
that way a woman could look at you when she's asleep. He's sort of p out her head
Whatever it's not come covered by the comforter. Yeah, there's that thing the way You know when they fucking sleep the way they ask for it sometimes
And even if you don't know
Like even if you're just breaking into their sorority
You know, you know, I'm talking about of course, you know, I'm talking sure
so
When you think it's a good idea to pee on the mother
of your children, you're kind of degrading her.
And it feels primitive too, like I'm a little boy,
sort of this is some weird impulse I had when I was three.
I wish it was more that, unless I wanna degrade you.
I think, I think there's a degradation here.
Anytime there's ex, you know, you're expelling stuff on somebody, there's that quality.
Right. Now, it's healthy when you're in high school and it's your buddy Ray or Chris, but
it's just not in the bedroom. So the question is, well, let's ask the question.
Does he express this, I'm not talking about urine, I'm just talking about his opinion
of you in other ways out of the bedroom?
Does he treat you right?
Sometimes, most of the time.
But there are ever elements of, you know, you're so stupid or why don't you listen to
me or God, you know what I mean?
Just other ways to kind of put you down, bring you down.
Yeah, we have our fights.
Yeah, but not talking about the fights, I just mean a general sort of walk one step
behind me kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Right, so he has sort of issues
where he has to kind of put women down.
You know what I mean?
But control.
Does he look at a lot of-
Yeah, control is abuse.
Does he look at a lot of porn?
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a, Drew, you don't get this part. I don't think
But there's a degrading
element of
guy sexuality I
Mean, it's a it doesn't go I'm gonna defecate in your ear. It's more of a yeah, you love it
Right, there's a kind of a weird aggression in there. Yeah, there's elements of, you know, right?
Men, let me put it this way, I think on some weird level,
men kind of want to see the penis hurt,
not be painful.
Well, it's a hell of a lot better than, are you in?
Right. I'm done.
Well, it's the opposite of that,
as far as guys' brains work.
Right.
I'm in my refractory period, am I in? Yeah, right Yeah, I mean my refract and we have my refractory period of my hand. No, no yet. It's dark
Yeah, that's that's the point. So there's a element of you know, come on, you know, you love it, baby
You know that's that kind of thing and that kind of thing can go from a little tug of the hair and a little a little
dirty talk to I'm gonna do this and I want
you to fuck my wife while I watch.
You know what I mean?
Degradation.
Right.
There's extremes.
This peeing is on the extreme end of the spectrum.
And I don't think it's a good sign because whether it's just you getting whizzed on in
the shower, I don't
think it just ends there.
Well, and the question, I guess, as it pertains to this behavior, does she go, sorry, I'm
not into this?
Or does she say, okay, on holidays, we'll do it in the shower?
The problem, Amy, is you're 24 and you're not mature enough to really sit down and express this the way it needs to
be expressed.
You need to sit him down and really talk and I don't know if he's mature enough to absorb
whatever you have to put into his fucking sea sponge of a brain.
You know, but you need to you need to sit down with him and say, this doesn't
feel good. I am the mother of your children and you want to urinate on me.
And I don't like it. If she liked it, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Right. And by the way, be glad that I don't like it because that would mean the kids would
have two fucked up parents instead of just one, which is you.
What does he do?
for a living
He is a mechanic. Okay, shacking battle
It's funny that you guys mentioned about um you know here's my wife sucker. I watch
He's also pushing for an open marriage as well. Oh no no no no no no no now you're now you're spinning
You're spiraling out of the sector on a merry-gogo-round that's going too fast and you're flying off.
No.
One kid?
Two kids?
No, I have two.
Two, all right.
Both his?
11 months apart.
Both his?
Yes, both his.
Okay, he is threatening your family.
And the goal here is to maintain the stability
for the kids and you've given up the right
to be screwballs.
He could have been a screwball if he didn't have kids that is that is relinquished
now and it's time to be a dad. And look the problem this honestly is why you
don't get married and have kids before the age of 25 because you're not done
being a screwball. Well men's prefrontal cortex don't come fully back
online till 25 I mean they're still operating from a very primitive part of the brain even.
Amy.
Yes?
Unfortunately, you are going to have to be the brains of this operation.
Unfortunately?
Unfortunately.
Meaning you're going to have to do the thinking for the both of you.
Okay.
And one is, none of this bullshit that he's into, this, know Hey, let me watch you with this person do this if you love me you'd blow Hank over here
Who's the diesel mechanic and let me film it on my iPhone?
No, no, no, no, no, you got kids. You got to be a mom this guy. This guy's a kid
I'm not saying he's a bad human being but I'm saying
24 year old or 25 year old men
are boys.
So on behalf of your children, start being a mom and get this guy in check or call the
day with him.
But don't...
Is there a way to get around this and get him to not be into this kind of stuff or should
I just cut my losses and get out now? Oh no. Well listen I don't know the
totality of this dude like I don't know if he's the world's greatest dad I don't
know if if he's you know I don't know what he what he is outside of this
environment. I would say if there's something in him and
there's something between you to salvage, salvage it. If this guy's a lost cause, then
cut bait.
Yeah, but he tried to, for your kids to preserve this family, get some couples therapy from
my guys.
Also, and by the way, a lot of that will be up to him. Like you say, look.
We did try couples therapy at one point.
What happened?
He got mad and quit because the therapist told him that he was a sex addict.
Oh.
Well, if that's true, he needs to get treatment for that.
It's going to be difficult.
Did you bring up the urination thing in front of the...
That wasn't happening at that time.
Uh-huh.
Oh, so we stepped his game up. Is he cheating? He has
before, yeah. Yeah, this guy's not what you call a keeper. Unfortunately, you had
kids with him and you got married to him. That's a mistake. Tough and painful.
Let's get him back into treatment, man. Get him back into therapy. I mean, sex
addiction. Well, I wouldn't call him a sex addict. How do you get him back into treatment man get him back into therapy I I mean sex addiction well I wouldn't call him a sex addict
get him back into there well I'm leaving her we do I don't know Amy look here's
the deal there's here's the good news the good news is if you leave this guy
you're not it's like me leaving a fucking shopping cart with a bad wheel a block from my house. Am I gonna miss it?
Well, do you need it do you know what I mean, I mean it sounds to me like you know what's going on
Yeah, it's tough and the kids the kids are tough and this is why you can't
Start crapping out the kids this early.
And by the way, think about who you're having the kids with.
I know.
All right, quick break.
Coming up, let's see.
Hey, I want to do something.
One of the most fun things we've done, you and I, was examining songs from the 70s.
Maybe for the break, think about songs that are so outrageous.
Why don't you think of a song?
I'm not so good.
You're not so good at what?
You know what?
I never listened to the lyrics back then.
That's why I didn't ever pay attention.
I never thought about what the lyrics were.
I'd have to sort of think through songs
or see lyrics of songs because I don't know them.
But people complain about rap songs and hip hop and stuff
today, and I'm not sure that it was any better
back then. In fact I think it was a little worse in terms of the kind of
explicit encouragement of underage sex. Drew, now I'm supposed to forget the song.
No, no, if we can, we can. I get it. Now listen, you would make the world's worst 70s folk singer
because you'd go, you know, when I was just a little boy, my grandpappy used
to sit me down on his lap.
One day during a warm August night, he was sipping on what he called cider.
He sat me down and well, he told me this.
You guys got anything nothing you don't remember what
he told me you know it goes a little something like what what would you like
it was nothing okay okay well that's all I got I guess enjoy the concession
standby t-shirt on the way out
Drew you set the shit up now. You got to come up with a song. I gotta go online
Got time for that. No, I've got a fuck. I don't I'm telling I don't know the lyrics You seem to listen to the lyrics of all these and I just ask all right all right. We'll see if we can find it anyway
We'll get your calls. We'll get we'll find a 70, so we'll do that after this. Hey, it's Adam Carolla from the Adam Carolla Show.
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Well, dr. Drew way back in the day when we were doing love line
One of the reasons I'm no longer part of the program is I think I
did about 20 minutes on just dropped in to see what condition my condition was
in yes mm-hmm remember that song yes Kenny Rogers I don't remember the lyrics
I can't remember the fifth the fifth can't remember the fifth and the fifth edition
Was that hey by the way before you figure out you know the first edition? Thank you. Thank you for keeping all the snacks and shit all around here. They were thank you for that
Thanks me for that
There's a lot of stuff you attend to here. I started thinking we were thanks Adam for that
People don't thank me for that much but it's it's normally
because I I I I frown upon it. People thanking you? Yeah. You don't like to be?
Well I don't I don't I look no one ever says good show either. You'd rather just
stay bitter and angry. It's better feels better. I
Don't know. I don't know how it works. Oh, listen. Here's all I know I showed up today and
we had a guy drop off of
35 ribs and when I checked last night
There were 14 16 of them left or so.
And then I walked in today and I said, I'm going to heat me up some ribs.
And I opened the fridge and they're all gone.
And I said to my assistant, Matt, what happened to all those ribs?
And he said, we ate them, boss.
All right.
Thanks.
And then actually, the only thing that was left is the greens.
Everyone had eaten.
You want to know how people work brisket first ribs second
Potato salad third and there's still two big heaping things of just collard greens
Right chaos they work and people will drink the barbecue sauce before they get into anything that's healthy for them
I just said I just had some dried apples, they were really good,
and some smoked almonds.
You know, there's always a diet coke.
Adam keeps this thing stocked.
I bet no one ever says thanks for that.
I betcha.
I know you guys look after it, thank you, Chris.
But it's the boss that somebody's gotta go,
hey, by the way, thanks for that.
I don't, you know, the thing that's weird about me
is people do say thank you on occasion.
But I realize that I think the same way that people never say great show or good one or
any of that kind of stuff, I think I quietly dissuade people from that.
I don't know.
Well, you just said you have trouble accepting it when someone says it gives you a. Yeah, but I don't yell at them or anything. No, no,
I just tried to give you a compliment and you're deflecting it all over the place.
Well thank you. Well it's not really a compliment. Well I mean you're asking me. No, you're thanking
me. Thank you. Okay. But you want to know if anyone thanks me. Well if I decide if anybody
else did. For the diet sodas, the coffees, and the snacks. Not that I'm aware of. Okay,
well thank you. I think that's accurate. Yes?
Now Chris says thank you. He ate all my fucking ribs.
My mouth's always full.
His mouth's always full, I can't thank him.
Yeah, I don't-
Oh man, I think I just scared these guys.
These guys are scared, so scared shitless.
Now they're like, now they're gonna say thank you
to the guy who's gonna be expecting thank you, Christ.
No, I don't, for me, it's all about who left the light on in the compressor room. It's
not about how come I'm not being thanked for these chips. And then the rare occasion...
Kind of in the same spot though, right?
In terms of what?
In terms of consciousness of the people around you. Like paying attention to things that
are important to you is similar to thanking you for things
that you attend to that benefits them.
I don't, yes.
I tuned out in the middle of that, but yes.
I don't look at me providing soda and chips and water and coffee as above and beyond,
but I also look at them as shutting the light in the compressor room as not above and beyond
for them.
All right, but same zone. Same zone.
Same zone. That's the way I approach things. All right, so if you want to support us,
you can click through the Amazon link on the Adam and Drew page at adamcrawler.com.
Show us a little love. Yeah, maybe we can hear little Kenny Rogers here. I know you like this one, Drew.
I used to do 20 minutes on this.
This and Blood, Sweat and Tears.
We would just sing to that.
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, what condition, my condition was in.
Wanna know why we did drugs?
I woke up this morning with the sundown shining in
The sundown shining in
I found my mind in a brown paper bag
But then
I tripped on a cloud and fell to eight miles high
I took my mind out on a cloud and fell to eight miles high I flipped on a cloud, something to celebrate
On a jagged sky
I just dropped in
To see what condition my condition was in
Hell yeah, oh yeah, what condition my condition was in
I pushed my soul in a deep dark hole Really? Yeah. He sounds 11 here. He still had a full beard and it was gray.
I pushed my soul in a deep dark hole and then I followed it in.
Okay, also good. That's a good sign. I watched myself crawling out as I was crawling in here.
Hold on, can I just say this? This is Jefferson Aircraft's fault, Drew. Because they wrote
White Rabbit and everyone just went, every manager, like every manager sat their band
down and went, we need a freaky drug song because everyone is getting high out of their mind.
Okay?
Beatles did a little bit of this too, right?
Everybody. It was like everyone is getting high and they need shit to listen to when they're high and
they don't want to listen to, she loves you, yeah, yeah.
That's no good when you're high.
They want to hear a song about being high when they're high.
Because being high is cool and therefore even if you're not high, you can be cool by listening
to songs about being high.
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
This is 68, then White Rabbit is what? Must be 68, 69.
Yeah. There's a zillion. Found my mind in a brown paper bag. That's awesome. That's awesome.
Yeah. And by the way, Kenny Rogers wasn't that guy, as you all know. Right. He's the, you know,
Ruby don't take your love to town guy. He's the gambler guy
He just wrote a song cuz he's trying to fucking sell some records. Yeah, that's the way it works
So that's why this song is so overt because oh yeah see white rabbit is 67. Yeah, just a 68 perfect nice Big ending there too.
Take over.
Every song had this part in 1962.
Oh yeah, the sizzle at the end.
Yeah, the big sizzle at the end.
With the organ.
Yeah.
Heavy, man. Mind blown. What's this? organ Ted Newgen yeah heavy man mind blown with this my mind's completely
blown this is Ted Newgen oh you're not a guy's gone another direction who's
further away from the truck first off you talked to Ted Newgens like he's like
I've never ingested alcohol in my life never never taken a drug, I get high off the fucking scent of Elb's blood.
This is 68, Journey to the Scent of Your Mind.
You see, I'm telling you, White Rabbit and probably The Beatles, but I don't know when
The Beatles, if that was-
This is Yellow Submarine.
Sergeant Tapper's 67.
Yellow Submarine is before that.
So The Beatles and White Rabbit and everything got everyone going and someone said, look,
you want to sell fucking records?
It was like...
It was a white version of rap.
Which is like, I'm from Encino.
No you're not, you're from Compton. Talk about smackin' bitches and fuck the LAPD.
Do you wanna sell some records?
So you have a bunch of black guys who grew up
in middle class environments
talk about being from the hood.
Same thing.
Same thing, you've got Ted Nugent,
you've got Kenny Rogers, you're straight guys.
It goes under, you gotta be cool, man.
You gotta be cool.
Well, you wanna move product.
Is this Ted Nugent? Yeah. straight guys it goes under you gotta be cool man you'll be cool well you want to move product yeah take a journey the center mind man I just imagined these guys when they were 19 like this and then like they're kind of still the same
guy yeah I mean it kind of a weird weird way. You just didn't see it.
This song has one of those like...
A land unknown to man.
We were such colossal blow hearts and...
We might not come back.
Fantasy is fact and you might not come back.
Mind blown. Here's the guys, the guys I felt sorry for for the most were not not a 19 year
old Ted Nugent. 51 year old manager Murray Edelstein who had to put the
dashiki on and like walk around. Hey Katz. Learned to play the sitar. My mind is blown by what you've been laying down.
I mean, oh, yeah, no.
Drugs?
I'm already full up with a little man of Shevitz would be
fine.
Yeah, because I'm already full of drugs.
Because I've been riding a pony, dragon.
Anyway, you know fall they
yet with the long hair like combed over
puts a big uh...
put put the big astrological sign medallion on his word i was just like
and mcmurray you're right on the other side of the show here's earlier now he's
walking around
those guys should have a shit kicked out of fact that they really are
i ever thought about it they're kind of responsible for all this right he's just kids acting out yeah
these are kids acting out these guys are 50 year old Jewish businessmen who
there's my dad oh hey hey who wants to give me seven?
All right, now here's your return or change?
Is it, god damn it, he's checking some little book of vernaculars for like hip, you know,
he's hanging out.
Hey, I just got my, are you digging the new threads threads I just got some new threads I'm
tripping pretty hard on I got a tab of Piety peyote peyote anyway you digging
the new threads dig man you dig these. I was hanging out with the Ruby hanging out with some of the guys from the
Grateful headband over there. Hmm. Who is this man?
You know the losing blues image, you know, I know them I know why you know them they played your prom
I hired him
So Listen you shit you ladies were at like I hired him! So uh...
Listen you...
You ladies...
Okay, you want to puff on a marijuana cigarette with me?
I'm done.
Oh yeah, yeah, no, I know I know all the woodstock bands. There was uh
Country John and his fish
What's that?
Country Joe. Yeah, that's what I said
Who's down?
It wants to wants to chase the pony
with the herb
Are you cool? All right, everyone cool?
Yeah
My old lady
Yeah, my old lady, she's down with my new threads.
Those guys were well portrayed and almost famous.
There were several guys like that in that film
that really were well, that's a lot of what was going on.
Kenny Rogers and Ted Nugent were 17 and whatever,
but you know there's a whole lot of Jewish dudes
in their 40s and 50s that went like,
oh shit, I gotta ditch this brown suit and put this fucking to Sheikah on and like get down with the scene
But I think they were like they were like they were so fucking narcissistic these older guys that they really thought that they were
Involved with it. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. They thought that they were like, hey, this is the new way man
This is a we're gonna show the world
We're gonna show the man what
these young kids really know the answer to everything i just want to see a picture of
these guys from the early 60s with the pomade in their hair and wearing the suit and the brown
shoes and everything to the dashiki you know you could have been the medallion the guy with the
gray hair from mad men he could could have turned into one of these guys. Yeah man. We had the right threats.
Yeah.
Alright, let's see. Bad relationship.
Woo.
Who's asking me a single?
Let's talk to Joe. Joe, you're 46. What's going on?
Hey, what's up man?
Hey man.
Hey, I just wanted to get some information on treatment options, like good treatment
options for male survivors, child sexual abuse, and problems with addiction.
Well, the first order of business is treating the addiction. You don't get anywhere near the trauma issues for at least 6 to 12 months.
So don't even...
I actually confronted these people.
Do not get involved with the trauma treatment until you've been sober, active in the program
for at least 6 to 12 months.
Yeah.
Okay. Confronting perpetrators? Terrible
idea. Terrible idea. Well, rarely, rarely helpful. It's possibly dangerous and never
satisfying. Rarely. And if you do it, you do it way down in treatment with the help
of a professional for a specific reason. Yeah, I actually didn't confront them
without the help of somebody, you know,
like a professor from Stanford.
A professor?
Yeah, it was somebody I sent a couple emails to
and they actually arranged the meeting.
They did?
The person you sent the emails to?
Yeah, yeah, you know, I talked to this person about it
They were a survivor themselves. Oh, well, yeah, that's how it works. Just typically the case
All right, where they bet it was anyways, it was a bad idea always it didn't go well. Yeah, of course
Well, why didn't it go? I know why even if it goes great. It will do very little if nothing
But how your trauma stuff. By the way, I feel so, you know, I feel sorry for most
in this equation, not the professor, not him,
not the abuser, the waitress at the restaurant they met at.
A lot of fucking tears, a lot of crying.
Actually, it was at somebody's house.
Oh, okay, oh boy, oh boy.
But let me ask you something. Yeah. If the person said to you,
I'm so sorry for what I've done to you, understand that this is a cycle of abuse and that I was
abused as well. And if there's any BS, that'd be BS. So you're not. So no matter how was
this ever going to work? So no matter what he says. Well, so how is this ever gonna work then? So no matter what he says. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
Right.
He'd have to bring an ice cream cake
in order to smooth this one over.
I mean, so if that's BS, then what's ever gonna work?
Yeah, don't have a fantasy, Joe,
that somehow by revivifying this
or setting the record straight,
no, it affects your brain growth and development
and you literally have to rewire these areas
of the brain through careful work in trauma therapy.
You need to go to the center of your mind, man.
Blow it.
And it is after you've been, and sometimes you won't even need this, the sobriety, the
fourth and fifth step in some of the spiritual work is sufficient to work some of this through
for some people and then others have to go do more specific work in the trauma area. You know, addiction is,
bad addiction is caused by the genetics with abuse. That's the combo these days that creates
bad addiction. If somebody has bad enough addiction, they need to see me. There's a
guarantee they have both. Sorry, Joe. No, I deal with this all the time. Sobriety first,
get treatment, comprehensive. Don't back down, just make that the focus
of your life for the next six months.
I won't say you'll be fine, you'll be you, but in a weird way...
Good job, I'll be okay.
No, but in a weird way, you might discover more than the average person discovers on
the average journey.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, I just wanted to say, the 10 plus years you guys have been offline,
the country's gone to hell.
Coincidence?
I don't think so.
Thank you, Joe.
Have we been off 10 years together?
Nah.
How long have we been alive?
No, no, it's been, Matt's six, seven?
Oh, maybe he means since TV.
It's been 10 plus since that, right?
Oh yeah, but I don't think
Loveline the TV radio show. I don't know what year I stopped doing that Oh five or six five. Oh five
Guys, that's almost a year ago
Hey Kevin
Yeah, Jesus eight years ago. What's going on seriously? That's it baby. What's going on guys? Love your show
Thanks for taking my call 21 years of age. What's the question?
21 years I always get this little why are you still single or how are you still single?
Lying from all the ladies and I keep asking myself the same damn thing
the ladies and I keep asking myself the same damn thing. Why am I single?
Why am I single?
Catch your blessing.
I think I lose.
You mean not married or not in a relationship?
Oh, relationship.
So you want a relationship.
No, I'm not.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
I just sometimes I find myself losing interest very easily. Yeah
Listen Kevin look you're 21 your brains not formed. There's not much I can tell you right now, but I can tell you this
Everything is temporary until you have a kid and then you can't unring that bell. So you know pretty much
getting kids, having kids, getting AIDS, things like that. Most everything else
you can make a nice recovery from in life. Bad relationships, ups and downs,
things like that, you know what I'm saying? So, seeing how you're gonna screw
up a bunch of relationships, have some fun, have your heart broke, break a few hearts, and everyone's
going to spend their early 20s doing that, what you need to do is walk away with nothing
on your permanent record. Meaning, everybody is going to have a childhood and an adolescence and a young adulthood
where there's some bruises and some scratches and maybe in a few things that
need stitches but brain but trauma head trauma and and and brain damage and
permanent paralysis and all that that's what you want to avoid so everyone's
going to have a childhood of doing a back flip
off a diving board, but hitting the shallow end
and ending up in a wheelchair, well you ain't gonna get
out of that wheelchair on your 25th birthday.
And you ain't getting rid of that kid on your 25th birthday
when you knock up someone at 19 or 22.
So your job, whether it's ending up in a wheelchair
or ending up with a couple of kids in a shitty
relationship is to take your bumps and bruises, have your fun, but don't be confined to a
wheelchair or have the kids.
Don't have the stuff that's going on your permanent record.
Yeah, I agree.
And being single, I mean, why are you worried about being single at 21?
He's bragging.
And you don't want a relationship.
So cool.
All right. Travis, 24? Yeah.
What's up? What's happening? Drew, as a doctor who coughs, I notice you don't cover your mouth.
I find that interesting. I turn away. Provocative. Challenging in many ways. You do turn away, but the hand does not go up to the mouth. Is there something? No, I'm asking as someone who wants to know
and make fun of you.
A couple things.
A couple things.
And attack you.
One is I'm nowhere near contagious at this point in time. So no matter what, it's not
going to be contagious. Number one. Number two, here's how I am in a spread. Hey, Adam.
Hey, listen.
Oh, okay. No, it makes sense. You cough in your hand and then we do our thing where we
shake hands at the end of every show.
And kiss. So, or I touch your cup or whatever, the keyboard here, but the other...
I didn't know I'm wearing a cup.
What I should do is cough my elbow.
Do the elbow.
Shoe sleeve. I like that.
I'm not contagious though.
Okay. Anyway, Travis, go ahead.
I got two older brothers and one of them's in kind of a bad relationship where nobody in the family likes his wife
Much. Mm-hmm. I would describe her as a bitch
Just bluntly and then the other brother he's engaged but
Pretty much weekly he thinks about ending that
And I'm wondering from my perspective
dr b supportive and how mom must have been a joint
uh...
new
uh... how do you support it was at the first a different for each of the first
brother is starting a life with the woman you call a bitch he loves her
that's important to him. He lives with the bitch.
Be supportive of that and realize that for whatever reason, whatever it is about your
mom or his relationships or whatever, this is what he's into and be accepting of that
and be happy for him that he's happy with somebody he really is into and likes.
But ultimately, Travis, you got to worry about Travis.
For sure.
I don't mean yourself, I mean this other dude named Travis.
Yeah.
I'll introduce you to him later on.
But look, no way are you gonna make decisions for your brothers and their relationships.
No, nor should you.
Nor should you, and they're big boys and they can figure this out.
And don't get me wrong, these women are nuts and I'm sure it'll be a disaster.
You're not gonna be able to do much. Or it won't be. You just won't like them, don't are nuts, and I'm sure it'll be a disaster You're not gonna be able to do much
Or it won't be you just won't like them don't like them and they like them. That's fine
That's what they're big boys. They're making a life either way
Travis your job is find a good relationship for Travis be a good father to those kids and
Provide a steady, you know provide for them and have a nice steady example of a father figure when
the time is right and the time is probably not right now. So those in worrying, I worry
about those who worry about others and their relationships a little too much.
Yeah. And the one that leaves, the other one leaves the fiancee, okay, be supportive, whatever,
don't get into it.
If you get in the middle of stuff, you're going to be the problem.
Speaking of problems, we've been talking about this throughout these podcasts as sort of
a theme on and off again, but the thing where dudes kind of turn into chicks emotionally,
like there's the man carrying the purse and all that good stuff. But I'm
talking about the part where guys gossiping, guys doing the things that men formally didn't
do. You know in the past, that was kind of, that was your thing. And not my thing. You
know what I mean? When it came to, I don't think she's right for him or he's right for
her, let's have this discussion. We're all going down
this crazy fucking rabbit hole where everybody is talking and like I'll put it to you this way.
Just through social media, a hundred years ago if Twitter did exist, adult men, 45 year old guys would not be talking and sniping and saying, you know, who looked
like shit at the Golden Globes.
No.
It just wouldn't, it'd be way beneath them.
It just wouldn't, it wouldn't dignify any of it.
It wouldn't, it would have no interest in it because it didn't have to do with acquiring
land.
Finding soil.
Yes, really, the only thing I would like, I only want to acquire land.
I'm not interested in making...
I think about gossiping on relationships.
You know, when Abraham Lincoln's father's wife died, when Sarah Lincoln died, I think
it was Sarah's the first one, died, he went to town and got another wife.
There was no talk about who was he dating now.
It's like, no, they gotta get their shit together
and go work the soil.
That's right.
And then raise those kids.
Tilt that soil, baby.
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Yeah, it's good, it's interesting.
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I should say Adam and Drew page at adamcarolla.com.
So until next time, this is Adam Carolla for Dr. Drew, Chris Maxpada,
Mike Lynch and Gary Half-Dard saying, Mahalo!