The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Rigorous Honesty (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: February 18, 2025

Adam and Drew open the show discussing the controversial Los Angeles police and firefighter's retirement program DROP. Drew also revisits a comment he made in a previous episode that's pertinent to the somewhat political conversation. Later Adam and Drew take listener calls on an inability to maintain weight, fair custody sharing and the god component of most 12 step programs.

This is Corolla Digital. Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to the adam and doctor drew show uh... yes great dr drew board certified physician xmas specialist

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I always said, it seems to me if dogs can smell anything. It started with venereal stuff. But if everything, everything in life to a dog, everything has a smell. If you think about it. Your master has a smell, the other dog has a smell. My dog will just sit in front of the hill Feel the wind coming up the hill just yeah. Oh, yeah, my what's going on down there some coyotes fucking like what is going on and Since everything in your body. I mean

Everything has a scent Earwax has a scent. Yeah You pop a zit. There's a scent to that, there's a scent to everything. Well, it always struck me that if you breathe through a tube, whatever came out of your lungs, cancer would have a scent. Well, if it communicated with the airways, and then you have to ask yourself how much of volume of tumor before that scent emerges through the mouth. I don't know the answer to those things. But I always thought we used to talk about this long ago, you and I, and you pointed

out very astutely if the canine olfactory system, the sense of smell is 10,000 times that of the human, why do they bury the schnaz right in the asshole first thing? Right. Ten thousand times more powerful. Well it's an- You think they picked that one up at a distance. It's an interesting thing that dog shit smells bad enough at ten feet with our super inefficient nostrils.

Right. Ten thousand times more powerful. Well we have, then we then figured out that when it's 10,000 times more powerful that shit at a certain point starts to smell like surf and turf to them. Lilacs. Or lilacs or fresh cut pine, meaning it goes past itself. It was kind of interesting if you take a look, if you ever watch the movie defending your life Albert Brooks is sitting there with ripped horn and He's talking about ripped horn is saying I use 70% of the capacity of my brain, you know on planet Earth you use, you know

Four to six percent of your brain up here on planet Earth, you use, you know, four to six percent of your brain. Up here, we use in between 50 percent and 90 percent of our brain. So we're on a different, you know, different capacity. And so there's scenes in the movie where it's like, oh, she's a good lawyer. She uses 86 percent of her brain. Like, okay, and we're in Albert Brooks is using five percent of his brain, right? But at a certain point, Riptorn is eating his lunch in front. Albert Brooks is eating like a turkey sandwich. Riptorn is eating like some gray gruel. And he says, Albert Brooks says, what are you eating? What are you eating?

And he said, I don't. It wouldn't taste good to you. And he said, I want to taste. I'm curious. And he said, it's take I'm curious, you know, and he said Yeah, it's not not not for you, you know, and he said let me have any tasted it was like oh, oh, it's horrible He's like yeah, it tastes. It's not for your brain, right? You don't taste what you're not tasting what I'm tasting with my 85% brain, right? And I think you think something bad would get worse at 85% but it goes past

and becomes better. I think that's what goes on with dogs. Either way, the hospital gown thing, if you take a look at in 50 years, we'll all be chicks. It's a whole bunch of complaints about ketchup packets and hospital gowns and everything else and they fixed a lot of this stuff like while the book was the ketchup packets were being changed as the book was being printed like it didn't take two years that was done in the first year quite easily and hospital gowns to me are like why is everyone's ass hanging out of this stuff and it's literally impossible and also show me something else

impossible and also show me something else that was invented during the Civil War and that has no room for improvement and I'm gonna show you something that has plenty of room for improvement and we've just been lazy right about is there anything that was around around the world I don't know yeah since they're around the Civil War and don't haven't been touched because to me that's the one thing that hasn't been touched since the Civil War and it's completely unchanged and anyway now your ass doesn't have to be swinging in the breeze yeah so dig I gave a lecture at the USC Medical School this week right when they gave a lecture about addiction things it's by the always, I'd rather talk to a group of like faculty or

least residents, because I mean, I'm, you know, it's interesting trying to go back and give them the basic science and do it in a scholarly way, as opposed to give a bunch of residents a bunch of practical insight that I have from 20 years of experience. Mm-hmm. So it's stressful to me. It's very intense. It's stressful because they could call you on something. Call me out or I may not have delivered enough of a scientifically, scholarly kind of a thing that they needed. I find it really stressful. I like to do it, but I find it very intense. And even as it was, I give a very sort of clinically oriented kind of lecture because I thought that's what it was my one opportunity to do that with this group.

And I wanted to get it because there's so much shit that my one opportunity to do that with this group and I wanted to get it. Because there's so much shit that goes on in terms of the approach to addicts that's so messed up. Anyway, the bottom line here, those reason I bring this up is so they got kicked out of their lecture hall because the mayor's having a debate or something in there or something or press conference, because we're mayoral campaigns here in Los Angeles. Sure. And they move back to the lecture hall that I was in when I was in medical school same same

lecture hall I sat in for a couple years, which I thought it's awesome. I'm sitting here it's seats about 120. And this is I love more intimate. I love it's where I spent you know, two years without taking a breath. And I sat with the guy that's the head of the department before and he goes, because yeah, yeah, well, we got 190 kids and everything's podcast. And maybe 80 might show up. Everything's podcast.

They don't even, or it's video cast. They don't come to school for med school. Wow. It's up to them. They have to come for the anatomy lab and the micro labs and stuff like that and any of the sort of physical demonstrations. But for the lectures, I'll just stay home. I'll watch it later. Well, let me ask you this. It's crazy, right?

Drew, I mean, think about this with school. We talk about this, but I think about it. Before you say it, I'm going to say it now. Now, the next seven years, you can't learn surgery at a distance. Sure. Six, seven years in the, you can't know our medicine. You have to get in the wards. You can't know our medicine.

You have to get in the wards and see patients. And I said, how does that work? They start getting up at five in the morning, coming up at 10 at night. They go from sleeping in until noon and watching these things in the evening, getting on the ward every seven days a week at five in the morning. How does that work for them? Well, they kind of adjust. They figure it out.

Like, oof. Anyway, you wonder with this. Well, you know, here's how gyms work. Gyms, gym membership. They sell as many memberships as they can possibly sell and then hope you never show up at their gym. And what you want if you're selling gym memberships is you have a gym that has a capacity of 200 people, you want to sell 200,000 memberships and hope no one ever shows up.

And meanwhile, we'll just debit their account every single month. And then I started thinking about college. And I know everything out of college is noble, but not so fast. Because you're paying 60 grand a kid and someone, people like describe me, oh no, we start our summer break beginning of May. I know Doug says that in two weeks. No, he's out next week. Really?

He gets out next week. They're like beginning of May, and I'll go like, so you go back in July or something? No, no, no, no, we don't go back to the middle of September or something. I'll go like, my first impulse is cool. And then they go, yeah of September or something. I'll go like, and my first impulse is cool. And then they go, yeah, it's awesome. We've got like a five month summer.

And then I go, wait a minute, the people that are sort of deciding, hey, guess now you have this great audience because it's really like. It's really like the it's sort of, you brought up the mayor. It's like if the mayor's entire constituency just received welfare, and then we went, we're going to vote on whether we should raise it or lower it. Well, you're going to be a hero. Yeah. You're going out of this, you're coming, you're coming out of this press conference like fucking Vince Lombardi on the shoulders of these people because you go, fuck raise it, double it is what I say and then a huge roar, hats would fly up into the air.

Huzzah. Huzzah. They would yell and then you'd be the most popular guy in town except for, probably wouldn't be that good for the students or for the people that were just getting more money. But I realize this tacit agreement between the students, at least, and the school, which is, oh, no, it's still going to be $60,000. We're not going to go pro-rated or anything.

Well, they took a long Easter vacation, so here's $8,000 back, or anything like that. We'll have these super long breaks all throughout the school. And that'll be just a little less of our job that we have to do but you're still going it's still full freight is what you'll be paying on the kids because it seems to me it's sort of I have this theory that ply you know two by fours used to be two by four and now

they're one and a half by three and a half and half inch plywood used to be a half inch and then it went to seven sixteenths and pretty soon it's going to be a quarter inch plywood have to come back with another half inch. It'll be you know nine thirty seconds or something. It's the idea is it never gets bigger. Yeah it gets thinner but the name gets bigger. It gets thinner, but the name never changes. It's college, it's half inch ply, it's two by fours. Two by fours remained. It's just 25% of them left. And if you think about it, if you're milling, well,

you get an extra two by four for every three or four two by fours that come off the line that's just to add up pretty quick of course you you carve out an extra Martin Luther King day Presidents Day Arbor Day World Day World Peace Day World Awareness Day environmental day Indigenous people of the world day and then start taking summer and extended a week and bring it back, let them out a week earlier. Eventually, you got a lot less work to do around there. Yeah. I think that's what's going on.

I'd be curious what the average stay, I mean... Duration of college? Days when you went to college versus uh versus by the way someone who went at the turn of the century days attended yeah versus days attended now I mean the idea that you're saying to me that your son's out next week for summer don't even feel it's cold outside it's ruin Los Angeles and it's it's it's snowing you know what I'm saying? Weird right? The snow's haven't melted yet. That's for sure. I'd like to find that

you can check that data out and as far as the mayoral stuff goes There's we can look forward to a whole bunch of the same What was that thing we're talking about the other night with the the dropout or the kickback or whatever that stupid thing with the firemen and the cops and all that because I gotta let Drew in on that the drop program. If you if you just want to know what we're what we're in for in this city you can you will find I think we had a little cut-up version of that, we'll probably find it, I'll show it to you, but basically cops quit on a Friday, start collecting their pension, and then get rehired on a Monday, and then basically it's like this, I misstate this a a lot they quit on a Friday they quit they don't retire they were touched are they retire on a on a Friday their pension goes into a separate fund okay so starts

collecting so start getting paid out into a fund okay yeah then they get rehired on a Monday and then when they do go to collect their pension it's oftentimes in a check of a million dollars. What? Or 800, yes, that's what this city does. sitcoms like Frasier and rewatch cult classics like higher learning whether you're in the mood to solve a little crime before bedtime with NCIS or tracker or curl up with a surefire hit like Forrest Gump Pluto TV has thousands of movies and shows all for free Pluto TV stream now pay never

With cops and firemen and what let's go become cops and we're handing out go do it checks for hundreds of thousands of dollars now we were on the wrong path here I know other cities have done it and dropped it because it didn't work it was an incentive to keep cops but now we have enough cops and everyone wants to be a cop there are three mayoral candidates in this city. One of them, the guy I voted for, Kevin James, said, no, no, no, no, no, we'll not be doing any more of that. That's ripping off the taxpayers. The other two, who are endorsed by the unions, endorsed by the unions, police and firefighters, the heroes. Guess who's not against it?

And here you can see, I'll just show you the mayoral candidates, this is from a few months ago. Angering police and fire unions while in campaign mode is the last thing most of these candidates want to do, especially Wendy Gruhl, who won endorsements by the police and fire unions. I've supported DROP. It is an effective way to keep some of our best officers and firefighters in the city of Los Angeles.

You don't see DROP as a double dip? I don't see DROP as a double dip. They're earning money at the same time they're collecting their pension. Well, it's been, again, a program that has been effective to keep our officers clear and keep them working in the city of Los Angeles. Why would you leave? Mayoral candidate Eric Garcetti also likes drop. He likes it too. Study after study, it showed that that is a money saver, plus it gets the most valuable

people to stay on the job for a few more years. Study after study, that's true. In fact, as we've learned, there is no study showing drop is a money saver because nobody has bothered to study it. But that's something candidate Jan Perry promises to do, even though she didn't do it, as a council member. As mayor, I will immediately move forward along with the CAO to do a very straightforward analysis of the DROP program.

The mayoral candidates running on their political outsider status also weighed in. And I think that DROP is just one minor program. It's, whether it exists or not, doesn't impact our pension fund liabilities that much at all. I think that it is, it's a program that has to be done away with currently because of the, just the obligations that we face. Why'd you get Kevin in here?

We did. Oh, there you go. He didn't win because he was not in the pockets of the police union and the fire union. Does it make me an asshole that I have mixed feelings about it? Because I think police and fire should be well paid, and I think there should be lots of incentives to keep them in the program.

I would like to see those studies. Well, they'll play the rest of the. I would like to see the study. I'll play the rest of the I'll show you the rest of the clip I mean if Gary finds it will be up for you. I just want to see those studies that's what I want. There's no studies. I want them to do the studies. The study is other cities tried it and have dropped it because it's ripping off the taxpayers.

The studies is we needed we wanted I don't know 20,000 cops or some number. I also want to know if it impacts their liabilities. Here's what happened. After the Rampart scandal, this is after the scandal of bad cops, this is them being bad, a lot of the cops didn't want to sign up anymore because they're working with a corrupt system that they created. So they put this incentive in to keep cops. I get it.

I get it. Now they wanted to get to a goal of like 20,000 cops. They got to that goal or 2,000 or whatever it was. You can't take things away from people. That's the hardest thing in the world to do. That's a number. Oh yes you can. They got to that goal and now there's basically a waiting line for people wanting to get in.

Other cities have done this and then dropped it when they've analyzed it and realized just how much money they're wasting and how broke the city is. But Garcetti says in study after study, although no study's ever been done, and when they ask for a study to be done, they never would do the study. And then when they did agree to do the study, the study wasn't gonna be done by an independent group, it was gonna be done by a group that the union picked. Okay.

All right. Okay. So, stay the course, because that's what we're doing. That's what we've decided. We're getting two people from the city council to stay the course. Now, of course things are gonna get better

via retardo's out of here. I mean, he's an imbecile. I mean, he's, Drew, I don't know if you're, you know, brave enough or honest enough to speak openly about that man, but he has a personality disorder in my opinion. There's something wrong with his personality. But first and foremost, I mean,

I'm sure Winston Churchill had a personality disorder, but he wasn't an idiot. Well, I always thought it was weird that I just have... I look at how people conduct their lives. It means a lot to me. Yeah. And talked a lot about LA Unified. Sent his kid to private school in Pasadena. What? Yeah, shocking. A lot about marriages and stability of the family. I'm not sure that marriage worked out so great. Well, if she had just turned a blind eye to him banging a Telemundo reporter, everything could have worked out, Drew. That stuff, that goes a long way for me. Okay. That stuff. But Super Razor Sharp? I don't know. I've never heard him speak. If you heard him speak. I'm not. He

sounds like he's grasping for words constantly. You know when you hear Alec Baldwin speak, you either agree or don't agree but you go that guy's a command of language. Yeah. You hear Tony Velar talk. He doesn't. He acts like he's having. That name changing bothers me too. That's a problem. Oh but he was a very having bothers me to that's all but he was a key was a kid he was out you know he's done college we all know when you were in your early twenties he changed your name course everybody everyone does a bad science but listen right somebody contacted me through you

gary uh... about something i said in the podcast and i'm gonna revisit here very quickly uh... i quote let me just really quickly visit the pertinent sort of political stuff to talk about here something I said on the podcast that I'm going to revisit here very quickly. I quote, I'm going to just really quickly revisit because it pertinent to sort of the political stuff we're talking about here. I was quoting on democracy in America, a guy named Alexis de Tocqueville who came to America in the 1820s to study the penitentiary system, which was, believe it or not, model for the world at the time, a model. Penitence being the

key word in the penitentiary system. They got out, they rehabilitated people. Anyway, he actually, that was a ruse. He came here actually to study what, how democracy works and stuff. He felt like equality and democracy was the way the world was going to go. He predicted, interestingly, that the two superpowers, this is back when, you know, France ruled the world, basically. Two superpowers by the 20th century would be United States and Russia. He predicted that. Interesting. Weird. But he said the biggest problem he saw with this country,

he said three things sort of stood out in the book, Democracy in America. Nowhere on earth is there a system so dependent on lawyers, too many lawyers, number one. Number two, tyranny of the majority, meaning just because something's a majority doesn't mean it's right. Right.

And a majority can do wrong and can take rights away from minority easily. Witness property here in California, same deal. Whatever you feel about gay marriage, absent that. Take that away and just look at a majority taking away rights from a minority. That's what that was. And then finally, paternalism.

You thought if the country, if the government becomes paternalistic, we're fucked. Well, it's not. And we become that, it's not taking away, per se, it's not giving them something. Well. There's this marginal difference. All right. And then finally, we, you and I were talking, then I separately quoted Abraham Lincoln, this guy confused what I was saying, when we were talking about equality and equitable opportunity and stuff, and that in this country people profoundly confuse equality of opportunity

with equal in all respects. In the Lincoln-Douglas debates, Lincoln said that repeatedly. He kept saying, just we've got to give everybody equality, everyone born equal with equal rights. Not equal in all respects, not in stature, not in strength, not in our reproductive organs, but we all deserve a level playing field, which is hard. You and I have talked about that, but equality of opportunity, we're not and will never be equal in all respects.

And should, in fact, we should celebrate the differences. Equal, well, I don't know about celebrate, but look, equal is impossible. Right. But, I mean, equal in terms of playing field is impossible because if your dad is a legacy at USC, you may have an easier chance getting into USC than my dad and that is impossible to prevent that. But your religion, your gender, the color of your skin and so on and so forth, that we can rely on. I mean that can be legislated and that's what needs to be legislated.

And then after that it's going to be up to you to overcome whatever. Whatever inequality of where you began was. Well look it's gonna happen with male pattern baldness. I mean look good looking people get hired more quickly than unattractive people. You may have been born with a gene that gives you a double chin and male pattern baldness. And I'm talking about the ladies. So if you are born with this gene that makes you short and stocky and gives you a nice big bald spot, you're going to have difficulty getting a job as a bartender at TGI Fridays or a receptionist at a law firm.

You're going to have to work a little harder, study a little harder, and overcome this physical genetic hand that was dealt to you. And it works that way with sports. There's no doubt that Steve Nash probably had to put a little more time in the gym than Shaquille O'Neal did. And some of that may determine the choices you make where you want to apply yourself. Like, shouldn't be, I'm not going to play pro football. Not going to happen. Hey, it's Adam Kroll from the Adam Kroll Show.

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I've weighed about 125 pounds since I was 16. I'm 5'10". And a couple problems that I think keep me from gaining weight are I had a kind of medically significant childhood. I ate through a G-tube until I was 8 years old. What was the problem? I had a... I don't know.

Gay slang. How does that work? G-tube? What, that? He had a tube into his stomach through his abdominal wall. What was the issue? When I was born, I had the cardiac valve at the top of my stomach wasn't working. Right. And they did a fundoplication but sealed it off.

Did you have achalasia of the cardia? Ooh. And I don't know. I had limbic system damage from my birth, and I think that it screwed up my muscle tone, is what I've been told. Interesting. And just kept it open.

So now you're 5, 10, 125 pounds? Yeah, and I think I have some food sensitivities, and it's sensitivities that are things that are always in like protein stuff like whey and soy. What gives you diarrhea? Yeah, really bad, really quickly. Ryan, you need to be working with somebody with real expertise in these kinds of nutritional issues. I mean, you need to go to university and find out exactly what you can and can't eat

and find a way to get these calories and proteins delivered to your body. Yeah. I mean, this is way over the top interesting stuff, but not something you can sort of go to your GNC and figure out. Yeah, Ryan, speak to your physician about, your doctor about this.

Okay, yeah, I've tried everything, and I work really high-energy jobs, so that doesn't help. No, no. There's going to be something. There'll be some... I mean, it might even be... Who knows? They may be giving you parental nutrition once a month or something. What's your high-energy job you're working? I'm a nurse doing 12-hour shifts and I run a martial arts school. Go to a university center and talk to, there's got to be nutritional experts there. I'm going

to break this matzo with my forehead. Hold it students. Four matzo. Now stack up the four matzo. Make sure there's cinder blocks between all of them. I'm going right through them. Cutting right through them with a flying elbow. Woo Marshall. All right. Well look, maybe slow down the movement a little bit, but definitely speak to a nutritionist and a doctor and get this thing worked out. All right. Well, I don't know where Gary Haftard went to. Gary you can uh we don't need to take a break but you can just you can throw that drop thing on there.

I'll tell you to fast forward. Fast forward. We have the uh it's an it's a interesting story that uh I don't know it's on KCT or something someone sent it. Can I read can I read a little? I gotta give a little love. I can tell you right now, Gary, the beginning part, you can kind of push through.

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exactly what the postage is for whatever it you want to sell excuse me send and if you want to pick up you set that up online to come pick your stuff up I'm saying this this is one of those things I have this discussion with people my family on occasion this is the way it's gonna go so let's get do let's get to it in the world yeah in your life in the world in your kids life Yeah So so here's here's the thing you can put it off for another few years and then do it and then feel like an idiot Yeah, or you can just do it now and actually wish you did it three years ago

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now. Never go to the post office again seriously registered mail Insurance return receipt whatever it is do it all from your home. All right, Drew Here's how the drop thing got started and here's why we're gonna be broke soon Drop was a budget buster. Conbury rejected it But he retired in 1999 and newly elected mayor Richard Reardon saw a drop as the solution to a big problem at that time, retaining veteran officers. What my office, the chief's office is doing is looking at how we improve the recruiting.

How do we improve the morale of the department? The Rampart police corruption scandal in 1999 and an unpopular police chief hurt morale among the rank and file. The LAPD was suffering from low recruitment numbers and high retirement rates. Reardon was under pressure to stop the hemorrhaging and to live up to his campaign promise of a 10,000-member police force. Mayor Reardon joined city council members today to push two ballot initiatives aimed at improving low police morale.

Part of Reardon's plan was the DROP plan. He campaigned heavily for it, promoting DROP as an essential recruitment tool. It easily won the support of the City Council, who put it on the ballot. All right, open the roll on item 19. Close the roll. Tabulate the vote. 12 ayes. That is approved.

It was called Charter Amendment 2. Taxpayers were told it wouldn't cost them anything. It was required to be cost neutral only to the pension fund and not to the city's overall budget. In June of 2001, the voters gave Drop a thumbs up. It was never really discussed. I think a lot of people passed it without knowledge what it was. All the cop and fireman stuff.

Schools, cops, firemen. In 2007, when DROP was up for renewal, the council even removed the so-called sunset clause, the provision which set an expiration date. DROP can't be dropped without renegotiating it. When we first reported on DROP, we asked the current city current city administrative officer Miguel Santana about the program's price tag. Has it really been reviewed? Has anybody taken a look at how much this is costing the city? We haven't up until recently. We're going to start doing that. So right now you don't know how much this costs in salaries or pensions?

The last report that was done was several years ago. That is why we need to do another one to determine whether it's still cost neutral or not. That was two years ago. Recently, we asked Santana what happened to that report. So, Miguel, when we talked to you last two years ago, we were talking to you about the drop program. We wondered if it was cost neutral to the city budget overall. And your answer then was we don't really know what we're going to work on it.

So we're back here to ask you what's the answer. And we're still looking at it. Right. They don't look at parking meters when those stop working for two years, do they? They get going. Explain it in plain English, what the issues are, what the pluses are and what the minuses are. They should do that. And I haven't seen that done. The CAO was asked to look at drop as part of the city's 2012 budget. Santana told us a study is about to begin.

It's required by the charter that we actually have a review every five years. Reardon said in study after study. We don't conduct the review with the pension systems higher. Study after study. The pension actuary to do an analysis on the cost neutrality of it and that they're in the process of doing that now. That long-awaited study on whether the drop program is cost neutral will be carried out by an actuary hired by the pension board not by the city administrative officer. What? That's not the city I know.

And that study won't look at cost to the general fund that means there will be no independent assessment of what drop is cost in the city. Councilman Parks chalks it up to pension politics. All right. Well, what do you know, Drew? Shocking. You ready for a huge change? Are you ready? Are you ready to be blown away by this city and what it can do? My only question is why doesn't everyone understand this, get it, and why isn't everyone just fucking outraged? That's my question. That's my psychological question for you.

Because there's enough smoke and mirrors to leave doubt. And it's cops and firemen. We all want them to be happy and good. First off. That's why. Okay. What about the cops who just unloaded into the back of that pickup truck where those two Mexican women were napping and they put a hundred rounds into their headrest.

Four million bucks. Four point two million bucks. How about we garnish their wages? When I owe the tax man money, he takes money away from me because I fucked up and I didn't pay. It's a really interesting thing you're raising, which is the sort of law of unintended effects. You know, we want to we wanted this all sound like a good thing at the beginning. And look what happened.

We're all happy that there were video cameras all over the place that caught the Boston bombers. Yeah, but we're the whole police state that we're applauding now, which I applaud. I'm not sure that I couldn't turn. I don't know. You know what I mean? You never know how things are going to play out. I know how they're going to play out. The people who get elected are going to want to get the people that are ripping off the tax. Basically the citizens as long as they're unioned up and mobbed up and you need them to get elected then they can

keep turning a blind eye to you guys ripping off taxpayers. And meanwhile, this whole thing about, you know, hey, teachers are heroes, our school system is a piece of shit. So these are the worst fucking superheroes on the planet. I don't know, and throwing money at them is all we do. Never seems to fix anything. And then there's a new lottery commercial that plays a song California dreaming in it and

They say, you know I think the slogan is believe in something bigger than you meaning the system the lottery the man and California dreaming was that song penned by the guy who had consensual sex with his adult daughter Oh, yeah, Papa John. Oh yeah. Because that's what I think about when the guys having all the ping pong balls rain down upon them. Childhood sexual abuse. Yeah.

No, that's adult. She was consented. Gary? Ugh. It's Gary? That's the song we're going to choose, everybody. There's not one person in the fucking retardo lottery committee that raises their hand and goes I know California Dreamin' seems, you know, at first blush like a great song for

this, but remember that part where that chick with the bad skin was on Oprah just a few years ago talking about having consensual sex with the guy who wrote the song? Nothing? Nobody? Gary. Okay. Yep. Go ahead. Go ahead, Gary. Yeah? Oh, cool. Yeah, what's up, guys? What's happening? Thanks for taking the call. Sure. Adam, big fan, Dr. Drizzle. All right. Just been with my girlfriend for going on close to three years now and love her a lot, but she's super controlling. All my friends have always kind of like not understood our relationship, but...

Hey, Gary. Hey, Gary. You smoke a lot of weed? Yeah. No, I don't. I actually have 14 months sober. Oh, good for you. Congratulations. From weed or from... No, from Oxy months sober. Oh, good for you. Congratulations.

From weed or from? From Oxycontin. You're not on subutex? No, I use the smoke weed, but I don't have it in 14 months. No Suboxone, no Methanone, nothing like that? No, no. Good. Excellent.

Well done. Well, here's the deal. Let's cut right through it because this auctioneering that he's carrying on is a little distracting. Your girlfriend's jealous. She's afraid you're going to leave her. She's fearful you're going to. Oh, no. Really?

I'd be sad if he stayed. The fact is, when you go out without her, she thinks you should be spending time with her. She feels lonely. She feels upset. She feels like you don't love her. You don't leave her. It's all her stuff. That's her stuff, but her, all the constant stuff. It's all her stuff.

That's her stuff, but that's what she's feeling. What do you do? It's not controlling, she just feels insecure. What do you do, Gary? We're actually both musicians going to a band. That's like our job. And you're in the band together? Yes, I play guitar and she's the singer and guitarist, and I am the drummer and the bass

player. Has she seen you in action, meaning like before you got together, you traveled around in the band and had sex with a few women, that kind of stuff? Well, she saw me before in action as far as being on drugs and lying to her about it when we first got together. The answer, Adam, is yes she has, Adam. It's interesting you would bring that up. So she sort of knows what you're capable of, in other words. has, Adam. It's interesting you would bring that up. Not well. So she sort of knows what you're capable of, in other words.

Exactly, exactly. Right. And that's unfortunate, because once she knows what you could be doing, because she's seen it, it's not a theory. At least now you're sober, and that's great. Although I got to tell you something. I got a question what sober means for old Gary here.

I'm in the program. But you're not what I would call maintaining rigorous honesty. Rigorous honesty? That's a good band name, man. I saw them at Coachella last weekend. You know, everything is a deflection. They open for the naked truth. Everything is a little bit of a denial, a little bit of a rigorous honesty and naked truth.

Nice. They open for it. Man, they tore with it. Yeah. All right, so Gary, your 25, relationships are supposed to end when you're 25. Yeah, but they're in the same band. You got to say to her, look, I'm sober.

I'm a big boy. I'm sorry for what happened in the past. All I'm doing is going out with my friends and playing a little skee-ball and if you're going to keep working this angle, we're just going to have to break it up. And I know I'm not the first person to bring up the rigorous honesty, work hard with your sponsor, get that fifth step, the fourth and fifth step done. Alright, somebody wants to know about custody. Hey Scott.

Hey guys, how you doing? Good, how you doing? Oh, pretty good, Appreciate you taking my call. Um, short story, I'm in the middle of a divorce right now. My wife and I have five kids together. And we're it's been kind of a protracted process. But in the interim, what I'm getting is lots of time to visit with my kids. But no time for them to stay in my new house to what i would consider live with

me rather than just maybe in their babysitter the argument that i'm running into we don't have a family court system here we just have a regular judicial system everybody winds up with mom gets custody that it's weekend like to see more of a fifty-50 split and I'm just curious what is your opinion on that Drew maybe is there any evidence or research on how kids do in a more split situation we did a 50-50 split and my sister and I both turned out incredibly I mean they got a full ride to Yale. Right, right.

So I was in the Air Force Academy when I was 17 and a half. I'm not quite sure what you're asking. Well, but here's the deal. Look, if you're both good parents, then you want to split it and you would work it out. But I mean, who cares if you're like, you know, during the school week, it works out better for the kids if she's there with the mom, the mom's near the school, maybe you see them some afternoons, maybe you don't. How's mama though?

She with the program? Oh, no, mom's good. I guess my only thought is I'm pretty good too. And I just don't know, everybody seems to think it's going to damage these kids if they don't have a primary home and then they come visit me on the weekends. The weekends, I mean they need a primary home for school, right? Well, I mean we both live in the same town, we live in the same school district, we're both educated professionals.

I unless, look, I would talk to your kids, to the kids, I would talk to the wife and whatever you guys agree upon is is going to be fine. If it's a collaborative thing you work out together with you know the sort of a collaboration that the family works out even though there's two different homes it's going to be fine. And the fact that you both care enough to care. Yeah right. I mean that I do not just care but do the work.

Yeah but you're talking about it that you're interested in the Future of the children and their psychological well-being and so on and so forth that there It's like I don't worry about those people. You got divorced kids Oftentimes suffer and then it just becomes a matter of degree Right and your job is to lessen the impact of divorce and first step is you both caring. Now there's a lot of times when there's a lot of acrimony and the wife is pissed off and the husband got caught cheating and all she wants to do is make that miserable cheating son of a bitch miserable and she'll use the kids as a weapon essentially to make the guy

miserable. That doesn't sound like what this is so they're gonna be fine. Yeah, okay Thomas 34, Ohio Get it on man Question for you now this may sound a little whiny or maybe trivial, but Drew you're always talking about Importance of 12 steps and programs and I've always been skeptical But I've gotten into them and sort of realized that's probably the only way but the God thing is so interwoven into everything that they

do and you understand then you need to find a different meaning where that's not prominent. There just needs to be a concept of faith. Do they have that 12 step where they ratchet it down a little bit like we're pendulet like just guest speaking and stuff like that? That's rational recovery which is very very similar to something called rational recovery. Oh really? But I just tell people look stay with the program don't think of the word God just think of faith and that concept is there strictly from a scientific, to get you to stop controlling everything, to let go and have faith that you can let go.

Now, some people need a very elaborate concept with religion to have that faith. Some people just need to have faith in the laws of physics. Whatever that is for you, stop thinking about the word God and think in terms of faith. And also, look, as an atheist, just fucking get used to it. I mean, I turn on the news, you know, every time you see the president up there, he's like, Michelle and I have prayed for the victims and the families. But prayer doesn't necessarily mean God. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't give a shit. No, but in God, we trust in God

and this and that and guys Swear to God and put your hand on the Bible. No, just get past it. And first off Look, I'm an atheist. I don't believe in God, but if everyone went by the Ten Commandments, I'd be fine. And rituals are good for people. Yes. Yes. Alright. And faith is good. Just get over yourself a little bit and I'll tell you what. Send Send your God some flowers whoever it is that's right pro flowers baby that's what God would want he'd want something he wouldn't want you go down the corner go down the cemetery and ripping them

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