The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Saraya on Wrestling, Scandals & Clawing Through Nine Lives - Adam and Dr. Drew #1989

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

Former WWE star Saraya steps into the ring with Adam and Dr. Drew to talk about her new book, Hell in Heels: Clawing My Way Through Nine Lives—a autobiographical account of her journey through the h...ighs and lows of professional wrestling, personal battles, and public scrutiny. She opens up about breaking into the industry as an outsider, the struggles of being a female wrestler in a male-dominated world, and how a deeply personal scandal affected her career. The conversation dives into cancel culture, social media mobs, and the ever-blurring line between privacy and public judgment—from leaked tapes to career-defining controversies. Saraya doesn’t hold back, and with Adam and Dr. Drew weighing in, the episode is a mix of brutal honesty, dark humor, and deep psychological insight. For more on Saraya: "Hell in Boots: Clawing My Way Through Nine Lives" - Memoir, detailing her rise in wrestling, personal struggles, and triumphant return. On sale March 25, 2025 (Gallery Books). PRE-ORDER NOW: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Hell-in-Boots/Saraya-Jade-Bevis/9781668027844?utm_campaign=hell_in_boots&utm_content=&utm_medium=author_media&utm_source=author_post INSTAGRAM: @Saraya TWITTER: @Saraya

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Name. Yeah. Hell and Boots crawling Crawling My Way Through Nine Lives, and that'll be on sale March 25th. But actually you can pre-order it now, I'm assuming. Yeah, I've written enough books to know that if you pre-order a book, it'll show up the day the book drops.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Exactly, yeah. And it's good for you, because it'll get you. That New York Times bestseller, Help Me Out, will ya? That's what I'm saying. book drops. Exactly. Yeah. And it's good for you because it'll get you that New York Times bestseller help me out. That's what I'm saying. So it says crawling my way through nine lives. What does that mean? I've just been through a lot and I always like call myself a cat because by the time I'm like 33 I've just gone through a lot of different scenarios and different life altering things. So yeah they wanted wanted like a little extra line and I was like, okay, crawl on my way through nine lives.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I can't even say it, but yes. Well, so tell us, let's go through your history. Oh, alright. Your journey. Let's do it. How do you get to the WWE? How do I get there? So I'm originally from the UK and they do two tours every like a
Starting point is 00:03:07 year in April and then November. And I got scouted, which was really great. I worked on the independence for like in front of 20 people in the crowd or whatever, you know, like paying your dues and all that kind of stuff. Anyway, one of the scouts had come along thankfully, and they gave me an opportunity. I didn't get in the first time though. The first time, they were not about it. I thought I had to dress like how a diva would dress. At the time, they were blonde haired, tanned, big boobs. They looked fantastic.
Starting point is 00:03:37 They were unattainable, just beautiful women. I was just a scruffy little emo girl. Still am at heart. Just more of a gl glam pie than a vampire but Yeah, I had the first tryout and I did not get in and then I came back a second time completely dressed the way I like to be dressed and I go in and that was 2011 and
Starting point is 00:04:00 How'd you even get to wrestling before this? My whole family wrestled. I come from a wrestling family. So my mom was actually wrestling with me while she was pregnant and didn't realize. Wow. So I've been wrestling since I was a fetus, I always say. Wow. Yeah, she got thrown onto the outside of the ring
Starting point is 00:04:17 and she was just a small lady. She just popped out my brother. So she was like, there ain't no way I'm pregnant. And then she went to a doctor because she was feeling a little sick one day and she was still having her periods sorry she was still having her periods too so she was like no way that I can be pregnant and here I am and all my glory how that's gotta be very infrequent right that's rare having your periods and pregnant
Starting point is 00:04:40 that's not periods that's not gonna to say. That is preterm bleeding because of all the wrestling. Oh, is it? Is that what it is? Yeah. I mean, she thought it was her period, but that is not her period. That is placenta previa or something wrong with the pregnancy. Wow. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:04:58 And it can resolve, but it's all the wrestling probably that caused it. Well, here I am. I'm all right. I have a little bit of scoliosis, but I think that's probably the most damage she's done to me. Can you have your period and be pregnant, Drew? It's technically not having your period. Yeah, it's not. He's like, no.
Starting point is 00:05:15 It isn't. Yeah, I mean, it's not a rare thing. It's just it's not really technically you can't. It's something else. It's not what it is. It's something else, yes. I mean, you may think it's your period else. It's something else, yes. You may think it's superior but that's not what it is. Yeah. So your whole family was a wrestling family. Yeah. That would explain how you got into it. Yeah. Oh, I tried to fight against it though. I wanted to be a vet or a zoologist or anything towards animals but my dad was like get in that ring and I was like okay. Remember we used to talk about that all the time, Drew. Every young girl wants to be a vet
Starting point is 00:05:46 Maybe we do and then they find out then they have to take chemistry class and they go fuck this Organic chemistry is usually the threshold right there. I didn't even get that far as 13 years old when I started wrestling So I was like where do you guys come down on this? I? Did I was talking about this the other day, but I had this talk with my daughter where... This should be good. Yeah, years ago, years ago. You know, with kids they have, oh, it's career day, it's school, and so the fireman comes in and he talks,
Starting point is 00:06:20 and then little Johnny's dad's a lawyer, and then he comes in and he talks, and then Susie's daughter, you know, whatever, his mom's a nurse, and then she comes in and she talks, right? And they talk about everything, but they never tell you how much money they make. And so kids sit there thinking lawyer, fireman, nurse, it's all the same, you know? And it's not all the same because they're picturing working as a fireman and living in a big house, you know what I mean, and driving a Mercedes. But because it's just career day,
Starting point is 00:06:55 they never talk about money, which they should. I was with my daughter, she was like six or seven, or I don't know, she was ice skating like your daughter used to do back in the day. And she was pretty good at it, like Drew's daughter, and she liked the vibe, you know? And we're taking a walk and she said, I said, what do you think you wanna do?
Starting point is 00:07:18 She goes, I wanna teach ice skating. I said, oh, that's good. But you gotta understand, it doesn't pay anything. I mean, you can teach ice skating and have a wonderful life, but you're not living in the house we're living in and you're not driving the car mommy's driving and you're not getting all the stuff you want,
Starting point is 00:07:35 you're gonna live in an apartment and you may be happy, but do not picture this. And she's like, oh, then I don't wanna do that. That's when she told me she wanted to be a podcaster. Right, but my point is it's noble. If I was seven I'd want to teach ice skating too except for that doesn't pay shit and somebody's got to start explaining kids hey you can do all this gratifying stuff but you're not going to be living in the house you grew up in. No, yeah. I mean, the house I grew up in wasn't great. Well, not you. I'm talking about me and my kids.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Oh, yeah. You're a rich guy over here. I got you that big house. Big house, rich. That's me. That's what I do. Yes. That's not pay taxes if you're rich. Everyone else is rich and doesn't want to talk about it, but I'll talk about it all day. So your parents were wrestled, but they, and that's all they did. That was their living. That was, yep, that was it. That was it. And it didn't pay very well. It did not pay very well. If you want to earn money within the wrestling industry, I mean, it's a lot better these days, but you need to be in WWE or AW
Starting point is 00:08:44 or, you know, even TNA. Like now there's, there's options, but you need to be in WWE or AEW or even TNA, now there's options, but back then there was no options. You were getting 20 pounds a match and that was it, and you had to travel eight hours for it. That's like 25 bucks or something in the US. Yeah. But you did it. I did it.
Starting point is 00:09:00 You did it because you loved it, or you did it because your parents made you do it? No, I loved it once I got in the ring you get the bug and you get the adrenaline rush and you love Entertaining the eight people that were in the crowd that day. He made them feel something, you know And so after that I was like I was hooked on it and then I started traveling by myself I started traveling the world by myself at 14 years old because 14. Yeah, and I wanted to be a diva I want to be a WWE diva and the way to do that is like I have to be noticed. I have to get the you know, the exposure, the everything I need
Starting point is 00:09:31 I need to do it. And it was again a lot harder back then being a female in wrestling because no one really took us seriously. I remember trying to go into this company called Irish whip and I will name them because fuck them. But like they said, we don't like female wrestlers here. And I was just like, you'll regret that one day. I hope they, I mean, they shut down. So I definitely did better than they did. It didn't work. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:51 What is the popularity if we can measure it between female wrestling and male wrestling? For instance, there is a gap between the NBA and the WNBA. Oh, we're not like that. Yeah, that's a big gap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't imagine there's that. And then there's UFC where the fight cards are mixed,
Starting point is 00:10:21 male fights, female fights, interwoven. So you couldn't really just go off of how many pay per views because women fought amongst the male fights. I suppose if you had an all female fight card, and you did a pay per view, then you could sort of measure that but it still varies from fighter to fighter. Yeah, we did that one time. The revolution, it was called, with WWE, and it did amazing.
Starting point is 00:10:46 We sold out the arena, the pay-per-view clicks were great. Do we need a... Ah, keep talking, I don't know, we're true. There we go. But yeah, like we... We don't need Drew anyway, but go ahead. How dare you. Theology's there.
Starting point is 00:11:02 All right, sorry. Yeah, but female wrestling, it didn't used to be the way it is today, but now like the girls can main event and they can do like these big things and people watch and buy their merchandise. What do you say it's 75% of what the male game is or is there any way to evaluate it? I know there's no way because it depends on who the girl is. I mean, like, it's like UFC, for example, you can't put Ronda Rousey against someone who's more unknown, you know, so it's
Starting point is 00:11:31 like, it's hard to tell with that. But there is women like Ronda Rousey within the WWE to like massive women that are doing movies and main event in and selling more merch than some of the guys, you know, it's definitely possible I was one of them. Okay, I sold a lot of freaking much. I moved a lot of boxes What was yeah, what was your number one item in the merch department? So my first ever shirt that I had WWE put out was t-shirts had think again, which I never I didn't I was like What what does this mean? Think again on a t-shirt like what does that mean? And hunt a triple H. He said if you know what a diva is think again, so I'm like, okay I'm gonna have to explain that to a lot of people but the shirt did so well
Starting point is 00:12:13 It sold out within 24 hours and though it was thousands of units, you know And and I think that's what made them be like, oh she can move much Let's bring her up to the main roster, you know, and earn some more money out of her. You know? Isn't it weird how some things just catch on? I got a couple of questions. So you, I noticed you use the word clawing, obviously in the title. Is that a, in any way trying to capture the follow on to the iron claw and that movie
Starting point is 00:12:41 and that whole situation? No, no, no, no, no. That was just a, it was a little accident with the names,? No, no, no, no, no. That was just a little accident with the names. But yeah, no, this is just more of like I'm scraping and clawing my way through my life to get to where I am. And so my next question is you had some, I don't know about this, but there's some sort of video that leaked and this is part of it. You claw through. what was that yeah so okay so when I was 19 years old I was just trying to please the man that I was with he was a lot older than me you know and he was just like that's make videos that's make pitches that's have a threesome with somebody and I was again 19 so I was
Starting point is 00:13:19 like okay like how old was he uh I'm trying to remember he was more he was closer to 30. Oh, yeah, that's not much older. It's not much older, but I'm just 61 or something. Yeah, yeah 19 you're trying to make him happy But what was the thought process because I'm just always amazed the way women delude themselves into, oh, this is what I'm a liberated person. Of course we're going to do that. No, I was miserable the whole time. That wasn't liberating.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I was just like, again, I was eager to please and it was, I freshly had come over to America and I was, I didn't have friends and this guy took a shine to me, you know, and I was just like, oh wow, I feel so cool. This older man likes me, you know, this is great. And yeah, he was just, he would ask me to do things and no, he didn't hold a gun to my head. I wasn't like, oh God, like you're forcing me. No, I did it.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Ultimately it was my decision, but I was just doing it to please this guy. And so it wasn't fun. And I drank a lot to like get through it because I was very, I was not confident whatsoever. So I was like, okay, I'll just drink to do this and it'd be perfectly fine. And yeah, so I, I did that with him and he always wanted pictures. He always wanted videos.
Starting point is 00:14:33 It was like an all day, every day kind of thing. And then, um, eventually it ended up leaking in 2017 and I had a new boyfriend at that point, which caused me a lot of problems. But again, this was like years prior to the sense that he was pissed that you left and I was going to get back at you? I don't know what the deal is. So listen, he denies it and like there's no way to prove it. Right. But well, like meaning his, he says his phone was hacked or something like that.
Starting point is 00:15:00 He was just saying it was not from him whatsoever. But he was the only one that had that stuff. But it's okay. Whatever happened. Just doing the the math just doing the math rope in two and two together yeah but he's got it he's got to have some plausible deniability he can't just go it wasn't for me if if you're the only look if if um sorry if if i told you you, if I tell you to watch my suitcase with a million dollars in it and then at some point I show up and all the money's gone, you can't just go, it wasn't me. You have to go, somebody broke in and stole the money. Yeah. And then we could, you can lie, but you still can't just say it wasn't me.
Starting point is 00:15:43 You got to come up with something, right? Right. He didn't come wasn't me. You gotta come up with something, right? Right. He didn't come up with anything. Didn't come up with anything, nothing. And then WWE was working with me to try and get these things taken down, but once on the internet, you can't get it off. People save it, people, you know, there's no freaking way.
Starting point is 00:15:56 They repost it, and I still get hounded with it these days. But yeah, so that happened, and it was just humiliating. I wouldn't wish it on anybody to have someone see my, you know, I was gonna be like really crass for a second, but like, hang on, is this a PG show? Yeah, just see my gimmick and everything in between down there, you know what I mean? I was just like very mortified again.
Starting point is 00:16:19 I was just a 19 year old girl. I just made a silly mistake, but yeah, it was just mortifying and embarrassing and humiliating. Yeah, no, I could imagine it would be amongst, like we've talked in previous shows about trauma. This is trauma. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:38 This is... And not only that though, but I'm guessing it's... You said that you were giving advice to other young women. I'm guessing this is not that uncommon. No. Because the picture thing is so common. It happens even more now that it's become more of a reoccurring regular thing. And I wish it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I wish there was more laws against it. You know what? But actually, it's kind of interesting psychologically. But I don't know, Drew, tell me what you think you think In that I'll give you an example Having a herpes blister is embarrassing to most people walking around the big herpetic sore on their lip but But if you showed up to work and four other people had a herpes sore Well, I wouldn't be as embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:17:26 You would not like your herpes. No, that's right. But being the only person on your office floor with it versus four other people, it's not as bad. And at this point, you know, when you got the Kardashians and half of Hollywood with some sort of scandalous tapers, topper compromising something, at some point you're joining the ranks of a large group of people. I love being a part of it.
Starting point is 00:17:57 No, no one wants the herpes sore. I get it. But literally Kim Kardashian, one of the most successful women in the world, had this thing dropped. It's been 15 years now and it hasn't affected her. Well, maybe in the quiet moments. I don't know. But seems pretty respectful. People aren't holding it against her as she's successful and so on and so forth. All I'm saying is, at a certain point, it will be the norm that everyone has a tape out there, a little bit compromising, and then the trauma will probably not be as grand. I don't know, Drew, what's your thought? I agree. I think that's exactly right,
Starting point is 00:18:39 but it's not 2017. You had to go through it then, of course. course. But yeah, I think that is correct. And with AI, you can always go, ah, it's AI. Now you can. Yeah. No, you are right because now, again, it's such a common thing. It doesn't make me feel as bad anymore for sure. In 2017, I'm a trailblazer. Yeah, I'm the Kim Kardashian of wrestling. In 2017, it was mortifying, embarrassing, awful, right? But again, as the years go on, it's actually just like when people make jokes about it, I'm just like, you look like an idiot now. It happens to everybody. So yes, you're right. The trauma definitely like, like chills eventually. But still, it's not fun when it does happen,
Starting point is 00:19:28 even if it's nowadays where it's more common. Yeah, and it has to affect the relationship you're currently in. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it affects relationships going forward in general, because no one wants to see that girlfriend online spread. You know? Right. So yeah, so it has affected my personal life.
Starting point is 00:19:46 And then, I mean, if you don't care about that stuff, that's great, but I wasn't like a porn star in any way, shape or form. It wasn't like I wanted it to be online. So that's the only thing that differentiates me from some women. It's also an interesting phenomenon psychologically, Drew. interesting phenomenon psychologically drew. It's interesting because we judge a lot of behavior that we deem immoral that we would not participate in, meaning
Starting point is 00:20:20 I would never kick my dog hard in the ribs. But if there's a videotape of somebody doing it, it would damage them a lot. If you just took Simon Cowell and somebody took a videotape of him just walloping his dog, just kicking his dog, hard in the ribs and then kicking it again, it would fuck his career up badly. And it would make it would be the lead story everywhere. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's because I would never kick my dog. And everyone watching would never do this to their dog. But we all fuck. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:21:09 No, everybody. I'm trying. This is a video, but this is a video of you doing something we want to do and do do and have done. You know what I'm saying? This is not you pistol whipping the Post-It guy. This is, it's you.
Starting point is 00:21:25 It's like saying, we have videotape of him taking a shit. You know what I mean? And you go, oh, embarrassing. But it's like, yeah, except for I took a shit 20 minutes ago. There's a difference between immoral behavior and private stuff. And it's also weird to judge private stuff because it's the stuff you do. So where
Starting point is 00:21:48 and then where's the judgment part coming in? Kicking the dog wouldn't do it. Having sex would like to do it. Or did do it. Yeah. I mean, everyone, like I said, some people don't and they're the ones that get mad about it because they're not getting any probably. But like my dad said the same thing, right? I called him because I was like, oh my gosh, I'm like, I embarrassed my dad, my dad's going to be mortified and all that kind of stuff, right? And when I called him, he was just like, everybody has sex.
Starting point is 00:22:16 He was like, you're just in the public eye. And eventually it went like it got put out, right? And it's unfortunate, but my dad was great. Yeah, he was just like, and he mentioned Kim Kardashian. He's like, Hey, maybe it could be you more famous like Kim K. And I was like, How do you even know Kim Kardashian? It really confused me. But yeah, he was extremely supportive. He was just like, everyone does it. So like, if they're mad about it, he doesn't understand. Like, of course, you don't want like, if you're a parent, you don't want to see, like your kids see that role model online,
Starting point is 00:22:45 but it wasn't purposely put online. It wasn't that I wanted it online. So it's just like, if you're mad about it, you're a virgin, bro. Yeah, it's a kind of an ugly side of humans. Weird sort of pounce, judgy kind of thing. That's it's back to sort of school yard stuff, you know? Well, and you're talking about scapegoating, right? And scapegoating has been really active
Starting point is 00:23:14 because of social media now. People get sad, gratified from that. It's disgusting. One of the basest human instincts. People are just waiting for an opportunity to jump on somebody. That's why in wrestling I prefer to be the bad guy because it's easier to get people to hate you than love you. Well, the scapegoating is something that narcissists do, right? They gather together to express their narcissistic rage at a one. It's how mobs form.
Starting point is 00:23:38 And man, we've been seeing that lately. Oh, it's really bad. I think we kind of just lived it with COVID. A hundred percent. Any cancellation thing is the same thing. It's all scapegoating. Yeah, it's really bad. I think we kind of just lived it with COVID, you know, 100 percent. Like, you know, any cancellation thing is the same thing. It's all scapegoating. Yeah, it's weird. It's it's it's it's sort of people and civilization at their ugliest. You know, yes, yes, very much.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I don't have that instinct. Not because I'm a gracious person. I'm just lazy. You know, I'm like, I don't got time to fucking care about other people's shit that means nothing. It means nothing to me, so what do I care? You know, like people do a lot of, this person said this or did, who gives a shit? Don't you have shit to do? What about your shit? I'm too much of a narcissist to be a narcissist and care about other people's shit.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I mean, my thing is, it's COVID. Do you wanna wear a mask? Do you not wanna wear a mask? Do you wanna get vaccinated? Do you not wanna get vaccinated? I don't know, I don't give a fuck. How about that? It's refreshing, I like hearing you say that.
Starting point is 00:24:41 But it's really lethargy meets a kind of a narcissism. Extreme narcissism. Meets an inhumanity, which is, I don't give a, if you, you don't have to take any vaccination for anything. That's not true about you. You do give a fuck and your moral compass tells you when to give a fuck, that's all. You just know when not to.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Well, listen, when when the Spanish soccer president is brought up on assault charges for hugging and kissing in celebration after winning the World Cup, I take I defend that guy and I yell about it. You who want to condemn him, you're part of the narcissistic mob in my my world. So I will burn calories on Causes that are important to me. Thank you, Drew. It's just exhausting to live like that tear to like Just keep jumping on somebody for like the smallest mistake and some of it is not even mistakes It's like like the Spanish coach you were talking about. It was just like there was no malice or Intent to be like,
Starting point is 00:25:45 it's awesome. And we're speaking about speaking about small mistakes. I know you'll survive. Soraya's esteem will go up in your eyes, noting that you mispronounced her name at the entrance. Oh, she did not correct you. Wait, it's Soraya. You said said Sariah. Oh see? I did it too. I did it too. You bet your partner. Whatever it was I knew you did it wrong. Everyone in the back there. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Thank you. It was like a ray of sunshine I like to tell people. I got it written phonetically. Sareya. I love that you actually do. I'm impressed. Sareya. But you also said my full government name.
Starting point is 00:26:21 It was great. Sareya Jade Beavis. I was like okay. But Drew you just said Sariah. I mispronounced it. He didn't say anything. He didn't correct me. Is the point that she is she is somebody that you would hold on. Hold on. Let me just try to break this down. I was correcting you and I corrected you wrong. Wrong. Incorrect. No, but here's the thing. Maybe I said it right because your correction was wrong. You said Saraya and then I said Saraya.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Yes, Saraya. Oh, really? Is that what happened? Dude, I actually can't remember. I'm sorry, it's just people saying my name wrong. True. Why would you correct me by saying it the same way? Because I couldn't remember she corrected somebody in the studio before you got in there
Starting point is 00:27:02 and you came in immediately and said it wrong. And I thought, oh, and she didn't it wrong. And I thought oh and she didn't correct you and I thought oh you'd like to know that because that's something you. Alright shut up. We're talking about something and you had to jump in. We're talking about the sponge. Go back and listen to the tape. We'll see how we said it. I'm not saying I said it right. I'm saying you mispronouncing my pronunciation
Starting point is 00:27:24 makes me suspicious. All right, let's take it to the wrestling ring. We'll figure it out. It'd be interesting. It makes me suspicious too now that you mention it. All right. Anyway, what were we talking about, Drew? Can't remember. We were talking about small problems, small mistakes. Small mistakes. Well, also the coach, there's a whole apparatus that has to go into place. Judges, attorneys, courts. You know, I mean, this is not,
Starting point is 00:27:48 this is millions of dollars worth of apparatus that has to be mobilized, because this guy plants a 0.7 second kiss on somebody in a sold out stadium while celebrating. It's the amount of calories burnt on it. It's nothing. You know what I mean? They're real issues and they take real attention and this takes it away from that. This takes... stenographers have to go to work and write down all of the stuff he says in his deposition.
Starting point is 00:28:21 You know what I mean? And lawyers need to be there. And it needs to be in a building that has electricity in it. And everyone has to take transportation there and stuff. For what? What is it? It's nothing. I think anybody that lies on someone, male or female, they need repercussions for it. Because I feel like a lot of people can get away with saying and doing whatever they want and putting it on social media. And I feel like there needs to be some kind of repercussions in my bitch soccer player needs to fucking be brought to the light because she said it was nothing and
Starting point is 00:28:55 Then they got to her then the crazy Narcissistic evil mob got to her and then she changed her story This all could have went away if she just went, it was nothing, sorry. I know you want me to say it was something, it wasn't. And no, I wasn't victimized, we were celebrating and I liked the guy, gone. But they fucking got to her and this is what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:29:19 over and over to Drew. People aren't evil and they're not bad but they're fucking weak. They're weak and this bitch is weak. I'm sure she's fine and nice and never hurt anybody, but she's weak because she caved the second that mob got to her and then did something evil, which is ruin a man's life.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Is she evil? No. Did she do evil? Yes. So then what's the fucking difference? It's like the whole Blake Lively thing. Have you caught up with that stuff? Yeah I'll tell you what. I'll take a quick break. We'll come back with Saraya. There you go. And we'll talk about Blake after this. Sometimes in life, well, you want the truth. You want the truth most of the time, but you wanna get to truth, you gotta look at the numbers. Naturopathic, Dr. Dennis Black,
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Starting point is 00:31:59 Yeah, it's hard to miss. It is hard to miss. You see Candace Owens breaking it down for everybody too. She was great at the popcorn and stuff, let me tell you. Candace Owens can break it down. She can, especially like, I'm going to start getting into stuff about her right now because she was going into the French president or prime minister or whatever it was. Macron's wife. Macron.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Apparently he might be his dad and it was just like, oh my gosh, she's great at getting into the knee agree And I'm like, oh, I'm just I'm glued to my screen. Now. She was conspiracy theories become entertainment. Yeah Whole run on Kamala Harris in her memoir talking about her black grandma like back in Jamaica or something It's like that's not who's in that picture and no one's heard of her. And you kind of go, really? It's kind of interesting. She makes you believe, I tell you. She does. Yeah. Now at the time, the mainstream media doesn't want to support Candace Owens at all or anything. So that's why they don't, you know, look, Drew, did Kamala Harris work
Starting point is 00:33:03 at McDonald's or not? Don't you think 60 Minutes could figure it out? Oh, hell yeah. 60 Minutes, an intern at a local paper in Shreveport. But they can't figure it out, which means they don't wanna figure it out, which means they know she's lying and they're trying to protect her
Starting point is 00:33:21 and that's what happened to mainstream media. But, sorry, Blake Lively. Blake Lively, yeah, yeah. So her and Justin Baldoni were in a movie together, and she kind of took over the whole thing. But then she started crying about how he sexually assaulted her and made her feel uncomfortable and all these things, and then it turns out like
Starting point is 00:33:52 it's not it's bullshit you know and like and Candice did a deep dive on all the uh the lawsuit and all the paperwork and she read it all and like thoroughly and so I was like I was I was really entertained by the same time I'm like it's wrong to publicly try and destroy someone's life just because you don't like them or because you didn't get your way or something like that. I think that should be punishable because she could have ruined this guy's life completely and she's powerful. She has powerful husband, powerful best friend. I agree. Well, we've made some tactical errors as a society, which is to say we took women and we took certain minorities, black mainly,
Starting point is 00:34:29 but not so much Jews or Asians, and we empowered them with some sort of get out of jail free card, which is if something happens to you that's negative or somebody treats you in a negative way or an interaction with cops, you can play this card. Blacks can play it with society or being fired from a job, you know, or whatever it is, and cops, interactions with cops, and women can play the believe every woman. Remember that
Starting point is 00:34:58 bullshit from five years ago? Yeah, tell that to the Spanish soccer president if he's happy with the believe every woman Edith that went out and now we can fuck you up now I'm not telling you that I wouldn't Drew I don't know if you were 21 and somebody like fired you, you know, and somebody said It can't just be because you're black. I Don't know. Would you have play that card a few times? I got I, I'm now living in Burbank. I'm displaced. I walk, I walk across the intersection that I famously got a jaywalking
Starting point is 00:35:42 ticket in, in 1994. And it's really interesting to me because it's where San Fernando tees into a street. It makes a T, there's a big mall there. The street just runs into the mall. And I stepped off the curb and walked across in the crosswalk while it was saying walk. And I got to the other side and a motorcycle cop zoomed across the same direction I was going after me. Cars were lined
Starting point is 00:36:15 up to go. He zipped across, stopped, and he wrote me a jaywalking ticket. And I said, for crossing in the crosswalk while the light was green. And he said, yeah, but you stepped off the curb after it started blinking. Now, I said, well, I'm gonna fight this and I'm gonna win so we should save time right now and have you not write a ticket because gonna I'm gonna have to go in, pay the amount of ticket, get a court date, take a day off work and come back. And the guy said, yeah, have fun. And he wrote me the ticket. Now, if I were black, and he was a white guy, what other conclusion would I draw
Starting point is 00:36:59 than he was a racist? And I would then go home and I would explain that a racist cop gave me a nonsensical jaywalking ticket today for the crime of being black. Everyone I told would agree with me. You're just anti-Italian. Yeah. Yeah. What happened? I forget what happened to court date. I showed up first couple of things. I showed up and they require you to pay the full amount, which already is illegal. We have not decided if this crime happened or not yet. Why am I being punished? Whatever the crime is, it's like saying, well, we're going to charge him for manslaughter, but he's going to sit in jail for five years while we adjudicate this. Like, that's not how the law works. You got to find me guilty first. So they make you pay in full first,
Starting point is 00:37:55 which is one of those bullshit things that the government would go nuts if Amazon had some version of that. But they do it all the time. Paid them in full, got a court date, came back, I don't know, three weeks later, sat there for two hours, had to fucking take the day off work, sat there and the cop never showed up because he knew he had a shit case. So he didn't show up and then they announced I'd won. And I said one what? One what? Two days off work, cutting you guys a check that you gave me back. You say that in court? I said it on the radio for the next five years and they went nuts. Burbank PD went nuts because first off, bitch, if this is $135 ticket and I win, winning
Starting point is 00:38:49 is not paying you. Winning is you owe me $135 because that's what you tried to extract from me. That's how it should work. And maybe that'll slow your shit down next time you write chicken shit tickets. Then that's where Burbank got the name change to Rape Bank, Drew. Remember that one? I remember Rape Bank.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I do remember. I thought it was just because of the ticket. I forgot the court part of it. Oh, it's all above. And then what drove Burbank cops nuts is I wished that all the cops sitting around holding the radar detectors, trying to give soccer moms tickets, got testicular cancer from the radar detectors trying to give soccer moms tickets got testicular
Starting point is 00:39:27 cancer from the radar detectors and then they went fucking nuts. That's when they went nuts on me. Oh, but my thing is like stop writing chicken shit tickets then. Yeah. Stop it. They hate to see you coming. I said, I got it. I got on the phone. I said, who writes more jaywalking tickets in a year? The city of Burbank or the state of Louisiana go ahead You tell me who is the state of New York in a comparable size state it'd be the same Yeah, it'll be Burbank. No, I mean Burbank versus Louisiana Yeah in all of Louisiana in the little hobble known as Burbank Burbank writes ten minutes times as many tickets stop fucking taking money from citizens. Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:40:08 This guy went the same direction. I went He put himself in way more danger than I was in because I was on the other side standing there I love it. You're still talking about this what 1994 Listen I got a good memory for trauma. That's my trauma. That is your trauma. I was traumatized. Did you still have beef with him? What I'm saying is if I was black, I would have no other conclusion but to think this guy was racist. Right. That's right. And no one would try to talk me out of it given these circumstances.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Everyone would agree with you. And I would argue that if I was black, he may not have written the ticket because I would immediately cry racism. Thank you. Anyway, stop reading your phone. What do you got? Go to my phone? Is that what you said? I'm not talking anymore. You talk. He's walked up. He's like, I need to chill. So did you see the series out here in this, uh, in this country glow about wrestling? So, um, yes, I did the one on Netflix. Yeah. And then they actually have a TV show now that is glow. So there is like a glow thing and then they have, but they,
Starting point is 00:41:20 but the, the screw there was scripted and a documentary about the glow. I love it. I love it. I loved it. And did that capture sort of the early experience you had is what I'm wondering. Yeah. I mean, yes. Yeah. I probably, I mean, that was based, I think before my time, but it was definitely like
Starting point is 00:41:39 rough in my time as a female wrestler, just trying to get to the WWE, trying to get people to take you seriously. Even when I first got to WWE, I mean, we were looked at like a piss break, you know, like they were just, we weren't entertaining enough for them, but we also were doing brown panties matches. We weren't like really showing what we can do. So then when I first came there, I was like, I, I don't want to do that. I don't want to be in a bikini contest in front of like a five-year-old kid, you know, where I have to take my shirt off and stuff like that. I was like, I'm not about it. I would really like to have a wrestling match if that's okay. So eventually like they
Starting point is 00:42:14 did, you know, start giving us that. And then when we got up on the main roster, it went back to nothing again. And we'd get like one minute for a match. It was rough. And then one day they gave us what like a, they gave us a five minute match. And then as we were about to go out, they gave us like two minutes for entrance and exit and match. So like there was no way we can get a story in. So it was me, the Bella twins and this girl called Emma. And we were just like, you know what? Like, fuck this. We're going to go out there. We're going to do the pin and get the fuck out. We're going to give them 10 seconds because we're just sick of this shit. Right? So we did that. And then that was like kind of around the time where Twitter first started.
Starting point is 00:42:52 And so they got the hashtag trending give divas a chance for three days straight. And it made Vince and everybody like sit up and be like, oh shit, like we actually have to do something with these girls. All because we just got sick of being treated like garbage. And so, yeah, and then that started. And there was a TV show too, right? Um, Glow TV show? No, Divas. Oh, Divas.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Yeah. So we had Total Divas, which did amazing. And then we would get in better rate in some days than the actual wrestling show. And so like that kind of put female wrestlers on the map there too, because it took like, you know, housewives and you know, everyone that wouldn't usually watch wrestling, it brought eyes to that product and then brought eyes to the wrestling side. So yeah, the reality show like we did a lot for female wrestling and reality is one of them. It really helped us.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Well, the name of the book, Hell in Boots, clawing my way through Nine Lives. You can pre-order it now. Yes. Pre-order it now. You can pre-order it now. Comes out March 25th. And it'll just show up March 25th. It will, so make sure you fucking get it now, Jesus. You fucking get it now.
Starting point is 00:43:57 You fucking get it now, you see that? Look how great that cover is. It's a great cover. There was a different cover, but I was like, this is dog shit, so I'm like, we're gonna have to redo it, And I had this idea and I think it's much better. Thank you, sister. Also, where should we send people if they want to see what you're up to? Social media is this all Soraya S A R A Y A across the board, Twitter, TikTok, which
Starting point is 00:44:20 I'm really bad at TikTok, but Instagram and that and that's it. All right, I'm gonna be in San Diego April 11th and 12th, doing standup over there at the American Comedy Club, and then I'm on the road all over the place. You can go to AdamCrohler.com for all the live dates. What do you got, Drew? I know at DrDrew.com. So, what is it? Why does he leave the screen right there?
Starting point is 00:44:43 It's weird. Anyway, listen. I'm sitting right here. What is it? Why does he leave the screen right then? It's weird. Anyway, listen, I'm sitting right here. I know I know you didn't touch anything. It's weird because it's weird because you blacked out right when you left. All right. You said the website. So it's like he's in a hurry. All right. Till next time. This is Adam for Soraya. There you go. And Dr. Drew saying, Mahala. Podcasting isn't just about talking, it's about growing, engaging and monetizing. And that's where Podcast One Pro comes in.
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