The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Someone Shit In a Tree (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: March 10, 2025

The show opens with Drew raising concerns about people at the warehouse not following Adam's bathroom etiquette guidelines. They then turn to calls early in the show about schizophrenia medication, how to maintain a friendship with an ex after a divorce and the dangers of Adderall usage.

This is Corolla Digital. Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. No choice but to get it on. What's going on there, Drewsky? I got a little something. You know, your bathroom etiquette rules. Very simple. Super simple. Very clear. You think you're fucked up around here in extraordinary

ways. All the time. Really? All the time. Those are by outsiders. Maybe. Perhaps. Not my men. I train my men. Well, you've beaten your men in a submission. I understand that. But oftentimes, I'll for instance, oh Gary looks incredulous. Well, this is a new twist. New twist, I tell you. Let's be clear with the bathroom rules. Let's do that. Now, again, this does not apply in a lot of commercial applications that have pneumatic closers on their doors. But if it's a situation like what we have here, we have bathroom doors that do not close automatically.

So if the door is wide open, that is open for business, and enter with a skip in your step and a smile on your face. Expect no, nothing with it. No surprises. If the door is shut, that means occupied. This is a problem I've had for quite some time when let's say you're throwing a party and Somebody says where's the bathroom? That's down the hall to the right and you the door shut Yeah, you assume well the doors pulled shut now. I'm not talking a jar. I'm talking pulled latch shut

Well, somebody must be in there and then you don't want to knock on the door because you don't want to do the Excuse you No one's that yeah, plus I don't want to knock on the door because you don't want to do the Excuse you No one's that yeah, plus. I don't want to be on either end of that. I don't always I'm gonna be the guy on the pot I don't know the guy standing on the hallway. I don't and so they're good door closed occupied Door a jar just open about four or five inches Enter at your own risk and usually fart fan running, light on. So door jar light off, buyer beware, caveat emptor.

Door jar light on, fan on, prepare. Don't fucking go in there. What's that? There's no... I cannot make a fourth rung on this ladder. The door's ajar and the fart fan and the light is on. You will have to decide how long that door has been ajar with the fart fan on. Well I think somebody attempted don't fucking go in there this morning. And the door was shut and the light was on.

Nobody within. And I thought- Door was shut. light was on. Nobody within. And I thought- Door was shut. Yeah, completely. Nobody in. Nobody in. Fart fan on, light on. Oh, yeah.

That means the porcelain punisher either had Thai or Mexican. So I'm prepared. So I'm like, okay, I'm going in. Okay? And I thought, I was all prepared for, you know, a little action, right? All right, so you say you've created a fourth rung in this ladder, which is... The porcelain punisher had brought worse. So you've created a fourth rung... Sourcrust, yes or no? Yes.

Fourth rung in the ladder is door shut, no one in there, fan on. It's so brutal that even the four inches of daylight is four inches too much. That's right. Okay. But if you're going into that, you're on a combat mission. You expect a little action. It's like going into paintball territory or something. You're going in knowing something's going to go down.

It's a little action. Walked in, fucking sprayed that fucking pine mist all over the place. Almost threw up. And you were assigned a cadaver for how many years of your life? A year. A year? A year. You had a cadaver.

By the way. You had a cadaver. You owned a cadaver. You used to take it off her walks. That's nothing compared to the stuff that people used to spill on me and do on me in their lifetime. Yeah, right. Almost vomit. Now, hang on.

There was the faint nose bouquet of some good work. So here's... I mean, frankly, here's an interesting, rather than the pine. The pine with that was nauseating. They fucked up the whole thing. I was really mad. I was disappointed. All right.

So, here's a possibility. The possibility, when you destroy the workplace but no one is there to experience it then I think at that point you do want to go with the full door closed because nobody else is going to be able to use the bathroom because no one's there. So you go with the full door closed, you let the place clear out via the fart fan for between eight and 11 minutes and then you go back and do the ajar. Right. That's your civic duty.

Duty. But the point is you have to sort of keep track of things because it's easy to turn that fart fan on. See, my only problem is light on fart fan on and you've been sitting at your desk for 45 minutes, danger over. You got to get up and shut that thing down. It's part of your duty for 45 minutes, danger over. You got to get up and shut that thing down. It's part of your duty, part of your civic responsibility. But that fucking pine stuff,

especially it was so confusing and disorienting. And again, faint remnant of some decent words. What we need is, and we're getting there because we're doing a lot of it now where it's like you know there's a all this this thing a foot of you know this this Cindy Crawford photographed without makeup at age 42 you know everyone's doing this thing where they're going bare and they're doing it as is here's the ingredients basically we should do air fresheners you know the spray that instead of smelling like lilacs or pine, just smells like less ass. Yeah, just sort of neutralizes.

It still smells like ass. Let's, let's, let's not. By the way, it wasn't like the shit smell was gone. There's something like someone's shit in a tree. Well what I'm saying is, you didn't think that you walked into a greenhouse where people were making strawberries. You understand you're walking into a shit. If they could have done that, that would have been fine.

No, but they can't. They can't. That's the point. The point is you're walking into a closet where people shit. That's what it is. It's a closet where people shit. That's what it is. It's a closet where people shit. So you know, your expectation level's not that high. I was anticipating action.

Right. Combat. I was going, I could have gone to the other bathroom. I was going in for some combat. There should be a spray freshener that's basically just called hot chick farted. Where it's like, it would be like what comes out of a hot chick? Like when a hot chick farts and you go, yeah, she's human, but she's hot. Like, it's not that bad. I kind of enjoy it. It's a little sexual.

But the pine is confusing and it's probably confusing to your reptilian brain too because like why is this shit smell like pine or daisies or whatever it is. But there couldn't be a more disappointing confusing kind of experience when you're going in for combat. It's one thing if it could have been neutralized, one thing could have been in a flora shop. That would have been fine. But that mix? No, no. And it's your people.

Well, that's got to be the porcelain punisher, yeah? The bratwurst eating, sauerkraut eating pork. Oh, looks a little guilty. Do you want to get? No, I wouldn't. All right. So, now what's your your beef pardon the pun? What would you like him to do?

My beef is I would like them to have first of all, don't give a damn if they don't fucking go in there. If it's really not, don't fucking go in there. He should have gone back and cracked the door. Number one, they screwed that up. Number two, be proud. Don't spray the plant. You don't need to spray?

All right, well he's being conscious of other people. It's in the men's bad. Put that in the women You don't need to spray? All right. Well, it's being conscious of other people. Yeah, but it's in the men's bad. Put that in the women's bad. That's fine. All right. I'm surprised that those fart fans don't pull out a little more than they do. You know what I mean? They should move a little more air.

Your people are pretty... There's a lot there, but in terms of cubic feet, there's just not that much there. Right. They should be able to move that all out. After eight minutes, yeah. It gets onto the wall or something. I don't know what's going on with some of your people.

You know, but you're bringing up some interesting points here, which is, you know, they have coatings. You know, I wonder. Like obviously, another bad- Anti-fart paint? Coatings? Well, now hold on. I'll give you an example. What if?

Hold on. What if? They have anti-fungal paints. Ah. Like, they put a mildew additive in your bathroom paint. Right. The additives you put in so you don't get mildew. You don't get moss growing in the shower. Every bathroom ceiling should head up like a cathedral.

But, you know, all four corners sort of move up into the fart fan, which sits in the middle. Right. And everything that goes... So, I think there's a better way of doing that. There's also... I just thought of this, but the fart fan should come down the wall like a ducted vent system, be right behind the toilet. I mean, it just suck it right out. Don't let it get up to nose level when you walk it out. Yeah, but you're assuming it.

It may be denser than air. You're assuming it goes up. Again, with this crew. Well, all the more reason to drop it down. Yeah. Both up and down. We should heat the floor. We should create a warm air vortex.

I'm going to have like a tornado inside my bathroom. But there's ways to do it. You know what we need to do? Let's get that guy with the fake English accent from Dyson. Oh yeah, Mr. Dyson. Mr. Dyson, when that guy talks to me about his vacuums or his hand knife, whatever it is, his air knife or whatever,

when that guy starts talking to me about filtration and vacuums and vortexes, I get a boner. He seems so much better than me. You know what I mean with his accent everything right? He's an engineer Yeah, and that guy has made a gazillion dollars with his vacuums And then he brought it into the bathroom with that air knife thing where you dry your hands. Oh, right? That's awesome Yeah, let's get that guy under the ass game. You know what I'm saying saying we need that we never there he'll probably put it right on the toilet he'll do something yeah oh he'll do it never escape the John he will solve that problem why isn't he on that James Dyson yeah yeah he's he's awesome I suspect that guys like the world's most interesting man. He's some actor

You know the guy on TV. Yeah, it's all Feinberg's a guy really did the engineering, but he's portly and has male pattern baldness You know what I mean? I've got a great It's got a great Great English accent to get up there and tell you about suction and corners and balls He has things on a big ball now of suction and corners and balls. He has things on a big ball now. Hey, it's Adam Kroll from the Adam Kroll Show. BetOnline is the world's most trusted betting platform and your number one source for online betting

from the earliest odds to in-game live betting. BetOnline provides you with all the action and the ability to watch and bet on games as they happen with the largest selection of odds on everything from football, NBA, college basketball as well. BetOnline has NHL, MMA, and championship boxing all your betting needs in one place. Head to BetOn online today to get in on the action with America's most trusted site for online wagering. So have some fun, make these games and these events and these combat sports a little more interesting with

bet online. Bet online, the game starts here. All right, where were we gonna take some calls already? All right. Why not? Let's see. It's what shows about. That's why I do it. I was you talking about. It's about helping people. Allison. Hi, Adam. Hi, Dr. Drew. 42 Washington. What's going on? Well, this is a question for Dr. Drew, but Adam, I always appreciate your input. I am a nurse in an inpatient facility for adolescent with mental and behavioral health disorders. Yes, and it's good time.

And we have right now a couple of kiddos who obviously under the 1820 mark where schizophrenia is generally you know dialed in as a diagnosis formally but a lot of you know schizophrenic behaviors and it's a conversation we have a lot at work amongst ourselves about treating schizophrenia medically or with psychopharmacology versus kind of treating some of the other mental health things that we see like the OCD and the ODD and things of that nature. Yeah. And the question?

So I was just curious as to Dr. Drew's opinion. I know he's worked in mental health a very long time. And what his opinion is on that and added before your commentary. I'd like to get zero in clearer on the question. So you're talking about you're in a locked adolescent unit, right? We are.

So children, I don't know the first thing about psychotropics in children, so I'm going to stay out of that completely. Adolescents, you're asking, you said there are character issues like oppositional defiance disorders, there's anxiety issues, and obsessive-compulsive disorder, and you're saying the people are clear those should not be treated with medication or should be treated with medication? No. My question is should those type of symptoms do you think be treated with medication and

hold off on the schizophrenia thing as they obviously haven't hit that? Well, but then you add a third thing, which is these psychotic symptoms. Oh, yeah. Talking to their French fries and their mac and cheese. Yeah. symptoms and oh yeah and psychotic stuff in adolescence can be so complicated it could end up being bipolar it could be some developmental biological issue it can be what are they gonna find it not a cure but I saw my schizophrenic brother-in-law last weekend yeah and first things first he, you know, he's sort of

normal now because he's not wearing fucked up hats. Oh, look at that. Stop wearing hat choice. That's how they, crazy people don't know how to wear hats. They, he would wear, like, it's craziest thing ever, but he would show up in these UCLA hats that were like balled up and fucked up and it looked like somebody set it down on top of his head. Look, first it looked like somebody wet it and then ran over it and then set it down on his head, but it would always be... And you could always kind of tell the crazy by the hair and the hat. And at a certain point, I cleaned out my hat closet because I get a bunch of free hats,

you know, and I said, here's some real hats. Just put them on normally like a cap. People, at least they won't be able to tell your nuts from outer space if you wear the hat normally. It's also one of these things too where it is a weird component where you're sitting down with family members and no one goes, hey, take that thing, shake it out, or here's eight bucks, go get a new one, go down the foot locker and get one that pulls up and sits nicely and looks sort of normal.

Strangely about schizophrenia is they end up sort of recreating whatever that little style is that they fell into. They always end up doing that. What is the part, interesting, which is you're a little bit nutty, but you thus must look nutty. Like go to the barber. The barber doesn't have a nutty haircut. It's not like the fade, the bouffant, the Dorothy Hamill, the schizophrenic. They don't have a nutty.

You could get a normal haircut. They have trouble with self-care, including anything and things like that. They lose insight. They lose insight into what's going on with them emotionally, how messed up their thinking is, and how they look. I'm always kind of curious though why the people in their circle don't correct it. Don't go like, here's eight bucks for the super cuts. Go down and get that thing, and let's just do that once a month.

Let's just every. They resist it and they just sort of burn out on trying to get that done. But I the bottom line is. Before you hang up. What's that Elson. Real quick I just wanted to say I listened to Love Line since way back in the day and the analogy you guys made with the wet cement the brain being the wet cement and you don't want to fuck with that too much before it has a chance to dry with drugs, little dusting

of the one station as Adam would say. I've used that analogy a million times in what I do, day to day with coworkers, parents, kids even and it's so perfect and I get told that a lot. That is like the perfect analogy. That is absolutely perfect. Don't thank Drew for that. That's Adam's. That's mine. No, I I get told that a lot. That is like the perfect analogy. That is absolutely perfect. Don't thank Drew for that. That's Adam's. No, I won't take credit for that.

But I don't know. Anything metaphorical is Adam's. Drew. Don't thank Drew for that. Of course. Of course. OK. But the bottom line of what you're saying is,

I don't have a strong opinion. I'm not an adolescent psychiatrist. And so I worked around that a lot. And sometimes you're desperate to manage kids, and medicines are your only option. And so certainly there it becomes appropriate. Obviously... Well, then it becomes a court order issue. Yeah. And obviously, you'd prefer to be able to put everybody in sort of behavioral management

and sort of engage in some kind of talk therapy. But it's just not at all possible in many situations. And I was listening to a lecture the other day about Prozac and how when it came on, the incidence of suicide dropped dramatically in adolescents. Then it became clear the drug company had suppressed some of the data about suicidal thinking in adolescents on Prozac. So this black block warning came out, all the adolescents were taken off Prozac, and suicide rate went way up again, especially in boys. And then it went back down again when people started

getting prescribed again. So when you look at data like that, it's like, well, these things can really save people's lives. It's hard to argue with stuff like that. But we're geared in a way that says, I mean, here's how we're all wired. You know, DDT comes out and it's going to eradicate these pests and then the farmers are going to be happy. And then some bald eagles get sick because the DDT gets into the water and the fish, they get into

the fish and then the bald eagle dies and we go get rid of the DDT and then we get a bunch of mosquitoes, we get a bunch of malaria and we get a bunch of dead Africans. And so we did save a couple of eagles but we lost a few million Africans. So we look at that as by the way, somehow progress, but it's really just, to me it's always just a body count. Like there's no, it's hard to come up with things that are free, other than simple green. Everything pretty much comes with a little baggage attached to it. The laws of unintended effect. When I was in college, the big thing was we're choking off our ecosystems with the phosphates

and stuff that are coming off of the fertilizers and the pesticides. So Monsanto came along and incorporated all these things in the genomes. Don't got to use those things anymore. Now everyone's freaking out about the genetically engineered food and the nutrient count. It just keeps going. It keeps going. Well, it speaks, it whispers to dumb people. You know, they go, first off, there's this part where you go, you're mussing with nature. And we have this incredible duality with mussing with nature. Like, there's a part of us, and it's the same people by the way, the same people that are for stem

cell research are not for messing with the genetics of a piece of corn. Do you know what I'm saying? It's kind of interesting. On one hand, you're all for stem cell research, which I dig. I'm for it too. And let's research this in. We can see if we can figure out and grow a new liver for this guy and whatever it is. But by the same token, I'd like the botanist at Caltech to figure out what to do with the

food source. Food. Not me. Not me. The botanist at Caltech. Yeah, but are you for science or are you not for science? You know what I mean? Do you want to play God or do you not want to play God? Well, but it goes into this weird place where the, oh evil companies are misusing science and they may be I don't know Well, all I know is it seems like it starts as a well-intended sort of attempt to make things better This thing where it's like we're losing half the crop to this aphid

so, let's see if we can engineer something that this aphid doesn't like. And next thing you know, you have a tomato that the aphid doesn't take care of. And then people go, oh, but that's genetically engineered. Well, everything's genetically engineered now. I mean, listen, everything, your carpet, that didn't grow on your fucking floors, it came out of a factory and somebody installed it. You know what I mean? And it's not lamb's wool. It's made of something that DuPont

made or makes or some other big company made. What I find intriguing is the folks that go with the nutrients are gone from food are the same people taking fistfuls of vitamins every day because, well, not because there's no nutrients in your food. It's just that's just what you do but look and confused look you're confused by these things I know you're well you and I are very much we're into reality and we're also into the you know where people go you know for me you know they go if if one innocent person is put to death it's worth a thousand you know, they go, if one innocent person is put to death, it's worth a thousand, you know, murders put to death. I'm like, no, I'll take that one person. I understand that's

the way it goes. I mean, there are going to be test pilots that are lost when we're trying to develop aircraft. There's always going to be a downside to the free, you know, there's always going to be a downside to the to the free you know there's no free lunches like I mean you want you know if you want abundant reliable power you want to flip a switch and have your lights go on and better yet at the hospital you want that ventilator on all the time you want food you want food you want food every day I mean every we were growing up it was the world was gonna starve to death remember? Yeah, so I got solved by the genetic engineering thing right but a few eagles may die In the quest to you in humanity, but here's being fed But here's my line with that like I'm not fine with that. Let's solve that but let's not be

Beside let's not like freak out and throw the baby out with the bath water Well the problem yes the problem was solving it is ban DDT, now proliferation of mosquitoes, now millions of dead Africans. So you didn't solve it, you yanked the plug. That's my point. I'd rather people just go, hey, let's figure this out. Let's solve that problem as opposed to making it, again, a cartoon story. The mass thinking is so much about cartoons.

It's a good pirate and a bad pirate, and that's it. Right, right. Yeah. I mean, it's right up there with silicone breast implants. Remember that hysteria? Hysteria. Remember the one who was saying, it's not that, these are nutty broads? And they're back.

Now you can have them again. Well, you should have never been gone. But yet, they're leeching into the system and blah, blah, blah. That's why this crazy broad who had a bunch of plastic surgery was feeling tired in the morning or depressed. True. Anything but the truth. Really?

But here's my final point of this. Is that everybody, please, and I'm not saying ignore these things we're kind of making fun of. Pay attention. But then be very careful with whom you listen to as the person that's going to solve that problem. They should be working at Caltech or MIT. Or Harvard.

That's it. Otherwise, do not listen. Because... Oh, hold on. Or Jenny McCarthy. They have to be a playmate. Yeah, that that of course. People don't know how to look at the training and stuff. We have to figure that out. That's

the scary part for me. Listen, micro, macro, Drew, I say to people all the time, we listen to Caltech guy or MIT guy and then, Ooh, Jenny McCarthy's on Oprah. Let's hear her opinion on vaccinations. Right. She gets the same valence. She gets the same status. It's a little more, more, maybe a little bit more. But journalists do this too.

And that's what drives me. And that's what drives me insane. There are people whose opinion we should listen to and people's whose opinion you opinion you can you can they should have a right to give the opinion. I have no problem with that but you you know listen and then go back to the sources that are legitimate. Listen I have been going that in a micro level. I've been doing this for the last 15-20 years of my life which is I understand how to be successful, now listen to me. And friends, family, you know, things like that, I get a lot of, all right, blowhard, are you done?

Because I got my own way. But your way involves an apartment that you've been living in for 14 years and a pickup truck that's been gathering dust on one of my warehouses. So why do you want to do it your way? Why not listen to the MIT guy over here? Now I don't have answers like they have at MIT. I just do understand certain things. You have a pedigree.

You can... I have an experience. ...experience will track record, yeah. And that experience will help you go from wherever you are to wherever you would like to be. The answer is I got my own way of doing things. I've stood back and looked at your own way of doing things. It's not an effective way of doing things.

I don't know why. As far as society goes, society is not interested in pointing that out at all. Well, not only that, I'm just realizing that I'm just thinking about the guys at MIT and the real institutions of real scientists who shit I read. They didn't know how to put their shit out in the media so people can digest it. They have no idea. Jane McCarthy knows how to put it out there. Oh, yeah.

Those guys don't know how... That's the one thing she's good at. They don't know how to put it out there. It's like everyone we need to know. No, but what I'm interested in, here's what I'm interested in. And it's why, you know, look, said it once, said it again. Say it again. I'll say it again. I did that, probably never brought it up on the air before, but I won that Toyota Grand Prix. Huh?

Yes. What is this thing you speak of? It's a race, a celebrity race. I'd done it two times, and I'd not been as successful as I would have liked to have been. Not the first two times, and then I never stopped. But the point is this. point assist. What I did is before the third one, which I wanted to win, I called my friend Tanner Faust. He's a professional driver. He drives Rallycross, he drives in X Games. He drove in the Pro Division when I drove and he was very fast.

This is named made up. His name is Tanner Faust and he's fast And he's a good guy and he's a good friend. And I called him up and he was doing you know Fast and Furious 6 or whatever at the time. And I said Tanner I want to get around that track faster this year. You're not doing the race but I'm doing the race and I want you to tell me what it's going to take to get around that track faster. And he then told me here's what you're going to take to get around that track faster. And he then told me, here's what you're going to do. And I listened to every fucking word he said. I'm curious, what kind of stuff did they tell you?

Just, you know, break later at the end of the second straight because there's a lot of rubber laid down because that's where the drifters do their exhibition. So the drift cars would do their exhibition. They would lay down a bunch of rubber on the track, They're literally burning their tires and laying it on the track. Very sticky. A lot of traction. Everyone else is going to break early, break late, go inside. You'll be fine on that corner. Stuff like that. Interesting. And I said,

righty-o. And I passed a bunch of people in that corner. And then I won the race. But I didn't say, hey man, you're not the boss of me, and hey, that's the way you drive. Well, I drive this way. I wanted to win, so I sought out the advice of somebody that was better than me at what this was that I wanted to accomplish. Sometimes it's specific, like driving a car. Other times it's life, fucking idiots. So step back. First thing I did to get

successful, I found successful people and said, what are you doing? How do we do this? It wasn't all this, I got my own way of doing things. No, no. I've seen your way. It's not a good way. So I want to get around the track faster. So I talked to someone who's good at it. And he told me what to do. And I did exactly what he told me to do. Now, if Tanner was going to launch a career doing standup, then he should probably come talk to me.

And I would give him a few helpful tips on how to do that. You see? And if he were smart, he wouldn't go, well, I'm good at driving, so I'll be good at telling jokes. He would seek out the advice of someone that was good at telling jokes. Why we don't understand that and why it's like a really honesty, it's like, hey, buddy, I drive the way I drive and you can't tell me you're any better the way you drive and the way, and then people get involved.

Hey, let him drive the way he wants to drive. That's the way he drives. You can't change the way he drives. No, no He's doing two seconds a lap better than you are drive like him Don't drive like you and then everyone jumps in you can't tell someone to drive It's a lot of this you shouldn't be able to tell the person what drive just because it works for him Doesn't mean it's gonna work for you Everyone drives a little bit differently and we're all created a little bit. We all have our special driving abilities. We're all special drivers Fuck that shit. This guy's getting around a lot faster than I was and I want to know why and how and I wanted to mimic him

That's what I did. I don't understand competitive man. We shouldn't have competition Are you looking for your next case? Pluto TV has all your favorite crime drama streaming for free You're gonna need some backup which means suspense is free very cool watch CSI New York criminal minds blue bloods tracker FBI And swap all for free you can't outrun this someone's gonna pay for all this crime But it's not gonna be you. Take care of business, fellas. Watch all the cases, all for free, from all your favorite devices. We got you. Feel the free. Pluto TV. Stream now. Pay never. As long as I was gonna do it, let's talk to someone who knows what they're doing. And

I'm saying if you live in an apartment and this guy has five houses and you would like a house feel free to listen to him right that's all that's all I'm saying and as a society let's get on the side of the guy with the houses who's explaining to the guy not jump in all the time and make excuses because there's people that just intervene all the time and they'll do anything from, well, you know, chets, chet, and he's kind of set in his ways. Shut up. And then there's the, well, you know, what works for you doesn't always have to, I hate these people.

What works for you isn't always, no, no, it works for me. It'll work for them by and large, 99% of the time. When they do the, and that's just your method. That's not his. I know he has no method. His method is zero method. I'm trying to give him method. What is this Drew?

And then why do you become some sort of preachy douchebag when you go, look, here's what you do. Here's what I need you to do. You're gonna whoa, man Whoa, I think it's two things one is Your advice would be to be entrepreneurial and not a lot of people are constructed in such way they can tolerate that They kind of have to have a salary and a structure My thing my thing comes down to They kind of have to have a salary and a structure. My thing comes down to where's your tape measure?

It's in the truck. They make little leather things, little holsters. You put them on your belt, snap, tape measure. You have it with you at all times. So that's the guy that needs a supervisor at a paycheck. I told you to do it. It's fine, but I told you go have your tape measure on you. You have no consequence.

You can't like, hey man. Consequence is your apartment. No, I understand. That's life. That's entrepreneurial. No, it's not entrepreneurial. It is. I understand you don't experience it.

No, no. Ray works for himself. I mean, if you want to get specific. Well, maybe he needs to be an employee. Maybe better for him. Because remember, when you offered him entrepreneurial stuff here, he wanted a salary. Remember? Yeah, no, no. Look, I understand all of this. What I don't understand is when somebody who has success and I love that about if Mark Cuban said I want to come down here I want to see your operation and I'm going to I want to give you a couple

of some notes I wouldn't be like hey man I'd be like I'd say that you know make sure the place is clean and get let's get a notepad and I'm all ears now there might be a couple things I disagreed with or I didn't think were realistic, but there could be a couple good break late at the end of that second straightaway, a lot of rubber laid down. I would be nothing but fucking ears, but I would not be, hey, you don't come in here in front of my people and talk to me. So there's the other, I said there was two parts, it's the second part, which is that people sort of resist authority, feel diminished

when somebody else has something that you don't. They get envious and they can't. You know, all that stuff. Right. Well, the first- And that's not good. That is not good at all. Well, that's all- no, diminished.

Yeah. That's all point. Here's what being diminished is, coming in fifth place. That's diminishing. That feels diminished. So when I call Tanner, I come from a point of, I am a lesser person, lesser driver than you. And I would like to not come in fifth place. So the first point you're going to do

is, I will admit freely that you're better at this than I am. I wonder if people with good self-esteem would have trouble doing that, because you and I don't even know what that feels like. You know what I mean? Well, one could argue about the good self-esteem would have trouble doing that because you and I don't even know what that feels like. You know what I mean? One could argue about the ultimate self-esteem, which is I want to be on the top of that podium spraying champagne. Yeah, but the flip side of this is because I know I can't.

I'm a piece of shit, so I've got to rely on someone to help me do this. To me, it's just very pragmatic. I realize that I am better than what my results have been. I'm a better driver than the results of my last two races, and I want to be better. I understand. Listen, I'm in your headspace. I'm trying to imagine somebody else's. Here's the good news with everyone else's headspace.

You don't need your own headspace. Use mine. That's as I like to say. Don't do, Gary, what I say to you when you said you'll do your best. Do my best. How blowhard is that? That's about as high off the chain as you get. Yeah, but you want Gary Fultar doing his best? I wouldn't mind that. No, but would you rather him do your best? My head doesn't work like that. I would rather do his best. His best is not very good.

Then I'd rather do my best. Do your best. Okay. That's right. If I know his best is not very good, then I'd rather do my best. That's the only time I bring it up. I'm just saying we drew, as a society, the first thing we did is we decided everyone was special.

And when you're special, you're the one who's special. So what are you taking advice from Tanner Faust or professors, MIT guys for? You're special. What are you listening to them for? And then the second thing we did is we said, you don't listen to people. You follow your heart. Your gut in your heart.

You know if you know in your heart that what you're doing right is right, then you're covered. These are all things that are just trap doors that lead you into a pit of an unsuccessful life. The other really disturbing part of all that is that then you look for people that corroborate or amplify your point of view. And you don't really look at their training and their background and their science. You just look at, do they resonate with my gut? Whether you're talking about childhood vaccinations

or you're just talking about apartment dwellers, there's many, you can find many comrades, many, many. And then they get together and they go, who's that dick think he is? He's talking down to you. That's bullshit. Who's Tanner Faust think he is telling us how to drive? You don't know shit. Then you start making up stories. I'll bet you his dad owned a driving school.

Well, but no, something concrete like driving doesn't apply. Yeah. It's your blowhardiness that gets judged. What I'm trying to say to people, and then we're going to hop back to the phones here, get ready with stamps.com. Yeah, I'm ready. What I'm saying is this. Driving on the Long Beach Grand Prix track is very concrete.

That's what I'm saying. The concrete stuff is hard. Understood. No, no. It's easier for people to get on, right? Yeah, it's true. This is as concrete. They can't wrap their minds around it, but I will tell you how you can have more success

in your life. But I think, here's the difference. I think things like, because I have an academic background, it seems that these sorts of things seem that matter of fact to me, just the way your sort of experiential life in business seems that matter of fact to you. People that don't have those experiences? Absolutely not. They don't have that perspective.

No, I know. So who are you? So who are you? No, it's the same with- There's no driving, there's no racetrack that you got around faster, so fuck you. It's psychology versus engineering. You know people understand engineering. They do not understand you explaining psychology to them or that can be rejected. Right. Biological systems are much more difficult people to

get their heads around. And they don't want to believe that they're that. They want to be special souls and things you know. Right. Yeah. Nice. Alright. Speaking of special. Yeah. Stamps.com dot com yeah that's right i went to post office dropped off a letter yesterday and it drove me insane because i thought well i should never do this that's my stamps from stamps dot com right i should ask them for special pick up

but it was a holiday well i dropped one of my wife was anxious so i dropped it off but my stamps was from stamps.com. Buy and print official U.S. postage from your own computer and printer. You don't need one of those, what are those things called? Postage meters? Postage meters. Think of the past.

500,000 customers have sent 2 billion letters and packages with stamps.com. That's billion with an M, people. Special offer, no risk trial, $110 bonus offer including a digital scale so you can determine exactly what the specific postage should be for everything. I always love that. And this is the part that I love and I can't even get my head around. $55 pre postage. How's that work? You sign up, they give you $55. That's what that is. That's how it works. I mean everyone uses postage, $55. That's what that is. Everyone uses Postage, $55. But you have to enter ADS, go to Stamps.com now, click the microphone at the top of the homepage, type in ADS Stamps.com promo code

ADS. All right. Let's talk to Anthony 44. Anthony? Hello. What's going on, my friend? Thanks for taking my call. Longtime listener, first time caller. My pleasure. What's happening? Well, I was in a relationship for almost 10 years with my ex-wife and we were dating and then we were married for 5 years. And things at the end didn't get really, they were kind of hard.

We ended up filing for divorce on our 5th anniversary and after a little bit of counseling it just wasn't working. But now we're, it's been a few years and we're really good friends and I find myself, you know, we're closer and things were both much happier. We're both much more successful. I think we were, we were both sort of unemployed and having a hard time in the first round. And I find myself wanting to get back together with her. Should I just let this go and just be friends with her or should I seriously think about this because we're more mature and

Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. Do you have kids? No kids. I had a vasectomy Okay, you have trouble getting a vasectomy without kids? Um, it was hard. Yes took me a couple times like and he would have been in like when you're 30s when you got it Um, yeah, yeah late 33. Yeah, so it's a little easier than okay. Um I have two schools of thought here. One is if you don't have kids, kind of do what you want. I mean, that's my thing in life. On the other hand, you broke up, you kind of broke up for a reason. And I feel like this is almost adolescence. This feels like junior high and high school brought

into midlife. If you have no kids and you're divorced and Anthony, I'm wondering what you're doing because... He's old to be doing this. You're old to be doing it and if you were a successful guy and you're 44 right in the middle of everything, you'd think, you know what? I got no kids. I got divorced. You divorced you know I'm gonna have some fun with some 23 year old cocktail waitresses for a year or two when I burn out on that and I'll find someone who's age-appropriate and start a new life but I think I'm a little burnt out on that like you're saying I have been doing that past few years oh you're not with the younger women in that and it's been fun but yeah I think

it's a little over that what do you do are you successful uh... i i i was uh... i'm i'm currently you're my own thing i'm i'm up podcasting and i'm working at the script that i'm writing for some people it's that's been that's a that's a fun thing and i'm able to i'm i'm doing okay it's just uh... uh... i don't know what i like that it doesn't sound to put the fact that

that i don't know in between that yet but i have a say do you have your own house you drive what what kind of car you drive it i'm a renter i don't have a car but the most look at a select smug douche what do

but here it goes Look, I don't want to sound like a smug douche. You do. Go ahead. But here it goes. If I had no kids and Lynette and I got divorced and I was 44, I'd be like, I'm going to take my jag and I'm going to head down to Sunset and I'm going to have some fun for a while, you know, and then I'm going to see if I can get some chicks up here for a nice jacuzzi in my nice big empty house You know what I'm saying? So I kind of it's it's sort of my George Clooney theory of life where it's like he must be sad that no No, no, no, he's not

He's not cuz he's on he's on his next cocktail waitress and he's not looking back. You see what I'm saying? So when I see a dude who is in Anthony's position and kind of pining for the past, I see a dude without... I was going to say, forget about... I want to know if he's driving a Taurus. You know what I mean? If this guy's driving a convertible Porsche and he's got a nice house up in the can you know? Are there's no house and he's renting and no I mean sorry no no car and he's a renter I'm just I'm wondering honestly a

You answer me this question, this is interesting if I got you a Let's just go with one of those Audi TTs, sporty little Audi, fun little car. Yeah, chicks like that car. And I got you a place, nice place up on top of the hill in Silver Lake. Deck, view of the city, jacuzzi built into the deck. Huh? I'm listening. Would you get back together with this lady? Or want to, or would you just want to kind of live your bachelor, Hollywood, hillside lifestyle? Or find somebody else. Or find somebody else.

That's a good question. I think I would still like to get back together with this woman. Alright. Well then, then there's your answer. That's my answer. I think I would still like to get back together with this one. All right. Well, then there's your answer. That's my answer. Although I'm concerned though, your reason for falling apart was that things weren't going well in your careers. And it sounds like you're sort of in the same state again.

You've got a podcast going. Again. And as such, I worry about those kinds of stressors coming to bear again. That's all I'm saying. So look really carefully at what broke you up in the first place and make sure that A, those issues aren't going to come out again, whatever they were interpersonally, and B, whatever circumstantial issues there are, aren't going to cause too much stress again and screw you guys up again.

All right. Geez. I think I look at my kids and I think about divorce and I think, oh my God, how could you do that to your kids? Right? Right? Yes. I wouldn't even-

But how can you let people think, hey, man, it's no big deal. They can handle it. They're fine with it. I had a woman saying that the other day and she goes, look, I'm just not happy with my husband. She gets her friend, her son is nine years old. And he's like, I want daddy, I don't want you guys to break up.

She goes, listen, we're really not happy together, son. Do you want me not happy? And he goes, why is your happiness more important than mine? Wow. I thought, wow. There it is. He missed it.

I'll have to advise him next time. But there it is. We put the parent's happiness ahead of kids' developmental progress and well-being. Let's be clear. It's their ability to have healthy relationships later and feel good about themselves. They can do fine in life. They can succeed in quotations, but their emotional landscape and their interpersonal lives are deeply affected. I don't care what anybody says.

Yeah. I mean, look, I was thinking about my parents getting divorced where they didn't... They gave what you call a soft launch to their divorce, which is my dad trickled down the street into his mother-in-law's house to set up camp in their den because they live in a one-bedroom. We have to go through the bedroom to get to the bathroom. So it was again it was a soft launch divorce so he he just rambled down the street literally down the street about a mile and set up shop over there and then he sat there for some period of time until eventually,

I think they said, we can't take a 42 year old guy. We can't take you in grandpa's room. That's that's the house had a small kitchen, smaller bathroom, a bedroom, a living room that no one used. And then a den that was grandpa's room where he was set up on the sofa. You can only imagine what it was like for them. But by the way, fuck your daughter over, this is who she marries. So nice job. Anyway, he floated down the street, he set up camp, he bivouacked in Grandpappy's den for about six months.

Eventually, I think they had to tell him to move he reminds me a lot of Gone with the Wind where he relies on the generosity of others. Streetcar named Desire. Sorry, wrong movie. Yeah streetcar named Desire. He relies heavily on the generosity but he was told you know you got to move it on and then he drifted down Laurel Canyon, got himself a one bedroom apartment, but there was never anything to whack up or anything. So now as a kid, this felt very soft launchy in the divorce department because it's not like I've met another woman, we're moving to Florida. Here's your step. Here's your stepbrothers and sisters. There sort of drifted to my grandparents' house. He was still kind of in the family.

There was still a family. I lived at my grandparents' house half the time. So now dad was just camped on the sofa, which all seemed very normal. What was he doing for a living? Corolla. He headed up Beatrice, which is a Fortune 500 company that makes a lot of... They make products you know. You've not heard of Beatrice, which is a Fortune 500 company that makes a lot of... They make products you know.

You've not heard of Beatrice, but they make all... No, he... Fuck it. I don't know. Substitute school teacher, something. Whatever it was, he didn't have the shekels to... I just wonder what it was even. How do you even have a life living in the den like that?

He drove a Volkswagen bug and he lived in the den and I guess he did some substitute school teaching but not a ton of it evidently. So then he drifted down the street and then it was this is kind of 60-40 or 50-50 split which is sort of back and forth to mom and dad but there was never any step parents and there's never any step siblings. And that's that mom eventually No, I know but when I'm talking about the soft launch I see we've gotten years into it before any step anything showed up, right?

And when my stepdad showed up, he showed up, you know carrying one of those pan am bags like he didn't have Forget about kids Divorces anything he had a pan am bag full of baggage I know I don't remember that like I don't think he owned anything okay so he had an apartment in like Van Nuys that I think he wants oh is it like primal scream right there that's right Ray found out about so for me there was no, the divorce was like, yeah, who cares? Like I just remember you two losers have been separated. This is like somebody breaking up a bum fight with a hose.

You bum go over there, you bum go over there. That was kinda it, same crappy house, added a crappy apartment, no money, no arguing, no other people, no lovers taken, nobody moved. No chaos. No chaos. Well, the ultimate non-chaos, the ultimate chaos, nothing. But I just drifted.

But I couldn't imagine selling the house, moving out of state, here's your new step, here's three stepbrothers now, that kind of stuff. It's insane. Yeah, here's three step brothers now, you know, that kind of stuff. Insane. Yeah, it's insane. Couldn't picture. Imagine having that conversation with the kids. I'm going to be moving out. I mean, it's a shram. Just doing my own thing in Florida, man. All right, let's see. Shane. Shane. Hey, what's going on, guys? What's happening? Really appreciate you guys taking my call. Our pleasure. So my question is primarily for Dr. Drew. Pertains to Adderall and I was prescribed Adderall recently by my physician.

But you know, I hear so many negative things in the media. What kind of doctor is your physician? Well, I went to my primary care and then I was tested through a psychologist who then referred me to a psychiatrist who prescribed me the Adderall. Why would you get the Adderall? It's ADD, ADHD. When would you take it? I was supposed to take it in the morning, but it was supposed to last every day.

Xaneral XR extended release. So I haven't taken it yet because I'm kind of afraid to because I hear so many negative things through word of mouth and the media. What do you hear? What do you hear? Well, you hear things like, well, oh my God, it's basically like taking cocaine. You know, there's some people who, you know, get really, really addicted to it. They can't stop.

They can't function without it. There's also like people who say, well, if you have some kind of a heart condition, you can have a heart attack and die. I mean, you know, I know in Canada they put it on recall for a while. Well, hold on a second. I mean, yeah, you're up in your head, Shane, but let's talk about this for a second. Somebody tweeted me, you know. You know, when I tell people, well, there's two things people tweet me.

One is they tweet me that turns out, you know, exercise and movement or whatever is the same as blah, blah, blah in the work, in the depression world. Then other people tweet me and they go, look, when you're depressed, depressed, you can't get up and do 20 pushups every morning. It's called depression. And I understand that. You and I are trying to reach is the truth. And there's a lot of gray area.

We talk about this all the time. You get labeled this, you get labeled that. There's a kind of depression that is in the marrow of your bones, it's clinical, and you can't get up in the morning and you need medication. And then there's a kind that would be gone the second you enlisted in the Marine Corps. Let's look at it that way. If we enlisted you in the Marine Corps, I don't care how depressed you are, some guy with a mountie hat on would come in and he'd start banging a trash can with a wooden spoon at 545 every morning and next thing you know you'd be climbing a cargo net and I don't know when you'd be

depressed but you'd be up and you'd be running. And that's the way it works. work. So I would ask a 23 year old who's up in his head about this, try that life. I mean, try the diet. Look, I don't do it myself. Don't get me wrong. But what I'm saying is this. Wouldn't you say to your child, or would you say to your child, who said, I'm having, I'm experiencing some depression. By the way, there should be episodes of your life when you're not feeling as good about yourself as you could because that's the ebb and flow. You get dumped by your girlfriend, you're supposed to feel depressed. Not for a year, but certainly for that weekend.

And one's beyond, not George Clooney but beyond that so wouldn't you say to your child let's do this or this is what I would want for my job I would say let's take it easy on the on the processed food let's take it easy on the shit let's get you eat right and let's get you moving and let's see how you feel in three weeks well how about we talk to a psychologist? And that too. Yeah. But let's not pop a pill.

But be realistic that there may be done carefully and gently. Just let's run for a pill is my thing. And it's interesting. Mike Catharine, the guy I do Loveline with, does a lot of work in therapy and in 12, so it really works on himself. And finally got in the hands of a guy who said, you know, you just shit loads of hallucinogens and ecstasy. You damaged part of your mood center.

I think that this and that would make a big difference. He got on it life changing. But that's a guy who would not have done without the psychological work and the recovery, could not have done without that, and must continue that. But done properly, the medicines can really be important. But ADD particularly scares me in adults because all my drug addicts have ADD. And so when I hear ADD as a notable, I just hear drug addict. So his concern is well placed.

He needs to be sure that he himself has never been addicted to anything, that there's no first-to-be relatives with addiction, and that he really had formal psych testing, neuropsych testing, to be sure that it wasn't an anxiety disorder or something else that he's really complaining about. And then, and still I agree with you, why not try to talk beforehand, before you get maybe some behavioral management stuff? Jog and talk. Well, it's not, this isn't for depression though, Adderall. Okay, that's true.

It's for ADD. All right. Couldn't hurt. Chris. Chris in hurt. Chris? Chris in Vegas. I put him up on line five. I'll try again. Chris?

He's been waiting a long time. All right. His question is, at what age is it appropriate to start talk therapy for a child? Well... What are you trying to fix? Yeah, you don't do... The answer is you don't do talk therapy with young children, but there are people that Well, you I mean, you do.

But there are therapies of all kinds. Yeah, make something out of clay. Right. Just some of its play therapies. It's all kinds of stuff, including but and behavioral therapies. We went to a behavior therapist when our kids were three. It was extremely helpful. Really? Oh, because we we really we started we were like, hey was extremely helpful. Really? Extremely helpful.

Oh, because we started, we were like, hey, we're yelling all the time. Something is wrong. We went to the behavior therapist and read this book, do exactly what it says. Oh, you and your wife did. The five of us went. The kids went, too. Yeah, and they was like, here's how you do it. Do this.

Time out here. Blup, blup, blup. Changed our life. Everybody was happier. Yeah. Well, but at a certain point, when you have a nine-year-old and they're going to talk therapy, what is the stigma that's attached to that? Not only that, it's about the family at that age, so the full everybody should be going.

Yeah. Yeah. Then there's also the act as if thing, which you know, again, this stuff, we've turned it, we're way too up in our heads with this stuff, literally. Like, look, why don't you spend some time reading with your kid? Why don't you dance with your kid? Why don't you hug it out with your kid and tell them how much you appreciate them and have some fun with them?

You know what I mean? Like, just, it's all there. I mean, it's sort of Ten Commandments shit. It's like, look, whether you there. I mean, it's it's sort of ten commandments shit It's like look whether you're religious or not. It's like no shit You know what? I mean, it's the Bible had it all in there. It's pretty it's pretty straightforward You know honor your parents honor your kids, you know dance with your kids Hey, you know show joy around your kids and not only show joy, but you know, I tell my kids all the time I'm so happy you're here I have so much fun with you this is a good time I'm glad I'm glad you're with us you

know I don't do the uh-huh who's gonna drive the soccer practice that's to me again literally the simple act of putting on a song that you and your kid love and dancing your ass off in the living room is as good as a trip to the therapist. That's me. All right. That's just me. Now, don't do that in the bathroom after the porcelain punisher's been in there. You want to us-

I'm glad you sprayed that pine around. Jesus. Support the show? Oh, listen, Drew. You want to talk about first world problems. Someone has shit up the indoor plumbing and your major beef smells of pine. No one feels sorry for you. Adamanddrdrewshow.com. You're going to go to Amazon.

You're going to buy one of our many books. Well, you go to Amazon, but first you go to Adamanddrdrewshow.com and you click through our banner. You go to Amazon banner that's there and keep a little win in the sales of the pirate ship and also subscribe. Use your PayPal button and you know, five bucks a month. That's all we ask. We will take a little extendo break like until this Thursday, right? Yeah, huh? No? Sunday. Yeah, but we'll take a break until this Thursday.

Oh, until Thursday, excuse me. Thanks, dick. All right. Fucking kids don't listen. They're all hopped up. I'm a laugh-alike. All right, so until next time. Sam Kroll for Dr. Drew and Chris Max Pata

and Gary Half-Tard saying Mahalo. This is Corolla Digital. Poodle TV has all the shows and movies you love streaming for free. That means laughter is free with gut busting comedies like The Neighborhood, Boomerang and Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Bueller. Mystery is free with countless cases to crack from Criminal Minds, Tracker and Matlock. I'm a lawyer like the old TV show. And thrills are free with heart pumping hits like The Walking Dead and Pulp Fiction. Feel the free. Pluto TV. Stream now. Pay never.