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Well enjoy this way back throwback episode we're gonna go into the way back machine
To the time in which Adam and I weren't even doing the show yet. This is Adam and drew together
Which aired as I understand on the Adam Carolla show feed
So this is in the infancy of what you now know is the Adam and Drew show so enjoy this throwback.
From Corolla One Studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Corolla show. Today, Adam's taking your sex, drug and
relationship calls with special guest, Dr. Drew. And now, Adam
Corolla. Yeah, Adam Carolla.
Yeah, get it on.
Got to get it on.
No choice but to get it on.
Mandate, get it on, Dr. Drew.
In the hizzy, everyone loves Dr. Drew.
Follow that mandate.
Yes.
I got to get it on.
You must.
TV shows, you know, Dr. Drew, on HLN, 9 PM, on weeknights,
Great Show, and Life Changersers weekdays 3 p.m.
on the CW and of course Love Line on
syndicated radio Sunday through Thursday all around the country
this show is a bonus show this is for you
and it's for free but it does come with this
little caveat you must tell a friend that's right
you must go to our homepage
at adamcroll.com and hit the tell a friend page and pow. Hit that little marker there
and it tells you how to tell a friend about the podcast.
That's how they get this show?
That's how, no, the show they get.
You're just asking them to do that.
Yeah, yeah.
That's one of those.
It's a request. It's a request.
I'm a retard. That's one of those.
They're not going to do it.
Okay. Yeah. All right. It's a request. I'm a retard. It's one no. They're not going to do it. Fuck you guys.
Telefriend bullshit.
All right.
Drew, I opened the refrigerator moments ago,
and I noticed your keys, your car keys in there.
You see what was on top of?
I saw it was on top of flu vaccination.
Right, right.
And the very first thought was why?
And I looked at it.
I saw the make of car it was and everyone
car out there everyone here drives 87 Yaris so I knew it wasn't their car and
I said Drew mistakenly left his keys in the refrigerator and then I thought how
bizarre is that Drew's a very wise man he wouldn't leave his keys in the
refrigerator right and then I well, he was just pouring
himself a coffee. So he was, I like when I have to go through all these machinations
in my mind, every second. So I'm like-
Wait, wait, stop. Slow it down. Because what people don't understand is this is what you're
doing all day. That's all I do.
This is just one little second that went through your mind. What the F is Drew's keys doing
in my refrigerator? Right. So first was he left them there.
Then secondly was, oh no, he's a bright man.
He wouldn't leave them there.
You actually want to know what my first impulse was?
This key has a battery in it that locks and unlocks
your expensive car's door.
And maybe there was an issue and somebody said,
all the hot weather, blah, blah, blah, throw it in the in the fridge That'll work so my first thought was some sort of mechanical thing
Then you knew me then I knew well
I knew you would listen to somebody, but you wouldn't figure that out
That's right, and then I thought well he set it on there, and he wouldn't do that
But then I thought he was pouring himself some coffee
Yeah, maybe the coffee pots right next to the fridge
Maybe he was going for the creamer when he had his hand on the set it down.
Yeah, set it down.
And then I thought, no, he put the keys on top of the flu vaccination
because he didn't want to forget the flu vaccination.
And it was not his house keys.
It was his car key because he cannot leave.
You can leave without your house keys.
You cannot leave without your car key, right?
And that's the way you think and that's the what I do and that's what I preach and then everyone says shut up
Wait, how would you preach? It's what you're you're you're cursed with when you preach nobody you're the next minute of a nat farts
And you have to figure that out. I'm just saying I say all the time
If you don't want to forget something, go
set it by the front door, lean it by the front door, put it in the car, figure it out, whatever
it is, get a rhythm. Life is too confusing. Your mind is going too many directions at
once. And the great Dr. Drew has a lot on his mind. So he puts the keys now, are you going to vaccinate people here?
No, no, there are my family, my kids are going to go to college and I got to get the vaccines
came early, I got to get them vaccinated.
So I'm thinking, oh, hell, I got to get these home.
But it's hot outside in the car.
Right.
So you put them in the fridge, but you don't want to forget them in the fridge.
And there's no way you can forget them in the fridge.
If you put your car keys on top of there you go.
See, look, I try to tell people all the time, great minds and great people, they're humble.
See, the first thing you need to do is humble yourself.
I swear to God, because I've gotten this with people all the time where I go, you need to
write that down and they go, hey, don't worry, I got it.
And I'm like, no, you don't have it.
And a great mind is not someone that has a mind like a steel trap where they don't need to write stuff down but where they're aware of their own weaknesses and foibles and they then trick themselves into never forgetting things and adjust.
Double check yes. needs to write anything down except for I know you well, and I'm now bringing this up to you multiple times,
so I am not gonna add you onto that list, ironically,
of people who don't need to write things down.
And I'm not sure why you're arguing with me,
because we're only arguing because, once again,
you've forgotten something.
And strangely, it's kind of a discipline thing, isn't it?
Because I do all kinds of funky stuff
with my phone with myself.
I write stuff down, I trick myself.
Because I know if I don't take this moment, it's effortful focus, it's effortful control
in that moment.
It's a discipline.
Yeah, it is kind of where it is, but it's automatic if you do it a few times.
It's not that hard, guys.
I don't mind, again, the part where you didn't think of this, or one didn't think of this,
and I don't mind the part where I'm going to
introduce it to you I do mind the part where you're asking me if I took my
asshole pills because all I would like is for you not to leave your sunglasses
on the patio for the fourth day in a row while you drive at home at night that's
all I don't know why people meet and it's an obsession of mine.
And the reason I'm a good carpenter is because I always just listen to other carpenters and
if they had a good idea, I would adopt it immediately. And I would say, oh, that's a
good way of doing that.
Not it diminishes me because I didn't know that already.
Why is everyone so diminished?
Because you and I can't be diminished any further.
We have such low self-esteem already.
Interesting.
That we're already looking for things to lift us up.
My parents flattened me out like a crepe when I was six,
so there's nothing you can really tell me that I don't even know
when people are being sarcastic with me.
But you would think though that we would be defensive because of that, because we wouldn't
want to feel that.
Yes.
And yet we seem pretty okay with our low self-esteem.
And maybe that's the thing.
Maybe that's the trick.
Well, I look at it as anything that benefits me, I will take and not look at that as a
swipe or being diminished in any way, shape or form.
If you have a way of telling me how to do something better than I'm doing it now,
I am all ears because I get to benefit from it.
So you want to talk about ego, this is about me.
This is about my ego. This is about me stealing something from you.
But I bet you would do it even if it was not a benefit to you, but it benefited others.
I think you would.
I just don't know why, and maybe this is a newer thing, or maybe it goes back 200 years.
Why are we so wound into our...
Why are we so attached to us?
When I say to you, here's a better way to do this so you won't forget this next time.
Why is that such a personal thing?
It's merely a tip.
The disrespect.
Why, yes.
Where did the disrespect come in when it's merely a tip?
The tip is universal.
It would be told to anybody.
It has nothing to do with you personally. It's just you happen to be the person that's forgetting the keys
I wonder if it has something to do with we don't help people develop enough competency that they feel competent in some areas
Mm-hmm, so they can begin to sponge up stuff in others
You know what I mean if you feel competent everywhere you feel a little like right just all the time
Yeah, you know and I blame education for that.
Well, there's a lot of folks walking around sort of half
cocked and feeling not good about themselves,
and then unfortunately regurgitating
that on every piece of information
that comes their direction.
I wonder if people in the military
have a better time sucking stuff up.
You know what I mean?
Because I feel like if people had their ass kicked
in education, they would be fine with this.
Well, an ass kicking is an ass kicking is an ass kicking.
And there's a military ass kicking,
there's an educational ass kicking,
there's a organized team sports ass kicking,
but either way, there's an ass kicking.
There's a breaking down of the individual
and a building up of the team, so to speak.
And whenever that happens, then it makes you much more able and open and your posture is
much different towards somebody because you have to realize if you play sports or you
are ROTC or you are in some very high academic whatever culture environment, your entire
youth was spent with somebody telling
you here's how you do it but I got to tell you something I watched this exact
issue with my sons when they were nine it's the Sun he's held now seven eight
between like five and seven okay yes yeah they played soccer first mm-hmm and
the soccer dads were all frustrated
athletes were angry and took personal digs at the kids you're a bad forward
you're a you're a horrible they would use these words and talk to these kids
they were highly personal i pulled my kids out of soccer and i put them in
tackle football yes and at which point a 300 pound African American
man would pick them up by the face mask, bring the face mask up to his nose and go, son,
I am trying to help you. And they'd go, okay, yes sir, yes sir. As opposed to being broken
down in a way that, which I wonder if that's some of what's going on here. We don't know
how to break people down and build people up and give people good advice and stuff. It's not that we don't know how, we won't tolerate it.
It's a part of it, which is,
I grew up playing tackle football from seven to 18 or 19
and there was no such thing as an excuse.
The coach would say, you pulled the wrong direction
or you didn't get your head on the
outside shoulder and you didn't break down or whatever.
Always in the context, no matter how much he was yelling, I'm trying to help you be
a better player as opposed to, you're just awful, you're a bad, you're this.
Every once in a while you jump up offside and they'd yell, Corolla, get your head out
of your ass.
So you're a better player.
But that was still wake up.
It was wake up.
As opposed to, you're an awful person, that's why you keep your head off your ass.
You understand the difference?
Right.
It was everything, yes.
We understood, it was abundantly clear that everything the coach did was so that he could
win.
I mean, and we could win.
So maybe it's that our families are so screwed up, our parenting is so messed up because
we make it all about us rather than the kids.
The kids expect that kind of intrusion rather than something supportive.
Maybe?
That's part of it, I think.
I think there's a pure and simple, breaks down to this.
I spent the entire beginning part of my life with people telling me what to do and how
to do it better and what I was doing wrong.
And I didn't, you never said anything back. You never said coach you're wrong or you got the wrong
guy or you insane. He'd send you all on laps. There was none of that. It was just
go do it again. Yeah. And that was it. And that's what that was the culture I grew
up in. And now I realize people that don't have that in their background, when
you say to them here's what I need you to do they come back with something and then you go you're not hearing me I'm
doing it and then they come back again and before you know it they've come back
ten times and you thought why are you coming back from this fundamental truth
that by the way will benefit you well they're not they were not involved in
that culture where you're just told something. And by the way, the boys when they were nine years old.
Military's the same way.
By the way, football is loosely based on the military.
Loosely, it's very much.
When I grew up, it was just, you called, first off,
I knew none of the first names
of any of the players on my team.
As a matter of fact, one of the,
I mean, it was just a joke, but somebody came up to my sister once players on my team. As a matter of fact, one of the,
it was just a joke, but somebody came up to my sister once when she was 10 and said, hey, you're Corolla's sister.
Obviously she was Corolla too, but you're Corolla's sister.
I never knew, I mean, I kind of knew their first names,
but everyone used everyone's last name.
There was Yes Sir and No Sir and Coach so-and--so you didn't even call the guy Gallagher he
was coach Gallagher or mr. and appear or mr. coach you know whatever it was no
talking back no first names nothing and I saw the boys nine years and ten years
of age carrying themselves differently laying out their uniform the day before
getting ready. It affects
them in a positive way.
Right. And I must say, I heard somebody call in a talk radio show the other day and say
the exact same thing I've been saying for 25 years, which is they go, the guy said,
I played all sports. I played football. I played basketball. I played baseball and soccer and everything else all growing up and he said football was the only thing I
ever got anything out of. Baseball was fun. Yeah. Baseball you go out and you fuck
around. Yeah. And we just learned how to all whistle the Old Spice theme. That was
our big deal. No, football, among other things, in addition to listening to authority, you learn to put
yourself in harm's way on behalf of your peers.
That's a big deal for young people.
That's right.
All right.
Do you see any Coles you like up there?
He's got these brothers, bipolar, is it dangerous to mix?
Just took the bar exam, anxiety attacks, waiting for results.
Wow, you know, my assistant Jay is in the exact same spot.
Wow.
Yeah, he took the bar exam, just took it, and they don't come into like November or
something. Frank? Yeah, Adam, the bar exam just took it and they don't come into like November or something Frank
Yeah, Adam. How you doing? Good. Is this your first attempt at the bar? Yes, it is
Well, I got great news for you and this should assuage your anxiety just a little bit you can fail this
Attempt as many times you want right and then you can fail the next one and then the one after that and then a fourth and
You can still be the mayor of the city of Los Angeles
one day. He failed four times. Now by the way you cannot try a fifth time
and pass. You just have to realize that you have a disability. Quit and set and take
that great mind and steer it toward politics.
You take that fantastic machine of a brain of yours
that cannot pass the bar after four attempts and go,
you know what, I'm gonna run the second biggest city
in the world, how about that?
That sounds perfect.
And that's why we're number one, baby.
Now Frank, you're talking about the bar in Michigan?
Yes, sir.
Okay, now, yes sir, you get that? Frank played football growing up. I like that, he's a militant bar in Michigan? Yes, sir. OK. Now, yes, sir.
You get that?
Frank played football growing up.
I like that.
He's a militant.
I played it for 10 years.
There you go.
And you learned discipline and hard work, right?
Yes, I did.
It says you're having anxiety attacks while waiting.
I just heard a lecture the other day
where it was talking about well-being
and psychiatric symptoms in attorneys.
And it's the negative symptoms, depression,
anxiety, twice the national average of attorneys.
Yeah, it's tough.
You can look forward to a life of further unhappiness, Frank, once you pass the bar.
But yeah, of course, of course you're anxious.
And now are you having attacks of panic or just waves of anxiety?
It's a little bit of both.
In the very beginning, right after the exam, I couldn't sleep or eat for those first few
days.
Now, is that because you were taking Adderall or caffeine or anything else to try to get
through all that?
No.
Well, I did take like a five-hour energy when I took the exam because it was two days of
a six-hour exam and I wanted to be awake.
But I usually took those for all my exams, and that's not usually an issue. Chucin.
Yeah, you and Armstrong.
By the way, we had talked about that.
Let's talk about Lance Armstrong in a second.
So Frank, I said this to my assistant Jay, who I secretly don't want to pass, so we'll
come back to work over here.
I said, look, did you study as hard as you could study?
He said, I prepared as hard as I could prepare.
I said, well, you're a smart guy.
He said, yeah, most people don't argue with you
when you announce that they're smart.
I said, you're a smart guy,
and you prepared as hard as you could prepare.
So with that in mind, there's a very good chance
that you're gonna pass this thing.
There's no guarantees, but you have taken care of the part
that you can take care of.
And that's, to me, that's the part that should
or shouldn't cause anxiety.
When I feel like I didn't prepare,
when I feel like I didn't do what I had to do,
then there's anxiety.
When I feel like I did everything I could do,
I'll, you know, listen,
I don't like to turn the conversation toward myself,
but here goes for just one second
I
Did a pilot for Fox it's nine minutes long and you guys can find it on YouTube and it's
It's animated and I I'm proud of it. I think it's very good and it's not going on the fall schedule
I don't beat myself up about it. I don't hang my head about it. I
don't have anxiety about it. And I don't even have a what if about it.
Do you have anxiety about anything?
No.
Yeah.
Okay. But the point is this. I don't have any issues with it because I did the best
I could do and it's good. And I don't want to sound like a fucking bumper sticker here.
But if you've prepared and if you
did what you had to do because you cannot control what the executives at
Fox do you can only control the nine-minute presentation you give them
and you cannot control the guys who examine your bar exam you can only
control the part where you're beaked up on five-hour energy drink and bust in
number two pencils left and right this is the serenity prayer, right?
Right.
Help me...
This is it.
So you cannot, yes, you cannot, you cannot change this and thus leave it alone.
Like, I mean...
However.
Yes.
However, once you induce genuine panic, and you got to be sure you're having panic and not just lots of anxiety,
panic is sort of a biological event.
And if you've now opened those circuits and having waves of panic, sometimes it's important to get
those circuits shut off with medication. Sometimes.
Okay.
Or with talk or cognitive therapy or something. So just something to keep in mind. If you
keep having panic, you may need to have that treated just like if you, I don't know, you've
precipitated some other biological event and it needs to be managed.
Frank, if you fail, you can come be my assistant
That's if Jay passes. I would I would love to do that
But if Jay Jay pass if Jay doesn't pass and you do then it's you know, sayonara
If you both don't pass and I get to give the nod to Jay, you understand?
Okay, buddy, you're way ahead of the game. You're 26. You're already taking the bar
You're doing great good times. All right
We went on about Lance Armstrong. Yeah, what do you think about that? I
Mean he has taken he has taken
500 tests
He's been shown an absolute willingness to open himself to any and all biological testing
Well, I have two feelings about it.
At what point?
Three feelings.
I don't blame him, just go on effort.
Three, I have three feelings.
There are certain things that involve the France especially, France hates us, but there
are certain things historically that they're not nuts about. Like for instance, I know from motor racing, Le Mans is Le Mans.
They don't like Americans winning Le Mans. That's their race. So they will make rules and do things
and you know have governing bodies and do this and that. F1 used to be kind of this way. There's
a French guy if you ever watch a movie Senna on that kind of stuff. So they have a thing about outsiders and their thing.
And they're not fans of Americans.
And the reason they're not fans of Americans is very, very simple.
As a matter of fact, they don't like, it was actually funny and then we'll get back to
Lance in a second.
But I was in Montreal and I didn't know about it, but people were telling me, oh Montreal's
Montreal folks, they're not nuts about Americans and then I thought
Well, I've been all over Canada and they seem to be pretty cool with Americans. How about Montreal? Well, this is French
canada over here and
They're not nuts and then I thought what the fuck is
their beef with you know and they actually were running a commercial I
saw my hotel room it was the French-Canadian War the war of it was like
it was and I was like um French anymore yeah and they're like and the day we
beat the Americans and and it was like it was a whole thing like a patriotic
thing about beating Americans and then I oh yes, they have the same thing on a micro level that we always
talk about on a micro level, which is why does the person I bailed out of trouble and
lent money to resent the shit out of me?
Why do the French not like the English? Because while they turned
over and let the Germans occupy them and let them use their landing strips to bomb England
during the World War II when they were when they were firebombing England,
let's not forget, they were firebombing England
taking off from the French coast,
take off from the German coast,
they took over from the fucking French coast
because the French folded when they showed up.
And then the English, they shamed them
because the English dug in and they said we ain't
fucking turning, we ain't quitting, we're gonna show you, we got some fight in us
and then the Battle of Britain and then the Americans came in and helped them
win that and then at a certain point we beat back the Germans who were using
France as an airport to bomb England.
So of course they got shamed.
And whenever you get shamed by a country,
now you would think France would be like,
America, England, we're fucking in love with you guys.
Because we were being occupied by Germans.
And because you guys had backbone and tenacity and a little something we call grit you were able to fight back these
Nazis who we could not fight back and you were able to beat them even though
you're being firebombed on a nightly basis we will we will never stop being
in your gratitude we will never stop thanking you for this heroic act oh no
it's quite the opposite. We don't much
care for the people that saved our culture and our civilization. Why? Because you got
fucking shamed. You got shamed. You got shamed by somebody that had a fucking backbone, you
pussies. Now shut up. Because you got shamed.
Now, let's remind ourselves, though, that 200 years before, France was the greatest,
most powerful country in the world.
They were the culture that was the world.
There was the international language.
French was everywhere.
They had huge colonies.
They had the biggest military.
I mean, 200 years before that, they were it.
And you were shamed.
Like 150 years even before.
104 years.
So they were kind of confused by it even.
They still are.
Listen, the fact that Chinese is becoming an international language
Yeah, French can't even talk about that the the the British and the Americans
shame the fuck out of you pussies and now you resent them and
That's pure and simple and that's the way we're wired macro and micro and that's why when you save somebody's ass
Nine times out of ten instead of gratitude
They fucking hate your guts, and that's why even in Montreal
They're not fans of the Americans and they sure ain't fans of the Brits
Pussies stop you guys are only here because we let you exist you understand
We let you exist because we fucking stood up to the Nazis and you pussies didn't thank you
No, not only didn't you stand up?
Every fucking flight that took off to firebomb London took off from your pussy soil, but you're it's a weird
They're gonna weird here. These are not French. They're Canadians doesn't matter. They're so attached to their house still
It's kind of worse. Yeah Yeah, it's genius keep going
It'll be perfect for the next world war because you're setting yourself up perfectly
Alright, so I don't think the Tour de France likes an American winning that many times
Yeah, so this will never end is that's one thought number two thoughts
Yeah, the guys had 500 drug tests number three five hundred literally five actually five hundred it is
part it's
Endemic whatever he did or didn't do is exactly what every writer behind him did and didn't do
When he won those races, that's for sure. I agree. So yeah, that's the only part
I care about if everyone's juicingicing, then no one is juicing.
The only real problem we have is when there's one guy who's out in front and everyone else
is doing nothing but altitude training and they're getting a shit kick and eating bee
pollen.
Why don't they just say the chemotherapy changed your muscle metabolism, therefore you're disqualified?
That's the same thing.
It's the same kind of biased, discriminatory stuff. I'm telling you, if this was the Tour de Colorado or the Tour de Montana, we would not be having
this problem.
It's France, and they don't like the American guy, who they don't like.
And again, they can't really say they don't like it, and they can't admit, and they won't
explain why, and they'll pick out other things
But it's all about shaming them and saving them in World War II. I know Lance spent a little time with him
He's a really nice guy and I'm curious to see where this goes. I'm sure it's not over completely
But like I said
There are certain things that are involved in let's say racing and in sports
And there's every everyone is looking for an edge
whether you're driving a car driving a bike or running 100 yards you're looking for an edge and
if everybody is doing exactly the same thing whether you call it it's by the way at a certain
point it's not cheating if everyone is taking the same test and it's
graded on a curve and everyone gets to have their notebook open or cheat sheet.
Even just cheat sheets.
Like I said, look, here's a three by five card.
Write as many answers as you can on it.
You're going to be graded next to the guy to your right and next to the guy to your
left who can do the same thing, then I don't care.
And I feel that way about him.
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