The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - The Dangerous Myth of Modern Wellness & the Decline of Discipline - Adam & Dr. Drew #1994

Episode Date: April 9, 2025

Adam and Dr. Drew revisit the societal shift that began in the 1960s, examining how quickly structure gave way to chaos once people were given comfort and an excuse to stop showing up—especially during COVID. They argue that even the most reliable professions aren’t immune to laziness when accountability disappears.They also question modern health trends like constant hydration, reflect on the consequences of erasing biological differences, and discuss how avoiding marriage, fatherhood, and discomfort is leading to a cultural breakdown rooted in denial and dysfunction.Thank You for Supporting Our Sponsors:Incogni.com/ADAMANDDREWRuffGreens.com Promo code AdamSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Pluto TV has hundreds of channels and thousands of terrifying movies, live and on demand. Download Pluto TV on all your favorite devices and start streaming now. Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board certified physician and addiction medicine specialist Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get on it. Dr. is board certified. What's going on? So you and I have been chatting a little bit away from the microphone about the anthropology we were exposed to, the history. I think I brought this up last week, Susan's gotten really involved in all the Laurel Canyon history and we were listening to a book together about Laurel Canyon. And it just confirmed everything I believed about those guys and the Roxane and the fact that we elevated a bunch of sociopath drug addicts to

deity status that didn't deserve it. And when you really hear the story, it's like, oh my God, no wonder somebody got murdered. Sharon Tate I'm talking about. Anyway, it's... The stunning thing to me when I think about that era, is that we were watching, as part of her research, she watched a movie last night called Mondo Hollywood. You ever heard of this film? Yeah. Was that John Waters' film? It is.

There's a guy named Cohen, but it has that quality for sure. John Waters has a Mondo something. And I don't remember. Probably an homage to this thing. You've got something on your right nostril. I don't think things are going. I get it. Go ahead.

Yeah. Booger or whatever. I don't know. Whatever. Nice to look at on the show, huh? Either way. So moving on. But the bottom line was, it's sort of, first of all, somebody spent money and made this

thing. It was just astonishing. And then I thought to myself, well, after all, four years later was a Kentucky Fried movie. Somebody made for a nickel. And if you look at that now, it looks like just a POS. Point is, no, no, Kentucky Fried movies funny. Funny. It was funny. But have you seen it? Watch it in recent history? Yeah, I have. Okay. I'm quite familiar with it. It's not a big, it's a low budget film, but it's a well-written funny film. It's not hurt by its budget. Okay. Fair enough.

Because you want to shoot an action movie and you don't have the budget, stuff looks cheap. You do sort of slapsticky, sketchy stuff, it doesn't really matter. It's odd because now you can get 100 times the quality with your iPhone. And so watching it is like, well, they spent money to make... All right, okay. Anyway, the point I want to make is that a lot of the film is making fun of the old white guys. And they actually do that. In Mondo, Hollywood. From 70...

67. 67. And they do it quite effectively. Ultimately, it's about Ram Dass, Rom Das, Richard Alpert and his advocacy for taking acid. What a wonderful experience that is. They're brain injured from that. Good times. But the stunning thing to me, this is what I want to bring up, is here are these old white guys, a lot of them sort of World War II vets and sort of from that era. And they really, I mean, you wonder why people on the left are aversive to people on the

right. You just look at those guys and you go, oh, they're still thinking about those guys as being Republicans. And the Republican Party gets painted with that brush, which I understand. I wouldn't want to be a part of that, those guys either. Not the point of what I'm saying here. The point of what I want to say is, overnight, we shifted into something totally different. I mean, the shift from the old white guys to who were the parents, to the hippies and the insane behaviors and the drug addiction and all, and the insane behaviors and the drug addiction and all. It's it's it's almost incomprehensible. You're talking about from the mid or 60s, the earlier 60s.

I thought of something you said. I thought of something you said. And I thought of your mom. It's that here she is in a beehive all tightly put together. And one day, do you know, you're doing and that do you know, you're one hair, one hair springs out. And that doi-oi-oi-oi-ing is the whole thing falls apart. Like just completely falls apart. It can't hold together at all anymore.

Yes. Which is, I don't know this, I don't think anyone's really thought about that. And I wanted your thoughts. Like how do we shift so hard, so fast? And what were the elements? That's why we get paired. I think the CIA was involved with it gets so profound. I think that Human

Society is kind of fragile in that it's it's not all just kind of as Is will be forever and that's the way it goes. It's kind of as is, will be forever, and that's the way it goes. It's kind of fragile, you know? And I've said to you, and I used to say to you all the time, the second a large group percentage-wise, I mean, not large percentage-wise, as soon as 1% of people decide we're all gonna go out and burn down a CVS or a riot aid or something, the cops just stand back. Like it's fragile

in that it relies, it's like traffic and driving. It cannot really be policed because it's so vast. It really relies on you, the driver, pulling out, seeing the thing, waiting for the guy to come by, waving somebody on, you know, merging, you know, going through a parking structure that's crowded, driving around, not parking on the part that's marked off by the elevator, you know what I mean, that's not for parking, you know, not stealing someone's spot who's been there with their blinker on waiting for someone. You know, there's a lot of sort of back and forth, kind of unspoken, a little ballet of life.

Cooperation. Yes, just a co- You drive through a parking structure, you go, you see a guy, backup lights, come on, ooh, a space. And then you look up and you see there's a guy on the other side and he's had his blinker on and he's been there. You can't shove yourself into that space. You can, but it's gonna throw off the agreement that we all sort of enter into when we get in our cars. And that's how society is.

So you're talking about the social contract. It's like a social contract. You keep your lawn looking nice because I would like my I would like a neighbor whose lawn looks nice But you would also would like to look across the street at a nice lawn And so I shall keep and people sort of kept it together humans naturally do some of that, right? I mean we are social beings we live in yes also have a side that is that is lurking just beneath the surface of I don't fucking feel like

cleaning up my yard. Yeah. And I don't and I want to park in that parking space, even though that guy's waiting there. Yeah. But I want to park in it, cause I'm tired of driving around looking for a place to park. And I'd like to just, you know, I'd like to sue somebody and get paid, you know,

and not have to go to work. And I don't really, I like to kind of, I'm gonna get up and get dressed. I'd like to stay in my sweatpants, you know, and flip flops and stuff like that. And that is kind of lurking just beneath the surface. And it's a constant battle to try to keep it at bay. And it's just always there.

And it's sort of diet and exercise and stuff. It's like, it's always there. You have to constantly stay on it, otherwise it'll slide pretty fast, you know? And so, once society says, look man, what are you getting up and doing what you're doing for, for the man or for the you don't have to do X, Y or Z. It's so tempting.

You know what I mean? I mean, look, look what happened with COVID. The second we let people stay home for two fucking weeks, we had to show up with a fucking crowbar to pry them off of their sofa to get the fuck back to work. Even the noble school teachers. As soon as you gave those fucking socialist dickheads 10 minutes at home, they fought tooth and fucking nail to not go back to work. Why? It's really, it's not really about work. I mean, they were teaching from home or whatever the fuck

they said they were doing. They don't want to get dressed. Right. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. They want to take a shower, get dressed, put themselves together and present themselves at school. So here's a profession and here's, and by the way,

teachers aren't drug addicts and or Venezuelan gang members. They're teachers. I mean, these are the soberest, sort of thoughtful, show up every day, got to be there at 730 every morning. It can't be like folks I've employed over the past where you just sort of roll in 45 minutes late, you got a class, you got first period. So this is a relatively sober, responsible representation of society. Noble, they've gone into the teaching profession, they turn into lazy sacks of shit the second we give them two weeks at home. And morally bankrupt.

By the way, they would just fucking say anything. They didn't even know what they were saying. We gotta wait until we get the... The plastic barriers. ...the air filters and the fucking plexiglass on fishing string. And we're not going back. I'll never forget talking to the... I believe she was the

treasurer of the, I think LA Unified. And I was like, all right, well, how long is it going to take? I go, what? How long is it going to take? I go, what? You know what you want now? Let's go. How long is it going to take? You're a racist and a sexist. Right. Okay. So this is a good group of people Okay, so this is a good group of people turned bad immediately because that lethargy lurks just beneath the surface and all we needed to do is tell these people, I mean imagine, your average person in this, in my scenario, is a 44 year old woman who may have been in the teaching profession for 15 years or more, 20 years. 20 years of getting up, getting dressed,

talking about how much she loved her students. Two weeks on the fucking sofa and that bitch was fighting tooth and nail to not come in ever again. Now, if we would have told them, we're not paying you if you stay home. Well, I was just going to say. Then they would have pulled their fucking lazy hero asses into the classroom. Yeah. But we didn't do that. Well, we should have done it, but we didn't do it.

But here's the point. They can slide fast. Everyone can slide. And my mom They can slide fast Everyone can slide and my mom Had the ability to slide even eat baked in But let's think about what creates some of that ability because when you look at the kids in the Royal Canyon and the Rockstar And stuff they're in these big houses. They're eating every day. They're flopping. They're buying drugs. Who's funding this shit? I think kind of too much money is part of the problem. Oh, no. And then your mom's thing is too much government money.

No, no, sorry. My mom, okay. When you have a nut, you're for, I mean, I got divorced. I got fucked in my divorce. I got to pay my ex $30,000 a month that means I got to make $60,000 a month so Guess who's going out this weekend, right? I'm going out. I am motivated to work. I have to work yeah, so my mom had a house and That was paid for by her mom and she always had a car that was you know 20 years old that she paid 400 bucks for but by the way, what where was she going by her mom. And she always had a car that was 20 years old that she paid 400 bucks for.

But by the way, where was she going in her car? You know what I mean? She didn't really have any place to go. Couldn't get down the driveway. So she wasn't motivated to get up and work. I've been kind of trying to tell people about this motivational problem for a long time. They don't really understand it, you know?

It's like, there's a great, you know, whenever Bernie Sanders talks, it's like, oh, so a couple of millionaires can't give a little money for other people so they can get by? It's like, that's not how it works, you fucking retard. They don't, you don't give them money and they start a business. They spend it and then they get angry

So was I playing you Tim Walls that thing about when he was doing his apology thing? I think I was telling you about yeah, but I played for it. No it was so funny because Byron's looking for it now but it's when when he was a pile when he was had to do is I Apologize because he was making fun of Tesla for the stock going down then it turns out the Minnesota had all the 401k but that you know, whatever whatever Whatever as they say it always turns out to be wrong, right? Yeah or embarrassing or something Yeah, but he did a funny thing. He's really turning out to be a dope

Well, just kind of weird like weird. I look I get hey, I disagree with this guy or I get that but Being a dope is kind of weird, like weird. I get, hey, I disagree with this guy, or I get that, but being a dope is kind of weird. It's the perfect word. Yeah, he said dope. Yeah. But listen how he, I just want you to listen the last, we'll play it, but listen the last 30 seconds of it, because this is his vision of what rich guys do.

What can we possibly do about Elon Musk because it's not right It is not right This guy bugs me in a way that I thought probably unhealthy and But I Have to be careful about being a smartass. I was making a joke. These people have no sense of humor They are the most literal people most literal people but but my point was they're all mad and I you know said something I didn't you know, she probably shouldn't have about a company

I make the case, I make the case, they're all, they're all butthurt about the Tesla thing, but they don't care the disrespect they have shown to employees at the Minneapolis VA who care for our veterans, and they fire them. They don't care. They fire them. So we will have the conversation about efficiency in government and about doing that, but none of us believe for a second they're thinking about this. Oh, we fired everybody that's dealing with Ebola.

And then he went into the Oval Office wearing a hat. I don't ever want to hear anybody talk about decorum and respect or that. Wearing a hat, coming in there, richest man in the world. Again, this baby's just me. If I'm the richest man in the world, I'm like out on the streets handing out the money. It'd be fun as hell just to help people out. Go help people out. Not this guy. All right, hold on a second. It's great because A, it's always self-aggrandizing.

Yeah, you're the richest guy in the world, so you go out in the street and just hand out. We bring a pillowcase of money helping people out. Much better than creating jobs, building factories, sending people to Mars. Much better. That dope has a 10 cent head and that's his nine year old's version of Daddy Warbucks. If I'm the richest guy, I'm helping people

by giving him handfuls of money out in the street. We haven't had the avatar conversation publicly, right? All right, we will. Alright, I got, I got, so I want to say this about what you're saying. Society and people are precariously balanced.

Yes. And it's basically a daily job to get up and get your shit together and sort of push against the gravity of life. Now, there's Super Bowl parties and weekends and stuff like that, but as it leaves in my mouth,

a Super Bowl party that I would throw is still a lot of fucking work for me. It's a lot of work. You have to buy stuff and set stuff up and you know, all, there isn't, it's not zero gravity. But either way, either way, once you set that down for a couple of weeks or a couple of months or a couple of years,

it goes and when it goes, it just kind of, it's gone. And if you're gonna do that on a societal level, then you go out and you see homeless people flopped out everywhere and sort of garbage everywhere and just sort of blight, you know, and it just decay. And it's like, oh yeah, it doesn't take that long. Like, you know, you see films from the 50s where they just sort of go up and down, Sunset Boulevard,

and they show all the, everyone's wearing a tie and a hat, and people are put together and they're thin, and they look normal, and the streets are clean, and the businesses are like well taken care of and stuff like that. And they just fast forward to 75, and it's like hookers and drugs and needles and everything. That's my point. It was overnight almost. Yeah. It really got going.

Listen. It took five years to completely fall apart. I've used this metaphor a lot, but I think it's because I really like it. The guy is like, well, that guy is 84, but he's in great shape because he walks every day and he's so vibrant, you know, and everything. And at some point you hear the guy took a spill in the bathroom and slipped and he broke his hip or whatever. And you go, oh, he's been in the hospital for a week now. And you go visit him and you

walk in and you can't believe what you're seeing, his face of death. You know what I mean? Like that went from tan and virile and walking every morning to, oh my god, I got on death's doorstep. A couple of weeks. You know, boom! Fast. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I see it all the time. You see it all the time. So it's, it's really, it really happens fast. And by the way, that's why we need to keep after it constantly. Yeah. Two things. One is, Hemingway had a statement about that's why we need to keep after it constantly. Yeah. Two things. One is, Hemingway had a statement about that as it pertains to a character that went into

bankruptcy. He asked, how was it? What was it like? The character says, well, it was first slow, then fast. And so it's underway somewhere. But the other thing about getting up and getting dressed and going to work, we lack meaning now. Meaning making is gone.

And we've noticed over the years, religion may have been a useful function in that regard, both in terms of meaning and purpose. All right, we'll take a quick break. Be right back after this. I think most of us are aware we live in a world where personal information is just accessible more than ever. Data brokers collect and sell your private details,

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I don't any longer subscribe to their well-meaning, but they just misguided or something. I don't know what they, I no longer know what they want. Or the only conclusion I can draw is, well I'll put it to you this way, they study just came out that basically said gas prices in California are not the most expensive in the nation because of as Newsom was claiming gouging by the oil companies. We've talked about this. It's regulation and burdensome this and that. Okay.

All right. But okay. But here's the whole thing. I guess this would be my What I would say. Yeah, I Don't think Newsom ever thought it was major oil gouging solely California for some inexplicably just California. I don't think he ever thought that

Obviously he knows that the high taxes and the burdensome regulations are causing this. So what is it that he wants? You know, would he like cheaper gas? If he would there's a pathway to that. It's the same one every other fucking state in the union does except for yours. So Do you want this? I guess the answer is no. Will you say it? No, you won't say it because people won't like it. Won't make it popular. Did you want a stout border? Did you want this?

The answer is no. Now we get dragged along because they make speeches saying, I want this thing, except for it never happens. And everything you do is counter to that. You know what I mean? So now I'm of the camp, I used to be sort of forgiving about it, which is, oh, you just misguided. You don't know what you're doing. And now I realize when it comes to something like the border No, they did not want it Closed or stout so it seems well no it so it is I mean they didn't they didn't do it

Then want it done. So by the way in a certain point When Texas says we're along the border and you won't do anything about the border so we're putting up razor wires and shipping containers on our side of the Rio Grande to try to stop this and then the federal government sues Texas to get rid of all that stuff. Maybe you don't want astound, maybe you're for this. Of course. Yeah. So it's not even a ineptitude thing. It's a that's what you're for.

Sheesh. It's weird. Sad, but all part of the nihilism, you know what I mean? All right. Let me ask you about this, Drew. Yeah. CBD and autism? Yeah. Well, here's my my thing I haven't read this but that's a new study I think we're doing way too much every I don't know if you want to call them life hacks but every single woman I know is is

figuring out some way to cut some sort of corner in life, you know? And I just keep going, diet and exercise, diet and exercise, diet and exercise, start, break a sweat, just get moving, you know, listen to classical music. Yeah, but there's a new compound that you can rub on your inner arm or something. And it's like, it's fine. And I get it as a human being, you know, you're skimming through the internet and something pops up, like, here's the best food to get rid of belly fat or something like that. But look, we used to sell snake oil. I don't know.

I don't think it works. I don't think it did. But humans always wanted a kind of a shortcut for everything. And we do that a lot now, now all the pot and CBD stuff and everything like that. And look, I'm... Here's the works for autism, everything and nothing. Right, right.

That's the works for autism. So every study just go, okay. Put it out 18 months, see if it still is the same. Right, right. I mean, look, if it works, if it works, maybe it works. But here's... Wouldn't hurt. Yeah, I just think that there's...

I think people get in a head space where they're thinking way too much about, you know, this kind of coffee or what to put in their coffee or this kind of drink and what this drink does and what this thing's infused with and what's whatever or they're not hydrating enough and whatever it is. And I am telling you that as human beings, we really don't need that much. I grew up in the middle of basically nothing. There was no, you know, I've been yelling, how long have I been yelling at people when they go, you take your weight and then you translate that into ounces. So if you're, if you're, okay, you're 200 pounds. So that's 200 ounces. So you

need 26 pints of water a day. And I'm like, like first off How come we used to do two a day football practices with no water restricted? Very restricted you were not allowed to have water except at the end In uh in the san fornano valley in the heat in the desert How come when I was 12 i'd get on my fucking bike and i'd just take off in the middle of the summer with no Source of water None of these no thought about no thought just take off with this fucking water. At some point, at some point of hour number seven of riding a dirt bike, somebody would drink,

get a suck off the hose, and that was about it. I would go onto a construction site. I would go onto a construction site in the summertime and watch dudes including myself do hard labor digging ditches busting up demo stucco whatever carrying drywall sheets up the stairs stack them go back down get another drywall sheet. I thought fucking all day there was not a water bottle it didn't exist exist. There was not a cup. There was no canteen. That was for an army man. That was for a guy's doing

12 mile hikes in full gear or three days or three. Yeah, three days. Yeah, that was not we were working. At some point. You might get a little cotton mouth or something. So you'd suck off the hose bib in the front. You'd spit it out, you'd go back to carrying drywall and sweating. All fucking day, there was no stop, there was no break, no one had any bars, you know, any protein bars or shit with stuff in it, you know what I mean?

This got hydrolytes in it and stuff. Like it was nothing, it was just fucking nothing everyone was skinny Nobody was fucking nuts. Nobody was nuts Nobody was nuts. Everyone was skinny and no one had any gut problems or any head problems And no one was allergic to anything So when you start peddling all your shit where you have to add all this shit to the water and you have to hydrate and you have to fucking drink all day and you have to have this CBD bar

and whatever the fuck it is, I've been there. I remember when people were sane and people were skinny. And now people are fat and they're fucking nuts. So don't fucking tell me this is the path. Last thing, experts are saying that women are staying single and avoiding marriage. And when you read the expert's opinion as why, Adam, if you were staying single as a male and avoiding marriage, what would your reason be? Let's just think about it that way. Your reason, I would say reason would be, I don't know, having fun, just doing okay. I'm fine. Oh, no, no.

The experts have like three paragraph reasons why there's glorious and wonderful and joyful and self-focused and finding meaning. What? It just sounds... Oh, women, single women are mainly miserable. It sounds like defense against miserableness. It's like greater satisfaction compared to men partly due to strong platonic friendships Valuing self-love and personal growth over societal pressures Societal okay, okay. Listen fuck y'all. That's what I want to say this notion of Like well now she's with a man. So she's pretty much No more friends for her. Yeah

I've had women they can do whatever the fuck they want turns out They just spent my money and did whatever the fuck they wanted. There wasn't any restrictions Just did what they want. I've draw you one of the keys by the front door Yeah, I know very picky that way when you're driving your $100,000 Tesla, like the key fob by the front door. The extra key fob. But the point is, I don't know where all the oppression comes from. Every woman I've been with, I'm happy if she has friends, because it gives me a break to go out with your friends.

Let me hang out with my friends. Who wants no friends? Just go fucking go out with your friends. Yeah Let me hang out with my friends. I Who wants no friend and what are all these declarations and what year is it? societal pressures all society's fault Listen women by the way society is unraveled. We're a society applying pressure to anybody women have a biological mandate to have kids and to being a relationship and get married and When they go against the biological mandate to have kids and to be in a relationship and get married. And when they go against the biological mandate, they get fucking miserable.

And by the way, young boys have a biological mandate to wrestle other young boys. And when you stop them from doing it, they'll start cutting on themselves. So there's mandates, biologically. Stop ignoring them. That's our big plan. Oh, who knows what a man is, who knows what a woman is. Okay, keep going, because you will take society, you will unravel society. We've already begun.

And to your point, Rough and Tumble Plate is called, exists in all early adolescent mammals. Male. Right. Only. Only. Male chimps. Male chimps. Male rats. Male everything. Yeah, right. Male cats. They all do rough and double play. Right. Okay. All right. Friday. Gonna be at American Comedy Club in San Diego. Don't stand up there. Two shows. And then Saturday. Two shows. American Comedy Club Club just go to Adam Kroll account for all your information of live shows what do you got? Sorry about Rumble, ask Dr. Drew and head over to Dr. com. See you there. Till next time, Adam Kroll for Dr. Drew saying Mahala. Podcasting isn't just about talking, it's about growing, engaging, and monetizing, and that's where Podcast One Pro comes in. Whether you're an independent creator or a major brand, Podcast One Pro gives you the

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