The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - The Schwarzenegger Effect (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)
Episode Date: March 29, 2025Drew starts the show by himself this week and discusses something he recently saw at a hotel pool in Las Vegas. When Adam arrives, the topic expands to a broader discussion of weight issues in America.... Later they take calls from a recovering alcoholic who has just moved home and a guy who is having trouble keeping the spark in his relationship.
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It's one of these rare Adam and Drew shows where it is for the moment just Drew.
Because those of you that think Adam is some kind of screwball that fucks around all the time,
he's actually somebody who's really always on time and very professional in how he conducts himself. First thing that
I noticed about him when we started working together in the mid-90s, we'd go out on the
road. We were actually sort of in New York or something and they were sending us around
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And that was the first time somebody
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Are you on time?
Double checking, triple checking.
You're sure you know what time it is?
Did not check with him.
Did not repeat myself more than once about where we would meet.
And he would show up.
I don't care what time of day it was.
It's 4.30, 5 o'clock in the
morning, and maybe 2.30 our time because we're in Pacific time, and we're in New York or
something, and that really surprised me.
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All right, got it. Interesting thing, I was in Las Vegas over the weekend and I've got
something to show Adam. I don't want to telegraph this too much because he's going to freak
out when I show him this. But I went and saw some comedy shows, and I was sitting there thinking, oh my god, that's
right, comedians, when they do an act, everything is very carefully set.
I mean, they're really skilled.
It's a talent.
It's amazing to see.
And then I thought, oh my god, when Ab and I get up there, we have no effing idea what
we're going gonna do or say
when we walk out.
We kind of have some vague notions we've written down
on things, and we just talk.
And so every show is different.
I think every show gets a little better,
because we sort of, I don't know,
there was some good ones though.
Salt Lake City was pretty good.
That's not, Salt Lake is not in that highlight reel.
Are you guys gonna come up with that?
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of giants in the field of psychology and psychiatry. And I get to sit down and talk to them now.
What are you guys laughing at and looking at me like that for? Come on.
No, no, no. He was asking where Adam was, and I was laughing at him for being worried
about it.
Don't worry about it. He'll be here when he's here. All right. So what I'm going to talk
to Adam about is this lift that I saw at the pool. Put that up on the website
and when he comes in, it'll be up maybe on the screen here, we can show it to him. He's
always screaming about how fat we become as a country and it turns out now that the pools
in Las Vegas have a lift for people that can't quite, they're too fat to negotiate the stairs.
They have to be lowered into the pool in a crane, basically.
We had these in Phoenix at the hotel. We all stayed out and we performed there, and there
were parents letting their kids get on it and ride them like they were...
Well, that actually sounds like a good use of it, but did Adam talk about this at his
thing?
I didn't see him in the pool area. He was walking by to go to the gym, so he may have
seen this, but I haven't heard him talk about it.
And he didn't talk about it.
No. Is this some kind of... What it looked to me like was some sort of legal mandate, the, so he may have seen this, but I haven't heard him talk about it. I didn't talk about it. No.
Is this some kind of, what it looked to me like was some sort of legal mandate, the way
we have to have ramps and things?
Yeah, I think it is.
It's for disabled people to be able to enjoy the pool.
I'm all for that, but I don't think that's necessarily what this is.
I guess heavy people go under disabled because they can't get around, but it really looks
like a scooter.
I mean, it's like one of those things.
And listen, this is not to disparage the availability or like you say, Chris, is Jeff, Gary, for
people to be able to enjoy the pool.
100%, 1,000% supportive.
But I think what Adam is going to go to and he has a point is that it's allowing us
to get so obese that we become disabled as opposed to making it more challenging
to be that obese that we might kind of keep an eye on it.
Yeah, I'm absolutely with you.
Listen, that's what I imagined somebody would say if you asked them.
I don't necessarily believe that these are the greatest inventions in the world.
Well, again, it's so funny.
When Adam talks about some of these kinds of issues,
that's why I have mixed and ambivalent feelings about it.
On one hand, absolutely, I want people
that are disabled to be able to participate, 1,000%.
But then I don't want it to be that,
I don't know how you really resolve that.
This is the stuff that kind of Adam and I argue about
a little bit when he starts talking about not having services
for people that need it.
Like, well, what are you going to do then? You want to just let them flounder if they really need it?
You've got to provide it. It's the people that don't really need it that fall back on
those services we're really talking about. And no one really knows how big that population
is, really. I mean, according to Adam, it's the whole world. But we really don't know
if that's a significant percentage of the population of people who use social services. Although I got to say, it was interesting. I was doing
a – I work with a charity very carefully. It's called HillSides, a home for children.
HillSides. Do look it up online. They're really one of the highest quality organizations
for helping abuse kids and problematic families. And're just sensational and I can't see enough about them and I contribute a lot of
time and money and effort to them.
But I was looking at some of their budgets and things and the way they throw around dollar
amounts, it feels – I don't want to say irresponsible but it feels different than
an individual does.
It's like, whoa, there are huge sums that have to be tossed around to help hundreds
of people.
And I'm not, again, I'm in there supporting it.
I'm all about it.
But I don't know how we create a more efficient, personalized system that I don't understand
how we can do it, how we support, you know, these gigantic organizations.
Health care, when it switches over to Obamacare, is going to be just huge.
I know exactly what's going to happen.
I mark my words.
First of all, we don't have enough primary care physicians to manage it, so it's going
to fall to nurse practitioners and nurses and paraprofessionals, which may work out
fine.
It may be fine, but you're not going to see a physician.
As time goes on, even that's going to get ratcheted down, where it's going to take
you weeks or months to be able to even see a nurse practitioner.
So you're going to be talking to sort of clerical level people who might look through,
you know, sort of algorithms in their book when you call in, like, well, do this.
That doesn't work.
Try this.
And it's going to happen like that.
We are a giant country and you make a giant system.
It's not like that. We are a giant country and you make a giant system. It's not like Sweden.
It's not, you know, Sweden has about 8 million people in it or something.
It's completely different when you create an organization of the size that we're talking about creating here.
So let me talk a little bit about
my HLN program too.
We are getting into this George Zimmerman trial a little bit. Again,
those of you who are wondering why I'm tap dancing here is again, we're waiting for
Adam to come. He's going to be here in just a minute. And it's rare that he... To be this
late is like unheard of. It's very, very, very unusual. I'm sure I'll have a good story
to tell. So hang in for that. But the Zimmerma trial, gentlemen, I keep telling my producers I don't want to cover it because
I see no upside.
I see nothing good can come of this trial.
I don't care who wins, who loses.
I care, but no matter who wins or loses, there's going to be a lot of really upset people for
reasons that – not a single reason.
So I myself, I'm just sort of, I'm covering it.
I'm letting other people comment about it.
I'm just throwing people up there that have an opinion.
But I would rather not cover it, frankly.
I'd rather just, I don't think people are that interested in the trial itself.
And the only thing it does is inflame horrible, prejudicial feelings on both sides.
It doesn't matter who you are.
It just inflames these sort of irrational, not even irrational, these sort of problematic
feelings that kind of can't be resolved and certainly can't be resolved in four-minute
segments on television, right?
No, I totally agree.
And for what it's worth, Mark Garagos
came in here and said that any defense lawyer worth his salt
would get him off and that it was just a slam dunk.
Yeah, that scares me.
Yeah, it seems like no matter what the outcome is,
people are going to be really, really outraged.
Right.
So if he doesn't get off, people are
going to say it's some sort of retribution.
It's not justice. it should have been an easy
layup for the defense and he in any event still gets convicted, that's not justice.
And if he doesn't get convicted, people are going to be saying it's racism and this guy
is a racist from the top to bottom. And I don't want to be in the middle of that firestorm
personally because I just don't see anything good coming of this. I don't see it. Look who's here. Yeah, gotta get it on, man.
Yeah, no choice, man. What's going on? Well, I know you see looking at this picture I put here.
Here, let me start you with this. I was talking to the folks, listeners about this. It's all set up
for you. It's all right. We've been going for a while. Mm-hmm. So yeah, automated baptism machine.
That's right. That is from Rome, Italy, and the pope himself operates it, and you're lowered
into holy water.
It is an... I was joking.
I know, I'm too.
Okay. That's as much joke as you have.
That's it. I ran completely... That's it for the week, by the way. The week. Wow. No, you know why I was believing you, because A, it looks like it's in some
place that could be not here.
Well, strangely, it's the Venetian hotel, so it's sort of Italian-esque.
And also, there's a lot of weird religious stuff that, like the Sabbath goyim and things like that.
There's a lot of weird loopholes in religion.
But anyway, I'm looking at a device
that lowers people into a swimming pool.
The other thing is you went with me going with you
in the way, because you say things
that are extraordinary sometimes,
and people go, yeah, anyway.
You're used to people not going, how'd you know?
How is that possible?
You knew I worked at a batting cage, you just brought that out of the blue?
No, yeah, batting cage.
Anyway, I was there and they were pitching a little fast.
So anyway, so this thing is at a Las Vegas hotel.
Take a look around at some of the people in the background.
Okay, so that's the kind of place it is.
It's a club for young people wearing skimpy clothing,
where they play loud music.
There are three or four pools there.
Each one of those has one of these devices.
Sure.
And I just thought you'd appreciate it.
It's for people that are too heavy to negotiate the stairs.
Well, to be fair, um...
That's how they announce it.
What's that?
That's what they announced to me.
Now, to be fair...
Not handicapped?
To be fair, it's also for that.
I'm a wheelchair?
Absolutely, which I'm all for.
I'm all for.
But evidently, it's used...
Mainly by people that are too heavy.
Well, first off, when you're... I've seen enough belly flop
competitions to know that water is a fat person's best friend. Like I've seen
eight and nine hundred pound... Yeah, first off, there's not... you know, when you're
looking at the 800 pound guy and he said I just want a competition, it's either
belly flop or rib eating like that's
Wasn't a slam dunk competition. So I've seen enough fat guys. Oh
Really all you need to do when you're fat once you hit the water you become like a hippo or manatee
In the sense that you become immediately buoyant and not only that this is four feet deep
You can see three three on the side there.
You should want to live in water.
So all you need to do as a fat individual
is essentially push yourself off into this fall
and then you'll be caught.
The pool is your foam pit as a fat person.
It's going to catch you.
It's going to make all things right in the world
I'm a foam pit it neutralizes gravity for you
Once you're in it's a foam pit on landing but gravity friend once you're in one of your joints is gonna
Just just cry a sigh of relief. Yeah, it's it's unattractive
It's
Obtrusive and it sort of reminds you of fat people by the pool when you're trying to look at skinny chicks
Yeah, it was a very I just thought you'd appreciate it. Well, you know mandate now. Oh, well listen, uh
New world order it's
It's all look it's all was all clearly outlined in 50 years
We'll be chicks except for that books three years old and it's upon us now. It says right at the beginning they used to have things called
gym ropes that hung up in junior highs. Oh yeah. Gymnasiums. Right from the ceiling.
Yeah you had to make it up that rope. If you didn't make it up the rope you were made
fun of. Right. Ridiculed. Ridiculed while you were having trouble. Right. Now while
we're staring at bottom sack, which
is worse than back sack, staring at the bottom of your ball sack
and making fun of you simultaneously,
and then we decided we didn't like the outcome.
We decided that kids were too fat, not enough,
we're making it up the rope.
So our plan was to take down the ropes.
Right.
That is never the plan.
So here's what I was talking about before you got here. How do we reconcile that? I'm
not in favor of not having this for people that are disabled. I'm in favor of having
it. But how do you make it so people don't lean on it, go to that lowest denominator?
How do we do with that? My feeling for that. Shame?
Well, it's always shame.
It's always society.
It's always shame.
But my feeling for that was funny.
Well, okay.
My feeling with this, the way I'd like my libertarian version of this is if you do not
want to provide one for your hotel, then you do not need to provide one.
Fat people then can not go to your hotel.
You will then lose that business.
That will be your decision.
I don't need the state getting involved with this.
This will be, if you would like to provide this.
But nobody will provide it then probably.
Okay.
Right?
Well, now Fatty has to lose weight. Or maybe we just admit that once you become morbidly
obese there are certain things that you have to cross off your bucket list without doing
it.
But hold on. It's not just the people that are disabled
that we want to help that get hit in the crossfire.
Here's honestly the way I would like our society to work.
I don't have handicap ramps at my house.
And the government does not require me to have handicap ramps at my house. The government does not require me to have handicap ramps at my house.
I do, however, have a mom that's in a wheelchair and that means when she comes to visit, it's
up to me and stepdad to, or me and brother-in-law, Christoph, to get her up the, put her in the
chair. brother-in-law, Kristoff, to get her up the, put her in the chair, someone goes up top,
someone goes down low, and it's, and it's, it ends up being ten stairs altogether, and
next thing you know, we're sitting by the pool having a little tap water, because we
don't like to splurge.
So that's that. Yeah. And what I would like and that what
I would hope is A, if somebody is in a wheelchair that they might have people that they travel
with such as my stepdad travels with my family member. Yeah, he knows he has to help her
out of the car, set up the wheelchair, get her in a wheelchair.
And then there really should just
be lifeguards, good Samaritans, and just human beings
who sees a person in a wheelchair and says,
let me help hold the door open for you.
Let me help you.
Interestingly, it's sort of Jim Jeffries show legit
is sort of in that zone.
Let's not treat disabled people so fragile.
Let's bring them on.
Let's bring them on board.
I would hope that if there was a, and I not only hope, I know this to be true.
If there was a person in a wheelchair who wanted to sit in the swimming pool and you know again there's a couple
things I reject the notion that everyone gets to do everything hmm I if you are
either 800 pounds or you're confined to a wheelchair there are certain things
that you're not going to be able to participate in.
There are things that I cannot participate in.
Right.
Childbirth, lactation.
Oh, you did that.
I'm working on it.
We did that together.
What I'm saying is this.
There are things I can't dunk a basketball.
I was coaching my son's basketball team yesterday.
I was looking up at the rim and I thought, I really wish I could dunk this basketball,
but I don't get to.
I'm not tall enough.
I don't have a good enough vertical leap.
I'm not good enough.
They could lower the rim for me, but that's not their job.
That's not the point.
And it's not the point.
It's not their job.
But I mean, there are certain things we are limited by as a society. There
are certain things that certain people are limited by. If you're going to be born with
a certain abnormality or a car wreck is going to put you into that condition, there are
going to be certain things that you're going to have to deal with and certain things you
may not be able to do such as go to a Vegas swimming pool.
It's possible.
Now, if you were not to accept that premise and you were going to try to make it an equitable
circumstance and let the free market manage it and not the state, it's kind of an interesting
example of where the limits of the free market.
First off, sorry, I think people are decent.
I think if there were several dozen people sunning themselves by the pool and you saw
a guy with a wheelchair pull up to the edge and say, could somebody give me a little help
here, I think there'd be 12 people that popped up and one over there, if not just to look
good in front of chicks, popped up and helped the guy in.
I know that.
I've seen him hold doors.
I know people when asked to do the right thing.
Right.
And that's the...
You and I are sort of libertarian, but we can sit in judgment on both sides, but that's
the liberal agenda is that people are bad.
I need to be forced to be good.
That's sort of their basic sort of
Attitude people are you can't trust people. We need laws. We need
Things in place to make people be good. They're so evil. Yeah, I mean they never discuss it that way
People need to be forced to do the right thing and everything needs to be equal at all times and everyone needs
You have to force it because people won't do it. People are not to be trusted.
So I believe people are very good. I know that I have, I think they're out of it, but
I don't think they're criminals and I think they're good. I've taken a wallet, I've removed all ID from the wallet,
I put $100 in the wallet, I put a little sticker on it that said, if found, please call this number,
and I've dropped it all over the city. When have you done this?
Well, I had my lackeys to it. When did you do this?
I did it on my radio show. I said, I want to know.
And I didn't go to Beverly Hills.
I went to all parts.
You know, I did some of the valleys.
What percentage of the time did people call?
100%.
100%.
Interesting.
You want to know why?
People are good.
No.
They, when given the opportunity to do the right thing, they do the right thing.
If somebody says, here's a wallet and there's no number on it, then
they're not going to do anything. Hold on. They're not going to make up a bunch of posters
that said, I found this wallet on the state, show a picture of the wallet and put it up
around town. They don't have that kind of time. But as I say to people all the time,
I think criminals work. Walk around sidewalks looking down, seeing if someone dropped a wallet?
That's not how criminals work.
Who's going to find your wallet?
A non-criminal.
Criminals commit crimes.
They don't walk around looking for things on the ground.
I'm still surprised it's 100%.
I would have predicted 90%.
We did it 10 times, 10 people called back, all 100 bucks in there.
And same with the cell phone.
So you put your number a number
Put a number you would like people to call on your wallet Matt
Write that down tell Matt to write that down my I got a new wall. I didn't do it
I'm gonna know old one did yeah, you lose your wallet
Someone will call you because they now are people write your number on your wallet. They're staring it
They're looking at it in the face now.
They have to do it. So people will do the right thing. Nine times out of ten. Now, if
you're going to, people will recycle. If you put the recycling bin on top of the mountain
and we have to scale a mountain to get the recycling bin, we're probably not going to
do it. But if you get the, what do you call it, the corollarama, recyclerama?
Recyclerola.
The recyclerola.
Yes.
Next to your kitchen sink, you're going to do it every time.
Yeah.
Recyclerola.
So you make things easy on people and also some sense of satisfaction versus I will sit
back and let the government handle everything,
which then makes you sort of think, which now, meaning, good, I'll give you an example,
good Samaritan stuff, people see a car on fire by the side of the road, they'll jump
out and try to help.
Now when I see an accident on the side of the road, I think, well, I'll bet 10 people
already called 911 on their cell phone.
I'm much less proactive or reactive now than I was before.
There's another step now.
It's like, well, probably only one of them got through and this one is still on hold,
so I better get out of the car.
Either way, there's that sense where you can sort of sit back and let the guys on Capitol
Hill figure this one out, or there's a sense of help your neighbor community take care
of people.
I've said it before on this show, Alexis de Tocqueville in 1824, a Frenchman looking at
America felt the greatest risk to this country was paternalism.
That people become, they start relying on the government to do everything for them and that was the greatest risk to the system.
How could you have seen that? That's amazing. But let me ask something. There is a limit,
there's an interesting limit of free market here though. So let's say, okay, you want
to help disabled folk use the pool. You don't want to create laws. You want to leave it
up to the free market. Most of the pools start rejecting it. I don't want that in my pool. You don't want to create laws. You want to leave it up to the free market. Most
of the pools start rejecting it. I don't want that in my pool. I want the hot chicks running
around. I want that to be that my sort of marketing marquee. You could then argue, well,
now there's an opportunity for somebody to come in and get all the business of the people
who are disabled. But then you become that pool.
And I would argue that pool is not going to get a lot of good business.
No, it's not. Okay. So the market is not going to solve this problem. Most likely
not. So either. So the only two possibilities are you reject the idea these people can use
the pool, which is your position. Well, no, no, no, I disagree. I think if there were,
you know, 20 casinos and 20 pools pools and there were plenty of fat people
and plenty of disabled people that do go to Vegas
or people with certain difficulties
medically who could use this device,
I think saying we had one of these
would attract an audience and probably a sort of loyal,
there'd be a certain loyalty where those people would
stay at that hotel each and every time.
But yes, I do agree.
But it might erode some of your other business.
In essence, what you're saying.
Yes.
So either the state has to do it or you have to say, well, we have to rely on the goodness
of others and not everyone can do everything.
Yes.
I'm not sure it's right.
I'm not sure it's right.
Not everyone can do everything as I'm not sure is right. Not everyone can do everything I'm fine with.
There are people who not everyone can go to college, not everyone can travel abroad, not
everyone can afford a car with 13 airbags.
They lead a less fulfilling life, at least by your definition, than you do.
But they can't afford it.
And if you want to go global on this, forget about swimming pools, people don't have water
to drink.
You know what I mean?
No one is guaranteed anything.
That's the first part that I would like to discuss.
People do this thing where they go go people have a right to education
Every child should have access to top-notch
education health care
Nutrition. No, you don't You don't have a right to all that you really don't
You it'd be nice if you did, but you don't have a right
To that, you know top-notch educate you don't have a right to that. You know, a top notch education,
you don't have a right for that.
It's for yours, you can go out and earn it.
And we should strive for it for everybody.
It'd be nice, but a lot of people
aren't gonna get into it,
and a lot of people don't deserve it,
don't need it, and frankly aren't up to it.
They're just not up to it.
I know a lot of folks out there that just aren't up to it.
They don't deserve it.
And if you put them in that environment, they would drown.
Pardon the pun.
And as far as, you know, healthcare, no.
I feel the same way.
You want to go, you want to chain smoke and drink and not get insurance and not floss.
That's your business, but it's not my business to make sure that you have top notch, whatever.
If you're not willing, listen, I was uninsured for lion's share of my life and I had money
that I could have put aside for a health care plan every month. But instead I
paid it to the groundlings because I was 25, I was strong as a buck, I felt good
and I thought I'd rather pay the groundlings maybe one day have a career
in show business. Then buy health care. No and then you know whatever union I was
forced to fucking join, communist union asshole stuffed me into
Then they could fucking handle it. Okay. All right, and it turned out I was right
I didn't have any major health whatever's but I had a couple of I had a couple of bouts of whatever and I went to
County USC and I got in line. Well, that's the entire healthcare system is gonna be like that coming up
Yeah, yeah, look forward to that. That'd be awesome. Why were you late?
I had to, sorry.
I had to do a, after we're finished today, I have to do a whole bunch of pickup shoots
for, first off, no real good excuse.
No real good excuse. I had to bring wardrobe from five days of shooting that I needed to collect because
we need to pick up all these things.
Shooting what?
Ah, some home improvement show.
Okay.
So I had to go collect, I had to go find the pictures that they sent me of all my different
shirts and then I had to go find five days
worth of wardrobe and I just didn't really.
They did the, we're going to come over here and shoot the OTF or whatever on the fly and
I thought, oh, I'll just come over and shoot it, but I didn't know we're shooting five
days worth so I got up this morning.
So OTFs are these things where people, whenever you see like a survivor, they're sitting on
a rock going, yeah, that bitch was, I was going to, that's all an OTF that they produce
those whole things.
They shoot piles and piles of that shit.
It's almost fucking worthless.
And I, and at some point get annoyed and tell them that's fine.
Right away.
They have enough.
Right away.
No, no, I'll give the first five answers.
The thing that's always funny on those OTFs and any of those things is, especially when
you're standing next to them, where they go, please work the question into the answer.
So if somebody said, why did you drop out of high school?
Don't go, my stepdad was leaning on me to go to work.
Go, I dropped out of high school because my stepdad was leaning on me to go to work.
And then they go, all right, let's do it.
And then they go, tell me how you celebrated your 30th birthday.
I had a ton of fun. I'd stop
Yeah, you have to work the question in I
Celebrated my 30th birthday by having a ton of fun. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's keep moving
This time but remember work the question into the answer
How did you get your black eye?
This Puerto Rican dude came up on me, hold on, let's stop for a second.
You have to do this with you?
Not me.
I always just watch them do it with other people.
I realized that having a discussion with somebody about something moments before you do it means little well either means nothing
Oftentimes is zero. Yeah oftentimes
Oftentimes is zero. It's an interesting thing though. It's it's like I used to work with people
I'd go throw that right cross and then they throw that right cross and I'd see their left hand pull down to their hip
And I say now let's do it.
Take that left hand, keep it up at your cheek
and they'd go, okay.
And then left hand right back, right down to the hip.
And I'd say, okay.
Now let's take that left hand and really focus
on keeping it on your cheek as you throw that right cross
and then it'd go right down to the hip again.
And then I'd say, okay, touch your cheek as you throw that right cross and then it would go right down to the hip again and then I'd say, okay, touch your cheek.
Do not stop touching your cheek.
Make it like there's an electrical current passing through your hand to your cheek and
it can't be broken for a second.
Now throw that right cross.
Now we're about 50% down to the waist again.
And I realized, I remember one time I just said to someone,
Hey, put your fucking hand up and keep it on your cheek. And they're like, what the
fuck? And I was like, I told, just told you 11 times in a row to do this. You're not physically
capable of manual processing this information. Keep it on your cheek.
I would argue that motoric stuff is even easier to adjust too than purely cognitive. Yeah, like motoring.
Some yes, some no.
Depends how much muscle memory got involved with this.
All the time.
Literally not capable of hearing what I just said.
All the time on the calls we deal with, they go, okay, I'm with my husband, I can't get
a job, I got to get this fixed.
They go, okay, I get it, I get it.
Here's what you need to do.
Get that fixed.
Yeah, well, I'm with my husband, I have to get this out.
Yeah, yeah.
And they'll repeat the same thing over and over and over.
It's really interesting.
Interesting, yeah.
It's very interesting.
All right, quick, do you have a call that you like?
And let's not just shout the person's name out, because that's not what you call a good
pod.
I want you to really sell something.
Oh, Jane.
We got Georgia?
No, no, Jane is coming back from treatment for alcoholism and have trouble dealing with
the parents now that she's back in her home.
Interesting.
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Yeah, we got your phone calls lined up.
There's Dr. Khrusky over there.
Drew, I'll save it for another show.
Oh, screw it.
This picture of my dad, I had him over for Father's Day.
Do you know any other individual that is wired this way?
My dad came over for Father's Day.
We sat by the pool. Sunday, of course, came over about noon.
We sat by the pool for about two hours.
In that time period, I said, �Would you like a beer?� He said, �No, I'm good.�
I said, �Coffee?� �No, I'm good.� �Drink?? No, I'm good. Drink, iced tea, soda, any water, anything at all?
No, I'm good, I'm good.
I said, all right, well, we'll get some cheese
and crackers put out here and some grapes
or something to nibble on.
Okay, I'm fine.
Then we had cheese and the crackers
and the plate out in front.
And then I cracked myself a beer and we sat outside.
It was a nice day.
The sun was shining.
We had a nice visit.
At the end of the day, not one cheese, piece of cheese, not one cracker, not one grape,
not one strawberry, not one beer.
Not a certain point.
I was waiting for about an hour in where he said, take a glass of water.
But no, and my dad will drink a beer and will enjoy a beer.
He's not sober.
Did it feel past progressive like he was withholding?
No, I just realized it's his wiring.
I know what he's doing, he's training for death.
Death will be a lateral move for him
Lateral move will not be a step down. It's a little it's a big step down for many people
He you think well he dies he's not gonna miss beer or tap water or great. Come on
I mean, I honestly mean a sort of lateral. I understand
It's effectively a lateral move when you withhold anything enjoyable, but
you think he's actually preparing?
I do think he is.
I mean, I think he's been doing that for a long time.
What?
Well, I don't mean he's out, you know, he's sowing the lining of his coffin, but I just
mean he has removed himself from the trappings of the world that he's
going to leave.
And thus when he leaves, he's not going to miss much.
No way.
What do you mean no way?
I think people, their brains deteriorate a little bit and they lose hunger and thirst
and things like that.
My dad has never, my dad has almost never been that, my dad literally, as I said, for
dinner, it's like, what's for dinner? Cottage cheese and raisins? Like that's, my dad would as I said for dinner, it's like what's for dinner?
Cottage cheese and raisins?
Like that's, my dad would eat that for dinner.
I mean when he was in his 40s.
Was he preparing for death then?
He was never, I don't know if he never was in life but I'm just saying Father's Day.
For you it seems like he's preparing for death.
Sitting on a patio and you literally go two hours without a cup of coffee or beer or a glass of wine
or whatever.
I think he had a big brain injury.
I think it's more to do with that.
Oh, no, no, no.
He's been that way his whole life.
Well, I guess he's been that tendency but to be to this extreme.
No.
His further aging stuff.
No, no.
I mean, I'm sure it's not helping, but he's lucid.
He's fine.
So if I were to say, hey, why not the old man, why not enjoy a little taste of the mangreya?
No, no, no.
I'm preparing for death.
No, he's not.
He wouldn't say that.
He might never taste mangreya.
Bad example.
You're right.
But...
Well, to be fair, as long as I didn't mention it had anything to do with you, I just drank
it.
I'm just saying, do you understand what it's like to be raised by that guy?
That is your worst nightmare.
Yes, I do as a matter of fact.
I've heard him come out of your mouth like one or two times.
But I don't know if you know how severe he is.
It's not his brain injury.
That's how he is.
I think I do.
I think I know.
He can literally sit on a patio and my stepmom who has had not had a brain injury she made it
for an hour and then she said she'll have some tap water I thought she seemed
like somebody the sort of I think little Juad of Eve no I think she's fallen in
with him a little bit like been beaten into it yes so it's two people sure they
weren't trying to restrict the access to anything that you might offer as
some sort of?
No, no, no.
Everyone, I wish it was something that would suggest something.
This is nothing.
You know, listen, I did a podcast.
Two hours of nothing.
With your wife a few weeks ago, just to air it, and we had Cheryl Aradon here as a therapist.
She wants to do EMDR on you to see if she can unhook some of this replay mechanism you have
about your parents.
I talked to Lynette about that.
You want to do it?
Yeah, why not?
All right, we got it.
Chris, set that up.
Chris, Gary, EMDR, Adam Kroll, Sheryl Laret.
Yeah, I have no problems with that.
It'll be interesting for you.
No, Lynette, we're talking about it.
Lynette said, you should be hypnotized.
And I said, that doesn't work on me.
And she said, what do you mean doesn't work on you?
I said, I'm smart.
I can't be.
You're in a quasi-hypnotistic state.
Dumb people get hypnotized.
The dumber you are, the faster you go under.
Believe you me, it's hard to do on smart people.
And it's hard to do on people that are awake, like me.
Like, it just doesn't.
I can imagine. But the EMDR is a sort of way. That I would try. Yeah, yeah. That'd be interesting for you. And it's hard to do on people that are awake like me like it just doesn't
Yours is it so that I would try yeah, yeah, I bet be interesting for you. All right, let's go to calls Let's go touch it with the mic. Yeah. All right
Put it put it under my yeah must be
Yeah, all right, but that's not on him that's don't expect That's you guys. He's gonna he's not gonna get that one, right?
Alright, you ready to rock? Yeah, Jane
Jane
Hi Jane
That sounded bad Jane in New York
Let's put our holes go to Dante Dante, just because I like the name.
Jane is one of Jefferson Airship's best songs.
It's a little reference to Dr. Drew's band pole there.
But Jefferson Starship, I believe has a song called Jane.
Now, do you understand where I got the starship plane?
Yes, to be fair, it was Jefferson Airplane,
then it became Jefferson Starship.
Right.
I knew that somehow intuitively, and I never liked either.
Jefferson Dirigible.
Look, a couple of decent songs in there.
Dante?
Yes.
What's going on, Dante?
Not too much.
Ace man, what is going on?
You don't know how big, like, ideal it is for me to finally talk to you.
Well thanks Dante, I appreciate that. Callin' from Georgia, 26, what's going on?
Um, yeah, so basically I'm not quite sure what the issue is. Um, I've been in my relationship for quite some time now. And everything's going well, everything's going good.
But for some reason, when I get in the bedroom,
it's just not like, I don't feel it as much as I used to.
I can still do it and thing went out.
But I got to kind of build myself to do it.
I got it.
It's an interesting question.
How long you guys been together
For years you have kids No married
No, okay, so Adam I am of the opinion
That those kinds of feelings when they go away are very significant and and that one of the keys to
Really a relationship kind of being
Renewing and having a longevity, is that that kind
of spark, even if it's faint, stays?
Do you agree?
Yes.
I mean, look, if you want to really just sort of distill a relationship down, what's the
difference between you and your aunt or you and any woman you work with who you're not attracted to or whatever
you're not attracted to them and
What would it be like in the bedroom with any of the other?
Millions of women you don't have an interest in well
That's sort of what makes a relationship a relationship the part where you talk and you go out to eat and you socialize
That I do that with my mom.
Right.
This would make a romantic relationship is the sexuality component.
Yeah.
I mean, people get into all other kinds of nuances of it, but it's really the fact that
you are sexually attracted to this person and you're going to go out to dinner and then
fuck.
Yeah.
Now, how does that work?
Yeah.
Dinner then fuck?
I think so. OK.
Now, you could argue that a relationship,
particularly marriage, has been an economic unit that didn't
include love and sexual attraction.
We're not talking about that piece.
We're talking about a romantic relationship, which
you choose to be in.
When it loses that spark, it's significant.
And it's telling you something, and I
think you might want to listen to it. And would bet you're cheating too or at least heading that
direction. That's different though you know I'm a guy I'm 26 you know. Alright so you're
gonna that was a yes. And so here's the deal don't hurt her
end the relationship go out and date lots of people, do what you
want to do, but you don't get to have your cake and eat it too, especially when you're
no longer really even that attracted to it.
It's not fair.
Well, the thing is that like, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but the thing is that like,
I mean, I still like, I mean like every now and then I come home, she be wearing something
nice now, still be like, okay, you know what I'm saying, but I do like getting it on.
Well, but you go one way or the other, then recommit to this and start digging into that
attraction or go out and have a bit with lots of girls, one or the other.
Dante, let me just say this.
You've been together for four years.
You're not married.
Right.
No kids.
It doesn't feel like you're planning on getting married to this one, does it?
Yeah, I am.
I'm just waiting for me to get some more does it? Yeah, I am. I'm just waiting, you know,
I'm waiting for me to get some more money together
and then that's it.
So you see yourself living with this woman
settling down for the rest of your life.
Yeah, because I mean,
I find that there's so many women out here
so like loose and whatnot.
And like, you know,
they just say I was crazy, promiscuous past. And, you know, I was kind whatnot and like you know it is I was crazy promiscuous
pass and you know I was kind of crazy you know daddy issues and whatnot and so
like I mean finding her was like a gem. Okay well look I you know I'm not sure
what Dante's message is. It's mixed. She looks good in her underpants sometimes.
I'm not as into it. Look, let me say this.
Maybe we've been selling people a sort of bill of goods here,
which is unfair to say that four years into having sex
with the same person, Drew is different.
He's a man of extreme passion.
Extreme.
Extreme passion. Most people...
You'd be embarrassed, Chris, with that. Bothered him.
He's a passionate, passionate man. Most people...
He had told me eye contact.
...that have been with the same person sexually for a number of years fall into some sort of pattern that is not the thing of cologne commercials.
It's not inspiring, you know what I mean?
Like if you want to go, like let's put, I'll put it to you this way Dr. Drew.
Most guys would probably have a more spirited sexual experience and be more attracted to a
Less attractive person a person they were I'll give you an alright. Here's what we got
I'm about the Coolidge effect the Coolidge fact. Yeah, we'll get into that in a second. Yeah. Yeah anyone
Anyone who saw the white shadow knows about the coolage effect. It's a little joke.
I'll explain in a second.
Here's what I'm saying.
Let me throw this out there, Drew.
Dig.
Dig.
Let's just say you're at a party.
And you were at a party five years ago.
And you were single.
And there were some other single ladies there.
And you see your gal. It were some other single ladies there.
And you see your gal, it's going to be your gal, you're very attracted to her, she's
a good nine.
And you go up to her, she's with her friend.
Her friend's a six and a half or seven, but you're going for the nine.
So you're very attracted to the one girl.
The other girl, she's attractive, but not as attractive as your girl. So you go to your girl and you offer to buy her a
drink, you tell a joke and she gives you her digits, as they say. And next thing you know,
you're out of...
This always sounds like they're giving them their fingers.
You're out on a date and having a good time. Four months in in she's moved in with you you guys are living together two bedroom apartment
One make the office one room extra rooms your office sleeping in the same bed, you know doing it having a good time
Now all of a sudden, you know, you've had a couple episodes where you went into the bathroom
She funked it up pretty good for you before you got there
episodes where you went into the bathroom, she funked it up pretty good for you before you got there.
It didn't turn the fan on.
It didn't close the door.
Didn't do it.
Didn't follow the Corolla technique.
You've had all that.
Now it's five years in and you see her friend and somebody says, you got one sex, you get
to have sex with one of them tonight.
Who's it going to be?
We should call this the Schwarzenegger effect.
Yes. Forget the Coolidge effect. Just call it the Schwarzenegger effect. Well, most guys I know would go with the new who's a
lesser. They're not as attracted to her. They don't have the bond with her. They don't have anything with her.
It's just the fact that I had sex with this one person
328 times over the last four years or whatever it was, and now this one person I've never
had sex with.
Now, I'm definitely more attracted to this other person because I made my decision at
that party five years ago to steer toward this one person and have no interest in this
other person, but yet five years on, boom.
Now, that's how most guys are wired.
And if you expect to be X amount of years in and have that sort of
new dick smell going sexually you're setting yourself up for disappointment
now what you can have it's possible it's possible but what you can have is you
can have a good sex life enjoyable sex life consistent and everything else but
there are other factors that are
going to start coming in, especially when we start having kids and things like that.
If you're setting the bar, I think that's what a lot of guys do.
They go, oh man, when we first met, man, it was awesome, man.
We're doing it in every room.
Now we're just settled into this pattern and I'm not as into it.
Of course you're not as into it.
You're not as into it as you were the first couple of times.
Nobody's into it as much as they were the first couple of times.
If you're going to put the bar up there, then what you're going to do is you're going to
start setting yourself up for excuses to cheat and the relationship when relationship when maybe you just set that sexual bar up
a little too high.
Although I would argue it's possible to keep it there.
Understand, man of passion.
Man of passion.
All right, let's take a little extendo break.
Hmm?
Yep.
What about Jane?
We'll get to them.
She'll jump back on.
She'll jump back on.
Jane?
Hello?
What's going on? Hey, hello. You can hear me. Yeah, we
got you now. Okay. Hey, Dr. Drew. Hey, Adam. Dr. Drew, I called into your podcast a while
back. I was at 25 at the time and we kind of talked about young people in the program
and high bottom alcoholics. But anyway, it wasn't, whatever, when we talked,
it clearly wasn't enough, and I ended up going to rehab
when I just got back about two weeks ago.
Right.
Apology, apology, apology.
And I'm back home living with my mom and dad,
and it's just like, I think we're both trying,
but they're just doing a lot of things that if there are any
times that I'm having a hard time or that I really want to drink, it's because of things
they're doing.
Right.
How long were you in treatment for?
I was in detox for six days and then I was in rehab for 28 days.
Okay.
How about going to sober living?
I mean versus living with mom and dad.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean I thought about it and I looked into it while I was there, because a lot of people
were like, it's probably not the best idea for you to go home.
Listen, no, no.
Jane, they didn't say it's probably not the best idea.
They said, don't go home.
You're going back to the same environment where you used.
They're not in Al-Anon.
They haven't changed.
You're not going to make it.
Go to Sober Living.
That's what they told you.
That's what they said.
Yeah.
Wow, group.
And that's what I'm telling you, because that's what any's what they told you. No, yeah, that's what they said. Wow, Drew.
And that's what I'm telling you because that's what any treatment professional would tell
you. This is not an environment where you can stay sober. And now you're finding, oh
shit, they were right. So I'm an alcoholic. I'm going to do it my way.
All right. Listen to Dr. Drew.
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