The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Tiger Woods Envy and Private Jet Therapy (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: June 1, 2024

The fellas talk about how much they envy Tiger Woods gold game and of course the jokes ensue, also there's a method of therapy they discuss called "Private Jet Therapy"...you won't want to miss this!

Welcome back to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. I'm your host Big Brother Jake aka Jake Warner. Once again we have a great show for you. First up, Episode 231 titled Tiger Woods Envy which aired on April 18, 2015. The fellas talk about celebrities and infidelity. From the days of Sinatra to Tiger Woods, Tiger, Tiger Woods, y'all, things have definitely changed. Listen to their take on this.

Listen. When you watch that Sinatra doc and he's like, well, Sinatra was fucking Jeannie Lynn over here but also was JFK and she was well actually she was Sinatra's ex-girl and now he's fucking her but Sam Giacchino is fucking her too and he's a mob boss so you know the Kennedys you know now Robert Kennedy was not you know happy because he's trying to bust Giancano. He had to tell you, hey, you got to stop fucking...

The mob guy's got a guma. He's married too, I'm sure. Sam Giancano is a... He's a married guy. I'm sure he's a married guy. But anyway, he's a guma. You know the chick he's fucking? The mob guy?

The President of the United States is fucking the same chick. So his brother Who's attorney general is like, hey bro I'm trying to fuck the guy with the Wayfairs over the guy over there. I'm trying to indict this guy. Yeah on racketeering charges and You fucking his girlfriend is kind of It's mudding the water just a little bit Your name keeps coming up. So maybe once you just pull out

And and stop stop banging the mob boss So weird this is oh This is why whenever they do the Camelot thing, I'm like, yeah, he was bringing interns into the pool and telling them to blow. Guys worked for him. Injected with amphetamines and opiates. I don't care about that. I'm just telling you. So now I agree with you, Drew, in terms of the technology.

Not so much the technology, you know, oh yeah, you brought up now there's a camera in the parking lot and we can see surveillance film. We may or may not check it. I think the argument is what is, the argument really can revolve around what's your price. In other words, at what threshold is somebody going to take that risk? Like a million dollars becomes Linda, I mean, Kate Upton and a million dollars to go to the same. You know what I'm saying?

No, I agree. And here's the deal. Back in the day, Sinatra just banged around, then he went home. You don't worry about it. And there were no consequences. Sometimes a newspaper would write something, whatever. Who the fuck cares? I'm balls deep in a starlight, you know?

And then he'd just go home and his wife had to sort of work around it. Yeah. Had to deal with it. Nowadays. By the way, they would even, they would sort of defend it, so he's a special man.

If you want to be with a special man, you've got to be willing to put up with this kind of thing. Like, what? Fucking sex. Especially the fucking narcissistic sex addict. Well, it is. No, I've always said, we fucked up.

By the way, Gary, you got to figure out California law because my theory is that whenever this you're going to get half of the empire thing came around, guy started putting their dicks back in their pants. Because I really think Sinatra's thing would be like, you know, oh, you want a divorce? Have fun living in an apartment back in Hoboken. Well, it's not that anymore. You have to move out of the ranch that you purchased in Toluca Lake and you can go live in an apartment over there.

There's something changed along the way. Well, it's probably good. It is. From that standpoint, anyway. It's good from that standpoint. I don't think it's good from the wifey standpoint in terms of on the ball. And, okay, and that's interesting, but you always complain about that.

We know what that topic is. No, no, no, I think what we did. I understand. Is we said to the wives of the privileged, look, here's your golden parachute. If you ever feel like this is not going the way you'd like to go, you can remain here and the guy's just gonna leave

and you'll take half of whatever it is he's killed himself to earn over the last 15 years or whatever it is. But mind you, the same thing goes the other way if the women's my primary breadwinner. I love it when it comes to that. I know, I know, I love it. That's my favorite story.

But, because I love it how fucking out right, I agree the chicks get, because like, yeah, you feeling this? You feeling this, sister? I like that. But here's the deal. There is no group on the planet, it does not work. You know, look at the American Indians.

Hey, here's a nice chunk of land, Don't worry. You don't have to work Great. Give me the fire water. I'll see if I can get diabetes Honestly what we did to the people on the island of bikini We moved them all off the fucking bikini island because we wanted to blow it up Yeah, I do want to do a little testing on an a bomb. So. So we're like, hey, islanders, good news. Bad news, you gotta leave. You're not gonna live off of fishing anymore. Good news is we'll put you on another island.

I'm gonna just give you a bunch of booze and a stipend and you can hang out there. Next thing you know, the guys are fat shooting pool all day. You can't say to any group, men, women, I don't care, whatever your nationalities, how hard working you are, whatever, here's the underlying current of this relationship. If you ever find yourself not liking it, you get the house. You get the kids. You get the money. You get everything, and not expect it to affect them. Everything affects everything,

I mean, right? We need to be more diligent about that because a law of unintended effects. But Tiger, I would argue, not so happy having fucked his family up and all that. I would say he'd be a much happier guy. I mean, how much? You've seen his wife. Where's he going? What's the deal? Listen, there's nothing better than different.

I understand that, but at a certain age it becomes like... No, no, at a certain age. At a certain age. I agree. Unfortunately, when Tiger was doing this, he was 32. That ain't the age yet. 52 is more the age. Yeah,, look he married a very very beautiful blonde exquisitely beautiful But as I think historically We've you know, Jackie. Oh was no five either. Right? It's I got the power I'm in another city and I do what I want and by the way

part of You know, let's face it people, you know guys do the Part of becoming the youngest person ever win the Masters or the president United States. It's not all about driving a Ferrari Well, it's why you drive the Ferrari So I'm driving some fresh bus why you do like five All right, Greg Yeah, sorry. What's going on? Let's do line five. Okay, line five. All right. Greg? Yeah.

Sorry. What's going on? What's going on? What's up? You there? Yeah. What's up? Oh, who's this? Adam? Yes. Who'd you call, Greg?

Adam, Dr. Drew. Big fan, big fan. Adam loved Roadheart. I bought it, sat down, watched it, made my wife watch it. Loved it as much as any Albert Brooks movie. Oh, wow. My praise. Did your wife enjoy it? My wife loved it and her parting comment was a very, very sweet movie as well, beyond all the jokes.

Oh. Beyond all the jokes. He wasn't gone for sweet. Adam, I've heard you talk about surgery in the past and how you were hanging doors a day later I'm trying to get my mind ready for upcoming shoulder surgery 13 hours later, but yes technically the following day the only thing I can compare it to

That I went through was my vasectomy five years ago when the guy said you'll be fine in two days and two weeks later It looked like they forced me to play goalie in the NHL all-star game with With my hands tied behind my back and my testicular region to repeatedly pounded So you paint pictures any advice going into shoulder surgery and I know Like you've mentioned it's you know me thinking of the now now versus the future now And this is all very easy and very normal Here's the thing hold on a second of the now now versus the future now and this is all very easy and very normal and slow down here. Yeah, yeah.

So here's the thing, hold on a second, Drew. I've said it many times, everybody reacts differently to pain. You and I react- And not to pain, but to surgery. You and I react very differently to the exact same procedure. For me, I try to explain to people, even though I am technically a hero, this is not intestinal fortitude that got me out of the bed the next day

and some sort of John Wayne based grit. You just could. I woke up and I went, I feel fine. And Lynette said, where are you going? You just got surgery. And I said, I feel fine. And by the way, if I don't feel fine, I'll stop doing what I'm doing.

My body will tell me to stop if in fact I need to stop but until then because I feel fine I'm gonna the other hand was having violent rigors and couldn't move and couldn't sit up and it was a mess and by the way I'm thinking after having my prostate surgery that my main reaction is to anesthesia I really really very passionate passionate but lightweight and I My main reaction is to anesthesia. I react very lightly to anesthesia. Passionate, but lightweight. And I swear to Christ, it took me six months to come back from anesthesia. I'm not kidding.

Fuck you, it was not fun. So our puss friend Greg might have a similar thing, that's all I'm saying. Yeah, well also, Greg is building this thing up to such an extent. No, I think he's saying he saying is not he's like pushing it away It's no no, but he's saying when I had my last surgery This is what happened and this is how I react and now I'm very much concerned about it Go I It's gonna be difficult because people react differently and the thing is there is a physiological component to this but there's also

psychological And the thing is there is a physiological component to this but there's also a psychological Component to it. There's a component. All right component. I wish and well, I wish it were more psychological Well, you are probably a little more in touch Than most right. Okay, but for a lot of people there's a physiological thing. Yeah, what I'm saying at 30 psychological Yeah, I woke up the next morning and knew I had surgery knew everyone's told me to lay in bed For two days that was fine But I also knew that I felt completely fine and I did not let my psychological override my physiological My physiological felt fine. I just got up went to work Yeah, and I also trust things which is I know doctors tell everyone to stay in bed for two days

Why do they give a fuck? You know, I mean if you're a professional skateboarder and you get a fracture of your Of your pelvis or your form or whatever the doctor tell you no more skateboarding Okay, no more doctoring. You know, I mean this how I make my living Certain oh, I mean no more for good. Yeah, I mean sometimes others go stay off the skateboard It's like listen. That's, I can't stay home from work for six months. I have to go back.

I have to get up. I have to do things. In their mind, play it safe. So what they do is, well, this doesn't affect Adam Carolla. It does affect Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew, it affected for two weeks. Adam Carolla affected for 10 minutes. I'll meet you in the middle.

Stay in bed for a week. That's what I tell everybody. You listen to your body. Welcome back to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. Up next is episode 246, which aired on June 13, 2015. Adam and Drew have serious host and author Jude Angelini, aka Rude Jude. You know, Rude Jude from the Ginny Jones show. He used to come on there all the time in Act a Fool. Well, he came on the show and he never disappoints. They talk about Jude's feud with Chet Hanks, you know, the son of Tom Hanks with that crazy Jamaican accent he does and

all that stuff. It's hilarious the way this broke down. Take a listen. But I want to hear, I would like to hear the interview a little bit. Oh, okay. That caused all the controversy. Well, it looks like, which interview? I asked that. Yeah, yeah.

Can I say something? Yeah. Gary got up and left, by the way, so don't bug him until he gets back. I have a problem with people having a problem with Chet Hayes saying nigga. Well that's what I wanted to bring up because that's where a lot of the controversy is spinning. They sort of missed the part that you had to deal with and went this is right dude using the N word so liberally and he feels entitled to it because he claims it is his cultural privilege. So what do you say? It's generational first off. People like

me born in the 70s, it's still it was still a weird thing it was still very very much like You know, it was mostly black people said it but if you go to the hood man You see Mexicans saying that shit you see Puerto Ricans saying that shit. You see Asians saying that shit You see Arabs saying that shit. So it's kind of like it's a little more your rules are a little muddy second Malibu So it's kind of like it's a little your rules are a little muddy second Malibu You know the hood of Malibu not so much, but but it that's the thing It's like you can't pick and choose who gets to use the fucking word if you've been selling this word for the last 40 years through your culture you're selling me your clothes. You're selling me your language

You're selling me what you drink but you can do everything but not that word like NWA You know one of the biggest yeah Do what you do what I say not as I do type thing and I don't feel like you can have it both your for your African be black friends argue with you about this or they agree with you about it it I don't I mean it some people agree some people don't but like I agree with rude Jude in this sense that if you're gonna grow up on a steady diet of this culture and it's being fed to you and you're consuming it and you're buying it, I mean what you're doing is

you're consuming it and they're selling it to you then that's part of your thing whatever your skin color is. Like I don't say them I don't use it in my vernacular I don't shy away from it in a quote. Because yo, if I write something, I want you to quote me properly. I don't want you to fucking not quote me properly. So out of respect for whoever wrote that thing, I use the word. But to be fair, if you're reading it, you know, something with a shit or a fuck on television, you're going to edit it, you know.

This is true. This is true. But like, if we're not in TV, TV then like and I'm not disagreeing with you I'm being intentionally argumentative, but but but I just feel like your people the wrong way. I know Here's but here's what I've been saying for a million years Nobody gives a fuck if chet. What's this last? Head Hays says nigger. No, it really people people truly don't jet Hayes the other he goes by yeah People people really don't give a shit. I mean day to day not you not your kids not your wife

We have to pretend like we give a shit We just don't we don't really give a shit at the end of the day It's a rich kid. It's a rich son of a rich guy Who's using a word that we've announced is wrong because it makes us feel better about ourselves and at the end of the day it's not going to change anything or make a difference and we get these stupid debates and yes through you have to roll your eyes because you'd be off the fucking air if we didn't spend our lives arguing over nonsense

and think about it like this like you could you are not allowed to say a word because of your race. Isn't that racist? Yes. Yes. Listen, I'm not disagreeing with your argument. I'm just saying that we live in a time where the people that...

You're putting us in that time. Where people... We don't have to. There's a convention now. Right, but it's turning. Maybe. There's a convention now when people in a minority group lay claims to language, even that we,

I was giving you crap about transgender the other day, and now African-American, people say, you have to come to us, we'll tell you how to use these words, this language. And I'm just saying, that's the convention we live in. But let's get away with that, because that, in a way, is perpetrating this minority thing. You need special little treatment about this and that.

If you want to be equal, you gotta get the good and the bad equal. You don't get the fucking special privileges equal and then like, you can't just have... And here's the other thing. Think about it like this. Look, nigga is a bastardization of nigger it went from racist white motherfuckers calling black people that and is is used as a slur they flipped it and they're selling it back to those people's grandkids man

act like now you want walk away throw your hands up you fucking one you made these races fucking redneck motherfuckers call each other the word you've been calling you that they've been calling them right you won the game don't make money off it and you're fucking making money off of it like don't be butthurt walk away you won I know true words were overstated we have a little the interview by the way that we spoke of from rude Jude and Tom Hanks' son. there quietly minding my own business everyone was giving me the stink eye like I don't know that people was grilling me me and my my cash right here and then we go up to take a fucking

picture in the little photo booth security guard telling me that I'm not allowed to do that. Okay, so what would you you're not so celebrity, you're not Tom Hanks, you just came out of his dick bro. Why are you talking, you're not on the mic, shut the fuck up and leave, how about that? That's what this guy's trying to do. Nah nah nah, get the fuck gone. Alright, yeah, that's right guy. Yeah, that's right, get the fuck gone.

Yeah, he's over here yelling at me off mic, man. What did he say? I'm a tight ass, bro. Beat it. OK, I'm a dick. Fucking bail. Shit just got real in here. Thanks, man.

I appreciate you, man. Say it while you're walking. Thanks. Oh, now you're going to fight me. OK, beat it. Man, shit just got real in here. What's up with your boy, man? Bro, I don't even know what he said.

He wasn't supposed to say nothing. That's the whole point. I'm over here to talk to you, I don't know that guy. I don't know. Now wait, is that the guy Beverly Hills adjacent that he cruises with? Nah, nah, nah, he's my homie. Is he scary guy? You gotta get better friends, bro. He just looks like a frab.

Sometimes cats gotta know when to be quiet. Man, I hear that. I hear that. is for you to do this look like a brand new i was a cat t like sometimes cast i want to be quiet man i i i hear that i think you have some problems up front you know it's not kicked out and i had to come from the kitchen i had to come get you from the ticket that is uncomfortable for me to listen to that yeah i was sitting on it

is a bad moment or do you have just don't i i wish i would have handled better well first off inmate made for entertaining radio and satellite radio and secondly that's good i mean it's a good it's a good

gene to have the part where you go uh... i wish i would have done this differently or handle this better even in the in the face, especially of praise. It's one thing when somebody demands an apology because you wrote an email that was really shitty that got leaked out to the whatever, now you have to go up to the podium and say, I got a prepared statement in front of me that somebody else wrote, I wish I'd handled this differently.

Most people understand that part because they're fighting for their jobs. But just saying it is an interesting glimpse into your psyche because it's probably how you get out of a really shitty part of Detroit into having a book that's optioned by Mark Wahlberg, that the constant self-reflection, evaluation with the attempt at bettering. It's funny you say it because I went home that day and I had an awful day after that. I had an awful day. I couldn't get that off of my mind. I was like, God damn it, man.

That shit went south. And then I get all this praise for it. All right, man. Fucking whatever, man. Awesome. But but also always I mean, I mean, just to go a little more globally here, you grew up in a horrible circumstance and you now are in a much better circumstance in terms of where you are in your life. And it comes up, talking about the community that you come from and that we're talking

about formally with the N words and whatnot. This notion of, well, here's where you're born and here's where you're going to die and you don't stand a chance. I hate that message. And what I want is the message that's sent, what could I do? How could I improve? What can I do better? I hate it when the politicians get up there and go, you know, it's not a level playing

field and the cops are out to get you know, it's not a level playing field and the cops are out to get you and you don't stand a chance because of the color of your skin or whatever your last name is, and or your religion or whatever it is, or whoever your mom is or dad isn't. But anyway, moving on, you're stuck, you're screwed. Don't worry, we'll fix it.

But by the way, they never get around to fixing it. So you have something in you That said I need to fix this myself. Yeah, it's what is that? I just watched my like man out my old man is One of his he's got a he's got a lot of great things about him man Like I'm half him, you know, I mean like just like you're half your old man, you know, like I'm half That's fighting words, but I'm south now again, but I've watched I've watched him not take responsibility for his actions And I've watched how that's I've watched him play the victim. But and when you're the victim One you don't have to take responsibility because this happened to me, but

You're like a leaf floating down a river. You have no control of your life. I think I've said that before You're poet man. So so it's like yo, I You have to you have to yeah, we this is an unlevel playing field Yeah, this motherfucker like has it better than you you can't get away with the shit He's getting away with but you can win and if you can't win and go fucking kill yourself, man What are you here for? We'll be right back with more of the Adam and Dr. Drew show classics. And last up for today, we have episode 277 titled Private Jet Therapy, which aired on September 30th, 2015. Adam talks about the greatness of Howard Stern, and Drew breaks down his appearance on the show and

He shows a lot of love in this clip here. Check it out How are you doing Drew ski pulled up pretty good feeling good enjoyed your stern appearance Hmm. Yeah member. Yes, sir. You're on start Yeah, well as you listen to this obviously was it was earlier in the week, but on Monday, but yes. Yeah, people, I don't have too many bad outings with Stern because what Stern does is he does his homework, he researches things. They research the shit out of everything.

Well, to be fair, I mean look, you know, this thing, it's the same thing that I would get when I would tell people, I built this studio. You built it? Yeah. With your hands. You built it, so you did everything? You drove every nail? So you sunk the drywall screws?

Yeah. I have guys, we work together, I pay them. I believe it's not a lie for me to say, I built this studio. Absolutely. I pay them. I believe it's not a lie for me to say I built this studio. I never then preface it with every single fucking piece of joint compound and spackle that went on the wall was applied by these loving hands. It's not that. It's just I design it and I do some of the work and then I have other people do the work. And the reason I say that, because I don't like to talk about myself, is I don't think that Stern watches every movie, reads every book, and does whatever.

Right. He's the grand poobah. Yeah. And under his regime. They watch all of it. They do all the stuff. Yeah. And it's a top-down thing. I just said to Gary, hi Gary, my Gary 10 seconds ago, not Baba Bowie, you know we have a, we had a documentarian come in last week, I said where's the guy's DVD? And everyone's like, I don't know. I'm like, well we need it, go get it, let's go, let's go. It's, yeah. What was that? I don't think I can. I am trying to implement these policies. Yeah. The stern-esque policies.

Well, so that then when the guy comes in, literally either I will see it or someone else will see it and have notes and then you'll ask questions. I'm always amazed the depth and breadth of the research he has and that he's familiar with it. See, he knows exactly how to familiarize himself with he has, and that he's familiar with it. See, he knows exactly how to familiarize himself with enough of the stuff that he's got it ready to hand. You know what I'm saying? I think it's phenomenal the way he's, you know.

I say it every fucking time. Every time I do one of these goddamn radio junkets, it's the exact same thing. It's a bunch of radio or TV junkets. It's the exact same thing. It's a bunch of radio or TV junkets. It's the exact same thing. It's the guy who's in Market 371 and he's out there in New Mexico and he's, you know, so when you have, what theater you at? And for me it's 5.45 in the morning and I'm not sure what the name of the theater I'm at in New Mexico is, you know?

Oh, well, I end up with this. We'll go to my website and you can, okay, so and it's that Friday or Saturday and now you did a documentary about a guy on the road? No, I did a Newman documentary and then the other things and independent. Oh, independent. When's that coming out? No, it's been out for four months. So what's that coming out no it's been out for four months so what's that called and I was like this is how

you stay in New Mexico right you think the Stearns and the Kimmels and the whomevers don't do oh well now this guy's on top he doesn't do he can coast oh no oh no no no same prep same guy well and day in day out and to be fair sorry to burst your bubble but if when he was prepping for the show yesterday, the day you were on... It's impossible to do the math. When he was prepping for the show the day you were on, you were not his number one priority, let's just say.

He had Sidney Crawford roll in and immediately after you. And trust me, that was where he paid his, was focusing his attention, and yet he had a complete familiarity with all your stuff. Pretty amazing. Well, he has, he's assembled a crew and a protocol, and he's a part of that. The crew, I'm imagining, pulls the stuff from the book, watches the doc, does the this, does the that. here. It's will mostly it does a lot of research I don't know I don't know who all does and then they hand him the stuff and then he

Sifts through it and probably highlights the stuff he wants the same way with a late-night show or anything else now He has an interesting Position about podcasting that you affirmed, but I didn't think put a fine enough point on it. Well, why don't you reiterate? I will. His position on podcasting is nobody should do them, no one can make any money doing them, nobody can get a real audience doing them, except you, except Adam, which he's always given a little out for you, even then, even

you, he's skeptical, has actually got a pirate ship afloat. Well, can I say this, as long as we're talking about Howard Stern, he lives in a world and always has, where if he's not into it or doesn't know about it, it doesn't really exist. And we all are guilty of that to some degree. But even I, who didn't watch Breaking Bad, understand it's a phenomenon. In his mind, it doesn't really exist if he doesn't participate in it and or watch it. Yeah. So when you take a thing like Stern and let's say sports, complete disconnect, just, it's just complete, just not interested. And when he's not interested, it ain't there. Yeah. It's funny because I was talking, I was on the elevator ride down

with Ronnie the limo driver. I said Ronnie you watch this Paul Newman racing doc because he's a big car guy you're gonna like it I said I don't Stern likes Gotham he does he likes color books oh if you told him the new Star Wars trailers up on up on the Vimeo or you run he'd run for the computer but when it comes to cars or whatever it's just a complete disconnect this not interested yeah and look we all have the stuff we're not interested in I'd like to think I I could watch the documentary King of Kong as a guy who hates video games and enjoy King of Kong because of the human yeah it's an interesting story yeah but for

for a lot of people so I told anyway I told Ron you watch it and spread the good word around there because I get it but here's but what I'm saying is this in Howard's world it's terrestrial radio or a serious XM whatever whatever, and the podcasting is what? And then it becomes like something they do, something that's huge in Tokyo. Yeah.

You know what I mean? And you go, what? Oh, the kids. Oh, it's huge with the thing. And you go, really? Nah. So- That won't last. It doesn't because it's so far out of his world. Yeah. It doesn't because it's so far out of his world. Yeah, I think he does that thing where it doesn't exist now Probably should understand like we understand. There's plenty of shit We don't know about never heard of there. There's there's bands that my kids that my daughter listens to that I've never fucking heard of but I'll take their word for it. They're huge

Yeah, I just say he never gets into that zone, into that world of sort of 22 and under of the YouTube and the bands and all. He doesn't seem to like be aware of that. Well, I'm using the band as an example. He's, there's plenty of youth-oriented stuff he's into that involves Spider-Man. Right, right. And green pajamas or whatever the fuck.

I see, I don't I'm the exact opposite. I have no interest in comic books whatever graphic novels spider any superhero anything It feels insane to me But that's what he's interested in but yeah But what I'm saying is is I understand that spider-man is good for 300 million bucks at the box office. Yeah that part I'm not going, but I understand. Somebody's into it. Somebody's into it.

Yeah. So I think that's just his take on podcasting. He's probably been told that, well, look, every time I leave the show, one of his staff or underlings go, hey, I really liked yesterday's episode. So they listen. They listen. yesterday's episode so they they're listening they listen but I always the man is a pro and that's that's that's the part you know it I know it and that's his interviewing has gone to like I'm best on the record best of all time I

mean really Larry King got nothing nothing any of those I can't think of a 60 ain't nobody nobody comes close to the interview maybe you know what I mean, really, Larry King got nothing. Nothing. Any of those. I can't think of a 68. Nobody. Nobody comes close to the interview he does. Maybe you. Maybe you. No, what it is, no, I'll tell you why. All right, then, you tell me that, and I'll say, go ahead.

Why? No, I'm thinking you should go first. All right, I'll go first. Go ahead. It's research prep meets following instinct. He follows, and training, by the way. And his training has been his psychoanalysis. Well yes.

And let's not forget repetition. Doing it over time, developing. Repetition sometimes gets static. Well no. Yeah, yes. He's been evolving it with repetition and growing it. He's better at 60 than he was at 45. He's better now than he was two years ago.

Well there you go. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Okay. Let me. Oh, now the real truth. Let us. Let King Adam tell you too.

You brought up Larry King. Yeah. Larry King doesn't have a sense of humor or much of a personality. He's a good guy. Ryan Seacrest doesn't have, there's not much of him there. So he interviews and they do a good job interviewing. But it's a two-way street. I mean, it's a sort of saying,

well, this guy's a great interview, but the person who's interviewing needs,'s I don't it's like sex You can't just have one person. I'll be good at it. I'll be good enough for the both of us Yeah, it's not really gonna turn out that good. Yeah, I mean it's it's you can have a very competent interview But you can't really go those places unless the person who's doing the interview has a good sense of humor interesting intellect, wants to pursue things psychologically, and so on and so forth. So it's not just the interview, it's Howard is sort of interviewing himself as he's interviewing Paul McCartney.

And that's the part that gives it the extra. All right, that'll do it for this week. Thanks for listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. Remember to check back each week for new episodes. And while you're at it, don't forget to like, subscribe, and rate us five stars wherever you get your podcasts. I've been your host, Big Brother Jake, aka Jake Warner. Thanks for tuning in.

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