The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Tweeting Amanda Bynes (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: March 25, 2025

Adam and Dr. Drew open the show by addressing the recent controversy over Drew's comments about Amanda Bynes on Twitter. Later, they take calls on the addictive nature of Adderall, how to deal with a young child battling a terrible disease and how fertility treatments can impact pregnancy.

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Okay, so I got into an online show 41.6 your way off. I has 41.8. Yeah, I Was in a shitstorm on social media you were you know this Gary saw it. I don't know anything. What'd you see Gary? Oh, yeah I mean drew tweeted something that I thought was kind of level headed and generous and kind. He said, I think we should leave Amanda Bynes alone. She wants help, she'll get help. And then I went to sleep. Because people were Twittering me by the hundreds, what's the matter with you that you don't help this poor girl? Like, the fuck? I don't practice. I don't have a license in New York.

She's 3000 miles away. I don't know her. I can't. This is what I put it's up here now. I don't I can't go ethically go intruded her. What the fuck? So I thought I had this was going on for weeks. So I thought I got to say something. So that's what I said. So he said that I happen to be in New York and I went to sleep and then I woke up and then I happened to check his Twitter feed and the world had ended. Thousands. People were freaking out. I couldn't... I guess I'm the wrong audience.

Amanda reacted. You can put Amanda's response up there so you can see what it was, which her response was so over the top. I laughed out loud when I read it. I thought, maybe this chick is funny. She's really funny, but it didn't seem healthy. Well, let's read verbatim what Drew said just quickly. Sorry.

So everyone has a comment. I said, I think it may be time to leave at Amanda Bynes alone. She will get help if she wants it and if she needs it, hopefully before serious consequences. Right? Poor man. Leave her alone. If she needs to get it.

That is the most melba toast sort of middle of the road. consequences. Right? Like, poor man, leave her alone. If she needs to get it. That is the most melba toast sort of middle of the road. That's a politician's answer. No, and I intended it that way. Fine, yeah. There's no, you can't take umbrage with that. Whatever side of the aisle you're on, that's basically you saying, I believe children are the future. I need your vote. There's nobody on the right or the left can figure that one out. Oh, this is interesting. Gary just discovered she deleted her response.

Her response. Yeah. What she said was, I'll tell you. I don't know how to do the at Amanda Potts. I just tell people, thanks for buying Mangria all day long and then retweet shit I said, but I don't know how to include other people on that chain. Oh, that's really interesting Well, what she said was what are you talking about? You have it on your I'm gonna look for it I may be able to let me ask you. Oh, we have it. Oh, no

Yeah, there it is if she removes it from her shit, but it's on your phone. Is it still on your phone? I don't know It's on your phone, but that but it doesn't no one can find it on the internet so she said at Dr. what are you talking about in capital letters what kind of help are you referring to you're ugly and I want you to leave me alone and I almost I and it's so funny when I put my response my thing up several people Twitter me like uh Drew she's gonna call you ugly counting down five, four, three. Oh, she calls everyone ugly.

Well, me, Rihanna, Drake, and Jenny McCarthy. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. And a couple other very good looking people. That's some of the best looking people on the planet. Yeah, this is a good company. I'm happy to be ugly. This is awesome. I was going to start with I'm ugly and it's okay. But anyway, so, you know, the world and the interesting thing, literally thousands of responses pretty much split right down the middle. Gary, tell me if I'm overstating this. One is, you fucking asshole, how dare you?

Poor Amanda Bynes, as though I was attacking her. And the other half was, hey, this was him trying to support you. What are you talking about? Yeah. I'm curious. I mean, whenever there's too much over too little, I suspect there's something that happened when I wasn't around. When the woman in front of me is crying To the guy who's scanning her groceries

Yeah, and you know having a breakdown over them being out of the Pepsi free Just having the Pepsi light and the diet Pepsi zero and those Pepsi zero Coke zero. I realize oh There's something here. Yeah, this goes this runs deeper than them being out of Pepsi free. There's something here. So in that particular case, I just stand there, witness it and realize, well, I'm going to scratch Pepsi off the list. That's not part of the problem here. And we can sit around and argue about whether they should have stocked Pepsi or not, but that's not a great way to approach life. So when I get the tweets or the emails or the whatevers or the complaints or the whatever

that are much more than what this, in your case, innocuous statement would call for, then you realize there's a lot more going on in these people. Are you talking about Amanda or are you talking about the people that responded? People that respond. There's a lot more going on and they don't care that much. It's easy. It used to take more effort to care. Caring...

The ones that are attacking don't care? Yes. Caring was a calorie burner. I'll try to explain it to you. Caring was a calorie burner back in the day. Yeah You know Martin Sheen wanted no nukes. He had to chain himself to a bulldozer, right? That took some effort Yeah, and it was probably uncomfortable probably the man what kind of chain use of course And you know you wanted to protect a building You'd have to go camp out in the building before the wrecking ball was coming

Yeah, or you'd physically have to write letters to your senator. Oh, no make phone calls and things like that It's very easy just to hop on your computer. You're already on your computer now you can care with Nary a calorie burnt, but it feels mob-esque, right? Yeah, but I'm saying Martin Sheen cared. Yeah, he chained himself to a bulldozer. He's a fucking idiot, but he chained himself to a bulldozer. Now we have a bunch of dead coal miners. Thanks, Marty. But he chained himself to a bulldozer. This is... I'm sitting in my air-conditioned office,

and I'm just going to prattle off something that tries to make you feel bad about yourself. But I don't really care. My theory is people really don't care nearly as much. And now with the ease of not caring, it is an epidemic. So I can write something shitty that'll get to Dr. Drew in a heartbeat. I don't have to use a carrier pigeon or go paint up a sign and march in front of City Hall anymore. Carrying is calorie free now, just like the Pepsi.

And it's so easy to do, and so I can just go ahead and do it. And it'll have the same effect as me writing a letter and doing whatever, maybe even a greater effect, but they don't really care. And now I know they don't care and thus it doesn't bother me. But what about the ones that write the positive stuff? Do they care? Yes. They do care.

It seems convenient. No. The ones who write the positive things, that's the way they're feeling about whatever it is that's going on. Well, first off, the positive things range from you and Dr. Drew changed my life. I was on a collision course with an OD or a car accident

and you guys blah, blah, blah. And then there are other ones that just go, love the Mangria man, got me really buzzed, good stuff. So that's as much as the person cares about it at the time they're sitting there drunk on mangria writing me a tweet. I take it in the spirit depending on what it says. But the negativity, and I'm not saying you have to throw out the positivity with the negativity, I'm just saying you, and it's a form of narcissism, Drew, that you think

they care. That I think they care. I don't think they care that much. I don't think they care that much about Amanda Bynes. I don't think they care that much about Amanda Bynes. I don't think they care that much about you I I feel like but it wears you down. That's the part. It can't it's so much this again this whole mob thing It just it's just grinding. It's a negative negative stuff you every time you open your your Twitter, right? Yeah, no, I you know, you know what bothers me probably good for me, by the way, remember? I used to be very sensitive that stuff. Oh, yeah, maybe it's made you callous.

A little bit. Awesome, especially for your family. But you know what I'm saying? I used to open one review on Amazon of our book, and I'd be like shattered. Right. Now it's like, eh. Right.

For me, it's the inaccuracies that get reported. I know. When they go, you said, and I did not say that. And then they go on to make their point based off of you said this, and now let me explain to you why you're wrong. And it's like, it's like me saying, well, one meter is 70 feet. So I'm going, you said one meter 70 feet. Now let me tell you why you're wrong. And I go, I never said that. Right. Now they get to take your misstatement or the statement they made about you. They can run fucking wild with it, which that bothers me. But that's

just the I like things to be accurate. That's me. I'm looking to read for you some of the shitty stuff that came through. It's good times. And again, what do we do about the slow motion train wrecks here, Drew, with these celebrities? I mean... Well, listen, so here, I'll give you my thoughts about that. Was that 18 to 25 or 18 to 22, even more so, is when major mental health issues emerge. Bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, panic, anxiety, depression. If you have schizophrenia, it doesn't pop up at 15.

It pops up at 19 or 21. No, right about now. And when you see a kid acting bizarre, shaving her head, wearing wigs, acting erratically, isolating, making bizarre choices. This is the bizar-ness, just bizarre. Just use that word. Bizarre, consistent bizarre choices, not an act. Not an act, right?

It's something. Now, is it drug use? Probably not. Is it some me? Is she... Probably not. Probably not, what I'm hearing with her. So then you've got to go into more serious mental health stuff like schizophrenia or bipolar

disorder or something. Well, she threw a bong out the window, so I heard. I'm not saying she doesn't use drugs. I'm saying I'm not sure that's responsible for what's going on here. You know what I'm saying? God, these people. Imagine if you're a stoner and you're walking down the street and that bong landed on you. You'd think it was the rapture.

You'd be like, oh my God, it's the greatest day of my life. Unless it broke. It's raining bongs. Unless it broke and then you'd think it's some sort of... It wouldn't matter. It'd be raining bongs. It's the rapture. Yeah.

All right. So there could be something going on physiologically, chemically, because she's at that age. And I don't know where her family is. Her family, she's rejected them and isolating from them, which is part of the, you know, that's again, it's not a good sign, mental health standpoint. And I think, I don't know, but I hear rumors that they're trying to, you know, get control, like get a conservatorship or something. But that's really hard until she does something imminent, you know, so she has unlimited funds and freedom. It's like free country. Do everyone

man. Who are you? Yeah, man. Who do you think you are? It's like, what, me to put me in a hospital man on floor the cuckoo's nest man. Right. Yeah. She's going to hurt herself. I'm afraid to me. Yeah, I'm afraid so. Uh huh. And so it's a sad thing. Well, why didn't you say that in your tweet, though? Why did you say, leave her alone? Because I don't see where doing all this shit that people are doing on social media is helping. It's making it worse. And I don't see where it's, just leave her alone.

It's going to play out as it plays out. Hopefully she'll get help. That's all. What would you do if you... Well, first, she'd have to have value. I don't know, because I don't know what she's got. What if you were's all. What would you do if you... Well first, she'd have to have value. I don't know because I don't know what she's got. What if you were her parent, what would you do? I would look towards a conservatorship. I'd do everything I could to get control of the situation. Financially? No, in all respects. A way to force treatment.

Well, that's a way to force treatment. You're cut off. You're out of funds. Yeah. But I would, even a temporary conservatorship or something, I would go to the courts and make a plea for something. I'd show all the bizarre behavior and stuff and say, look, can we at least please mandate some kind of intervention? Right. Yeah. You said mandate, dude. It shouldn't be mandate anymore. Will mandate? Will mandate? Will mandate. Okay. Person date. Will mandate. Woman date? Woman date? Woman date. Okay.

Person date. Woman date. Human date. Alright, well I'm sorry you've taken to that and then people have done that to you. You know what, but I get that all the time. You know it's weird, I feel weird in that, you know, I say horrible things all day every day. And at least things that people should deem as horrible all day, every day, about everyone.

And then I go home and I don't really get any shit tweet-wise. You probably do. No. Well, it's funny how only sensitive people get the really bad shit. You know what I mean, like, people who are entitled to attack somebody that will receive it. You know what I mean? I feel people are entitled to attack somebody that will receive it.

You know what I mean? Or maybe I don't notice it. People say to me all the time, oh, well, you can't read that stuff because nine-tenths of it is fucking horrible attacking bullshit that's just trying to undermine or erode your self-esteem and confidence and I always feel like all I I 92% of the stuff I get is good one ace man And I get a lot of pictures of people sitting in snow in a hot tub drinking man, Korea going alright

You know like I I should get a much larger Proportionately a much a much greater amount of shit, but I think the problem is they're not going to find it satisfying. I think that's it. But can I tell you this, Drew? I've had this happen now on a number of occasions. And I do believe most people are wired this way and it's kind of interesting. I've probably gotten five tweets, at least that I've read,

I don't see everything all the time, that said, hey man, you used to be funny. And then you started with all this right-wing Politicians bullshit. Yeah, and You just lost a fan I am Unsubscribing I say good day, sir. I say good day and I write that person back and I say sorry you feel that way Thanks for the support in the past." And then they always write back that

says, yeah, well, we're cool. Moving on. I found that if you tell them, hey, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, and they go, fuck you. They write one more and says, fuck you one more time. But I always just say, sorry, that's where you're at. And thanks for the whatever eight year run we had where you did support me. And they 100% of the time right back and go, listen, I'm just blown off some steam. Like we're cool. That's mostly what people want. It is kind of a weird kind of weird dynamic. I'm not good at it normally. I should do more of that. You get a much better response. As a matter of fact, if you say fuck off and die, that just confirms what they were thinking. Right. If you immediately turn yourself into a human

being and go, sorry, you feel that way, but thanks for the support in the past." Then they feel bad and they come back around. It works personally. It works globally. How do you do it without everyone seeing the response? I don't know. I don't care if everyone sees it. Once in a while, Lynette tells me, you know, you're doing the one where everyone sees that whatever and I go, I don't care.

I just say, thank you. Thank you. You know know support the show. Thank you. Tell a friend. Thank you. Enjoy. Thank you That's that's all I'll try I get so much of that shit. Well, you have you have too many followers true How many followers do you have? Let's see you have like Two three million followers. Yeah, I don't have that many followers three million 24,000 six. Well well you're asking for trouble. All right, I don't know what to do with it. You know what I actually use it for? What's that?

A data bank, which is my biggest problem is that, oh not my biggest problem, but it's a problem I formerly had in my younger days in life, which is as a comedian you're supposed to be collecting your material, honing your material, using your material, and sort of redistributing your material. Meaning, you say a bunch of funny stuff, you collect that bunch of funny stuff, and you turn it into a book. And then eventually that book becomes a one-man show. You see what I'm saying? No, I don't get it. You don't get what I just said? You're reading your fucking tweets. That's why you don't get it. All right. I'll say exactly the same, but this time you'll be paying attention.

As a comedian, you're supposed to be collecting your jokes and your thoughts and forming it into something. Yes. Like a book. Yes. And then a book becomes a one-man show. Yes. And then you get paid.

Yes. Not just throwing jokes away constantly up into the ether. Yeah. Anywhere. Yeah. Just go, go, go. I just talk, talk, talk, and I never collect, collect, collect. And I used to do that constantly. And I now realized, oh no wait, if you say something that's good, you have to write it down, you have to

hang on, you have to shape it into something. Do you do that? No. Yeah. But people tweet them back to me. Oh, things you used to say, yeah. No, yeah. No, things I say now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It could have been a month ago, could be a day ago, could be 10 years ago. They tell me what I say. No, I saw that there was some gay porn name we brought up, because you said on Twitter. I can't remember what it was now.

I don't remember anything. But I say things, I say things that are just sort of, I don't write them down down and then they go away. Now what I use Twitter for is I sort of archive it, which is I retweet it and now I have it. Oh, that's good. And then when I write my next book. Oh, that's good. I will then retrieve theoretically that.

So the real reason, I always thought the reason you didn't archive, write down your jokes is you had some sort of ethos. Ethos? Ethos. Ethos. Against that, Chris, what's so funny? Ethos against that in that you were a creative genius and you had to bring out new material all the time. The reality is you're just lazy. Some of each. When I used to storm into the writer's room at the man show, I would exclaim, you guys are all comedy warehouses and I'm a comedy factory. You're warehousing jokes. I am creating jokes. They roll off. And if you start warehousing, you stop creating.

You could do both, I could argue, because they have a factory that has a warehouse. Yeah, you could, and you have to do both. But it slows down production, because you have to sort of ship and store and move and catalog and categorize. You need a separate department, a separate person in charge of catalog. Comedy forklifts.

But it's the only way comedians can work. You have to work that way. But if you get into too much of the warehousing, the conveyor belt slows down. So for me, I realize financially, it's insane. It's like sending stuff out the river that was useful from a production standpoint. Yeah, Jerry Seinfeld came up to me once on a lot, on like the CBS lot, and he just said to me, that bit you do. Yeah. What bit?

Rich man, poor man thing you do. Yeah. That's a great bit. You should be doing that in your standup and blah, blah, blah, and blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I should? And this is years ago, I turned into an online book, which is another disappointing story. But the point is, is somebody is like, I'll follow the same thing. You remember? He was in an airplane, he came up to you and said,

I love that thing you did. You didn't know what he was talking about. Right, right. But this was a specific bit, rich man, poor man. And it's like, do it, write it down. was a specific bit, Rich Man Poor Man, and it's like, do it, write it down. This is a bit. This could be your thing. This could be your getter done. Here's how you know your redneck or whatever it is. I was just like, I never thought about it. I have some. What was he talking about? Do you remember? Rich Man Poor Man. What was it? The franchise of Rich Man Poor Man. I don't remember. That's why I poor man. What was it? The franchise of rich man poor. I don't

remember. That's why I'm asking. Was it? You've never heard me do rich man poor man? No. I guess that's a good point. I never did really do it. Maybe I'm not. I don't know. Maybe I have. I just don't recognize it as that. Okay, sorry. No, I didn't talk about it much on Loveline. Rich man poor Man is anything that rich people and poor people share, but middle class people, though, share. Oh, interesting. Lots of calls. There's a lot of stuff.

Yeah, outdoor showers. Yeah. Things like that. Oh, yeah. We have done this. Yes, yes. I've done it. Yeah.

See? It's all coming to you now. All right. The outdoor showers broke me through. Yeah. Shall we take some calls? Take a little break first. Take a quick break.

Yeah. All right. Why don't we do that? We. Take a quick break. All right. Why don't we do that? We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back with your calls after this. Hey, it's Adam Kroll from the Adam Krollers show. BetOnline is the world's most trusted betting platform and your number one source for online

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All right. Mike? Hey, guys. What's going on? Calling from Pennsylvania. How are you doing, brother? 44. Hey. Pretty good. How are you all doing? Good. I think we've got a son who is just about to turn nine and we've got him actually we have him on Zoloft and Ritalin right now. He has Asperger's and my question is what are the long term effects to little kids being

on this stuff? Now he's actually on Sirtroin which is a generic version I I suppose, of Zoloft. 25 milligrams. How do you figure out he has Asperger's? Because I have Asperger's too. Are you sure about that? No. I've got my fucking life. Everyone should have Asperger's if I have Asperger's. He has a whiff of it.

He has a whiff of it, maybe. Good. You should all get a whiff. How do you get... Yeah, how do they diagnose that for a nine-year-old? Well he was diagnosed when he was three or four. All right. So it's been a while.

Three or four. And how do they do that? Well they, my wife takes care of all that actually. But we just figure out that he's got a lot of social anxiety and, you know, just... All right, listen. Just go, I don't know, next time. There are armies of people studying this stuff. You want to get a child psychiatrist, preferably somebody at a teaching center, a university hospital,

who has years and years and years of experience and teams of people dedicated to dealing with these things. The long-term effects, obviously the Ritalin category has been around for a long time. It looks remarkably safe for people that use it properly. After 18, it gets a little dicier whether it should be used, but under the data, it's pretty clear that it's helpful. Zoloft and SSRI is very complicated. You sure want to talk to somebody who's an expert and like a professor level sort of team of people at a university hospital to make sure you've done everything possible and you're getting the best for your kid.

Long term, you're not going to cause cancer with it, but are you going to cause brain changes and all that sort of those risks and benefits need to be weighed out with an expert. Drew, as I was saying, thinking about my son's basketball team, last year there was a kid that was impaired quite a bit. And to the point where he'd run the other direction, he would go sit with the other team, he would run off the court and join other games that were nearby and so on and so forth. And his dad would chase him around, point him in the right direction,

give him a slap. It was a little uncomfortable. Someone had to have a talk with him. It was a back of the head, come on, let's go. Hey, hey, wake up kind of move. It was something that no one would have given a shit about now, sorry would have given shit about 20 years ago but now it's crossing the line which is fine yeah I try to make a distinction between the stuff that's good and the stuff that's bad yeah decide we need to as a country need to get back and start eating more stew and casseroles to become great again. Not casseroles.

If we ate more stew, we'd stop fucking sending out, taking out Indian and start eating more stew, we'd be a great nation again. That I'm convinced of. But this dad, who I learned to kind of respect, because he had this kid that was very impaired and he said, my kid's playing basketball and he's not playing in the Special Olympics

I'm playing with regular kids and the other kids immediately understood Oh, that's the kid who sits down in the middle of court and that's a kid who sits on the other team They understood that in yeah, then judge then you do anything. This is that's the kid who acts that way dad chasing him around You know give me the smack. Come on. Wake up. Get gone Get picked, you know, the kid would sit down at half court. He'd pick him up and push him Yeah, go out and play it get down there chase that ball And before he knew it the kid was effectively doing what my kid was doing, right? And so you're raising a really interesting point is at what point do we use medication versus what point do we use?

Therapeutic interventions, you know, it's behavioral interventions and I and I don't think there's enough There's too much probably towards the meds and not enough towards the, it's hard work, it's time consuming. Yes, poor dad had to fucking chase his kid up and down the corridor. And I'm not judging poor Mike who was calling about this, but it's expensive, it's time consuming, who can afford it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, sorry. It's not all expensive. It's not all about A lot of the stuff is. No, no, no, no. Well no well sorry I'm not saying it's

here's what I want to be clear about yeah if you are willing to go every Saturday morning to the YMCA in Hollywood and never miss it a game and chase your kid around that court and push him it doesn't cost you a penny it's a calorie burner yeah it's a serious calorie burner. Most of us wouldn't do it, but this guy was willing to do it every Saturday. He ran more than the kids ran. But let's not make it all about money. Well, but A, let's put it this way. Let's frame it this way. There's some sort of medication that will be helpful. We don't really know the long-term effects. We think it's safe. Versus, I need you to take the kid to therapy five hours a day, it'll

be about 800 bucks a day, and on the weekends you're going to have to go run around like a maniac and have them at the basketball court. And that may work, may. Medicine will, probably. But what are you going to do? Let's go. Make a choice. And people, they just can't do, you know what I mean? Yeah, I'll go old school on you and say this. I was a bed wetter. My son's a bed wetter, my daughter's not. I was a bed wetter long in life. My mom used to sort of wring her hands to the point where she would.

I mean, she wasn't a big hand wringer, but she did a lot of oh it's society and oh he's angry and it's his dreams and He's emotionally. This is this is this is a she plays a man on pen and your ease is no Was a sort of a physical manifestation of what was going on inside me emotionally wasn't you were eating wrong? No, it was it was there was a psycho Wasn't you were eating wrong? No, it was there was a psycho, uh, semantic or psychoactive whatever problem that this was me acting out and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Or is your body reacting to something? Okay.

All right. She, she, what old school Jew, Laszlo Gorog grandpa figured out pretty easily that if he's going to watch Johnny Carson until 1230 every night and I'm gonna sleep on his sofa, he slept over to his grandparents, our grandparents house a lot, I'm gonna sleep on the sofa in the living room and call it at 830, 9 o'clock in the evening, call the night, that right about the time Carson was signing off at 1230, if on his way back to the to the bedroom and there was only one bathroom in which was through the bedroom which made my

dad staying there after the divorce with them weird before he something the forty one year old dude who divorced your daughter like I was going to be living in your house. It'll be walking through your bedroom to use the bathroom And by the way my dad Cool with that arrangement for as long as he could get away with it. He do it Until they said to him. I know you're asking I I wish I had an answer six months five months nine months I don't know until basically they said hey Jim We need you to move. Wow. My dad was cool.

By the way my dad is cool with three over anything and my mom is too. That's the realize like where's the discomfort. The discomfort is taking out a checkbook. That's where the discomfort comes. You realize you're not walking through your in-laws bedroom. That's uncomfortable for an old but what's excruciating is reaching for your wallet. You know whatlaws bedroom. That's uncomfortable for a normal person. But what's excruciating is reaching for your wallet. You know what I mean? It's sort of like sitting at a table when the check comes. It's a little uncomfortable to sit there and not reach for it and have to wait for you to reach for it. But if it's excruciating for you to get your credit card out. You won't do it. Not that my dad had one, but wouldn't do it. But grandpa, what

did grandpa do? He woke you up at 12't do it but grandpa. What a grandpa do He woke you up at 12 30 had you pee in a bucket? So I do with my dog in a little pee problem No, I take I take a minute 12 not a bucket strange. I did I did make you a front lawn That's what I do the front lawn was a bridge too far. Ah, he had a bucket Yeah, the bucket sat underneath the coffee table that he built And he'd wake me up with his European Jew sound. Hey, European Jews have sounds they make for people that don't go wake up.

They go, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh. Yeah, maybe there's a word or a little sound. And I'd get up, like, you know, half asleep, stand up. Mid-century European Jew. Hold the bucket, make another sound. You know, shh, shh, half asleep, stand up, you know. Mid-century European dream. Yeah. Hold the bucket, make another sound, you know. Chh, chh, chh, chh, chh, chh. And I peed into the bucket. You left the sound part out last time we told the story.

That's awesome. And I would piss away. You know, that bucket, boom, bucket go right back down next to my head. And I'd go back to bed. Yeah. And I wouldn't even remember it. And guess who didn't wet his bed when he slept over at grandpa's house.

And then the next day... My dog's perfect now. He never pees in the house. Right. I would wake up, and the next day he'd go, all right, go empty the bucket. And I think I would go out to the lawn or whatever, just kind of chuck it, you know, and then come back and rinse it out the hose and get back to him. And that was that.

Yeah. Problem solved. Pretty easy equation. No, that's right. And that's why clinical syndromes, regardless of their cause, sometimes have pragmatic solutions. Cigars sometimes. Oftentimes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. That's all. Cigars. Anyway, so these are very complex things, and I'm certainly no expert on this stuff. All right, oops. That's the wrong one.

Jennifer. 23. What's up, Jennifer? 33, Jennifer. Hello. What. Twenty-three. What's up, Jennifer? Thirty-three, Jennifer. Hello. What's up? What's going on? Um, I'm still waiting to speak with Dr. Drew.

You're on the air. Here we go. Let's go, Jennifer. Oh, I'm sorry. I've been trying to get a hold of Dr. Drew for so long. Here we go. Um, I've been having trouble with my daughter. She's been very sick since she was born.

Uh-oh. I've been in trouble with my daughter. She's been very sick since she was born. She had surgery at three months old and I traveled to 12 different facilities around the area that I have found and they keep coming up with different answers and there are no good outcomes and I just don't know what to do with the situation. Something sounds peculiar about you too, Jennifer. Is something going on with you? Yeah.

I've been going through depression. I keep dealing with the situation and it's reflecting on my new relationship. And... Are you married? No, I... me and her father had split up and I started a new relationship and it's been really rough. Do you work? On that one. No, I'm disabled myself.

From what? I had spinal meningitis when I was six months old. Why did that disable you? I'm sorry? Why did that disable you? Because I had the spinal meningitis by a period infection where... Why did that disable you? My spine swallowed in the center and it held it from the weight in the middle of my back

down and it ate away at my growth plates and my joints. You're paraplegic? No, they made it so I could walk, but barely. I can walk from to the bathroom and different things like that. All right, so you're not going to be a logger, but can you do data entry? I'm sorry? You can work at computer, right? I don't understand why you can't work.

No, I can work on a computer. I got my diploma. Okay. I can work on a computer. I got my diploma. Okay. I've been trying to get a job, but with all the things that I've been traveling with her and trying to find a solution. Alright, hold on. Let me have a sidebar, Richard. Alright, so there's obviously a ton going on with Jennifer.

I've been around long enough and done this show long enough to do this thing where the people go, we took them to the doctor and then the doctor gave us a diagnosis but we didn't appreciate the diagnosis so we went to another doctor and they gave us a diagnosis but we weren't satisfied with that diagnosis so we went to another doctor. It's like you're taking your car from mechanic to mechanic to mechanic they're telling you need a new clutch and you're not satisfied with that answer and then I start hearing in your voice not only obviously the depression of having to go through this, but there's something going on here on a much deeper level.

Now I don't know what's going on with her daughter. I would suspect... The more difficult problem is when you go to more doctors, they see the previous workups and they go, well, maybe it's... Let's think of something else. And that confuses people even more. Because they go, no one gives us the straight answer. They're all saying something different. It's like, well, they're saying something different because you're not accepting the one and so they're reaching for other possibilities.

Right. So, let's say, let me punch her up. Our next trip is to Boston, Massachusetts this month. What is her diagnosis? What is her diagnosis? She has hemangioma. Hemangioma of what? It's internal. There are blood tumors that run from the left side of her foot, her left foot, all the way up her left leg is a massive one.

And then she has them in her female organs, six in her stomach, two on her spine, and one on her brain stem. All right, so she's about to hear mangiomas, and they're untreatable? Well, they've come up with one treatment,, well, two different ones. They've come up with one where they should give her chemo and try to go that route. How old is she? But she's 10. All right. So here's the deal. You're going to Harvard, you're going to the top of the heap, do what they tell you.

That's what I would do. I don't look for more opinions. I don't look for things. When I go to the doctor, I go to somebody I think is good, and I do what they tell me. Yes. Period. I never do anything different than that. I don't ask why.

I don't ask that. So apply your best judgment. Do not treat me special. Do not treat me as a doctor, just treat me like you treat any of the patients because I know that's when doctors' heads work best and just I will do exactly what you tell me and that's that. And that's that. It is what it is, Jennifer, it sounds really rough. She's not going to be satisfied with this. She wants to continue. Well, the confusion I have is the first doctor said enjoy the time I have. And that may be what they tell you at Harvard.

And if that's what they would tell me, that's what I would do. You're going to the best, so you will then listen to what the best has to say. Harvard, now the best Boston? Yeah. Okay. All right. Good luck with it that's Boston. Yeah. Okay. All right. Good luck. Good luck.

I know this is not the cause, but the spinal meningitis, why do these people have people that have a million problems? What, do they have kids? No. Why do they? Do you know, when she started talking about herself? Yeah, I had a spinal meningitis and I and then she started talking about her child She was saying it in the same tone. Yeah, meaning I have a million things wrong with me She has a million things wrong with her. Yeah, this obviously super super bummer, but I'm not calling her a liar

I'm just saying there's this connection between Something is wrong physically. It's not a Munchausen's by proxy thing, but it's a sort of a thing of like, how did I know you had this problem? She could give you a laundry list of her child's ailments and then a laundry list of her ailments. Because she's not the person who's going, you know, I've got this girl with hematomas all over her body, including her brainstem, it's untreatable. We are trying our best to enjoy the time we have together, but it's tough.

It wasn't that. It was something very different. Yeah. Should have get together with my mom, plan my next party. That's what my mom sounds like. All right, go talk to the best and do what they tell you to do. No matter how sad it is. Sorry.

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I know both you guys had fertility issues when you guys are trying to conceive and then running into the rich white guy problem of Not being able to have a child and so we're doing fertility treatments, flow mitts, and we took the overdrill shots on Sunday night and did an IUI this morning. And I just wanted Dr. Drew's thoughts on the overall fertility issues and chances of multiples. Oh, boy. I got thoughts on this, too. Well, I mean, there are, obviously, you know the thoughts of multiple, but they've got it down when they do the implantation to dramatically reduce the risk of super multiples. So it's twins.

Right, I know that's been lowered dramatically, but we couldn't get a straight answer really because we can't get the doctor, we're getting the fertility nurse, and then the pharmacist had no thoughts on it at all. You want to know the exact percentage risk? No, I just want to know how the science has progressed, I guess. Oh, way ahead. Triplets are rare now.

They were like 1% or so before. We had. We were supposed to have triplets. We were supposed to have quads. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Four runner.

Yeah. So what'd you do with the way I was saying? It's left off. Yeah, that's what happened to our fourth. It's left off, too. So sometimes those just sort of spontaneously reduce Yeah, and then and then we were they sat us down and said don't have triplets. They said reduce reduce the twins Oh really? Yeah, yeah, which we just couldn't do.

The word for abortion sort of. Yeah, it was definitely an abortion call. The uh, the That's funny is my uh My son's a minute older. Yeah. He makes a big deal out of that. Oh, walking around, people are like,

oh, your twins, which one, when was your brother? Well, I'm Bear, bigger brother. I'm the older, bigger brother. My kids do that too. I'm a minute. Yeah. I don't have the heart to fucking tell them to shut up. But your twins, you kind of want twins.

I hate to say it. If you're going through fertility treatment, it reduces the need to repeat the fertility trees. I've had that thought, but she's not really excited about it. Well, it'll be what it's going to be, right? Exactly. And you're probably going to be successful. These treatments are very, very good.

And if they told you you're a good candidate for it, because you are, and it'll be fine. It was something I was very grateful to have. I knew we had a fallopian tube problem right at the beginning so I put full faith into fertility treatment. I was very confident going all the way through. I have such shitty luck. I never imagined I'd have a 1% hit but when it goes against me that way, then I get it. Then I get the luck. When it's a financial burden, then I get it. Then I get the luck. Right. Yeah. When it's a financial burden, then I get it. Then luck. Yeah, it wouldn't be the financial issue. I mean, that wouldn't be the problem, but it's just...

Look, here's the thing. It's a weird one because you're not going to be able to control it. And it feels very precarious because you're talking about lives that you're creating, but you can't control. And do you get triplets? Do you get twins? And what do you do? How's it work? Who sloughs off? How do they get reduced?

Don't think of any differently than a regular pregnancy. You can get twins in a regular pregnancy. Listen, there's a part of life where you just have to go, I will do what I do. And we will do what we'll do, and science will do what it does. If you believe in God, God will do what God does. It's a leap believe in God God will do what God does You need and you're not gonna be able to control it this one from where you're at. You can put as much

Resources and science and do the best you can do in the time period that we're in but it's not a hundred years ago Thank God, unfortunately, it's not a hundred years from now Well, it's also not just one years ago when years ago when you could have risked for triplets. You don't worry about that so much. Right. It's just what it is now, and you're going to do what the doctor tells you to do, and that will be that. That's the part that drives me insane. It's come up a couple times here at the moment. You will have a daughter or son or daughter and a son or two daughters or whatever it is, and you'll love them, and that's what it will be.

These people are truly experts in what they're doing. Just follow their direction. Don't second guess it. And don't, everybody, please, when you get medical care, don't be special. Physicians are trained to give highest standard as the standard. If you deviate from the standard, you're more likely to get into trouble. I think I know my body a little better than you do, man. I know my body.

What they'll do is they'll tell you stories. I can tell when I'm off. Yeah, I know. I'm not saying don't be informed. I'm not saying don't make good decisions, but once you decide who you're going to go with, you follow the direction. My herbalist told me... Oh, geez.

Oh, yeah. We're doing a... I was on a master cleanse. All right? Because you were feeling a little bloated or we know sometimes you wake up in the morning You just feel like getting out of bed. How's this morning? What? Yes, you know why did my dog was barking at 630? That's why okay. Let me say something Say something you know your car engine right? Yeah, it's great runs fine

Okay, powers your car, but then you don't change your oil and you don't flush your radiator, right? You mean I have a mucus shunt? You have a mucus shunt in your... In my colon? You have that turbocharged V6 and it starts getting sludge in there. And all of a sudden... That's a sludge, mucus sludge. And you have trouble starting the car, right?

I had a friend that had an Anima and you should see the sludge that came out of that to that's all he okay all of that is toxins okay what it's a toxins inside we building up for years that's what the animal perjury like you want to take a nap about three in the afternoon everyday toxins toxins uh... scares me wall of the who put the toxins of the people you know you're living in it. Okay. Hold on. Just listen to me. We live in a toxic environment We do okay, you know when there's a sink and the sink is filled with filthy water

Yes, and you drop a sponge into it. Yes. Well, what's the sponge do? It sucks it up. Well, what do you think you're doing? Okay, so now your sponge, okay? I am the sponge. That's what I'm saying. Is filled with filthy, toxic water. Okay? Brown. Toxic.

And that's why the sponge is brown and not effective. What I'm saying, with the enema, with the master cleanse, we're taking that sponge and we're wringing it out under clean stream water. Okay? You understand? I do. Okay, that's what it is. I want that now. But that's...

I want to feel better. Your sponge, you absorb what's in your environment and your environment is toxic and those toxins... Sponge is organic, right? Sea sponges. So I'm... Not the ones with the scrubby pad. No, pad no no the sea sponge I am a sea sponge you absorb your sea sponge you're in the ocean okay and the Exxon Valdez oh it hits the rocky shulz and then all of a sudden that oil goes past you we You can't breathe. You've sucked up the crude oil.

It's the sludge. We need to, you know what they call it? Expunge for the record. Yes. That's what they're talking about. Expunge. You're talking about wringing you of toxins and getting out all the toxins built up with this toxic environment.

Got that part. Be so much better. You see the paint on the wall? Yes. It's toxic. No. It's fabric. Why do you expose me to this? It's in. It's so much better. You see the paint on the wall? Yes. It's toxic. No. It's fabric. Why do you expose me to this?

It's inescapable. It's fabric. When you get in your car after a hot day. I need to expunge. You park your car in a hot day in a parking lot. Okay? Windows rolled up. You get in.

You know that smell? Yes. It's toxic. And what are you doing with that smell? I'm sponging it. No, you're sponging. Expunging. You're breathing in that. Okay? And your cells. What are you doing with that smell? I'm sponging it. No, you're sponging.

You're breathing in that, okay? And your cells are being in sponging. Your cells are being inundated, in a sponging with those toxins, okay? Okay? Yeah, okay. You ever have to get up off the sofa and you make a little noise like, oh, my back. Especially as I'm older. No, it's not that I'm older no it's not that

I'm older it's been exposed to toxins for longer. We need to remove that via hose up your ass scientifically we're going to take that sponge we're going to wring it out under the stream the clean stream water cool stream I breathe again just right saying I can breathe. Okay. Oh now you understand Do you understand that do okay? All right, it's just science what one of those assholes Just one to draw me the chemical formula of the talks any of the toxins are talking about and then show me the biological Chemical pass way. Oh you I know where it, where it does its damage and B, where it's expunged. Just show me the pathway, that's all. Simple chemistry. Basic chemistry. Western chemistry. Draw the molecule. Yeah, that's exactly what Upjohn would want. I subscribe

to the wisdom of the Orient, okay? Those people have been around for millions of years, expunging toxins from the record of life. You understand? I have a higher calling. I don't go and talk to a German scientist. Okay. You know what happened with their scientific beliefs. You see what happened? He's on the payroll. No, no. It's Mengele. Well, the Spongela. All right. You want to click through the Amazon link and show us a little love when you're going to get a little something from Amazon? Go to AdamAndDrDrewShow.com.

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