The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - What is Gaslighting and Grown Folks Wetting The Bed? (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: December 30, 2023

In this episode of The Adam and Dr. Drew Show, the fellas dive into the topic of "bedwetting", Adam reminisces on his race car driving days and the boys discuss the term "gaslighting" and how it made ...a comeback from the early 1900's.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to the Adam and Dr. Drew show classics. I'm your host, Big Brother Jake, and I got a good one for you today. First up is episode 208 titled Wedding the Bed that aired January 28th, 2015. Adam and Dr. Drew discuss bed wedding. Yes, bed wedding. And Adam was very passionate on this topic. Listen to his solution on how to solve this problem. All right.
Starting point is 00:00:31 We'll maybe take a phone call, see how that goes. I have a letter, too, if you guys want to. We got a letter. All right. Give us a letter. Hey, Gary, by the way, yeah, give us the letter, and then I'll ask Gary questions. All right, this is from Sarah from Long Beach.
Starting point is 00:00:45 And also, if you want to write into the show, just go to adamanddrdrewshow.com. Fill out the form there. Hi, my boyfriend's son's friend is a sleep peer. Hold on a second. Boyfriend's son's friend. A sleep peer? Yeah, I'm guessing she lives with her boyfriend. What does a sleep peer mean?
Starting point is 00:01:02 Peer. Peer. He pees in his sleep. Urinator. Oh, peer. Okay. Jesus Christ. I heard a sleep peer mean? Peer. Peer. He pees in his sleep. Urinator. Oh, peer. Okay. Jesus Christ. I heard P-E-E-R.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Well, you think peers all the time. Yeah. Well, anyways, so far the kid has peed on blankets, but thank goodness they're sleeping on the floor. But this past weekend he slept on the couch and the smell wafted at my nostrils after he left when I was sitting on the couch. What is the best way to broach this? He either has to wear diapers or his bedding has to be lined.
Starting point is 00:01:27 What causes it, and is it weird to talk to his parents about it? He's 18, and I don't know if he should have grown out of it by now. Ooh. All right. Is he drinking? I wonder if he's drinking at night. Yeah, you can. All right.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Look. Wake him up. I had this motherfucking conversation a thousand times with a fucking thousand people. Yep. A fucking thousand people, including my wife and my son. First off, could everyone just listen to me? I sound like a fucking huge douchebag, but look the fuck around, everybody. Look around.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Who do you want to listen to? I've had this. I was literally standing in the in my son's fucking bedroom having this fucking retarded conversation. Yeah. Which is this. I used to wet the bed. I wet the bed late in life. I really don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I think I stopped from maybe age, you know, whatever the appropriate age was, six or something. And then I started again. I don't know. I was wetting the bed when I was like 11 or 12 or something like that. You did it as a teenager, as an adult with a girlfriend. Well, shit, Drew. Everyone pees the bed once in a while. You fucking have a dream.
Starting point is 00:02:39 But anyway, I wet the fucking bed. And my mom was, oh, he needs therapy. This is a repressed thing. It's anger. It's expressed in the way of urine and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. My grandfather's an old Jew, old fucking Hungarian fucking Jew. And all he knew. Bless his soul.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Bless his soul. All this old motherfucker knew is he didn't want me pissing on his sofa. Right, like this writer caller. Yeah, when we slept at my grandparents' house a lot because my family's a piece of shit. Slow down. Your family? I brought that up? No.
Starting point is 00:03:18 We spent a lot of nights at my grandparents' house. They lived nearby. They cooked. He cooked. There was food and there was house. They lived nearby. They cooked. He cooked. There was food, and there was shelter. It was nice. He'd have the food on the table for the working grandma. He had fucking goulash and a color TV,
Starting point is 00:03:32 two things that did not exist at the Corolla house. So we happily slept on his sofa. He did not want me to pee on his sofa. Shocking. Shocking. So he would tell us a bedtime story. As the Hungarians, they're loquacious people, and they tell stories. So your sister was there, too.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Yeah. Tell us a bedtime story about 8.30, 9 o'clock at night. He'd tuck us in, and then he'd go into his den, and he'd watch Johnny Carson. And then at about 12.30, I don't know, Carson was like 90 minutes or something back then, 1 o'clock, started at like 11.30, end at 1 o'clock, whatever it was, it was bedtime for Grandpa. Grandpa would walk, and as he was leaving the den, he would walk past me in this living room area on the sofa. He put a bucket there in advance. He would wake me up with one of his old Jew sounds.
Starting point is 00:04:24 You know, old Jews have a bunch of sounds, you know, like for relationships. Ch-ch-ch. Ch-ch-ch. He'd shake my shoulder a little bit. What's the Filipino version of that?
Starting point is 00:04:33 Psst, psst. Be a nurse. Nurse. Nurse. Nurse. There's like a joke, like why did the Filipino cross the road?
Starting point is 00:04:41 Because the sprinklers were going off on the other side. Wow, interesting. So he's on to something. Shocking. Yeah. Other cultures have different noises.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Yeah. Like, and I'd get up and I'd just be, you know, I'd be asleep and he'd hand me the bucket, just a regular mop bucket, and he'd go, you know, go. And I, you know, I was just like, you know, I was asleep. I went to bed at 8.30 or 9 o'clock. It was 1 a.m. I'd pull my little underoos down, and I would just piss into this bucket. How old were you there?
Starting point is 00:05:12 11. Could be 11. Could be 12. Could be 9. Early adolescence. But how about an 18-year-old? Whatever. I'd just quiet.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I'd just fucking fill the bucket up, and then I'd pull the thing back, and I'd just collapse back in bed. Yeah. And the next morning, I'd wake up like, huh? You know, what happened? I'd look in there and there's a fucking bucket filled with piss. Like kick it over. It was slid under the coffee table.
Starting point is 00:05:32 And it was my job to then go dump. I'd go, I don't know why I'd go dump it in the yard. I'd go outside and just kind of dump it in the bushes. The Corolla way. Yeah, the Corolla way. Rinse it out like a hose, you know. Preparing you for later adoles know and that was my bucket so when my son was wetting the bed later later and then he needed to my daughter stopped then my son
Starting point is 00:05:58 what continued yeah so i said look uh and i'm telling this to the caller or to the emailer right now. Get a fucking egg timer. Get a kitchen digital timer. Okay. You can use your fucking phone. You can use whatever you want. But I'm old school. For $8, you can get a little digital timer.
Starting point is 00:06:20 That digital timer just has an hour and a minute on it. If you go to bed at 10, set it for four hours. If you go to bed at midnight, set it for four hours. Hold on. This thing. Don't even need a neck timer anymore. I know. I'll tell you why I like this device.
Starting point is 00:06:37 I'll tell you why I like it. The phone has a lot of other things connected to it. Like, okay, now your phone's on. Okay, now there's texting going on or goes off. So it gets your attention in other ways. I want a dedicated thing. It's the size of a fucking pack. It's the size of a box of matches.
Starting point is 00:06:55 It's the size of a fucking box of matches. You hit it for four hours. When it goes off, you get up and you take a piss. If you get up and your bed is wet, set it for three hours the night before or the next night. Find that time when you need to get up. You need to drain your bladder. Don't turn into a big emotional thing. Don't turn to anything else.
Starting point is 00:07:18 You need to piss. Go fucking wake up. Set it up for yourself. Again, start with five hours. See how it works. If it's wet, start with five hours. See how it works. If it's wet, go to four hours. See how it works. Get up, completely evacuate your bladder, go back to bed.
Starting point is 00:07:33 It's going to be hard to piss the bed. Now, I had this conversation in my kid's bedroom with my wife, Olga, probably standing there, and my son. And somewhere around lap three of the, but he doesn't, and it's going to scare him, and what are we going to, at a certain point, I do what I do with everything, where I just go, fuck it, then just go change your sheets every morning. I'm going to go get drunk in the other room. I've said- Wasn't there a conversation about toughening him up?
Starting point is 00:08:04 I have given... There is a problem. By the way, Drew, do you know anyone who solves problems better than I do? I'm not trying to sound like a pompous ass right now. But who has a more... Even without making a... Just a more sort of approach to problems. You're a good problem solver.
Starting point is 00:08:26 No one can deny that. Right. Yeah. Why not just listen to the guy who solves problems? Why not try it? Why not try it? And the guy who used to wet his bed? No.
Starting point is 00:08:36 No. It was like, you get the, yeah, but then the thing's going to scare him. And then it might startle him the first night. But then the second night at a certain point i said just try it for a week try for a week and then it was like yeah but yeah but yeah but and then i just do what i always do fuck it then change the sheets what a randomly bizarre thing for them to resist isn't it why don't you enlist your son why don't you just go around because when he is there i know and the pushback is coming by himself just don't you just go around? Because when he is there and the pushback is coming, then they—
Starting point is 00:09:08 No, I know. Get in by himself. Just don't get with the triangulation. Just fuck it. Just fucking change the sheet and buy a new mattress. I'll pay for it. I'll go to the other room. I'm going to the other room and get drunk. I don't—I don't—I don't—I'm not—why are you pushing back on me? I'm the guy who fucking built the house. I'm the guy who fucking pays for the house. I'm the guy who writes the books. Why, what's, what's with all the pushback?
Starting point is 00:09:35 Just fucking try it. I'm the guy who used to wet the bed. I solved this problem in 1974. My grandfather solved it. Get up, piss in a bucket, go to bed. A lot of, you know, what if you get up, he gets disoriented, he doesn't know where the bucket is. Leave the nightlight on.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Turn the thing. Tell him the thing. No, but then what if, okay, okay. First two nights might be a little rocky, but then that'll just be the rhythm. Get up, take a piss, shut the timer, go back. But what if? Okay, forget it then. Just change your fucking sheets.
Starting point is 00:10:10 It's so weird. It's a weird way to go through life, Drew. I don't know why. Is this a method to actually fix the problem or does it just stop you from peeing the bed? Well, it fixes it. Well, what's the difference? Here's the deal. Here's the treatment that—
Starting point is 00:10:30 And as you get older, like, do you think— Yeah, I typically outgrow it, but that guy's 18. But he should see a urologist. He may have a little problem. But here's the way— Try the bucket first. Right. Here's the way they approach treatment.
Starting point is 00:10:40 If he goes to get treatment, they're going to give him a hormone that you sniff up your nose called DDAVP that prevents you from making urine during the night. So it's effectively the same strategy. So as opposed to evacuating what's there, you just don't produce it. That's the treatment. Isn't that crazy? So Adam's mechanical approach is the same as the pharmacological approach. And I would dare say I'd rather use the mechanical approach. Well, what do we know, Drew? You don't know. What do we know? What do we know?
Starting point is 00:11:09 I'm just a guy who puts cars in houses. Welcome back to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. Up next is episode 550 titled, Don't Do It in Front of the Door. I wonder what that is. That aired on April 3rd, 2017. Adam talks about the time he drove in a 40-lap race and the feelings he gave. Check it out. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:38 So, anyway, thinking about Drewski. Yeah. And I was out last weekend doing a car race. That's why I was thinking about you. Yeah. I was thinking about just getting yourself out of your comfort zone and getting it into a place that's not familiar or comfortable. Is that what you were doing with the car race? That's what I was doing, yeah. Yeah, but also an environment you've never – we're rarely – I would ask yourself to put yourself into this position, although I don't know if you can.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Me. One. Why? I can skip rope for half an hour, watch TMZ, and think about jokes for my show tomorrow night, by the way, on Spike. I can do almost everything simultaneously. Speaking of tomorrow, I think that's the one your walkthrough with me is going to be on, right? I do believe. I do believe. So there's nothing that I can't do while doing something else.
Starting point is 00:12:37 It's what I do all day. It's what everyone does all day. But I notice with this car race, there's nothing to do but live in your moment. And you're so surrounded by sound and motion and all sorts of input coming through your hands and your butt and your foot. And as the car starts to slip and slide and it starts to slide, the tires get tired in the race. The car starts to drift out and you're trying to put in like steering input and throttle, all these little micro little movements and decisions. And this track I was at was so fast that every decision had to be made just split second by split second by split second,
Starting point is 00:13:28 and you never get to go anywhere mentally. And this was a 40-lap race, and it was an hour and a half long. It's the longest I've been in the car, and I never was able to think about anything. Now, did that make it seem like an eternity or a millisecond? It was this, it was this thing. I had this, I had a radio. Um, I had this thing in the driver's meeting. It's the thing I always do.
Starting point is 00:14:00 And then the thing that never happens, which is you have a driver's meeting before the race and they explain a lot of rules and what's going to happen and what happens when the safety car comes out and what happens. Full course yellow or just single yellow or double yellow, whatever. Whatever. If you get black flag, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then I do what I always do, which is I raise my hand and I go, it's a 40-lap race. Oh, that's a picture of me napping almost at the driver's meeting.
Starting point is 00:14:28 So it's a 40-lap race. And so what I do is I say, I have a question. Yes. I never have any idea where I am in these races, and it makes a difference to me. If I'm going to pass somebody, I'm going to wait, usually. I hope they're going to make a mistake, but also I'll wait until about the end. Two laps, maybe three laps left,
Starting point is 00:14:52 and I'll make a move. But I don't want to do it with a bunch of laps left. But I also realize in a 40-lap race with cautions and yellow flags, I will not know where we're at. I won't know if we're halfway in. I won't know if we're 25 laps in. The first thing you lose is your ability to keep track of things like that.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I imagine. So I will not know. So I raise my hand and I say, is there any signal? Like, can you give us a 10 laps to go or halfway through or something? So I can just have my mind sort of ticking. And they said, well, we don't normally do it. What we give you is the white flag. White flag means one more.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Great. Very helpful. That's not helpful. But what would be helpful is like, hey, we're halfway through. And they said what we usually do, it's not really protocol, but what we normally do is we'll give like a half. The guy will show like a half thing. The starter guy, some of the corner guys will be like half, half, show you like a half move. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Yeah, it seems cool, except for then I walked out of the meeting and I thought, what are the chances they're going to do that? Right, what if they don't? And then I thought, I bet they're not going to do it. And then I thought, now I'll be on lap 33 and I'll go, well, I haven't seen half yet. So we're not to lap 20 yet. Yeah. So I immediately ignored it. Do you have a pit?
Starting point is 00:16:17 Is there a pit? Yes. Can you have your pit do it kind of thing? I, for the first time ever, was wearing a radio. Oh. Ah. But it's so radio. Ooh. Ah. But it's so loud. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Inside the car that you cannot hear what the guy's saying. Why have it? Well, honestly, why? Because during the, if you get a yellow, if there's an accident or somebody goes off and there's a yellow, everyone will slow down. And when you slow down. Then you can hear it. The revs of the engine slow down, and he can communicate. And he was able to tell me 15 laps left after we, on a yellow, on a full course. And they didn't do the half thing.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Not to my knowledge. Not to my knowledge. If we ever cared to look at the tape, we can look at the tape and you can see it. But anyway, I'll show you. I think Gary's got a lap of the track. I'll show you a lap of the track whenever he finds it. We can take a call. You can find it then later.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Or did you find it? All right. You can find it. Oh, my God. Where is it? Willow Springs. Where is that? It's in Willow Springs. Where is that? It's in the desert.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Oh shit, I can see that. Ah, Palmdale. Palmdale, okay, got it. Oh my God. Now You know I'm a car enthusiast, right? Yeah And you know I like fast Yeah
Starting point is 00:17:52 Yeah But this is what makes a ball game That experience looks absolutely unpleasant to me Oh, I can't Like that Like I would not want to do that in a million years I admire that you do it. Oh, man. Fantastic. I'm trying to pass a guy. I just want to get passed. Are they supposed
Starting point is 00:18:20 to, is there a protocol for when you try to pass? Are they supposed to, like, kind of? Are they supposed to, is there a protocol for when you try to pass? Are they supposed to, like, kind of... Not really. So this is me in third. But when you go down that back straight, you can just let it run for a second, Gary, and turn it up. But when you see, when you hear, now you can imagine trying to listen. When you go down this back straight.
Starting point is 00:18:53 So it'll, right now you're running up this line over there. All right, here's where it opens up. There you go, Drew. All right, we got it. So you got to do that for 40 laps. Wow. And you can't think about anything. That's crazy. You can't look around.
Starting point is 00:19:13 You can't, like, notice anything or really do anything. I did that. That, to me, sounds like the most appealing part about it. Yeah. The focus you have to maintain and then the intensity of the whole experience. That sounds cool. It's a lot of sweat. you have to maintain and then the intensity of the whole experience that sounds cool but a lot of sweat but yeah but the sound the sweat the the actual all the prep and shit you had to go through
Starting point is 00:19:31 oh my god i didn't have to go through that much prep though just learning how to do that and then suiting up and oh yeah yeah you gotta there is, though, like getting in and out of the car and stuff like that where you do it a few times. These guys time you to get out of the car. The official has to come time you for fires. Wow. You have to get all buckled in six ways and helmet and Hans device, your head and neck restraint device. And everything, window net up, door shut, everything completely buttoned up. And then they give you 20 seconds to get out of the car.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And it's not my car. So you're not sure where all the latches and snaps and things are. Whose car was it? Oh, you mean it's just everyone gets out of the same car? No, you've got to get out of your car. The car you're going to race. And whose car was this? Burton Racing.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Oh, wow. They're a Trans Am Corvette. Wow. Was everyone driving the same car, essentially, or no? I had Corvettes ahead of me, but there were Mustangs and everything else. Oh, I see a Viper or something. In the race, yeah. It wasn't a Viper.
Starting point is 00:20:41 There was, I don't know if we'll find a picture. Is that a Viper on the second one in? It looks like a Viper. There was – I don't know if we'll find a picture. It's not a Viper on the second one in? It looks like a Viper. It's another Corvette. There was like a – I think there was a Lamborghini Gallardo, I think, that was in there. There's been lots of fast, fun, crazy, crazy stuff. It was really at the top of the race car food chain or at least the road racing food chain. And it was intense.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Now, it did not look like a young group of pilots. No. There's a couple of younger guys in there, but they're mostly older dudes. Whatever you need to do those cars, you're better at at 50 than you are at 20. Is it that? Also, you've got to work your way into that car. That's what I was going to say. Is it that, or is there a high cost to all this?
Starting point is 00:21:30 It's expensive. It's very expensive, but the drivers aren't paying for it oftentimes. So there's that there. We'll be right back with more of the Adam and Dr. Drew Show classics. We'll be right back with more of the Adam and Dr. Drew show classics. Last up today, we go to episode 800 titled Music Makes Me Angry. And that aired on April 6th, 2018. Adam and Dr. Drew talk about the term gaslighting and the history behind the term.
Starting point is 00:22:01 They also took calls. Enlighten us, gentlemen. Did we talk about the term gaslighting? I know what the term means. That's the one that my daughter throws around all the time. And if you're in a college campus, every time you argue with somebody, they just go, why are you gaslighting me? That's their go-to. That is from a film from the 30s or something. And it's weird that it made a comeback.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Because it's a convenient way to a comeback because gaslighting – Well, because it's a convenient way to throw people off because you're not really sure what they're saying. Gaslighting wasn't – Gaslighting was a movie about someone who was trying to make the other person feel crazy. Exactly. I guess it's called The Gaslight. Yes, it's called The Gaslight. But it must have been from the 30s or 40s. Yes, it was from the 30s, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Okay. And it didn't formally exist in the 90s. I mean, I knew it because I was an improv guy. I hung around with smart guys who watched a lot of movies. But the term, if I would say to anybody, I'm gaslighting you or you're gaslighting me, that wouldn't have made sense to anyone. Now, any argument is gaslighting. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:02 There's two moves. is gaslighting. Oh, really? Yeah. There's two moves. Gaslighting, which, again, confuses your opponent and makes them try to adjust
Starting point is 00:23:09 as opposed to going, stop, I'm not. This is an argument. Here's my logic. Or... Karen Valentine is being gaslit by her? Was that what that... Hold on.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Gary just put up a definition. What's it say? Karen Valentine... Manipulating someone by psychological means. Karen Valentine... That's me. Wait, hold on. Where do you see Karen Valentine. Manipulating someone by psychological means. Wait, hold on. Where do you see Karen Valentine? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:31 In the first episode, Karen Valentine is being gaslighted by her husband. Psychological means questioning their own sanity. That's a TV movie from the 70s. The film was from the 30s. They just use random things as an example of how it would be used in a sentence. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Karen Valentine. I know know what a random thing. I know. Oh, look at that. Look at that. It was used in the turn of the century. Turn of the century. We were looking at a graph of the frequency of use. It must have spiked when we had the monkeys farting into the flame on the man show, right?
Starting point is 00:24:05 Yeah. The lighting of the gas. Oh, yeah. Literally gaslighting. So what's going on? There's two moves now, which is you're gaslighting me, which immediately makes you confused if you're trying to have a discussion with somebody. Or the other is they project their own aggression onto you. You're being aggressive.
Starting point is 00:24:23 You're being sexy. Oh, yeah. That's been around for a while. Yeah. You're this. You're that, which is actually their disavowed parts of themselves that they're putting on you. It's confusing when you're the recipient of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Again, I blame you. Why? Because a lot of this stuff we're talking about, if you've argued with a woman enough, is kind of female behavior. It's less male and more female. I've had arguments with women. I've had arguments with men. And they argue in different ways. The quest for us to become women has caused a lot of this. And I blame Drew because Drew always looked at it as the light, the path. And I always said to him, I don't think it's the path. I think there are plenty of good qualities men have and plenty of good qualities women have and then plenty of bad qualities they both have. There is no one way. It's it's called a balance my friend no i there there's a balance there is a balance that is created yeah by my mentality and there's a balance that's created by my wife's
Starting point is 00:25:40 mentality and if we just ran our house and raise our kids by swinging all the way over to her side and just sort of going hey this is the new world order we think like you think and that's how we run our household that would not be good and conversely if we swung it over to my way it'd be a utopia i know you thought let's take some phone calls i know you thought i was going a different direction no if we swung it over to my way, it would be better, but it wouldn't be good. What's good is the balance. Yeah. That's the balance.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Yeah. Now. This wouldn't be good for your kids. That's right. Now, it'd be good for the neighborhood. No. The balance is what we're striving for. is what we're striving for. And if you are going to decide that there is no, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:27 everything's fluid and everything's, there is no man, there's no female. And if you've decided, like we've decided, that the enlightened path and the answer is toward the female side, and we've gone hard down that road over the last few years, and we're going even harder down that road and faster down that road over the last few years and we're going even harder down that road and faster down that road, then you are going to get these types of discussions, these types of thoughts. What type?
Starting point is 00:26:52 The gaslighting? Just the discussions we're having now that I felt threatened, he felt threatened, nobody should ever, like these sort of insane proclamations, you know, if this one child is ever threatened, you know, you turn on the news and it's like a child should not feel unsafe in their classroom. No child deserves to get shot at school. No parent wakes up and says, I hope my son or daughter gets shot on a school camp. Nobody wishes that for their children. And by you suggest, you know, it's like, all right, this is insane. This is ramblings of an insane purse of people. Right. I don't even.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Do you understand that every one of these debates I now hear on TV and the Internet has the one side going? Of course, I'm against school shootings. TV and the internet has the one side going of, of, of, of course I'm against school shootings, you know, of, of,
Starting point is 00:27:50 of, of, of course I don't hate Hispanic people or I'm not prejudiced against by, of course I think everyone is equal and has like stating things that are insane, obvious. And as a matter of fact, I would like it if the people that did that would not dignify it with an answer all the time when they're being accused of whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:28:12 These are non – these are not – this is not critical thinking. That's the other person gaslighting you. They're the one actually doing the gaslighting where you have to go, wait a minute. I'm not – am I racist? No, wait a minute. I'm not racist. Then you have to address it. That's gaslighting. Right. So, uh, sorry. What do you have anything to say about that? About the gaslighting? No, no. It was just that, that, that those strategies have become so commonplace now and they're so strategies. Yeah. And they're not Yeah. And they're not discourse. They're not logical.
Starting point is 00:28:48 They're not discussive. There's nothing happening except people acting out emotionally. It's really an acting out behavior. Okay. You ready to do this? Kyle, 22, Chicago. Kyle? Hey, what's up, Adam?
Starting point is 00:29:03 What's going on? I've been a fan forever. Thank you. I've been a fan forever i've been trying to get a hold of someone all day today i so i was listening to uh the serious xm i know you're familiar with barstool i know you had a few people on um in the past um and they were talking they recently bought this boxing league it's called rough and rowdy and it's it's the funniest thing ever there's they have just regular people that come it started with just like these hillbillies in west virginia and they
Starting point is 00:29:30 they hype up these fights and there was it's becoming huge there was 70 000 pay-per-view buys um the last time and they just got bill burr bill burstall and he was a huge fan of it and they just got him to um announce alongside It's with the Barstow president. And your name was just dropped randomly today on the XM saying that we need to get Kroll on here. He would be electric. And then I don't even think they know they had a boxing background. But I kind of just wanted to get your opinion on that. Bill Burr would know that, wouldn't he?
Starting point is 00:29:59 I would assume that they must have had some idea about boxing background. Otherwise, my name may not have been dropped. But look, I'm happy it was dropped. Yeah, you know, it's funny, not directly here, but I said, well, we started the show talking about how guys were turning into chicks. And I said, each time 10 guys turn into a chick, the 11th one becomes a cage fighter. The reason this stuff is on the rise is because we're stuffing we're not letting boys be boys anymore and it's breaking out it's going hard the other way right yeah we don't let my son can't play football at his school you know i mean they're
Starting point is 00:30:36 taking again this notion of hey we got a bunch of chicks and we're running the show and we don't like football because we find it aggressive and we know're running the show and we don't like football because we find it aggressive. And all the things we don't like about it from a feminine standpoint. So, hey, boys, be miserable because we've deemed this not good. Right. But if there's a bunch of dudes who are at the school, then they would deem it as good. It's unfair and it's kind of torture. Because kids really want to get out and get after it. My son told me, much like you and me, that football is one of the most important life experiences,
Starting point is 00:31:11 going from being sort of a schlubby freshman to anchoring an offensive line as a senior. Something about that is transformative. Of course. It's not just overcoming the skill. It's putting yourself in harm's way every play on behalf of your peers. Right. That's a middle-aged house frow's deemed it. She doesn't like the aggression.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Yeah. So she's going to get rid of it. And because they're in charge, and Drew, because you said their path was the answer, then we're all supposed to just get in line. How can I make that up? What should I do to make penance? I need a blowjob. Right now? After the show.
Starting point is 00:31:44 After the show. After the show. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just saying you got to have one of your lackeys look up all this, though, and then you got to get in touch with them because I've listened to all the podcasts. You guys have very, very similar humor, and I think it would be incredible. It would be exposure-wise and money-wise, I think it would be worth everything. Thanks, Kyle. You've got to at least look into it.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I shall look into Rough and Rowdy. Well, that's all for this week. Thanks for listening to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. Remember to check back each week for new episodes. And while you're at it, don't forget to like, subscribe, and rate us five stars wherever you get your podcasts.

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