The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - What's Wrong With Questioning The People That Are Wrong, Lisa Lampanelli and Marathons Are Racist (The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics)

Episode Date: October 14, 2023

On this episode of The Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics, the fellas get into an article in the New York Times about men wearing skirts and how society has totally changed, Former Comedienne Lisa Lampanelli stopped by to talk about life after comedy and they also break down genetic heritage and how society thinks about race way too much!

What's good y'all? Welcome to another edition of the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. I am your host, Big Brother Jake, a.k.a. Jake Warner. My government name. And once again, we got a fantastic show for you. First up, segment one, show number 1435 titled, What's Wrong With Questioning the People That Are Wrong, which aired on June 10th, 2021. Adam and Dr. Drew talk about Drew's emotional experience of watching Singing in the Rain, which led to Adam talking about a New York Times article that describes men and women wearing skirts.

And Adam has a very strong take on this. Check it out. I've been thinking a lot lately. I don't know why I sigh when I go down this path, but I'm thinking about it a lot. I've been having crazy thoughts lately, super crazy. I sat down and watched Singing in the Rain last night. Mm-hmm. And I had like an overwhelming emotional experience watching it.

What year do you think that movie's from? The 40s? I think it was 51, 49, 51. Gary helped. What was the title? Sorry. Singing in the Rain. It was early, early, early 50s.

Like 50, 51. I'm going to guess. But it still had all the vestiges of the 40s for sure 52 okay probably shot 51 to be fair to Drew there you go right on and I just went down this crazy

I'm thinking about a lot of I've been talking about freedom and I'm going to get that in a minute but that's not the emotional part of what I was well Gary there's something I've been thinking about that Gary can look up which was a new york times article from a couple of days back maybe op-ed probably about uh how nice it is that now that the summer's upon us uh it was a sort of rebuttal i don't know if it was a rebuttal, but the book called, I don't know, The Girls and Their Summertime Clothes or something. It's a famous book or story about the guy going out in New York City in like 1939 and now the weather's turned and women are wearing skirts again.

stories from guys who lived in New York who said once the weather starts warming up, you get to see all the women going out in their dresses and their skirts and they're beautiful and they're walking up and down through Manhattan. But the New York Times columnist take is now there's a lot of men wearing dresses and this is a good thing. Although there's not. It's a it's to West Village, maybe. I'm going along. I'm going down your road with this,

which is the road I'm going down with this is, is there anything from the past that we could just leave the fuck alone and say, it was okay, like singing in the rain. Good, God bless. Oh, not enough people of color were in it you know so if we have to go back so it feels like societal sabotage it feels like we're burning calories fucking up our world and and their thing is like oh no we're just going

back and sort of getting to the truth kind of kind of thing well i think you might enjoy my thoughts because that's exactly what I was feeling. It's one of the reasons I got emotional. It's like, oh, back then, these people were celebrating. They were trying to bring happiness to their audience. And I thought about, yes, and there were not enough people of color and it was not necessarily reflective of society and the struggles at the time intentionally. It was a big fantasy.

And they're self-conscious about it. They say it in the movie. We're just trying to bring some happiness to poor people struggling with their lives out there. But think about it this way. This is where the path I went down. I started thinking – because I used to treat people who were in their prime in the 30s and 40s. I got a deep connection with that population. And it used to treat people who were in their prime in the 30s and 40s, right? I got a deep connection with that population. And it used to bother me.

I couldn't really understand them. And that's a function of our generation. And in fact, I was in the shower this morning thinking about this. Is this interesting? Because I'm going somewhere with this. All right. It is that they were not genuine and real. And we wanted real in our generation.

Right. That's what we wanted. That was our thing. They were full of affect and they were they were they were singing in the rain versus Billy Jack. Exactly. I mean, I just I thought about Catcher in the Rye, which was all about that. You know, they're phony. They're phony was the worst thing you could be.

They're phony. Phony was the worst thing you could be. And these people were so invested in their persona rather than their personhood that when I would try to get them to stop smoking, which is what I was doing in the 90s and early 2000s, they would start sobbing in my office as though I was stripping them of their core being because they were the person that stood with a cigarette lighter and had a martini in one hand, a cigarette in the other, and that was who they were. That was me. And I couldn't relate. But I had a sort of an epiphany last night as we move into the new generation that wants to destroy everything that has come before it,

that these people were celebrating a lot. They were really trying to celebrate living and they were celebrating America. And they were doing it in a way that was disconnected to how good they really had things. Because I was looking at it going, wow, they could just – it was just on in 1938 and they were celebrating. it was just on in 1938. And they were celebrating. And like you said, when summer would turn on, you'd appreciate the people walking down the street in their great fashions and stuff. The rest of the world was not doing so great at that time. There was a lot of struggles elsewhere that we had.

It was like oblivious. oblivious. Then I started thinking, okay, so what was happening was literally every seat in every theater would be full watching these movies. I mean, think about it. When you saw the pictures of the audiences, every seat was full and people were well-dressed. That's why theaters are so big. They would fill every goddamn seat, every episode, every showing because there was no television. There was radio, but real entertainment was you'd go out to the movies, right? You couldn't go to the theater. It was too expensive or there was no theater. And that industry that was doing that, that was celebrating, that was putting up things

like Singing in the Rain, it was filling every seat, it had only started like 30 years earlier. I mean, it's literally the duration of time that I was on Loveline, for instance. And 20 years earlier, you had other sorts of artists that, to me, were doing the same thing. Like Chaplin was kind of doing the same thing. He was sort of – there was something celebratory in his little dances that people were connecting to. Well, so the

understanding with entertainment was we're going to try to bring some joy into your life. And it came out of the vaudeville, you're right. It came out of the theater. But it was more. Something new was happening. Think about it. It was a new the theater. But it was more. Something new was happening. Think about it.

It was a new technology. Same thing as the internet. It just happened to be celluloid films that you projected on the screen. New technology. It centered in Los Angeles. And if people were part of that new technology, think YouTube, you could become known all over the world. Just because your image was on that new technology. Right. That was changing how we saw the world just because your image was on that new technology right that was changing

how we saw the world but there was something very american about the whole thing that's what i was sort of thinking but go ahead the joy well uh you entertained to bring joy so your audience in terms of entertainment was uh no different than a children's hospital or an old age home. You'd show up in your clown outfit and you would try to put a smile on the face of your audience. You know, that was sort of the plan. You weren't there to burden them or to lay some inconvenient truths on them. You were just there to entertain them. truths on them you're just there to entertain them at some point entertainment we we we there was a thing that happened which is we decided that we must use this platform for some greater

social good and it started being considered an art yeah but i mean and a political instrument right just people said you have this platform what are you doing dancing and telling jokes right and um and it kind of started as you know probably sincere and it made sense like oh yeah you do have this big audience why are you wasting it just telling knock knock jokes but it's kind of morphed into this sort of preachy, morose, kind of anti-American depression that has now sort of become. And if you look no further than all the movies that are nominated for Film of the Year by the Oscars circa now versus, you know, 50 years ago. Obviously, it's a completely it seems insane. But what movie what what movies out of the seven, eight or nine or whoever they nominate every year? Are there any that are sort of celebrate America?

No, it's the opposite. Right. It's the exact opposite of what that was. That's why I got emotional. It was the opposite of what I'm seeing today. Right. And so. And it's sad.

It made me sad. Well, there's this interesting thing in that they think somehow there became this movement. It was kind of from the 70s. Of course. Which is like, you need to sit down and tell your eight-year-old how bad things are. Yes. And about sex while you're at it. And about sex and about everything.

You need to just go ahead and lay that on them. And we're going to start with the ozone layer. Yeah, yeah. And then we'll just keep going from there. Yeah. And at some point that became noble, but it really, it's really a way to ruin kids' childhood and, and to make them miserable.

And we're probably reaping the rewards of that harvest. Now, you know, we planted the seeds in the seventies and now we've got a bunch of fucking miserable 50 year olds out there. And I, uh, I can never figure out what's in it for them other than

all roads lead to narcissism. But there is something so appealing about it to people, and then it's repugnant to other people., in an interesting way, isn't that the divide right now between the people that want to be sheep and wear masks and lockdown versus people that find that repulsive? Welcome back to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. Once again, I'm your host, Big Brother Jake, host of the Big Brother Jake podcast here on Podcast One. But you're not here for that. You're here for the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. Once again, I'm your host, Big Brother Jake, host of the Big Brother Jake Podcast here on Podcast One. But you're not here for that. You're here for the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. So let's continue. Episode 1481, Lisa Lampanelli, one of my favorite comedians, she stopped by the show, which aired on October 7th, 2021.

And she didn't disappoint. She held back on nothing. And it was nothing but laughs. Check it out. Welcome to our guest. Yeah, just acknowledge. You can make a grunt. Well, I thought you would get right into it.

And our guest is Lisa Lampanelli who we both love dearly. Thank you. Oh my God, you look great, both of you. You have not changed in three years and I definitely have just gotten better. You have. I know, it's weird. You have not changed in three years. And I definitely have just gotten better. You have. I know, it's weird.

I think not working is great. I think people who get the F out of the comedy business are just happier. Yeah, let's talk about that. So you've retired officially, I think, 2018. Yeah. Coming up right around your three-year anniversary. Yeah. Right?

Of not doing stand-up. Coming up right around your three-year anniversary of not doing stand-up. Funny, I'll bring it back to you, Lisa Lampanelli, but I was talking to the guy who invented CrossFit. Kind of an interesting guy. Grew up in the Valley. Brought the company up from zero to multi-million dollar franchises, everything else. And about a year ago, he got canceled. So you get canceled from the company you create,

which is the New World Order. He got canceled and they just cashed him out. He's like, best fucking thing that's ever happened to me. I just do whatever I want. It was my greatest fear was actually the best thing that ever happened to me. I do what I want all day, every day. It's awesome. Yeah, I feel that way, but it took, I was just on drew off the air. It took like three years to

actually start to get the balance right. Because at first I was like, Oh, I'll just jump into something else. And I'll help people and I'll do like a big podcast. And I was like, Oh, that's really stressful. I don't love this. And then it was like, I'll do nothing. I'll be the chick who sits at home in gardens and hangs with my rescue dogs. And if you talk for a living for 30 years, you just can't shut up. You have to do something. So now my mother passed away about, oh, it's her birthday today. Passed away like three, four months ago. And I was like, okay, I finally have no obligations. What would I fill the calendar with if I just wanted to have fun? Hold on. Your mom's dead? Yeah.

Matt, I need that edible, arrangeable. See if you can catch the van before it. Oh, my God. I just had your mother's birthday circled, but I didn't hear about this. It is her also. Yeah, but that perishable shit I sent. Well, you know, she's going to love it anyway. You know, the dead enjoy the rotting fruit. But thank God, you know, everything is fine.

But I was like, wow, I'd like to do little things that don't look to anyone else like a hobby, but to me do. So when I started my podcast that I just started a few months ago, I'm like, oh, it just feels fun. There's no pressure for it to be. Actually, there's pressure for it to be good. Obviously, no one wants to put out shitty work. But who cares if it gets a ton of listeners? I don't need to make any money it just is peaceful so i think crossfit guy was right and i think i was right to get out of the

business then cancel culture started i would have been canceled for sure oh yeah there's no way you could have done the jokes now that i did back then so i'm like oh this all was divine intervention which i believe in and i think it's like, this could be a good life if I keep daily getting it into balance, which is hard because it gets out of whack, then back into pleasure and just balance. I have a strange sort of – I can tell you this. I read Viktor Frankl while I was coming back from France, which is Man's Search for Meaning. It's about this psychiatrist that was in a concentration camp. It's insane. I actually interviewed an author who did this research on the guy who created the concentration camp.

So I've learned more about this stuff than I want to know. But the one thing that comes so vividly to light with his stuff is we're a meaning-making machine. We always got to be doing things that feel meaningful or we're making meaning of. It feels like that's kind of what you've been on to. Well, I agree. And I think I at first thought I had to have meaning with a capital M. Yeah. And when I got out of stand-up, I was like,

everything has to have that infusion of huge meaning to the world and to me. Now it's like I do like 12 little things with small m's and i'm like oh this is cute and if i look at my calendar i literally for the first time in my life don't dread anything like i will even friends dude like covid was horrible but it was good for me in one case i cut out some people who were sucking my oxygen draining me and by the way it wasn't their fault i was volunteering for it. You know, I kept them in my life just to maybe have meaning. Oh, I can fix them.

As if like I could heal them or something. So, I mean, it really feels like, okay, finally things are coming together in a good way. Were you doing any codependency work along the way there? Oh, dude, I went to codependency rehab. There's a week-long program that I went to and I was like okay girl you gotta slow your because that's what it sounds like like that's a major shift well here's the question though this is really funny i had dinner with friends last night who were really successful uh writers and we're all just like the food stuff never goes away and i was like wait a minute i'm gonna see dr drew tomorrow

and talk about and ask about why the F are we all still, me and them and probably most of the world, still attached to food as something for comfort? You know what my instinct is on that question is essentially that nothing ever really goes away. You just sort of learn how to manage it differently. Right. And it doesn't bother you so much. Well, what about your hair and your look? That goes away. That goes away? That goes away. You just sort of learn how to manage it differently. And it doesn't bother you so much.

What about your hair and your look? That goes away. But I mean, the things that are in us profoundly... Teeth. Yeah, it goes to. Moisture in the nether regions. Try vagina.

Your vagina has to dry right off, I'm sure. No, no, you're right. But the point being is that these things are really in us in a you know very wired kind of way but we manage them differently right we manage them entirely differently we regulate them differently and that's what changes well that's what changes let's talk about food for a second because i am the same with everyone else you look forward to it everyone's stricken with this. I've found, like personally, the only realistic way to really deal with it, because there becomes this thing. It's an interesting phenomenon, which is I grew up poor.

I was always hungry. I kind of had to make more construction, make my own lunches. I couldn't afford to eat off the lunch truck back when lunch trucks were lunch trucks. They were called roach coaches. And they went da-da-da-da-da. Yeah. And now I have enough money to go do whatever all the time. And I'm constantly going, no, keep walking.

Don't stop. You know, literally. Well, like I'll give you an example. I was eating there. They were watching football, the guys and somebody was ordering food you know and he went this place has killer shakes you know now normally i wouldn't order a shake because it was six dollars or four dollars or whatever that that put me over the top but now it's not the money you're just looking at someone going i really want this shake i can afford can afford five. I'm not having one.

You know what I mean? And it's a concept, whatever. But for me, I think the only thing that works is I go, I will treat this meal like the treat it is, and I'll just put it at the end of whatever I have to do that day. And I'll fast it, I'll exercise, I'll work, I'll do whatever it is, but it'll just sit out there. And then I will go enjoy it. If I enjoy it midday, I've lost my momentum. But that is that management issue again.

You're putting it downstream because you can manage it. You can't put it away. No. Then everything will explode. No. There's some jicama waiting for me at the end of a long work day with some locale ranch dressing like that's not gonna do it right you had to push it downstream what the whole crazy thing is you know having had the weight loss surgery kept most of the weight off i still am like what i am just still obsessed with staying the right size for me

with the quote quote unquote right size um you need tiny little amounts but i always am attracted to only carbs sugar and everything like that and i'm like dude will this ever end i feel like i'm gonna be i'm 60 now i'm gonna be 80 at some point probably still working on my fucking eating and i'm so sick of it but then you're gonna go to town oh yeah that's true i'll burst that i'll burst that sleeve open i don't't give a shit. It's such a drag because food starts at birth. You know, with the codependency and stuff that didn't start until a little later. So I was able to work on that and figure it out. But this is such a primal issue. It's a deep thing. And it may be even genetic. Who knows? You know, it might be. Oh, definitely.

Definitely. But yeah. Hey, you know what? We're all still working on ourselves. And it can have many different sort of features too. I mean some of it is the relationship with appetite and how we manage appetite. Some of it is the relationship with the actual experience of chewing and biting and swallowing. Some of it is the taste. Some of it is the full stomach. There's many different things that different people respond to, right? Each of us has our own little version of what it does for us and what the issues are.

You know, it's not just eating. Yes. There's all kinds of experiences within eating. I think you'd find this interesting that one of the few times I didn't come home and want a quote unquote snack was I had dinner three weeks ago with two women. I always hang out with people younger than me. I don't feel like I'm 60. I sort of have the attitudes of like, oh, there's still hope. There's still ways to work on yourself.

And when you're over 60, sometimes people just give up and they're like worried about their taxes. Fuck you. Like, you know, come on. So I have dinner with these two women that I consider peers. And I was like, wait a minute. It was so fulfilling. The three and a half hours of connection. I never have dinner that long that I didn't come home and feel like,

oh, I want to fill that hole with food. Right. So you fed it with something else. With nothing. No, you fed it with the connection. So I think that might be the key. Yeah. Always.

People are always the key. Always, always. Connection, framing, holding. It's always there. We'll be right back with more of the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. Welcome back to the Adam and Dr. Drew Show Classics. Up next, episode 1501 titled Marathons Are Racist, which aired on November 17th, 2021. Adam and Dr. Drew go into depth about racial backgrounds and their take on how society is the main factor

regarding genetic heritage. Plus, they take your call. Take a listen. I find certain regional, and they're probably ethnicities because these are regions that have been reproducing together for long periods of time. Extremely appealing to me, like visually, like attractive. And Czech is one of those for me.

And it's almost weirdly uncanny. Like I can pick it up right away because it's in my sweet spot. It's in my zone. And you know how particular I am. I'm a little bit weirdly passionate with my sweet spots. Yeah. Isn't that weird? Yeah.

It's very weird. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. But, I mean, why should it be these little narrow, and what is it about my own? And, by the way, if it's something to do with. Well, that's because society enforces their standard of beauty on you. That's what it is. It's not.

It enforces their standard of beauty on you. That's what it is. It's not – beauty is anything to anyone all the time and every time, but society drills down and says you want blonde hair and blue eyes. Particularly kind of attractive too. But be that as it may, I always wonder is there something about my own genetic heritage that sort of an echo it calls upon. But then I think that makes like almost no sense because we should be much more interested in genetic diversity. We should be interested in people that are very different from us because that creates a healthier population. So it's probably – in reality, because we don't understand genetics that well, there's probably a balance between the two that you can kind of get right.

You know what I mean? Getting the best of a certain population that has some good genes in it, but also admixturing other stuff to increase the population. Anyway, Oscar, the insurance company we were talking about on Monday, you said that that commercial jumped the shark for society. It's a black man talking about doctors not believing them because they're black and now there's... But that's systemic racism. You keep asking for evidence of systemic racism.

That's what people point at, stuff like that. Well, they don't really point at that, but let me explain something. But you should know that in my profession, they do point at that as an evidence of systemic... Okay, anybody... Whenever anyone who talks about systemic racism is asked about systemic racism, they don't point at anything because they point at inequity. You know, they point at, well, look at look how much better white kids are doing. Whatever pointed outcomes.

They don't really point it. OK, but OK, we're asked. You say this. You say the system is systemic. And then you keep point at outcomes. They don't really point at, okay. Whereas you say the system is systemic, and then you keep pointing at outcomes. Yeah. And so it'd be like me saying marathons are racist. And I'd go, how come? And they'd go, because Kenyans win every year. Yeah, that's the outcome.

Right. What is actually racist about the actual event? And I'd go, look who wins every year. Yeah, that's not the event. It's not they're running downhill and white people are running uphill. It's the same thing. They just happen to excel at this. Can we accept that? No. I think we do when it comes to same thing. They just happen to excel at this. Can we accept that? No.

I think we do when it comes to the marathon. That's why you like sports. That's why everyone loves sports. They love that. So what's systemically racist? You're looking at an outcome. Kenyans win. Well, you understand that a lot of people that make these cases are interested in equality of outcome, uber alice. Right. Whatever it takes. That is the most

slippery slope society can offer. Well, many have gone down that path, whether it's China or Russia or you name it. There have been many that have tried. Right. Unfortunately, we have a new generation that has seemingly no exposure to what happens to that right or that they imagine it will be different this time which is right so uh i said it's a jump the shark type moment because how long can you talk about systemic racism before look when something enters okay it's like when you turn on the tv you study the commercials you see where we're at as a society as i always say you see gay couples frequently on television now. You see mixed race couples frequently, maybe exclusively. I feel like I haven't seen a white couple in a while.

Now, if you'd done that 25 years ago, people would be confused. What are these two fellas doing? You know what I mean? Why are they hugging? These two fellas. Why are these two fellas hugging? Wait a minute. They're living together, and that's their roommates, and who's the kid?

Must be a dad. Maybe water damage, and he had to move in with his friend. Like, you would not even know what was going on. Divorced dad had to move in with his friend. Yeah, like odd couple style now what i'm saying is is we don't explain it today yeah in 2021 it's just it's a gay couple yeah no one you don't have to announce you're gay there's we don't have this there's no backstory about well he moved in because uh you know no it's just just it just is what it is we would call a good thing and he he is a black man just goes and of course black people don't you

know not listen he didn't know now the point is is he doesn't even have to explain it it's just here we are you know what i mean you go oh yeah sure black people whatever uh bad sign for society man why why tell me because it just means we've been beating this racist drum so hard that Whatever. Bad sign for society, man. Why? Why? Tell me. Because it just means we've been beating this racist drum so hard that eventually people, whatever's going on from a societal standpoint, at some point people are going to try to make money off it. Right. And so, see, to me, I think this is a good sign for a couple reasons. One is people, once capitalism kicks into it, then people get pissed.

They're like, oh, I see you're charging money. No, I don't think it's a good sign because I think you're basically – you've willed this thing into existence. It's BS. It doesn't really exist. It's BS. But you should know my profession has responded to this very rigorously and very seriously. very rigorously and very seriously. And there are going to be a lot of physicians of different races, particularly black, a lot.

They're taking care of business. They're changing the profession. And good, because then this will look silly. So you're saying, you know, anyway, so there you go. All right. Brian, 42, Huntington Beach. Hey, guys. I've been a fan long before medical information and being a voice of freedom was cool.

So I appreciate everything you guys have been doing. Thanks. Since that mattered more. Yeah. Although I love the comedy. It'd be nice to get back to the comedy and not have to deal with all this stuff. You're saying Adam's not funny? Is that what you're saying? How dare you?

Just let him, John. Sorry. Go ahead. So I was calling regarding some conspiracy theory stuff, but I should call it hypothesis to be honest, but I don't know how much you're willing to dive into that. I'm interested. I'm interested. Go ahead.

Okay, cool. Tell me if you want to fast forward that. I'm interested. Go ahead. Okay, cool. Tell me if you want to fast forward because I might have too much stuff here. You can fast forward right now just to be bold. Go ahead. It doesn't need to have a comment next to it. Just let him go. Go ahead, Brian. Here we go.

I'll go straight to the highlight. So have you heard of Event 201 in October 2019? No. Okay, so it's crazy that people don't know about this, and I always like letting people know. So October 2019, there was an event. It was called Event 201. It was a war game style, a pandemic war game. Oh, yes. I'm aware of this. I'm aware of this. Yes. And it looked awfully like, weirdly like what actually happened. It was run by, yeah, Johns Hopkins. I'm not claiming to know motives of anyone, including people like Bill Gates.

I'm not claiming to know stuff. I don't know. But, you know, all these organizations are involved in this stuff. They typically are. But it happened to be a simulation of a worldwide coronavirus respiratory pandemic. And they, you know, in their simulation, they claimed it maybe came out of South America. That's pretty much the only difference. And they did this, you know, two months before anyone admitted COVID existed. And they act. And so, you know, the guy who

claimed COVID existed at all from Wuhan, the hospital in Wuhan, he was told by his state, Hubei province state, and I have a family by marriage in Wuhan, so I got a weird perspective on this. But he was told to stop spreading, you know, quote unquote, lies. He was told by the state of Hubei. And then that 34-year-old doctor refused to stop warning people. And then he died. He died. He was 34 years old. He died of COVID back when we all thought that that was a likely outcome.

Now we know that that's bullshit, right? And two of his colleagues died in the same hospital all in one month. So this all, so far everything you've said, I think, can be corroborated factually. It's not conspiracy theory at this point. The conspiracy theory kicks in is when you make something out of this horrible coincidence. Yeah. Well, we don't know the doctors dying is a horrible coincidence. I agree with you.

Maybe, maybe not, right? Oh, yeah. He was 34 years old and he was very healthy. This is not an open you. Maybe, maybe not, right? Oh, yeah. He was 34 years old and he was very healthy. This is not an open America. Yeah, you're right. Highly unlikely. And by the way, I fell for all this stuff. I was going to the grocery store in

March 2020 with my gloves on my hands. I fell for the whole thing. Hey, listen, I was in discussion groups with groups of high-level academics again, and I ask the question. I go, well, why do we do this? Two answers. Why do we lock down?

Why do we do these excessive things? Why the craziness? They would always say the same thing, which I find stunning now that they can say it out loud. A, panic, and B, because China did it. Right. Now, look, I'm going to go along with you on a few things. And here's my conspiracy theory. My conspiracy theory part of this whole thing was we started calling it, Trump especially, you know, China virus or Wuhan virus or whatever it is.

And it was immediately attacked. There was an attack for labeling the origins of the virus. That seemed a little suspicious, number one. But that was just an attack on Trump. They wanted to get him out of office. I get it. But the other part of this is when anyone started floating the lab leak theory, how everyone turned.

Racist. You're racist. Well, it was racist, but it was also tinfoil hat right right kind of stuff yeah and it's like the thing that pissed me off because i have family from right i have family from wuhan and uh although they're very anti-ccp you know although they have some families still there who are not but um they uh when i heard that that it's racist to say it came from the virology lab, which is documented, well documented, as studying gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses. Well documented. Yeah.

This is all true. When I heard that and they said that's racist, but you know what they said is not racist? That some Chinese dude was eating some crazy animal. That's right. We decided that's the not racist story. That's right. That's exactly right. You're thinking so far is just factually correct.

Right. So nothing is conspiracy. I'm trying to start with the part where you guys... Well, hold on. For me, it's always easy. Lab leak, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. Where's all the pushback coming from? The media is pushing hard, hard.

It's like, over what? It came from pushing hard, hard. It's like over what? It came from a lab or didn't come from the lab. It was Trump derangement to begin with. Yeah, I get it. But what do you know over there at CNN that I don't know about this lab or about ivermectin? When you know nothing, I know nothing. My answer is. Why do you fucking have any say in what a doctor does with his or her patient?

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