The Adam Friedland Show (Cumtown) - ANTHONY FANTANO | Radiohead, Abbey Road, Drake vs. Kendrick

Episode Date: June 19, 2025

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Should we do the Abbey Road thing or not? I don't even know what the thing is to you. Okay, look at how schizophrenic these notes were. This is how angry you were making me. Are you talking about a ranking that I did or just the Abbey Road review? What do you mean? You ranked the songs in Abbey Road? Never mind. You're just talking about my straight up Abbey Road review. You had an issue with it?

You ranked The Beatles? No, stop talking. Have you ranked The Beatles? Listen. What? Good evening and welcome back to the Adam Friedland show. I'm Adam Friedland. If you've been enjoying this new season of the show so far, I'd like to remind you to consider supporting the Adam Friedland Family Foundation

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other platforms. It would be safe to say that Fantano is perhaps the world's biggest music critic currently. He's also known as the internet's busiest music nerd, a nickname he gave himself. As the host of a talk show, I'll admit it, I have no idea what it's like to be a YouTuber. So in an effort to relate, I started my own YouTube project, a social experiment, if you will.

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in the world. Including today's guest, please enjoy billion views cross-platform. He is perhaps the biggest music critic in the world. I think that's actually you could argue that. Everyone please welcome Anthony Fantano. Bigger. More. More. More. How's it going? Good. How you doing? Okay.

Yeah, I watched your Abbey Road review last night and it literally infuriated me into not being able to sleep for two hours. Why? We're going to get to that later. You just brought it up now. It really does elicit such a... What's wrong with my abby? No, we're going to get to that later.

No, tell me. We're going to do a whole segment where we go through the... You're going to have to defend whatever the... Insanity is. Who do you think you... I think you're a psycho. I think you're a sicko. You're going 2 X on this crap

I'm not listening to all the music that I review casually I mean there are a lot of records that I review and I just don't Listen again either because I don't like it or maybe it's like, you know Not calling back to me in the way that some other albums are but like those albums that do Like stick with me and I am like listening to in a casual way and showing my friends Yeah, like seeing a show like you know I mean for example like you know in my downtime Last year, I was listening to Brad a lot. You know and there was like a lot of Brad Pitt

Charlie X. Oh that yeah But that that's kind of a that I because of how much I was listening to that yeah There's a lot of stuff that was happening in my life last year that I associate with that album I mean that was that was the biggest album of last year I mean for me for a lot of people I guess it's it might doesn't get exhausting needing to think something about something absolutely because for me I listened to it I was like gay guys are probably having the best time to this but like I don't know it's just and it's fine Yeah, I'm glad they they're having a great time

It's just like not ever I don't even have an opinion about it Not everything is gonna appeal to everyone and I mean as opinionated as I am about a lot of things like I'm not gay I'm definitely yeah, we know you don't like that. I just want to say yeah the apple in the tree. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I've heard I mean It's every it's an uber is not not liking Brad is like probably like the straightest thing that you can do I don't not like it. I just didn't respond. It doesn't resonate with you. It did. Yeah, it was just like I Could tell it's like people there are people that are like this fucking amazing and I

Feel I'm gonna live forever and for me it was just like I don't know there's one song that the short one that sounds like radio and I like that one oh the with like the sad sense in the back yeah yeah yeah no that's a great one it's she's called Charlie IDF though right what are you like what are your early earliest music memories like how did you get into me where you're? You're from Connecticut? Yeah. And your dad's got big muscles and stuff?

Yeah. He's a bodybuilder? He was a powerlifting coach. And you're a bodybuilder as well? I mean, I know how to lift because he taught me, yeah. It's a family thing. Having big old muscles? I wouldn't say it's an institution, but like, you know.

You want your body to match your dad? Fuck no. Yeah. No. But like yeah, you know you want your body to match your dad Fuck no. Yeah, no He was in very bad shape and bad health for a long time because of how far he kind of pushed himself Oh cuz he was lifting too many weights He's torn muscles had to have surgeries and so on and so forth, but it was you know, yeah Yeah, why would you get why would you even want to get muscles like fashion muscles? That's your fault?

I guess he was getting other guys buffed too? Yeah, he was a coach. It must be, was he like a chill dad? It must be- Oh no, absolutely not. If my dad was so buff, I wouldn't have liked it. He was very imposing, he was very heavy on the threats. So why'd you get muscles too? To patch things up maybe?

No, I just like going to the gym. What was your first musical memory? First musical memories. That's really what you want to know? Yeah, like why do you like music? That's why I like music. Yeah. Because I was a kid and my parents played me Paul Simon and Graceland.

I remember being a kid and listening to it. There's a nostalgic aspect to it. I mean, I love that for you, number one. That's a little, I don't like, I love that for you. That's what women say to their friends. When they say that, like when they get a new boyfriend, he's like, for you. It's kind of like, it sounds like an old Jewish man too.

For you, I love, I like that. What do you mean, you like that for me? I do like that for specifically you. Why for me? It's a great album. What are you talking about? I don't know if I would want that to be my first. You know, it's like.

You infuriate me to know that. Honestly. What was your first? My parents never had that moment with me like you just described where they sat me down. It's like, hey, this is like. They didn't do it. It was just in the car and stuff., hey, this is like, I'm trying to put you on. They didn't do it, it was just in the car and stuff.

But no, it's like either way, in the car, whatever. You know, they were never like, you gotta check this out. You know, so it's like, whatever was kind of popular at the time, like I just kind of, just, osmosis just took in based on whether or not it just appealed to me instantly. And that was like, you know, Green Day, that was like Nirvana, it was like TLC,

it was like Coolio and Biggie, and you know, just stuff that was like Nirvana, it was like TLC, it was like Coolio and Biggie and you know just stuff that was popular. I don't know if I would want that to be my friend. I mean I was kind of you know again I agree with your sentiment. I don't think if your parents say to you I want you to check this out then by virtue of the fact that they're your parents you're not going to like it. Conversely I had a lot of friends who were like into certain bands and certain artists and like I would hear I would even like see You know them say stuff like this like turn that garbage off You know like while my parents like didn't necessarily push me in any direction

They were kind of down with whatever I felt like I was into which yeah I felt like kind of gave me the ability to just kind of decide on my own what was cool And what was they let you listen to what you wrote any music whether it was like metal or rock or rap or pop or whatever You know it was like it was cool. That's nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but do people's parents still do that I feel like it's like the town from Footloose They would do that there's like a lot of younger people that watch me and sometimes like when they do kind of describe such experiences to me that I generally get like you know

Positive stories about like, oh yeah, my dad's into all these bands that I'm into. Or like, I mean, there's a generational shift now, you know, there's like kids that tell me like, yeah, my dad put me on a Sonic Youth. I couldn't name one track. Of Sonic Youth? Yeah, everyone says, acts like it's a... I mean, that's fine. It's just funny because things have shifted in such a way to wear for some parents That's like oldies now like Sonic Youth is oldies. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like smashing pumpkins is oldies. I like that's a good man They're a good man. I'll say they were you banned when I was young the one time

My parents were like I want you to check this out my mom and I feel so bad about it She she came into my I was in high school. She was like hey Adam like she had like a CD in her Head she's like hey Adam like you like reggae, right? And I was like, yeah, I love reggae What information was she basing that off of? That you were a big reggae guy. She knew I liked Bob Marley and stuff. Yeah, I mean whatever I mean, okay It's not that crazy of a thing to know about me So my mom so when I was in high school the one time my parents suggested I check something out my mom walked in my room, she said, hey, I'm like reggae, right?

She had a CD in her hand. I was like, yeah, I like reggae. And then she goes, well, there's a rabbi who does reggae. And I got the CD and I thought, and I was like, get the f**k out of my room right now. I was like, that will never be cool. That is the worst idea for it. I that is this Fuck you. I think I said I called her gay maybe I was like you're gay mom and Then I got to school. I went to public school and my non-jewish friends were like yo There's this rabbi that does reggae. This is a matzah. See I who guy. Yeah, it was my It was the most shocking thing the world was like I shouldn't have that way to my mother Yeah, I can't believe I spoke to her that way

Yeah, she was right he popped off when I was in college and a lot of people thought it was cool the protocols of the elders of Zion You know if you throw a if you throw around terminology like that eventually you are gonna get a reggae rabbi It's gonna happen right there were like a couple there are like moments you remember your whole life that like you get shook where you're like this this has blown my mind and this has changed my life like what like what were a couple of those moments when you're a kid? Where like with bands music that I heard that like changed my life. Where you're like this is f**king wow like wait you should. like

Wait you should I Think like getting into really sort of like aggressive heavy metal music when I was a teenager It was probably like a moment like that and then I think probably hearing like bands like Dead Kennedys for the first time You know what? Like okay way on you know what you know It was like a mind-blowing band when I was like an adolescent, like in that period that you're talking about? Rage Against the Machine. Yeah. So, that's like around when Evil Empire came out. Yeah, yeah. Like, I was so f***ing into Bulls on Parade. Crazy song. Yeah. Did your parents get divorced? Yeah. Yeah, that Rage Against the Machine was big for divorce. I won't do what they told you! You know, that, like, I like I did hear that like within a couple years after that happened

So I mean yeah, that's yeah that hit at the right time Yeah, it's it is music that is presented as like smart politics, but it's literally for It's literally for babies. I think kind of I think I think you I would do it You what that's just the one dumb song. But an adult man, the guitars went to forever. Like if you're actually a Rage fan, that's one of your least favorite songs. That's one of your least favorite songs. If you're a Rage fan.

What do you mean? It's a sick song. If you're a casual fan. I would listen to it before, if I was about to be in an NFL football game, and I want to break someone's face, I would listen to it. That's the thing. That's the context in which it makes sense. You don't have to do that where you say that that song is not... Well, I don't have to, but I did.

F*** you, I won't do it. What are the words? F*** you, I won't do what you tell me. That's so sick. But that is what a baby says, like writing a song. Well, the song is anti-cop though. Yeah, the parents of society. Wait. You did, you consumed like criticism when you were a kid or what?

No. You read like Pitchfork probably. When I was a kid? You didn't when you were a teenager. When you were growing up. You didn't read Pitchfork? No. No, this is a bullsh**. No. You didn't read Pitchfork? No.

No, this is a bullsh**. No. You're lying. Like I find that very hard to believe. I think the most me and my friends. You think a numerical value to a. Yeah. You happened upon that?

Well listen, I'm not saying that like Pitchfork didn't influence me or that I wasn't like aware of Pitchfork when I started doing what I did, but the thing is like, you're asking me? I'm not gonna pretend to sort of like Have cool tastes and cool points of being like yeah I was on the pitchfork before anybody else was or whatever It's just wasn't the thing I was paying attention to when I was younger It made me feel old interacting with your car

Well again, there's like a lot of new pop that just sounds like pop from the 2000s now, right? It doesn't seem like anything sounds like anything new. I Mean after you I think like what's the kid day of now? the 2000s now. Right it doesn't seem like anything sounds like anything new. I mean after you... I think... What's the Kid A of now? What's the Kid A of now? There is none. What's like this Stevie Wonder of now? See here's the thing and I'm gonna bust your balls a little bit about this. Like cause I'm a boomer? No no no like Kid A is a great record classic record love it. Okay, but the thing is like I feel like I feel like whether or not that's a mind-blowing album to you depends on like how much electronic music you've heard before you got

Introduced to kid a you were already in I was 15 I was 14 years old and I was like wow you're asking me what the kid a is of and also shut up It's like the best up. It's amazing. It's a great album, but the thing is like, what do you mean? If you've heard Apex Twin before you heard Kid A, that album's not blowing your mind the same way. Who cares?

Do you understand what art is? OK, you're asking. There are things that you're influenced by, and then you improve upon them. OK, OK, OK. I'm just saying, what are the new things? OK, you're asking me what is an artist that kids blow their minds at because of

an ignorance to other sounds and genres out there in music? I'd say it's Playboy Cardi. He's the Stevie Wonder of now? No, he's the Kid A of now. He's the Kid A of now. Yeah, he's the artist that children's minds are blown by because they have an ignorance toward what came before it. Kid A isn't for children, it's for the smartest people on earth. It's for some of the people that understand children's minds are blown by because they have an ignorance toward what came before it.

It isn't for children, it's for the smartest people on earth. For some of the people that understand that the president is, you can't trust, I don't know. When you sh** on something, right, if you don't like something, the artist is obviously going to get pissed off because they like worked hard on it and they're like, fuck this guy. But they're fans, I think, also. Have you seen a rise in the people that like the artist getting pissed off at you? Over the course of time that I've been doing what I do, I wouldn't say there was a rise.

I still see, and I, really in the first few years of doing what I do full time, one of my earliest reviews was a review that like Blew up and I just got widespread hate for it. You know what my beautiful dark twisted fantasy But you just what It's bad. No, it's not bad. It's just okay. What do you mean? Just it's I think No way, he has better out Nicky verse on Monster. Yeah, there's highlights on it. It's got the best Jay-Z verse I've ever heard. Goblins, Spookies. That is not the best Jay-Z verse. Halloween, Frankenstein, things that go bump in the night, Monsters. It's great. It's okay. It's great.

It's okay. It's not, it's not, it's come on. Carlos dropouts better. You gave Yeezus a three? I gave it a five. But it's, that was a music that when people heard it they were like this is a new type of a thing. I mean, again, that depends on what you've heard.

Kanye was copying Death Grips. I have it on good. 100%. What? I have it on good authority that a friend of mine who was connected to his team, you know, helped burn him a bunch of CDs and stuff that like. Who, Nick Quintez? No.

It was the early 2010s. Uh huh. Though that freak was still around around that time. Nick Quintez? Yeah, he was in kindergarten. Yeah, probably. No, he was like, I can't remember... Was he, he's like an old man that looks like a little kid? Gary Pullman? No, no, no. He's younger. Anyway. Anyway. I don't even want to talk about that freakazoid. Sorry, can you stop processing information?

I know a friend of mine who had knowledge that a bunch of sort of prevailing industrial hip hop artists. So they're copying Trent Reznor. Including Death Grips, they had their music burn on a CD. He was exposed to it. But the thing is like, I think- So funny he's getting influenced by other artists. But with that being said,

I think Travis Scott had more of an impact on the sound of that record than Death Grips did. So what? I'm not saying that is a bad thing. You're talking... That's just what art is. You posited a few minutes ago that there was absolutely no Death Grips influence. No, you're saying he's biting. You're saying he's biting, right? I think it's not that interesting if you've heard other stuff is what I'm saying. You're such a dickhead, dude. I mean that's not that interesting if you've heard other stuff is what I'm saying. You're such a dickhead, dude

I mean, that's kind of my job It's so brave though. I really like because it is infuriating right when I love You know, I like music a lot, right? Sure, and if you disagree with me, it does upset me and I do think you're doing some sort of thing for attention For good to girls or something. To girls. If it's for girls, it's not. Yeah, girls are like, oh my god, he doesn't like Yeezus.

If it's for girls, it's not working. He's crazy. He's different. You're doing it. No. My audience has like almost. Well, what upsets me is this. My audience is like 80% men.

Really? Yeah. Lucky? 80%. I think us too. It's a terrible feeling isn't it? I'm neutral on it. You're neutral on it? No, it doesn't feel good. No, I'm neutral on it. No, you want to 50-50. Why?

You don't want to just like what like a mail online internet population? I mean, I feel like it has upsides of maybe if they're watching me they're not watching Andrew Tate What? You think you think that that's a thing? Sure, maybe they like music and like the coolest guy of all time now Andrew Andrew Andrew Tate hates music. He does like music. He hates music. Ah, yes. He's got so Well, the thing is like people people people have that mindset hate art general. Okay, so's got so... See, that's what he's doing. Well, the thing is, people of that mindset hate art generally. Okay, so you have a community, right?

Sure, to an extent. You have millions of people that are part of your community. I wouldn't call it a community. Well, no, you're constantly interacting with them. You're asking them questions. Yeah, but that doesn't make it a community. You're asking them questions. You say, what's the best album of the 2000s?

And then someone says Kid A and you go, meh. Across several million people. questions you say what's the best what's the best album of the 2000s like across across this kid and you go across several million people you'd be wrong across several million people cohesion but when I watched that one you said yeah you could say that but you'd be wrong in rainbows is better but but does it matter in rainbows is better than kiddo yeah does, does it matter? No, no, none of it matters but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna put out my opinion, but what is the like I guess what what's the cultural merit of of Assigning a new is it you like who like what is it met like who cares?

I guess I guess if you want me to explain the context that all of that is great content It's yeah, sure. It's really engaging and I can't what it's a keep clicking and keep you know say getting angry alone But what but like why can't you just be like they're rude there, but they're really good. Uh-huh. Yeah Why can't I just say they're all great? But why does a kid A have to be worse than a okay, well those, yeah, that's a really good one. Those three are really good. If you're actually going to be critical for a living, you have to sort of like break some eggs. But don't you think that it's kind of like a, I don't know. See here's the thing,

you're asking sort of like what is the merit, what is the point? Is it criticism, or is it? You're asking what is the merit and what is the point of what I'm doing. Wouldn't there be even less? What's the project? What's the objective? Wouldn't there be even less of a point to a critic

that just says everything is good? No, not everything's good, but like. Well, yeah, not everything is good. So the thing is, if you just said everything was good all the time, why would anybody watch? I'm saying that if two albums are both really good, does it matter if and also does it matter if OK Computer is they're all really good albums, it's a really good band.

Yeah. I mean I can't get enough of this crap. To say that like I enjoy in Rainbows more than Amnesiac isn't to say that I don't enjoy Amnesiac or that it isn't a good album. I'm just stating a preference. No, but yeah, you're fan, but it is for your community. They want to see what Melon's going to say about this crap. Sure. It's a game kind of more.

Yeah. It doesn't. I mean, it's supposed to be fun on some level. It's not fun for me. Because the thing is like with a band like Radiatorhead that has as versatile discography as they do and even Kanye like to make such a list everybody's gonna have a wildly different opinion. I mean there's a right answer. What's the right answer? Whatever I mean what's the right answer? Yeah. Yeah it's what the thing I think. What is the thing that you

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were I don't know what the thing is to you I would just okay look at how schizophrenic these notes were this is how angry you're making me okay there's like different pieces of paper it's there's no logical flow okay should I actually you're talking away huh you're just talking about my classic Abbey Road review just I was in a standalone review of the album. Are you talking about a ranking that I did or just the Abbey Road review? What do you mean, you ranked the songs in Abbey Road?

Nevermind, you're just talking about my straight up Abbey Road review. You had an issue with it? You ranked The Beatles? No, stop talking. Have you ranked The Beatles? Listen. What?

I listened to you talk about Abbey Road, right? Just the review. Which is A, you've got the, it's so brave. I mean, it's crazy. You're a sick man. OK, listen. For context, for everybody who is watching this, for everybody who's watching this who is sane,

I did a classic Abbey Road review. These people are loco right now. Classic Abbeybey Road review that is very positive and very glowing because I do think it is my favorite Beatles album so I'm perplexed as to what you hate about it what do you hate about me loving that album? because you're the way you're talking you're making it sound like I sh** on the record and talk like it was the worst thing ever you didn't sh** on it but the way you talked about it really pisses me off. How did I talk about it that you got pissed off about? You said that the Golden Slumbers medley was art pop.

Yeah that's like a very- That's not a thing. Do you understand that this is where- That's a very well established opinion. No you're like I'm the love shock baby! It's not art pop. It didn't exist. Nothing existed. They made- It's not art pop, it didn't exist, nothing existed, they made, they made pop music. B-52s are not art pop, it's a new wave.

Oh my god, oh you put on a f***ing big suit. F***ing what? Now I understand why you're pissed. It's, in terms of a term, it's like, it's offensive to my ear. Why? Because it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a contemporary term, it's like it's offensive to my ear. Why? Because it's a... Art pop is a thing. It's a contemporary term. It's like saying...

Well, wait, it's... The Golden Slumbers medley was Twitter. I feel like... It's just like it's not... It's an inappropriate like phrasing for it. Because it is... I mean, the thing is like... It's the Rosetta Stone, right?

For the time period, that record was progressive and artsy by pop standards. I mean, it's sort of like set the standard. It's not art pop, though. Because that's like a lesbian in the 1990s in college. I understand. I understand. It's not offensive to the Beatles.

I understand the era of music that that term is usually attached to, because obviously it's sort of snowballed into something bigger that was like a larger musical movement. We're talking about a band and we're talking about artists. The Golden Slumbers mainly was swing and revival. Who were ahead of the curve. It was cloud rap. Yeah. We're talking about artists who were ahead of the curve and like-

Who wasn't ahead of the curve? They invented pop music. This is- They did not invent pop music yes they did no they did not they invent and you did not pop you play guitar pop music precedes the Beatles I know that yeah yeah but you understand like everything comes there it's the it's it's the sort of things do which is everything why I and other the Beatles obviously came from other places right sure and there's a sort of things do which is everything why I and other the Beatles obviously came from other places, right? Sure, and there's a lot of people who? rightly acknowledge the fact that like, you know

I want you she's so heavy the last passengers that that's like one thing That's like one of the first metal riffs if not the first like a metal riff. Yeah, you know So but the thing is like how do they know you can you could you could call that like? Metal in a sense while also acknowledging that like metal as we know it came later What do you mean? That's not that's not to say that's not to say that riff is That's not to say the Beatles are a metal band because they did that riff It's just it for that or that it was grating on my ear to say the Golden Slumbers Which is the probably the best song

It's probably the best moment in music to me But you're just mad that I use the term art pop because it's like offensive because it's it's the it's the most important thing And I just okay Let's go back through my look at it. I'd like a this is like a manifest early earlier You accused me of okay grating on purpose. I think you're faking being offended. At minute 11, you're reviewing Oh Darling, right? Which is a fucking, the emotion, the fucking,

like how fucking pissed he's singing at the end. How much pain he's in. Okay. Right? He's in love on that song. You said that you wish that Paul Paul can sing more regular yeah like what gives you the right come on just don't say but what gives you the confidence to say I'm honestly I'm because because I look because I look at Paul McCartney and I don't and I don't

see when you tell me you know I mean I get that you think that doesn't sound sick it's it's like John Fogarty singing about being from down by the bayou he's not okay have you heard the BG song Massachusetts they've never been to Massachusetts they'd never they they didn't know what Massachusetts was I didn't know what Massachusetts was. They didn't know what it was? It sounded good there. Oh, okay. And it does sound good there.

So what do you mean that when you told me? Do you understand that they consumed American rock and roll? No, I get that. And they lived in a place no one even knew what Liverpool was, right? Until they came here. And then they gave it back to us. And as a cultural exchange it's incredible it's it's like I you can't possibly say I wish Paul would sing more regular here yeah in and he has the

capacity to you know we've heard Hey Jude what you wanted to sound that's just don't say he's just singing straighter on that song. Pete cut that for him. It's just you wanted it to sound more like hey Jude. I didn't want to say I just wanted him to sing a bit straighter on that one. Let it be the Beatles. It's just it's there it's been there already.

You don't have to say I would but it's why? Like what's the point of it? It stresses me out. I'm stressed again just thinking about it. I am. And I know, like listen, if you're talking about that album, the kid sees it, and you're, that's great. Right? But like, you're so brave and crazy, and you're sick in the head for like, for even saying I wish Paul would do a little bit more of a regular voice In the in this moment, I think like I think we should be allowed to be

critical of everything like as greatest songwriter of all time Paul McCartney the greatest songwriter of all time. Yes point blank period Bob's Bob Dylan. No competition? Bob Dylan and Paul McCarty, yeah. In my opinion. I mean like... You're wrong. There's the answer. Okay, Maxwell Silverhammer, you said that it was like disturbing. Yeah, but that's what's funny about it. But you understand that the words, they're just saying any word. No, no, no. Did you see... The Beatles do have songs're actually consciously did say just any words and on purpose just because there Were people who were reading too much into their music. So how are you disturbed by it's a baby song

It's the we've we all know it What are you talking you said that this qualified that it qualifies everyone thinks that John is the is the weird artist and Paul is Paul is the normal one but he writes this we this disturbed most disturbing song yeah it's but that's what's fun that's a but you're confused first of all that was the emotion I'm citing this is like this is a positive interesting characteristic of the record I'm exhausted right now. I've been up all night. Okay, when he says, and I will sing you a lullaby, right? And then the next word is what?

Boar! The big golden slumber crescendo. Okay, you take issue with the fact that it wasn't a lullaby that comes next. No I didn't. I took issue with it not, no I did not. You said that a lullaby should come next. No, I didn't. I took issue with it not, no I did not. You said that a lullaby should come next. No, I did not.

It's right, you're driving me nuts, sir. Now you're just making stuff up, I did not say that. Check it, can someone check it? I did not say. I swear to God. I did not say I'm mad. That's what I punched. I did not say. You didn't say you were mad, you were like, you would be expecting a lullaby here.

I did not say that. I did not say. I think you did say that. That I was upset or that there was anything bad about not a lullaby following that part I know for a fact I put out a lot of content and I can't remember every second of it But I guarantee I did not say that there was an issue with not a lullaby following that I'm pretty sure a lullaby with your listen what you're gonna have to do is I think I'm right Well, you're gonna have to do is I feel like in the clip of me. So I don't want to

You know, you know really would have been good here? A lullaby. With Golden Slumbers, we get this very big dramatic showing of strings and horns and pianos for a lullaby that is described in the lyrics but never really quite happens. I mean, it is gorgeous and it is powerful, but I would be pretty angry if Paul McCartney went through all of this trouble to set up a lullaby only for him to kind of lead into boy You're gonna carry that weight Now what it is is that just music means so much to people and that's why they respond so much that you make up

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You're probably the biggest hip hop critic nowadays. Like by virtue of just kind of reviewing it. Numbers wise, yeah. Does it feel weird sometimes as a white guy to be talking about it, to be talking about a black, like something that's predominantly black. Sure. How do you, how do you like, uh, manage that in terms of your reviews? I mean, I feel like one of the ways I try to manage it,

which I think is like kind of a best practice for me is like, um, it which I think is like kind of a best practice for me is like You want to sort of like pay attention very careful attention and sort of like take care to sort of make note of and most importantly take seriously like the substance of the subject matter, you know, and especially like, you know consider that like People are describing experiences that I don't personally have a super, you know intimate familiarity with But you know simultaneously You don't want to treat rap music like it's a special case because I feel like that's kind of patronizing your music critic, right? Well, I mean the thing is like, you know by that same token while I say that I also don't have intimate personal experience

Of what it is to be a woman. I'll give you an example of what I'm trying to get at. In the NBA, right, punditry has in the last 10 years kind of become a lot about advanced statistics and metrics. And I think maybe perhaps is a result of a predominantly white pundit class talking about something that's predominantly black. Sports is a bit more of a concrete subject matter than whether or not a song is good. But the question is that like, I don't know, I really saw a lot of your tweets during this

Drake and Kendrick thing last year. And your analysis did tend to be like, you know, in the third round, they switched up the flow three times, and you know, like you were giving kind of more of the stats. A little bit, yeah. Did you find it entertaining? Yeah.

It just, what is they, in your opinion? I mean, as a person that's commented on this. Yeah. You want me to start answering now? Yeah. Okay. Sorry, we'll cut that down. No, no, no, it's fine. I think from my personal outsider perspective, having, you know, listened to and reviewed a great deal of Kendrick's music and looking at that song, like, I feel like there is sort of a weakness there or a bit of confusion there when you're talking about the song that you're observing when you're kind of looking at it

outside of the greater context of the beef between him and Drake. The thing is, if you look at it specifically in that vacuum, I feel like the they is super clear in terms of like in terms of in terms of it literally like him and his and his entourage and He would his friends are like and not only people who sort of engage in the sort of behavior that Kendrick paints him as You know engaging in on the song but also In his own way Kendrick is trying to paint Drake in a way as, and again, this is not like me saying whether or not this is true. This is me saying like,

this is what Kendrick, I'm saying this is what Kendrick is insinuating in the song. He's trying to paint Drake as culturally being outside of the black experience in a way. Kamala Harris was told that she's not black and there was an outrage. Sure. I'm just, it's confusing to me why there wasn't a similar response by, I mean, people like yourself are like, why, why is that what happened with Drake was treated differently? Like whether or not I was outraged that that was the case. It's kind of messed up, right?

I mean, I think that those were happening in two far different contexts. Well, I mean, like Drake's like black, right? I mean, yeah, I can't deny that. So I mean, it's, but it's, okay. Look, here's the thing. I'm not saying it's not faulty messaging like, you know, objectively speaking Objectively speaking like Drake's dad is black Drake is black, you know

I think uh, and Again, I'm just insinuating here based on what I hear on the song I feel like for Kendrick what he was trying to get across on the track, because when you literally talk about sort of like who he collabs with and where he goes to sort of like make these kind of cultural connections to sort of like align himself with certain segments of hip hop music.

I think he's sort of displaying that as more of a cultural blackness. I think it's a lot of guys our age that are white guys that were like really getting into it and it felt a little weird. I think we just had a nice time when Drake was here. We've had a lot of nice times while Drake was playing. And now we have to know what a tariff is and stuff because Drake went away. Please, wherever you are, Australia, where is he now? I think he's in America again Listen in Canada, I guess I just miss him. Oh, you know, he's still around No, everyone's everyone's laughing at him for being a nonce as well

So you can't you can't be into Drake because other people aren't how do you deal with people being mad at you? I'm you I'm doing it right now to you and you're a good guy. You're a sicko, but you're a good guy. No, I mean, like I just disagree with what you're saying, but I have to imagine, I mean, people sued you? Yeah. I mean, I gotta say, hats off. Like the most famous male pop star of the last 15 years DM'd you and said that he thinks you're a zero, or like a light one. I mean, it's crazy. Drake is the most famous male pop star

and you got rent free in there. And you're just some, you're in front of a guy from Connecticut. Yeah, I'm still rent free in there. Wait, that upset you? Your response there, that's a genuine response. No, no, I'm saying I still think it's likely that he thinks about me.

You think he's thinking about you still? I he's thinking about me. What why is that? I've seen evidence that he still thinks about me what? So what is your question I'm asking you like how do you deal with people getting pissed at you I Don't know really I mean I feel like it's just it's just been happening so I guess here's the thing like it's been happening so consistency for so consistently for so long and most of the criticisms are like I feel like I've just been reading the same three to five hate comments like over and over and over for the past 12 years you know so it's like after a while I just become

they get mad about just the same you already know you know just like oh you reviewed that album I'm just mad at you for I mean it's the comments you've already seen could tell Paul McCartney what he could do 80 years ago yeah but but what do they say that you you you're you shouldn't have rated this that or it's like you don't know no it is why because not an hate comment. No it is. Why? Because they disagree with your opinion on the song? No, like you're a fucking idiot, you've created this wrong. Well what is hate?

I don't know, I've got people tell me that. There are people claiming like you didn't even listen to the album or you don't know shit about music, you're a fucking fat ass melon head, white loser, fucking slur this, slur that, something else. What slur is there for you? What slur? Like everybody also sort of like on Twitter now. Italian slurs?

Not even that. What slur is there for you? Like homophobic slurs. Oh yeah yeah. People on Twitter are sort of like, everybody's using retard now. Everybody's just like saying everyone's using retard. It's the internet. It's hell on earth.

No, it is hell on earth. But it's getting worse. Yeah, I know. Elon did free speech and it's too scary, I think. I think we found that out. It's sodomy. It's not even free speech. They just wanted to be free to talk like fourth graders on the internet. That's all it is. It's not about a free

expression of ideas. I think you're right. It's about a freedom to be a fourth grader on the internet. Yeah, I think you are right. In fourth grade a lot of people were like that the Holocaust never happened. Yeah. No, but I'm saying you're on 4chan. Don't act like the internet's... You've seen crazy stuff on the internet. By the time that I was on 4chan, I had already read Howard Zinn, Noam Chomsky, and been introduced to... Can we cut that for him? You can't say that you read the people...

You can't say that you had read Noam Chomsky before you joined 4chan. I did. But that's... you don't... come on bro. So the thing is like by the time I came... You're stressing me out right now. By the time I came across a lot of the ideological stuff that was on there, I was already like, oh, this is psychotic, you know Because you read the people's history of no, come on. Yeah, cuz you read two things

Well, no, it wasn't just two things when I'm saying like you've seen That's what I'm saying, I'm saying you've been exposed. Okay. Well first off Let's like let's like not disregard Howard Zinn's people's history as not the essential tome on imperialism that it is. I know. I've read it. And once you understand that, and once you understand that

and have read it, there's a lot of, I think, fear-based white identity politics that you're automatically inoculated against, because you actually see the presence. Oh, you're talking of like automatically inoculated against because you actually see like oh you're talking about I'm sorry. I'm talking about Holocaust denial and also imperialism And I feel like there's a lot of that that you understand is bullshit And you're confronted with it when you sort of understand the broader history of imperialism across the world Yeah, but I've never actually been on 4chan much, but is this scary stuff like that? I would say it's it's probably

I Think because it's been like sold off and a lot of like the worst places where you kind of get a hold of those Ideologies it's kind of been pulled out of Pandora's box and you can kind of see that stuff on Twitter now I feel like you don't need to go to 4chan anymore to see that well That's that's the point I was making is like we're talking about we're talking about numerous airs here the time period in which I was there there was more of a variety of different people of ideologies because There weren't a whole lot of places to talk about a lot of the stuff that people are talking about on 4chan

It was a board it was a bit was many different boards But the thing is like like for example on the music board because I was mostly on the music board whenever somebody would be coming whenever somebody radiohead whenever somebody would come in and say something ridiculous or racist or sort of like offensive people just be like go back to the politics board to the politics board like mostly the politics board was kind of just like relegated to the psychos but then once there became more variety of places to discuss music, anime, so on and so forth being on reddit or wherever it became less essential to go talk about it there yeah so like a lot of the psychopaths just started like running the asylum and

also it got sold off and so on and so forth and who bought it I forget even more racist guy I think I think maybe a less racist guy I can't I know there was a documentary about it where it's like a little guy in a bed whoa did you guys see that the 4chan documentary what was that little guy in the bed all about you right you saw that I forgot. You're a Yuki Nishimura, Japanese internet guy. Bought it. Sick, dude. Have you listened to his stuff? Can't say I have.

Have you made music? Sure. You've been in bands? Yeah. You're a bassist, right? Yeah. Do you have any songs that I can listen to? No. Come on, dude.

No. Why don't you get a little taste of your own medicine? Let me just... Just let me... I'm not gonna be mean about it. Okay. I thought you were about to give me a million dollars. No, no, no. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Chapstick. Yeah.

It dries out your lips more. No, it doesn't. No, you gotta use Aquafor. Oh, okay. We'll go to the CVS after this. All right Well, I want to hear I'll play it I'll give you a song of mine We'll both put on headphones and then honest reviews. Okay, are you down? Yeah for real though. Yeah, okay Whoa

This is sclugey for me? Sure. Are your friends and family in for this? A couple people, like friends that I've sent it to on my phone. But the closest friends? Yeah. So is it. Who the fuck is Jesus Christ?

So you're a music critic? Yeah. Can I ask you a serious question though? Yeah. Have you ever farted into Shazam and discovered your new favorite U2 song? No, I have not. You shouldn't.

That's how I discovered that song was up. One, two, three, 14. Yeah, okay. Disgusting. What do you think is better, rock or rap? Just answer it, dude. Let's settle the goat. It's because you would stop laughing if you had the same birthday. It's disgusting.

Alright, you're going to hate this. I think this is like really shitty. What? Why? You're not going to like it. No, you know what you're doing? You're saying something because it's really scary to put yourself out there like that. Just put on the headphones.

And then think about it. I got it. I got it. Are you ready? Are you ready? Yeah. These are your headphones, were you? Yeah. You should have better headphones.

I mean, I know they're cheap. Okay, are you ready? You're probably, yeah. Are you ready? You have $10 million? Yeah, about. That's what you do. Yeah.

You make mad money probably. All right, let's go. Okay. Whistle. Uh-huh. Trump. Trump, yeah. It's a little political thing. He's done after this. I'm not gonna do that. You distract you distract if you want to read it that way distract on Trump Your district You're dis- Uh Uh Uh Uh Uh

Uh Uh It's like a short thing It's not short, that seemed like it took forever It's just like two minutes You really did that For yourself By myself, yeah Oh, okay. You really did that, you really did that for yourself. By myself, yeah.

But if you wanna take down Trump, you gotta release this crap. I don't wanna release it, it's crap. He's been accused 10 times. What, it's the style? Okay, I'll give you my honest reaction. Making that for yourself is, that's a very interesting thing to think about.

Why? I don't know, do you feel like you're getting your rocks off a little bit? You're turning off TV? I guess I just wanted to see if I could do it. If you could do a diss track on Trump? Well, just record a song. Oh, is that your only song you've ever done? No.

Oh, so why did you say you want to see if you could record a song? Oh I haven't recorded a song that sounded quite like that. Oh yeah it sounds a lot like it's like yeah like like 90s bit of a post-punky talk yeah yeah like when they college radio yeah my United States of whatever kind of thing That's a banger. Yeah, yeah, siffl and all of that, but I'm just thinking like to You were like, you know It's really just it's a song about Donald Trump for yourself

It's about like it's a fascinating thing to think about weird right wingers that I see on the internet I think it was pretty much about Donald. Yeah, but it's it's like a reference. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah It's just an interesting thing. Yeah But you but it's you're never gonna drop it right? I don't think so. Are you gonna keep practicing trying new? Distracts on Trump until you're ready. No, I'm probably just going to keep practicing just writing and recording different types of songs. I think you're a good guy. I think kids find out a lot of cool stuff because of you.

Okay. Thank you, bro. Bye. So you live inside the eye of your mind. Don't you know you might find a better place to play You said that you'd never be But all the things that you see Better fade away I'm gonna lay it away

So I start a revolution I'm gonna bear the burden Because the saddest things that had went to my hand Step outside the summertime