The Adam Friedland Show (Cumtown) - CLAVICULAR Talks Female Psychology, Drug Habit, Infamy

Episode Date: February 17, 2026

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And you'll mug, so you'll be able to sort of get out of it. Welcome to a very special episode of the Adam Friedland show. It's Adam Friedland. We're going to get right into it. My guest this week is controversial kick streamer and looks maxer, clavicular. That guy. Clavicular has enjoyed quite the meteoric rise over the last six months, thanks in part to a series of live stream controversies

that have put him on the social radar of anyone and everyone that has a social media feed. I wonder if our parents... You think our parents are? My mom. Your mom, no. Because your mom's horny for them. Bro.

Bro, too. Okay, now I'm no fan of the things this young man has said about various groups like women, the LGBT community, and especially Jews. What has he? I didn't know that. You didn't know that? Yeah. What is he said about it? It's not, again, we'll talk about it later.

But the bad ones, right? The bad Jews. But I think it's important to view clavicular as a symptom. A symptom of something much deeper, something much darker, perhaps. A cultural virus. that has plagued the country, the world perhaps, for the last decade. And I'm talking about, of course,

I don't have to say it, but none other than video game player and pickup artist extraordinaire, Hassan Piker. Our younger generation has grown up idealizing this man who uses a preter natural fashion sense as a tool for sexual persuasion. How many times have you seen young men at the store, or perhaps the mall, wearing this exact outfit,

attempting to mold themselves into a man who's, quite frankly, an anti-Semite? Anti-Semite of the year, mind you. A man who views women as workers. A man who livestreams everything he does makes it about politics. A man who's not even as big as his dog. Folks, I'm hoping this interview will be a wake-up call for everyone who's watching it. To stop supporting the monster, Hussein Pekar. So please enjoy my interview.

With clifucking hell. Jesus Christ, but you can use a phone. Why is he using that? Anyway, so please enjoy my interview with clavicular, everyone. It's going to be a good one. I think it'll be a good one. Ladies and gentlemen, the number one streamer on the kick. Give it up for Clavicular, everyone.

Nice for having you. How are you doing? You're in New York City? Doing great, man. You're enjoying it? It's a little cold for me, but... Honestly, like, I'm 38 years old, and I'm, like, learning about looks maxing and stuff, like

I do a lot of research for the show, and I feel like I just feel like a boomer. I feel like so foreign from the youth of today. I feel like I'm learning like a new fucking language or something like that. Right, yeah. All of the terms are quite comical, but you know,

you're not in your own world with not knowing about this whole looksmax thing. It's kind of a new thing that's popped up over the past few months, I would say, to the mainstream. Right. But it existed in forums for years, right? Right, yeah, no, it's been around for years. And it had sort of an explosion on TikTok back in 2023 where, like, the kids knew about it.

But now it's kind of pushing to X and, like, you know, people in your demographic a little bit. What does that mean? Like old cells. What is my demographic? Old cells? Yeah. What does that mean? A telebacy?

Just like. I get pussy. Shut the fuck on. I get mad pussy. No, it's not like. That's just one of the terms. So we use, like, well. My sexual market value is just through the roof.

We'll just add sell to the end of a descriptor. Really? Just old sell. So what is your role in this ecosystem? How would you define your, the place that you exist within that? I would say I'm kind of the cultural leader. Yeah. In the Lux Maxing world, you know, because not a lot of people are super well versed.

You know, they're not willing to, you know, go the distance to whatever it takes kind of to ascend through any and every mechanism out there available to them. So I was like, okay, let's, you know, take this to its logical conclusion, you know, with biohacking, with, you know, whatever, you know, form of ascension necessary. Yeah. Are there other, like, are there ops that are trying to come for that number one spot? Do you have to defend the throne? Not that I know about.

Are you the hottest guy? Is that what you're saying? No, no, no. Well, that's just, uh... You just know the most about Luke's back. Right. Well, that's the goal of the game, right? is to mog other people, right?

Tell the boomer cells about what that is. So, mauging is essentially just outperforming them, looking better than them, and just sort of dominating, right? It came from something called AMOG, which was alpha male of the group, then it was shorted to just MOG. So that's kind of like the term we use when someone is just outshining another person

in like a photo or whatever. So if that comes along and happens to me, right? That's just kind of like almost biblical. Have you been Mogged by another man? I've definitely been mocked, yeah. Yeah, yeah. How does it feel to get mocked?

It's not a great feeling. It feels bad, yeah. It's just that a guy's more beautiful than you? It could be through, you know, a whole plethora of different things. Maybe they have more money than you. They could money mug you. They could status mug you. Okay.

Do you only chill with handsome guys? No, I know. I chill with a... You have Normie friends. I do have Normie friends. What's your perception of those guys that they're like, you feel bad for them? I try not to think about it too much. It's kind of just like a, the only thing that I'm kind of talking about when I discuss,

you know, looks maxing and the importance of looks is, you know, you could try your hardest not to acknowledge someone being ugly or good looking, but at the end of the day, it's a subconscious bias that everyone's going to have and it's unavoidable, right? So just because I know the exact facial ratios that make someone good looking or not good looking, it doesn't mean that everyone doesn't instinctually know them already. It makes sense to me the basic premise that society rewards attractiveness, right? Yes, correct. It's kind of obvious, right?

Uh-huh. Yeah. Do you think it's like a revolutionary concept because it's like a, you're just saying something that's always existed, right? Right, yeah, no, I think it's quite logical. And that's why I would say that most of my messaging is so well-rescently. is because it seems to me so beyond obvious that you're better looking, you have better treatment in almost every aspect of life. And this is something that's also quite well researched, right? You know, you look at prison sentencing for good looking people versus people who are less attractive.

It's quite clear that it's a huge advantage to have in life. You think you beat the case recently because you're a haughty? No comment. No comment. But did you like, you pumped before you walked into the courthouse? No, I didn't pump. Did you wear something slutty so the judge could see? No, it's fixing my hair in that one mirror.

Like the curved one, yeah, in the courthouse. I would throw your ass away for life personally. Yeah. To ugly jail. I said you to ugly jail. I'm just playing, dog. Wait, so you came with your voice. That's your camera guy?

Temporary. Why? You're about to fire him? No, no, no. Why? What's your name? Come up and say what up to the crowd, or to the audience. Yeah.

Yorz. Yeah, yeah, say, we come up and say hi. Yeah, say name, age, body count. Yeah. Ha ha. Yeah. You don't have a body count? I'm yours.

So scared you number. 21. And body count like lower double digits. Lower double digits, like 10. I don't really count. Lower double digits is a bizarre way to say that. Well, no digits implies like 50s. That's too high.

Yeah. OK, so what was your body count? I don't count. Do you guys ever run these two men together? together or no? Not yet, not yet. Not yet. One day, like a devil's three way with you and your, you're in the watch on right now.

Okay, sorry. Let's get back into you. I want to, because it's been like really fucking fast your assent, right? That's right. Mr. B says you're about to be the number one guy I saw a clip. Yes, he said that if he were to invest in any content creator who's up and coming, it would be myself. I'm not really too sure what that means, but. It sounds like a little bit sinister, a little bit.

Maybe a little bit, but... Dude, that guy kind of tortures poor people, don't you think? I don't know too much about that. That's been speculated. No, I think people just kind of call into questions, stuff about some of the budgeting, maybe not being the greatest. What does that mean?

So they're doing, like, the team water thing, right, in Africa where it's like a charity project. Yeah, for Africa. The wells, and people were like, is $40 million really necessary? And, you know, personally, I have no idea how any of the ship works. It costs for the wells? And, well, that's what people are speculating.

I have no fucking idea, quite honestly. I don't think anyone has any idea how much it costs to, you know, run a water project in Africa. The interesting thing that you talk about is kind of like how economy that you were presented with at your age, the world that you were promised wasn't a better future, right? Like, how would you explain that? So essentially what I always say is, you know, looks maxing is just another version of self-improvement. Yeah. And I'm simply stating that in terms of ascending your sexual market value, which means, you know, how valued you are by women, how easily you're going to succeed in the dating market.

It's a lot easier to improve your looks and improve your SMV by that metric than it is to overcome, you know, certain disparities with your finances or improving your status. because what needs to be accomplished is so much greater than people could ever imagine to have equal results, right? So it's like, let's say you ascend making even seven figures a year. It sounds like an incredible number, and it is.

When you're a kid, you're like, that's the most money ever. True, real, I mean, especially when you live in big cities. So that's the thing, right? People get to these like insanely good milestones, and then they're expecting these results and they're not coming. Like getting pussy, you mean?

Well, the fact that, the matter is, looks are valued a lot greater in these big cities with how shit the economy is that's really not getting you as far as you think, you know? You could just also just move to New York because there's like so many gay guys that there's just more straight women than straight guys. It's a hack. Or you could just looks, Max. Have you seen Seinfeld before?

No. George Cassanza was like on dates with 11s. And it's real. It's real. That's actually what happens. I don't know. For any of the pop culture references, we are 20 years apart. No.

You don't know any shows or movies. Not like anything before like 2015. So like Transformers like four? No. What's your favorite movie? Favorite movie? Oh, that's a tell one. Or it's jester.

Movies are jester. Movies are kind of jester and sports. Sports is, oh yeah, you hate sports. Yeah, movies I could, you know, put up with every once in a while. What's the best one? Let me think. The most enjoyable movie. Dude, you got to not go back to my eyes.

just come chill with me and the lads tonight and just watch movies have you see moneyball I have that's a good movie so us that movie so us have you see it there I love it yeah I like the the movie limitless you kind of are a limitless style guy yeah yeah yeah is that kind of what having like a stack is is is like being limited Justin Timberlake or that's kind of guy in limitless Bradley Cooper yeah yeah so it kind of feels that way when you first are taking stimulants yeah a little bit For me, I just write long e-mails to people that I haven't talked to in four years.

So you grew up outside the city, Hoboken? Yes. And you've been staying with your family? Yeah. Are you close with them? Yeah, I talk to them a fair bit, just online usually. I haven't seen them in person for about a year before this week. You talked to them online? What do you mean?

Like, just over the phone. Oh, that's on the phone. That's not online. Yeah. You have a sister, younger sister. I do. Are you close with her? Yeah. Yeah.

How many years apart? She is turning 16. So, four years. Yeah. Me and my sister are four years. Okay. Yep. Yeah.

We got to fucking protect our sisters. Indeed. Yeah. My sister's, my dog. We're like very close. You like Springsteen? Uh, who? Bruce Springsteen.

He's like New Jersey. He's like a rocker. Dude, I got to put him on his songs. I got him on movies. We got movie backs and song max at some point, the two of us, as dogs. Your parents are all. also they're bodybuilders is that right back in the day before I was born you know they were competitive like Mr. Olympia no not that like that that's the top of the

top competition yeah you know just local stuff you know yeah Jersey my mom yeah your marvelous yeah not my dad you're a jacked mom yeah before I was born whoa I wonder what it would be like to have a jacked mom I don't know you don't know well it was your mom was your mom was Oh, before you were born. Yeah, yeah. You had hot parents? That's kind of a weird question. I had a hot mom and a disgusting father.

Yeah. I'm fine saying it. I did the measurements on their eyes and stuff. Okay. Yeah. Do your dad teach you how to work out? No, I kind of just figured it out on my own, because we had a home gym that I would just dick around in when I was growing up,

and then I got my first gym membership. and kind of would just watch, like, you know, various... Rich Piano? Rich, yes. Yeah, he was a psycho. I loved him. Yeah, I loved Rich, too. Unfortunately, 99% of the shit he was doing is the complete opposite of what the literature suggests.

I can't believe it. I can't believe that he was doing the rest in peace, you fucking God. He was a great guy, but his mentality... Did he die from steroids or... Can you die from steroids? steroids? It definitely had a role in his passing, unfortunately, but you can die from steroids, yes. It's putting a strain on your organs, you know. So when I talk about steroids and testosterone usage, it's, you know, put into the same category as these bodybuilding guys who are dying,

you know, prematurely, but it's not a binary thing, right? It's extremely dose dependent. So when you're talking about TRT or slightly above that, that's not comprehensive. with bodybuilders who are using about 10 or 20 times the dosage your dick gets smaller or your balls your balls your balls your balls gets smaller but it kind of makes your dick look bigger probably correct yeah yeah yeah proportionality yeah it's probably true yeah I should do dude I have long balls I had what nothing uh would you swipe your V like 11 probably no 16 16 all right that's a responsible age yeah I thought so yeah so you got into looks maxing prior to

to you're getting chafed. Yeah. Was that a motivation, those like message boards? That was, but, you know, that wasn't necessarily the only thing I was thinking about at the time. It was more just like an objective, this will improve the quality of my life mentality. Yeah. And that was just one of the results of that, I guess you could say. When did you start? Like 14. Yeah. Okay. Were you getting COVID lockdown? I was. Yeah. Yeah. Did it start? Yeah. Well, that was when I was a, eighth grade and freshman. This fucking sucks.

You had to be at home with your parents a little time? Yeah. If I couldn't see my friends every day, it would just fucking suck. Yeah. So you got, like, you were online a lot during lockdown. Yeah, yeah. I was definitely on the internet probably 14 hours a day. Yeah.

Yep. Video games, whatever. We don't talk about it enough, like culturally, about how that sucked for kids. Yeah. I don't really think it was that bad for most people. I'm not going to lie. Especially this generation. I think a lot of people just got to sit on their Xbox all day,

not have to do any schoolwork. I don't really think that anyone was too upset by the whole process. But it probably, like, made it harder, like, to be, like, socialized, right? Well, I wasn't doing that anyway. Were you a loader growing up? Yeah. Yeah. Your obsession prior to looks back to it was Nerf guns?

Um, no, that was just one. What's that all about? I was one when I was like, you know, eight or nine years old. How many Nerf guys do you have? Not anymore. Come on, dude. You talk about it, dude. We all...

I said it one time, but that's good research. Yeah, I know everything about you, dog. Wait, did you get obsessed with things growing up? Was that, like, an aspect of your person? Yeah, that was kind of the point I was trying to make. Yeah. What other things were you obsessed with? Um, I was pretty obsessed with, like,

GTA 5, I would say. Obviously, fire. I rodded on that for hours a day, like minimum 10 hours every single day during COVID. Yeah. It would just be that kind of stuff, just getting super hyperfixated. Yeah. Random shit. Yeah.

So. I think that's pretty normal. Yeah. Video games for kids. Yeah, I guess. But just only playing one thing for, I have no idea. I play sports games because I'm cool. Okay.

Yeah. FIFA 2K Yeah, I wish I was that cool I don't trust the guy that doesn't like sports Honestly You can't trust a guy that does like sports You can't trust a guy that doesn't It goes on seven dick appointments a week

Do you have seven dick appointments a week? That would suck It's a lonely feeling actually being one of those guys What's that? Nothing Bro, what are you guys? Is your camera guy Do you guys, are you roommates? Yeah? Yeah. Yeah.

Where, Brickle? No, thank God. Where do you live in Miami? Just no comment, but not Brickle. Oh, yeah, I don't want to docks, yeah. I would say that Brickle is probably the worst place that you can possibly live if you're an influencer. Because it's all influencers.

It's all want to be influencers. Yeah, yeah. You want to stop you for a street interview when you're trying to get a coffee in the morning. Yeah, like do one of those things? Yeah, it sucks. Yeah. Yeah.

Would you let your girl get, get a train run. You know, that's what they always say. Right, yeah, for a... For a million dollars. And I'm like, obviously, I would let... I do it for free. Yeah, I guess, like, what's the genesis behind, like, the boards?

Did it grow out of, like, in-cell and Pua shit? Like, was that right? Yeah. Did you interact with that kind of shit first? That was before my time. That was kind of when I was, like, born was when it was, like, all conceptualized on the internet. So the genesis behind it was, like,

if you're involuntary celibate, you're like I'm actually not gonna accept this I'm gonna become a like piece of ass and then I'll get girls That was the idea behind it. It was more so like identifying I think it was more so just I Identifying why people were in sell and then it kind of transitioned to okay how could we fix this now? Have you ever been in love? That's a tough question, you know? It's awesome. It's the ultimate. Honestly, it feels great But it feels crazy. It feels like you're taking crazy pills sometimes. It's like, what are we even doing?

I think you've been in love. I feel like you're capping. That's cap. I can see you on your face. Well, I just said, I don't know. You don't know. So you thought it could be love. I have no idea.

Yeah. Do you think that your career has complicated, like having a stable relationship? Yeah. For sure. You had a girlfriend recently? Yeah. And did it make it tough?

Yeah, certainly. It's kind of not really possible to do what I do just because of the hours. Like, you know, with all this kind of production-oriented stuff where you're kind of running a show, it's a little less time devotion than like the streams. Like the streaming hours are beyond brutal. And the shit that I do on stream isn't something that most girls would want to be a part. Yeah, like hose like fluoride with you. Yeah, from brickle, brickle style hose.

Yeah, trying to do street interviews. The worst of the worst, yeah. Do you ever worry that you'll be like, you'll get so hot that you'll be hotter than your girlfriend? Uh. Because you know it would be hotter than your girlfriend? Why? He's just like, what, you want to date? It's like typically how, how it is in modern dating.

Not for me, not at all, dude. She is an idiot. I can't believe she's, she's gonna wake up one day and be like, What the hell have I been... Well, yeah, I guess there is an aspect of dating that is, like, courtship, right? Like, it's not sexy if someone is pursuing you, right? Like, it's more sexy if you have a crush on someone, you want to, like, you know, like be charming and get them to like you.

Right, and women are just outrageously hypergamous. What does that mean? It means that they're trying to date above their looks level to, ridiculous degree you got to move to New York dude you see some of the gargoyles with it's 11s dude it's a different world that's because there's a lot of people in New York who are like gay gay guys yeah I was gonna say money maxers like you know finance not even as a whole right yeah what what is true about women is they are hypergamous they're dating above their looks level and if they're not if they're

better looking than the guy it can 99% of the time be attributed to either money or status. They're way better. They're way. They're tidies and asses. That's why I don't really understand when people give like, you know, anecdotes on breaking these rules when it's like, yeah, as a whole, we're looking at a society here, not, you know,

where are you able to get whether check who's hotter than you? I don't know. It's just like it kind of a little bit if we're like a little ugly sometimes. No. I think, yeah. Bro, I'm... Well, you're also a millionaire status... Billionaire.

Billionaire. Oh, wait, I did see someone say, is that true? Why did they say billionaire? Who tweeted that? That I'm a billionaire. I don't know. I was like, is that true? Yeah, I'm a billionaire, dude.

But, you know, as a whole, these rules are true, and these are rules that you can kind of... I don't think they're making up fake rules. No, I don't think so. I'm telling you, dude, all my friends' girlfriends are hotter than them. Are you should see Steven's roster? Steven's rostering. Steven, no, not at all. Back me up, Steven.

And that's another common cope is people just don't know how to properly rate individuals attractiveness because they'll score women a lot higher because it's like, yeah. Exactly. But when you actually know the objective measurements, it doesn't become about sexual attraction. It's about mathematics and you're able to be a lot more analytical with, you know, rating people. But what's sexy about math? Well, it's about figuring out attractiveness. I don't need to know the math on a pair of tins, you know?

Well, it's about the faces. And at the end of the day, you see a girl, you think she's hot. It's the same, but we're just trying to identify why. You know, why do you have that subconscious instinct, you know? But why? What makes it face good? What makes a face bad? That's the kind of stuff that I'm just explaining to people.

Because I think girls are hot. Sometimes I get horny for them. There you go. I've been hoarding for them for them my whole life, dude. Even before I can bust, dude, I've been horny for them. Anyway, let's not get carried away. Can you break it down for me? So what are these measurements and like how they, is it crowdsourced?

Is it like the community is kind of determined like PSL? They do a lot of surveys. It's called PSL? Yeah. Okay. So it comes from a bunch of different sources, you know, even something like the midface ratio tracks back to ancient Greece. but a lot of it is, you know, attractiveness surveys, scientists determining what is the most ideal measurement, right?

And you take all these measurements and you come up with a total facial harmony score. And that kind of is able to be gauged on how attractive someone is. There's other things that play a role, like phenotype, you know, and if you were to extend it to just the full body and height and frame, things like that. So there's a lot that goes into it. But it's all very objective. And this is kind of something that's like the community has debated and kind of like... It's not like, that makes it sound like it's just a bunch of autists on forums, kind of debating numbers.

I'm not saying that. I'm just... There's no, like, guru. There's no, like, Ross Jeffries who's teaching his system. No, it's not like one guy's opinion. Yeah. You know, it's all very well researched. Do you know who Ross Jeffries is? I don't.

He's like the first pickup artist guy. When we were 15, my friend Tommy was like, dude, I'm sick or not fucking. I was like, we all are, dude. And he's like, I downloaded these lectures from Kazah of this guy, Ross Jeffries. And I was like, what, like, you're not going to get pussy from lectures. And he fucked at school, like, three days later. Literally, at school. Literally, it was the most amazing thing I've ever seen.

And then he started dating that girl, and he saved her in his phone as bitch. Bitch. It was rude. Quite rude. So just explained to me what, like, the PSL kind of, like, you know, layman's terms, because I'm like not very smart. Well, PSL was three. There's four categories?

Sorry? It's an eight point scale, right? Right. Yeah. So how's that determined? So that's just a different rating system that came from the community. And those are just PSL is three like lookism oriented forums and, you know, like pick up artist type things. So the idea behind it is that there's no, there's no such thing as a 10.

And the highest rating was an 8. Now it's kind of been skewed to match the decile scale, so it's not completely what it was... What's the decile scale? Like out of 10? Out of 10. Oh, yeah. So people will kind of just try to, like, make it translatable when that was never really the intention. There was a reason there was no 9 and 10 included in scale.

Oh, yeah. So that's kind of just what it comes down to. What are the three categories? The three categories of what? You said there were three standards. No, it's just three forums that PSL stands for it. What was that what does it stand for? Pickup artist hate,

slut hate, and lookism. Slot hate? Yeah. What do they say? It's just fuck girls. Well, that's what the forum was called. Yeah, yeah. Who was on the boards?

Was it like kids your age? Now it is. Yeah, now it's often people who are a little bit younger. Yeah. Are there girls on there? Sometimes there will be girls who try to like larp their way into the community. When it's meant to be a male-dominated space, or just like a male space in general

because women have just an exponentially easier time living life and sort of getting away with whatever the fuck they want. So, you know, you give them like this whole looks max avenue now to make things even easier.

It's just, I don't know, mix the playing board. But haven't they, they've been look maxing for a long time, no? Yeah, but not. makeup properly not properly yeah so wait there's correct me if I'm wrong there's normie for guys right low tier mid tier high tier normie yes and then there's

chad turbo Chadd Giga Chad Chad Chad Chad light Chad Chad yeah what are you I don't rate myself we're like giga no yeah sure low key we're like giga yeah yeah people don't understand what it's like for us to be true yeah is your full yeah is your full philosophy that like one can make themselves into Chad if they want no so genetics are going to play a huge role in everything and what's able to be accomplished but you know anyone can improve their their luck to a pretty significant degree if they're willing to do sort of whatever it takes and go with that mentality yeah but obviously your base where you start out is going to determine a lot you know

Yeah. You might look smacks your entire life, do everything properly. But if you're someone who just does not have the genetic base to allow for you to be a Chad or anything, you might be a little disappointed. Yeah. How do you conceive of yourself prior to like going on this transformation? Like what do you think of that kid? No, I'd say it's like a very like linear process to looks max. It's not like a, you know, where you leave your cocoon or whatever, like a butter.

fly or some sort of metamorphosis it's very slow and steady so I don't really think you change your you know view on anything yeah had you not looks max you think you'd still be a hot guy you probably would know uh I would say that you know obviously your genetics are going to play the biggest role in everything but you have it right I don't think that would be as as good looking no not as but like you'd still be a hot guy I don't know but I don't know but Not as hot. It really is hard to pinpoint exactly how much, you know, some of the different interventions would have played a role or, you know,

where I would have got to. I know you said you wanted to get double jaw, but you're not going to do it now. What's double job? I still want to do it, but there's just been a lot of things that have done down. What does it do? Just advances your upper maxilla and your lower mandible. Oh. You just get your mouth as like it, like, turned out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Turkey? You're going to Turkey? Yeah, there's just a lot of complications with travel right now that I'm not going to get into. You're on the no fly list? No, no. Nothing like that.

Yeah, yeah. We got to go to Turkey. Yeah. Yeah. I'll get, I get rhinoplasty. There you go. Actually, I like my nose. I used to not like it.

Okay. I like it. leg breaking? Yeah, that was kind of just like a thought experiment. I think people didn't really understand what I was getting at was the reason I was talking about sort of the limb lengthening stuff was just about ROI. And then I kind of started popping off in another area, which was, you know, social media, status, money. And I realized that the ROI was not, you know, not worth it anymore in terms of like a sending money. SMV, I was able to just leverage something else.

Yeah. How tall are you now? 6-2? Yeah. So that's the goal at the end of the day is to maximize SMV. And if you could do so through other areas, you know, go for it. Yeah. Jestering. But at the end of the day, that's going to be incredibly difficult for someone to have, like, the status ascension I did. Right. Where it makes it comparable. Can I ask you a question? Is it, like, looks maxing a means of, like, avoiding, like, it's called gesturing, but, like, just like,

chatting or like flirting with girls if you're like so hot you don't have to talk to them yeah it certainly makes it easier to be to not talk to girls yeah also just about like when I was like a 16 like just being so afraid if a girl

doesn't want to kiss me back like just like wanting to kiss a chick and like how nauseated you feel at that age and like had that been post me too it probably would have been even scarier right I've never had to... I'm just saying like, does that make it scarier?

Like, does that make dating or like gender relation... Like, relating to women scarier? For guys your age? No? No? Me too? I have never had any issues. I'm not saying you got me too. No, no, you're not listening to me.

I'm saying that it creates a fear. Kids are having less sex now. That is true. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of statistics about this. Young men are... I'm pretty sure two-thirds of... young men 18 through 21 having had sex in six months so it's you know it's quite brutal yeah

that's crazy I guess like let's let's go into like your fame right like it's been rapid correct what has it been like to like to become a famous person very quickly um oh I want to use a term famous just kind of well known maybe infamous even famous famous famous say it dude Same with your chest. No, no. Not yet. Hopefully one day. But.

We'll get more famous. I've kind of been doing social media for a little bit longer than people realized because I just started streaming and, you know, going super mainstream. But I had been posting and doing content for about a year now. So, which I guess in the grand scheme of things for social media, that's still, you know, relatively short in terms of like career longevity. But yeah, so the live streaming started in about November. It was when it kind of took off.

So, yeah, it's been a quick rise from there. But I don't know, I've been adapting. What do you attribute it to? Consistency. And it's just, it's new. It's fresh. It's content. You know, people are doing the same shit all the time on Twitch.

You know, and no one gives a fuck anymore. It's the same streams. It's like video games. It's just boring, right? But. I don't watch it. Exactly, yeah, no. So people are realizing that more and more.

So everyone looks for what's new on the internet. Who's your fan base? Who's the squad? Do you have a name for the stands? No, not really. What are they called? Clav Gang? Yeah.

No real name. Really? Is it, it's a lot of guys? It's a lot of young men? Surprisingly, it's actually pretty split down the middle. Really? Yeah. I would say in terms of like my live stream viewership, it would be like mostly men.

But I have a lot of female fans like, you know. For being hot. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know exactly. Come on, bro. You have an SMV. That's why the bitches want to come on.

Yeah. I don't know. I think it's just from TikTok like would be most of the female audience. Like they're not really interacting with these girls right here. Maybe, yeah. Tech Talk? Probably. Wait, I felt bad for you when I saw that clip of the Orlando Asian kid. That.

What up on me? Yo, you didn't sign my album. Yeah, I got you, man. Yeah, no worries. Yeah, but we've been on your ass since the moment you were streaming since November. Oh, hell yeah, dude. Good stuff. You think we take a stream photo?

Yeah, let's do it, man. I bet. All right, in the cat of three. Three, two, one. Oh, my God. Love you, God. That kid sucked. Oh man, that is so annoying when, like, I'll be just trying to talk to girls and in the bar or whatever.

But, you know, people want to spam a million photos. And it's like, I get it. And I like all the fans. But if you're dropping game on, like, a chick, IRL, like, people will come up and, you know, kind of distract you or whatever. Yeah, a little bit. By accident, but, you know. How can you even call yourself the Orlando Asian maugger? when that guy has clearly

mocked no one his entire life, he's a liar. He should call himself the Orlando Asian liar perhaps. Yeah, I'm not really sure if that was like a clip farmer or whatnot, but yeah, yeah. Yeah, I guess like

when I found out about you, it's like I guess you've had like various controversial moments, but like those have obviously for me as like a fucking middle-aged man, like those are the times that it gets on my like Algo. Right, yeah.

Do you is there a pressure there I guess like to like controversy max? Most content creators try to clip form was clip form like just do stupid shit to go viral But a lot of the times like yeah I won't really be thinking too hard It's just happens yeah yeah the thing is all those clipping accounts that just went viral for that kind of shit None of those words are or anything that I even understand myself like it's just people making a brand of shit because they pay clippers based on viewership so they're just writing dumb shit and like they'll put filters on your face. What words are they saying? Like jester gooning. Juster gooning? It doesn't like really mean anything. Do you feel like

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Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel like you occupy that percentage? No, I don't really like to try to categorize my look. I just want to look better. That's just the message. You aspire to look to do more looks maxing? Yeah, like I don't really think the whole rating thing, for some reason people are goddamn obsessed with figuring out the rating, ask me for a rating.

But dude, just look better. That's all you need to worry about. When you look in the mirror, do you see the imperfections that you want to correct? Yeah, but it's not like one of those body dysmorphia type of, you know, you know, know reactions where I'm just like can't even leave the house because I like you know my mid face ratio is off by like one millimeter type thing and there are people like that good you know for your fine there are people like that I know what what's so hiding out of their chairs right now so I know what's up optimal about my face but I don't really let it occupy

what is suboptimal about your face uh well you know that obviously there's there's plenty of things right geez you're fire dude you don't you don't You're plenty of things. What are you talking about? Well, just being like... What am I then? I should kill myself? What is...

You look suboptimal. You look incredible. Well, almost no one has... You look at Superman or something. Well, almost no one has a completely perfect face according to science, right? So you could find things that are flaws on anyone, but, you know, some of them will be minor, and some people will be extremely deformed. So it's just like...

Yeah. It's a... Yeah, yeah. But I don't really think about it too much on a... Right. So I guess like what do you do day to day like what's your like kind of routine? A lot of it is pharmacology, right? So I like using pharmaceutical. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So what that would kind of look like is I don't like the endocrine system, which is like your natural testosterone production because just in a modern society, there are so many things that are meant to disrupt this process. So my entire mentality is just don't.

try to fight it with doing these stupid carnivore diets and wearing like this cotton clothes. Yeah. It's like just get off the entire thing and use exogenous hormones. Okay. So that's the first thing that I do is testosterone. What is that? Like a syringe or? Yeah.

Yeah. So that's one. The next thing is going to be a gLP1 agonist. What is that? It's, so I use something similar to a Zembek called Redisutide. Okay. And that's a peptide that basically suppress my appetite, making it difficult to eat. I really think about food too much and because being lean is about 70% of what you could accomplish in terms of looks maxed.

Yeah, really. Immediately. Two homes. And then the next thing is, you know, hair loss because two-thirds of men by 21st years old are experiencing some form of male pattern baldness. So avoiding that is really going to be something that's crucial to maintaining those looks. I agree. So taking what's called a five alpha reductase inhibitor. testosterone converts into dehydrot testosterone through this one enzyme in your body so you're blocking that process because dht

is going to be a huge problem for your hair causes hair follicle miniaturization would you rather lose your hair or your dick because I would say dick Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, fucking I would look terrible without without hair Right, sick exactly, yeah, yeah, but if you go bald you could go jacked, you could go Bruce Willis kind of No, that just makes you look like one of those cring red pill Jester's, I think those I think they're justers too. Yeah, I kind of just like to refer back to the quote like hair is life and if you have no hair you have no life. Confucius. No, that's actually St. Hamoudi. Who's St. Moody? St. Humudy. St. Humudy? Just some autists from like the black pill space. Oh, okay. He's not from the Bible. No, no. Okay.

Yeah, and then you do, so you do like a finesteride or whatever. Something similar. Okay. Because the T-hastoride. Because the T makes you makes you go bald faster. Yeah, it gives you acne. The testosterone and its byproduct. Yeah, yeah. The hydrod testosterone. Yeah, yeah. So you just do those three things?

No, I mean, we'll be sitting here for a little while if we go through the whole. Yeah, yeah. Why don't you go to medical school? Well, I got kicked out of school. Yeah, but whatever. We'll get you back in. I don't know, I don't want to be a Jewish brother, but you should go to medical school. That's a horrible idea.

Why? You know all this crap? Because I'm already... You could help people doing medical school. I would never go back to school. I'm already doing good enough on social media where I can't even think about the word school in a serious context. You could be a doctor. You could be a good job, no?

No, doctors. But you know all this stuff. Do doctors agree with the stuff you're saying right now? Doctors are... You're rogue. I'm telling you, listen to this. These people are literally going to school for 10 years accumulating a retarded amount of debt. Retarded, yeah.

Just to make, like, you know, a wage that's not really going to elevate you. to a physician where you could beat any looks disparity. So it just doesn't really make sense to me. Yeah, but your mom is tells the daughter. Like, dude, if you're going to take out hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of loans, you might as well invest it into surgery rather than going to school. What if you could be a plastic surgeon? And by the way, bad paper.

You can actually get college loans and use it for surgery. So this is a method. So I've been telling people, yeah, you can literally do that. So just misappropriating the funds, it's really not going to get you in that much trouble. And you'll mock, so you'll be able to sort of get out of it. Okay, let's do a rapid-fire question. Okay, it'll be fun. You were interviewed by Michael Knowles.

What do you think of that guy? I thought he was very nice. Okay, never mind. I mocked when he came on here. He's a nice guy, whatever. He is nice. He just tells trans people they should be eradicated. He's really nice guy.

Yeah, so that's why I just like, I don't like to think about politics because these people get into these manic headspaces over nonsense. And I'm just like, they're losers. Dude, why? Yeah, yeah. I have politicians on. They're fucking, they're justers, dude. Yeah, for real.

I had the mayor, Zoron. Have you heard of him? No. He's far. He's pretty far. Zoran? Zoran. No, I never heard of the guy.

He's sick. He's the New York mayor. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah. I'm so far removed. I can give a fuck, man. He's a, he's got a, a high sexual market value.

Do you jester when you're chilling with your boys? Can you gesture with guys? Can you just not jester with girls? Is it okay to jester with fellows? Dude, honestly, it's okay to jester regardless. Oh my God, thank you. When I read that gesturing was cope, forced me to look in the mirror.

It's just like about, you just have to be kind of conscious of the fact that you're gesturing. That's like the main distinction that needs to be made because some people will jester and genuinely think it's like game, or the right approach. Like, if you just want to be silly

and fuck around, like, that's perfectly fine, my opinion. It's fun to make a girl laugh at a joke, though. It's fun. Yeah, but... It feels good. It's like...

That's not really jestermaxing, though. Jester maxing would be like... Juggling. That or just like... Maybe self-deprecating humor would be, like, one thing. Yeah. Yeah.

That's, like, a very jestermax thing to do. What do you do? for fun. What's like what what's dude I'm gonna be honest I don't do anything besides stream come on bro you gotta have fun sometimes

you gotta put a movie on with the boys and make jokes about it because it's a bad movie just try it out. Yo where's the camera guy just dude just please just promise me you'll do that with him we can try yeah fuck no why fuck no dude

I would rather the way I think about it Like when I'm doing anything off camera, that's like an activity, I'm like, I could be streaming this getting paid right now. Come on, dude. You can't just make you. You can't have this, you separate a little bit. Well, think about it, right? There's literally people who do shit like mini golf and bowling and like go and hang out with like go to dinner dates with girls off stream and they're not getting paid. Yeah.

Like, dude, doesn't that fuck with you a little bit? people who actually do that that's what people are primarily doing or you make dinner with your girl you put on a girl show stream it bro you do faith no I don't I don't know I want to I actually like what a private life and I had to learn that did I want my fucking hourly streaming here's the thing I think that people are a little when I look at social media I think like people are kind of ignoring the fact that you're 20 right yeah I would say that pretty much every content creator has seemingly got like this treatment for immaturity or like, you know, people excuse bad behaviors,

but that's never been applied to me whatsoever. Why? I don't know. Maybe it's because I just come across as like more mature when I do like these long form podcasts a lot of the time. So people don't realize my age a lot of the times. And I'm also like a figure of authority in the looks maxing space. Yeah.

So they're like, okay, well, we're not going to give you an easy out on this one. But it's fine. I don't really complain about it. What aspects of life would you not stream? Like, taking a shit, you wouldn't stream. Yeah. Shower. Getting pussy.

Fucking. Well, I mean. Have you streamed having sex? You can't do that, like, actually put it on the camera, but I've done it, like, with the mic on. Really? When, you're rocking her, you're rocking her. work? What's it like for a girl having sex with you?

Like one minute and then you have to go to a clinic a few days later. You're, you, you, you hit it, you hit it quick? Yeah, bro, I gotta get back to work. I'm a bit, I'm a busy guy, yeah. You're such a legend, it's crazy. You're such a legy. Why are girls more flattered about premature ejaculation?

If a girl prematurely ejaculated, I'd be like, I'm the best of sex. What? A girl should be like, Wow, I was incredible today. Dude, it's about my time, right? It's not about... Oh, so you make yourself bust really fast.

Yeah, I'm not here to flatter anyone. So then just jack off, dude. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, yeah. What is the looks back to seeing... You ever do The Stranger? What's the stranger?

Oh, dude, I left out to people about this one. What is it? So basically, you've got to sit on your hand. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the stranger. Yeah, I was going to say. Have you ever done the Tennessee Pile Driver? Oh, the Sun. I kind of want to know. What is it?

It's your, you're, uh, stooping on a wall and you, it's, the force is so big that you smash through the wall. Okay. Yeah, yeah. No. Have you ever done the Darwin? The Darwin? I'm, maybe by accident.

You put your soft dick in a girl's mouth and then it evolves. Yeah, I've done that one. Yeah, yeah. That's a fun one. Uh, so do you feel like a, a, a, or like an anxiety about staying on top? Like, uh, I asked you this earlier. earlier, but are people coming for your spot ever? No, I mean, like, there's making good content is kind of like the goal at the end of the day.

And I think I'm pretty captivating based on what's been happening with the numbers. So I'm just going to continue that, continue being myself. What about Marlin? Who's this Marlin? I'm seeing him. Yeah, yeah. But he's a hot guy too? I don't know.

It's up to you, man. Yeah, yeah. I don't fucking look at guy I don't I don't do the math on guys hot this dude who's the hottest girl the hottest girl ever ever and we're gonna go around the room

you get rid of it maybe you go first I don't know Denise Richards that James Bond movie Dr. Christmas Jones what the old James Bond stuff yeah with Pierce Brosman

yeah she was an 11 or the movie Wild Things model The thing about that question is like I'll kind of flip-flop on the answer a little bit Who's Cindy sweetie you think is number one? No, I think that bitch looks like shit. Really? I saw the clip where you're saying she looks like crap.

Yeah. So you obeyed me to say that. She got big. Have you seen the things? Yeah. Yeah. Kind of awesome, no? Yeah, but it's just hard to get over that face.

Come on, pause. And she's going to be shooting your head off about some like political issue. You think Sidney, sweetie, is political? People want her to be. They want her to be, too. I know, bro. It's fucking retarded. Why do people attribute looks maxing to be right-wing?

They just don't know what it is, man. So they're kind of, you know, scrambling to figure out what I'm about. And, because it's a whole new thing. Yeah. Because you're on forums, you say naughty words, so they think it's right-wing? Yeah, that's just like any fringe, you know, culture on the internet is kind of like edgy. and, you know, not something that you would hear just out and about on a day-to-day basis.

So it's not necessarily political at all. It's just looks at self-improvement. Who's the hottest chick, dude? Just come on. Just tell me. Hotest chick. I think Taylor Hill's pretty good. Just a model.

He's that. Run a pick. Let me see you. Come on. She's fire. And you guys think that Matt Bonner is the hottest guy? I said the highest in terms of the objective harmony ratios.

Matt, from the Spurs, the Redhead guy, the three-point shooter? Matt Bonner? Let's see. That's check. She's hot. Let me see. Do you take that down or no? No, man, not yet.

Just say what up to her, just DM her or something. A couple more fashion shows, maybe. Really? She's a fashion model? Yeah. Just say hi or something. Dude, that's the thing. You know what you should do?

Respond to a story and say, damn, bro. She's perf, and then she'll say question mark. And you'll be like, I meant to send that to my friend. Dude, she descended, though. That's what gestures do. She descended since that photo, so. She ended? She's dead.

Descended. Descended. Yeah, like, looks worse. I got to show you some shit, dude. There's a whole wide world out there outside of male beauty. Peep this, dude. You're going to love it. Those are nice headphones, too.

Check those out. You know this track? Put them on, dude. Not I'm gonna mess up my hair. Not really messed out. Come on, dude. Can I put you, I'll play you another try. Not really your style, you're an idiot.

Okay, this song will change your life. Yeah, Garden State, dude. She says this song will change your life and it does. Does your boy know these songs? What? The Karm employees, yeah, from Invincible. From what? The show.

The show? What's invincible? Oh, you don't know it? It's an animated show. No, I don't watch cartoons, bro. What the fuck, man? You don't fuck with this? No, no.

Alright. You want to hear a song that I wrote? Tell me if this is good. Do you want me to be honest? Yeah, be honest, honestly. Okay. When you're weary, feel it's small. A little slow.

Keep listening, dude. Wait for the hook. Like a bridge over troubled water Can I ask you another question? What's your favorite animal? Um Dog? Yeah. Me too.

I have a dog. Me too. What kind of dog? I don't know. I have pit bull. I hate when people ask me that question. Why? They think it's weird if you don't know what kind of dog you have. Dude, look at my dog.

And that's another just like, that's what Normie's interacting. Nice. Yeah, yeah. Do you think? I got her from the street. Normie's interacting is always so silly to me because they're like, what, it was that? Like normal people?

Yeah, I can't stand it. Because they run into each other and they're like, oh, what kind of dog do you have? Is this if they give a shit about it? That is, and then they go mini golf. Yeah. Answer, so yeah, no, I never. Wait, let me see your dog then. Just be a Normie for a second.

Just be normal, maybe for a second, dude. All right. Your dog looks, that's your best friend? Um, is that what they say? I don't know. Who's your best friend? This guy in the back? Um.

He fucked 10 girls. And he said low double digit. Yeah, I can't even find a picture of my dog. Like, where do you rank male beauty in like the kind of scale of what's important? Like the highest. Like higher than like, uh, like kindness or something. Yeah. Really.

Why is that? Well, because. these things are going to be perceived according to the physical right so like all the intangible things like you know being kind or you know being funny yeah that's all going to be haloed by your attractiveness so there's no point in really valuing them as separate things when they're all kind of interconnected well like Mother Teresa she wasn't quite she was a looker but she was she's famous for her kindness right like she didn't need a baseline attractiveness she was she was

she was kind right like she you know well nobody gives a shit about mother Teresa I'm gonna be honest with you people do no people she's she's she's famous yeah yeah but like I think people are probably gonna care more about someone in Hollywood like a Brad Pitt figure than they would mother Teresa for because he's hotter than her he probably mocks yeah he mobs he would mug her, that's for sure. Yeah. Since you've maximized your attractiveness, right?

The things that I've seen, like, I found out about you from, are like things like the car, the, you know, the thing last week in Arizona, like, those kind of things, I guess, have those, do you perceive those as complicating your life?

Like, you know, like, so it's just like, is the formula of, like, maximizing your attractiveness to make everything better, does that necessarily, maybe Does that complicate it? Well, I just have an interesting status, I guess you could say, where I'm like a infamous figure. Yeah. So, you know, where there's a lot of love, and I would say that's 99% of interactions, those aren't the ones that are going viral and headlines as someone dickhead who is a hater and wants to, you know, do some dumbass shit.

Yeah. You know what I mean? So that's just what goes viral, but that's not the reality of the situation. Yeah. The reality of the situation is, you know, I'm talking about men's issues and kind of identifying with that. And no one's been a spokesperson for, you know, the struggle in any meaningful way, I would say. You're the first. Well, there's just a lot of, like, disinformation, I guess, would be the way you could put it.

Or there's sort of like a key element that's always been. missing from the manosphere and the red pill space which was that looks are an extremely important thing and they shouldn't be ignored so I think young men like feel kind of understood by my message like you know by me what residents you think with young men well because I understand it right it's it's not like I have my head super big because I'm famous it's like I kind of blew up on social media not that long ago. So I was right there in the struggle. Yeah. You know, I was still working a normal job less than a year ago. Wage cook. Yeah, I was wage cucking. Yeah. What was your last job? Working at a restaurant. Yeah. If you're close with your sister, right? If someone

told her that she was low tier, Becky or subhuman, whatever, like, would you want to beat their ass? Well, that'd be like sort of a cortisol spike. So, The expectation for you to do some dumb ass shit and, like, get into fights all the time, I think it's just a culture that definitely needs to be added, like, I'm, you know, I'm high class, and I don't do shit like that. In the same sense as Michael Knowles fixating on trans people's lives, like, what is the merit of telling someone that they are nasty? Well, yeah, I guess, and I would not really.

do that unless someone were to be a dickhead to me first. And I think any of the clips where it's just like me, you know, talking to someone in a disrespectful manner, they always cut out the previous part of the interaction where they would just come up and start acting crazy. Like I'm not... I imagine so. Yeah, it's not like I'm going up to people and being like, oh, you're fucking subhuman. I saw a clip where a girl was like trying to flirt with you.

She's like, why did you come say hi? You're like because your fucking cheeks look like shit or something. No, no. You said her mandicular was crappy or something. Come on to be nice to girls, dude, at least. I am. You should be nicer, girl. I would say, I've...

They're girls, you. There's a lot of clips of this, but pretty much every single chick of men person was, like, wow, you're actually a lot nicer. I think as a thesis, the concept that life is exponentially better for people. that are good looking is the most obvious thing in the world and you're just articulating that yeah and I don't like to me that just makes sense right right and that's been our like what's benefited us in life like that's why we've just everyone's like you know like it's fine like it's annoying sometimes right like when you know just girls are like this every time I you know publicly

masturbating everything I'm sorry I'm sorry but but like but beyond that what I'm saying is is that like I guess what I was younger getting obsessed with something was something that losers did like a cool people and hot people could just be normal right and that's the fascinating thing about this is like it was never a cool thing to be obsessed with anything and I think that that's what I'm trying to grapple with you know what I mean yeah I would not really say that looks maxing is cool I would say that it's something only you're the coolest guy you're the biggest streamer

Well, I mean, it's more just that there's a lot more sides of the internet now, and there's a lot, like, people are just looking for what's new, what's fresh. Yeah, yeah, no. Dude, I think it's fascinating, and I really hope that I'm not condescending. No, no, no, no. I don't get any malicious vibe at all, you know. I would say, dude, I'm not going to lie, I already kind of forgot. It's fine, dude. Don't worry about it.

That happens to me, too. Yeah, yeah. But it's thrilling to be around me and stuff, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm awesome, right? Absolutely. I feel the same way about you.

I appreciate you having me out. Yeah, yeah, I feel the same way about, I mean, also, like, you're braided, right? Yeah, yeah. You could call me by my real name too. Okay. Yeah, Muhammad. Muhammad?

Yeah, my guy. Yeah, I think that was awesome. You enjoyed it, guys?