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Episode Date: January 2, 2026

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I mean, my 20s, my entire 20s, I was broke and just living couch-to-coach kind of situation. So, yeah, for a hot plate and a couch. I remember one time I hit a bit so big, and we were sleeping in the bed together. Yeah. And like her roommate had came in the room. She didn't even though I was in the room. We was laying next to each other. She didn't even know a knicker was in that bitch.

Yeah, that shit was crazy. That's what I was like, yeah, this shit got to stop. All right And finish you, oh, my had a family show, oh, I'm having a show, oh, I'm having a show on my TV. guys, happy New Year to all of you. I hope you guys are doing well. I hope you're with your families. I hope you're relaxing. It's been a real wild ride and thank you for a great year. I mean, should I do what I said?

Yes, I am. Am I going to get flamed if I, if I play? Play. All right. I just want to say my life has really changed this year. It was a sincere note, okay? This episode, I'm like hungover. I don't really do much. He kind of carries me. But let's get that out of the way. Danny Brown is the guest but I was practicing this in the studio and I thought on a sincere note like it's been a great year

and I love the guys here I love you guys seriously and I appreciate you guys for liking the show it's really cool that we can that people think it's good it's really cool actually it's sick and like our lives have changed this is like so cringe but I'm going to do it

I don't care guys You know what? I learned this year that it's okay to talk about what's in your heart. So I just want to say, I just want to say. Tears gone cold and wonder why. Oh, one more. All right. Tears gone cold and wonder why.

Got out of bed at all. Morning rain, clouds on my window Oh fuck All right, I'm not, I don't All right Tears, look Tears gone cold I'm wondering why

I go out of bed and all Morning rain, clouds on my window And I can't see it all And even if I could It would all be great We could picture on the wall It reminds me that it's not so bad It's not so bad

Alright, now the... I gotta... What are the chords? Oh, it's so easy. I didn't even... Okay And I What a thank you. for giving me the best year year of my life. It kind of is.

And I want to thank you for giving me the best year. Oh, one more. And I want to thank you for giving me the best year. my life. Thanks guys. I really appreciate it. And you're just to be with you. Oh, fuck.

I want to get the chorus better. I'm sorry, guys. And I want to thank you. All of you, and the boys too. It was the best day of my love. Just to be with you. You're the best day of my life. Is that good?

No, no. Can I try one more? I'm sorry, guys. And I want to thank you. Thank you for giving me the best year of my life. Thank you, guys. And I'm just to be with you, giving me the best day of my life. I hope Red Bar doesn't see that.

Is that, was that embarrassing? The guest is Danny Brown. Enjoy this episode. I don't have it. Guys, we're exhausted. How much did we do this year? It's been fucking 11 months. Guys, a shout out to Zach in the other room.

He's doing coverage right now. Thank you to you guys. We got a lot of big things playing for the New Year. Really, seriously. It's been a great year. Danny Brown. He kind of carries it, by the way. I don't do shit in this one.

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What's up, Brenda? You dressed so cool, dude. Thank you. Is this like your New York look, or you look like that in Austin, Texas, too? I mean, it's hot out there. I know. So I got to, you know, I got to pick my poison.

Do you like layering, kind of like an autumn, autumnal kind of fits? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I plan for it. I like buying clothes pre-season. Exactly. Like in the summer, I'm shopping for fall.

And you put on like a slouchy Saturday morning and you go to the farmer's market with your bitch? No. I don't know why I said it that way. I really, when I'm home, I'm really more like, just, because it's so hot, so whatever you can wear just to not be hot. Yeah, but, yeah, I guess so. They're too big, they're big over there in Texas, the people. I mean, I eat a lot.

Have you seen the portions? Yeah, it's disgusting. But if you came here, you'd be a tall gentleman. You're probably, we were like 5-11. I'm 6'1, 3, maybe. Oh, in New York. I mean, on my Wikipedia to say I'm 6-3, so we'll go, yeah. I'm just saying you're like a New York 6-8 then I'm just saying you're like it's a good

feeling okay yeah yeah yeah Danny DeVito is basically the the normal high in New York height yeah yeah you see a lot of them guys like dating like 11s and you're like how does that work money so I was at the Zohon mom Donnie election party last night yeah I got I'm hung over for yes I mean it's pretty lame to I'm not jealous of you some things I don't Some things happen. Some things happened last night. And I can't say because it's kind of a secret. Sounds like a great time. I'm just not talking to AOC again.

Oh, yeah. All right. I'm, she, I'm, she know, you know what you did. You know what you did. You feel like, do you know that Zoron was a rapper? Mm-mm. He was, he was a hit, he was a rapper. It's got his weapon. Do you feel like representations, knowing that there's a rapper mayor of New York? No.

No. That has nothing. I mean, rap. He's got smoke with 50, too. You know that? Really? Yeah, 50 is talking shit. He said that because he's going to raise my taxes or something.

See, I've been staying away from social media, so I don't know what's going on in the world. Me too. I just learned all this in the last, what, 30 minutes before the interview? Okay. No, but yeah, famously, you were nearly signed by G-U. I mean, Tony Yale took a liking to my music, so he was helping me out. But there was something about your pants or something? I mean, they didn't like, I mean, 50 didn't like that

I wore skinny jeans. Really? Yeah. He said, why your pants so tight? Yeah. He's so leave good of him. So you're on Team Zoron in this beef right now. I'm not on no team, because we don't know in two years.

They're two of the finest rappers out right now. I don't trust politicians, really. So in like two years, we don't know what we gotta see, we gotta see his work. Yeah, yeah. You got to show and prove first, so I can't. I think he's, I met him, and I think he's just pretty, like, he's just a millennial he likes soccer because I remember when Detroit had a real young mayor really why me killed Patrick and oh yeah he got some charges right yeah what

was that what was the scandal with car me kill killed I mean it was a lot but I feel like it was like just misusing funds type of situation if Michigan let's say Michigan had a governor race right and for the Republicans you had kid rock and Democrats you had M&M who do you think would win Eminem yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Would it be close, you think, or? I don't know. Yeah, I would vote for M and M too. Yeah, I think I vote for M.

Do you have a relationship with Marshall? I met him. Yeah, he really is so good at rapping. It's really like, but sometimes it's like, you're rapping too good. I mean, when M first came around, it wasn't really too many white rappers, so it was like he had to really go extra, extra,

to really be, you know, and I feel like he was just a fan. So we care more about the genre than, you know, the average rapper, I would say. Yeah. Did you think there'll be more opportunities for white rap? It's a lot of opportunities for white rappers right now. I mean, were you part of the, the, what, the eight mile thing? Was that a real thing? I wasn't, I'm not from eight mile. But did you do, did you go to the mom spaghetti kind of battle kind of place? Um, no, that was kind of like before my time. Yeah. That was like the generation before me. So I would have loved to be a part of that world.

When I came around, it was more like open mic. It was like open mic situations, but they were kind of like, it was kind of like dying out. Were people doing stand-up at the open mic? No, it was just rap. Yeah. That would be so fun. It used to be sick though.

Yeah. If someone was just like talking about Tinder in the middle of it and getting booed. I mean, you would get booed if you was trash. Did you ever go end to eight-mile mode where you're like, I live in a trailer? My mom has lunchhouses. No, but you say all the things embarrassing about yourself. Oh, I think I do all the time.

I mean, I just think that's self-awareness. You were inspired by B. Rabbit to do that? Was he kind of like a... I think M. inspired a lot. Yeah. But as far as like that, I think, yeah, I guess. So he never unked you as, like, a newer Detroit rapper? I mean, I will say...

I mean, at the time we met, I was still deep into, like, my alcoholism and still getting, you know, up and all that so I'm sober so you know around that you know yeah because and I wasn't you know I was still having fun so it wasn't so I totally understand that you drank a fifth vodka and would you dare me to drive did you ever say that to it that would be funny no you were on the like a verge of signing for for G you I wouldn't say I'm the verge I mean 50 started to I mean you know I would make songs at

Yale crib and he had playing for me he eventually started to take a liking to me Yeah. You know, but I still, I just was, I was too old. I kind of feel like, so I was already stuck in my ways of what I wanted to be as an artist, and he wanted to move me into something else. Was there ever a moment where you were going to just, like, they wanted you to just fucking sell out? I wouldn't say sell out. It's just more what they thought would be more appealing to what the masses of hip-hop or the average hip-hop fan were like.

Did they pitch you on, like, an outfit or like an aesthetic? No, no, I mean, he gave me some clothes one time, like, just where it is. Back of your pants? big ass fucking pants with like some gold $100 bills on the back pocket. Yeah. Why didn't you put on the damn pants? I wore them a little bit. I did.

Put on the damn pants. I wore them a little bit. Then I was like, hold, let me get these skinny jeans back. Do you conceive of like the fact that like in hip hop today, like there was primarily just a coastal thing happening? And it took a while for like, I guess first it was Atlanta, maybe a little Houston, maybe a little... I mean, but that's just where like the bigger companies was at. So if you were somebody that was in the meal west, if you wasn't traveling to New York or L.A. to get a record deal, you wasn't really doing them. But I still think it was

like a lot of scenes still bubbling, like Memphis, been doing anything for a real long time. Since the 90s. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Have you ever listened to those early, like DJ cult types? Yeah, they're amazing. Yeah, Little Fly, Lord Infamous. All that shit. I like Coops to Knicker. But the music just sounds like it's coming out of a shoebox. Or it sounds like it's coming out of hell, actually. I mean, that's the vibe. It sounds insane. It's the best music, I think, ever. Like. I love that they took to it in like Asian countries now and it's like 3-6 mafia style rap groups in like Tokyo and shit.

Yeah, it's weird. They make drifting videos to that shit. Your dad was a house DJ, correct? He hates that, I say that. He just DJed for fun. Right. But he's DJ house music, that was his style. Detroit was techno, right?

Chicago's house. And like, the cool thing is, like, it's bigger in Europe, basically. Like, those artists are bigger in Europe than they are in the States, basically. And Germany. And Germany, yeah. Yeah. Why there? I think it's always just like Birdland.

Birdland just always took to like, like you have been a treasurer? I would, I'm never going to go. Why? What's wrong with Burlington? That's a fool me one situation. I'm not going back. So when did you like, when was the first time you felt like you, you like popped? I mean, it was, um, it was a year I was playing at South by Southwest. And, um, you know, I was just doing the normal shows, like every, and the biggest show at the time was like Thader Fort.

And Raphao Sadiq couldn't make his flight. And so they needed to fill the spot. And, you know, I was just starting to get a name and it was bubbling. So they had me to come fill his spot. And, you know, I did great at the show. I started to see, like, my social media started to go crazy. I was gaining followers. And then maybe like a year later, I was on the cover of the fader.

So that was like my moment. Wow. It sounds like an old story, right? Like there was a cancellation on Johnny Carson, and then I had a great set. It's kind of like there's something like, there's something sweet about it. Yeah, because it was like, I was just like, I had my moment. I was prepared.

And I killed it. And so yeah, so then the next year I was like headlining hate report. We had a great idea for a documentary. I know your manager is here. You want to pitch your manager on what our idea was? Yeah, we're going to go back to my motherland, which is the Philippines. We're going to go to the Philippines and connect with the, the Wakanda kind of like retracing the ancestors.

I want to find out who speared my uncle. Someone speared him, like Bill Goldberg saw? Like, no, talking about with the actual spear. No. Who did that? We got to go find out. That's what the documentary about. Oh, so this is more of like a revenge.

Like a murder mystery. This is a revenge, true crime. Murder mystery, true crime. Just call Netflix right now. What are you doing? Niggas are still getting speared. He's on his phone right now. Who are you texting?

He's bored. I heard Netflix don't pay nobody, though, so. What? Netflix ain't paying nobody, so. I know, yeah. It's not. Not true. Go to 2Bee, man.

Two beat, thing? I think so. Yeah, yeah. Maybe. Who, like, who did you look at as, like, your kind of influences? Like, what was the thing that kind of inspired you to get, to get started making music? I mean, I knew I wanted to rap the very first time I heard L.L. Cool J. I can say my favorite rapper was Nas growing up.

Yeah. And then, you know, Wu-Tang and then, you know, of course, like I had a West Coast Faye, Snoop, and death row and all that. and all that. But I think my biggest influence is a U.K. rapper, Disney Rascal. He's the best. Yeah, he's the goat. He's the best. He's a goat.

Have you met him before? Yes. Is he cool? A few times, yeah. He's like, dude, how classy is that? Check it out, dude. It's like Don Draver. Living the life.

Yeah. I'm hungover. I'm Don Draver. Dude, I can't believe I'm hungover from a politics party. I gotta tell you. I would have to be drunk to go to that shit. to go to that shit. There is, of course, you had a famous incident once on stage.

Mm-hmm. Pretty cool. I wouldn't say so. Now that I look back on it. I mean, you were probably, you were in my 30s. I was in your 30s. Yeah. Too old to be doing that kind of shit.

Yeah, well, how old were you? In my 30s. How old in your 30s? I can't remember. I was on a lot of Molly. You could only run for president at 35, so that's pretty, that's pretty no i think i was probably before 35 okay so you're 33 come on you're maybe about 33 yeah yeah 33 so you can't even be the president yeah yeah you can get your dick suck

30's still young though yeah yeah yeah so in retrospect it's like uh i mean come but it's not like the worst thing of the world i mean i mean yes it's a little i like to forget it yeah i don't want to bring it up it's probably annoying because you get like asked about it yeah it's so long ago that was like 20 years ago yeah and you were married to her either. No. Yeah. I think it was a CIA Sciop.

Really? The CIA Secretary Jake on stage? I think they was put, I think it was planted. That's so them. That is so CIA. That is so, I should have known. That is exactly the kind of thing they would do. They would do that.

Why does the CIA come here? It is a conspiracy theory behind it. Do you have baby boys, baby bros? Are there younger rappers that you look out for? look out for? I mean, it's a lot of younger artists that I connect with. But I wouldn't say look out for. I mean, if they, you know, when I ask me some advice, I'm always here to talk, but I can't

say I'm not hands-on with anybody like that. Is it like a lone wolf kind of world? Like, it's like kind of- I can comedy like that too? I'm the only one that's- Comedy, definitely some long wolf, backstab, but with rap music, it's a little more communal. Really? Yeah.

Like, you can help each other. Lose your best friend in rap. Best friend in rap? I would say I have best friends because you know how that is. And I'm old. When you're getting, I mean, I don't know. I'm not like hanging out. As a man, you shouldn't have friends, right?

I like, I really like hanging out with Quedeca. That's my homie. We went to go see weapons. It was a great time. Was it a good movie? Hell yeah, I like that shit. Yeah. That's nice you go to a movie with your friend from work.

Yeah, you know? He was in Austin. He's like, you want to go see weapons? I'm like, yeah, I was, I feel good. I feel good. I want to go on a date. What's the fattest you would go with a girl? I don't hit some big bitches.

What's the biggest? I mean, my 20s, my entire 20s, I was broke and just live in couch-to-couch kind of situation. So, yeah, for a hot plate and a couch, I was smashing. Hell yeah, I used to be on them phone chat lines. And the fat bitches, the fad bitches, they used to be sounding good, too. Really? You'd be like, damn, this boy shit, I know this, show up 300 pounds. Like, all right.

I just always used to have a pep, I just had a pep talk with my way while I was I was over there and be like, man, it don't matter, man. Whatever it is, I'm hitting it, man. Yeah. You just gotta be strong. I only did it one time. You know what I'm saying? You just gotta be strong.

Get over there, like y'all, I knew. See, you'd be mentally prepared. I remember one time I hit a bit so big, and we were sleeping in the bed together. Yeah. And like her roommate had came in the room. She didn't even though I was in the room. We was laying next to each other.

She didn't even know a nigger was in that bitch. Yeah, that shit was crazy. That shit was crazy. That's what I was like, yeah, this shit gotta stop I'm fucking bitch is so big I could hide behind him you didn't know that it was a two-man situation I was hungry that night she says she was buying pizza really yeah we I'm like man I'm tired of sleeping at grandma crib let me just get a night away and then it'll make you start to appreciate

the grandma career because you were like damn I was hard work I can't do that every night that was some shit it was some heavy lifting I mean just you know I only did it one time and it would feel like she every time I've been with a lady I've been like she's an idiot what is she doing yeah what a fool like imagine your father and then but with the the bigger one she was like she was like thank you she was like she appreciated me she made me feel beautiful yeah yeah she made me feel beautiful they have a purpose man yeah and if it does feel like you've kind of so I don't got no like I don't got no type

yeah no type whatsoever yeah it's kind of gay to have a type yeah I like I'm more about personality come up You wouldn't be with some sort of... If I hate you, I can't be around you. Yeah, but if it's an awesome, like, with the eye and hanging out of the socket, you wouldn't do that. If it's a great guy, girl, I'm hung over. I'm trying to think about it.

Like, like, if I knew her before... Imagine a small hand, but she's like, funny as fuck. Now, if this is like toxic Avengers, shit. Yeah, yeah. Acid burn victims. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And it's no shade. I mean, you could be friends.

Yeah. Can you be friends with a girl? I don't think so I don't think so either they always fall in love with us I try they always fall in love with us and they say things like

you're not there for me and I'm like you're not my girlfriend you're not my girlfriend I mean it's possible but it's possible I just I think I just wasn't at the right place in my life to be friends with women when I were

because I kind of now I miss those kind of relationships yeah because you can kind of talk to them about different shit that you tell one of your homeless They're like, man, shut your gay ass up. Right, you could be sensitive with her.

Yeah, that's true. Sometimes you need the outside perspective. You need to talk to a bitch about a bitch. I know, you could like say a little, like, gay thing once, and then it's kind of, she'll just, you could be like, I know. Yeah, and she'll like, they like that. You could be yourself.

You could be yourself. You can watch reality TV. Yeah. You could be like, let's see how real, these housewives are. That's my thing, 90 day fiancee. Yeah, I love that. Mm-hmm. Do you find that you end up hating the American every time?

I think I do every time. No, because, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because sometimes, I mean, because I'll be rooting for the scammers. Yeah, I kind of do. The African niggas with the fat white bitch. That was the best one. That was the best one.

The Nigeria guy? The Nigeria guy. And she went to Nigeria and put him on that. And she had corn rolls and all type of show. You were so disgusting, that woman. He's a good man. She's like, and then I saw he had, he had 2,000 other women on his social media. And then she felt betrayed.

That's some shit right. Yeah, and he's wearing the trumpet. He's like, he's a great business man. Yeah. He moved her, he moved with her, didn't he? She tried to like make him like he was just babysitting kids and shit. Oh, she was one of those. You can't see the roommate on the other side kind of leaves.

No, she was, she was, what I'm talking about was crazy. mountain. It was a mountain. Really? Yeah, that was like three or four of them. I'm talking about like the 600 pound type shit. Really? Like you see, yes, I'm telling you. Like, they can't leave the house? So how did you? She left, she left the house.

But I'm telling you, it was painful. I know she used to be in pain. How did you know that she was offering the pizza? But she's like, you have to exchange some services. That's how she wooed me. So you were out, where did you see you? Do you remember it? Do you remember the like the series of events.

This was in the early 2000s. This was back in the day where you can call one of them party lines up on the phone. And it'd be like, it'd just be bitches. You could just, you'd be listening to profile and be like, I'm at the crib right now and it's hot and juicy. Really?

And then you gotta press the number. You gotta press a number, leave her a message. And then she immediately leave her message. Like, just hit my number. Then y'all would call or whatever. And then you link up. Really? Yeah, she's like, I was just about to order a piece.

I got some weed. I just need some dig. I said I knew she was big when she said dad, though. I'm like, all right, this sounds like a good night. That sounds great. Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying it was a bad time. You had a great time.

I mean, I was, the way I felt about myself the next day when I got back to my grandma's home. That self-hatred. You didn't hate her. I was really ashamed. She's a great person. And I only was ashamed because then in the morning, I was like, damn, I need to get some cigarettes. She's like, oh, I didn't walk to the gas station. I remember we walked to the gas station together.

To forever. And then no, it was a nigger. He was pumping his gas and just the way he was looking at me. He was like, I just knew in my heart. That's something that was like, man. He was like, oh, no, no, no. I was just like. And I tried to be proud.

Look at him in the eyes. Like, yeah, I'm with the big bitch. But I didn't want to go through that no more. That's all it was. What about it, sir? Public perception is everything, man. I wasn't that, I wasn't that mature in life, man. that mature in life, man.

Did you, did you tell you, what did you say to your grandma when you came back? It just was a ghosting. I mean, my grandma, she wanted me out the house for the night, like, damn. So she was like, your grandma was like, just go find one of these? No, she ain't care. I'm just saying, like, I'm, you know, when you couch, sir. She didn't say, how was last night? No, my grandma, she was happy I was gone somewhere.

She wasn't like telling me all about it. She's like, I hope he moved in with the bitch. Really? Yeah. Is she still with us, your grandma? Hell yeah. How old did she know? I don't know.

She old. Does she know that you have money now? I mean? Or does she still treat you like your legs on the couch? My grandma is a boss, man. My grandma own like five houses. Really? Me, my money, she probably, like,

he still ain't got money like that. My grandma, that kind of. My grandma's a, like, yeah. Everyone needs to be real money to her. Say, it's all right. My grandma, I will like, you're doing all right for yourself.

I, like, will not see her for a year, and then I'll see her and she'll be like, you have problems. And I'll be like, fuck you lady. Mine is. My grandma cuss a lot. My grandma cuss a lot. My Filipino grandma is pretty cool, but she's very strict.

Is she good at karaoke or no? No, my grandma, I mean, my grandma's been here since the 60s. Really? Yeah, she'd go back every blue moon. No, I don't think my grandma, she's good at sewing. I don't know if that's a Filipino thing. I mean, that's her job. That's what she always did.

They're unreal at karaoke. I thought that was always, like, that's more of like a Japan kind of thing. No, no, kind of okay is a Japanese word, but the Filipinos really gave it a new meaning. I know they love it over there in the UK, too. Yeah, but they don't do a Filipino style like that. I mean, I never was a karaoke guy, to be honest. I feel like I'm working for free. Because you make your own songs.

Yeah, I'm working for free at that point. For me, I feel like... It was fun. I've been one time when I was Chief Keefe. You went with Chief Keefe? Oh, no, I did. Kesha. You did?

What? It's going down. I'm yelling timber. Yeah, I did that one. That's a song, man. I said, put that on. Put that on. Yeah, that's a great curiosity.

did you ever meet chief keef yeah he's the best right yeah he's amazing he's amazing he's like a normal guy now too have you see that's great because he was just he was I mean he was on drugs when he left I mean he left LA I mean he left Chicago you know yeah he spent this whole 20s in LA now but everyone thought that he was like potentially mentally retarded but like I mean he got Asperger's done yeah probably but that that's why the hooks are so good I think he said that's why the hooks are so good but like in but then I saw an interview with him like a couple months ago he's like, yeah, just needed to get out of Chicago, pretty much happy here in L.A., just a normal guy.

I mean, he's like 39, so I think he's like them at 30. Yeah, so I'm saying he spent his whole 20s in L.A. I feel like that was a pivotal time in his life. So yeah, definitely changed him. He's definitely a different person than what he would have if he grew up in Chicago. Yeah, yeah. Was Detroit as crazy as Chicago when you were growing up or no? I mean, I think Chicago just going through a real hard time right now. I feel like every city has those phases of just spikes of crime type shit but I think Detroit has definitely chilled out from when I was a kid what was it was like growing up because it was like post like auto boom I mean it was I just remember all

that shit kind of like going down you know yeah yeah progress because my grandma worked for Chrysler no so and I just but she got hurt on a job so she had retired real early she did yeah and your parents that were they in the auto industry or no no no no my mom had me 18 my dad had me at 16 they had four kids about a time he was 21 your dad's 16 your mom's 18 mm-hmm that's pretty cool yeah did you respect him for that I mean my dad was like I mean they were young well he pulled like kids growing kids I never ever thought about that but did your dad hurt his hand yeah how you know about that from all the high fives oh no no he did lose

the finger though oh never mind from all the high fives no Well, he worked somewhere. Oh, in a factory? Yeah, some type of shit. Oh, shit. And you're closer with your mother or your father? I would say it's equal. Really?

It's equal. I grew up, I mean, they were together all the way to I was about 18. So my pops is in and out of the house. What music do they show you growing up? My dad, he was a super hip-hop fan. So, like, he was the first person ever. He bought me Wu-Tang first CD. I didn't even know what Wu-Tang was.

Really? Yeah. You got like a cool dad. Yeah, definitely. Like, even like just with, even like with clothes and shit. Like, my dad would get the Jortons the first day they came out. Whatever new console, video game console is coming out, we'd get it the first day. So he'd play it all the goddamn time.

So then you had to wait three days before you can even try it out. My dad got, my dad did that with my N-E-S. Yeah, he got addicted. My dad was addicted to Madden, man. Yeah, yeah. My dad was addicted to Super Mario. I was like, can I play? And he invented a new handhold?

Like, you felt it like this? Like this? Like this? What do you find? 14 year old Asian kid what he was like up late like yeah yeah that kind of shit it's really annoying when our dads are kind of trying to do kids stuff like that I mean it was a gift and a curse because I was happy to have all the games and shit yeah you know like I said my pastor's in and out so sometimes he might be gone for like three four days but then you come back with the coolest gift

ever mm-hmm oh my god that's so awesome yeah I know right yeah did you have a cool car yeah he was one of those dads who rose up in a cool car and he's like I'll see you I'll see you around the way. I think, yeah, the coolest car my dad had. He had, remember the Eddie Bauer Explorer trucks when they first dropped. We had that. We had that. He would be wearing Eddie Bauer and shit driving in the Eddie Bauer.

Then you know the green one. He had the real drug there. You remember the tires exploded, the firestone tires. Did they? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like the most popular car in America. Then there was like a huge recall because the tires, that's fun. The tires were exploding on the Ford Explorer.

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gone for four years now but like kind of like most most people I go to New York or LA I feel like I've got my stance but I just always felt like I couldn't handle my I wasn't disciplined enough to be in L.A. or New York. You were like with Paris Hilton kind of situation? No, I just knew that I partied too hard in Detroit. You know, you get the winners. You can't do shit. Stay in the house and I work on music.

Really? You know, so I think it was great that I didn't try to lead Detroit too soon because I just wouldn't know how to handle it. Do you have like a production partnership that you've maintained or is it, do you kind of just? I think, yeah, I keep a relationship with everybody that I work with in some sense. but I feel like every album, I'm always trying to find a new sound or something to influence me, so it's always good to like work

with newer people coming up and stuff. I have some stuff I can show you. Hmm? Okay. Yeah. Let's talk about the new album. Like what was like, what was the new, you say that you try out different things each time.

What was like the thought process this time around? I mean, I was just really influenced by like what was going on and like the hyperpop break chorus scene. Yeah. I wanted to reach out and work with a lot of those artists. Who produced on it? I got underscores, jane remover,

Quadeca, Holly did a lot, you know. Did you get British folks? That sounds British style, let me. I have a Polish rapper on there, Tyukranca. Really? You know the Polish, they got a rough rap, you know, a lot of people. I mean, because she, that's what I'm saying. Hers, when she rap, it almost sounds.

Oh, is it girl Polish? Yeah, it almost sounds Asian almost. Really? Yeah, the way she, she's sick, man. Tides sick. When you're saying you're getting interested in like, like break core, you called it? Yeah.

What, just describe what that is for you. I mean, DigiCorps, break core. It's just more like, like. Is it like Dance Revolution? That's what it sounds like to me. I would say it's kind of like a cousin of like drum and bass and jungle. So it sounds British, right?

Yeah, I mean, yeah. It's definitely influenced, definitely a lot of samples from that. Yeah. It's music that like on a rainy day, you drive like a VW golf, like a GTI. I just walk in the rain. Really? Yeah.

That's beautiful. Yeah, you just walk in the rain. Do you conceive of like, when you finish the song, do you ever, do you ever conceive of like, I've written the, I've written, that's a perfect song? Or do you like, I never say perfect song because I always want to get better. I feel like when music is never, you never, you know, like even Bowie did it till he was gone. You know, so it's like, you get, and it's one of the other albums he made. Is he your goat?

Blackstar? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I could only listen to it twice because I was too sad. I ain't about to go back. I'm not running black star back. He's your number one? He's one of your number ones?

I mean, definitely a huge inspiration, but I would say I wasn't around for that time to where I've seen the impact. But just reading, you know, studying and doing history, I definitely could get some inspiration from there. I would say prints too, kind of like that. Yeah, Midwest. Did you ever meet him? No, I wish. I wish to. Yeah.

Yeah, he would be so mean to me. That same thing I was literally thinking in my head. You imagine how mean he would be? I mean, but I wouldn't have it no other way. The artist. I'm so excited to me. I mean, I wouldn't be disappointed by that. That's what I would say.

You know how they'd never meet your idols type shit? I would just like expect that for him. He was mean to his friends. If he was nice to me, I'd be like, oh shit. He hated Michael and Michael, like, just was completely unfazed by it. That rivalry was the funniest rivalry in the world. I can't pick between them, too. I was Michael growing up.

Of course, I was too, but once I got old enough, I realized the genius of prince. When Michael did the dick grab thing, when I was a little kid, I would see it on TV, and I started doing it. And then I would get so much trouble. Mike fucked me up, man. And I got my ass with fucking with Mike. Really?

Yeah. It was not cool to like Mike? I mean, that bad video came out, and you remember he was in the subway, being bad and shit. And those are real bad guys in the video. He got real bad boys. I know. I was getting bullied on the playground.

And I thought, you know. You thought your butt is mine? You were trying to do your butt as mine. I know, I just thought, do what Michael do and get up out of this, you know what I'm saying? So I hit the, oh, and got punched right in the mouth. You thought that was real fighting? I was the music ran my life, you know?

You thought that was how a person fights? I didn't know, but yeah, I did try to break out the bad routine before the scrap and got my ass-wook. Imagine if it worked. So embarrassing, I'm glad we moved. Dude, you have to move schools. You have to move schools out. Yeah, I think you're right.

But yeah, I got my ass whoop. I mean, that is something. I didn't even realize you can punch people in the mouth to them. Like, damn, this nigga just, I just saw that shit on TV. Was like second grade? And it sounded the same. No, this was kindergarten.

Kindergarten. Yeah. Oh, that follows you to 12th grade. Oh, yeah. You got it because it had to have been so funny. Or no, it maybe it would have, it maybe was first grade. And maybe it was first grade.

Because I remember, yeah, because we moved mid-semester type shit. So it was first grade. You had the nicest parents in the world. No, they were already planning to move. Getting out of Dodge when you embarrassed. They were already planning the move. It just lined up right. But yeah.

I got punched in the first. fucking face did you have to learn how to fight I don't think I ever did I don't think I ever did I just I just I just punch him in the mouth first yeah that's all every even if you get your ass whooped after everybody go remember you filed on them first so yeah I just took that motto anytime I felt threatened I was just punch a nigga in the mouth did it like sometimes it didn't work hard enough I mean I don't think I never I never knocked nobody out so I guess like like moving forward like what what are some like goals that you are

keep you going, like as an artist. I mean, I feel like, you know, music is something. Like I say, you can never, it's a never ending quest to get better at it. And now I understand more so, like, it's a legacy thing. Like, maybe fucking 30 years after I'm dead. Some kid is sampling my records and making hit songs out of them or whatever the fuck. So right now, I'm just making music for my legacy now. Do you listen to early records and you think, like, oh, that, like, I'm better now?

Hell yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. Are you like, that guy's in first. But it was a different way of going about making songs at that time. Yeah. How did Nas do that at 17 then? It's so weird. Just born with it, man. But then, you know, I feel like him having a jazz musician father. Yeah.

And, you know, like, you know, like, you're having a record collections in the house and they really into music. Like, that shit definitely plays a huge part. Yeah. So yeah, I like that. Like, doing the history of music, you know, like going back and, like, just really, like, figuring out records that stand in the test. of time and maybe one day I'll have a record like that. Where people still talking about like 30 years later. So instead of top five rappers, what is your five of that? Of, I mean, I have my favorite records,

I feel like five of my favorite records mainly not stood the test of time versus records that I know stood the test of time. Yeah. You know? So what would some of those be? Records that I think stand in touch, like even shit, just look at something like a Marvin Gaye what's going on.

Shit, look what the fuck going on right now. on right now you give him saying record like that sometimes when i listen to future i think that actually oh no definitely or like when i listen to like um future like blues well when i listen to like march madness he's like even like he's like in a club right and he's like on so many drugs right and his head can't like keep track it's like he keeps changing tracks and he's like damn the cops are killing people should i fuck this girl even if she's ugly you know and he's just but he's like also like Like, I'm maybe too fucked up right now and I'm super famous, but I still feel all alone.

Yeah, future is, um... It's just kind of, it is a very alienating time. It's like... Cut that, please, all of that. That is sucks. No, I understand what you're saying, because future... You know what I mean?

Future is kind of like blues music for toxic niggas that owe child support. It's true. You know, and gaslighted. It's like gaslighting for them. You know what I'm saying? But don't you buy it? When he's like, I cheated on you,

but I'm so sad. You're like, damn, he's having a ton. tough time. It really, I buy it. I'm like, wow, yeah, he really has a lot going on. Sounds like a struggle with discipline. Yeah, yeah. Well, rap used to be like when I, when we were kid, I mean, you're a little bit older than me, but when I was a kid, it was about like, I had nothing, and now I made a lot of money, and now I'm celebrating it, right? And now it's kind of like I have, I've got to the top, but I like don't trust anyone around me. Drake started that. I don't know. I think, um, I mean, I, one thing I feel like hip, hip,

pop always been rooted in and this tradition has always been originality so I like just hearing different stories and I like hearing like regional rap where you can like you've never been there before but you can close your eyes and hear him describe it and you'd be like ah that's what that's what's going on in the McNolia projects in New Orleans you know like listen to Ilmatic like that's Queens Bridge you know right so that's what I loved about rap oh even when I listen to dizzy rascal I'm like this this London Bettenham Greens you know what I'm saying yeah take me to your hood that's what I like I want to know what's

The local, no. That's like news. It's like our ghetto news. Yeah. But it ain't like that no more. Because the internet, everybody merged in, so everybody make the same sounds now, you know, it's just some regional shit everywhere. You think it's fucked up that a kid could listen to like, like Spotify, you listen to

any song ever? No, I think that's actually great, to be honest, because I know a lot of kids... Yeah. Yeah. I think that is great because a lot of kids do, could go back and do their research and do homework. I really do think that's the great part about it. But I don't know anybody... I wonder if they can get as deep, though.

I don't know. I know some, I mean, kids that are into music, they, they get in deep. I can't say, like, kids that I've known, but they all making music, though. So, they do, at some kids right now, more knowledge about old school shit to me, and I'd be like, what the fuck? Yeah, for me, it's just like, I think that, like, when I, I would go to the mall, I get one CD. Yeah, it'd be a month. Yeah. And I would just, like, I think that I needed that time to, like, just listen over and over and over again to really get something.

But these kids, I feel like you could just keep changing to, like, different things. People are on wheel? I wonder if they could, like, really just absorb it. Like, I remember me and my cousin got dark side of the moon and we were like 11 and we turned off all the lights and we pretended to be high. No. We like imagine like one day we're gonna be high.

And it worked. Yeah, I mean, I've done it before. I think everybody needs one acid trip, dark side of the moon. Oh, you've done it to dark side of the moon? On a real record. I mean, it made me appreciate it a lot more. Really? Yeah.

I like it, regular self. I didn't, I can't say it. I mean, yeah, it's definitely a different experience. I love the Floyd, dude. What's your favorite song on Dark Southern Moon? The first one. The time? No, no, time isn't the first one.

I definitely don't know the tracks. Yeah, that's time. No, no, the first track is, uh... Yeah. What is it? What is it? Read? What is it?

The way that should start. Keep going, Zach. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. That's the hardest shit. It's so sick. Best man ever, dude.

Do you remember that song? I don't want to know if you're playing me, keep that on the low. You know what song? That guy's like getting me, this is the cock anthem, bro. Yeah, that is crazy. If you listen to a lot of those songs and you just think about it, like, you'd be like, man, they tripping. I remember that one.

next street song where they're just singing about getting a boner on a dance floor which is that called like when we always grindin i get so excited oh how i like it's all about getting a boner fight it's dancing real so at the bar miss was that went crazy for me they just sing about boners just Rebecca Schwartz and the angriest boner you ever had in your entire life just like i need to fuck you yeah 13 year old boner they're singing very aggressively about getting the boner too. Like it, sighted it. Like, damn.

It's like the blue ball started kicking in. You try, but I can't fight it. You're making it hard for me. I was four niggins in a booth. What's the girls say? You making it hard for me without breaking the lab.

With your friends. Who wrote that shit, man? Honestly, it is actual. That's like songwriting genius. Yeah. What is the girl part? The girl, feel a little poke coming through. Yeah!

The girl part says, feel a little poke coming through. Oh, you. Oh, you know, I can't help it. Like that was some freaky niggas, man. R.P. has to come back. Yeah, man. Just six guys. They're trying to be too cool.

They're trying to be too cool. They want to sing about boners and shit, no more. Because we all couldn't relate to that shit. Like, yeah, I remember them bitch grinding on me. That one fucking, you got to put the mushroom under the draw band under the elastic. You got your dick on your fucking belly button. You're like, man.

Just fuck these guys, like, I'm so rich and I'm so sad. Like, that was the pure shit. You got your dick head peeking out the bushes. Yeah. 12 o'clock. Yeah. Just a little mushroom on the top. He's just up there, like, ugh.

Yeah. But how did they convince her to sing that part? I feel like, as a woman, I'd have been like, hold up man y'all niggas in here tripping she thought it was a cool song probably that's like dance that's like wetting reception i know you've like people have danced with their grandmas to that that's what i'm saying it's crazy now it's crazy you know when you really think about the cool was cutting the rug to this freak dancing for the for us boys was bar misva era and it was just our parents were there and we were just like yeah like i have a couple friends just let it go

inside the pants in detrae in detrae in detrae we had ghetto tech though so and that's like the most blatant like sex over sexually music ever so that's what I was growing up like teenagers and shit there's nothing left to the DJ assault yeah DJ assault ass and tities and shit oh he that's ass and titty's yeah that's why I that's that's in Detroit as a kid that's what we used to hear when we go to like parties and shit we didn't hear like top 40 radio it was just DJ assault mixtapes there's some holes in his house I wonder how he came up with that yeah he's amazing he has so many he's like the the kind of the

DJ Rashad of Detroit Is he like the local legend? He's a super legend, super duper legend. I mean, he was way before DJ Rashide, so I can't even say. Well, I'm just saying it's in the sense that like footwork or like Chicago. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it was more jit music

because that's what we did in Detroit was more of Jitin. So I don't know if Assad was just more about bitch holes, step up your clothes, holes, get naked. And it would just be like, not even a full sentence. And then I would just remember just being like, you know, you're in eighth grade. You're literally just humping a bitch on the ground.

You just doggy style. It's just all clothes at the fucking school homecoming, look. Y'all just in that, motherfucker. You wonder how teenage pregnancy was running rampant around that mother. Do you remember how angry the boners would get? Those are the most gift-off boners. That's what I came for. These days, I'm like, what are you?

What? You're a loser. You don't remember. I remember, especially high school. They'd be like shaking. They'd be like, ah! You don't remember. You're like super saying.

You don't remember them Terry Cloth, Aniche jogging suits and shit. Oh, the fat farms, boners in them, was insane. Well, Terry Claus is good for a mess. That's what I, that was my strip club where? Really? Yeah, fat firm. What are Detroit strip clubs like? I haven't been in over 20 years.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Were they more industrial? I mean, I would be scared. That's what shit happened at. Really? Yeah, that'd be gangster shit. It's too, I'm a bitch-ass nigga.

Did you ever, this is a stupid question, and I'm embarrassed. But did you ever have that, the eight-mile style sex ever? What's that? When he's in the factory, it was Britney Murphy. Mm-hmm. Because it was a good- I got my dick sucked in a Burger King freezer. That's pretty much the same thing.

Yeah, I guess you're right. It was the same. I was working at Burger King. It's probably romantic. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. And it was, like, my first time really getting a blowjub,

and I couldn't really respect it because it was in a cold-ass freezer. So I didn't really know the powers of- Your Own Self. I mean, I'm just saying, I wish it was in a more comfortable setting. Then I really would have been like, damn. So I didn't really, I don't really count. it because I didn't know how good it really could get. Well, my first hand, he was in the back of a girl's

parent's car and it took an hour and a half. That was great. And it was the most painful experience of my entire life. She was just like starting a fucking, like a lawnmower. She was like pulling it on. And I was like, stop. I just wish I wasn't a horny kid like that. But then I was like, I have to like come otherwise I can't call it a hand job.

So then I was like... So you were committed to the bit. Yeah. And then I bust him, I busted my face. Oh, shit. Yeah. My first hand job, I busted my own damn face. I mean. After an hour and a half of just fucking pain. Yeah, definitely.

I'm sure that would happen. Humiliating. I know her full name and I want to say it. But you know where you are in your parents' infinity. That's crazy. It's so funny. The only part, like not having money sucks. Oh.

But getting girl, like the girl part is. kind of like the one thing that was kind of a little bit fun. What do you mean? It was like a video game. Well, it was just like I had a, I remember I was so, I had no money. And so I said, well, you know, all guys take you out to like a, to like a restaurant or a bar. And I didn't, like, have them money for it. So I was like, why don't I cook for you?

And I had this like spaghetti bowl and is that I priced down to like $7.30. See, this is different cultures going on right now. So then I make her this heavy meat sauce spaghetti. but I would buy ground turkey which was cheaper than ground beef and then I realized years later I'd know I realized that it's got like that fucking

it's not they didn't go to sleep or anything but it's like a drip to fan and I was like I was making like in retrospect it was like a light it wasn't no I'm come on it's not I know they nothing like that happened but it was like you shouldn't make give a girl a sleepy meal

you know it's just not the right thing to do but it was affordable it was an affordable sleepy but I was like it's in retrospect I'm like turkey does is asleep it's not Cosby I'm not Cosby mm-hmm but yeah see Matt I don't know and I was broke I was moving mountains I know so I should have done that I should have on that rap yeah put the dick on the track you've conquered a be a beast no never felt like that it never felt like that I it just felt like a because you know doing something you really don't want to do and I feel like anytime you're doing

something like that you're not gonna feel but didn't you think that you're being like you're giving them a nut like the plet you're being a nice guy to them yeah to the mountains like charity yeah and they were like thank you I don't know because they'd be like he didn't pull back up wait they those they they insulted you afterwards I mean they they want you to come back oh they want you to come back yeah yeah I don't know if I can do it I don't I don't know if I could do it. Yeah.

And then you hit rock bottom and then you're like... Yeah, then you're like, bro. That's the worst walk on the way to the round two. No, the round two of that. I caught the bus over there that bitch, Chris. The bus. At the bus stop coldest hell leaving. Like, what the fuck I got going on in my life?

Oh, in the Detroit week. Yeah, you're just looking up the window on the bus. Like, man, what have I done with my life? Just staring down Grand River, like... This is the misogyny episode. I love it. I'm having such a good time. having such a good time and don't get me started on their stories that can they go i'm not like

that no more i'm definitely a change man i meditate 30 minutes a day now me too i used to be like that too so i've you know that was my 20s man i feel like once i got like of a of age to my frontal lobe was developed yeah i'm still i'm still i didn't make those choices because i could think about shit i used to do man i'd be like i can't believe i'm definitely no i can't believe i even thought about doing shit like that no but you live you learn bro yeah yeah Yeah, definitely. Definitely. I'm so happy now. When you look at Patrick, can you tell, like, do you have, like, a sense of, like, how many times he said the word when it was in a song? No, I'd like he paused.

What? He looked like he paused. He's gay? What? No, he'll pause on that part, then continue on. He looks like a pauser. What about Zach over here? How many times is, you have, like, a sense of how many times?

Roughly 56. Is that? He's Jewish. Roughly a 56. But just why he's in the shower or something. In the shower, yeah. And then he's still going to, oh shit. It's so funny.

It's like masturbating, right? It is like locking your door. Why are y'all so obsessed with saying that word? In the song, because it looks so cool. I know. Put it down, I have found myself. I've never done it. I do say nigger a lot, but it's almost like a,

it's like a cis. It's like a sys. Yeah, yeah. It's like a pass. No, I'm talking about winning words. Like, because you can fit another word there, but it just rolls so great into another word. It just like, in rhyme form.

When a, when a black guy calls me that, it feels like flying. Because sometimes I'll be like, hold up. I'd be like, hold up, man. It ain't enough niggas in here. Let me throw some niggas in this bitch. Well, I agree. There aren't enough. On my third draft, on my third draft, I dropped some old niggas in there.

But this new album I actually made, I don't, I don't know. actually made I don't really even cuss that much it's very it's I it wasn't done on purpose though but then now this stuff like damn I'm probably cussed is it you think cussing is hack no definitely not it just came out that way no it's easier I think I think I think I you know what it is it's rhyming cuss words is hack yeah so if you bitch shit anytime you do that yeah yeah yeah duck you could ride with fuck but if you He said fuck twice. You write, have you ever, have you ever, fuck with fuck?

No, but I've rhymed, I do rhyme twice shit. Rhyme twice is fun if it's an emphasis on time. Cameron is like the best ever. He's the best in it. He created that shit, Connor, you know. I love the watch. Trying. It's great, dude.

Yeah, I'm trying. She moves to New York and chill with- Fuck no, it's too cold. And I would get fat. Why would you get fat? It's just, because it's, you can get whatever you want at any time of day. Like, I'm not trying to eat child. cheese is at 4 a.m. But you want to be around those people? I mean,

where I'm at, where I'm at, it's more of a communal situation. They don't even like me ordering Uber Eats in my neighborhood. Really? They don't even want like outside motherfuckers hanging out over there. Oh, you're like a hippie commune situation? It's more, it's like a hill country. Hill country. Yeah. Hill people. I guess, yeah. It's real communal. It's really, I really like it. I go to the market. They want you to, it's all like only local shops. Really? So yeah. You wave at your neighbor? Hey. I mean, you got to. Jeff. Everybody just drive golf carts.

Do you do a nod? No, we kick it. They pull up. That motherfuckers talk. Because they, like I say, they want to know who you are. You living over here, hold up. They're in your business. Yeah, yeah.

You know, so it's fun. Who's your favorite one in the neighborhood? In my neighborhood. Oh, I got a, it's a lady up the street from Michigan. Oh, she's dope. Yeah, so, you know, she always invite me over to watch the Lions game and shit, but I like to smoke and shit, so. She doesn't like you smoking in there?

I wouldn't say that, I just don't even want to bring it up. Really, she's like a mom. Like, I can't just sit there much football without, you know, with a blunt, you know. Why don't you just ask her, why don't you, why don't you, why do you ask her if she blazes? But I'm not the biggest football fan. I like watching football if I'm betting on it.

I'm more of a basketball. Yeah. And they, they're not basketball people. Maybe you should get all these motherfuckers just. But they do though, like, like in the summer, they were watching like the Stanley Cup. Finals and shit on like a big-ass projector. Oh, in the neighborhood?

Yeah, just outside. Everybody just hanging out watching them. Do they know you're a famous rapper? Yeah. Yeah. And they think that's cool? I mean... That should make you the most popular guy.

I'm definitely like the youngest. It's like... So you're living with... It's like 60% over 60 years old. You're living with 60-year-old hill people. Yeah. And you're like, Jeff? Mm-hmm.

Yep. They're real passive aggressive, too. Really? Yeah. You'd be fucking up. You're the only black guy? Yeah. Yeah.

Really? I think so. You got green-ass hair? Yeah, they like it. Really? They're like, look at this hippie over there. Yeah, they always be like, yeah. But you know, Austin is kind of like that.

It's keep Austin weird type shit, so I fit in. Yeah. Well, like I say, I'm more, I'm literally like maybe an hour from downtown Austin. Oh, so you're in the sticks? Yeah, like I said, a hill country. You got a gun? Hell yeah. What kind of gun do you have?

I got a staccato. What does that sound? That sounds like music to me. I mean, staccato. It's very expensive. It's really fused for like Olympic shooters and shit like that. It's like one of those type of professional shooting guns.

That's why I don't hear rappers rap about it, because they cost too much. You never heard anybody say, don't got the staccato. But they like talking about expensive things. They don't buy, they talk about the cheapest guns, though. They do. The worst guns. That's a flex.

Yeah. Who's the biggest dickhead in rap that you've ever met? What's the definition of dickhead? I don't know. No, just being a dickhead. Like being mean? Yeah, being mean. Probably mean.

Really? Are you mean to other rappers? It was a time. You're like Patrice O'Neill? Yeah, definitely. You're like, you're a fucking bitch. I definitely have. I really look up to Patricia O'Neill, though.

How did you do that? Like, how did you, like, how did you act mean to them? Like, how did you establish dominance like that? Just get drunk as fuck and say the first thing to kind of your head. You'd be like you suck it rap. Yeah. Yeah. You're a bitch.

Yeah. Is there someone you've had to have. I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to, uh. Is there some, what, have you made amends? I mean, I made amends, whatever, you know, once you get sober, you gotta, you gotta do that thing. You gotta, like, hit up Drake and be like, I think you're a good guy, actually.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, not Drake, I never met Drake or anything. You've never met him? We gotta chill with him. Yeah. It's so incredible, he got to be famous. How is that? Oh, because he gives all you, all you Jewish guys.

It's our dream. Hope. It's our number one. dream. It was so meaningful to me. What about Jack Harlow? He's Jewish? I mean, oh. I don't know. I don't know how to do you. Look at him knowing everyone who's Jewish. No, he's not Jewish. He's not on my list. Okay. Shind Liz. Who are some Jewish rappers? Mm, Bob Dylan, technically. Yeah. I can say Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan had some bars. Yeah, yeah. Subterranean. I don't know. We shouldn't. We should. We should.

shouldn't talk about Jewish anymore okay I don't want to talk about it anymore I'm sick of it mm-hmm I wish I could quit I looked at four-skin reattachment you know why would you want to do that because the the BB was being such an ass if you can do that though apparently but you don't regain it ain't gonna get all the sensitivity it'd be cool if I got a different color I guess I guess you could imagine if I had a different color at the end helmet you can You can get the style, a different style.

Different style. You can get a style, like, pick your... Switch your shit up. Yeah, like, go hoodie or turtleneck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You can be like... You can get, like, you know what I'm saying?

You want to leave the extra skin right here, you know? Yeah, yeah. Get a little... I'm all down for dick surgery, man. Yeah. I'm all down with it. I'm too scared. Like, if I don't give a fuck, if I get to like 60,

like, fuck it just give me the long dong silver. Yeah, yeah. And just stay hard all the time. Yeah, yeah. You get full hard. I don't got to have no feeling in it. Yeah, yeah. I don't even have to bust.

That's the only reason why I work out. Really? It's just to be able to fuck when I'm in my 60s. Yeah, it's true. Because I did realize, like, I would always think that, like, if you can't have sex anymore, you should. That's why you see old people when they be angry all the time and me, because they ain't fucking. They got the, you could just take a thing, though. But, no, I mean, yeah, but it's all about your physical prowess.

Yeah, but my grandma is doing unspeakable things. You know, like, I told you, he'll. These hill country, these motherfuckers, oh, and in shape. So you think that they're having key parties? They definitely getting freaky. Yeah, really. And they're judging your ass for being a rapper. No, they don't judge me.

They like that shit. They like, because they're like, man, he's cool. Yeah. You know? And then they know, like, they know how I got sober and all that kind of shit. So they're impressed. Yeah. I mean, they just, they know I'm not partying.

I don't know wild shit. Yeah. Oh, it's cool. Jeff? I mean, because, you know, I guess a rapper moved to your neighborhood. You think he's going to be having parties. shit or something. I don't know. Yeah, but freakoffs, perhaps, baby oil.

I mean. Were you ever invited? I was never that cool. You were, it was cool to, I agree. I don't think I was cool enough for the free call. I would have been like I've made, I did it. You know? I'm freak off level now. Yeah. I'm white party. I mean, you got to, sometimes you got to do shit for the story. Yeah, of

course. Yeah. Did you know that stuff was happening? Fuck no, but I was definitely, um, entertained by the trial. Yeah, it was pretty good. Yeah, I was tapped in. What was your favorite, what was your favorite little moment? I'm just, I mean, to be honest, like the way it all started out and how much was said and what the allegation, like, you know, like you thought it was way more like crazier than

just to find out he was just hiding behind curtains and a hijab jacking off squirting baby all that motherfuckers, you know what I'm saying? We thought it was like huge orgies with all famous people and politicians, but no, this nigger was just jerking off and hijab squirting all on niggas. This is basically like... Yeah, now you're doing fine. That's the worst jail time. If you filmed that, that's jackass for, you know?

Now you can go to jail for it? But, I mean, he was beating on bitches and shit. Yeah, that was not good. So, no. But what they said, what the jerked off baby... What the rumors was that was happening versus what was presented in the courtroom is two different worlds. Well, I heard that he was having sex with the dad from...

Yeah, like all these rumors. Dad from Urquil Show. Yeah, and then, Carl Winslow. T.D. Jakes and all that shit, like, but it was none of that. It was none of that when you heard it. He's just hiring. So he didn't have sex with Carl Winslow? I don't know.

I don't know, but I'm saying that wasn't in the trial. None of that shit was. Go home, Steve. Imagine walking out of them and he goes, go home, Steve. That's like for the shit, Urquil. Carl Winslow, imagine Carl Winslow, don't, ain't never met Diddy in his motherfucking life. He's just chilling at the crib. And all of a sudden, he just look up.

Everybody talking about he fucked, Diddy fucked him. He's like, what the fuck. What fuck is going on right here, man. You're giving them saying, niggas believe it. And motherfuckers believe it or shit. Like, you still,

if that shit happened year, like, people that room have been out. What I'm just saying? Like, I feel bad for him. You gotta have some sympathy for the guy. Like,

he ain't like, he's like, he's like him crazy A-list actor. Like, he's working all the time. Who knows if you're trying to get new jobs and shit now? Like,

he's like, man, I've been doing auditions. They're thinking I fucking did he at the freakoffs. Like, who came up with that. It's like, it's such a random guy. That's what I'm saying.

That's why I feel bad for him. Because I don't believe that shit. I don't believe that shit, man. I don't believe that shit, man. I don't believe that shit. No, man. It's so easy to believe anything you're told these days. Yeah.

Especially after hearing the trial. Did he ain't fucking. I'm just saying, I feel, just imagine Carl Winslow just chilling at the crib and you just on Twitter. Like, oh. Hish Minson just started going crazy. He's getting memes and shit. He's like, oh, it's not true. Like, that kind of shit, make my motherfuckers jump off bridges and shit, man.

I'm so not like I feel bad like that's why I'm off social media that's why I'm done with that shit man I don't want to know and then just imagine if you is a motherfucker that's off social media you ain't watching if you don't even know these allegations is out here then you you just hanging out at your pole like niggas looking at you crazy like everybody giving me the one-n-eye like what's going on somebody just say somebody get bold and say some weird shit to you you like what the fuck is going on people are like snickering looking at you?

Yeah. Be like, come on, dude. That's amazing. That's why I hate the internet. Yeah, I hate it too. And no one does any fact checking to find out. Ain't nobody checked on their home. There's a lot of nice things.

Check in on Carl, see how he doing, man. All right, if he wants to come on the show. I definitely, he do need to speak his part. He needs to say something. I think maybe that's why it's still lingering like this, because he ain't never really addressed it. We need to hear from him. Is he still living?

I hope so. Imagine if he did. And then the niggas just started saying, you fuck did he? In my dust with my legacy now. Danny Brown, everyone. The new album to talk Star Dush. Thank you, brother. You're best.

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