The Adam Friedland Show (Cumtown) - G HERBO | Drill Music, Trauma, Giving Back

Episode Date: July 23, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What happens if you're born like on the east side where you're from and you're a nerd you're just a fucking nerd What if you suck at basketball you can't rap great question. What if you're bad at school a nerd in don't ugly small dick What do you do damn that's a good question, what do you do ah? Fuck I was just about to say that that's what crazy kill yourself cuz you got a small peepee No, don't do that. No, I don't have this talking about me. It's 20 25 They got surgeries and all type of shit have something like that. At least I have my hair Welcome to the Adam Friedland Show, I'm your host Adam Friedland show. I'm your host Adam Friedland.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Guys, as always, I'd like to start by thanking our members here on youtube.com. If you'd like to support the work we're doing here at TAPS, you can become a member by clicking the link in the description of this video or by clicking join at the top of this page. You'll get early access to all of our videos and for the second and third tiers, you'll get your name in the credits. And we also have a Patreon if you'd like to join through Patreon.
Starting point is 00:01:35 I also wanna take a moment to recognize the people that work here at the Adam Friedland Show. Since the end of January, they've worked tirelessly and I marvel at their commitment. They've willingly sacrificed marriages, they've cut off friends and family, and they've all given me access to their locations on Find My Friends 24 hours a day. They've offered shoulders to cry on, hands to massage my aches and pains, and even part of their salaries when the credit collectors come a-knockin'. Thanks to them, I am now proudly student loan free.
Starting point is 00:02:08 But I've realized in recent weeks that they have needs as well. So I've made a decision to give them two weeks of time off, unpaid of course, where they can pick up the pieces and try to repair some of the damage they've done to their personal lives. Voluntarily, might I add. So after this week, we will be back the second week of August and every week thereafter until
Starting point is 00:02:33 President Donald Trump gets the justice that he deserves. My guest this week is the multi-platinum certified recording artist, G Herbo. As a teenager growing up in Chicago, he rose to prominence alongside artists like Chief Keef and Lil Dirk, trailblazing a movement that would later explode globally, drill music. These artists made a name for themselves online, recording and uploading their own music and shooting their own videos, painting unfiltered pictures of the harsh realities that they were living through. In recent years, Herb has become a vocal advocate for mental health in his community, and spoken candidly about having PTSD and Survivors' Guilt, and the emotional toll of growing up
Starting point is 00:03:14 around violence and loss. Now obviously on the surface, it seems like Herb and I have a lot in common. We're both hip hop heads. We both go to therapy. We're both beloved artists. But what I found challenging was relating to his upbringing. I've never been shot by a gun. I've never even had a broken bone. The only injury I've ever sustained is a broken heart. But then I discovered the G Herbo app. Everything I ever wanted to know about Herb in one simple location.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I spent hours scrolling through the posts and comments, gaining insight into Herb's life through his personal videos. And as you'll see in the interview, my research really paid off. What can I say? We clicked. Which is why I've taken the liberty
Starting point is 00:04:04 of creating an app of my own, the G Herbo and Adam Friedland app. For the first time ever you can keep up with rapper G Herbo and talk show host Adam Friedland simultaneously. The app also includes features like a world map, a personal notepad, and a calculator function. So you can download now through the link in our description. And a big thanks to G Herbo for giving me this great idea. So without further ado, here's our conversation. So guys, like it's a talk show, like for real.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Imagine we're at the Tonight Show, and you guys are people that are tourists in Times Square that got free tickets. So it'll be fun everyone's ready we're excited you guys are so good to you. That's my cue? No no yeah we'll keep that in the episode though. Ladies and gentlemen he is perhaps on the Mount Rushmore Chicago drill rappers I'm so excited to introduce G Herobot, everyone. Everyone, please welcome him.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Thank you so much. Sure. I'm so excited. My brother. I'm so glad you're having me, bro. You're, I guess, I guess you're the third rapper. I mean, if you count Chet Hanks, Tom Hanks' son, you're the fourth rapper that's been on the show.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Tom Hanks got a son that rapped? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh wow. Well I think he did rap, now he's a country music star. And one of my best friends, I think. I want to start off, I gotta pay tribute. We had Jadakiss on the show. Oh shit, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:39 I paid tribute. And I don't want you to feel like, it has to be equal, right, to goats. Any goat that comes on the show, it has to be. I appreciate that, I appreciate that. I also know Kiss is one of your guys. Yeah, for sure. He's on your Mount Rushmore, so I got you. Oh. I got you some 42.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Drink champs, drink champs. Yes sir. Yes sir. I appreciate that, brother. Drink champs, drink champs. Yes sir. Yes sir. I appreciate that brother. Drink champs. I appreciate that. Yeah yeah, that's for you. And I also got you.
Starting point is 00:06:11 For sure. I don't know if you've had these Herb, but these are from Trader Joe's. These are the peanut butter milk chocolate cups. If you haven't had them, they're gonna knock your socks off. Say less. So these are for me too.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Well, Kiz didn't get those. 42 and peanut butter cups. Kiz actually didn't get those. Oh, Kiz didn't get these. He didn't get the cups, but he got the 42. Say less, say less. Wait, you want to do a L'chaim? Should we do a L'chaim? Yeah, come on, it's five o one of those. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm Jewish. Yeah, we could we could toast this is Yeah, I mean I just do a toast with me broth, of course I've seen the mugs These are the Adam Friedland show mugs. You can take one back to Los Angeles. Okay, of course You're excited mostly about the mug. This is 42. This is what This is one of the side. I'm excited about the mug and is 42 this is what I'm excited about the mug and the 42 though bro but I fuck with the mug. Yeah am I the first you really am I the first
Starting point is 00:07:10 Jewish guy that's interviewed you? I believe so. That feels great. If you're not the first you're definitely the coolest. I'm gonna put well I mean that's not hard I'm the first am I the first 38 year old Jewish guy? Probably so. I do a bunch of research for the interviews and like you know I'm as a Jewish boy like full disclosure like we all grew up listening to hip-hop and then you gotta go G-Fazos too though like exactly I gotta put a pair of G-Fazos. Do you own a pair? I was gonna get a pair of Tru ease for this Should have got the cheap keep collab I should have got you had a huge Polo horse that's how we used to dress in high school
Starting point is 00:07:52 Polo big Argentina or like the country polo whichever one like Italy is some shit true religious White ones and call them G face over who was it what Keith invented that or who put that on? it was always like the Chicago culture of how to dress but I and call him G-Fazzo. What, Keef invented that or who put that on? It was always like the Chicago culture of how to dress, but I would say yeah, Sosa definitely like, you know, he was like one of the first, well not one of the first, he was the first teenager that was like rich, so he was having like flavors of this shit
Starting point is 00:08:20 and it was cool to dress that way. Yeah, yeah. Next time you come on the show, this is a part one, I will have full true II Jean Jack I need to see this shit. I will have the Canadian tuxedo. I got it I will have it and I'll have like a belt buckle and I'll take a picture like this I got a showing the book the buckle buckle though. You gotta have like a Ferragamo belt buckle That's what we used to a ferricon Ferragamo ferricon the Reverend
Starting point is 00:08:46 Hermes Hermes that's what we used to a ferricon Ferragamo the Reverend Hermes Hermes that's the get the H get the H. You were a hoop of grown-up? Yeah a little. Were you nice? A little. You were a combo guard? Yep. You were a two? Yeah. Yeah yeah. You had court vision though? Yeah. I was like any team I play on I'm like the Dreymon green of that team. Punch you guys in the penis? What do you mean? What is it? Don't say that about yourself. The energy, the aggression, for real.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Dreymon is a key component on his team or any team he goes to. I was talking to Blake Griffin about it. Blake I'm gonna tell you the truth. No, no, yeah I don't like you gotta say pause when you say this you from saying like so absolute. Yeah. Yeah, so my little brother, right? He played basketball too. He was positive me. Oh, sorry, I was better wrong time But he got like a trick or like he got from his cousin pause I swear like it was a trick they used to get stick like if somebody go for the layup no homo you like they used to like swap him on his shit like hit him on the balls like swapping the ball then they lose the ball now you got a free steal if they don't call it like
Starting point is 00:09:55 they used to really do that that's some Draymond shit though like absolutely yeah I think it's dishonorable I think that's a very dishonorable I think it's a pause. I think that's a very Six grade seventh grade that was like a way to get a quick steal Nut tapping was a big thing in sixth grade. Yeah, and niggas been getting fights for that shit, too I wouldn't fight a guy if he nut tapped me while I was just Posting a poster on him, which I've done so many. I'm sure have you're in the UVM Have you have you have you done have you don't yeah man feet I got two left feet though I'm gonna be honest like I know athletic if I'm saying there's a video of Derek Rose doing
Starting point is 00:10:34 Chicago footwork knows when he was in high school no it's not I'll get my cell phone it's the best video I've ever seen actually anybody ever seen that video anybody else please please you ain't see that I'm getting it right now It's the best video I've ever seen. Actually, somebody get my cell phone. Anybody ever seen that video? Anybody out there? Please. You ain't seen that video. I'm getting it right now. It's actually pissing me off. I need to see it.
Starting point is 00:10:50 You know nothing of Chicago. You got these shots just sitting here, too, bro. You know nothing of Chicago. Oh, shots? OK, we'll do the shots and watch the video. It's my favorite video on YouTube. Where's my phone? My favorite thing of D-Rose was the picture of him in the
Starting point is 00:11:06 party throwing the rakes up. I can't believe it. Rapper problems, man. You know nothing of Chicago. No, this is the better one, because I just died here. Right. Here, let me see this shit. He's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Hear that, D-Rose? That's not D-Rose bro. That's not fucking D-Rose. You're a liar. You're an artist. D-NSD-Rose? Yeah, look how incredible he is. Oh, what's D-Rose here, real bass? D-NSD-Rose, wait.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Bro, that's not the Rose Oh shit the rose here the bitches Not the rose head and bitches for real There's more famous people yeah like Chicago like if you know how to forward you was the dead guy He didn't want no system part. He had a Motorola commercial all off of Ford. Are we gonna do this? So how's it gonna be? Give a toast?
Starting point is 00:12:12 L'chaim. L'chaim, my man. Alright. Ah, drink it! That is really good. That is really good. I literally did the same thing with Kiss. So I kind of want to avoid in talking about, I just want to talk to you about yourself.
Starting point is 00:12:28 I don't want to give a taxonomy of Chicago. I guess I started like, your family, who your parents were, your siblings. Did your parents play music in the house? What was the first music you heard? My mom, she listened to a lot of music. Like she played house music. I think that's why I'm so well-rounded because my mom didn't listen to rap growing up.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Like Frankie Knuckles? Frankie Beverly. Really? Chicago House. Yeah, like Sade. My mother's favorite artist is like Seal. She played a lot of Shaman Rinks in the house. Shit like that. I know what an artist like.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Sharon. Have you seen a picture of Shadda in 2025? No. She's an 11 still. Yeah. She looks perfect. I bet. She's one of the most, she's incredible.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Yeah, Shadda is. I was just about to say that to the point that I was gonna say, well, she's doing good. She looks perfect, yeah. Yes. Pause for a second. Where's having an audio issue? My mic.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Let me just take my shirt off. You're missing. You missed all of that? No, it's fine. It's audio issue? My mic. Let me just take my shirt off. You missed all of that? No, it's fine. Just let me take off my shirt. No, come on, pause. No, let's just do this. That's crazy. Let's just do this.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Thomas, what are you doing? I can't believe this guy. You're sexually harassing our guest. Herb, you're wearing too much jewelry. I really kept it light. I ain't got, this is a light day? Yes. Does it hurt your neck ever to wear too much jewelry?
Starting point is 00:13:45 With the charms, when I got on like, when I used to wear a lot of charms, I used to wear like four charms at one time and it hurt your neck. It's impractical. Cause they'd drag it down, you would have like, you know, a little, like it's pinching in the back of your neck and shit.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Yeah, really. But these like, these, I could wear these. I never, I never really wear jewelry, it's not my thing. We could go maybe to just fuck it up. Yeah. You know, where do you go, who's your guy? The icebox? I got, like see me, I've literally bought
Starting point is 00:14:17 at least one chain from every jeweler. Every single jeweler. Oh, very political, very political. Exactly. Very political, it's a Hebraic thought. So it's like when I get in the mall I might some shit from here like this all came from Benny the jeweler But I'm going to read from icebox shine Treasures, Eliante cuz you're nice. You're a nice guy. You name it man. Yeah show everybody look that's so nice of you
Starting point is 00:14:39 But it involves you spending a lot of money on that. Yeah, yeah, so that's kind of a no It involves you spending a lot of money on that. Absolutely. Yeah. So that's kind of annoying. I guess so your mom was in Chicago. How's it going about your dad? My dad, he listened to like, my dad is more of a like, he like Nas and like shit like that.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Golden era 93 New York. Like big and shit. He used to listen to a lot of like Public Enemy, KRS-1, Big Daddy Kane, he old school. Yeah. What do you think about like the old, you know, when it was like, Jacobi Nimble, Jacobi Queen. Yeah. Is that-
Starting point is 00:15:15 Fuck, what's that fucking- Like when did they start talking about- When was that? The Shea was up the hills and hills. Were there guys trying to like- Oh shit. At a party, trying to finger pop a girl to like a nursery rhyme song?
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah, that's what hip hop came from, originated. And then people just- But I listen to all that hippity dippity shit. I mean I- Sometimes. But it's not as cool, right? No, no, no. It's kind of, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:38 That's interesting you said your dad likes East Coast stuff because I feel like when your generation of Chicago guys were becoming well known around the country, it was interesting to see, oh what does this sound like, right? And I heard, when I first heard Chief Heaf, I was like, oh this is like, it sounds like Atlanta, like Atlanta trap music, right? But you always sounded like the guy that was more influenced by the East Coast. Absolutely. And especially like the way you rap too.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I fell in love with like, kind of like, I mean, my first vivid memories of falling in love with hip hop was like, the first song that I used to love when I was a kid, probably like two, three years old, like, I got five, even though that's not East Coast, but that and then the second, like probably like 98, 99, like three, four years old, one of my favorite songs was Jay-Z, What's My Name, Jigga, like that was a song, like those are like songs that kind of made me fall in love with hip hop as far back as I can remember. Growing up, when I started to like want to rap and fall in love with hip-hop as far back as I can remember. Growing up when I started to like wanna rap and fall in love with music it was like Jaded Kiss, Juel Santana, it was all East Coast shit though. Other than Wayne.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Other than Wayne. He's incredible. Yeah you told me he was friends with Jaded Kiss. I'm really close, we're close. I be hollering at Kiss too though, we talk about a lot of real shit. He's a really nice guy. He's so funny too. He gives me a lot of like insight on just how good I am, basically. You know, I'm a humble dude, but Kiss tells me I'm really that. How's that feel? It feels amazing. How great?
Starting point is 00:17:15 It must feel incredible. For sure. Every time I have a conversation with him, it's just he gives me that little boost of confidence to let me know I'm really one of those when it come to like MCing. Yeah respect to your peers is like yeah if so if a good comic says good set it feels like it's money. Really? Yeah it feels incorrect well no it's never happened no one's ever even got it no bad comic. Can I come to one of your shows? Yeah, you'd love it. I'm sure I will. I'm very influenced by Bruce Bruce, Earthquake.
Starting point is 00:17:48 For real? No. But I grew up actually... Can you tell me your top three like, comedians right now? Right now? Like growing up, what influenced you to be a comedian? I mean, when I was a kid, I liked like Adam Sandler a lot. Yeah. What about Jerry Seinfeld?
Starting point is 00:18:05 I loved the show Seinfeld was I did you grow up watching Seinfeld? A little bit. You did? It's what do you think about it? Adam Sandler is one of my favorite comedians as well. So we're like the same guy? Like actors too. I mean he's the best. Yeah, I liked Adam Sandler I liked like yeah, I liked Borad a lot when I was in. Borad. I love Borad. That was the funniest movie I've ever seen. I love Borad. I used to watch Borad with when I was a borat. I was the funniest movie I've ever seen I love Borat. I used to watch Borat with my mom Oh, I watched with my mom too. Yeah, my mom used to go like this We went to the theater and she went like this and she said I'm gonna pee I'm gonna pee
Starting point is 00:18:34 I'm gonna pee she kept saying that yeah, it was a very sweet thing. Nah, I'm not gonna lie I literally I could call my mom right now like my mom like dark humor So like Borat was like the shit. Yeah, that's growing up. You're you you're a mom's boy Me too. Yeah, she was my favorite. Yeah, we had the same sense of humor to I like me my mom I'm too like yeah me and my mom kind of like Don't get me wrong. We are like a mother-son relationship, but it's kind of like a brother-sister as well Yeah, mom is like one of my closest friends. Just because we both know that she likes us better than him and she had to settle for him but if she had a choice it would
Starting point is 00:19:10 have been us and we're her perfect man. My dad used to be jealous he used to say shit like that like I wish I was G Herbo's mom. That's like it's like some Freudian that's like, it's like Freudian. That's like, yeah, it's just strictly like you're trying to like dunk on your father. I mean, we have very similar upbringing. I can't help it. I'm just that guy, bro. He was like, I saw an interview with you where you said you wished he was more strict. No, I wish he was less strict.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Less strict. Yes. But I wish he was more like, what I meant, not Yeah. But I wish he was more like what I meant not even strict I wish he was more like hands-on with what I was doing early on. Yeah. Like my dad gave me a lot of like he was strict coming up as to how he wanted me to be but as I started to like grow into my own personality and being a young man he kind of like fell back and just let me like do whatever. I wish he would have been a little more hands-on with just like wanting to be involved with the shit I was doing yeah did were you good at school I was smart it sounds
Starting point is 00:20:13 like you're smart yeah I was very smart I was really smart but I got in a lot of trouble though like in school yeah just being a knucklehead mischievous and shit but I was really really smart. I always got good grades Yeah, and did you you graduated high school? I got my diploma, but I dropped out when I was like a sophomore because you're rich Because you did a song with Nicki Minaj at 17. Yeah, I was making a lot of money in high school But I was I was dumb. I was spinning that shit, bro. I wasn't saving it. Well, that's what kids do I was fucking it up. No, but you retired your mom. I did. Yeah, so like always
Starting point is 00:20:48 Yeah, I always been like a a hustler always made it happen, but I wasn't like yeah I didn't have financial literacy in a way if I must say when I want another When I like like read like what it was because obviously here's the thing is like the first Chicago rap I heard was Chief Keef right and don't like yeah the first like I remember the don't like video. Were you a fan though? I must ask. It blew my mind because it's like you know what rap is right? For me it was like I like when I was a junior in high school, my Ethiopian friend, he burned me the Collins dropout. And I was like, oh, this guy's a nerd.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I was like, this guy isn't talking about killing people. And I was like, this is the first nerd. I don't think any artist in Chicago did that until our era. Until your era. Yeah, if you think about it. Well, the interesting thing is that there's a documentary about Kanye Kanye I brought it up before on
Starting point is 00:21:47 the show but like as much as they were like listen you make the best beats you like basically made the blueprint and but you're like a nerd dude you like you can't be a rapper and he's like I want to be a rapper I want to be a rapper I want to be a rapper but half of it was like a guy from Chicago can't be a rapper. Absolutely, before Kanye, nobody made it like, cheers. Cheers, yeah. So like, this is like a controversial question. Nobody crossed over into that global superstardom in Chicago before Kanye.
Starting point is 00:22:21 The biggest artist to come out of Chicago before Kanye was like Twista and Common, you know what I'm saying? But it didn't, it wasn't that national, international attention, you know what I'm saying? Like until Ye and then Sosa. But even when Ye came out, it didn't bring a spotlight to Chicago, you know? Like even with Ye being Ye and the shit that he did, which was legendary of course, but it didn't put a magnifying glass on Chicago like, oh, they got talent here. It wasn't until Sosa came out and did what he did, it was like, oh, it's talent in Chicago. Like, that's when, you know, like when Sosa came out, it was a wave of artists that became
Starting point is 00:23:00 superstars. Nobody became a superstar after Ye. If I'm not mistaken somebody could correct me if I'm wrong until Sosa if I'm I believe. I think you're I guess because all of us like consequence yeah Jay Ivy I'm trying to think of the guys the features on those early records. No they wasn't like yeah he wasn't he put his boys on that he definitely did for sure like the GLC all those guys he definitely put his team on but it didn't bring like you know it's like real attention to Chicago like
Starting point is 00:23:30 right me Sosa dirt you guys really like chance that's all one error we all came up at one time so I can't really say it was a big gap in between that yeah I guess um I guess yeah it it blew my mind there there have been a couple times because I've like always like like rap but like there've been a couple times where I'm like this is a new thing. Yeah. It's like when I saw don't like I was like there's no girls in this video. Yeah yeah. I was like there's no slut. I was like it's all guys. There's no sluts. I'm like, where are the sluts? It's supposed to be that they're rich and they get pussy.
Starting point is 00:24:09 We didn't have no evictions. And there were no girls. And they're not wearing shirts. And they're boys. They're just boys. They're just getting pussy, though. We just wasn't broadcasting it. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And from the outside looking in, I think, if I had to think from the outside looking in, because I can't say that because I was a part of it. Yeah. I think just the world and all is seeing a hundred niggas doing drugs, having guns and shit in the video. It was like, it was like, what the fuck are they doing? Yeah, to be kids, like 15, 16 years old.
Starting point is 00:24:42 And they're like, what the fuck is this? People just couldn't believe it. It was like that. Have you seen City of God? Yeah, I be kids like 15 16 years old and like what the fuck is this like people just couldn't believe it It was like that. Have you seen City of God that yeah I love it's like the little kids at the end of the movie that kill you Yeah, we spent yeah, we like this is like there. This is it felt like that I was like, where's the furniture in the apartment? It looks completely empty. I was like what's going But I'm Chicago shit, bro. I can't believe this shit. You really bringing back a lot of memories by you saying it.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Who was like, who were the adults? Like, who were the, who was like getting you licensing deals and stuff? There was no, like, I mean, don't get me wrong. It was the adults around, but I'm saying that like, the influence behind what we was doing, it just wasn't there. We was just like young, like, like of God just like young badass rebel kids just doing
Starting point is 00:25:30 shit but the few adults that we did have around played a significant role whereas like if we didn't have those guys shit probably wouldn't not have like worked or been what it was like right you, like I had guys like Mickey around, like Soulhead guys like pan around and shit like that to just like, all right, let me try to, you know, organize this shit a little bit and like navigate when, you know, I'm saying they could actually make some of it because I already think we knew what we was doing. All we really gave a fuck for real, for real. We was just like dropping music, hey whatever money we make is cool, we gonna put this shit back in the hood
Starting point is 00:26:06 and just thug it out for the rest of our life. I think that's what all our mindsets was at the time. Did you have like a notion of like, what the audience was, right? Because it was all, there was like Twitter, you'd like tweet, I'm gonna, I hate this guy. And then you do a YouTube video where you do a song about hating someone
Starting point is 00:26:25 Yeah, and then there's it's getting millions of views and then but it affects your real life Yeah, right, but people are getting killed absolutely, you know But like there's an audience for it Like did you have a notion of like that people were consuming it outside of Chicago and that you're performing it? That's the thing you do know like we did that like for like our neighborhood and the people in Chicago to know like alright but this is we on, we the guys over here in this neighborhood we weren't thinking about like New York and LA and what they culture was and the other fucking 45 states in the country like yeah we're not thinking about that we weren't thinking because the internet
Starting point is 00:27:03 was just coming out at that time and it's like we weren't thinking that people gonna watch this shit in Asia and watch this shit in London And we were not thinking about none of that We just like all right, but we put this shit out on YouTube because in a way we kind of wanted the niggas We was dissing to see this shit. You know I'm saying like we wanted to make this put out on YouTube for them to see it You feel me? So yeah, I I me personally I wasn't thinking about like Nobody else in the world watching this shit. I had no knowledge of that like we just wanted that one of hood fame I swear like that's what I wanted like I want to be hood famous like the light back this herb he from his area These you know I'm saying like he got this area on lock type shit like and niggas wanted on it bitches to though
Starting point is 00:27:42 Like we just do it girls like to it if you had a big song. Yeah. Or girls liked it if you was just in the streets for real. Or if you got shot. Girls liked it? Or if you was shooting. Girls liked that? One of the two.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I did that wrong. I should have been shooting. Yeah, I think they respect the shooter. What happens if you're born like on the East side where you're from and you're a nerd? You're just a fucking nerd. Like what do you do? What if you're born, like, on the East side where you're from, and you're a nerd? You're just a fucking nerd. Like what do you do? What if you suck at basketball, you can't rap? That's a great question.
Starting point is 00:28:11 What if you're bad at school? You're not even, can't even get into Harvard. You're like- A nerd and dumb? You're ugly, small dick. What do you do? Damn, that's a good question. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:28:24 What are you supposed to do? Ah? Fuck I was just about to say that that sucks But I think I can't know you can't say that cuz the world is sensitive about that kind of you can say He can say it he can say it we're here with him we hang with him right now Yeah, but no don't crazy kill yourself because you got a small pee pee. Don't do that. No, I don't have, I'm not talking about me. It's 2025, they got surgeries and all type of shit.
Starting point is 00:28:50 You can save your money up, you feel what I'm saying? Yeah. Do something like that. At least I have my hair, you know, I'm chilling. Yeah, for sure. Can I say something though, bro? You remind me of the actor. Have anybody ever told you look like this guy?
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Starting point is 00:31:41 Quince.com slash tafs. I'm gonna have to do it myself. I'm probably gonna have to do it myself I'm that's probably gonna have to do it cuz it cuz he be he's looking good. You're looking good You're like the way you look okay in in gdbd now. I'm doing okay. Yeah, was there a white guy Was there one white guy white did you have like a Chinese guy? Fuck it had to be some white jeez and B BDs. Really? It had to be. How do you get in? For sure.
Starting point is 00:32:07 When you white, you got to do some crazy shit. Yeah, that's like the Chappelle joke. Yeah. When you white, you got to do the most gangsta shit ever. You have to be a psychopath. Yeah, you got to go outside and do some stupid shit. Like Charles Manson or something. Yeah, you got to be like that for sure.
Starting point is 00:32:21 But I'm sure there were some white GDs and BDs and shit were people's parents in in like like informing like their decisions like in that way Like I know that a lot of it was influenced by Dirk's dad was was involved exactly A lot of people's parents was already in the streets like yeah These gangs didn't come out like we didn't make this shit up this shit was going on for 40 years gangs didn't come out like we didn't make this shit up this shit was going on for 40 years before us and did it stem from the Black Panthers like being a lot of it like yeah like so like a lot of those gangs stem from the Black Panthers being broken up and then people had to form like you know gangs in a neighborhood to protection like gang is really started like on some positive
Starting point is 00:33:03 shit like to protect the neighborhood So, you know I'm saying like make sure the kids get safe going to school Like they had like free breakfast free food programs and stuff like you are you're gonna say? Yeah, it was a real community organization to keep people safe So like the police can come in and just what other people were asked or other like People from other neighborhoods like with racism and shit like that's how it started but I think when you know poverty shit like that when when people started to realize like drug because and I'm being completely honest like this is a serious subject because like
Starting point is 00:33:37 We come from poverty struck in neighborhoods So a lot of people didn't we didn't have no resources to like take care of our seven make money So when drugs got involved and people started selling drugs, that's what like the war happened cuz territory You need certain territory to sell drugs certain shit like that like it was just really just a source of Like a source of income for a lot of people but you know the black we didn't know what those drugs is gonna do to us Like people started doing heroin and thinking it was just a party drug and shit like that until you strung out and you fucked up.
Starting point is 00:34:07 When crack hit the streets, it was just like a party drug, a experiment and shit like that. And then it just changed everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had crack and then they... They were like, no bullshit. That's how it happened, bro. Like for real, bro.
Starting point is 00:34:21 No funny shit. Like, we really need a movie that talk about that type of shit in Chicago. Like what the gang culture was, how did it start, and what drugs like did to the community because people was only just trying to take care of themselves, they weren't doing no job. Spike made that movie about Fred Hampton, right?
Starting point is 00:34:38 The Black Panther movie, it was a great movie too. You were so young. I was in the soundtrack. You were in the soundtrack? For that movie, yeah. Oh, congratulations. Thanks. Did you meet Spike? I've never met spike. He lives in my neighborhood. He do yeah No, no, he lives in the same neighborhood That well, it's like yeah tonight. Oh you rich bro. Just say you I'm not okay to say you riches. I'm not rich
Starting point is 00:35:00 Come on, bro. How I'm not you're you're rich. You have like Jewish style responsible businesses. That's the other interesting thing about you guys, right? And I think, is it maybe because you guys grew up so fast, right? Like you smoked weed at six? Yeah. How you look? I researched. You smoked weed at six?
Starting point is 00:35:22 Yeah. Hell yeah. Thirteen. Thirteen your first time? Yeah, dude. Fucking...the Jews, we loved and loved us. What age do you have your bar mitzvah? Thirteen. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:32 You a man then, technically. That was our thing. The Jewish lads, we loved PIF. Yeah. And then I bonded with the Mexicans in high school because they also loved, they like Mota. Yeah, Mota, Mota, Mota. Yeah. And they loved, they also loved the Smiths and Morrissey
Starting point is 00:35:48 Do you know it's this band from England and they have this the lead singer is gay or I think yeah He's gay right. It's this guy Morrissey and they're like, but the Mexicans are like particularly into Morrissey But they're also homophobic and I remember I told one of them, I was like, it's weird that you, I mean, I love the Smiths too. They're like, Adam, you're like an emo, right? And I was like, kinda, not really, no, I'm not emo. But they're like, you like the Smiths, Los Smiths? And I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:15 And I was like, you fuck with Morrissey? And I was like, that's, it's weird, cause he's like gay, like you guys like him. And he's like, that's all fucked up shit to say about Morrissey. They had no concept of the fact that it was a gay guy. But the lyrics have like, passion. Bro, what the fuck, bro?
Starting point is 00:36:32 Chicago has a lot of Mexicans too, right? A lot. I grew up in the West Coast. We got like the third largest Mexican population in the US. I think it's LA. LA. LA. Yeah, LA, then maybe Texas, then Chicago. Yeah, they're great guys. One thing I was wondering when I was researching you and growing up, I was like, if you guys want to do crime, I don't know. This is the first thing that
Starting point is 00:37:01 came up to, I don't know. Far be it for me to tell you lads how to do your job. But like, you know, I dated a girl from Lake Forest. You could have stolen so much crap up there. You were just stealing from other people in your neighborhood. And they ain't have shit. And these are like, these Jewish people up there, you could have taken anything you want. They policing is different. It's hard to take some shit out there and get back. It's kind of two different cities a little bit. It's like-
Starting point is 00:37:29 Because if you steal some shit in Chicago, they probably let you out the next day. You steal some shit in Everston, you fuck around and go do five to ten. Yeah yeah. Because then people care a lot more. It's different. They don't care about us stealing each other's shit. They're like, oh yeah, go ahead. Go steal some more.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Those people cannot protect their crap crap They can't protect it, but if you get caught God forbid There are get caught your ass is going under the gym I'm just telling you as if you're a kid in Chicago go up there there They can't do anything there these there are some of the some of the weakest Jewish people I've ever Anyway I um I I'm the weakest Jewish people I've ever seen. Hey, what the fuck bro? Like what? I need another drink bro. Let's talk about rap. Let's talk about rapping.
Starting point is 00:38:12 When did you realize you were good at rapping? I've been good at rapping all my life bro. I'm not even being funny. You just knew? Yeah, I've always been good at rapping. I started taking it serious at like 14. And you wanted to be like me? I knew how to yeah I did I wanted to be like I wanted to be like Wayne and Juelz first. Really? Then I wanted to be like me. I wanted I
Starting point is 00:38:33 started looking up to me when I was like 16 maybe. Yeah. I started looking up to Wayne and Juelz when I was like 10. Are you friends with me? Yeah yeah. He was having a rough one. He was getting people were being mean to him last year. Yeah, but see niggas like us bro, we always overcome that adversity and you gotta think when you at the top it's nothing else to do but somebody to throw stones and try to pull you down. Yeah, yeah. Pull you off your square and cuz understand that better than anybody you know and he built that shit so niggas like us he leaned towards it like you
Starting point is 00:39:04 know I'm saying and they love you today they hate you tomorrow and then they love you again so that's exactly what went on with bro for sure but like that shit that's happened to me before as well and I'm sure it's gonna continue to happen as long as I stay in this game. What? Free coughs? Fuck no. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:39:20 What do you mean that's happening to me? People trying to pull you down off the top of your... Oh people trying to hate. Yeah yeah. Yeah trying to pull you off the top of your shit. Oh, of course. That happens to me all the time. Yeah, bro. Cubs a real nigga, bro. We know Cubs want to party none of that shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Cubs ain't got nothing to do with no. Would you collab with, now if he walks, would you collab with Diddy? Yeah, I fuck with him, man. Free Diddy. Would you collab with Robert Kelly? I would collab with Unc any day of the week. He's kind of... Do you think if society is just like... I'm from Chicago. If all of the victims are like we forgive him he's such a... If society is like we need... he's a genius back... okay I shouldn't say I'm gonna get in trouble right? I just
Starting point is 00:40:03 watched Trapped in the Clos closet for the first time in a while I'm like this is a this is a work of genius And like it's a work of James. It's a for it is this man is a genius I watched that and then I watched it with he does a director's commentary and he's in the theater and And then the movie's playing and I wrecked it at his health. Yeah, of course. He's a genius. He's no tour He's like he's He's no tour. He's like the greatest filmmaker of all time. But he's watching it.
Starting point is 00:40:30 And then the opening shot is like a skyline of Chicago. And he turns back. He's in a director chair. He turns back. He's like, I put this in because I wanted people to know it's in Chicago. Uh. That's the guy.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Kills, man. I don't like, see me personally, I'll be having to watch what I say and comment and speak on certain shit even if I'm making sense, because everything I do like, go viral. So it's like, cancel culture is a bitch. Would you collab with Woody Allen?
Starting point is 00:40:58 Who the fuck is Woody Allen? Who is Woody Allen? Innocent also. Just an innocent guy. Yeah, I don't know, man. I feel like, you know... You should watch his movies. I try to stay out, like, see me. I don't... No, he's... Come on. He's anti-Semitism, whatever they did. What they're saying about it.
Starting point is 00:41:15 But I'm just saying, me, I'll be in my own little bubble. So, like, the shit that be on the internet, I don't read it. I don't really be knowing what's going on. Only to a certain extent. Rappers shouldn't have to know what's going on. I try not to know to a certain extent so I could be confident in my answer when I tell them I do not know. So I don't have to comment on certain shit.
Starting point is 00:41:34 I do that intentionally. I try not to know shit. So you, like, I guess I wanna go back to the point of how your guys' stuff was being consumed. Because you guys were like 14, 15. You were growing up in this incredibly violent environment. And then there was an audience that was consuming it as entertainment and media. I just want to like...
Starting point is 00:42:04 You were saying that you're like not, you weren't aware of that at the time. You guys were just in that environment, right? But how aware are you now of the cottage industry surrounding your guys' lives as children effectively? I'm very aware, man, because for one, I could've tricked myself out of everything that I have now. Tricked myself out of my freedom, out of my life, and by the grace of God that I've actually
Starting point is 00:42:33 just always been a critical thinker and made the right decisions at certain times where I'm here today. That's why I'm big on talking to the youth and talking to the generation under me where it's like you know this shit not really promised you got a really like sacrifice and dedicate a lot of your time and energy into making it out you know like don't feed into the shit that we've known all our lives because it's your obligation in that way in a way yes because I know my role and you know I'm saying what the? In a way, yes, because I know my role
Starting point is 00:43:05 and what the coach or drill coach was and me being an artist, it influenced a lot of kids to do what they see me doing. So I want them to know, all right, okay, I come from that, but I've always had aspirations to get away from it. Even when I didn't understand, like like how we just said I didn't know that the world was watching me I didn't know that I would really become a superstar but I always wanted more for myself no matter what it was no matter if I was gonna be a rapper try to go to
Starting point is 00:43:35 the NBA or even if I would have been in the fucking street selling drugs I always would have felt like I needed an exit plan to not be in that shit you feel I'm saying so with that being said like Like I needed an exit plan to not be in that shit You feel I'm saying so with that being said like like I was saying earlier like I knew how to rap all my life Bro, I didn't like I could have been trying to be a rapper when I was six seven years old my son Hey, like my brother tell you I always knew how to like play the words. Yeah, my brother in the car I mean right there like I always Always knew how to like play with words and like freestyle and joke around the house and be funny and shit like that Like I always knew how to do that
Starting point is 00:44:07 But that wasn't what I was trying to do like I didn't like know I wanted to be a rapper for real It's I was like 15 years old at that point I was like kind of like a grown man like I was already in the streets Already like game-banging and shit like that and getting into trouble like I was shot when I was 16 years old So you gotta think about it. Yeah, at 16 people wanted to really literally kill me. And then you dropped the video after. Yeah, I came outside the next day. I ain't no pussy.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Yeah. Does it hurt really bad? It burns. What's the first time you shot a bullet? I shot a bullet. Fuck, that's a great question. It's a very weird way to ask it, but yeah. Probably like, probably like, like 12, 13. Oh my god. We used to shoot, shoot at cans and shit in the
Starting point is 00:44:53 back of my uncle house. It's too loud. Yeah, you know we used to shoot at the cans and the bottles and shit in the back of the crib. Is that your little brother? It's my big brother. He's fat. Big brother. It's his fault that you let him do that? No, it's not your fault. I'm tired of taking his fault. He's a great guy, you raised him right. Nah, we just shoot at cans and shit, trying to see if we had aim and shit. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:14 It's just that I did it once, I went to a range, because I was like, I have to protect my... My first time ever grabbing a gun, I was like, five, my dad let me grab his pistol when I was a kid. Your dad let you at five? I mean, other kids. You shouldn't have done that, dad. These kids in fucking Texas or wherever the fuck they at,
Starting point is 00:45:33 their fathers let them go play with rifles and shit at five years old and doing tactical shooting ranges. Why, my dad can't show me. My dad a bad dad because he can't put a gun in my hand. Would you let your kid? Hell yeah. If it's in a safe environment. Yes. he can't put a gun in my hand? Would you let your kid? Hell yeah. If it's in a safe environment? Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:47 I've already put a gun in your son's hand before. He need to know what a gun is. It's dangerous. Don't play with these. In my son's seven, I didn't already put a gun in his hand before. It's just very loud. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:59 It's just a little loud. It's loud. It's dangerous. It's not a toy. It's not a toy. You better know what you're doing. If you pointed at somebody, you better be willing to kill them.
Starting point is 00:46:07 All of that, you gotta talk to your kids like that so they know it's not nothing to play with. And you know, you gotta, like me, I believe in protecting the fort. You gotta protect the house, protect your family, and know that that's our job as a man. I'm not telling my son to go be a gangster and go shoot nobody, but a gun is just a tool.
Starting point is 00:46:24 It's only as strong as the person holding it. I would do hand-to-hand combat. It's more honorable. Yeah How do you know how to kick ass to know? I mean I know me a hand-to-hand combat like kicking ass. No. Yeah. I mean I've never I've never I haven't been in a fight you ever been to fight since like my cousin raised my My mom has never been in a fight either. My mom has never been in a fight either my mom has never been in a thank God of like an actual fight with anybody outside of the household besides like a cousin or sister there has to be a guy in BD or GD who's just lost every single fight statistically speaking there's a guy that's like oh
Starting point is 00:46:59 for like 350 sure yeah and he's like I'm the guy that gets beat up when there's a fight yeah yeah I'm sure that's a drag right being the worst at fighting yeah I don't judge a book by its cover I feel like you know how to fight I got funny because I hit puberty late so I had to like funny to be survived I don't get what the funny guy always to survive I had to like I had to get. Cause I was like, first of all, I was like, what am I gonna do? These, cause of puberty, right? Some kids are like 45 years old
Starting point is 00:47:32 and you're like, you're at six years, you look six years old. And I'm like, what am I, we're the same age? I was funny too though, like I was a funny guy. That's how I got out of trouble too, when I got in trouble with my parents. I made jokes, especially with my mom. I did the same shit bro, like still.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Even at 30 I still joked to get out of trouble with my mom. That's how I was able to drop out of school. That's how I was able to do a lot of shit cause I was funny and everybody liked me. You dropped, you had bars? You dropped, you were funny? Someone's sleeping? What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:48:02 Your friend is sleeping. To his excuse his excuse was it that's your security guard he can't be sleeping on the job yeah right right that's fucked up right if you wanted to decide and just do some shit to me he's sleeping he can't even protect I would never do anything to you to his defense I must say we've been outside having a ball for about three days straight, no sleep. Today, you know what? You want to know what time I got in the house and went to sleep?
Starting point is 00:48:30 Where? What time? I got in the house. I got in the hotel at 9 a.m. I fell asleep around 9.45, 10. And what time I had to be at the first sleep? Noon. You got there at 1? Oh, that's his publicist who just spoke. Yeah, yeah. I got there at 12.40.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Right. You're irresponsible, gentlemen. Yeah. So I closed my eyes at 10 a.m. And then I woke up around 11, 11.15, got in the shower. Where'd you do last night? Where'd you go? Um, where did we go last night? I went and got food and I went to... Till 4 a.m.? No, I went and got food. After we got food, where did we go? night? I went and got food and I went Till 4am? No, I went and got food After we got food, where did we go to the studio, right?
Starting point is 00:49:09 Yeah, I stayed in the studio I went to two studios So I went to one studio We was in there chilling Until 4 Then I left and went and took my girl to the hotel And then I went to another studio Nice
Starting point is 00:49:23 Until 8 8, 8.30 You went to another studio until 8. 8. 8.30. You went to another studio? Yeah, I went to another fucking studio. Yeah, after you dropped your girl off? Yeah, yeah. She was tired. She was asleep, bro.
Starting point is 00:49:34 She couldn't get into the second studio. I went and did a verse. I made some money. I made some money. Yeah, yeah, you did a verse. Came back in with some money. Yeah. You know, I made some money. What else am I going to do coming in the house with thousands? What you think I'm going to do? Slang and dick out of? Yeah, you know I made some money or what else I'm gonna do coming in the house What you think I'm on a slinging dick out of?
Starting point is 00:49:46 Yeah, you're a famous rapper. You should get girls You should get a lot of selling it not like they don't like like selling it though. You're not gonna sell What so what are you selling your penis? What are you talking about? What? Sorry? No, sorry I've we're off would you would you technically sell my penis for what? No one's buying that penis for what no one's buying that thousands I have to somebody call you right now say I got 10k I want it you dropping it off oh like a beautiful
Starting point is 00:50:12 woman what no fuck no you selling it looks like a big old girl whoever no I have why I just got engaged to my fiance so yeah I wouldn't want to jeopardize our love you You know, yeah. Even if I could get $10,000 for my penis, if this 300 pound woman wants my penis. So if she was 200 pounds lighter.
Starting point is 00:50:33 No, I wouldn't prostitute myself. And neither nor should anyone. Yeah, I don't believe it. It is the oldest profession, but. It is? Yeah, that's what they say. I don't know. Are there tours that go to like Oblok Fuck yeah, there's like German tour groups that are like fish fine
Starting point is 00:50:53 Hell no, you ain't gonna order there's like there's like a like a tour like Europeans that are like fight fish done to the hunt Which is about like Wild Hundreds? Ball like I'm Kobe finally reach Yeah, they they go to over there for sure like you ain't see all the people traveling go see the King mom We're over shit like this my son definitely want to go to old block dope man I told him I ain't gonna take him but I might I might still take him. I might still take them It's when did you first meet those those boys when you first meet chief Keef and stuff? First time me so something was 15, both of us.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Yeah. 15, yeah. Is he the same age as you? Yeah, we the same age, yeah. Yeah. And you were from the East Side, though, right? Yeah, I'm from the East Side. He's from the South Side.
Starting point is 00:51:36 He's from Oblok. He's from Oblok. And I'm from 79th Street. But we got like, my best, so my best friend's name is Wap. Him and Sosa grew up together, so. He's Italian? Nope. Okay, nevermind.
Starting point is 00:51:49 He's a Wap. You a funny, you a funny motherfucker, man. I ain't gonna lie. I try, I try. You got it. But yeah, now his name Wap, and him and Sosa grew up together. So like, when he moved to my neighborhood,
Starting point is 00:52:02 like he grew up in the projects and shit, like, and you know he always known Sosa like half his life and When he moved to my neighborhood Of course we got like super close to still my best friend to this day So I met Sosa through him like through him and his brother cap who passed away He was also a rapper and that's how I met Sosa So when I first started to do music and rap, the studio that he took me to was the same studio Sosa
Starting point is 00:52:30 used to record at. You feel me? But him and Sosa of course was already like friends and shit but he took me like, alright, go record at this studio and that's how I met. So he like, man you should record over here. You guys liked each other when you met? Yeah for sure. So we always like like locked in since the day we met do you consider yourself like on that Mount Rushmore? Like where it's like I guess If I if a Jewish guy from Las Vegas and about suburban Las Vegas would have to tell you this It's probably in my mind. It's it's it's chief Keith. It's it's King Von. It's Dirk. Maybe in you Yeah, it sounds like that. That's right. I would definitely yeah
Starting point is 00:53:10 I definitely will put myself on the Mount Rushmore And it's like it's so hard and it's so controversial when you when you speak of that because it's like so much greatness Has come out of Chicago is like it also influenced New York and influenced London Yeah, it did definitely is influenced even like, you know, Tokyo got drilled now like You but you fuck you fuck with them. Yeah. Hang out with me. Yeah, I like I like Tokyo drill just cuz I like they swag like I like they take their shoes off. Yeah, like how they carry they said nah He'll not let me fly. They'll supply Baby on some flash. Yeah, that's why I fuck with Tokyo Drill though.
Starting point is 00:53:45 They on some fly gangster shit. And I feel like every country always got a ghetto where there's shit going on there no matter what. Yeah. Have you been there before? No, I've never been. It's like there isn't a speck of- You been to Japan?
Starting point is 00:54:00 Yeah, twice. There isn't a speck of dust on the sidewalk. None. Yeah, it's- It's really clean. It's bizarre. I think because we dropped two atomic bombs on them, they have like a trauma about it. So they're super clean. It's two?
Starting point is 00:54:16 We dropped two. It's all Japanese people. No, it was two atomic bombs. It was Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Or two different places. Two different places. Yeah. It's pretty horrific that we did that. Yeah, it's pretty horrific that we did that.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Yeah, it's fucked up. Yeah. I mean, we didn't do it. I mean, you and I, we weren't on it. It's funny that the plane was called the Enola Gay though. Pause, that's crazy. I didn't know that. See, you put me on a lot of shit I didn't know about.
Starting point is 00:54:40 I mean, I knew about those. I knew about those historic events, of course. There's a Reddit page I found. This really made me nauseous. I don't know if a lot of stuff. I knew about those historic events of course. There's a reddit page I found this really made me nauseous. I don't know if you know about this. It's called Shy Rackology. Yeah. Yeah, I know that page. It's the guys that are stalk you guys. It's like one of them called out. What are those pictures you looking at? I want to show these to you. These are some of the most psychotic posts that I found.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Okay, so this one says, anyone know who this dude is in the back? It's just like some guy that's... These are like people trying to spot who the guy in... That's smart. It's not dirt, right? I don't know who that is I mean it's a guy in a picture with chief Keith 40 feet away no I think they're okay how weeks back then here's another one some shirtless
Starting point is 00:55:35 pictures of King Vaughn pause no that part that's crazy little stocky he did all that fucking so you like this he did all that time this would be so annoying if people were posting this stuff about my friends okay I'll tell you I know this page I'm just now these people are psycho I'm just now catching on a reddit yes a lot of fucking psychos out here here's the one I'll notice it read this read this this post allowed this is great this out loud yeah this is what like I'm probably a 14 year old child in like my for sure in Get you get people fucked up when he's when you know when I see this I'm like how can I take?
Starting point is 00:56:11 Drilla serious when he came from a loving household Do never struggle to day his life ate three meals a day. I doubt he even know what a bad day is Yeah, yeah, cuz he in a family picture bad day is. Yeah, yeah. Just because he in a family picture. Because someone's in a family picture. I seen a post, like, I seen a post, I mean like a meme video where niggas was like, like, you can't do nothing.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Like you really like, in this day and age, like even in Chicago or just in this culture, you gotta like be homeless and like nobody's gotta love you. Like they say, yeah this nigga was like. His parents loved him. This nigga was well-mouthing him. What a bitch. His parents loved him. Yeah, like a 13-year- loved him as well. My little one is parents. Love them Yeah, like a 13 year old Colorado
Starting point is 00:56:49 Nutrition he had two parents and they loved him I got so many pictures like this bro, but I'm gonna laugh. I don't I don't know him personally. Yeah, but Yeah, there's some serious there them some serious dudes over there. What do you make of like, You guys are serious. Of like the content creators that have made careers basically off of you guys, like academics or Vlad, or like people that are like,
Starting point is 00:57:15 people that cover you guys and have like made money off it. See, if I was, if I was the type of nigga that really, I don't give a fuck about that shit But if I did I would like yeah, you know cut cut me in or do something like I feel like all those kind of guys what they should do is give to a Nonprofit organization in Chicago that I'm a challenge them to do that like what's academics Vlad all you niggas that they made money off of culture and people dying and bloodshed and shit like that go donate 20,000 or 50,000 to a nonprofit organization that focus on just the betterment of kids
Starting point is 00:57:55 that's my opinion he's awake yeah and what do you make of that guy academics academics academics like it's a academics, like I don't. It's a little bit like his life is. I fuck with him though, like me and academics, we didn't met, we chopped it up, we done interviews, but like I'm not going, like see me, me and the man, I don't agree with everything he does, and that's okay, you could agree to disagree,
Starting point is 00:58:19 you feel what I'm saying, but like, he just academics, bro, like. You don't think of being an adult man as a man? And he's like, just like a man is certain shit. You shouldn't do it. You shouldn't say he's just giving it He's like my liege my sword. He's like he's just sucking up to other men Yeah, it's like he's like a kind of a crazy life. It's like he and I'm gonna say this and I'm gonna just leave it at that like he picked and choose when he want to be like a Like he pick and choose when he want to be like a real nigga or aggressor or say certain shit that's just like your moral code should never allow you to say.
Starting point is 00:58:51 You can't pick and choose like on Wednesday I'm going to say some shit that's super outrageous then Thursday I'm like a real nigga like well I'm cool, I fuck, you know what I'm saying? Like you can't do that because as a man you got to be held accountable for what you say So in certain situations if somebody holds you accountable for that you got to accept what come with that accountability If I'm saying you can't she's like a suck up do no other shit like yeah, and I'm glad you saying this I'm not saying yeah anyway Academics you're on notice you owe a hundred,000 to what organization? Any organization, you pick one, man. A hundred, because you done made so much money off this shit.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Y'all go donate $100,000. A hundred. And write that shit off for y'all taxes, bro. And if you don't, you're a, that's shit. Yeah, what, say it. You're a bitch. Land a plane. Land a plane.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Academics, you're a real bitch. And if you have problems, you can take it up on the Adam Friedland Show DJ academic. You can, I will sit down with you in the most intellectual style public intellectual talk. And I'll be there in the middle to mediate. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't even need you. That is one I feel like I can handle myself.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I can handle that one. All right, sorry. Let me shake your hand one more time. Thank you so much. And he agrees with everything I just said. Thank you. Do you feel like with as much life experience as you've had, do you feel like older than 29? I definitely feel. You're probably 65 years old. Yeah, in trenches years. I'm 65 for sure because like I grew up early, bro, and I had a lot of responsibility on me at a young age because I thought it was the way to go like when you when you grow up early
Starting point is 01:00:29 You you feel like you a man so like 15 16 years old I felt like I was a man and I hailed with people I mean I hung out with people that was older than me from Sam Yeah, I get a lot of like my influence and shit like I keep mentioning my brother like I hung with Him my entire life. He's five years older than me So he was already doing certain shit and like you know I'm saying anything that I wanted to be into Early on you feel me so I always thought like I was a man like I hung out with older people I dropped out of school early by the time I was 16
Starting point is 01:01:01 I was paying like all the bills in my house like literally like paying my mama bills paying doing shit for my aunties you know like just doing so much shit where it's like I was taking care my friends families and shit like that you feel me and I was in the streets for real so you gotta think about it like I was losing a lot of my homies my homies dying I'm 15 16 17 years old I'm covering the whole funeral cost you feel me like doing shit like that at an early age and put a lot of my homies, my homies dying, I'm 15, 16, 17 years old, I'm covering the whole funeral cost. You feel me? Like doing shit like that at an early age, it put a lot on you, it take a toll,
Starting point is 01:01:30 and it never stopped. So like I said, when I got shot, I was back outside. My homies got killed, I'm back outside. So it was never ending. You feel me? I never got a time to get that trauma off of me, talk to somebody. Even when I started doing therapy
Starting point is 01:01:46 when I was in my 20s and shit, I was four or five years behind. In certain communities and cultures, if you go see somebody fucking get in a fight, you going to therapy. You know what I'm saying? One traumatic event, you going to therapy. Not me.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Not you. I got no problems. No, I feel like a lot of therapy. A lot of therapy, I've gone through a lot of stuff. When was your first therapy session? What age? 32. 32? And then I got through the breakup
Starting point is 01:02:19 and then my mother passed away, cancer. Okay, I'm sorry for your loss. Yeah. So you was going through the breakup and you started therapy. But then the mom died and you don't care about the breakup. You know?
Starting point is 01:02:31 Yeah. And then basically he was like, you graduated. You should be the therapist. You're one of the smartest guys I've ever met. This is true. Your therapist said that. No. You're healed. You're healed. Get the fuck on. But no, I'm
Starting point is 01:02:48 saying all that to say, see look, bro I can't listen to you all the time. No, no, what I mean is like I was going through a tough time because my mom had cancer so I started doing therapy and then I went through a breakup during that time. During that time. During that time. It's useful. You know what it it is it's more like you talk about your week and all the things you think that you're like I you I do things that I'm like you're the worst guy in the world right you suck and then I say it and I'm like it's kind of normal things no it's a cut you kind of a normal thing I'm so glad I'm talking to you it's like a therapy session yeah it's like when're saying that, so basically,
Starting point is 01:03:26 you might go through some personal shit and a traumatic event will make you feel like it's not so bad, it's cool. So you might lose a friend or you might lose a girlfriend or some shit, and that's somebody that's like, see me technically, and I'ma be completely honest, I had this problem bad coming up. I've lost so many people that have physically died,
Starting point is 01:03:47 you know what I'm saying, that's not here anymore, where it's like, I don't really care about losing friends. I never cared about losing, you know what I'm saying? I'm talking about therapy to you. Yeah, or losing a relationship or shit like that. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. From hell, it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:59 I mean, it's crazy. You're from, you were in a war zone as a child, and then my girlfriend cheated on me and would you believe it? She cheated on me and it's just like it's like that's a little bit embarrassing for a Mayan But the thing is like see this what the fact that you're being nice to me right now makes me thank God I fuck with you. You could really just kill my ass on all of this And then your girlfriend but the thing is like but is, bro, that what makes us so different is everybody going through this shit.
Starting point is 01:04:30 No, I'm saying, yeah, we are the same. Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing is, the thing is everybody going through the same shit so you really don't have time to process your thoughts and your emotions. You might be going through the same shit so you really don't have time to process your thoughts and your emotions. You might be going through a traumatic event
Starting point is 01:04:48 where like your best friend died or your brother died or your mom died or your dad died. Somebody else is going through the exact same thing right next to you. So it's like you trying to be there for somebody, you trying to grieve your own way and then you trying to get up and strive to do something the next day
Starting point is 01:05:03 and the next day something else happens. You feel what I'm saying? Like in the do something the next day and the next day something else happened If I'm saying like in the next day something else happened in the next day something else happened So if we don't have a proper like and this is me being on some real shit if we don't have a proper resources and tools To like get help or talk to somebody or half therapy and shit like that you will never get over You'll just be carrying that trauma, and that's why everybody walk around angry That's why niggas mad like so as you step on a nigga shoe you ready to kill you I would kill you if you did I would have no choice those shoes no sorry I was just kidding no these you they're nice
Starting point is 01:05:34 What you're saying is What you're saying is is like yeah, what you realize is like if you're responding to a situation That's just a sad situation. You're not necessarily clinically depressed. Yeah, you know what I mean you're responding to a situation that's just a sad situation you're not necessarily clinically depressed. You know what I mean? You're a human being responding honestly to a stimulus, something that's inspiring that kind of emotion and it's like it's an easier way to like kind of like it's it's more of a like a practical thing to like... So let me ask you this question. Yes. As a 30 yearyear-old man, what's your breaking point? What gets your blood boiling when some shit happens?
Starting point is 01:06:12 Me? Yes. What pisses you off the most that you experience on a day-to-day basis? Shit that just make you mad. Get the fuck away from me. What gets me mad? What gets me mad? What gets me mad?
Starting point is 01:06:24 You know, like not a I'm like I'm kinda lucky I don't like You know what it is? It's like if you don't have money, right? My parents had trouble with money growing up and that
Starting point is 01:06:40 living where you're constantly stressed about money, it consumes you right? And I was broke as shit for most of my adult life. And then I started being able to subsist and then not have to worry about money. And it's a different life. And that's kinda what I think. When I made that joke about you guys
Starting point is 01:07:01 shouldn't steal from my ex-girlfriend's family, which you should. You didn't say her You didn't I said directly her you know I know you know I woke up you said she lived in that area You said go steal from the northern the northern Suburbs you should be stealing from them no I broke up with her actually because uh Because I went back for Christmas with her and it was like my first Christmas I was like so hyped us and she said, I met her people, her friends,
Starting point is 01:07:27 and she said the word, she said black. She said the only black kids in our high school were Lovey Smith, Lovey Smith, the Coach of the Bears kids. But the way she said black, I was like, I felt like I should be- F**ked you up. Can I ask you, okay, I. I was like, I felt like I should be able to work. Can I can I ask you, okay, I want to ask you about a little bit about like, there's this like urban legend that
Starting point is 01:07:52 Jordan, like, went to the hood and and lost 100 grand in a dice game 100 probably lost a couple. Is that real? I me growing up, I really personally, it's an urban legend, but I believe it. 100% it happened. A guy from our neighborhood, well he used to be in our neighborhood, and this is crazy, I can't even disclose
Starting point is 01:08:16 too much information because they gonna know what I'm talking about. Lil' Bibi. No, fuck no. A guy from our neighborhood, he was like a nigga that just got money and shit like that and did what he did. They said he won a million from Jordan, gambling and shooting dice.
Starting point is 01:08:36 He was on the Bulls? Shooting dice. No, fuck no, he was a street nigga. No, but Jordan was just no doubt. Jordan was either on the Bulls or on the Wizards or just getting out the league. Either way, he was Michael Jordan, rich as fuck, and he was gambling, shooting dice,
Starting point is 01:08:51 and he lost a million dollars to this guy. I swear to God. There's no way that Jordan paid. That was like something that I've been knowing, hearing all the time. There's no way he paid. He didn't pay, no. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:08:59 He owed, he probably gave him like 200, 300 that night and owed him 700,000. So Michael Jordan DJ academics You're on notice you know this guy with this gentleman. We're not gonna say his name, but you know for sure for sure Yeah, I think he owed them over five hundred thousand like he probably gave him two three hundred That night in Never gave way to the money. I watched your drink champs and first off I want to say there's like a moment at the end where noriega like gives you your
Starting point is 01:09:25 flowers that's like very beautiful because it's like even if like the head like even if the The the heads aren't saying it to you like we all know you're amazing and that's an amazing thing to say I appreciate that bro. Okay, but then they did this game with the shots, right? So I wanted to do my version of it. Let's do it. What was the game called? That's why we got the 1942. I don't remember the game
Starting point is 01:09:49 because I was fucked up on Drink Champ. I know you were. I got drunk as a motherfucker. Okay, so I'm gonna do it. So it's one or the other, and if it's a tie, it's take a shot. All right, but. Okay, so we're gonna do it.
Starting point is 01:10:01 This is the Adam Friedland show version of something that they made up. Let me just, hold on. Before you start, let me just pour my shots now the Adam Friedland show version of something that they made up. Hold on, before you start, let me just pour my shots now. Oh my God, I'm already drunk. Should we go to a little? So I gotta pour yours as well. Yeah, I'm gonna go like this.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Yeah, so no, cuz they take a shot with me when I do it. I'll do anything you ask me to. Okay, all right, let's start. Okay, Tupac or Biggie? You say yo. I said pause. Yo. What do you mean pause? Or do anything? Okay, all right. Let's start. Okay, Tupac or Biggie. You say, yo? I said, Paul. Yo.
Starting point is 01:10:27 What do you mean, pause? Or do anything. I'm not gay. I'm not with that gay shit. How are you going to bring this guy disrespecting me in my own office in a building? He's from New York, though. Oh, where are you from? I'm Fort Greene, Brooklyn, sir. Have you been to the farmer's market? Have you been to the farmer's market on a Saturday morning with your slouchy outfit
Starting point is 01:10:51 with your girlfriend just relaxing? It's a nice Saturday morning. Where are you from, B? I'm from the Bronx. You're from the Bronx. TXBX. I have a lot of respect for uptown, the Bronx. I'm from the south side of the Bronx. Do you like hookah? No, I don't smoke hookah. That's dykeman shit. That's dykeman. It's weird. The Dominicans really like hookah? That's dykeman. It's weird the Dominicans really like hookah
Starting point is 01:11:08 Which is it but it's a Middle Eastern thing, but the Dominicans like it and they're wearing girls jeans, and they're doing hookah I don't got no problem hookah. I just feel like It's for the bitches. It's for when it's for Jewish kids doing your summer tour of Israel. I'm looking at the camera I ain't gonna say my cousin ain't cuz Put that hookah down. Yeah cuz put that hookah down. I'm gonna look at the camera, I ain't gonna say my cousin ain't. Hey cuz, put that hooker down. Yeah cuz, put that hooker down, it's gonna destroy your life. Okay. Alright, let's do the classic, the Tupac or Biggie? Tupac or Biggie? Yeah. Tupac. Really? Really? I'm gonna go Tupac. Okay. I've always been a part kind of nigga. All right, Atlanta, Gucci or Jeezy? WAP, I'm going Gucci. All right, I agree.
Starting point is 01:11:48 But Jeezy, actually, what a ledge. Jeezy that nigga? What a ledge. I'm going WAP though, like I grew up on Gucci. The two songs with Kanye? The two songs with Kanye? Yeah, for sure. The real is back alone is just monumental.
Starting point is 01:12:00 The Kanye verse I put on is the funniest. With TN101. The Kanye verse I put on is the funniest he in 101 the Kanye verse I'm put on is the funniest thing ever you could tell Amber Rose just destroyed his life and he's like I put on for the bitches that owe me sex the way he's like oh me sex like I've earned this sex madam ma'am you nigga? I'm a genius. I love- Hey, bro. I'm a go Gucci though. I'm just like-
Starting point is 01:12:28 Of course, Gucci. Everything, like my whole, like my upbringing- Have you met him? He's the coolest guy? Yeah, of course. Of course I've met Wapu a hundred times. He fell asleep like this guy or no? Nah, hell of a while ago.
Starting point is 01:12:36 He was awake. Yeah. Just like, yeah, like I don't know. Just my whole upbringing was Gucci. My homie G-Fazzo, his favorite rapper was Gucci Mane. That's how I really got up on Gucci lyrics. So the Chicago guys were like listening to that stuff. Yeah, my homie G-Faz his favorite rapper was Gucci Mane like that's how I really got up on Gucci lyrics so the Chicago guys were like listening yeah homie G Faisal he died Faison died in 2010 I'm sorry his favorite rapper was Gucci Mane yeah
Starting point is 01:12:52 I don't give a fuck who your favorite rapper was all he wanted to use Gucci yeah you feel me so like yeah I got like a different type of all right J Diller Madlib is that a white question? I'm taking shots already before I even answer the question. Because you're having a great time? That was a white question. Yeah, it was a white question. They're incredible though. I don't, hey don't kill me nobody. Who are they? Who are they? Well let me tell you about hip hop culture. Okay, Herb let me explain to you. No, they're like too incredible. What do they do though?
Starting point is 01:13:30 They're two of the best producers ever. Okay, wait, say the names again. Jay Dilla or Madlib. What do they produce? You know Quasimodo? I know Quasimodo. Mad Villainy? Of course, yeah. Quasimodo is Madlib. Oh, okay. With his voice pitched up. Okay, I'm gonna go Madlib then. I know Quasimodo, you know, mad villainy. Of course, yeah. Quasimodo is Madlib. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:13:45 With his voice pitched up. Okay, I'm gonna go Madlib then. I know Quasimodo. It's the right answer. It's the right answer. Dilla died and it's very sad, but it's the right answer. Just because you're dead, it doesn't mean you win. Dilla was also incredible.
Starting point is 01:13:58 You're a fucked up person, bro. Incredible. I'm sorry that I said that. I'm sorry I said that. Okay, I don't know if you you'll know these guys you're a great person though but you're fucked up I'm not fucked up you're fucked up in the head you're one of the most fucked up guys ever you're fucked up okay you might not know these guys this might be a white question this
Starting point is 01:14:18 actually is a white question okay and it's gonna be funny when I say what the question is my mom like borderline white. My mom like blackish, whitish. She worked at Marshall Fields for like 15 years. What's that? You know where Marshall Fields is? I know, Marshalls? Marshall Fields was Macy's before it turned into Macy's. Oh my God, my mom took me to Macy's so much
Starting point is 01:14:37 before Thanksgiving. So it was before it became Macy's. You remember Marshall Fields? Is it like a department? It was called Marshall Fields. It was Marshall Fields here, one in New York. It was called Marshall Fields before Macy's. Marshall Fields wasn't as popular. Macy's
Starting point is 01:14:52 got like super big. She was like a competitor. She was still working there when it became yeah, I think Macy's bought Marshall Fields. When College Dropout dropped, the polo aspect of it was so meaningful. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Because my mom would take me to Macy's to get a polo. Get the polo, yeah. And I'm like, now there's a rapper. They had it in Marshall Field. Like, I grew up, like, when I was on my, like, fashion shit and shit, like, I used to get my clothes from where my mom worked in Marshall Field. Like, that's why I'm so big on cologne. Like, I'm a big cologne connoisseur. Really? Because my mom worked in the fragrance department at Marshall Field. That's why I'm so big on cologne. Like I'm a big cologne connoisseur. Really?
Starting point is 01:15:25 Because my mom worked in the fragrance department at Marshall Field. What's your favorite? My favorite cologne? Probably Creed is my all-time favorite. Creed? Yeah, I love the way Creed smells. What is that?
Starting point is 01:15:38 You know what Creed is, bro. I know the band. Fuck out of here. You know Creed. With arms wide open. MFK, I like Mfk machine gun Kelly and FK All right, this is a white question Kendrick or Drake That's not a fucking white question. Well, we got really into that. We were like, yes, it's true
Starting point is 01:15:59 Drake is not like us that was disgusting to me. Wait, hold on. Go back go back the way that fat white men in their 40s with beards reacted to the beef made me very uncomfortable. If you understand what I'm saying. Yeah, I get what you're saying. It's like a little bit like it was like it's not for it. It wasn't as far as the reaction. It wasn't for girls. The beef wasn't for girls. It was for fat 40 year old white men kind of yeah and Joe budden kind of people I'm gonna say this I'm gonna chime in and say beef is never for girls girls never get into beef They don't give a fuck about that shit. Like yeah, they care about me. Yeah
Starting point is 01:16:38 Yeah, especially if two niggas in the beef with money and never pick it. So like I'll say I'll wait till She died out. I'm saying shot It's anti-semitism the way he was treated Just take my shot bro, let me explain to you you can never feel bad for he's like blade He's like a Jewish guy that was allowed to be the biggest rapper in the world. Blade? Who's Blade? Blade? The movie about... Like the movie Blade?
Starting point is 01:17:11 Yeah, yeah. The vampire movie. When Wesley Snipes is half human... Alright, explain it. How the fuck do you explain it? Wesley Snipes is a vampire that could also be in the daylight, right? In the daylight, okay. For me, it's like Drake is a Jewish guy that's also allowed to be the most famous rapper in the world and it meant so much to me
Starting point is 01:17:28 He's the blade of us And I was like just I He never told you it's fire why would he not tell you that That's fire. You're friendly with him. Yes my dog. He's the best Yeah, you were listening to his song the other day on Instagram. Yes, bro. Come on, bro. It's fucking Drake.
Starting point is 01:17:48 We love him so much. Me for real, bro. Drake's one of the first niggas to support me, though, for real. Drake. He put you on? He ain't put me on. Fuck no.
Starting point is 01:17:56 No. But yeah, Drake, he showed love in 2012, 2013. What a good guy. Right, guys? For sure. What a good guy, right guys? For sure. What a good guy. For sure. And please, Dre, do you have his number?
Starting point is 01:18:09 You call him. Just give me his number, I'll call him over. I thought you had his number, bro. I thought y'all was like, you know. No, I don't see him at the meetings for Jewish people. Nah, I'm gonna say this might be unpopular. Like, you know, Ye said that all Jewish people know that they got a group chat.
Starting point is 01:18:24 No, that was the last question. He said y'all got a group chat y'all got each other number you just every Jewish every Jewish person in Cahoon let's continue let's continue that's what Ye said your necklace just fell off. Okay, let's continue. UGK or 3-6? 3-6 mafia. Incredible. Incredible. How good. Yeah. So good. 3-6 mafia for sure. There's a lot of that in Chicago Drill Team. Yeah. I'm gonna go 3-6. There's a lot of the chaos. I'm gonna go 3-6. Okay. Look, so look. So you remember you just said that I smoked my first blunt at six years old, right? I was listening to Three Seas Monthly. You were? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:08 You were listening to Sippin' on Some Scissor? I was listening to... Fuck, I don't even know what song I was listening to, but I- Put your D in your mouth? I 100% sure was listening to Project Pat and Juicy J. You were listening to Put your D in your mouth, give me head till I dig. Put your D in your mouth, give me head till I dig. Oh Put your D in a mouth, give me head till I'm dead. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 01:19:26 Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. This girl was talking about dick so good the other day. It's so embarrassing. I just did that. Can you guys all forget it? And we're drunk, and you're watching us. I don't like being judged.
Starting point is 01:19:36 You're all judging us. You fell asleep on the job as a security officer. I'm just deflected. Deflected. He's back to sleep? How much time do we have? Okay, let's wrap it up. Beetles are the rolling stones. Beetles are the rolling stones.
Starting point is 01:19:52 We're not even playing the game. I'm going to go, um, I'm going to go beetles. Just because I I can't. That for me is shot. It's actually Beatles. But it's so close.
Starting point is 01:20:07 I'm gonna go Beatles. Just because I had heard the Beatles too much growing up. I'm really a... I'm a Queen type of guy. Really? Pause. Queen is like one of my favorites. What the fuck is pause about that? No one laughed. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No one laughed. For me saying I'm a Queen type of guy, said pause I'm just kidding hey that was hard though I love Queen okay you look we the pullout method or moving to a new city the
Starting point is 01:20:33 pullout method of moving to a new city yeah new city yeah yeah yeah you impregnate you just go to you disappear move to Mexico okay Pakistan or Pakistan or India Pakistan or India? Yeah who you go who are you riding with or is that a is that a shot? Is that like some controversial shit? No no it's not controversial at all okay Pakistan India I'ma go Pakistan. Okay Halle Berry or Mayor Lori Lightfoot? Lori Lightfoot. Really? She done did a lot for Older City and me.
Starting point is 01:21:11 You met Mayor Lori? Yes, we had a real meeting, like a sit down in her office. She's so, wow. Yeah. That's your friend? Yeah. I would rather sleep with Halle Berry than her. But, it's close.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Me too. Okay. World War II or US Civil War? What's the better war. World War II or US Civil War? What's the better war? World War II. US Civil, dude. US Civil War? What the fuck is a US Civil War?
Starting point is 01:21:32 I've never heard of that. The North fought the South. There was slavery. The US Civil War? Oh, to get out of slavery. Yeah, the Confederacy. Right. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nat Turner was a part of that war, right? No, he did the rebellion. That was before after. That was before. Yeah. That was before. That guy, he's gonna have... That kind of introduced the world, the US Civil War. No, the... So US Civil War was like North Virginia versus South Virginia, all that shit. South Virginia? South Virginia, his slaves, North Virginia, didn't. South Virginia's not a place, dude. South Virginia was a place before. West Virginia. No, it was North Virginia and South Virginia
Starting point is 01:22:11 before the Civil War. I'm pretty sure you didn't know that. I don't know. You don't have to lie to me. We gotta Google it. We gotta figure this shit out real quick before it's time to go. Yay or...
Starting point is 01:22:20 Cause now you got me feeling like I'm trippin', bro. Yay or the Jewish people? The Jewish people. Thank you. Wait, could you do like an OG call? The Jewish people. Could you do an OG call and me and him could squash it? You might fuck up my relationship with him though.
Starting point is 01:22:36 I would squash, first of all I would make it stronger. Second of all I could squash it. We could do a benefit concert like him and Drake. They did that already. Yeah, but him and I would do one for for Harvey Weinstein or something. They did it for Larry Hoover I know I would do it for a Jewish Prisoner political prisoner because they they want us to go. Oh, he's different What is different means just different? Okay Guys sad news. We just found out the office Ozzy Osbourne is dead at 76 years old. I'm devastated. We're all sad here
Starting point is 01:23:10 He was one of the fucking best and I just want to give our thoughts to his family to his friends to the to the members of Sabbath but guys I'm feeling crappy to the members of Sabbath. But guys, I'm feeling crappy right now and I could really use some federally legal THC that ships directly to your door. And that's why I wanna talk to you about mood.
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Starting point is 01:26:09 of the environment you were in? The motivating factor? What was the one thing that did it? And then do you have a concept of the people that are still there? And like, how much do you think of the people that are still there? I do a lot.
Starting point is 01:26:22 Yeah. I think just me being who I am, I'm gonna always have survivor's guilt, no matter how mature or how much I understand life and just that you can't save anybody. Everybody, I mean, not anybody, everybody. I think I'm gonna just always have that, just knowing where I come from and want better
Starting point is 01:26:46 for the people that I love. Because it's certain people, like, and like coming from my neighborhood and in my environment that just like, I'ma always want to make it out. And for example, like this is sensitive subject, so like, artists, Mellow Bucks, like, you know, we in business, she just hit a
Starting point is 01:27:06 Like an album release where it was like a mad shooting for people who got killed 15 other people got shot. It's probably like Majority women ten women like shit like that. It always just like it's a sensitive a very sensitive subject You know I'm saying it like and some of the people, that guy, that were killed, I have personal relationships with, my homie, Lil Rock, who I rapped about, he tattooed on me. He was one of the first people that I lost coming up,
Starting point is 01:27:38 you know what I'm saying, from my neighborhood. And his little brother was just killed as a part of that mad shooter. So it's just a different type of field. No matter where I'm at in the world, I could have been anywhere and that shit would still like, touch me and do certain shit to me. So I'm gonna always have survivor's guilt because that shit is going on. That's why it's important for me to like, try to like, break the cycle
Starting point is 01:27:59 and just try to help in any way possible that I can. That's why I'm saying shit like that to academics, Vlad, shit like that, to just try to get back to the city and people who actively help in the city. That's why I fuck with Eye of the Trinchis. That's why I fuck with Golden Child. That's why I fuck with the people who actually trying to make a difference in Chicago.
Starting point is 01:28:18 You know what I'm saying? And for me, it's like I've always, always been that kind of guy. Like I've always been a guy that wanted more, you know what I'm saying, that wanted more for myself. You feel what I'm saying? Like the first question that you asked, what is the first person you,
Starting point is 01:28:35 cause I wanna like chime in on that too. I just feel like what was the motive, like when were you like, I gotta go. Exactly, that was it. Cause it's like, there's like, That's what I wanted to ask. There was like, one thing that before you came I wanted to avoid is like just like a freaking middle class white guy being like, can we fix Chicago?
Starting point is 01:28:55 Can we fix Chicago? Like what- no, I don't want to like be that guy. But the question is because you're a guy- But it's a good question. You were a guy that was in an environment and you saved your life, right? And so it's like saying to some guy that was in Vietnam, like, what are you doing for the guys that are still at the war in Vietnam, right? If there is just has to be something or somebody that wants to make a difference.
Starting point is 01:29:17 If there's a will, there's a way. I feel like anything can be fixed. Like anything broken can be fixed. That's a crazy question. Can we fix? Of course, yes. Yes, you can fix Chicago. That's a crazy question, can we fix, of course, yes. Yes, you can fix Chicago, and the way is resources, money. I come from the trenches, I come from the streets, I come from poverty, I've seen bloodshed,
Starting point is 01:29:34 I know what it's like to lose somebody, I know what all of that shit is like. If you put resources into the streets, when I started to get money and I had things to live for, that was my changing factor. For me, that's why I wanted to go back and answer that things to live for That was my change of factor like for me That's why I wanted to go back and answer that question because I felt like it was some a part of that that I didn't Answer and that was the change in fact that will meet was having my first kid having a child You know if I'm saying like that made me like not want to even give a fuck about nothing else nothing else mattered to me
Starting point is 01:30:01 once I had a kid like because I was still that guy, even when I was leaving the streets, I was still trying to be one foot in, one foot out, and you try to, you know what I'm saying, appeal and please to other people. But once I had a human that was on this earth because of me, I don't give a fuck about how the next person do this or do that or do this, even though I do, like I just said,
Starting point is 01:30:25 I do have survivor's guilt, but that's not my responsibility. My only responsibility is making sure my kids live a successful life and could do whatever they want to do. You know what I'm saying? Like, live a long life, live a successful life, and have the resources to be great. I'm always gonna remember where I come from.
Starting point is 01:30:42 And that's why I was saying, going back to like, my son said he wanted to go to O Block. You think I don't know niggas in O Block? I could call him and be like, my son wanna see this shit. Why the fuck would I put my son in an environment where he could lose his life or something happen? Or he could see a traumatic event.
Starting point is 01:30:56 He's from Beverly Hills, right? No, my son, he was born in Chicago, but he didn't even spend a whole year in Chicago. My other two kids are from Bel Air Not even that way it was born in Bel Air But do you think you think they're like they're little Bel Air kids you think like all my kids You think they even they from they respect their dad No, do you like you see your boys? And you're like you're a little softies fuck no
Starting point is 01:31:21 Yeah, no, no my kids ain't soft at all, especially Essence. He's super. He's back asleep. Yeah, you snoring again. I heard him. For sure. What's his name? No, we can't say his name.
Starting point is 01:31:35 No, it's not safe. No, James Bond. Fucker. Herb. Fucker? That's his name, Fucker. Herb. Give it up for guys I'm a man of my own I'm a man of my own
Starting point is 01:32:08 I'm a man of my own I'm a man of my own I'm a man of my own I'm a man of my own I'm a man of my own Thanks for watching!

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