The Adam Friedland Show (Cumtown) - GOV. GAVIN NEWSOM Talks California, ICE, New Book

Episode Date: March 4, 2026

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What a legend he is. It's kind of like Chevy Chase had that reputation too. I don't know. You like it, right? Jerry Lewis? It's like filmic to like it. Yeah. He's just being annoyed.

The French really know funny. This is gold. Are we starting? Are we starting back up? When are we walking back in? Let's just start here with the Jerry Lewis is annoying and the French don't know anything that's funny. I don't want to get, I don't need to do a walk out.

Jerry Lewis. He's a legend. Jerry, if you're watching, you're a legend. I think he's dead, no? He's dead. He's dead. He's dead. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another special episode of The Adam Freeland show. I'm Adam Freeland. I'm once again recording from home because I'm gravely injured yesterday while trying to pick up this very large water bottle right here. I threw out my back and I'm now at home resting and medicating with this pill. But as we know, the show must go on and our guest this week is sitting California governor Gavin Newsom, whose new memoir, Young Man in a Hurry, is available now wherever books are sold. It's actually Gavin Newsom's third.

book, Following Citizenville, my personal favorite, and Ben and Emma's big hit. A gripping sports drama that follows two school children as they learn how to read using baseball. Young men in a hurry certainly doesn't carry the same rereadability, but it's the kind of book that you have to write because you write it before you run for the president. But here's hoping that someday down the line, Gavin returns to the Ben and Emma series, perhaps petting an even bigger hit. Please enjoy my interview with Gavin Newsom. The book is Young Man in a Hurry.

It's about trying to find a bathroom, right? Yeah, I did. Well, I finally found one of the third floor. By the way, it's a fine... You haven't been up to the third floor bathroom. You should get up there. If they actually have a better bathroom than us, ours is like...

Well, you don't even have a toilet in yours, so let's establish some facts. We have two toilets and in your eye. You don't right now. You have one toilet and there's someone in there working. Why are you talking... You're letting them all know they're the second floor. I'm just trying to be honest with people about where we are.

Can you beat second, everyone? I really appreciate you coming on. Good to be with you, man. How's the book tour? How are you enjoying it? It just came out yesterday. You're moving units? Are you moving bad years?

I mean, this may be the end of the book tour. Day two. Yeah, yeah. Would you get on the SATs, by the way? You know, really? We just jump right there. What did you get on your SAT? Let's have that conversation.

I don't remember, actually. I don't know. Oh, you're one of those guys. I think I got like 14 or something. Yeah, exactly. Right. So what? Yeah, well, 960.

Is anything wrong with that? Yeah, you are. You probably are. I was going to take it to Gary. You are smart. I don't know that I'm smart, but I've got 960 SAT, which by the way is, you know, that's a fact. And I was going to do it again. My mother said, don't waste your time.

First of all, you got $1,600. He's doing the George Bush thing right now. Yes, you are. My wife, I think, may have gotten 16. Did she? Did she? By all appearances, you, like, seem like this, the lawyer to politician. You know, aesthetically, you look like that?

I was doing pre-law in college. You're the restaurant. That was the plan. Your restaurant odor to politicians. All screwed up. It all went south on me. So as you and Bobert are the two restaurant odor to politicians. By the way, well, there's a few others.

Hick and Looper. We used to hang out. Well, there was a bunch of mayors. John Ingleabor's mayor of Denver. He's a senator now. It was governor of Colorado. All those guys, Martin O'M. There was a sort of group of people that were just different because they all had bar experience.

They all had a bar experience. So I'm a bar guy. I'm a restaurant guy. I'm a restaurant guy. hanging out or you did a letter? I'm not with Boulder. I don't know. I've never met her.

You know what at a restaurant is called shooters? It's a gun-themed restaurant. Oh, that just makes sense. And apparently it's a diarrhea-themed restaurant I've heard, too. I think we're going to get sued. But that's who I... By the way, if I had an identity, it would be that restaurant guy. I still have a bunch of them.

And that's why when I'm done with politics, I'll go back to the bar and restaurants. Is that what you're going to do now that you're done with governor? I've got to sell-by-date. You're going to be an author slash restaurant store? I'm going to grow a beard. and then I'm probably just going to start delivering, you know, wine again or something. I don't know what I'm in the day. That's what you're going to do?

Well, you've kind of stepped up, you've kind of ascended, right? You were like city council, kind of parking in traffic, brother. So you started at parking in traffic? Yes, don't forget that. Then you went to, you worked your way up, mayor of San Francisco? No, I worked my way down to supervisor, then mayor. Yeah. But down, I was chair.

To meter made? Chair of, by the way, I changed the name meter made to parking control office. Oh, this is one to go on record. This woke bullshit. Yeah, that was, you know, by the way, it was. It was very emotional. People appreciated that. By the way, we did something... Which was with the meter mates? Yeah, it's in the book. It's actually... Lovely Rita?

You must have read the damn book. We're talking about stuff. I read the book. Okay. We not only changed... See, I actually accomplished something at parking traffic commissioner. We changed the name from meter maid to parking control office, and then we did parking control officer of the month. Did you give them guns? They don't have guns. Yeah, yeah. No. That's why they're the least respected cops, because they don't have guns. But meter maids is, you know, that... Don't you like parking control officer better? I have no respect until they get the gun.

Okay. I'm sorry. They get a gun and then we'll talk. In the book, talk about a pellet gun that was used to shoot one of the parking control officers. Yeah, and if they had an AR-13, they would have been- Jesus. Well, they had an AR-15, it would mean more impressive than the 13. I don't even know what that is.

I don't know what a 15 is. They made a new one. Okay. San Francisco, from what I understand, is kind of in terms of California politics, kind of like, it's a talent factory, right? Weirdly, right? I mean, he may not, he may despise all of us, but it conveys all these. Former Vice President. Yeah, and then alleged Willie Brown, who is connected all this.

There's sort of this Brown-Burton-Pelosi machine that it's referred to in Northern California. And it's, by the San Francisco, man, everybody, I mean, the folks out on the streets and sidewalks know all about you. Yeah. Kavda all about you. It's 24-7 surround sound political engagement. So you've got to be on your game all the time. And it's a big enough city and small enough city that you're expected to know everything and be everywhere and do everything. I'd go when I was a kid to SF, like, because I had family that lived there.

And it was a, it's a magical place. I mean, it's an unbelievable place. It's also, I was saying to you on the phone, it's like when it's winter everywhere else, it's like 75. And when it's summer everywhere else, it's like 32 degrees. It's like, it's really doing its own thing. But it's also just like, it's on the West Coast, but it's like confined by geography. So they build up. It's like a real city.

By the way, it was, you know who said it was about the summers? It was, who the hell said it was? Alec Gisburg. No, when in doubt it was Alan Gisberg. That's San Francisco was Ginsburg. No, but it was Mark Twain who said the coldest winter he ever spent was a summer in San Francisco because of the fog that comes in. And you get September, September October, man.

It's the most beautiful weather. And Golden Gate Park is stunning, but you go down to Chrissy Field. walk down there right near the bay under the Golden Gate Bridge come on Procedo there's nothing like it anywhere in the world is one of the most spectacular cities for all the hate that they're streaming about a lot of those burning man kind of singularity let's do Kennedy and fucking by the way I was like that was my those are my people back in the day I started do Burning Man I started to do burning man sculptures when I was so they started to put it out there

I never went but I brought they always they always they They were bringing the sculptures back. I'm like, can't we put the stuff out? We can't have a president that goes, I'm not saying you're going to, whatever. You never been a burry man? No way. Back when it was cool. Okay, the only way is.

Now it's all, you know, gentry man's gentrified. No, no, no, it's never been cool. It's ridiculous. You never bought into that. It's ridiculous. You haven't tried ketamine? You never did that. It's really, it's, the whole thing.

I don't know. Listen, I have a lot of people talking about ketamine. Oh, the phone yesterday, we, we, it was like two alpha. This is what happens when two alphas get together. butt heads. And let's just say the cameras weren't on but it is one nothing me. Oh, really? Is that how we're starting this? Wow. Okay. So you've edited the first part of this and I'm just going to like jump right into it's one nothing new. So the book it's not like a celebration of you. But what you shouldn't be so competitive. It's not zero zero something.

We're all in this together man. We're all in this together. Yeah, your success is my we're all in this together. No, no. You don't buy that? No, no. Are you one of those people that begrudge other people's success? Like, you just like, damn, man, that guy. If they suck. If it's like the squad, if it's the team and they're eating, that's great. You're good. I'm happy for the boys. I used to be that. This guy's going to win Academy Award. This guy. Is this guy right now? He's an unbelievable talent. Well, as long as we edit a few of the things and we're all right. Are you an editor or just a cinematographer? No, with the camera there. He's just a cinema. Director of photography. Yeah, it's not. Yeah. Forgive me. Is that it? Do you pay them accordingly?

Why are they laughing, man? He doesn't have... What is that? What is, how are you guys all doing here? He's, uh, he's undocumented. You guys unionized? What is this? Shut the fuck up.

Oh, two, okay. Oh, wow. The chest match, continue. Yeah, no, I'm just saying. The chestmas continue. Okay. Um, I guess it's, this is a very confessional book. It kind of ends right before your gubernatorial term.

Yeah. It's much more about where you come from and who you are. So like, when someone reads this book, which I'm sure everyone is... Unbelievable. You're going to get it. Day two. Buy the book. Buy the book. We're going to move the music.

Best way to buy it is in bulk. Yeah, yeah. Go to Costco, buy a packet. What do you want people to know about you? What do you think the message is? Well, then I'm not this politician. I mean, this is about me. You are a political.

I know, but the political side. It's that I'm a work in progress. I'm human. I make mistakes. I'm not trying to be something I'm not. I'm trying to actually express that I, tried to be someone I was not. And I walked through that. I put a mask on and I tried to be, you know, try to strike a pose, tried to be what people expected me to be and I didn't, you know,

made mistakes. I didn't feel good about myself and securities, anxieties. And so I scrutinized all that, man. I dove deep. It was a five-year process. And I called it a memoir of discovery because I didn't even understand all this stuff about my background, my life, my parents, my mom died 20 years ago, my dad died right after I got elected. And I never had a chance to talk to them about their childhood and their backgrounds and their struggles and and so this allowed me to do that and I just it was I learned about this house of secrets how did you do it did you interview people like yeah yeah went back I got FBI files I didn't know there's tons of FBI files in the family really I didn't know my grandfather was close to Oppenheimer I had I had someone had randomly

mentioned I didn't know about his suicide and what led to it I didn't know that he was a prisoner war to marching in Corrigador in World War II I I didn't know about my the dad's forays into some interesting mob-related issues as it relates to old San Francisco back in the day. They didn't know my origin story of the Newsom's was an Irish cop. And my dad used to say he didn't know what came first, the Irish cop or San Francisco. And so you'd just start to learn about all that. And it sort of makes sense. All of a sudden you're like, that's why this is interesting.

Or that's why my father did this 20 years ago. Or that's why they got divorced. I didn't know why my parents got divorced. Because your dad lost two races. Yeah, lost two races. Why my mom said don't get into politics. I didn't know why she didn't want me to get in politics, but it wrecked their marriage.

It wrecked her youth, her life. She was 19. And he was how old? 32? 33, man. As he described it, scandal. Yeah. You know, she's 19, bro.

That's tough. That's ridiculous. And imagine being like 19 and a couple years later with two kids and you come from no money, man. And a broken household. I mean, her family, a mess in terms of just how she was raised. Her brother was a red, right? Her mother moved to the Soviet Union. She used a Soviet Union.

Pretty cool. Trigger at us. That was her stage. She was an actress. She was an actress that was a movie. It's like that movie Reds. Yeah. And that's why the, thus the FBI files on her parents.

That they were, you know, they were, you know, they were, you know, they're very involved in, you know, in social justice, and economic and racial justice. My great-great grandmother's suffragette back in the day. So it's interesting, this advocacy that ran through it. But she didn't talk about that. No one talked about it. I didn't know about it. wrote this book. One thing that's unique about you is that America is a place where no one's from somewhere

for five generations. Yeah, it's weird. You're a fifth generation in San Francisco. This isn't like a thing in this country. People aren't tied to a geographical place. I want to make the point you're making because you just reminded me to something. No BS. When I was mayor, I think I was at one point, I was the only elected official in San Francisco

from San Francisco. Really? And it was like used against me. Yeah. Like I remember saying, when I grew up, you know, and I was the one. the media, people are like, who the, the, you think you are, man? I'm like, I don't know, I just grew up here. I talked about the old neighborhood.

They're like, well, some elitist. Where was everyone else from burning, man? Yeah, it was from burning, man. But you know what? That San Francisco is like, someone described it is 47 square miles surrounded by reality. Right, a city of dreamers, reality, O'Brien, East Bay. Yeah. Belayo?

Hercules. No, you remember Hercules? It's still there. Oh, really? Do you ever a ghost ride the whip? No? Have you? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. A lot of my friends actually hurt themselves severely in high school trying to ghost ride the way. Have you ever heard the whistle go, whoop, whoop, who? What's the whistle doing, whoop, whoa? No, no. By the way, one of the things you've got to do, no BS. Like, to really appreciate San Francisco, you got to walk the cable up the Golden Gate Bridge to the top. It sounds scary.

It's off the chart. Amazing. Really? Done it twice. It is. Too scary, bro. Zen-like, relaxing. You want beauty, man.

You look at that. You look down at Alcatraz. You see the skyline of San Francisco, the Farallon Islands, all the great white sharks are. Marin County, you know, eat your heart out. All those folks on Fox just talking down to my old city. It is a spectacular place. And so five generations there. My kid's sixth generation, which is crazy.

We finally moved. You're a great, great guy on. They started the fire? Is that right? They started. They started in 06. You know the coolest things? I was there on Enron about this.

There's a beautiful Lottis Fountain is where everyone came after the earthquake. And it was like the only working water. And remember, it wasn't the fire, it wasn't, excuse me, it wasn't the earthquake that destroyed the city. It was the great fire afterwards. And so people started to descend on this area.

And we had the 100th anniversary when I was mayor, 2006. And I remember going down, and there was five or six survivors. And it went live. I interviewed people at five in the morning. freezing cold and there's these wonderful ladies wrapped up and they looked all demure and what old were they a hundred and two like no like 106 seven crazy and and and and one of me and so we're live on I think it was the today show or something I'm trying to be the MC mayor yeah tell me what do you remember that day and that's cute and a few

cute things and then one woman says oh I remember getting frisky with my boyfriend in the tent. And I'm like, what are you, like, 14 years old or something? I can't even remember how old. So she was a hundred and fourteen years old? I think she was making it up or something, but it was like, she got deep into the inappropriate stuff and like, I'm live, I'm trying to act all, we're good. And he'll be right back after the commercial break.

And I went to the forest and pulled my skirt off for the boys. I was like, so anyway, that's San Francisco, man. It's, by the way, interesting. Just we're the, the flag of San Francisco is the Phoenix. Oh, I didn't know that. Phoenix rising. from the ashes in the 06 Earth. That's pretty pimp.

Which I feel like is where we are today or where we'll be in the future after we're done with Trump. Can I rapid fire quiz? San Francisco quiz. Who's the best San Francisco band ever? Bro, I was just with I was with Bobby Weir's family.

Oh, the funeral. Funeral, man. I mean, they gave me up. It has to be. It has to be. I mean, come up, but the dead are just so synonymous with everything.

How many shows have you been to? Not many, and they actually rubbed that in when I was there. You did a little bit of that. No. In fact, I write about that. No, that was weird. You said you never did weed.

No, it was weird. I never got into that. So you stood there listening to, didle, deedle, deedle for four hours, not doing any weed? It was the opposite. How did you do that? You know I was the first dead concert I went to. I wasn't even in the concert.

I was working for, I wasn't working. I was volunteering for the Environmental Defense Fund. And I had a booth. And I was out there promoting the environment. I was that guy. Here's second question. What's the best San Francisco delicacy? Oh, a Lucas.

What is seriously asking? Why do you ask that? How do you not know that? Lucas. Lucas Deli on Chestnut Street. Oh, Delicatessen or Deliccate? Delicatessen. Okay.

Who is the best San Francisco football star who later played at USC and won the Heisman Trophy and then played for the Buffalo Bills, ran for 2,000 yards in one season, was in the naked gun and then was falsely accused of who is the best? Man, I ain't going to OJ. What are you talking about? That's your goat, bro. That's my goat. Back to the editing.

I want to get, can we edit this? I'm saying, what's the best band? What's the best delicacy? And who's the best football standout star? Mike? Come on, the best of the best. The goat. He later went to USC, won the Heismid trophy, playing for the public.

No, the goat is Joe Montana, bro. Number 16. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But he's not from there. Five rings. What? He's from S.F?

He is from my perspective. I don't know. Where did Joe Graf? I should know this. I've gotten to know him. Probably Burning Man. Everybody comes from Burning Man. They all just appeared from the middle of Earth and just all emerged. Oh, God.

Grow up, okay? I'm just saying. Grow. We're making a sculpture made out of lasers. Did you get, as a kid, were you injured by someone who went to Burning Man or something? No, it wasn't a thing of Burning Man. What was it? What offense?

I just don't even listen to the guys that are, like, quite frankly, going to ruin the world talking about drugs and the singularity. Singularity. There is a little, by the way, you're on to someone with all this. Those idiots, like, yeah, they know all the problems in the world, but they think only they can solve them. And then they're, oftentimes their solutions are just moronic solutions. Thank you.

Yeah. No, we're now actually, I'm, I hear you. I got it. All right. Did you see when Uber invented, they were like, it's called Uber like route and you can just hop on and it goes on a route and they just invented. to the bus. Yeah, like, they acted like this, the new... Yeah, I will say.

There's such dildos of those guys. They definitely destroyed the taxi industries, we know. But by the way, when you're in San Francisco, I saw Waymo just announced they're rolling out to 10 more cities. They've been in six, but that future started in San Francisco first. Yeah. And I got, no bullshit the other day, I have a picture. I think there were six Waymos in front of me, driverless cars in traffic.

I mean, it's, like, stuff's happening in real time. Have you bid it what? Yes. It's a confident driver. It's a confident. I thought it would be like a granny, but the robot is confident. It's confident. And then there are the Zooks, which are not even cars.

That sounds like a slur. That sounds like a slur. That sounds like a slur. By the way, the flying cars are coming too for the Olympics. They're going to have the first sort of quad flying cars. So that's the next iteration. It's all Jetsons are here, man, not the Flintstones. Yeah.

You don't like that either? Can we just go to the doctor, I guess? I just have help. I went to your third-story bathroom, man. That's old school. So that's maybe, you know. You were a suit kid to school. I was kind of, I was a dork.

I told you. My sister said that. She, like, was very, I was trying to be like Remington. I love Pierce Bros. I don't know. I love Pierce Bros. I don't know. But did you chill at a crew of other suit guys or you were the only suit guy?

I was the only, I was a complete loser. I mean, absolute loser. I had a flock of seagull haircut. Look it up. You guys are too young. You don't know. We know what it is. We're not you.

Back in the day. And it was bad, man. It was bad. But suit bad grades is psychotic. Yeah, no, I was struggling, man. Suit bad grades is crazy. Why is that? It's just crazy.

I didn't like. You're a suit bad grades, but I don't buy it. I think you're a liar. Because I think... What if it was a liar? There I got photos. I mean, Jesus. You bat 460?

No, it was pretty good. You're a senior year and you were suit bad... Yeah, I was pretty good. Bad grades 460 makes sense. But I was a pretty good athlete back then. Now you have to be, you know, like, I mean, like eight graders. are better than I was in high school today. Dude.

No, I was like basketball, baseball, and that saved me, man. Sports saved me. Got me into college. That's how you get into college, about the 9-under or whatever. Okay. Yeah, you don't have to see this. Dude, why are you doing this? You're doing like Jewish comedy with this book.

I'm not to be Jewish comedy. My mother sent me to the, to a, go. Look at this. Look at everyone. Look, do you think. Okay, what are you showing? This is a suit guy. That was it.

Yeah, there's my clock. This is the guy who lost his virginity at 11. That's not, by the way, did not. This is the coolest guy I've ever. see my life. I want to need him. I think I was senior in high school. So you become cool at that point? By the way, you see the flock of seagull haircut under the hat?

It's barely a flocked to the doggy. That was it. It sounded like you were gothic. You, they had a little thing. I'll never forget. I think it was, I can't remember her name. Tracy, whatever, she was one of the chairs. Lords.

Dippity do, dipity do, divety do, Gavin Gap, it was like one of those, we love, you know, some weird cheer. A girl had a cheer for you? It was like a cheer. I, one thing, I don't know. I toss around my mind is like, is this like a preemptive, like, defense of, like, things that you get hit on. Yeah.

Right. Because you look like, you look like, just like your dad is the CEO of the money company, right? You look on incredible. I mean, he's one of the hottest guys. I wish them. And politics is ugly. Politics is ugly people, right?

Well, yeah, wait. You have to chill with, it's Hollywood for a gremlins. Yeah. It's Hollywood for people. You're like, you're walking around. You're like, the talent is not. That's how. What are we talking about that?

What are you talking about? But what I'm saying is this, it's like, you're saying like, no, my mother struggles. She had multiple jobs. Yeah. Yeah, three jobs all our lives. She died, you know, as I said, 20 years ago. Tell us about your dad. My dad was, he wasn't around.

He disappeared when we were kids. He ran for a county supervisor, state senate, lost, said he was broke and broke in, and then just took off and went to Lake Tahoe region. And near Truckee became an attorney up there and eventually became a judge. But he was, he was an activist. judge. So it was like social justice, racial justice, environmental justice, that's why I was out there with EDF, Environmental Defense Fund. He was on the board at the dead concert. So he always, there was always cause-oriented. You always had social justice. And that was the influence he provided, but was

my mom's ethic, hard work and grit. But what happened and what I write about in here is my, the perception of me besides the blue suits and, you know, all that, was the association with the Getty family, which is a wealthy family. Your dad was like a conigliary kind of to all the sons? Yeah, and he was just, he grew up with two of the kids in high school, and they basically were raised by my grandfather. They used to show up at Boss Newsom, and they called him boss back then, and they just became boss back in the day.

But just became incredibly close, including, by the way, my dad was Paul Getty's godson, or godfather, who's one who had his ear cut off, was kidnapped. Oh, in the ransom. Yeah, and your dad did deliver the ransom? He didn't do the direct ransom, but it was deeply part of it, which I describe in the book. And it was sort of a sort of worldwide phenomenon back in the day. And sort of like Dolce Vite's 70s day, one of the world's first billionaires with Jay Paul Getty, like actually one of the first.

Yeah. And he refused to provide the ransom for his grandson. It became an issue. and eventually only did. I respect that. Well, he said, he said, I got 13 others or 20 others, however many he had. He said, now I'd be writing a check for all of them.

That is crazy. You're still here. And so the guy, so what they did, that cut his ear off. They're like, we need business. And they put it in an envelope, and there was a strike in Italian strikes that didn't arrive in the mail for a while. And it was kind of deteriorated.

And Paul, lucky, survived, because they gave him a date certain that they would take his own. other ear and other parts of his body off. And eventually the ear arrived and there was a freckle on it that his mom recognized to verify it. And that's when they got very serious about getting him home. One thing I was wondering is like your dad had a relationship with one of the children where he was kind of like ran his investments.

Yeah, he was. Yeah, he was working for one. There's many. Like the family trust. Yeah. And so he, after he was judge and retired from judge, he began a more. formal role. He was always the family. Did that help with alibony? Did that help your mom? No, he didn't get, in fact, I talk about how much you got paid, which was less than I got paid as governor.

So he didn't, he never made any money. I mean, significant money. There's a perception that he made a ton of money. He died, my dad died with a house in the gold country, a very conservative part. Sounds rich. Sounds rich. Because it's just, yeah. Yeah, it sounds very rich to me. An old cabin in Dutch flat California with two mortgages. And his inheritance was all these books. that I talk about never reading because I have... Dyslexia. Pretty bad learning. Yeah, that's not my jam, less than 960.

And so, anyway, I talk about that in relationship to some of the academic struggles, my reading struggles, which, you know, I don't read speeches today. I don't like, I'm a politician that doesn't read a speech because I can't read a speech. And that may not be interesting, and many of that people, maybe they'll go, oh, that's why you're so boring and bad. I get it, you know, those that hate me. Well, did it help you learn how to shrews? Yeah, because you're more, you just pick up a room.

You talk about whether or not people are unionized, how much they're getting paid. You know, you just feel a different vibe. You have no idea. You have no idea what I've come here for you. Yeah. I got your back now. I'm a nerd. What's your pension?

I'm six three and I'm a nerd the book. You don't have a pension? Why do you write a book about health care? Are you doing full-time health care for these guys? Yes, I am, boys. How's the health care? Give it up for the boys. Maybe I won't get all this thing.

Give it up for the boys. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. What do you got? Maybe you can help me by, I don't have to pay for it. We could do it through the taxes. I don't really know much about dyslexia, but whatever they, whatever they want to do in the Castro district is fine by me. What's the last time you heard Castro?

Constantly every day? By the way, you know what you need to do? A lot of people go to the Castro Street Fair. You got to do the Folsom Street Fair. That's like the bondage one. Yeah, yeah. You go to that? You go to that?

I remember the first time. For me to a gimp? I never forget the first time I went there. I want to say what I'm going to say. I'm not going to say. Yeah. I still am in, I still, I'm facing even more recall. You saw one of the biggest petuses you've ever seen in your life?

I've got what you, I can never unsee what I saw. Really? Yeah. I'm looking at it right now, I just, but I can't share it. We're jumping around a bit, but like the first time I became aware of you was like, you were like performing gay marriages. Like, you were kind of the first, you kind of like invented it. You kind of came up with the idea of two fellas getting food.

Do you think that it made San Francisco a place for like gay people like to live in? We married 4,036 couples for 46 states, six countries. In the winter, not summer of love, February 2004 in San Francisco, man, it was off the charts amazing. Like next level, just spirit, pride, the stuff that politics. You can't legislate that. It just, it happens.

People coming together, pilots and firefighters, doctors, so extraordinary because nothing about it was that extraordinary. It's just about love, man. It was just about people expressing their love, faith, and devotion, and partnership. And that energy was, you know, just, it inspires, you know, just a mindset of what public service can and should be. It also was against the law. And they say you to Alcatrazine?

You know he's working on. He's doing. Well, no, he's, well, he's, well, he's. It's doing the $400 million Kremlin Imperial Palace there. But he's spending your tax dollars now reviewing whether to turn out the tras back into a federal prison.

That'd be kind of cool, actually. The Rock. Won that great movie? That was when movies were great. So sick. So sick where he dives and the nuclear. Yeah, yeah, so sick. That's good.

And that. Great, San Francisco Flick. Thank you. Yes. We got to go back to the Rock. The Rock. Yeah. I want to talk to you.

First of all, I really appreciate your time. And I think we've done enough for this grab-assing and you know you know the one we start the interview we're doing but you have an announcement to make what is that so why don't you go ahead boxers what do you want to what you're gonna shut the what you promise what's the announcement it's big it would be big for the show unbelievable just do it for me do come honestly I was nice enough to have you all Even if you take it back, even if you say, psych, I'm not running for president.

Just say it on the show, I'll get a clip, it'll go viral. It'll be, it'll be good for me. I was nice enough to invite you. You are nice enough to invite me. I've been nice enough to organize your staff, get them kind of health care and pension they deserve. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You were nice enough to write a book like they all do before they announce that they're running.

Yeah, yeah, a politician of the book. I'm surprised you had me on, man. But your book is called I'm Not Cool, Ashley, even though you're six three and a piece of, Six two. You're a smoke. I can't even look at you. I can't even look at you. California is what, the fourth largest economy at this point?

$4.3 trillion a year. The attitude in America isn't like, oh, these big, just because they're so big and strong, they look down on us. The attitude is like poop covered, hobo-infested hellscape. Right. Yeah, pisses me off. So the question is, like, obviously, you've explained that this is like something that kind of the Murdoch-Syshed.

sphere has pushed for 20 years. That makes total sense. But like if you are being attacked on those grounds directly, if you're meeting someone, or let's say, not even attacked, let's say you meet someone in the middle of the country. Yeah. Right? Some guy at the Iowa State Fair, he's eating fraud shit or whatever.

Are you gonna have to eat fried shit at the Iowa? No, it's a, it's fried with fried butter, you know, I don't know. You literally you had a restaurant, you had a nice restaurant. You're like, oh, I love this fried turd. Come on. If someone comes up to you and they say, you are a governor of a failed state.

If they say to you, your shit sucks, it's your fault. Yeah, cool. You let in busloads of hobos and illegals. This is a common perception. How do you address a person directly? Well, I mean, we can talk about the fact we went from the sixth largest economy, the fourth largest economy.

We can talk about the fact we went from 49 to 58. Fortune 500 headquartered companies more than any other state in the nation. We could talk about having more scientists, engineers, more Nobel laureates, the finest system of higher education anywhere in the world. We could talk about the fact where the center of innovation and entrepreneurialism with AI, with quantum, with robotics, with autonomy, dominating in research and development is the third largest R&D center in the world. We could talk about being the most diverse state and the world's most diverse democracy, and we're living in advancing together across our differences. We can talk about it being a tonic for our toxic politics. We can talk about how California's energy and daring across the spectrum of issue on climate change,

on social policy, on racial policies, and social justice policies are the dominant policies that have influenced more change across this country than any other state. I can begin there, and then I can get to the details of what the issue that they want me to address is and try to balance that. Okay, I'm a guy like in Dayton, Ohio. I don't know what any of that means. I just heard it's covered in poop and stuff, okay? Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. So why do you just say, like, bro, it's mad nice. It's California. It's mad nice. We have the beach. It's gorgeous. Like, just come visit. It's mad nice, actually.

Right? That's what people say about New York. After you're a burning man, come to California. It's mad nice. It's nice. It's a nice place. It's nice restaurants. They got beaches.

You're in the deserts. You like the mountains. That guy's not going to care about clean air. The Nobel laureates. You don't like all the economic. It's really nice. But I'm saying a regular guy who's heard for 20 years that it sucks. Yeah.

Just be like, bro, just come through. It's nice. Yeah, it's nice. Right? By the way, this is. It's actually gorgeous. Why do I have political consultants? I honestly, I'm smart.

No, no, like actually, like no bullshit. Like everyone is watching this is like their team, like two nothing right now. Just say, bro, it's nice. No, it's bad. It's got my ass kick. Right? 100%. I sound like a fucking politician.

Yeah, going through limous. Just as mad nice, man. Honestly. Come on. Come on. Beautiful, man. I mean it. Maddeny.

Walk with me in Venice Beach. You think he feels me? Santa Monica. I'm dead serious. I thank you, bro. No, I appreciate the vibe. And it's a California vibe, which is ironic. Yeah.

Just be like, dude, it's shit. California dreaming, man. There's haw girls. There's nice beaches. It's just nice. The West Coast has the sunshine. The weather is good. And the girls are, you know, yeah.

Yeah, you know it. Just like, have you heard the beach boys? Yeah, yeah. By the way, you know what? That is the vibe we need back. See, I'm not even, I'm not, I'm dead serious. I appreciate this. You're right. You're 100% what happens. And by the way, I write about this in the book. But that's what I, there's, I have this defensiveness about a lot of this stuff. And that comes across and it comes across is slick and bullshit. And you called it out. I appreciate that.

You're doing like the eight mile thing where you're like, I live in a train. It's like, but it's actually true. But it was true. It's like, I'm like, I'm a hard. I'm hotter than the rest of the school that are in the government. My mom deserves me to tell her truth, and so I told the truth. But look, you want the court- I connected a lot with the story of her passing, because I was there for my mother's passing five years ago. What were you doing?

Well, I'd like you to share your story from the book first. Yeah, that was intense, man. So you literally went through the same thing. Well, I wasn't, like, busy. I was, like, there for three months. Okay, so through the whole, the end. Yeah, you were, like, the mayor. I was an ass, you know, I was a little piece of shit son that was not paying attention to her.

She calls me, leaves a voice message and says, if you want to see me, you should see me before next Thursday because I'll be my last day. And I'm like, that's a hell of a voice message. And called my sister and like, what's going on? She goes, well, you haven't been around. You should pay an attention. Mom is doing an assisted suicide. And it was illegal back then. It was 20 years ago.

And so she got a courageous doctor. And I started spending a little time with her and sort of, you know, talk about a pattern erupt in life, get your shit together, focus on what matters, not just yourself and what you're trying to achieve and be. And it was intense, man. I went there. Everyone spent time with my mom in the room, the back. Everyone's in the living room in her apartment. And she just wanted to be with my sister and I as the doctor gave her the final, you know, whatever the cocktail was. Yeah.

Doctor leaves and says, it's all set, just quietly disappears. My sister on one side, I'm on the other side. We're looking through all our old photos, the sort of 70s type photographs. And she's just, oh, I remember there, and then she's having a hard time breathing. My sister just panics and just takes off. And she's like, can I say, go. And then I didn't know what to do. And I was there with her by myself in those last sort of violent breasts.

And then just put my head on her stomach and was there quietly for another 10, 15 minutes, just bawling and just reflecting on what a piece of shit I was, not to be there always ones. What impact did that experience? What did that change? I hated her. Piss me off. I was like, don't do that. Yeah, don't.

Like, who allows their kids to be there to go through this? Well, I think a lot of people are doing it that way. Yeah. I just felt that at the time. I felt, and like, because I saw my sister. her breaking down, I'm like the pain she was struggling with. Like I was so glad she wasn't there to experience that. But no bullshit.

And I write a lot about it. Over the process of a five-year period, that's why that memoir discovery, man, I'm now holding in her hand. That breath is my brother. I don't want to be modeling about it. And I'm so thankful to her that she gave me that privilege. And it took years to understand that. Did you, have you consider that she wanted to,

be with you and your sister at that moment, right? Yeah. She wanted to be surrounded by the two of me. She saw it. Yeah, man. It was a, make me, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she said, and I remember the last words.

She said, yeah. Sure. Hey, man. Yeah. That's, you don't get those things back. And so, you know, when you're asshole in a hurry, you know, this is like I'm growing up, man. And every day I'm growing up.

And I'm trying to be a better father. I've got 10-year-old tomorrow. 12, 14, 16 year old and better husband. And so that's the journey I'm on, man. Yeah. I had the same experience. I think I told my dad I didn't want to be there. My dad said, that's your choice, obviously.

And then it ended up that I was there. Yeah. It was the right thing. Was it at home or was it? It was at home. Yeah, it was at home. Yeah, it was like the first three months of COVID. She had brain cancer.

So, yeah. We're all there. God bless. Yeah, yeah. She was the best. She was twit. She was twit. I was very close with her. Yeah. How old was she? She was 28, 28 or 68. 68? Too young. Too young. Yeah. Really, really low. My mom was, I'm much older than my mom when she passed away, which is, by the way, when you get to that age, that's a hell of a birthday.

When you outlive your parents, when you meet that moment where you're like, Jesus. And my mom would die at the age I am. You're like, so you just, you start to count blessings, man. And the days, you know, the finality of it, you know, momental boring. You know, you can walk around with that, this notion the finality of this. What was the issue? She was just hard on you? She was, like, exhausted from work and then she, like, told you your average.

Yeah, man, because I was. I was struggling. I was bouncing out of schools and, you know, always faking, being sick. And, you know, I honestly, like, you know, people have done. certain degrees of dyslexia. I literally couldn't do books. I faked reading. I was got into Cliff Notes. I'd copy the Cliff Notes and submit a book report. Yeah. Getting caught. I mean, it's pathetic. I used to chew off. Did you? Yeah. Well, kind of. It was out of laziness. Out of laziness. Yeah, because the 1600s. It was too easy. It just got bored.

But yeah, no, for me it was like desperation. Anyway, so she, one night I'm just, you know, she's trying to put me to bed. She's back late from, you know, working. I'm not going to bed. I'm crying, and she's like, it's okay to be average. And I'm like, fuck you. That's really nice, actually, to say. You don't have to get straight-A. I thought at the time that wasn't harsh in hindsight, but it was harsh at the moment.

And it was her just saying it's okay to be yourself. See, I didn't see it like that. My parents told me it wasn't acceptable about to get straight-a-d-a-d-d- I never had that expectation. My parents are Chinese. They're Mandarin. Tiger parents. Tiger parents.

Yeah, they're Mandarin. No, I totally understand it. It does change completely everything, you know? Yeah. It changes your perception of kind of what the point of everything is. And I feel like it seems as if you've got in here, got in there now.

It's a very raw perspective. Do you feel like politicians have to like be more, I don't know, we like didn't know that FDR was in a wheelchair. No, I know. Right? Yeah. Kennedy was just like slaying. Yeah, it was like.

Barely could have his back with movement. his own steroids and all pumped up with all kinds of shit. We didn't know his body was broke. Yeah. Like, you know, we didn't know that Reagan was a senile. No, I mean, you know, like, do you think that, that's the problem. There's an aspect of public life now that you have to disclose. You have to, because of, I guess, a concept of authenticity that, like, you have to kind of be more forthcoming

because people respond to it more? I think it's, I think the proverbial over 10 windows, as they refer to it, but you know, it provides a little bit more latitude and grace in that respect. But I think I think you can't get through this nowadays without people. It's like calling the bullshit like you did on my answer on California. And honestly, I think people just want to just be yourself, man, let it go. And that's what this book is. It's me, as I said, scrutinizing, not sanitizing who I am. And you may not like me even more.

You may not like me more because of this conversation. It is what it is, man. I can't control that. And I always was trying to do that. I was always trying to control things. That's why I put the gel on. That's why I put the suits on in high school. That's why I tried to be like people I wasn't.

That's why I was trying to always be something and not spend time with my mom like I should have. And people and family and friends. And so I went, so I think, you know, I went through this recall in California. They almost took me out. And I'll tell you, I don't, you know, no one gives a shit. But when you're on the receiving end of the humility of having a recall qualify,

when you literally. But you've mugged. You, you did. No, but honestly, it was a non-presidential election year. It was a special election. Special election. You won by a landslide. But enough people were like, I'm going to go to the polls.

I'm going to go to the polls to be like that I want to save Gavin. It was wild. Because the people that want to vote against you really. want to vote against you, right? And you also were lucky you didn't have Arnold Schwarzenegger. Otherwise, if you ran against fucking Conan the Barbarian, dude, Ray Davis was fucked. You know, you know, California.

You got some guy for Ray. We're going to, you know, wake up, you know, this stage. It's so pan-tham. You know, these Democrats, you know, they don't. You're just so stupid, you know, slow. Looking at your career, I see like three inflection points kind of the, were just like, there's, that was one of them. That is the third.

I would say kind of like the gay marriage. Yeah, and then running against the big dog, getting Lenoed basically, right? Running. Yeah, like you know how they gave Coden the Tonight Show and then Leno wanted to come back? Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, so Jerry Brown kind of kind of... Oh, yeah, interesting, that's interesting, you picked that up. Yeah, yeah, wow.

So that's the second inflection point. You do need to give your staff a raise. It's impressive, you picked up on that. They're not doing shit, dude. It's all the other, that's why they're not. That's why they're not. That's why they're talking. You said he won't get some damn Academy Award, so you do.

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Jesus, wipes up Bernie Man. ICBM. What do you think of the whole singular that freaks you out, don't it? Are you, what? What? AI, how panicked are you about AI? Seriously, I scale like one to ten. Is it like, are you, it's over?

You know, we're all going to be computer chip. I don't know. I don't have to make this show. Is this, are we? Guys, I don't have enough time. You know what time? Yeah, like, people call me about stuff and I'm like, really? My sister's, like, mad about the east way of the White House.

And I'm like, oh. She should be. Okay, it's Trump. He's obviously to build some gross crap. The people contributing to it are getting special deals using tax dollars, crony capitalism. And then they're like, that's for good. You should listen to your system. In the country, right now.

Well, that's a fact too. Right? I don't care about a ballroom as much as that. I get that. People are getting just as mad about that. We're like, we're funding a janiside. We're like, their concentration camps in America. And like, you're from California, right?

Yeah. I'm for the western part of the country. Like, I grew up around a lot of Latinos. And like, you worked in restaurant, you had restaurant industry. Like, these are people that fundamentally just want to make more money for their families. They work their asses off. They don't explain about anything. After what your stay went through in Los Angeles with the Marines, you know, I realized I just kind of went to the office the next day.

You know, life kind of continues as normal. What do you do if you're like, what do you do? This resonates with me because I'm like, why is everyone going to their office? Why are people fucking waking up to what's going on in this country? There's a fucking cage in Florida. Right. Thank you. Right now today.

Thank you. Just because what you just said is really important and I love the way you said it. And I like sort of the outrage. that you expressed. So last June, this all started, when Donald Trump federalized 4,000 National Guard in California and sent 700 active duty Marines,

not overseas, but to the second largest city in the United States of America, and war with his own country. Sent 5,000 troops. Talk about communities on edge. I've never seen that in my lifetime. No. And he also sent out this guy dressed up

as if he just came off a movie set from the 1930s. From the 1930s, no, bro, I wish it was the Falson Street. If it was the Falson Street, we would be in a very different place. It was right out of the 1930s. I mean, with the Himmler haircut, Greg Bovino, in his mass men where people are disappearing, cars are being smashed, windows are smashed,

people quite literally on edge, racially profiled, with sanction of the United States Supreme Court in their shadow docket that allow racial profiling on the basis of skin color where you congregate or your accent that's happening in the United States of America today. And that's why we drew the line and I shifted. I don't know if you've seen some of my social media. It literally shifted because I was like...

You say fuck a lot now. Yeah. You say the F word. That's why I'm counting on my cinematat, edit all that. Fuck. But like, fuck. No bullshit. I'm like, why are people more pissed off?

Why aren't you more outraged? Why are you going like you? Why did you go to work the next day? And I'm suede to your question. So we're filing lawsuits. We're trying to call this shit out. We're trying to put a mirror up to Donald Trump. That's why we ban private prisons in the state of California.

That's why we have most progressive laws as it relates to getting masked men saying you can't unmasked these masked men saying it was fine. First law saying you can't wear a fucking mask. You got to show your ID. You got to tell us who you're from. I mean, if some guy dressed up, it was a mask sort of comes around me. I'm going to fight back. It's a miracle. It hasn't been more violence.

And now these sons of bitches are killing American citizens. I mean, this is a private police force, a secret police force, that has taken the oath of office to Trump, not the Constitution of the United States. It should outrage and infuriate everybody. And so I'm trying to exercise it legislatively, legally, using my voice, trying to get more aggressive and bowing back at Trump. I think I've been pretty aggressive against Trump by standards, you know, comparative standards. And I think you've stared him down a bit.

And I've been punch a bully in the mouth, by fire with fire. did a little redistricting stuff, Prop 50 in California. And every day the fucker's attacking me. I mean, two days, you know, new scum, you know, all this sort of eighth grade bully bullshit. Like what I'm seeing is like there's this guy watching YouTube in the White House. And then he saw a video about Somalis and didn't realize that they were 98% legal. And then now, you know, Mexican people in Minneapolis are getting their fucking skulls bashed.

Because of like a huge... Basically, he's arbitrarily... just fucking with different democratic states and cities. 100%. Yeah. It's what it all has in common. And by the way, and he went into Democratic cities

run by African-American mayors as well. This guy's a piece of shit. Oh, no. No, I mean, this is the guy that put at the Obama video just a few weeks ago. I mean, you know, and that didn't even get as much outrage as it deserved

of Michelle Obama and Barack Obama. It's the birther guy. This is the guy called, you know, countries shit all countries. I mean, it's connect all these damn dots. These guys want to roll back, you know, The last half century on racial justice on issues of voting rights, civil rights, LGBTQ rights, women's rights, you've seen it. I mean, anyway, so this is like, for me it's code red.

People need to wake up. We can lose this country. I really believe that. I talked about rigging the election before. I wasn't bullshitting about that. He doesn't believe in fair and free elections. He's a competitive authoritarian, which means he wants elections, the veneer one, just like Putin, who got 87.3% of the vote. Oh, good for him.

Right? Just to show his largesse. And you saw it on display last night, this sort of vulgar display. You watched it? Yeah, you know, the state of, you know, red state. You watched the whole thing? I watched until the end. And then I just got it.

I was prepping for Gavin News and I was going to watch it. Bullshit. You were reading my book? You weren't. No, I've finished your book. I'm actually not cool. I actually don't get. You didn't watch it?

You didn't watch the longest state of the union in American history is a historic. Was there any funny? There was no funny parts, though? Funny. Yeah, he didn't say anything. I mean, I thought the funny part is... He was like, Arnold Palmer's dick is bigger than... They used to say he had the biggest...

Yeah. Isn't amazing the shit he said all the time? It's just less funny, though. It is less funny. It doesn't feel derivative. It does feel the show is not as interesting. Well, the truth is this, right? Like, the first term, we didn't see stuff like this.

We heard people talking about Russia and some James Bond conspiracy theory crap. And then we were told by the Democratic Party that in this last election, this is the most important election ever. And then Joe Biden made it seem like they didn't actually think it was the most important election. If they sent him out on a debate stage like that, like if it's the most important election ever, if you're saving democracy, you're not going to do that. The Democratic Party isn't going to, they're going to take it more seriously.

The problem is everyone thinks there's like six people in a room, smoke-filled room, and we've got astrayes like this. And we're deciding who the, you know, that's a black and white movie. That's even more depressing. It's so diffused. The party is many. It's DCCs. It's D.E. It's all the state parties.

It's all of us. The party is Clinton. It's a composite of Obama. It's Pelosi, but it's Jeffries. It's Schumer. And so there was no sort of centralization of that kind of decision making, is my point. Well, speaking of what is the party? Like, in the light of, like, Joe Biden was doing family separations.

Like, you know, like, a lot of these, like, you know, under Obama, like, ICE was dramatically expanded. I think that there has to be kind of a conversation amongst your caucus as to like what morally they stand for because it really runs the gamut. There are people that are like making a lot of money, you know, in the stock market, there are wolves of woolp. The inside training is gross, man. I mean, and the role evolving door for lobbyists is gross and the fact you can be there

for 73 years. Come on. There's, but yeah. How long was Fideside there? 750 years? And that was hard, man. I was, God, I remember about. By the way, you know, it was hard.

I have a story that I would share privately with you because I, she was such a powerful force in my life and supporter of mine, but it was hard near the end. And, you know, I was with her talking about some Pentagon satellite issues related to climate and how we could early fire detection near the end with her. And I didn't know how bad it was until, you know, was she was talking about this satellite climate. No, I was talking about that. but she was talking about other things.

I used to go to the forest and pull my skirt. It was, it was, but she, you know, look, she's a legend. What does it look like to be president after Trump? Like what is, like, Barron's going to be at his dad's funeral, right? He's going to be probably pretty sad. He was at the state of the union last night. But does he want to go to work as the president? I don't have to work because he's made a ton of money.

So I think Barron after his dad dies is going to assume the throne of the presidency, right? I think the throne is a good way to describe it. How about this guy? What is? He's like an emperor put his picture. He's got those giant posters on the sides of buildings all over D.C., including the Department of Justice. That says everything you need to know. Just literally, like right out of some fascist playbush.

Can I give you a critique on something you said? What you already have, you've given many critiques. You said the Democratic Party is too fixated on pronouns. Like, you're walking into their trap. That's what they're saying. No, I think no voter has decided, like, I was going to go Democrat, but there's fixation on pronouns. is like no I think what you say it's just like I was some I think it's not one thing it's sort of the stacking of things where there was I just I'm just telling you

like like old school Democrats I talk to you're walking into the trap no I get that but I also think there's some of the trans athletes it's like we people are like I would vote for the Democrats were it not for their like they're damaging the integrity of girls sports like yeah like come on dude you're walking out of the trap I get here's here's my advice to you if the if if if They're doing their thing where they're like, the little mermaid is black, right? Well, that's just, that's gross. And they're like, you've ruined by childhood.

The Democrats are going to say, well, we celebrate for all the black little mermaids out there, we celebrate our sister queen, mermaid. Instead, you just say the Republicans, like, they're upset about the little mermaid being black, just say, pardon me, but you're a pussy and that's a baby movie. Like, you're being a baby right now. No. The truth is this is like, they act like they act like, they act like, they. just act like SJWs at this point.

They're mad at Bad Bonies, a halftime show? What? Social justice, they act like... S-A-W, okay. S-J-W. S-J-W. Interesting.

Is that you the displace? So it's how old. It's like, yeah, it's like, S-W-A-yes. They're like woke people, right? They're, like, mad about, they're incensed at Bad Bunny's song. He was good, man.

I like that. But who cares? Who's mad at the fucking, they're being, they're being babies. I appreciate this, man. I do. No, but, by the way,

this was happening with CRT, DEI, ESG, we were constantly on the, this is why I started, it's why I went on Fox to debate Ronda Santis because they were winning that messaging war. They were flooding the zone. We were on our heels, not our toes. And narrative matters and we were constantly on the defense. So what you're saying is very, I think I align with you on that in terms of being consistent. Where I have a mod, fuck up, shut up. But, but, you know, but there are some, be normal. But be normal. And I think they want us normal to everybody. Everybody, look, I don't know.

Just be like, mind your own fucking business. You know, it's not your life, you know. This is good. Oh, thank you. This is good. See, I'm, why for me? No, I'm like, what are you going to? But it's good, though.

It's helpful, man. It's healthy. Look at that. Look at that. What do you think? So it's three in on that. All right. Well, I'm not beating.

Okay, here's my question. That's how you started this day conversation. Final question. What I did. This is a competitive framework, man. Well, I mean, it's just, we'll let the girls decide. We'll let the ladies decide. No, but what you're saying is, thank you.

Just like, look, and I, you know, as a guy who's a godfather of a trans son, a trans godson, I appreciate what you're saying, man. And there are certain things where we may have modest disagreement. But, but I, look, I've been, as we established, and it's well established in this book, I've been way out on all these issues. And I've been on the receiving end of the count. counter narrative and I found myself and often in a defensive posture and so I appreciate what you're saying Here's my last question. What is though? That's always the worst that's someone that gets politicians in trouble the last

I'm not we're not gonna get you in trouble I don't know we'll find out let's figure my boy I'm not doing yellow journalism I'm hanging out with my handsome new friend Yeah, I'm angling you're gonna probably win Okay, well you want a master's what you think that J.D. Vance is gonna look like a fucking potato next to you. Seriously, the cooler guy wins every time. I mean it.

Is that it? Yes. Go through every election. Rubio's pretty cool. What do you think of Rubio? You don't like him. He said him would be interesting. Little Marco.

Little Marco. He is. I saw him in a unit. He's a point next to. You're 6-3, bro. Oh, no. You were a shooting guard. Yeah.

What was your game? It was, we were, you know, it was a short little league. It was Marine County. That's right. That's why you bat. That's why I was captain. Yeah, the baseball field was at a farmer's market. Farmer's market.

Where I was eating grasshoppers. Yeah, yeah. You never try to grasshopper. You never answer that. No, I'm a regular person. I'm a Chapoile. By the way, they're struggling a little bit right now. Chipotle?

Yeah, which is there. I read it. They really fell off a cliff. I don't know what's happened. It was a great restaurant. I don't know what's happened to it. Okay. We saw you, you know, survive kind of a recall election

and kind of win by a lot. landslide, which I think is like adds to your bone of fetus as like someone that's like gotten scrubbed up. In addition, out of all people in state politics in California, you're kind of like the last one left during from COVID. Yeah, but that generally. Yeah, that's a, by the way, that's interesting that you say that. Why am I the one that's, I don't know.

You've been interesting. You're the inventor of gay marriage, okay? You're the first person that come up with the idea of gay marriage, which is like, come on, don't be ridiculous. What's the point of gay if you're going to get married? Just be happy and rich. You don't have to get married. You don't have to, what, like get a dog?

Okay, okay. Okay, I'm just kidding. I have a nightclub comedian. I have a dog too, dude. What's, what kind of? Yeah? What's the name? Oh, actually, fuck you, dude.

What my fucking. You try to ban whipples. You're a racist. I did not. You're a racist. You're a racist. And two people got killed by the same. They're all the same.

They're all the same. Actually, fuck, yeah. It was horrible. She changed my life. I don't know. It literally was a horrible. her she rescued me okay we've seen you do these things at various like inflection points of your career that's that make are very impressive right you also just

like you look like the fucking press you do it's like if it was like on TV or something it'd be like this guy and it'd be like talking about my they're talking about more engineers more scientists more nobians there's a comment at the screen a comment normal bro be normal al Qaeda has said a comet from space somehow they've developed comet technology And the world will end. We don't even laugh about that, bro. That could happen.

You got to go mortgage free with space force. It's a legit thing. I don't know. I don't mind your space. I think you talk about like Bernie Sanders is Medicare for all. You know, like what, like, what is your defined political project? Like what, throughout your career and like right now?

Like, what is the thing you want to, like, you want to accomplish, like, politically? You know, I don't have, in your life. I don't have, like, a brand. I don't have a tag, make America great. I don't, you know, the great society or, you know, something like Medicare for all. the billionaires. But I, you know, but for me, no bullshit. It's just standing up for ideal, striking out against injustice. It defines my why in every way, shape, form.

Stand up for ideal, strike out against injustice. I'm a Sarge Schreiber Democrat. I'm into that whole 60s, the vernacular of the 60s, solving for ignorance and poverty and disease, the spirit of the 60s, the spirit of king and, you know, and how the nonviolent movement and Gandhi and, you know, Haville and, you know, Mandela, that whole, that moral authority, that whole space, that's the zeitgeist. Yeah. And, and that, and that, and, and, and, So that's me. That's my dad. That's my mom. That's the book. And that's my why. And so standing off for ideals is what gay marriage? It was about work I'm doing right now. It's sort of pushed back. You know, we can lose this country. Just feeling like I have to be held to account and strike out against the injustices of the day. So if you had to define it, like, vote for me and you get X. You tell me, you're better at this. I don't know. I don't know who you. I just gave you my Y, but how do you translate that into human? What? So if you say, like make it appeal to a voter, right? Say if you vote for me, you get X.

Yeah. What in a, you know, in a kind of concise, tangible sense, talking to a regular guy? Yeah, no, no. What is that? I've struggled with to be able to communicate. I told you what my why is and why I'm here. And I mean that. And that's ingrained in every aspect of my life. And it connects a dot, even in my private life, in terms of the business things I've done stupid things like screw cap wines and selling wine at retail and just, and my, and. restaurants trying to sort of break up monopolies and try to strike out against the injustice the rigging of the system etc and it's part of you know all the interview cap one was that I see now here we're going back but that's in the book you got to buy the book oh because it's like less classy yeah yeah I remember that yeah so it's yeah no it's just like that's one of your ls in life do you're here's just you're hot dude you're hot dude why'd you write this book just

just write and follow up be like this is how I became the hottest biggest pimp dude honestly the reason Trump you stood him down is because he thinks you're you're handsome. I mean it. I mean it. The reason you were like, fuck off Trump, like when you sent the troops in was like, he was like, he was like, I like the hair. I like the way of dresses. You should be proud of it.

Oh, man. You do that. I think that's our time? That's all the time we have today. And next week.