The Adam Friedland Show (Cumtown) - JEFF GARLIN Talks Curb Your Enthusiasm, Epstein, Photography

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

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Wait, how'd you guys meet? Larry David and I, a gentle lovemaking seminar. Really? Really? He was teaching? We were the TAs. Did you ever get tenure in F. University?

You're really funny. You're a funny guy. Because I don't think people are funny. You're a fucking piece of ass. I'm a hot piece of ass. And you're a fun... Where are you going with this? Nothing. I don't know.

I was just going with it. I don't like that direction. And welcome to the Adam Friedland Show. I'm Adam Friedland. My guest this Oh, hey, babe. Sorry. My guest this week is legendary comedian and actor Jeff Garland, whose new photo book.

My guest this week is legendary comedian and actor Jeff Garland, whose new photo boot, but, blah, my guest this week is legendary comedian and actor Jeff Garland, whose new photo book releases later this year. If you're a fan of Jeff's acting in stand-up comedy, you're going to love

his photos. Now, this one is one of the rare interviews where we actually break a pretty major story during our conversation. I don't want to spoil it quite yet, but, uh, hell. No, no, that's fine. Don't wait. Welcome home. How's your day? I know, that was your surprise. Yeah. I'll just come out and say it. I'll just come out and say it. Apparently, and I can't believe I'm really saying this, curb your enthusiasm is entirely improvised and it's shot without a script. So, how, how is, you? How? How? How in the hell do you make that stuff up? How in the hell do they make that stuff up?

Fascinating. Please enjoy my conversation, Jeff Garland. Okay. Sorry, I'm at home today. I have COVID. It's a blizzard. We had a blizzard in New York. Our next guest is a legendary American comedian.

His new book, Best Seed in the House. It's a book of photography and essays comes out in September. Everyone, please give it up for Jeff Garland. It's a-haarland. Nothing like a delightful. people smattering. Smattering of applause. And there's 600 people here.

That's what they don't know when they hear that. We got the fattest tours from Times Square. We went to the M&M store and yeah, we put a sign of that says M&M store on the door. Look how confused they are. I was in New York number of years ago. This is when I wasn't living here because I lived here a long time ago and then I live here now with L.A. We're visiting and we're not yokels in Times Square. I think we're going to a show.

And I went into that M&M store and the sugar, you know, the sugar-free chocolates and stuff. And I go, this is great. And of course, the second we sat down for the show, I'm Baron von Diarya. Really? Oh, it goes that fast. You crapped your pants? What were you seeing? No, I did not crap my pants.

So you were at Lay and Mr. Rob and you kept your pants. crapped in the middle of the stage. That's how you see Broadway. You craft your pants on the stage? No. I went to the bathroom. What the fuck? But what?

You're in the middle of a scene? I'm not in the middle. I'm not performing. I'm watching as my family. Although we did that occur. Richard Lewis had diarrhea in the scene and was so funny. Really? Yeah, he's on stage.

You hear the grr-g-er. He fought through it? No, it's fake. It's fake. You're acting. Oh, okay. Yeah, and sound effects. Wait, so you're telling me that that show is fake.

That's real. To me, it's so real. To me, I mean, like, you play a legendary character, and, like, for me, it's kind of still hard. I mean, we met, like, a month or two ago, but, like, it's still hard to not imagine that Susie, like, wants to cut your dick off. Like, I just, like, it's...

Like, I just left her, and I'm sitting down here. Yeah, and, like, you're, like, thank God. She's one of my best friends. But, like, it's so three-dimensional. Like, if I say, if I see Michael Imperioli, I'm like, Christopher, you know, like... Right. No, I get it. I actually...

I appreciate that. Yeah. If I'm feeling remotely iconic, I appreciate that because I'm a big not believing the hype. Like people would come up to me and say I'm a legend and I had, I did not know how to react to that because that's the last thing I am in my mind. And now I've just said, thank you. Like I learned that. A very famous comedian, I once told him how much I loved him and what a great effect

he had on me and he looked at me and said, why? Why? And I went, oh. Who was it? I'm not going to tell you. Just say, why. Because I still love him. You're being dicking me a little bit, like, oh, yeah.

No, here's the thing. A lot of people might love. It was Jerry Lewis. I don't know him. It was Jerry Lewis. Actually, I've spent time with Jerry Lewis and had fun. Oh, really? He wasn't a dickhead?

No. Apparently he's the biggest dickhead in the world. No, you know what it is? I don't know what his mental illness could have been. Yeah. But he is a complicated, complicated guy. Yeah, I know. You know, he, he, um, he, I'm

Chase is similar that way. I wouldn't say they're evil or horrible people. They just relate to the world and they, you know, Jerry Lewis, you name Annie Taylor Swift, okay? Jerry, Martin and Lewis, there's a great picture of Martin and Lewis in the Times Square area and they're outside of a window looking down and there are people everywhere like New Year's Eve everywhere. They were that popular.

Like, they were, to say they were huge is very much appropriate. The French love Jerry Lewis. They do. But also, well, here's the thing about Jerry Lewis. Also, the French are the least funny people on Earth. So it's like, it's not even that good of a compliment. Yeah, there's not a lot of great French comedies. There have been some.

Well, Jacques Tatis. It wasn't, but it's not L-O-L, bro. It's not Borat. Did Jerry try to bring over that French guy to America to break, to have a crossover to Elmelaide Goddellad or something Oh, did he win an Academy Award?

Oh no. He was the biggest comic in France and everyone was like, what the fuck is this French guy talking about? He actually is a very funny man and we had a falling We never had an original thing. Ira Glass asked myself, Colin Quinn and somebody else to...

Who's the other person? I don't remember. But to listen to his set that they gave us a copy of his set because they were talking about him learning the thing, learning English, trying to do it for both. And, you know, I gave my thoughts. And I was not mean.

I just gave it. And the one constructive thought that, I'll explain a second, was that he did two Starbucks jokes like in there. And my reply was, do you really care about Starbucks? Is that an area?

that needs to be examined. And that's what I said. So the next time I see him, which was at the comedy cellar, and I was looking forward to meeting him, not thinking that I said anything wrong because I said all this stuff. You know, Colin did too.

And I walk off stage and I go, hey, how are you doing? He goes, you think you know everything. Shut up, you French. Oh, no, but the point is, what are you coming over to this country? You're talking about Starbucks. Great restaurant.

Sometimes people in their lives are not remotely enlightened. And so he was at that point where he was fragile and he'd go. He might still be that way, I don't know. However, a few years later at the comedy store, we totally made amends and hit it off

and were good. He should have apologized to you. I don't look for that. Because if it weren't for us, he'd be speaking German, that's for sure. I don't know. Sorry, guys.

That is so awesome. Do you have any idea? How funny that is? That is so funny. If it weren't for us, dude, they'd be speaking, yeah, in Vichy, France. Furman.

We're going to cut that anyway. Guys, can we talk about when we met each other? Please do. It was the most insane night of my life, and I've never talked about it. Okay. And I'm afraid even to talk about it now. Why? I met you at that charity benefit thing that Richard...

Richard Kind. Honorary Richard Kind, what was it for the... I don't know what it was for. No, it was for like the creative coalition. Yeah, it sounds like... Beep the name for what I'm about to say. No, you can say what you want, because I'm not a fan. So, I'm not part of the creative.

Jeff and I walk up to each other, we're like, do you know what the fuck this is? And both of us were like, where the fuck are we right now? I was told an hour prior to going. I was invited to co-host a charity event with Richard Kine. I was like, that sounds nice. By the way, that was the thing that fucked up the whole night, the term co-host. Because everyone who went up to do it either a set or talk about Richard, they labeled as a co-host. Jeff Ross was the host.

He was the roastmaster general. Exactly. So I was told 45 minutes before that it was a roast hosted by the roastmaster general himself, Jeffrey Ross, who's one of the people I respect most in life. And I was like, I don't, so I farted out a roast set. I was like, are you going to do roast? Did you know this was a roast? You're like, no.

It wasn't a roast. It was a roast. No, it wasn't. You left early because you're a celebrity. Well, yeah. I was one of the first three or four people who came up and it wasn't a roast. So I went up after you and I was like, guys, I don't know. I wrote some nasty joke.

I didn't know this is going to be a roast. And Jeff Ross, you know, and they were like, say the joke. Like one of the old people, say that joke. And so I was like, like a lot of people, you know, Richard Kine changed his name when he got to Hollywood. Like John Stewart used to be named John Leibowitz and Richard Kahn used to be named. And I was like, Zalman the rapist. And it got a pop. And I was like, wow.

By the way. there for that you were that was it was not bad it's all walking out in there no no not bad awesome yeah yeah that got a big pop from the so that was legitimately crazy funny from the you know the for the protocols of the elders of Zion like they loved it and then i was like don't worry it's a family name it was it was changed from rapowitz at ellis island and his grand and there's his grandfather uh motion rapist uh he was the founder of the creative artist agency and uh and uh and uh And there have been rapists throughout the industry ever since. And when I said, rapists throughout the industry, that bombed.

And I was like, what's going on with this crowd? So I get through the whatever, the crap that I forwarded out. And then the last joke, I was like, oh, you know, I'm like, this is safe. This is like, and the last joke is like, oh, I guess it's a roast. I should go around the dais and crap all over you guys. And I was like, Jeff Garland's here. I mean, this is behind your back. I apologize.

But he's here. Give it up for him. I was like, hey, you're fat fuck, you know, Susie, whatever, and then Jeff Ross is here, and I'm like, we all know what you did, you know, and I don't know why I didn't have anything. And I was like, and Jeff Epstein's here. Where the hell have you been, right? And it dies. It goes silent.

You told me that on the phone. The air leaves the room. And I was like, what? I thought it was safe. I thought it was like, it's in the news. And then I was like, did you guys know him? And Richard gets on the mic, he's like, Adam, I think it's because he's dead. And I was like, I didn't mean to...

Well, by the way, Richard Cohn, hold on. Fuck him for that. What I mean by that is to say that sincerely, that's what makes the joke even funnier. Obviously it makes it funnier. Yeah, I'm sorry that you had to deal with that. No, it's not sorry. It was the most insane moment of my life.

And then I'm like, I'm sorry. You tell Richard, I said, go fuck for you. Guys, his body's barely cold. I didn't mean to offend and speak ill of noted pedophilic sex traffickers. Did he say it like this? He dead. He's dead.

He's dead. And I was like, I loved him, but I never took a photo with him and I never got in a plane. I want some of it. Here, go on. But just last thing, my friend Ari, who's talking to all these old people at the table, having a great schmoozing, having a great night. This guy next to him looks like this and he turns out, he's like, I knew Jeffrey Epstein. And I was like, oh my God. They all did.

They all knew Jeffrey Epstein. I didn't know he was a real guy. And I guarantee some of them, island, all that shit. Isn't it? It's a real guy. But I just thought of a thing for Richard. Can you remember Richard going about to? He's dead.

My memories, I knew Jeffrey Epstein. I would never take a picture. I once took a train with him. That was pretty good. Yeah, it was pretty good. Is this actually a positive look leaning back like this? Yeah, I think so. It's a lot of your living room.

I have a lot of Eames furniture. We'll do this. It's a relaxed show. There's a great scene. Maybe in The Nutty Professor, he goes to the Dean, and the Dean's chair. you can't help but slide and he's trying to stay in the chair while he talks to the dean perfection in the Jerry Lewis one yeah Jerry Lewis one by the way yeah in terms of

the Eddie Murphy one in my opinion as a comedian that is the greatest acting performance I've ever seen oh the club how we would forget like that's why the Academy was a bullshit they never respect comedy only one is one ever in Annie Hall throw that all aside this guy yeah what he didn't that you can't name an actor who could pull that off you can't you were with him a daddy day care yeah work with him daddy tell me tell us about Eddie I mean like I'll tell you something of the first off very generous good guy great guy we would we came up in this with the

same comedians like older comedians so we Eddie and I would dedicate takes to these comedians that no one would know except us Shecky Green no the Shecky's known but no one would know him yeah um uh no here's the thing about eddie this was this this is the thing that knocked me off my feet i gave you the background though when something happens on a set like if you knocked something over it'd be funny and let's say i'm just a dramatic actor and something gets knocked over you'll have a quip you'll have a quip it's just you're the comedy guy you will have a quip so i'm on this set and i think i'm quick do not get me wrong and And so something would happen.

I think of what I'm going to say, this is microseconds. Think of what I'm going to say, go to say it. There wasn't one time that he didn't say his first, and there wasn't one time that what he said wasn't a million times funnier than what I was going to say. So you're just looking like, okay, you're Babe Ruth and I'm on the All-Star Team. You know? So it was remarkable to see his mind work that fast. Yeah, he's a good guy.

Yeah, I love working with him. And then also he's just, he literally is a comedic genius for what he does. There's, you know, I don't throw that around, you know. Why is he around as much? I mean, he was the biggest star in the world probably in the 1980s, right? Like, no, not the world because black leads in films didn't really score that well in internationally, but certainly in the United States. Oh, they didn't like it when a black guy was.

Well, no, I know I could say they as like all of them. Every country? But it didn't score like it did in America. I'm saying Americans are the least racist country in the world. No, I'm saying there's a lot of Portuguese visiting here currently. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, but he was the most famous person in the United States, I would say. He had a number one hit record, party all the time.

Yeah, party all the time, and also his albums of a stand-up, you know, sold at a tonne and specials. He was the first guy to perform in, like, the equivalent of Madison Square Garden. You know, he was the first one. Because prior to that, I remember seeing George Carlin, 3,000 people. Rodney Dangerfield, 3,000 people. All the comics, even Richard Pryor wanted his great first album. Well, first, he had older party albums. I'm doing this, but they're amazing too.

But he performed it at the Long Beach Arena. It holds like 2,400. So even Eddie took that to an hour. Now guys like Kevin Hart are selling. arenas, yeah. No, stadiums. Shane is doing the Eagles stadium. Right, but that's where what you call it performed too. Who, the Eagles? No, I'm Kevin Ardice from Philadelphia. Oh yeah, yeah. No, I'm saying, so that's where it is now. Yeah, yeah. You know. Would you go to Philadelphia? Like, if you had, if they said you sold out the stadium. Give me a scenario. Like, play it out. I want to

hear. I mean, like, they say, listen, you sold out Lincoln Financial Field. You're going to make five million dollars from the show but you have to go to like that disgusting gross month with those monster Philadelphia you know would you do it is it worth it you think what the fuck you're talking about those awful those just subhuman just you're not getting to the point of who you're talking about is it what a subhuman person just you know those disgusting women oh why don't you try our disgusting Older men. Yeah, we have a racist sandwich.

What the steak sandwich? Yeah, every place you go, there's a disgusting sandwich. In Philadelphia? No, on the road. Like Caleb and I were talking about it. Every city you go to it's like, what should we eat here? And the Uber driver tells you a disgusting sandwich. Like in Pittsburgh, they're like, we have our own disgusting sandwich.

You didn't use those words. Well, they don't say disgusting, but it sounds revolt. It's like a throw-up. It's throw-up, it's baby diaper. Okay. You didn't try the sandwich? Yeah, of course I tried it. Yeah.

I got the t-shirt. And by the way, I know you liked it. Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, because no one says that about sandwiches that sucks. So your thing, Rochester is good. The garbage plate. I mean, at least you're honest about it. It's macaroni salad.

It's like a chopped cheese filling. Macaroni salad. What else? It could be either two cheeseburgers or two hot dogs, red hot. Can I ask a question? Yeah. People watch this? Yeah, why?

This is insane. Why? Charlie, that tuna salad, was it chicken on the sea? Oh, what was it? Was it, you know? And then when I had that orange juice, was it from a concentrate? Or did you shake the carton? I don't want to do this.

Or was it one of those juice stamps? I don't remember. I sound like Larry doing that. Okay, Jeff, I didn't want to do this, but... I don't care what you asked me and talking about it. Listen, we booked you before, obviously, the horrific leaks of the Jeffrey Epstein emails came out, And so I had to, it's my journalistic duty to, I'm not a journalist, but I had to search your name. And I just want you to account for what we found.

Please do. I think what we could do is I'm going to read the Jeffrey Epstein emails, and you could read your own emails. And then it's, I'm shocked. It was shocking. So you want to do some sort of play acting shit? It's not a play acting. No, this is from the real pet. This is redacted.

It's what you're calling. Oh, this is awesome. Who did this? Did you do this? No, this is real. No, no, no, no. This is fucking awesome, man. And my emails blanked out.

All right. This is great. So I'm going to be Jeffrey Epstein and then you could read your own emails. Yeah. It's weird. When you guys heard his voice, were you surprised? Who?

His voice is like, hey, me. His voice is like. You brought Jeffrey Epstein? Yeah, he's like, What if I told you, I truly. I truly. He looks like kind of macho. With all the names this last time

and this. this, that, and turning out this guy's a scumbag. I don't give a shit. So I'm not even following. Hey, I subscribe New York Times, Wall Street Journal, all these things on my phone. Read them once a week tops. Yeah, yeah. Because if something interesting were to happen and we're at dinner,

you might bring it up and I'll go, whoa. And then when you bring it up, then I do my due diligence to read about it. But in general, I go through my days trying to rise above the noise. Well, that makes sense because of your longtime correspondence and best, with your best friend. Okay. Okay, so this is from Jeffrey Epstein to Jeff Garland. It's me, Jeff.

No, no, I'm reading the Jeffrey Epstein parts. Jeff, it's me, Jeff, L-O-L. Still can't get over how funny it is that we have the same name. Was watching an episode of Curb the other day, felt inspired. Comedy has this ability, even for a short while, to make the world forget about their problems. I was wondering if you have any recommendations on introductory improv courses. Seems fun. Second City, comedy sports.

I've heard good things. I don't feel comfortable being associated with the years. UCB Theater after reading about their history of sexual abuse. Sick stuff. The cover up, too. Heartbreaking. I'm leading towards comedy sports because it has the funniest name. Best, Jeffrey Epstein.

Okay, now your response. Okay. Hey, Jeff. Jeff here. Ha, ha, brother. The name thing gets me every time. Yeah, that's funny. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

Glad you asked about infraub. I think this is a great idea. But I want you to listen to me very careful. Improvisational comedy is an all-in thing. This isn't some hobby that you can half-ass. You're gonna work your ass off night after night. You're gonna be pushed to your lemon, and at the end of the day, it's all worth it.

The rush is irreplaceable, better than drugs or sex. I know a lot of people have lost their minds chasing the dragon. You are embarking on a journey that will fundamentally change your human being. A little word, your email, but let's keep going, yeah. Because truly, Jeff, nothing comes close. You're one of the funniest people I ever met in my life. They're the funniest. And I know Eddie Murphy for when I was in Daddy Daycare.

Love, love Jeff. P.S., I've never said this to you before, but I consider you to be my absolute best friend in the world. I'd like to assure you that any secrets you share, go to the grave. Okay, then this is the monster Jeffrey Epstein's response. Hey, Jeff, it's me, Muhammad. Just kidding. It's Jeffrey Epstein.

What I wouldn't give to see your face reading that. Ha ha. No, of course my name is still, Jeff. First off, thanks for the sage advice. I swear to you, Jeff, I will take improvisational comedy very seriously. Anywho, Stephen Hawking seems to have taken a shine to your daughter, Sammy. He asked me to reach out and negotiate a price. A couple questions.

It is really funny. A couple of questions. What's her take on this Palestine nonsense? What's it like when you have sex with her? And is there any world where Susie isn't going to be a total bitch about this? Then here's your response to the noted monster and pervert sex trafficker. Oh, dear God, this is wrong. Brother, you fucking got my ass.

I literally went into a cold sweat thinking some Muslim named Muhammad somehow got my email. I don't know how to say this, but, bro, I think you misunderstand. That's not actually my daughter, L-L-L. That's a child actress. They got to play my daughter. I'm what's called an actor. We pretend to be other people. Since he's my wife, she's a Jewish woman pretend to be a wife.

I can put you in touch with her parents. Her dad is a class act, and her mother is out of the bitch. I don't know why everyone's laughing. This is disgusting stuff. So the monster responds. Just putting it out there, if you wanted to change your name to Muhammad, I'd do it too. Reacting. That blows my fucking mind, dude.

Did you invent acting or is there other ones? It would be pretty awkward if we did that, L.O.L. Muhammad actually happens to be the name of the first Muslim guy. Bro, you need to get out more. This is crazy. Everyone on the show is an actor, you numbskill. Wait till the guys find out about this one. Chomsky's going to piss his pants.

Okay. So then the... By the way, seeing names like that on the list are awesome. It's awesome. Steve Hawking's the best one. Yeah. So then the monster responds. LOL, bro, let's convince Dersh that we change our names to Muhammad.

So anyway, so you mean to tell me that Kobe Bryant from the Lakers is an actor also? What about President George W. Bush? What the hell is even going on? What about Ashton Coucher? Am I being pumped? Your response? All jokes aside, I wasn't too hot on my name for the longest time. I often think about changing it.

That was until I met you. I love being Jeff with you. Oh, brother. I'll try and ask you your questions one by one. Kobe, Bush, not actors. Kuchner is an actor, but not on the show punked. Okay. Jeff, I have to say something because I love you.

Hearing that you don't know what actors are worries me. I see that you're a man with deep dedication to his passions. I see that your work demands all of you. Jeffrey Edward Epstein. You're a man on the island. but you're also on an island. There's a whole world outside of that beautiful paradise you've built for yourself on the little St. James.

I don't want you to look back on your life with regrets. Wishing you got out of your comfort zone a little more. I don't want life to pass you by. And then that's what I think that the improv classes will be for you a great help. Yeah, yeah. I love you. Please never.

All right, so this is shocking revelations. What were you thinking? Did you write this? No, these are from the Department of Justice, Pam Bondi. Whatever these are, this is perfect. This is sublime. You want to keep it? I mean, it's all over the internet anyway, but you can have that.

No, I love to keep it. This is so great. You're going to have both copies. No, I'm not going to redo a reading. Well, you're one for later. Sorry. Okay. Adam here.

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Both of us. And we actually clamored for our teachers' attention. Did you ever get tenure in fuck university. No, we were a teacher's assistant. Really? Our teacher was tenured. Really? Yeah. Who was at Mary Kay Latourne?

No, the weekend. We met here in New York City. We were both doing stand-up comedy and... Is it in the 80s? Yeah, late 80s. We were acquaintances. And one of my favorite things is when he would come in to do a set at Catch a Rising Star. And one of two things would happen.

One would be he's going to do the funniest material that's going to kill you. He's going to ball you. No, that's not it. Because comedians will laugh. We all went in the room. But the more likely one was this. He'd start, he'd look at the crew and go, ah, not tonight, and walk off the stage. Yeah, I heard he used to just bail on sets.

Bail on sets. I saw him do it, and it was awesome. Oh, what are you looking at your watch for? Ah, fuck this. And it would be gone. I swear, this is 100% true. Yeah. Yeah.

Because he had a contempt for the audience. Yes. And then years later, I was performing in Chicago and he was coming through town to go to see Kermiski Park before it was torn down. Really? We had a nice conversation then. This is all we knew of each other. And then in LA we talked a couple times, you ran into each other.

But I never got to audition for Seinfeld, which when I told him that he was pissed off, but I find that hilarious. I mean, everyone was on the show literally. Yes. It's kind of offensive. I knew, I knew almost every guest actor who was remotely comedic, I did know. Anyhow, so years later, we were at lunch and he was asking me about the comedy scene. And he said, HBO really wants me to do something.

And I said, well, I've got the perfect idea for you. And I had been on the row with John Stewart and Dennis Leary helping to do something. their specials, their HBO specials. And it was really fun and developing all that. And I said to him, I go, you know, you could do a special about you making a special and at the end, you don't even have to do a special, and that's the whole special.

And he said, I love that. And he went and talked to his wife, and we're gonna do it. And I was thinking of only directing it. I didn't even think about being in it. That wasn't, I wanted to direct it. it and we had lunch the next day. He was excited talking about, I want you to play my manager. It was as simple as that. You know, and then he said to me, and no directing. You'll be an executive

producer. It's better. Trust me. And I didn't know this at the time, and it is a much higher stature. So that's how it started. And that was my relationship leading to that. Oh, I left out one part, which is an interesting part, I think. So Larry was writing at Castle Rock, the company that produced Seinfeld. I was writing with a guy named Alan Zweibel, same office suite of all. There are three offices in the suite. Zwebel, he co-created it's Gary Shanley's show, and he also wrote for Gilda Radnor in S&L, all her bits, Rosanna, Rosanna, Danna. He wrote all her bits. So he's very funny, very accomplished, very kind man. And Billy Crystal was in the other office.

So that's it. I would go into, he was very nice to me. He would go into, I'd walk into Larry's office, and I don't know if was he or I who did it first, started seeing the codfish bowl by Shirley Temple. And we realized that both our kids, same age, were both watching the best of Shirley Temple. It was a very popular thing then. And I knew all the songs in so deep. So we'd sing Shirley Temple songs.

That got us closer. It really didn't. We'd laugh. And Larry came into Alan in my offices, Alan's office where I was at. He said, oh, we're going to go to lunch, and Alan couldn't go. And I went, and then the conversation I told you about happened in a cuckaroo across the street from Nathan Al's in Beverly Hills. And by the way, when you tell your idea to a comedic genius,

Yeah. Oh, fuck yeah. So I am surprised because we were doing what we thought was funny. But Larry, I mean, I look upon all the episodes, not a clunker in the bunch. Yeah. Every one of them, you know, it was shocking to me. But we didn't think we were going to be a hit. And also the other side of the coin is, and I'm not going to name a comic to mess with them,

but I could have told it to another comedian. If I had told that to somebody else, we wouldn't be here talking about my great idea. Oh, no. No, no. It was the perfect. It was like, well, that's how things happen sometimes. And, you know, the lightning hits a tree, you know, or whatever it is. The basic premise of a guy who has ostensibly a billion dollars,

yet the entire world when they look at him just sees him as bald and annoying. That the money has done nothing to earn the, no one, it's a show that's another guy's last name. Well, that's based on a core of reality. Well, yeah, I know. He's like the co-creator of Seinfeld, but to every. Everyone, he's an ugly, Jewish bald guy. He's not the guy on the show that he's on. Right, exactly.

So right now, in real life. It's an incredible premise for like a comedy scene. Larry is truly iconic. Yeah. Truly iconic. And, but if you get to the core of where he was at then, which is actually now, but he lived in the Palisades, which is near the beach. It's just, well, burnt down, what the fuck am I talking?

Do you know that the customer, the DP, and the editor all lost their homes? It's terrible. From Curb Your Enthusiasm, and those three people. Really? Yeah, key departments. Sorry. No, but he would lay, we would talk about this. He never had to use air conditioning in his house because the breeze would come in from the ocean.

You see the ocean. And he would lay on a hammock in his backyard, and he would tell me what he would think about, and that all he did was ruminate. He was filled with anxiety. So he's got all this money, beautiful house there, and he would lay in there and be the guy that you see on curb your enthusiasm. So that's based at the core a real thing.

So much of the two of you guys, as a comedy duo, is just at restaurants, right? The two of you, like... We've been our share of restaurants. You just like, just kind of like him presenting you with a sociopathic idea, and you'd be like, Larry, that's a great idea, right? Yeah, that happens a lot.

Is the dynamic of your friendship, like, it feels real to me. Is that the dynamic of a... Yeah, he's one of my closest friends. Yeah. I feel being with Larry like I would being with my kids. It's just normal. You know, it's not like I'm sitting with Larry David, which many people would feel that way.

So when I'm with him, we talk about everything. I make him laugh hard, which thrills me to no end. Like, that is like... It feels amazing, I'm sure. Oh, it's like you... I have his number, like Zach Alfanakis, for me just has my number. He can make me laugh.

The wind changes directly. Yeah. And so I do that for Larry, and it just kind of, and he'll laugh hard too, my nonsense and non-sequiters, all of it. But, man, oh man, I got some serious shit going down. He's going to be one of the people I call to tell me. And he picks up.

Does he pick up? He does like this, like he's Shelley Berman and a skit. Hello. Hello. He'll pick up if you call. What are you talking about? Caleb. Is it okay?

What is this? Caleb, this is Caleb. He works on the show. I think he's blocking my camera. It's fine. You're going to feel bad about saying that in a minute. Larry Davis is the biggest hero in life. Yeah.

And. Oh, but that's not cancerous. No, no. That's a sidebar. You're a beautiful hair on the side. If you were Larry David, you could grow that hair. If you had curly hair, the Larry David look. So what's sad right now?

Let's just say we don't have much time. Okay, and. But he's healthy. No, no, you don't know that. Can we, can Caleb just say hello real quick? No. This ain't the Make a Wish Foundation, pal. Get the fuck out of here.

Who is, how are you interrupting me with this fake cancer story? because he's bald. I didn't say cancer. But I was thinking when you took off your head. Hold on. I was thinking when you took off your hat that episode where the head shaving... I've never seen the show.

You're going to feel so bad when he dies of cancer tomorrow. I have dear, dear friends. I don't know if I believe him who state just to like give me this that they've never seen the show. And I love it. That corrects. By the way, all great if you haven't.

Anti-Semites? Anti-Semites, probably. But the point, though, is that I, go to him for all of it. He's like a big brother to me, to be honest with you. We're very close friends, but he, I look up to him as a person, as a friend. Sounds like you're afraid of him, because you won't even help Caleb out with his cancer. It could save him. Are you going to stay on that? I'm sorry, dude. I just thought it was a good trick and it didn't work at all, because he saw your side of the side of your ball. Right? You could have shaved this point.

You could say my bad? That's awesome. I don't understand that. My mistake is much better. My bad? Yeah, that sounds like it was invented at a place for mentally challenged people. Like they play basketball, and one of the kids would go, my bad. And then one of the people who worked there said,

oh, I like that, and spread it from there. But it started with it. It started with a mentally challenged person. My mistake is really not saving you much time. I mean, costing you any time. Yeah, yeah. My bad. Yeah, that's stupid shit.

Tell me about how the show, like the set was run and how it's structured like there was different for me than than everybody else so I'll give you my observation of what's going on and what I was doing yeah so I get there let's say seven in the morning we're gonna start shooting at eight okay okay and you know I go through makeup put on usually a suit and then I mosey my way to craft service and see all the people all the departments say hello to everybody and then you get on set let's say it's in my house, my character's house. Lights are all set up like this and everything's ready to go and you see the DP talking with the director,

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we don't rehearse. We move so the camera can know kind of where we're going. We do not rehearse. Actors will come on and they'll start doing the scene. We go, no, no, no, no. We will do it when we do it. We're not going to do this.

Is he one of the reactions to be authentic? Always, yes. And we also don't want people trying to be funny or have written things and prepared. We just want it fresh. And if that does happen, it's gone by the second take. Does someone pitch lines, though? Is Larry pitching lines of...

Well, no. There's only three... Well, there's Carol Leif for amongst some other people. There's some excellent writers. And they do come up with great ideas. It's not joke-driven the show, so it's not like lines, this, that. But for me,

in that situation. Here's how far I go. I will literally, Jeff Schaefer, the executive producer director, will come over to me, and go, what are we doing? I have no idea when I arrive to set what I'm going to be shooting. That's so fun.

And he tells me, he points it out, and I go, great. And then we start the scene, we do that. Now, after every take, I used to be in this all the time. The executive producers are Jeff Schaefer, myself, and Larry. If it's a scene I'm in, we go have a creative discussion about what's working, what can be done, like this, don't like this.

If I'm not in the scene, I stay at video, I used to go, we have that meeting or be, you know, I don't do that anymore. Now, if I see something, I'd go tell Larry and Jeff, like on the monitor, if it's a scene, I'm not in. But that's how it works. We just redo it until we have what we have. What's your favorite thing you've ever just off the top of the dome? The one I remember just improvising was Larry talking about washing dishes in hot water that he had special hands. And I started screaming at him that he didn't have special hands. That argument is brilliant because you're Larry David and you happen to like wearing women's panties.

That is in the outline. So I'm just, that's Larry David's, you know, me doing it. So much fun. And I try and do something different every take unless Jeff Schaefer says to me, we don't have this, will you do this? Yeah. Larry's even said to me there was one scene he and I are riding on an airplane and I chose to my I made it was a clear choice I made that I'm sitting like this in my

seat next to Larry and he says what are you doing I go we're gonna take off he goes you got a book you know he just asked me different things he goes yeah well what do you do I go just sit here he said to me don't do that again don't did a bunch of other stuff What I did was in the episode. Is Larry in the edit? Is Larry in the edit? Larry watches every single take, every single take,

which, like, if I direct a movie or something, I'm editing while I'm on set. And I know if I got it, and I don't need to see 400 different things. The only thing that surprises you in editing is when you steal a shot. Like, it's someone's reaction. They're wearing the same clothes, but from another scene, but you use it.

in the scene, you know, I mean, that they're not in. It's beautiful. That's the time you use it, editing. But so Bruce Springsteen, who, by the way, was everything I dreamt he would be. Everything, I was very nervous to meet him. What a guy. Fantastic. And we had a great time that day.

So we're shooting a scene. Susie's standing in the kitchen. Bruce and I are sitting across from each other at my table and my house. Larry's at the head and standing behind Larry is Bruce's. assistant who in this scene we come to find out used to be a woman and he oh Larry yeah Larry he says that Larry dated him when he was a woman and of course the horror on Larry's face is just that's one of my favorite looks that he's ever given on the show he's given great ones and the guy goes and the guy gives a piece of

information where Larry used to love fucking on the floor that was his thing so So we film it a couple of times, and then I lean over to Bruce, and I go, because I had it like this, I'm recreating. I said, take a beat and then say, Larry, I never thought of you as a floorfucker. Florefucker. Because Jeff Schaefer is so great, he doesn't yell cut right away. He lets it live for a second to see if someone, you know. So Bruce says that line, cut, the place explodes. Floorfucker.

The ceiling went up and down. For him to say, I never thought of you as a floorfucker. Floorfucker. What am I supposed to do at that moment? I came up with it. I thought of it. So I didn't do that. You're going to think this bastard Springsteen came up with it.

So six months later, whatever when it was premiering, eight months later, when Larry and Susie, I'll just point out those two, did interviews, they said Bruce came up with it. And I called them both. That's probably insane. No, but no, yeah, it was fine. No. But after it, I called both of them, and they were very apologetic. Why didn't you tell us?

I'm like, why am I going to tell you? That's just so stupid. So now, in my book that you're going to mention, I've mentioned it there. I'm going to mention it everywhere. So now I'm doing my own. Because that line, that is my tide for my two lines that I fed somebody that are the best lines. What was the other one? The other one was J.B., myself and Larry are at a table.

and J.B. is talking all about the Big Johnson community who's welcome, you know, the thing. And I whispered to J.B. next take. I'm going to tell Larry to ask you, who is in charge of the Big Johnson community. And then the answer that I told him to say was Horacecock Williams. And he told that everybody laughed. And again, what am I supposed to do? That was mine, you know. No. So. I would just whisper loudly. Yeah, some people here.

No, because I don't want, the thing about it also is. Larry's saying that Bruce Springsteen came up with that on TV he was fucking with you for sure. But by the way,

Bruce Springsteen, he gets enough credit for his songs. That's what I'm saying. Give me the credit on the comedy. He was great, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, so you miss making the show?

Terribly. Because what you say, you describing it, like just saying there's a loose concept, they're like, we'll like hit, well, the red light will go on, we'll fucking do it. We will just fucking do it. Because the outline is, you're your friends having fun, right?

Well, yes, but the outline is so good and so specific that if I'm just true to the outline, certainly I'll go off because I've gone somewhere and we've used that sometimes, but it's all there. So if you're present in the scene and you know your part in the scene, there are a lot of scenes with me in it where a bunch of people are talking and I'm not saying a word. Yeah. Because it almost feels like you're competing

to get the thing out and I'm just sitting there going the best thing for my character to do is just not say shit. But seeing Jeff's just sitting there not saying shit is like that's what there's something. That's a good choice. People know it's the right choice. Yeah. It is the right choice. You're like, oh yeah, I don't see myself

out of this one. Yeah. But the point is Larry David said to me one day we were shooting season three probably he goes you're never gonna have this much fun in a set ever again in your life you know being a show this funny yeah and I said that is 100% correct do you conceive of it as being the greatest sitcom of all time a lot of people say that no but top 10 easy really yeah I mean honey owners uh Mary Tyler Moore um full house full house the fact that you gave a great fake reaction to that to my fake naming

I mean, all in the family? All in the family? All in the family. Have you ever seen Keeping Up Appearances? What was that? The British? I've seen a lot of British shows. One of my favorite.

The one with Hyacin? No. It's about this woman that's like a whatever. Me and my family used to watch on PBS on the weekends. By the way, that's how I discovered Monty Python, watched all the English shows. And years later, easily in my top, my personal top five, is Toast of London. If someone's seeing Jeff Green, you walk around, you walk around, you walk around, the world people like if i see sarah jessica parker i'm seeing kerry bradshaw you know you play such a like

iconic something that's so culturally ubiquitous i am i you think i'd go uh but when that happens or people come up to me anyone who comes up to me they like the show yeah because they i had a guy a swedish guy like six five wearing a sweater i don't know how where he came from where you you know he talked about how much he loved the show uh all the stuff and i took a picture with you with them happily I gave him a pack of baseball cards I'm apt to do that I carry packs sometimes you're a funny well I might be two but you're really funny yeah funny because I don't think people are funny you're a funny piece of ass that's what you are I'm a hot piece of ass and you're a fun where are you

going with nothing I don't know I was just going with it I don't like that direction why would you if it's just like I just stupid it would be stupid if we if if we had sex with no no you would use the word we it would be you sex and having forced me into it. But it's we having sex. Just like Richard Kine's original name, that's what you'd be doing to me. Zalman the Rapeast. Wait, so you, I want to talk to you about stand-up.

I'll talk about stand-up for hours. Okay, so like... So I've been doing this for 43 years. So you did you, like, watch on late-night television, you're like, that's my guy. This is the thing you know. Who is your hero? From the time I was a little kid, I tried to make my parents' lap. I was always the funniest kid in school.

I would sneak up late to watch Johnny Carson. to see the comedians. If I knew a comedian was on, I love comedy. My first album was a Cheech and Chong album, Big Bamboo. I remember, you know, I didn't know it was rolling paper type thing for the cover. But I love comedy my whole life. So you tell me Rodney Dangerfield, George Carlin, Bill Cosby, my favorite. It was a great comic.

You have a credit. By the way, that's what broke my heart about it. It was like, you're an iconic. He was so good a comic. You really was, but it's, you know what I did one night? Yeah. At the comedy store, I went up and I gave away all my Bill Cosby albums after all that shit happened. Really?

Yeah, people took them. Who? And they were original. Rapeists probably took them, right? Molesters. You have them arresters. Just molesters. Malesters.

It's a big difference. There should be different. So the point is you say high school. Yeah. Man, in high school, I would watch everything, all of it. I remember seeing Eddie for the first time. Do you like Steve Martin? Showtime's the big laugh off.

This would have been 1980 or so. He was probably 18 or something. You're very young. When I started... Do you like Steve Martin and Andy Kaufman? Love. Andy Kaufman, oh my God. You understand?

Those guys are just like... I had lunch once with Milton Burrell. Apparently, like to his knee. No, yeah. Apparently, that's what I say. That's what I hear, too. I know every guy. I don't know that about Richard Kahn.

Richard Kahn passed me. I was at the Friars Club, and I had lunch with him home. I've had lunch with Sid Caesar. I got to work with an amazing or a Shelley Berman. I've worked with people that I, in my mind, when I'm doing a scene with them, I'm going, oh, my God, this is amazing. Yeah, it's incredible. It takes me out of the scene, kind of.

But I love comedians. I love comedy. I despise bad comedy. You started at 20? So I see TV. My God. The fact I worked with Catherine O'Hara

Now I work with her on Kerb supposedly had sex with her and we recorded those sounds It was real sex? No, no, we recorded those sounds in a laundry room but it was so embarrassing here I am with truly a hero of mine

and we're making sex sounds and she's saying fuck me fat boy and all that. I thought of her as my mom because of Home Alone Home Alone. Yeah. A movie I've never seen. Really?

Yes, just surprise. I audition. for it for the Daniel Stern part. And I knew, I didn't try. Because I'm going to be honest, I read that script that I went, this sucks. And I'm not going to try. The amount of violence.

It's 100% true. The amount of violence enacted by a child on adult men in that it's bath. It's actually, it's crazy. Well, it's an absurd. John, John Hughes. John Hughes, yeah. But there is a bit of absurdism

in all his movies, people falling a certain way. and, you know, it's there. So it can be cartoonish, the violence in that, you know. Yeah, yeah. It's better or worse. It inspired me to beat on my parents. What are we talking about? I don't know.

I'm having a great time. What? Your point, no, your point was about, your point was about making text noises. Oh, Katner-R-Hara. And then having a scene with the dinner table, we're making sexual faces at one another. I mean, to me, what the fuck, man?

Yeah, yeah. And I'm devastated that we lost her. She's always been great to me, even before we worked together. And she is a fucking hero, and it kills me. He's a genius. Genius. No, it is. She's one of the geniuses.

Yes, I know. Madeline Khan, Catherine O'Hare. Can you tell us a little bit about Bob Einstein and Richard? Sure, I'd be happy to. I mean, Bob Einstein is from what I hear. You're going to ask me about stand-up comedy. That's what it was. Well, we're going to a million directions.

We'll get there. Okay. If we do, let's do Bob Ogedstein first. Bob Eustadt was one of my closest friends. Bob would, after we're done filming a scene, you'd be driving home, the phone would ring, and it'd be Bob looking, wasn't that great?

That was so great! Wasn't it so much fun? And this is not, this is like, that's it. He would call Susie and do the same thing. And also, he knew so many great jokes. They'd just tell you at lunch. episode where he tells Jerry the joke. I want to hear a secret about that episode?

Yeah, yeah. What we filmed was maybe twice as long. Super Dave, man. Yeah, it was Super Dave. Marty is also just the funniest character because Larry just like, literally just has no respect for this human being whatsoever. Yeah, no, it's... He despises him.

He always comes up with ideas. It was a joy to be around him. He and his wife were very close with my wife and I, my ex-wife and I. That's again, you lose, in my photography book, which we'll get to, you go through it. I think half the people that I took pictures of are dead. Don't take a picture of me. Oh, you did.

No, no, no one young is dead. It's like people who died of old age. Yeah. What have you. And so Bob, he was great. And he also at, he told me this one story about Red Fox. He was producing, because Bob in the day was a producer of. of variety shows, Dick Van Dyck, all these variety shows.

And he was the executive producer of the Red Fox show. They're about to shoot nobody can find Red. Okay, and Bob goes to go, oh, I'll go to his dressing room. And he goes to his dressing room. What? Red, are you in there? What? Red, are you in there?

What? He opens the door, and he's sitting in the makeup chair, leaning back, and the makeup lady is sitting on his face. And Red Fox says, and this is true, because Bob told me, this is the punch. Red Fox says to Bob, Bob, we got to do the show. And Red's response was, can't a man relax? Is that not?

So he had a million stories like that. So he would tell those stories. And also, you know, he was out. of the show he had a pneumonia and he was getting better and then he said

I'll be back in about two weeks in two weeks he was dead from cancer they found it was and so that really ripped us all apart and at lunch sometimes we would walk away like

overwhelmed and we all knew why whoever one of us walked away. It had a profound effect on their show. And Vince Vaughn coming on as Funkhouser's cousin or whatever it was was fantastic. Totally different than Bob, obviously, but Vince was a joy to work with. And then as far as Richard's concerned, that's also one of my closest friends. Richard, I'm sorry. I used to tour with Richard. We'd go on the road together. We'd be on the road and when I'd be on stage, he'd stay in the car because he was afraid he'd put something in his head off what I would say.

Robin Williams had the same thing where it would just fly in there and then like come out a year later, you know, and I need more water. Can I just have a normal water? I want to pick this shit up anymore. I'll pour it for you. All right, he's going to pour it for me. It'll be fine. And so Richard, obviously one of my comedy heroes, did things like, he was, to me, he was kind of like, sure, there was Lenny Bruce, who was a great influence on Richard and Richard Pryor, Richard Lewis, influenced. But he might have been the first alternative comedian. He lay on his notes on a piano and go into things and grab his hair. He was unlike anyone else.

And I was awe of him, and to be on the road with him and be close with him. He, his best acting on the show was the last year. Yeah. It was sad scene. He really couldn't move around. He was in bad health. A lot of scenes he did sitting down, actually most of them. But he did great work his last year.

It's kind of beautiful that he, like, it meant something to do it. And we didn't have to deal with him dying because we were done. Unlike Bob, who we had a lot going on that season story-wise. And our friend wise. Ironically, also, everyone in Marty's family dies on that show. Like, his father, the mother. Yeah, the three wood, the mother. Yeah, yeah.

There he's stealing the flowers from the roadside memorial, of course. Yeah, yeah. That's a great one. So then ironically, yeah, Marty also. Yeah, he did that. I have so many more stories I could tell. But Richard, not only did they have a profound effect on me, 17 years ago.

Yeah. He took me to an AA meeting. And the reason he took me was because I had trouble with food. And I thought that was going to be the answer. There were gigantic rock stars. And where were their names? He and I were the only comedians. There were some famous actors.

But when I say gigantic rock stars, so I'm in this room. Everyone's talking about their alcoholism, and I started talking about my food. I felt embarrassed. But also the way it went around, I turned to the guy behind me, and I go,

this ain't for me, didn't go back. Until 13 years later, I was, went back in, and Richard originally took me. I just had a nervous breakdown and was suicidal. So I was really down health-wise and everything, and I got, I had gone away to rehab for mental health and also abusing alcohol and weed, drank a lot of beer. I drank to get drunk, I smoke weed, both to escape. And I didn't do them as a habit. I did them when I felt. Self-medicating.

Self-medicating. But still food is what I had bottomed out on. Food. So someone took me to the meeting, and I will celebrate my sobriety date, February 4th, four years for being... Congratulations. Thank you, pal.

And the guy I said, this ain't for me, not even realizing it, because he told me the story that He's my sponsor. So I gloved on to this guy. He said, yeah, I'll sponsor. You're like three weeks in.

He went, do you remember me? And I go, no. He tells me that story. So I think that that is, you know, one of those universe things that full circle around. And, yeah, so it's, he profoundly changed my life. Comedically taught me things in every level he taught. He just, you know, I learned from, you say mentor. Yeah, those were mentors to me, heroes, mentors.

close friends. I was really grateful to have that. I do want you to mention your photography building an end. The name of my book is the best seat in the house. I forgot the sub thing. It's funny, actually. Like pictures I've taken of people that nobody asked for, just like something stupid.

But it's really, it's a good quip. Anyhow, it's pictures of me. No, I'm in one shot, which is me and a mirror for my intro to the book, but I'm not in the pictures. It's pictures I took during Curb, Susie, Larry, you know, J.B. And pictures from, I was in this movie Babylon, got pictures of Brad Pitt. My favorite picture in the book is one I took of Margarabi. I've got musicians, Jeff Tweedy, I've got an amazing shot. I love it.

These are all people that I'm working with when I take these pictures. John Mullaney, I have an action shot of John Malaney. You think of John Malaney as just sort of, I've got one that if you see the picture you go, you think he's more like Sam Kinnison when you see the picture. Oh, he's screaming. Oh, he looks like he's screaming. I don't know what he's doing. But I got that.

I got all sorts of comedians, heroes of mine. And they're, all the shots from set, but all my shots on set. are environmental. In other words, there has to be a boom in the shot or something, because then I'm treading on the separate photographer's place. So I show people in a scene, like Larry in a scene, but there's all the stuff around it. And then what happened that day? Is that what you're saying? Well, I'll talk about maybe. No, I don't, yes, I go into moments. Craft services. I have a great one of Richard Kind. That's a great story another time.

But it's all these essays I write for every one of the pictures. As a means of documenting your career, it's a really neat way to do it. It is kind of a neat way to do it, although like I said, I'm not in the shot. I am in two of the shots, reflection. Art House. There's one of Jeff Ross in a window. I'm in the reflection, which one I took the picture, I did not notice. And one of Jennifer...

Annison? No. You know, she talks like this. Coolege. Jennifer Coolidge. I'm known her since the 80s. Anyhow. She's getting her makeup.

put on in a thing and I take a shot of her did not notice that I was in the mirror. I don't want to take a picture or if I may have anything to do with it. But those are in there, but no intent. And it's not, it's really all about these beautiful people and funny people that I've known and work with. Through your point of view. From my point of view. It's kind of cool. And they're all in, the set shots are environmental. The portraits are all environmental. Nobody, I'm not setting up anything. It's all in the moment. I love using natural light. I don't crop. It's just a very specific way. Actually, I want to take a picture of you right now to end the show. I was going to ask, yeah. No, no, that's why I'm, I think with these lights, it should be four, it should be four.

Let me just see some here. It might be blown out. Let me go to, hold on, let me go to five, six. How do I look at it? Oh, very beautiful. But you don't have to even, the fact that you're posing is hilarious. You're very funny. Dude. Let me see if I... Oh, they're great. They're great.

Jeff Carly there, everyone. Thank you so much, too. I want to keep these also.