The Adam Friedland Show (Cumtown) - NICK WRIGHT Talks LeBron, Skip, Pundit Beef

Episode Date: December 10, 2025

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How's he doing? You check it over? I have not. Really? He and I... Listen, it's wrong. But that, I'm... One and a half million dollars.

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My guest this week is sports broadcaster and host of First Things First on FS1, The Goat. Nick Wright. For me, this is a big opportunity. Both a debut and also a greatest hits out. I've been saving up these takes for 38 years, my whole life. And here I had to finally unleash them. So for a few short hours, I got to feel like some of my heroes,

like, you know, Ski-Up, or Unk, or Big Perk, or, you know, Ryan Rissillo, cousin Sal, Keith Oberman, you know, Chuck Diesel, Roy Keene, Jimmy Johnson, Pat McAfee, and, you know, and let's not forget Joe Rogan, Chris Collinsworth, Doris Burke, girl, Colin Cowherd, pause, Dan Patrick, Jimmy the Greek,

Mike Francesa, Malika Andrews, Scott Van Pell, Matt Barnes, Oh, Matt Barnes, Stephen Jackson, All the Smoke, you know, the list, The list obviously goes on. You know, Ocho Sinko, Travis Kelsey, the fat brother. Tieri Henri,

you got Gilbert Arenas, Nick Young, Mace, Cam, Hassan Pekere, Stav, Bob Costas, Al Michaels, Gus Johnson, Harry,

Mary, Marv Albert, Kenny the Jet Smith, of course, Ernie, Ernie E.J. Johnson, you know, Voice of Velvet. I mean, that, guys, I mean, I could go, I mean, I could go on forever, you know. Like John Madden, Brent Musburger, you know, I can keep going to Chick, Chick,

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to become a get a big enough name by doing sports that i could it was basically olberman's career path become a big enough name doing sports that i could then do politics yeah but i've i think we've started already right thomas yeah you Okay, great. We're all kind of exhausted right now. This is the third interview in three days. Oh, who all have you done? And then the mayor is coming on.

Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. I'm MSM now, dude. I'm mainstream. Yeah, yeah. Crossed over. I'm going to bring out, um... Long way from the Comtown podcast.

No, it's the same thing, basically. But it's a smart rebrand. It's like two chains. It's not deliberate at all. Titty boy? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I think Titty boys coming on. Oh, that's...

Oh, really? Are you a big tech nine head? Yeah. He's the guy of your city. Yeah, I like him a lot. And he's a really good dude. Is he, oh, you know him from the celebrity, Kansas. Well, yeah, I mean, there's very, there's not a ton of folks that are, like, born and raised Kansas Cityans with, like, national.

There's a bunch of people in the comedy world. Really? Stone Street. That never moved. Rutt. Well, I don't know. You know, I think they moved, but, I mean, they're born and raised there. Like, Paul Rudd, Stone Street, John Hamm.

Are you Casey K or Casey? Casey Mo. Casey Mo. Yeah, almost everyone you'd meet is Casey Moe. Do you, do you fuck with KC.? It's more posh, right? No, it's the opposite. Oh, it's trash?

Oh, it's trash? Oh, I wouldn't. Kansas City, Kansas is a really tough area. Yeah. Because to me, it all sounds terrible. It sounds, I feel like they're all eating meat and just 900 pounds. Well. You went Kansas City to Houston?

I went Kansas City to Houston, L.A. to New York. Are you so slim? You're so trim. You went to some big places. I went to some big places. I went to some big places. I mean, you went to the gastric bypass capital in America. Houston is that?

Yeah, yeah. Is that a fact or a hypothesis? I watched 600 pound life when ball is along. Yeah, they're always, and yeah, the guy's always like, please stop eating. And then they have to go home and they just can't, they can't stop. But yeah, so the, no, you're fine. But no, the reason you thought Kansas is more posh is, posh is, I don't know if anyone cares about this, there's a road in Kansas City, literally called

State Line Road, that's exactly what it sounds like. That sounds awesome. And the Kansas, like, so if you are in KC. Moe and you cross over into Kansas, it's mostly suburbs and stuff. But that's not Kansas, that's like places called Lee Wood and Overland Park. And so there's, there's a part, like. So the burbs in Kansas are nice. Very nice. And fun fact, the state of cans people are like why is can city in missouri because the state of kansas was named after the city of kansas city kansas missouri existed kind of pathetic yeah yeah yeah yeah they made the whole state after us after so yeah now they're trying to take the chiefs and the royals they're trying to get the chiefs and the royals to move state across state line yeah be a travesty to go to k

go to so there's local rivalries there oh yeah with the other guys well they you all put on for pat though of course yeah yeah so that's where you make peace well the chiefs and royals are everyone's, but for a lot of those folks went to local colleges. So M.U., K.U. K. State are like the local rivals. Jayhawks. Yeah. KU. Jahawks. Yeah. You're a ball nowhere. I love ball. Was football or basketball? At this point basketball, kind of the, the tuck game, kind of, I cried because I'm a Raiders fan. And it wasn't fair. And I remember. And we're the same age? You're I'm 38, you're 42. I'm 41, but yeah.

41, sorry. No, you're fine. You don't look a day over. Thank you. But, yeah, I thought it was really cute. Like, the, you were like a kid, the kid, the Casey kid. Yeah, yeah. Nick, Nick, do you mean when I called into the radio shows?

Nick, the kid. Yeah, I called into all the chiefs post game shows. And you yell about Marty Schotenheimer and, yeah, Andre Risen. Yeah, that's right. Andre Risen, I met him in an airport once. We hate each other. Oh, because you're a Raiders fan. Yeah, you guys have a tough couple.

A couple decades. I literally grew up in Vegas, too. I was born in L.A. and then grew up in Vegas. Very similar to my path. When they moved to Vegas, I stopped being a fan. It's just not real. Half of the stadium is traveling fans because they want to go get fucked up. Yeah, same with the L.A.

Same with Chargers. That's not an L.A. team. If you talk to the Mexicans in L.A., they're still loyal to the Raiders. Yes, 100%. They're the most loyal people in the world. world. The Raider, well, the Raiders are like one of the biggest national brands in large part they're in Mexico too. Yes, that's what I was going to say. And their Latin fan base is crazy. It's Dallas and the Raiders. Yeah. Yeah. America's team. They should kind of like stop liking the Cowboys

then if it's America's team. We've been pretty mean to Mexico for a while. Yeah. I, you know, I hadn't thought about that. The moral conundrum of being a Hispanic Cowboys fan. It's strange. Yeah. And honestly, you know, they should probably just embrace. The Kansas City Chiefs. I know a guy who has a... He used to, like, help out with the show. He's a tattoo on his ass, and it's a Dallas Cowboys star and a Palestine flag.

And I was like, that's the only one in the world. That is the only one. And it's on his ass, too. Why'd you fire him? I didn't fire him. No, he was, like, a freelance kind of guy. Why didn't you bring him back? I don't know.

He lives in Jersey. He's a good guy. I like him a lot. He's a documentarian. He's a documentarian with a Cowboys' Tats. tattoo on his ass? No, he's not showing the people in the documentary's ass. No, I got that, but it just seems like a highbrow job and maybe a...

I don't know, you're saying he's stupid? No, I'm not saying it's stupid. A Jersey Cowboys fan, that has to be the worst kind of guy. Well, so I agree, and I also now, when people, if I meet people and they don't know me, and they're like, oh, who's your team, I have to preface it with, well, I'm born and raised Kansas City or else they'll think you're like oh you're a chief's fan living in New York you're just frontrunner no one does that though even though you guys are good no one does it you know that you know that well we they're just not I don't know like we took on you know

the all of the Swift Taylor Swift fans yeah yeah so that's the now you have to pretend it's not baby music you because you're fucking tight end you have to think I mean I love shake it off no you want to see some guy get his head knocked off you're not there for fucking can shake it off. I wish I could talk about this stuff on TV. Why don't you? I'm on the, I do long form, uh, Jewish style, uh, late night talk. I don't know what the fuck. The, the cute thing about the, the kid, uh, radio station. Yeah. I was a very precocious kid myself. And when I was four, I think, I was at a part, like a parents party with my parents. And I would talk to parents. Yeah. I did the same thing. People from the Raiders front office. And, uh,

I, like, was yelling at them, like, badgering them that they had a fiery art shell. So I... I think I heard my dad say it, you know? When I was 10, I happened to, like, I was somewhere and my... One of my mom's friends said, hey, that guy is the president of the Miami Dolphins. And I was... Palinga or... No, I think it was...

I think it, I don't really remember. What is it? Wayne Hezinga, who it was at the time. Yeah. And I walked over to him and I was like, I just want to let you know. Hiring Jimmy Johnson's the greatest move you've ever made. Fuck it. Of course.

Right. And so, yeah, it's very similar to. Yeah, at 10, you're like, yo, he's leaving the Cains and he's coming to the big leagues. Well, no, he had just left the Cowboys. Oh, he came after that's right. Yeah, the cat, once Jerry and him fell out. Dude, your wife likes to, like, these kind of car. You have to be the most bored, unless you like it.

No, she's... How boring is it? My girlfriend says, oh, did your team lose? And I have to be like, did my team lose? And I'm like, my feelings are hurt because I care about, like, men with great bodies. Yeah. I just as I realized as an adult that we shouldn't be wearing jerseys. No, of course.

I can't be wearing a man's name on my shirt. Yeah, I think there is... We came up with rules, actually. in the office oh can I hear him uh if you're sorry if you're white you uh not past 13 if you're if you're um if you're black like do do your thing um and if you're no and if you're Mexican you know come on you're the real so I pretty much like a white guy can't wear a jersey past 13 I think here's the there are to me a couple exceptions I'm not a hockey fan.

I think hockey sweaters just like look like an awesome outfit almost. And I think baseball jerseys, two baseball games. I never win my team's playing. I can't wear the jersey. I'm very superstitious. Clearly. I can't touch the jersey, in fact. Really?

Yeah. And I'm primarily at this point into soccer. Who's your team? Oh, I was going to. Just because they're in first place? No, it's been 20 years of hell. Well, I mean, yeah, but right now you're a fan. They're in first place.

No. I'm just fucking with you. My buddy, this is going to sound too. It means so much, and it's ridiculous. So our, the guy who does stats for the TV show, is a great kid named Josh. He's a diehard Arsenal fan. Yeah, yeah.

He doesn't know like me. I mean, I tell you, probably knows a lot. The mayor knows ball. The mayor of New York City? Yeah, yeah. Zora. Oh, I would buy that. I met him, like, before the election. We were talking about our worst, most humiliating losses over the last year.

For Arsenal? Is his team Arsenal? Yeah. Oh, okay. He knows. I play cards with a guy who is... Come on, you can't be talking about it. What? Cards, dude. Why can't I be talking about cards?

It's a big... You're going to get in trouble. I don't want to see you locked up. I play in legal games. You play it? What do you mean legal games? So this would nobody understand. stands about poker. If all of us in this room agreed to play in a card game, we could play for

$10 a man. But you don't want to play with us. You want to play with cool guys in movie? I understand, but just hear me out. Or a million dollars a man, and that's totally legal. I play you in a million dollars, yeah. Okay, let's do it. I'm going to vanquish you on sports takes after this. Okay, but no, the reason I was saying that this guy, he's a diehard sports fan who lives in New York City has the two best court side nix seats in the building right next to Mike Brown now, not Tibido,

and has a box at Arsenal that he just goes to for every home game. The fuck, bro. Yeah. I should introduce you guys. This guy, I don't even like him, but he just knows at the same level

and we talk every day about this. The amount that I care, like, if my girlfriend knew, she would leave me. Are you in a bad mood all week if they lose? What happens is this. You get the game.

games in the morning yeah right and so it's like a Saturday morning you're a little bit hung over your girlfriend's still in bed and you go to the living room and you're sitting there and they they just they they ruin you before your weekends so the it's the saying is it's the hope that kills you so yeah the listen I've been obviously chiefs have been very good the last half decade this year's been tough does it feel worse and worse at each time yes it doesn't feel each chip each chip like is doesn't hit it as heavy right yeah Well, yeah, nothing will ever match the first one.

But being a football fan and having your team lose, it doesn't ruin your weekend. But, like, we're doing this on a Friday. Yesterday was the first day that I was not in a depression based on the Chiefs Broncos game. Who's the coolest guy of the Chiefs? The coolest guy on the Chiefs? I mean, I'm buddies with Patrick, so I would say him.

And Travis, Travis certainly had that mantle. Travis has, you know, Travis has become so famous, he has kind of more careful now. Yeah, yeah, he fell off. No, I didn't say he fell off. I didn't say he fell off. I didn't say he fell off. I didn't say he fell off. By far, the coolest guy on your team is Andy.

Well, he's not on the team, but yes. Yeah, but he's the coolest guy in that vicinity. Everyone else is a real dorkess. I meet it. Chris Jones pretty cool. I saw him at a restaurant, and I, It's one of the most massive people I've ever seen in my entire life.

Did you see him run the 40 at the Combine? No, not in a restaurant with my parents. I understand, but this is funny for you. Oh, his penis fell out. There you go. I never miss a penis sports thing. I imagine that. When Braun's dick came out,

everyone relaxed. Everyone was chill about it. When did that happen? Before a finals game. He was adjusting his shorts and we saw his dick. How do you not know? the media i i did not know you're in the fucking mainstream fake news media yeah and i'm

you didn't know that he's your favorite guy he is my favorite player are you like stoked you are you stoked about it stoked about what that there's a lebron come on bro so you went fox uh 2016 yes how have you you've been in tv for nine years yeah have you enjoyed it what's the vibe of Fox. Is it like more Republican sports or? No, it's so it's super. Listen, it is super siloed. Like the Fox Sports were owned by the same people, but Fox Sports is, I've never, I've been doing it for nine years. I'm pretty openly liberal guy. I've never had, I think one of my most famous things ever was right when the show started some impassioned Kaepernick stuff. And I never. How were you the only guy? How are you like, what of the, it's like, you want to

know something. It's so bizarre to me. I'll tell you something. You just caught the easiest ones. What do you mean? He took a knee and he was like, what the fuck did he do wrong? Of course. And then like LeBron James is the best basketball player? Oh, you mean? Oh, that, yes. You just filled vacancies there where I'm like

they were just there. They were just there. Everyone and then my hometown team becomes the greatest football team ever. I've become very lucky. Yeah, yeah. I'm very lucky that somehow... How stupid are the other guys doing this? Well, that's, again, I I love a lot of mine. Really, they must be morons.

I'm not going to say everyone's a moron, but I will say that I, it is... You and Skip are the only smart people. How's he doing? You check it on? I have not. Really? He and I... Listen, it's wrong.

But that am... One and a half million dollars. Like, for someone to say, no, I won't have sex with you for a million and a half dollars, he's got... That really has to hurt your feelings. Skip must be so... Like, he's like, what's, I'm that repulsive. A million, like, okay, would you have sex with, your wife is here?

I'm sure she would say go, for a million and a half dollars, would you let Skip crack? I'm sorry, I would, it must be, listen, it's wrong, he shouldn't do that in a workplace. I'm not defending Skip, but walking away, he must be, just, he must be hurting. And I'm not saying you should check in, but. Maybe we should call him right now and see. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Would you tell him if it was on the table still,

if Skiyip was like, all right, Nick, your rank second, would you be like, yeah, he would get you something so nice? A million and a half dollars? I would let him do whatever he wants to be. You're not going to be gay. The rest, I'm like, it doesn't make you gay. It's me, sorry, I'm on a rant right now.

And I should be doing this on a, Fox Sports One. What about, have you checked it on Unc? The squad is having a rough one. Listen, I have been, the, I moved to New York. I got hired by Fox in 2016. And then I, the show started in New York in 2017. So I never, those, I never really was on campus with those guys.

So they were colleagues, but I don't know them like. They must have been so funny to see them like the, like the odds. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Come on now, ski. Yeah. Do they have arguments? Dude, I mean, I'm saying it's just that they were box office for a while.

They kind of, it kind of, they found something there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That show, that show, Skipping Shannon at its peak was one of the greatest sports television shows of all time. It was perfect. And it's just like, are there bad faith takes? Are some guys bullshitting? Some guys, 100%.

And you can tell. Skip doesn't think LeBron is that bad. No, see, I don't think Skip's bullshitting. Why does he hate LeBron for it? That one is a weird one. It's like perverse, in fact. It makes sense that Stephen A, why Stephen A is doing. Yeah, Stephen A, Stephen A is mad that LeBron won't pay him attention.

That's what it is. No, it's kind of maybe someone's... Okay. Without naming names, does Mike... does he have influence oh yeah oh you mean the fact that Stephen that Stephen A and Mike are buddies I feel and yeah of course obviously Mike is at the crib North Carolina hitting tequila and he's like go fuck with Braun a little bit yeah he's been making his life hell for 22 years yeah yeah I mean that that's that's I think

there I'm a Kobe fan too like it's just but but it's so obvious to me it is in well I think there's a lot of I think there's a lot there but I think you there are some of the most ardent either Braun critics or MJ sycophants are also texting with MJ I do think that's okay so for our audience that's not familiar with what you do how would you describe your job I think we should we're obviously is a sports yeah I mean I'm I'm what they call they call me an opinionist I'm a sports talk show host I'm wanting when people when I yeah Pundit, I don't know.

When people ask me, I'm definitely not a journalist. Really? When people, because I don't practice journalism. Oh, you don't, it's niche. No, that's, no, that's, I just don't, I'm not out there, like, reporting on stories and stuff. When people ask me what I do,

I say I'm one of those people that argues about sports on TV. So sick. I mean, it's such a, in concept, it's such a funny concept, right? And I think it really comes from Mike, right? It comes from Mike the Mad Dog. I think they're the genesis of all this. 100%. The concept, if, the loose concept,

of two men at a table having a point counterpoint like let's you let's do it you really want argues let's just pretend I kind of want to ask you but I'm more interested in like how what the ecosystem is nowadays because I mean like okay you came in nine years ago broad was what in his 13th season yeah I mean I started at Fox three months before the three one come back against Golden State and I looked around and so like the block the three months before the Um, and he's a smart guy the 25% right 25% what is smart oh the oh dude as business man what would I be I what would I be my mom's grandfather was Jewish uh yeah so is that 25 yeah I mean you feeling the LeBron James is good at

basketball vacancy well so that's the that was the unbelievable that was the unbelievable thing so he was Brown and I are the same high school class I came from a Kent City doesn't have an NBA team you said he says he same high school class like where so there's a reason i'm saying ohio no i got it but just listen to me for a second you're at oh you're best friend so in no but so in high school me and my basketball teammates would watch the same vincent same marriage games and they're on tv because it's so fucking cool that this guy right we thought it was like this guy is our age and kansas city didn't have a team yeah so i was just like you know what wherever that guy goes

that's going to be he's there was no high school basketball kansas city no we didn't have an NBA team. Oh, okay. And so I was like, that's, I didn't have, I was unaffiliated from NBA fandom. So LeBron was always my favorite player. And then I get on national TV and everyone is, the argument people are having is, one day will he pass Michael Jordan. And that's like as far as anyone will go.

Like the third rail was he might one day be able to be as good as him. And then I was on TV during the three one comeback, the great three-game stretch in the history of the sport, 41, 16, and 7, 41, 8, and 11, and then 29-point triple-double with the greatest defensive play ever. Oh, yeah. And I, the next day on TV, I said, he just passed him. It's over. The block was his moment in his career.

That was his moment. And he's been, I mean, that was 10 years ago. The shot, right, over Brian Russell. Yeah. That's like kind of their... Yes, they each have their moments. Luckily, Brons, you didn't have to push off. But, uh...

Yeah, they were playing against truck drivers. And so, well, they... I mean it. They're so good right now. There's certainly so good. They're so good. So much better than previous errors, but everybody is playing the era you're in. But to your point, it was remarkable that no, that that corner was unguarded.

That like, hey, just say the guy who's obviously the greatest player ever is the greatest player ever and I became famous for it. So why? I think, why isn't everyone the LeBron guy, right? I think because people are, I think there's a lot of. a lot of the most influential media folks a lot of their legacies are tied to the Jordan era bulls and so they are very protective of we watched that as kids yeah but we were it was cool we were very young it's like what's your favorite music

pretty much eclectic so but like if you the for a lot of people their their favorite song yeah is like the first one of the first songs they listened to the first time they were driving their own car and I think there's a lot of media of folks that the greatest era of sports is the era when I broke into sports broadcasting that was going on. But they're all from Boston. It doesn't compute. Yeah, but so.

There's obviously a nostalgia factor, but like also there might just be, there might be, like, do you think the media has elevated this, like, goat debate, right? Well, I think I have. But, like, people, like, do you think, to something said, you've kind of been lucky that, like, LeBron is like, you know, like you're doing the right thing. I'm not saying like you're, this is like disingenuous, but you've benefited from like LeBron getting pummeled, you know. Oh, 100%.

The fact that it is, the fact that it was controversial to say the greatest high school, the greatest prospect ever who has played, has all of the youngest ever due records and oldest ever do records, who has every record imaginable, that it's still controversial. virtual will be like he's the best has been hugely beneficial for me it would be but why is it uniformly is like no there are guys that weren't like uh nostalgic for the bulls championship like is it is it personality driven yeah i mean i think that so here's again this might be two inside sports for your viewers no no i know i the so i have a theory that if jordan never if jordan never existed uh-huh and the greatest play

The universally accepted greatest player of all time was Kareem, because that's who it would have been. I know what you're going to say. Jordan never existed at 9-11. Wouldn't have. Right. Then a guy like Tim Duncan would be in the goat debate. Because what people turned the goat debate into was not who's the greatest player ever. It's who reminds me of Michael Jordan the most.

Which is why Kobe is probably a touch, a touch historically over. overrated because he is the most similar to Michael Jordan. Not today, Satan. But I'm just, like, if magic was considered the goat, then no one would argue that LeBron was, because LeBron is a better magic. But because Mike was considered the goat, people elevated Kobe past a guy like Tim Duncan who was just objectively better than it. They said one B, that's right?

Exactly. And that's crazy. So you're saying that he benefited from Michael? I'm saying that instead of the argument being- Right. Right. Instead of the question being, who's the greatest basketball player of all time, people ask that question, but they were really asking is who's the most similar to Michael Jordan? And those are not the same thing. Yeah. I agree. I just think that, I think Tim didn't like carry. He didn't have the aura or the gravitas.

No, well, he didn't like, he had good players. He had Manu and he had total. Oh, yeah, Kobe only had Shaquille O'Neal. What, Kobe, like, Kobe, like the, second two or like the second right but what what hurts again what hurts Kobe is the three years in the middle of his prime when he missed the playoffs or lost in round one smack dab in the middle of his prime with who Andrew Bynum well that's the thing but in the NBA like you're supposed to you know just you carry guys he was left alone and he was listen here's the thing about Braun okay like he is the beta tester for like a new type of superstar the NBA right

not like Jordan marketed sneakers right now they have to also market their themselves as human beings, right? And to, let's be Christian for a second, 100%, 25%. But I'm still a living, let live Christian, right? Obviously, the first guy to have to do it is going to be a clumsy adjustment, right? Sure. You know, and I don't think that that's afforded to LeBron enough, right? And I do think that, like, the decision was potentially the first kind of brick.

right in the social media era yeah and i think he that one year he just had a rough one because he when he lost the mabs he just said if you don't like me you're poor and like yeah he did that thing it's the only real that that press conference after that finals loss yeah in a 25 years in the public eye it's the only on indefensible misstep the per the when he picked up the purse he had the suit with shorts well that i'm also uta clutch sports we're family i love you lebron i'm I'm so happy you're back.

Anyway, he actually, the shorts and the suit. Well, that was, yeah, yeah. That was right before the three-one comeback. Yeah, that was the same. I know. But he was like, he was like being an awesome. Yeah, the Tom Ford suits would have been better had they won that game. The worst was the shutter shades, Miami, uh, and like the fate, the nerd glasses, the D-Wade.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just think that, like, LeBroad was beloved. We all knew that he was so good. We all knew that those fucking Cavs teams were doo-doo cheeks. right and like i don't think he would have been blamed for leaving right potentially if he went to the nicks i think and did the decision like that no one would have cared um but there was something about the not not two not three not four which is like he's a he's still like he's adjusting to a pressure that no one's ever applied to it yeah i listen and i think that but the

that's the remarkable thing about the guy's career is like the thing in miami or in against alice happened and for you're asking that was a a sick team. That Dirk run was all. Oh, it's probably the... He lost to J.J. Bray. I mean, it was a little... Well, he lost to Dirk Novitsky. I mean, J.J. Barre, it was pretty much the... I know that's what the myth is, but it's

not true. They say it as a mean thing they say. But that, no, the folks, to answer your question of why it's controversial to say he's the greatest, a lot of people decided in that moment he's ineligible. He'll never be able to overcome it. But that was

14 years, non. finals appearances and four championships ago you you have his like number or like do you do you like to uh no has he ever said your selfie or no has he ever liked Instagram or no no I have a good relationship with him but I yeah I mean you put on for him has he said thank you ever actually oh yeah yeah he should as well he should but like what I'm saying is this is like it is a ridiculous standard to hold him to but what I think is

I don't know if you get his number just text him just be yourself you're the best basketball player ever I think at this point in his career he is

what is the decision for a fucking Hennessy it's just like come on dude like anybody that was tricked

by that fucking Hennessy pread is a moron why because anybody that thought he's 41 anybody that thought

LeBron was going to announce his retirement at a noon on a Tuesday online. Yeah. What are you, did you, the USSR, the state media? That makes no sense. What do you mean?

Tuesday is not a retirement day? What does that even mean? I'll tell you exactly what it means. And anyone that thinks that Tuesday is a retirement day is a moron. Anybody that that thought that LeBron That's bizarre. It's not bizarre at all. No, it's just, he's 41 and we're like,

how much longer is he going to go? He's the best best point ever. Correct. Wondering whether or not he might retire does not make you an idiot, thinking it's going to be one day notice and I'm going to do it in the middle of a week, middle of a workday as opposed to a major event in prime time. I don't know. So I guess I'm calling you an idiot.

So he's never retired on a Tuesday before? He's not going to retire noon on a Tuesday online. Who knew that? Anybody with a... Literally, 99.9% of people don't know that. You're putting off for your boy. I appreciate it. it's just not it's just not the how let me ask you this what how do you think he will

announce i'm going to retire i will okay uh he'd probably do like the cobi year was like the video tributes and like it was yeah so he would give it was me that was the worst year and but uh and then it was the best sports game i've ever seen in my entire life at the end the 60 point game it was just the most i was weeping like i called my dad weeping and uh and it was kind of like also just sorry to get stuck on Kobe but no it was All of the fucking math nerds that were like, he's inefficient, he's inefficient, he's, he just, no one saw an inefficient shooting performance for like a 13 win team. They saw a god. They saw like, somebody that we thought we'd never see again, and then he came back for one night.

He channeled it. And, uh... It's one of the greatest sports performances ever. I think it is the best sports game I've, uh, yeah, I've ever. You can just say game. What? You don't have to say sports game. Well, I, uh, there are other.

types of games like girls play games you know I understand but but even if we included that or do any of those trumpet or is it I don't know the best game you're trying to flex on me in terms of sports game no I'm saying it a nerd way because that's how I do the interview okay but going back to like uh-huh like it's just like he doesn't need he doesn't need to do that just to protect himself right he's like he's already the best basketball player ever and I do think it's like it's similar to KD right he's a he's a he's a that is a basketball angel that is a savant there's an offensive savant and we got to watch him and

he's the burner accounts indicated that like the boys are going into the comments the boys are checking reddit yeah and it's like um it's really depressing for me because i'm like you know if i had like let's say a hundred million dollars like i wouldn't give a fuck about it i disappear right don't you think though that that's evidence maybe you wouldn't the fact that the people who have it Don't make doesn't make you doubt whether or not if you had it I'm not judging him for it I think that it's just like it just indicates a vulnerability and insecurity when it's like bro like you're the best you literally are the best yeah and I think the goat debate being perpetuated has uh has kind of uh kind of perhaps like influence that you know like people saying that he's not the best basketball

player when he's 41 and he what was he 24 six and six last year Sixth and MVP voting, second team all NBA in year 22. It's unbelievable. What was it 24, 6 and 6? Yeah, that's right. At 41. At 40. And he was a, he was like.

Yeah, no, listen, it's nobody. Here's the thing. It will, people in 40 years won't believe that it was an argument, that it was, like, people will think no. And so that part is unequivocally true. this is going to age as you got to be kidding me people argued for someone else like and and like it's like a madman where they're at a picnic and then they just shake out all their garbage into a field and you're like oh they didn't have littering back then you know what i mean that's the only prestige great show that i've never seen it's not good it's just fashion no no

it's good my wife my wife owns a women's boutique and is a style does she do you dress him yes Give it up for her. You are, you, he's a peacock. You have the best, you have some of the best, I think, like, you, that, I think in a debate, I think you dressed like, like, I don't know, peeky blinders kind of like, like, Atlanta Church Peeky Blinders? Yeah. Is that, I'm sorry.

You just, it's a powerful move. You're like a sharply dressed man. Well, I try, listen, there is, I do not have a, a face for traditional TV. We wear what they tell us. Come on. No, no, no. Right. So I have to, I do a lot of things, whether it be the hair or the jewelry or the clothes, to kind of distract from.

You're not distracting. It's a flex against the guy you're arguing. Because you're like being like a, you're like doing a closing argument at like defense attorney. Well, I thought you were going to do it to me. You're like defense attorney of a client who's so guilty. Yeah, yeah. I was worried you're going to do that to me because when I walked in, you said you had to go change for the show, but then you just put on a worst t-shirt. Well, it's.

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I think you should go all in on it. The Stephen A fucking Windhorst LeBron thing was just, it felt like fly. I was locked in on that. Right. It was yellow journal. I mean, like. And I, listen, I don't think Wendy is in a separate category. I think Wendy is one of the most respected guys in the business.

when Braun did that? I thought what Braun did. Did you say, then there was one? That was, yeah. Did you? That's the, I thought Bronn taking that shot at Wendy

was unnecessary. Yeah. I think the, I think everything he just said about, it's like, you don't have to say it. This guy went to your high school or something. Actually,

not like you, the liar. And then like, you know, he thinks you're awesome and he's like, he's been like, like,

celebrating you for 20 years. I thought that one was weird. I thought he was weird. could have gone harder at Stephen A. Yeah. Well, first of all, okay, just on a basic moral level, if some guy's shitting on your son constantly, and he's a

two-way player, and he's getting mentioned more than the fucking MVP, like, SGA, like he's a dad. He's going to be like, shut the fuck on, you. But it also, but it wasn't, it was... He's entirely within his res. Of course, but it's also...

That whole thing was all of it was, in my opinion, What Braun was so upset about was when Stephen A flipped it from criticizing Brani the player to criticizing Bronny the father, when he's like, I'm pleading with you as a father to stop this farce. The being the dad protecting the son is better. That name is better. I understand, but it is what it is. Don't attack me. That's rough.

Either way. He's just a two-way player. He's in the G-League half the time. The South Bay Lakers. And they're just like, it's because it's Braun's son, and he's just getting all this fucking attention. And plus, he's a real one kind of for going to LA. Can you imagine being on a team with your dad?

It'd be so annoyed. My dad would be fucking, like, just, I would go to Phoenix, get blowjob after blowjob. I wouldn't go on the team with my dad. That sucks. He's a real one for actually doing it. I mean it. I mean that.

Yeah, he's like, I'm gonna, yeah, my dad's gonna, like, if I miss something, a shot, like my dad's gonna be like, It's annoying And your dad's the best basketball player ever Well that's the other that's the other tough part Good on Brody But beyond that

It was the first time I didn't I think it was at the beginning of the administration It was the first time I just didn't think of Trump and Elon For a week I got a vacation Because of LeBron Stephen A stuff Well because like

LeBron takes a shot of windy And then I'm like that's peculiar And then then Stephen A Okay first off He said like And if you touch me I will have no choice but to put hands on you who are you who seriously that's the part that was who you're taking in that well I mean that I mean it was such an insane statement it was

and then like it's he's six eight six eight six eight the greatest athlete of all time that all of it and then wouldn't and then Stephen A wouldn't stop talking about it you talked about it again right before this season started the funeral thing is a little bit my fault it's your fall yeah how I told Pablo I met him in the the Nets game with the right after we got Luca the Lakers were in town and we were at a bar and I was like I was like I was like why why wasn't LeBron at the memorial and he's like he was like I don't we didn't see him right and then he was like yeah well his daughter was being born that day and then that happened and right before that happened he text

me he's like I've talked to like 25 people This is my white whale. And so you're the genesis of that story? I told my dad, he's like, you fucked up our playoff run. You fucking idiot. I just like, I wanted to know where he was. The other thing is this. These two guys were like not nice to him.

Can you imagine Braun wore 23? He wore 23. And this guy's being a dickhead to him. Forever. Forever. Jordan's relationship with Braun is really fascinating. Yeah. Do you think that Kobe?

and MJ thought it was soft that he has friends. Really? They were two guys, like, as a man, you shouldn't have friends. Seriously. I mean, I haven't thought about it that way, but maybe. Yeah. The other thing was this, is like, Bra was dipped into the river sticks.

Like, God gave us that human being. Like, those two guys had to become sociopaths to, like, achieve their greatness. And, like, there was a dissimilarity, I think. Well, yeah, I mean, listen. Kobe's path is Jordan's path, and with the exception of, like, Kobe's dad obviously played in the NBA. Obviously, all these guys have a lot of physical gifts.

Where did Jordan's dad play? Not in the NBA. That's why I said with the exception. How many get killed? He's going to kill him. And, Braun's path, I would say, is closer to magics as far as... Brown's like, he's a webby. He's a freak of nature.

Maybe that's a better. Yeah, yeah. Kareem, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think he was 18 years old. He was already built for the NBA. Yeah, I mean, at 20, he was the best player in the league. Yeah, I remember, I was second in MVP voting. MVP voting is just suckups like you.

I don't have a vote. Try to suck up to him. I don't have a vote. I'm sure, I'm sure. I'm glad you don't. I should vote. I'm sure when Brown was 20 and Kobe missed the playoffs because he didn't have enough players, you still thought Kobe was better.

Evil Kobe. Was that go-teeat, 80? the yeah that yes I mean or that that that era and then the next year I didn't I was abroad that year when you were um you know crying about Saucre Buyuch and Braun was taken Delante west of the NBA final he was the machine the machine do the the eyebrows yes Vujich was good the thing is this like I'm a Kobe fan but I accept that LeBron is the goat right and when we won in the bubble which is by the way was the the toughest championship correct

Right? And the fact that... And they had home court and they were the team that didn't get to use it. There's no home... Oh, exactly. That my point is they had earned home court and then nobody got home court. And like, it's just, from what I understand, like, it was draining. I mean, we saw Jimmy that game he just won single-handedly. Well, you were cooked.

No, I mean, the clippers fell apart. The Nuggets fell apart. You saw... AD hit the shot. Oh, I'm sorry. Nuggets didn't fall apart. The Clippers fell apart against the Nuggets. I can't believe the Clippers fell apart. I cannot believe it.

It's one of the greatest and do you know you know that the fucking Thunder have the Clippers' draft pick this coming year? It might be the fourth pick of the draft. How do they know Shea was good? Man I don't know. I mean everybody thought he was like oh he's better than expected.

Nobody thought this. Nobody in the world thought this was possible. Yeah. Comparing it to the to the lucca trade is crazy oh no no well the lucca trade was just uh Israel yeah no that was Mary mailsen it goes all the way to the top it's that is one of all the sports you like that you can't get it's why no that that is that is one of the most frustrating conspiracies is that the it's for the casino yeah that it's for the casino to move them to or to move it to Vegas

when it was very very simple nico harrison did not like that there was someone more powerful than him in the organization so he fucking she had a bad attitude is a fat boy yeah but i mean i don't even think that i think those were his excuses when it reality was he was like as long as lucas here yeah i won't really be in charge he will be he sold it as a win now he saw his win now and they're terrible and now they're gonna trade a d i love him

anthony davis i yeah in the bubble honestly when we won I had this thought to myself, does it feel the same? And it kind of did it. Because the Lakers, I kind of liked, like, Javel and Dwight. They were fun. Yeah. But it was a mercenary kind of team.

And I kind of thought to myself, like, does it feel like, you know, we had all these, like, kids, and then we threw him away for AD. I was so happy for AD. Like, when he was, like, crying, you could tell it meant so much. And I think they would have won again the next year if Braun didn't get hurt. The problem was that they started the season three weeks later. and the organization should have protected their two assets, their two biggest assets.

They should have sat out the first half of that season. Yeah, but I mean, they had the best record in the West when Solomon Hill did the cartwheel into LeBron's ankle. There was that, and then AD also went down to it. Well, yeah, but AD's gone down every year of his career except for the championship. Really? Are you being a smart ass?

I don't know. I don't know, dude. I feel bad for that guy. He seemed like, do you remember Kentucky during that tournament? Yeah. I just remember that I was like, this guy. is just an absolute comprehensive monster yeah yeah though I think he's I think the best process I you could argue that from Bron to Wimby yeah in that time

frame the single best prospect was Anthony Davis yeah well oh the your 40-year thing I have a counterpoint sure they're not gonna care about Braun M.J because of Wemby yeah I don't think he gets there why because every single player in the history of the league, that's 7-5 or taller, has just had terrible injuries. Yeah, but his body's different, dude. Really? Yeah, he's not... What's he doing right now?

He's not thick. He's not like Greg Oden. I... Yeah, but neither was, I mean... Who's your favorite body? Neither was Ralph Sanchez. Who do you think has the best body? I don't know.

I don't know. Really? I don't know. Probably Dwight, right? Dwight? Is he strong? Yeah, I mean, Dwight's like a bodybuilder. Yeah, yeah.

But I just don't think Wimby will stay healthy, sadly. And so far, that's been true. Did Dwight get kind of like blacklisted a little bit? I don't think so. After that stuff went, and now we're doing celebrity gossip. We are now doing celebrity gossip. But he was good still. I mean, he wasn't that good at that point.

He played a long time. Dwight played a long time. Was it after the championship? How many, where did he go after 2020? I think he went to China. I think he played with one other year. That team was like big and strong. Well, yeah, that team had a lot of, you know.

was the, they were built like, what's the best comp for that? The football team. No, the, they were kind of, like the 08 Celtics, like just a lot of length. I don't say that. I don't like Celtics either, but that's, think. That team also is just, do you think, how did you compare the current era to deadball? Like, do you think that those competitive, is there competitive parity there? What do you mean?

Because, like, everyone that played against Kobe, the impressive thing about Braun is that he transitioned between eras. Multiple eras, yeah. Yeah. But, like, now it's just, like, Steve Kerr, like, woked the league. You think it is, is wokeness. What do you mean? The three ball. Oh.

Yeah, yeah. You think it's just utter wokeness. I don't think. But, like, that era where it was, like, 87, 83 and, like, those, like, Lakers Celtics finals. Sure. Was that more difficult? Like, because of the rule changes. I think that they, it just totally changed the way the sports played.

I don't know if one's more difficult than the other. You're just trying to figure out a way to compliment LeBron. No, I'm not. I'm not. I just, so like the 80s were prior to the 20, no, prior to the 20s, the 80s were the highest scoring decade of the last 50 years. And then the 90s were the lowest scoring because, and it's all the, it's not same guys in the 80s and 90s, it's just a rule changers. Yeah.

Oh my God, my shirt's dirty. My girlfriend's out of town right now. Dude, how long have you even with your girlfriend? Five and a half years, fiancee. I was going to say, yeah, it's about time if it's five and a half years. Fabulous. How'd you propose? Oh, I bricked it so bad.

How'd you do it? Oh, my God. Okay, I was in, so, we got together a New Year's, five, it was going to be our five-year anniversary. So this is 10 months ago. I mean, does he come up with, like, plans, like romantic plans? Yeah, he definitely does. Look how romantic of a guy this is. I'm a mess of a guy.

So, yeah, she was going to Mexico City to see a friend. I said, she's like, do you want to come? And so then her friend was like... So it's New Year's Eve. Yeah, her friend was my man on the inside. You might be the first person ever proposed on New Year's Eve. Dude, I don't fucking know. Go ahead.

I want to hear. God damn it, dude. I want to hear. What did he do? She hated. She hated it. She hated it. Yeah.

No, she, but it was, she hated it. It was a great plan. Okay, fine. But go ahead. So I'm like, how can I not fuck it up, right? And so I told her friend, I was like, well, just do like 10, 9, 8, 7, kiss, and then I'll hand her, right? Simple.

Like, I, no way I could fuck it up. And then that night, my inside man was, like, way, like, trashed by, like, 930. Then the girls were like, let's make a move. And then so I had to, they're like, you're good at directions. And I'm like, oh, God. And I was like, and then we show up at a place at like 11, no one's there. It's completely empty. And I was like, you have to find a fucking, and also I ran my mouth to like too many people.

So my phone buzz, buzz, buzz, like, her brother hit me up. He's like, you guys are being fucking sussed, dude. He's like, I know it's going down. I want, like, let me see pigs. My family was convinced that I didn't want to include them in this special moment in my life. 25%. That's how they act. But like, yeah, so then I was like, I told her friend who also, she laughs when she's nervous.

So I was like, why are you laughing at me? And then I was like, you have to find a fucking party. I was like, this is my life. And then so then she found a party and we went in an Uber and dropped us off. And then I looked at it. And I was like, where is it? She's like, it's here. And it was a hospital.

It dropped us off at a hospital. And then like, we found this place where she was invited. And then it was like eight people around. around a coffee table and then I was like I'm not gonna get fucking propose here and then some guy was like you know the last episode was fire and I was like I'm not gonna propose in front of these people and then like all night we were trying to find a place it was like I was acting bad she was like why have you had such a bad attitude to New Year's I'm like I'm great I feel great and

then like finally like 3 a.m. we found a place and it was great and there was like people were they were playing like cumbia or whatever it just looked fun right and so I get patted down and then it was cold you know how they get cold sorry I apologize it was rude to me you know how they fucking they're always cold yeah so she was wearing my jacket and then she got patted down and then like the ring was in the inner pocket and they pulled it out and then I've been I've been so bad I've been so badly behaved that that I was like do you and she was like and then she said something

so sweet she said something so sweet I can't believe I'm telling Nick write this It's kind of love you, dude. Thanks. I appreciate it. And she said something so sweet, but, like, literally, like, it was so emasculator. Like, my penis, like, went in my body. She was, like, she said, well, it didn't work out tonight, but, like, maybe another time. And I was like, yeah, maybe another time.

And then, like, yeah. And then the whole next day, I was, like, trying, for the first time of my life. You know that, like, men, they're supposed to, like, if you're, you feel terrible about something, you're supposed to not mention it. Yeah. It was the first time I've ever done that, yeah. You just ate it. I let my phone die.

There was like 50 missed text because I ran my dumb ass mouth to everyone. And then at the end of the day, I was like, I feel terrible all day. And she's like, why do you just fucking ask me? And I was like, I thought I could do a plan. Like, just one fucking plan for the first time in my fucking life.

She's like, no, like, you're terrible at plans. That's why I make all the plans. You call me a micromanager, but you're incapable of plans. that's why you're lucky to be with me and I was like you're right that's so us you know and then she was like uh she's like why do you just fucking ask me and I was like really she's like yeah you think I would have liked that I was like it sounded good it was like I thought girls would like that kind of thing and she's like no she's like I don't have like I'm not

like a dumb bitch so then I was like woo and then she took it and I was weeping sick ring though it's like my my my late mothers and it's a great great grandmother or great grandmothers yeah from back of the day that's awesome yeah yeah well yeah yeah and I was crying she was like why being so dramatic I was like you were crying yeah so much yeah you cried too I didn't cry have you ever cried at sports uh when yeah not when you got engaged to your queen over here I didn't cry no I didn't cry I cry a lot I cried the first Lakers chip with Shaq and Kobe because I've never seen a team

of mine win. I remember I was peeing. Notice how you said the Shaq's name first. Shut the fuck up, right. Let's do this dumb thing. What's the 10? What's your 10? What's my 10? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Players ever?

That's what you want to do? We're just talking hoop. Okay, that's fine. Hoop is by the best. In order, that's fine. Bron, Kareem, Jordan, Magic, Russell, Wilt, Duncan,

Kobe. Why Russell overworked because of the chips? I mean, he owned him repeatedly. Yeah, but then you're playing into the LaBum argument that the chips matter. Well, they were head-to-head, and it's 11 to 2. Yeah, but that guy was having so much sex, he was probably tired. And then, so by that math, how many did I just name? Robert Or he's the second best player, though.

No. Yeah. If you're going to, no. Who else is up there randomly? up there that I have higher than others? Bill Rutton, I'm saying championships. Oh, I mean, Russell's teammates. Yeah, yeah.

Have a check. Yeah. And... Dude, it wasn't basketball, dude. You see what they're doing? They're like... Yeah, I understand, but what do you want them to do? I'm just saying, like... We can't, like, pretend like they didn't exist. Dante DiVincenzo just

murders everyone there. That was a good pull, actually. Dante Devenzo was a good one. Are you just saying it because all so he'd be allowed to play because he was white? Well, they let in Boston, they let Bill. But there's limitations on how many black guys you could have. Well, beyond that, it was a racist stadium.

Oh, yeah. Oh, horror. Kyrie also, they're still about that. It's a well-earned reputation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The green hand. But then, and then, so then after. Where's Kobe?

What number is Kobe? Fucking, asshole. Braun, Kareem. Michael, Magic, Russell, Wilt, Duncan, Kobe. So, Kobe's eight, birds, nine, and then 10, 11, 12 gets hard because it's Shaq, Akeem, Joker, and Steph are all fighting for that 10th spot. You don't like him. No, I just didn't believe in him.

I was just late to the party. I was wrong about him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all. Yeah. What is it, like, we, like, when we argue about sports people, just like someone not knowing the future. Yeah, it's like, you hate him. Like, who cares? Yeah, you're like, yeah, Nicola Yokic was a fat guy from the Balkans.

And then he ended up being incredible. One of the greatest players of all time. How are you supposed to know? But although you did, you, you, Caleb Williams. Yeah. You said before you ever played, you're like he will play in the Super Bowl this year. Yeah, I picked him. That's a, that's a whiff.

Did you feel like, did, now, was your blood coursing through your veins? In my defense, you're like, I have a new boy. So, let me ask you, let me ask you this. I'm firing in. So let me ask you this. So I predicted that Caleb Williams as a rookie would play in the Super Bowl. Is he good? He has nail polish, that's what I know.

Yeah, his mom's a nail tech. It's like a bonding thing. It's cool. Yeah, yeah. People are rude to him about it, though. No, yeah. People are. That apart, I totally agree.

Yeah, people think he's too effeminate. I don't think that fucking knows. Well, they do that to the Sixers guy, too. Jared. Oh, yeah, the TikTok. He does TikTokers. And that is where I draw the line. Stop it.

Well, that just seems childish. Yeah, why does he do that? His TikTok's just seemed very childish. But I mean, he's a kid, I guess. Your boy's brother, he loves TikTok also. Oh, I know. Yeah, yeah. You think that's why he gets crap?

Because it's not because, obviously, what's the argument? You're like, Mahomes is really good. What is the argument that you're getting back there? Oh, I mean, it's all bullshit. It's because he what? He talks like Kermit the Frog. No, I mean, it's just, he's one too much. And so, doesn't that make him good?

No, of course, but I'm saying because of that, he has a lot of people that don't like him. So you just talk to people that are like 35 IQ all day long about sports? No, I think the reason the TV show I do is good is because Brew and Wilds are both really sharp guys. But to your point earlier, like the barrier for entry of being like a smart sports TV guy is not very high.

I'm jealous. I mean, I'm not even a LeBron stand, but if I could have seen that, there was a vacancy there you would have jumped in on it's brilliant business that I tell you it and that yeah the I mean the things I'm most known for are being big supporters of the guy the two guys who are going to go down in the greatest in the history of their sports in the homes better than Brady yeah I do right why is that because he was great he was individually great

immediately and Tom wasn't and what he was he came in for Drew Blentzett right but Tom so Tom was considered those first You remember, everybody thought Peyton Manning's the better quarterback, but Tom Brady's clutch for like the first decade. And it wasn't really until Brady got Moss and they had those crazy stats. Mahomes won one league MVP his first year as a starter. So he was, and he's always, and he's won amazingly at a higher level than Brady through the limited time.

And he went to that party too with the, and they had chain smokers, DJ Call. Do you see that clip? No. So funny. I'll show you. He's like, yeah, we were, went to a hotel, we were a party, they had chain smokers, DJ Callow, yeah, dude. He's awesome. I mean, what, but hold on.

People like... They started off, they actually do a nice party for us at the hotel. The chain smokers came through, DJ Collet came through, because I had the goddamn spoon man from the sound darn videos coming to my show. No way. Oh, yeah. Talking six brills and all that teeth and torches. Chainsmuckers came through, DJ Callet. your boy dude tell them I'm nice I will tell them I'm nice um but uh well

text him Adam Friedland is nice and I'm kind of like I will tell you after the show but there I kind of have a involvement with the Kelsey thing oh so tell us now no they know the audience knows oh okay but yeah Taylor Swift and I have been through a lot we're really fine right now yeah yeah am I supposed to know should I have done my on this? No, it's boring. It's like some guy came on my podcast that was dating Taylor Swift and then... Oh. Yeah, because my friend said, uh, someone mentioned ice spice and he said, is that the Eskimo spice girl? Because of ice. Yeah. And then they said it was, it's insensitive to Eskimos or whatever. Really? Yeah, it's like kind of a, and then like... I miss a lot of the

internet that you see. No, I am not online at all. Dude, I miss that Rinaldo was at the White House yesterday. I don't believe that you're not online at all, bro. Dude, I'm here working on this brilliant show. You just said you've worked three days in a row and you're exhausted. You can't be working that fucking much. Three interviews in a row because I grind on them. Not for this one because this is light work. All right. All right. Let's do it. This is light work, dude. I can do this if I wanted to, but wait, let me let me, let me, uh, I want, I want to, I want to, let's do a segment, right? Lightning round, right? Lightning round. You're going to get like, let's say five seconds, I'll argue back.

Five seconds? Okay. All right, sure. And then, okay. Offensive linemen shouldn't be on TV as pundits. I don't care what Jeff Saturday thinks about something. If you don't get TDs or sacks, just like get off the screen. And also, like, we don't know what you look like.

That's your take? Yeah, they should have, I don't want to see them. You absolutely need them because, okay. Okay. NBA, they should go back to business suits, the coaches. I love that take. I agree. Yeah, they look like they're like they're like at a,

a Kia finance event. You're not NBA coaches. Yeah, NBA coaches. NBA coaches should wear suits. I 100% agree. Yeah. And baseball coaches wearing the uniforms. The uniforms is the dopest thing of all time.

You love it? Oh, it's hilarious. See, Don Zimmer's fat-ass? I think one day a year, the other sports should do the same thing. Suits? No. What? Wearing uniforms.

The coaches, like the NFL and NBA coaches. Yeah. One day a year. Wait, you just see them in a tank top? Yeah. I guess JJ would look fine. If David Stern were commissioner, Pablo would be dead. What do you think about that?

Okay? Agreed? That's a great take. Okay. I think if Stern were, go ahead. If AI went to NFL, he'd be potentially top five ever. Alan Iverson? Yeah.

Agreed. Dude, those highlights? I think he would have been, I also think he could have been Arsenal's striker. He was one of the best pure athletes I've ever seen. Yeah. And when he talks about Kobe, like those. Those guys put Kobe maybe one. Yeah, I know.

And I trust like what AI thinks about basketball, more than a guy that doesn't know how to play sports. Sorry, bro. Soccer is the best sport. The talent pool is wider, it's the whole world, right? The talent pool's wider and there's not a height barrier to entry the way there is in other sports. Yeah, and there is, just by far,

the atmosphere is, there's no comparison. The atmosphere is the best. There's no comparison. I agree with that. And it's just like there is also like, I guess the Packers are technically like this, but there's a notion of like belonging to a club and that your, the supporters, I pay Arsenal. I pay them what?

Do you pay? Yeah, of course. What do you mean? What do you pay? 38 pounds a year. For what? To be in my club. That's my club.

What do you just give them money? Yeah. What do you get back? I'm a member of Arsenal. And then they're the players of the first team, the manager is the coach, and then there's There's a board. There's four. It's kind of beautiful.

But then what's your role? My role is that I'm a member of Arsenal. So like, do you get to vote on stuff? I get to maybe try and get tickets, but it's... We get to watch preseason games. I literally watch everything. So you're just paying for Arsenal League Pass, buddy? No, I get that on Peacock.

Well, on Paramount. Right. So then you're just giving them 40 pounds a year? Whatever. You should just watch the better sport. I like it. It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing being a guy from Brooklyn saying that it's the best sport.

Listen, I like it. World Cup's on my network. World Cup is going to, we're going to brick it. The United States is going to... Oh, no, no. We got no shot. No, no. I don't care about the team. That's not... I never... Oh, you mean the as a host nation? Yeah, yeah. It's going to be...

Like, the ticket prices are insane. Yeah, but ticket prices are insane every World Cup. There's like my friend trying to get five tickets, and it was like $50,000. I was just trying to go to the five. No, he's trying to go to a random game in Miami. I don't think. I think you're friend lying to you. Group stage.

Mark would never lie. I'll put him on the phone after those. He's the finest man I know. Kobe Farrow game was the best sports game in the last 25 years, probably ever. Wardell, Stefan Curry, is the best point guard of all time. No. And anyone who doesn't have him in their top five is, I don't have, I have no respect for you. Top five player of all time?

Yes. Yes. Okay. I've never seen anyone shoot basketball. He's the best shooter of all time. But that's what basketball? basketball is. That's a big part of what basketball is. Have you ever seen anything remotely like that?

No, he's the best shooter of all time. He's not better than Magic Johnson. There's no goat debate for shooting. No. Okay. And what, what I, okay, I'll get sidetracked. I, the story of the 1980 finals is on paper, incredible, right? He's a rookie. Yeah. It's game six. Karim's hurt. Yeah. He's in L.A. trying to rehab. They're like, let's just throw it. He plays five positions. Yeah. And, uh, the, He wins MVP. Shouldn't have won MVP, but yeah. Have you watched Game 6?

Yeah. Come on. It's not. He's 20. No one's league. Magic, because he's a big guard. And Michael Cooper, he could be a 3-and-D. The rest of them aren't league.

Kareem is definitively. He wasn't playing that game. Oh, you're talking about literally just that game. It's just, it's just. But it's just, there's no comparison. The Arizona. But you're like, this is. like saying i'm with you dude i'm a bro-mo i'm a bromosexual like you let me ask you this yeah you're

a comedian yeah who's the fucking jackie gleason or whatever very good yeah he's a he was a rabbi if if his routines right now look pedestrian compared to the current community absolutely not so then i'm who's the guards there isn't a comparison of the arts no hold on who's the guy that you say any youngman take my wife please that is the best joke ever written oh he's Okay, no, no, because they say because of word economy, they say that is the, that is the, the best joke ever written. Yeah, but I guess my point. And it's true, too. Or like, I love Lucy. That type of stuff, like, doesn't hold up today, but we assume those people if they were born today would be the funniest people alive. It's a girl. What? It's a girl. She's being annoying. It's not funny that.

Can I ask you a question? When you said, hold on, I have a question from 10 minutes ago. Yeah, yeah. When you said they get cold, and then you apologize to my wife. Because I was being sexist, but it was joking. So I didn't know if you were being sexist or racist. That's what I was trying to figure out if your girlfriend was black and you were saying black people get cold. I would complain about these with the ball of chain because we're on a first guy date. You thought the same thing, right?

I was like, oh, are you also engaged with a black woman? What is that stereotype? What do you mean? Black people get cold? I didn't know if that's what you were saying. Women get cold is you've heard of a million. million times. And I did a joke like, I'm sorry, and then I'm like, they get cold. Yeah, that's why I couldn't figure out. Oh, because I was saying your wife is here,

and we're on a first date, and she's chaperoning us. Yeah. And how's it going? What do you think? Yeah, I'm destroying it, right? Okay. They should let more people that aren't jocks be the coach. Why? Because of, there's no overlap. Like, if you, you could learn the game cerebrally, You don't have to have played when you were 21 years old. I disagree. Why? Because I think... Do you know who Jose Marino was?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You didn't play. Right. I'm not saying that it's impossible to be done. I think the best, particularly in the NFL... You're sucking up to the jocks right now.

No, I'm not. You're sucking up to the jocks. We could do it. I think there are elements of it that we could do. But I think, like, to me, as coach of an NFL... team I correct yeah and I think and I think a huge part of being an NFL head coach is being able to like command the respect of the room and I think that's very difficult if you weren't a player you're absolutely right now I'm imagining like I'm

your couch you don't have to imagine it that much just look at the Dolph listen to me we're doing spider why banana I learned about it in the YouTube it's bullshit that the NFL has non guaranteed contracts and that these guys are are like literally destroying their brains and you could just cancel someone's deal. Like, why is Shohay getting like a billion dollars for a less popular sport? The, yeah, I mean, the union for the NFL has been bad for a long time. They're pro, like, the owners? The union just hasn't had any teeth.

It's really, like, actually, like, brutally sad. Especially the sacrifice they make physically. Now listen, they, they, they, anybody. can get a guaranteed contract they just guys the they don't have the leverage to negotiate when you hear about Bobby Bonilla are you like sick dude well yeah yeah fuck the fuck the man he's got to pay well listen I'm a union guy I think that you too the I yeah but the football union's been bad for a long time and the guys don't have enough juice to really who's the rep who's the main guy it was

DeMarie Smith forever who is it now I don't even know they they just got asked Pablo he just got them all in trouble he got the the Union Union he's a Pinkerton he's a Union Buster well I don't think he meant to be but kind of yeah he did because he tattled well again I ruined the Lakers playoff run did you have a take that you were wrong because of me take that I was wrong that was my fault I apologize because you think the T-wolves did you say we're gonna beat the yeah that's your fault I apologize you threw it all yeah yeah your tattling to pop my dad is pissed off at me yeah my dad my parents what are your parents do my mother

My dad was an architect, and then they were from Cape Town. They were Jews. And then my dad, the apartheid regime, had him on an enemies list. Really? And then he got called up to go to Angola, to the Civil War, and then they moved to LA. But then my dad, the reason I'm kind of into sports is my dad, like, got into sports, and it was the 80s in LA.

So it was Showtime, Dodgers, Fernando. And so my dad was at the Gibson game. Really? Yeah. That's sick. He learned American sports to have something to share with his kid, who's American. And so, like, we shared it. So, does your dad have a sick accent?

I don't think it's a very good one. Does I say any of you? Have you said the blood, the blood diamond? Yeah. He sounds nice. I love my dad. But he just, at this age, he's 74, he turns the TV off, like, like, 25 times a game. He cannot take the stress.

Real. And it could be, like, a regular season game, too. And his favorite team's Lakers? During the World Series Game 7, I'm backing on baseball. I know. This was an unbelievable playoff. Yeah, yeah. It's an unbelievable play.

During the World Series, I called like 40 times just to make sure he didn't die. Yeah. And he's like, I can't take this. It's not good for my health out. It's not good for my... Do you go to L.A. and go to games? Uh, no. We're going to L.A. on Tuesday for Thanksgiving and see our son.

Family should? Yeah. And I get to meet my granddaughter for the first time. Do you have pigs? after yeah congratulations about oh thank you very much uh you're a grandfather i'm a grandfather as of 12 days ago do you think that like the other guys that should have more respect for you in a yes 100% as unlike as oh where you ramps yeah oh g exactly yeah that's how i feel yeah um but uh but we're going to go to lakers mabs the day after

thanksgiving and the question is sad right well here's here's the question that i've not yet talk to my wife about yeah so my granddaughter will be at that point 20 days old yeah also though it would be super sick for her when she's 70 to it'd be like meeting someone's like I watched Babe Ruth to take her to the game so she 20 days old I understand yeah but she can say she was there she won't remember but she'll she'll be told you actually were who's gonna respect that who's seriously So it was like when you were a very small baby, you were in the same...

If your dad saw Babe Ruth play, that wouldn't be cool? If he was a baby? Yeah. No. He wouldn't remember it. You went to Kaufman? That was your first game? Kaufman.

Kaufman. Yeah. It was a shit stadium, though. It's still there. The fountain. The fountains are great. You guys should change your uniforms. Why?

Because they look too much like Dodgers. No, they're powder blue. The powder blue one. are better. They used to have like Dodgers uniforms. No, they had Royals uniforms. Maybe you guys copied us. No way.

You guys are put, what did it, tech nine? You guys have, we have like Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt from actually, that's a bad poll. Because where's Brad Pitt from? Just north of Kansas City. Exactly. Okay. The Brooklyn Nets shouldn't exist.

Agreed. I live 10, five minutes from the stadium walking. It's just, their fans aren't there. There are no fans. We had, the year they got Katie, Kyrie, and Hardin, we had season tickets. Yeah. And my wife, after that year, said, I would rather go to five Knicks games a year than all of the Nets games. I mean, it's just, I feel bad for them, because every game is a road game.

Yeah. No, I don't know where, so what city, is there a city on the East Coast they should go to? Newark, New Jersey. Or where they used to be? They put on for the fucking devils. I got a good one for you. The Los Angeles Clippers should not exist. They should go to Seattle.

Or Vegas. Totally agree. Vegas, I don't care. I don't from there. The Las Vegas Raiders should not exist, and nor should the A's. And Oakland should have something. I agree, Oakland should have something. Poor guys.

But the Raiders have moved so many times. L.A., Oakland, L.A., Oakland, Vegas. They're Oakland. Okay. Okay, the best, speaking of Oakland, the best sports movie is Moneyball. No. They save so much. No.

They do. It's incredible. What's yours? Titans. No, it's not remember the Titans. Well, they, he brought, Coach Bood, he brought those boys together. Objectively speaking, the best sports movie of all time is probably Rocky. Yeah, I guess so.

Raging Bulls pretty great. That's up there. The new space jam that Braun created. Incredible. Incredible. UTA family, Clutch Sports, Rich Paul, Mav Carter. I asked my ages if I could have a meeting with Rich Paul when I'm going to like. I could...

What am I going to talk to him about? I don't know. He'd like you. Rich is a great guy. Is he? Yeah, Rich is a great guy. Really? Yeah.

And Maverick's one of my dearest friends. Really? Yeah. So you're like, you're like in too deep. That's why you did that Tuesday take. That was ridiculous. Tuesday at noon, everyone should know that Tuesday is not a retirement. What the fucking, what was that?

Did they text you, though, like, good one, bro? Okay. All right, here's the last one. I'm just putting it out there. For a million and a half dollars, you could have your way with me. Literally, I don't care, freaky, un-Christian, whatever you want. You could use any hole you want. I just want to buy a house, really.

I got to imagine you do really well, bro. Oh, it's like, it's going to be good, I think. This year has been a reinvestment cycle. Reinvest, oh, reinvest in yourself. You're probably, yeah, in my own damn self. I'm drinking water. Yeah, I'm doing meditation. How's this going?

Really. You like me more than Broussard? I love Broussard, but I like you a lot. Thank you. I mean this your co-worker you shouldn't be saying that but kind of the he's he's great guy this is I never I never do stuff like this ever really why'd you do it the no that he needs to why she thinks I should do more stuff like this but that that's not why I'm doing it I'm doing it because I actually I like the

show yeah I think you do a good job we're gonna have a Richie Torres a moment after this okay okay last take and we're gonna cut this college basketball is bad but it's not as it's way better than girl I think women's college basketball is actually... Women's college basketball. I think women's college basketball... I'm talking about the league. I understand.

I think women's college basketball is more consistently watchable than men's college basketball at this point. Why? Because you're a horticier for them. No. Yeah. Is there sexier?

No, I just... I think that the men's college basketball doesn't work in its current state. And I think women's college... Shot clock is too long. I think college basketball, having people that stay for all... four years makes the product really good, and that never happens in men's ball.

Steph? Steph stayed for three, I think. Oh, he almost got there. Duncan stayed for four, but that's a long time ago. Nerd ass. That's classic Duncan, fundamentals. Yeah. Didn't he learn how to play basketball when he was like 17?

He was a swimmer, yeah. There was like a aquatic center was destroyed. Yeah, he's from the U.S. Virgin Islands. yeah yeah same bro basically not one time actually was that never mind was that were the did you are you in the logs or no did you ever meet Eppsian oh that's I didn't know what you were talking about no no no you know anyone this madam I don't think so can you imagine like some guys like you want a private plane to a private island and it's it's my crib and then you just want

walk in you like didn't expect that I think most of the people who went were aware what was going on I mean I of I don't of course but what if someone some guy was like this guy Jeff he's so rich and then yeah he was to take me to an island my goat Dershowitz is there you're a big Dershowitz fan no the worst guy ever okay I think I think we got it I mean like is there anything you you want to debate me on I can beat you well that's what I didn't talk about Kobe but it's fine I don't need to I don't need to stoop down like to the level of the the inefficient the math guys yeah no he's a great play I said

he's one of the ten greatest players of all time for some folks that's not enough because they want you know the myth rather than the facts but being one of the ten greatest in the history of something's really good like if at the end of this thing yeah they're like the Adam Friedland show that is one of the ten best digital interview shows ever that you wouldn't be like that's bullshit one B one B yes see Chelsea lately one a out of me there would be I don't know I hate the math stuff I say raised was it driven my race uh is it that it's a white pundit class talking about a black so that I do think there is an L there

is an unintentional element to that where I think that some of the some of the it has been a way for people who didn't especially NBA front offices wait for people who didn't play to get a seat at the table and an overwhelmingly black sport yeah it has made a lot more given a lot more white people seats at the table oh I didn't meet it that way I mean it like they could like criticize a black player with math no I mean it like that what black what you don't think are there any players that do the bat no what i'm saying is the front offices that are dominated by uh...

guys who didn't play analytics flow that's overwhelmingly white and the front offices that are dominated by ex players that that's overwhelmingly black in a front office context i don't mind it but on tv is just not entertaining okay yeah the people arguing about efficiency Zach is the one that's fun about it because he gets so excited i don't even know what the numbers mean so I yeah so Zach Zach is the best to ever do what he's doing because he's having fun and because he's smarter than all these guys yeah and so what

is folks who are not as smart and don't know as much basketball as Zach trying to do what Zach does is a disaster because now it's like wait you don't have all the information and you're boring that's not going to work yeah what would like do you think it's a divorce from what is great about sports though the math some of it yeah but you're math because you're like LeBron is the best because no I mean I I'm a little bit of both but I do think that is your favorite movie like the top box office no yeah you're like it's the best movie as the best I think there will be one to the greatest movie ever oh fire yeah great best wait so let's I want to finish this point because I think it's interesting like what

what do you identify like when you were a kid calling in say Marty Schottonheimer should be taken out back and fired yeah like yeah and fired yeah taken out back and old old yeller uh what like what what do we like about it and why do we get so mad at each other about it we've been getting along but when you're on tv you're pissed you get pit you get heated about shit and i don't think you're doing showbiz i think you're actually like yeah yeah no i like to i we much to the chagrin of my lovely wife who we've referenced a few times i like to argue and i really i have always you like that over there Maybe, I try not to, but it's sometimes hard.

The, I don't, I've always had, maybe it's a mental defect, but it's also probably of what's made me however good I am at what I do. I'm really convinced that if after I make my argument, you don't agree with me, you must not have understood my argument. Yeah, yeah. I mean, everyone feels that way, right? Well, I think some people have more humility in it than I do. But, I mean, what you're doing on TV,

is something that people do when they're hanging out, right? Yeah. We do. And it's like, why does it retain meaning, right, to people, right? Oh, I don't, that I don't know. I think it's because we attach narrative to it, right? Yeah. So like Kobe shooting 100 times and getting a 60 piece.

I think, by the way, it's the story of the career, right? Correct. I don't think there's a lot of criticism of Kobe's final game. I think that's pretty universally caught. made it special yeah right it's not debatable everyone had a great time watching it yeah but it made it special not because of anything other than we thought we'd never see him again it's like when tiger won the masters that is that that's that's that's one of my two or three favorite sports moments ever yeah you're winning them

masters because when we were kids he was like it was a a mythological figure right do you get s i kids i got all of it man i got i got i got grant hill was being s i i had i had I had, growing up, I had every, because ESPN, the magazine came out when we were teens. Yeah. And I would get it, read the whole thing, and pin it up on my wall. And I had all of them on my wall when I graduated high school. Do you remember the commercial? With KG and Stefan Marbury, tastefully done.

I took it serious. They said, all nude. Yeah, they said no bikinis. Yeah. They were like, with the punchline was all nude. All nude. And I was like, tastefully done. Yeah.

I mean, but they didn't. They actually didn't. I mean, Fox Sports would never do that. ESPN, they would never lie about putting real boobs in it. At that age, you're hunting for boobs. I was like, I got to get ESPN in the magazine. Because Stefan Marbury told me there's going to be sluts in it. And there was nothing. I think that, I mean, if we're really trying to react that commercial, I think he was implying that he was going to be nude in it. Oh, really? And you had to get it. It's like, you know, Bert Reynolds, he posed in Playgirl, and he thought it was because girls were reading it, and then he found out afterwards that it was gay guys, gay guys,

and then he got pissed off. He's like, what the hell? No, I don't believe it. Of course not. Dude, this has been a pleasure. Thank you. Wait, I should, wait. Thank you. No.