The Adam Friedland Show (Cumtown) - RZA Talks Wu-Tang, Creation, New Film

Episode Date: May 7, 2026

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You know what? I just tried the jalapeno cheddar checks the mix. Whoa. And welcome to the Adam Friedland show. I'm host Adam Friedland. You like it? I like that. Yeah, okay. My guest this week is the legendary rapper and producer, the Rizza. You may know him as a founding member of the Wu-Tang clan, but that's the side of him I only learned about quite recently. See, me and the Rizza have a show. interest. An obsession, some might say, and that is Kung Fu. But journey began at the Wu Dang Mountain Kung Fu Academy, where I was dropped off as an 11-year-old baby.

I studied for years under master Wang Shih Ming in the disciplines of sword, fist, and acupuncture. Pushing, actually... Phroning what he called a Tianfu, or a natural gift for the the art form. I was the best. I was the best and I knew it. One day during training master Shenji Jing called me into his office. He told me that as his most prodigious student, I would be sent to represent the Wu Dong in a battle against our natural rivals, Shao Lin. Of course, I accepted the opportunity to show my discipline's superiority, so I hopped on a bus to Shang-ju and I entered the temple and ready to display my mastery. I was soon introduced to my opponent

from the Shaolin temple, an American man named Robert. He was strong, intimidating with an eerie calm about him. We bowed. Quickly began our shanshu. I attempted a blow with my right hand. He perfectly blocked it. I tried for low leg kick. Robert jumped all over it, almost bored with my attempt. And after many more failed strikes, it was clear. He had had enough. He was done playing with his food.

So with one swift strike, he chopped my head off. And I died. I later found out that Robert was a celebrity known as the Rizza from a very Harold and Kumar 3D Christmas. Now, is that story? true? 100%. And let the moral be this. Don't try to steal the chicken just to end up losing the rice before they hatch. My guest's new film, one spoon of chocolate is in theaters everywhere, so go see it before it's gone.

Please enjoy my conversation with the Rizza. Bobby Digital. Bobby Digital, the scientist. Best friend. Best episode, best episode, best episode. I got one last question. Like, what is this for? There's nothing in it. There's nothing in it. Go to the store. Pick Coca-Cola something in it.

Water, then you go to vodka. You can tell it. They're just doing, right. Well, I think, I don't really, I don't be around too many people, well. I know. Nor should you. I can't measure. I'm at this stage in middle-aged adulthood where I,

I'm like, I really just, I want to go to work. Are you married or are you engaged? Engaged? How many, I mean, you want to talk about that on camera or no? We don't have to. I don't, no, I like to. No, I like to create an illusion that I. I'm like bad bunny.

I could be straight gay. I don't, no, no. No, yeah, no, I've mentioned it before. Yeah, we're engaged. We've been together five years. Oh, nice. She's awesome. I'm hit you a long moment.

I'm interviewing this guy. How long for the engagement? The engagement, like a year. Oh. Yeah. You were doing the right path, bro. Yeah, yeah. Because after, first of all, after two years of dating.

Yeah, yeah. Three years of dating. It's really just whenever they want, you know? Yeah, but then to say going to engagement, that means that you feeling shit is good, bro. I wanted to get, I wouldn't get married to her immediately, but I'm just one of those kind of guys. I was just waiting. It was embarrassing, so I didn't tell her, and I was waiting for her to be like, you have to get engaged to me. But, yeah.

I brick the engagement. You broke it? I bricked it. It was like, it was a disaster. I like went to Mexico City and then I, she was, we're visiting a friend of hers and I was like, can you make sure we're at like a party? Right. And when the countdown happens, I'll just give her the ring.

And then just like we literally just, have you seen that movie after hours, the Scorsese movie? No. It's the one where the guy goes out and he's just like, everything's a disaster after disaster. I didn't watch that one, but yeah. But like, yeah, we like, we left somewhere, we got to another place. It was complete, no one was there. I was like, and then I told her friend, I was like, can you find a party? We get to the party.

There's like, like, six people around a coffee table in the living room. I'm not getting engaged in front of these freaks. And they were like, yo, dude, I love the last episode. I'm like, I'm definitely not getting engaged. Right. Who was who fucking watched my last episode? We try to go, we try to go like six different places. And like by 3 a.m., we finally found.

this place it was like lit it was like looked great and she was cold you know how like women you know how they're always yeah so she's wearing my jacket and then the I get patted down I go in and I turn around I'm like oh shit and then she's getting patted down there like what's this box oh yeah they took it out but I was like being such a bitch all night it would have been a romantic thing if that happened but I was like all night she was like what why what why do you have such bad attitude to new year's I'm like I'm I'm having a great night. I just trying to find a fucking place to her propose. And then she was like, oh, well, it didn't work out tonight, maybe another time.

And it was like, it was so nice, but also I was like, might like, like, felt so emasculate. I was like, yeah, I'll try, get another. Ah, shaman, lemma. Then the next day, you said, hey, baby, let's do it. You said something about women always being cold. How many women we have here? Zero, yeah. Let's just say, let's tell it like it is.

That's what I'm sorry. Yeah. The way the light was hitting this dude right here, I thought we had it. No, because his head's here from this angle. This is the alpha pack leader of the crew this guy here, James. No, for this angle, whoa. Don't get it twisted. I was like, how many women we got, I thought, none.

I was like, wait a minute. None. Okay, I take these off. I don't need these. Yeah, yeah. But in prison, you'd be the bell of the ball, James, so forget that. Well, these what I was asking is that, is that can you a girl, and anybody can answer this?

Yeah. Can they fucking stand a hot a shower than you? They shower so hot. Exactly. What's the science of that, bro? Women love a hot shower. What the fuck is that? Yeah, and it's, it's insane.

And burn your whole shit. It is, it is like, it is. So you're down with that. It is female. It is female. Yeah, okay, all right. Yeah, that's right. Tell it like it is, and there's no one here that could stop us.

And shit. All right. And you'll see how they like that. Just want to make sure I wasn't alone in that shit. Oh my God, don't get me started, brother. And you know how they tell the most, the best stories that are really funny and interesting? You know how they tell their girls those stories that they just told you and you're like, what the fuck is this? And then their girls like, oh, what?

And you're like, what are you, what are you hearing? What are you hearing? Like, what's the punchline? And then they tell a gay guy, and the gay guy's doing that, but I know the gay guy doesn't think it's a good story. The gay guy is, he's a double agent. He should tell her it's a bad story.

Well, you know what, though? I got to speak up with my wife a little bit. She's a, we, we. No, no, bro. I didn't realize how funny she was, bro. They are funny, though. Bro, she, she was hit me. She's been stabbing me with jokes for 10 years I didn't get.

Uh-huh. But she was hit me with him. I, you know. Like what style? Whoa, like, I want to come up. All right? And if it comes up, I'll ask my wife shit. My friend has a list of just things that his wife says so he doesn't snap.

Yeah, she's good, bro. She hasn't even if a trillion is three million. How funny is that? And then she said who won the war when he was talking about World War II? She's like, who won? What are they doing? That's funny, though. And don't get me started.

They use Apple Maps. It's insane the way they just... Apple Maps. Yeah. Because it's on the phone. You're like, get Google. You're going to fucking drive off a cliff. Apple Maps never works.

It's psycho. I don't understand how they ever figured out the maps. You use Google Maps like a man. Or Waze like a Zionist Mossad. Would you believe I don't drive, bro? You don't drive at all. I've drove since 2011, bro. Really?

Do you have a driver? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Somebody else's stress, you know what I mean? Do you have a window that you like, like, do you? No, no, no. I don't want to talk to you.

You have that? I mean, depending on what kind of car. But I got an escalate. He drives an escalate, or whatever. But I don't drive. I just gave up, bro. You're done with it. I'm a terrible driver, too.

You should give up, bro. Yeah, yeah. And also, my girlfriend's way better than me, and it is emasculating, too. Yeah, I will, I know how I'm going to die one day, actually. Because I do the sneezing thing, where I can't sneeze once. sneeze like at least three times in a row. Okay.

And I'm going to be on a freeway and just, yeah. Well, you get a lot of blessings then. No, no. I mean, if you sneeze, bless you. Bless you. Not once. I want of the least respected. So you have a lot of nicknames.

I only have one. You're like, you have like, you know, the scientist, Bobby Digital. Hey. Robert Fitzgerald. Diggs. Yeah. You're also, yeah, you're named after RFK. Yeah.

No, no, no. Wait. No. John Fitzgerald. John and Robert together. Your parents loved them. Yeah, they were those kind of baby boomers. Yeah.

They were like, it was Camelot. It was phenomenal. Yeah. It was, well, somebody cared. Yeah. It felt like somebody cared in those days, because it was, you know, it's like nobody cared. You ever meet the son? No, I never met.

No. He's got some opinions. Yeah, well, to the guy with the, uh... Robert Jr. He got a deep voice. His voice is deep, bro. What the fuck happened to his voice? No, he's got a voice like, like, like, something stuck in it.

Yeah, what happened? What's that? Oh. Just kidding. Well, he deserves it for all the, you know, you know what Mr. Trump. Yeah, that's what he gets. Yeah, he has come stuck in his throat. That's my stuff.

Oh, shit. No, I'm, yeah, there's a very funny video of him because he's, like, clearly on, like, roids. Try to do push-ups, and he can, like, only do three. Get out of here. Yeah, he has muscles, but he's weak. Yeah, it's hilarious. That's three.

Not us. No, no, I could do more than three. I got a bad shoulder, and I could do. Definitely more than three. Okay, let's get to you. Let's get to the interview, even though you're my best friend. I thought this was an interview. No, no, I have, I actually have, you gotta make an intro.

I have topics. Okay. Well, we were rolling on that? We were rolling on all that. I just want to chill with you the rest of my life, and I knew that I would be this way. When I've thought about this, this has gone exactly how I thought it would go.

You're like, Adam, you're the second greatest producer of all time. You think you get your flowers, actually? In terms of like all that. In the industry itself? Producer specifically. I don't know. I think this. I mean, I see it a lot.

You know what I'm always in somebody's top five or whatever, whatever. But it's like nobody validates me. Yeah. You know what I mean? I would say it's Phil Spector than you. Hey. Yeah.

Phil was good. He was pretty good. It's it. But I think that No. No. No. little well, nobody don't take me, can't validate me or invalidate me, bro.

You don't, I don't really care what any of the things are this point. That's no sense. It's nice being middle-aged. Yeah, right? You don't get, well, fuck. I don't have to be cool anymore. I stink. I stink.

And if you're watching this shame on you, you're a loser. We're going to upgrade you, though. We're going to upgrade you. Did you have like a lineage? Because I feel like when, like, we should get to the movie because I know you're promoting it. Then what, do your thing, bro. I have, like, a million questions that I've had my entire life. But, like...

Let me start this. Let me, look, ladies gentlemen, it's my first time here. May 1st, 2026. But I will say, hold on, hold on. I'm interrupting this guy. He's going to get me back for this. But yo, bro, I'm just here to have fun with you and spend some time with you, bro. Me too.

That's all I want to do also. I was just trying to show. Okay. That's it, bro. Okay. I should do a proper introduction. Ladies and gentlemen, he doesn't need one. It's Thriza. His new film,

What's the name of your new film? One Spoon of Chocolate. It is in theaters May 1st. Everyone goes see it. It is inspired by your own life. It's your story. It's inspired by a lot of shit, bro. It's the inflection point kind of of everything for me.

Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of things going on in there. It's inspired by true events. And I think now that we're promoting my film, first we're just chilling this shit. But now that we promote my film, I would say that. Because the money men here, all they care about it is the dollars. They're looking at me.

They're like, promote the film. Why? You paid people? good money for this. Well, all you care about is your brands and your commercial. Yeah. But I will say, I will say that it's definitely a film that will hit every emotion. Yeah, I mean, like you're gonna get, you're gonna feel comfortable, uncomfortable, happy, sad, fulfilled, and you still may walk away with some questions. And that's what cinema should do. Cinema should make you be like, yo, who, that was good. You know what I'm

there's something about you that's like, movies and music is, it's kind of one thing. I mean, like, the first time you listen to the 36 Chambers or like any of the, you know, the albums that you produce for the solo albums that you produce for them, it's all like just sick. Some of this, I mean, like, we listen to Liquid Swords. That's about two minutes of a sample. That's a long one up top. Yeah, it's a movie. But like you are, do you view music as cinema in a way? Like, are you experiencing an album? Like, it's a kind of like a...

Yeah, that was my ambition was to make. albums that was like audio movies. I'm making movie or I'm making music back when you, there's no DVDs, well. That was like one of the questions I had is like, how did you see so much

like specifically black exploitation and kung fu movies? Like, how were you exposed, I guess, growing up to like... Oh, VHS was everything. Yeah. I was, I actually had a... I actually bought, I try to start my own video store in Ohio.

And so I bought all the fucking movies from this video store in Staten Island. So my collection is ridiculous on VHS, to my thousands of VHS movies. And I watched shit. You know what I mean? I was digging through movies like people who dig through crates or records.

Yeah, you know what I mean? And so, and my goal was so New Yorkers, we would leave New York and drive to Virginia, D.C. or Virginia. Yeah. This was when the street pharmaceutical business was part of the trade.

Right? Viagra, Seattle. Yeah, before that. Yeah, yeah, before that, okay. This shit probably shrink your dick, all right? Oh, yeah. That's the worst experience in the world, which is like, yeah, this shit probably was shrinking people's.

Cut that, please, please cut that. Wait, this is, a Greek curse on this shit, well? Yeah, oh, fuck, yeah. Okay, I'll make sure. But anyway, driving down to, you, you know, When you drive through the, when you drive, I always wanted somebody, you know, with a big fucking fucking binginge to put my cassette in and fucking go on a journey while he's driving. That was like my ambition to like have an audio movie.

And so my music was always made to be listening from beginning to end. I wasn't really thinking about singles and hit records. I was thinking about cinematic experiences without knowing the world was called cinematic. And then eventually, of course, I realized that all of the along I am a film director but the toys I had was a sampler a turntable or a four-track machine or a beat machine now of course I've been blessed and I got motherfucking you know I mean the whole set yeah you know I mean you've scored films of course yeah that taught me a lot yeah yeah you you also wait did you see that clip of him that one time when he was on 106 in

part tariff I see it oh you so you got I got a boy it's a he he he's he's he's He's being very, he has a lot of stank on the way he's talking. He's putting a lot of stank. He's like, yeah. What do? When he's on BET where he's like, yeah. But he's talking like 70s black guy, which matches, I guess, his movies. But the code switching is one of the funniest video, yeah.

I got to see that. See, y'all, what the, what up, slick? Give me little touch, slick. He's talking like a pimp. Oh, shit. Well, that goes, you know what, all your sons. I know, he's a friend, he's a friend of... No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Definitely, you know, I call him the godfather in my film world, right? But all, no, this goes to anybody. Everybody's slang depends on your fucking age, bro. True. If you meet a dude in the 60s from 1965 to 75, he's going, what up, Jive, Turkey? You're like, what the fuck is that?

It's like listening to a Lenny Bruce comedy album, where he's like, this cat over here. Yeah, this cat. Yeah, what the fuck is this? Is this funny to people? Yeah. But the funniest thing worse is that the shit come back around, yo. Now I'm like, yo, bro.

Yo, bro. Do you hear that lot now from these kids? Were you from the bro generation? No, the bro was before me. Oh, bro was seven. It came before me. When did bro first pop off? I'm from the son.

Yo, what up, son? Son. That's me. What up, done? That's New York, though. But that's me. It's so funny how I was just like listening. I was listening to the infamous

and just copying the way they're talking. As a Jewish boy, literally when I moved to New York, when you move from, I got to know. I lived in D.C. before that, and then I grew up in Vegas, pretty much. That's a weird place to grow up. I mean, the ping pong is definitely... I went to college in D.C. and then I started comedy, and then I went to New York. Okay, okay, okay.

But, like, I was literally on the G-Train listening to The Infamous, and I was like, I was like, like, Emily in Paris, but I was like... But I was like, they're rhaps. about the G train in his song. Right. And if anyone knew what was going through my mind on the train, they'd be like, this is the lamest guy of all time.

Yeah. But son and thun is, and for me also, you know, from New York, ever since we was 11, we was calling each other, yo, yo, what up, God, peace God. Yeah. Yeah. That's respect. That's nice. Yeah, so it was always,

so all that bro, job, turkey shit, none of that shit made it to me. Was Staten Island considered, like, You were like a country bumpkin at the time. Nah. Was there, you guys were the first kind of act. Yeah, I mean, people, now, New York did look at standing out as a forgotten burrow.

Yeah, they were like, what the hell was, you know, are these... Until they came over. These waps. Oh, these fucking daigos over here, I think. A lot of Italian brothers over there. I'm sorry to their friends of the show, the Italian, yeah. But until they came over there, because you could come to Staten Island

with all that other sucker shit. Yeah, yeah. And don't go home. What was it like growing up around those guys? Which guys? You know, the Eytralians. Oh, those are, those are my peoples, y'all. I mean, the last, yo, I'm in school.

I'm in the eighth grade. And my classmate last name is Costellano. Okay? Yeah. So that says, all good. I'm like, I spend the night. You know what I mean? Because he had a Tarry.

Oh, yeah, you know, Atari? You know what I mean? So. You remember hanging out with a rich kid who sucked, but he had all the gaming systems? Yeah. Yeah, that sucked. Yeah, yeah.

He just had all the games. And you have a bar with a cartridge and never take it back? Of course. Tell his dad to buy him another one. That's what you get for being fucking 1%. No, but wait, so you were born in Brooklyn. You grew up in Staten Island and in the South and Midwest and all over. By the time I was 21, I lived in 20 locations.

Not by choice. It just happened to be that way for me. I think what's clear, like, from the early, records is like you were using like soul a lot of soul samples which is kind of like I think do you feel like you were one of the first producers kind of because that's defined hip hop production i mean Kanye's first three albums don't happen i think if i don't put that like yeah yeah i think i definitely help bring that into it the emotion of a soul record i actually realized that that fucking a minor chord uh-huh was everything breaks your heart yeah and then you'll see like even though lisa kees

first came out, it's an A minor. Yeah. That scale, those chords, I think it was something about them that really attracted me sonically. I didn't even know what the fuck it was, but I didn't even know what a C chord was when I made a platinum album and you go, hey, hit the C note. I'm like, hold on, bro. It just made sense.

I might dig in my pocket trying to prank it. Think a C note is a $100 bill. You know what I mean? But. And just for the record, speaking of A minor, no. No one has ever come forward and said that they were molested by Drake. It's a very cruel, it's a cruel anti-Semitic... It was clearly a hit job.

He was one of the first artists to sign the Palestine letter and DJ Callan hasn't done it yet, actually, despite being the most famous Palestinian... Don't get me started, but... How did... I just want to put that out there... I like this guy, he likes it. This guy likes it. I just want to put that out there.

Yeah, A minor is just a chord, right? Well, it is just a chord, and it's at the Grammys, the Super Bowl, and the Oscars? At the Oscars, what does the fucking song have to do with movies? Sorry, don't get me started. It is one of the most anti-Semitic things I've ever seen. Can you wait to May 15th? Are you excited about May 15th? I'm so excited.

Okay, make sure. Okay, I know, do you know the product? Do you know my friend, my friend, I would assume he will be as good of friends as us. Do you know Aubrey Drake, Graham? Do you say, you call them Arby? You're stupid. Aubrey.

You know what? We know each other from the meetings. I met him. I met him. I respect them. Yeah. Like sometimes I'm an artist who I know you, right? And I can't say I know him.

But you have his phone number maybe? No. I have his pop's phone number and shit. You have, whoa, you do. Because his dad, his dad's brother was in Slime the Family Stone, is that correct? Nah, I don't know. I don't know the history.

I think his father was a music. Dennis Graham, yeah, they were from Memphis. Yeah, I think his uncle was in- Yeah, I think they've been in music their whole life. Yeah. But I know, if you'd have asked me this a few years ago, you know, so and so I go, yeah, I know him. But then I'm saying myself like, yo, you don't really know.

Like, I said, even we met today, You know Rizzo? Yeah, I know. Well, we hung out, my dude. I wouldn't say that. But you can't say I know this motherfucker. I wouldn't say I'd be humble about it. Yeah, I met this motherfucker.

I would say I met, but in my head, I know, we know each other well. So, so, but, but, but, but, but I'm a fan of Drake's music. I met him, he's a cool motherfucker. When did you make it, when the kid, these, seeing these, uh, knuckleheads? The battles? Yeah, knuckleheads. Listen, bro, that's part, I'm from New York, yeah? Yeah.

That's how hip hop tape started circulating. It was like, yo, you heard this tape of Busy B and Kumo D? Yeah. You're like, what? Put it in? And they fucking talking shit about each other. They're battling, you know what I'm right? So hip hop has been that, you know what I mean?

But it's part of it. Hip hop is a sport. Don't get it twisted. Who did you guys have problems with early on? Nobody. Nobody. Because you do karate and beat them up. They were probably afraid of the karate.

Well, we had our battles before we became famous. We used to get on the train and look for motherfuckers. Really? Seriously. Really? Yo, bro, even as a DJ, I'll give you one little egotistical one. You know, as a DJ, bro, from Staten Island. Uh-huh.

I got on the ferry to the fucking train to go away to the Bronx to a project building that I never been to to battle a motherfucker at a house party. That's hip-hop. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Beat this motherfucker. Then go back.

You're just doing it. That's the beat. him and head back home you get no money yeah you ain't get nothing all you know is that you beat that motherfucker do you get his girlfriend or something or you'll get nothing you don't get anything nothing i did the same no i did it no dinner dinner two weeks later they're like yo they got this dj in lower east said he could get you it's always some guy that know some guy what an idiot right it's like yo i'm like yeah i be there saturday you go there turn tables out block party you ain't you don't even belong there bro you know i mean you're a fish out of water and all we

but hip hop is so big. And then you're battling, you beat the guy. Now guns come out, motherfuckers shooting, blah, blah, blah, blah. You laughing. You're laughing at the guns? Yeah, you're laughing. Really? Because it's just like, yo, I can burn all y'all motherfuckers.

I'm the best. And your hands are lethal weapons probably from all those movies you've been watching. But that's hip hop. Yeah. Like, that's the era of hip hop when it was like, it was such a passion to be great, such a passion to be number one. So when it started becoming music and making songs

and all that, that sport, did travel over. Now, it dwindled. And it led to damages in the 90s, of course. You know, we're thinking about Park and Begg, you know what I mean? I think it ended admirable with Jay and Nas. You know what I mean? They actually ended up working together. That one got very mean. Yeah, but they ended up working. And then we get to Drake and Kendrick. It was like, well, it hasn't been nothing really in a while. And then this becomes not just fucking hip hop, bro. This became world news.

Like, you could be watching fucking, uh, the view. Yeah. And the girls are, and the ladies at the table talking about Drake and Kendrick. Like, hold on, boy. If he came like a boxing shit. Yeah. I'll pass you the mic and say. Anyway.

Joy, Bayhart's story. Yeah. Well, I thought in the third round, family, family's bad is. He switched up the flow four times. The way that fat, the way fat, the way fat, 40-year-old white guys with beards were taking... That's not what I said. They were like, well, if you analyze, you know, the cadence of the flow in the fourth

round. I'm going to give this one. Shut up. Shut up. I got to ask you the question, bro. Why is the MPC here on the floor? The MPC 1000. All right.

I was smoking a Corona Dutchmaster blood in college with Ari CERT over there. And we were one time, and we were listening to. Arthur's scene by Christopher Cross, and we're like, someone should chop this into a, you know, you know the song? When you get lost between the moon and New York City. Bro, you know what's crazy. You said Christopher Cross.

I just played Christopher Cross. I just did a rock show. Really? Super Sirius X-M. Really? Yeah, they say, I'm going to be the guest DJ. No, he wasn't there. Do you know what happened to him?

They thought he was going to be up next. Oh, yeah. One album. But it was before there was like, then his face What happened? He gained weight or some shit? No, they said he wasn't. People saw that he wasn't handsome.

No, I don't want to shit on the guy. He made incredible music. I seen this documentary, well. Sailing, sailing away. Yeah, you can't knock that kid. Dude, I love that album. The Flamingo, the green, whatever, sailing? Yeah. Yeah. On the way to Mexico, right? Yeah, he's on the way to fucking Mexico.

You was, you made, you, you proposed in Mexico. I proposed, yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I make sense. Yeah, yeah. I see the Christopher Cross connection, you know, it's all coming. I did it for, I did it for, I, that's where I got, I'm on the red. Wait, so like, okay. So, Ari put these samples on his NBC. I don't know, I mean, uh, we loaded it and I, I, I mean, it's kind of offensive.

I mean, it's like I'm saying like, I'm going to make George Martin make a new Beatles song for me. What's that? What's that? You can do-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d. He knew, he knew already. Best to loop. How did we- That's exactly. Grabbing tits.

Wait, that was literally what we're saying. If you loop the best that you can do, I mean, it's kind of a judgment. You, somebody should do that. Yo, bro, do it. Don't not do it. Can you, can you, do it? No, no, not me.

Please. Because the samples cost more when I do it. We'll just do for, as an exercise. Are we going to get demonetized? I don't give a fuck. Wait. No, bro, folks, you ain't going to, listen. They're going to edit all this shit out your shit, bro.

No, who's they? The rabbis? No, they're not going to take anything from me. I'm on to them. I'm on to them. I saw what you did to Michael. They're not going to do it to me. You're going to play his content.

It's gonna be like this content has no fucking audio. Just, just, but if you were, just to, maybe we'll edit it up, but if you were. I'm gonna do it another day and shit. What about it? Just maybe, maybe it's a great moment in talk show history right here. It's obviously, yeah, I, listen, I will say this.

It's a good shot, bro. I think you gotta. Oh. That tempo, let me see, hold on. And then you maybe pitch it up like a little. Yeah, pitch it up. And you got to take off, you got to pitch your velocities at full level.

Just, you know, Exactly, that's what I would say. You hit that button right there you go. It's just a button, you know what I mean? And then you get it. And then you don't, because look, if it's off, it's this. Like that, but if you hit it here, every time you hit it, you know what I mean?

The best moment in life. If they take it off, then put it on one shot, you got it on, you got it on pulse and shit, bro. Oh, you can change it in the program window. I know what you can do. Yeah, yeah. I'm telling you, I'm telling you that you're posting that shit, if you wanted me to fuck around, he puts a half this shit ready to go.

Ari, I thought you would have the program, window for him. I don't know why we wanted it. It changed it. This is the best day of my life. All right, so he got it on velocity. Yeah, yeah. Back to another question, bro.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got them in Texas doing Santa. Austin? Yeah, Austin. See? We was in, yo, bro. I only own one pair of cowboy boots. Yeah.

And I got him for fucking Austin, Texas. Wait, you get them at, Lou Casey? That's the motherfucker. That's where I got these two. But I found out that that's where a Dallas businessman gets them and not the real cowboys. Well, we don't got horses, you know? Yeah, we don't got horses.

We don't got horses. We got, we're just passing through. We're just fucking passing through, of course, dude. We're just two guys living life. Yeah, passing through. Not like the money guys over here. We're just living. We're the artists.

Yeah, exactly. Well, let's, one thing that was, I said to you before the show that was like, I had no idea, the inflection point that we were kind of referencing before it was like you caught a charge in 1993. Yep. With the charge was in 91. I got acquitted in 92. And Wooten comes in 93. How do you do so, like how is 36 Chambers

is the first, how is it so perfect immediately? I think, thank you for saying that for saying it's perfect. But I think that what happened is that it's years of us trying. So in my hood, there's tapes that's floating around. Even some of the lyrics on 36 Chambers is referencing songs you never heard. But only people heard it was the people in our project. Yeah. So we had, so by the time you meet Wu-Tang, right, this is used, I use myself as an example.

You meet me, I'm 21, 22 years old, but I've been writing lyrics since I was nine years old. So now you don't met a guy who's been doing this shit 10 to 12 years. Right. That's done ran through New York City and- You're a vet? Yeah. But even though I'm a kid. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

So then the Juzza doing it even longer and stronger. So that's why I come in his verses on that first album, he probably got some of the best verses. on the first album because he was the best of us. You know what I'm saying? And then you see Meph is a couple of years younger, ghosts a couple of years younger, but by the time you get the Cuban links, like, oh, shit.

Now they're getting their 10, 12, 13 year mark. You know what I mean? So 36 Chambers is capturing these dudes, right, approaching mastery level. Some of us were at mastery level. Some of us were advanced regardless. You know what I mean? Like Nodds, I call them an advanced MC.

He was 19, right, when he made... Yeah, but he was 16 when he was already considered like, yo, who the fuck is this? In Queens, yeah. Yeah. So it's that kind of energy. So, but going back to what you were saying as far as the story and the point, and this is just, you can make a joke out of it, but...

I'm not going to. Yes, you is. I refuse. Okay. So, from the time that I stopped being a negative motherfucker, yeah. You know what I mean? Which was April 22nd.

It wasn't even a year later. bro that I was able to be platinum yeah and but before that every time I try to do something which was mostly negative shit was failing yeah and so I always tell young people that yo positive is not an easy road like like you look at methamair with muscles that didn't come overnight bro you got to go to gym bro go work out you know I mean work your material out bro and don't be deterred because something that could easily tell you to turn left and fuck up all shit that you the true your true calling and for me art was my true calling even though I was

trying to be everything else but the artists yeah it's just like you have to catch else probably to get better yeah or you got to catch no you well let me see this you got to fuck up a bunch of times before like you have to work your ass off you got to work your ass off you don't got to fuck up I tell people that like you don't got to go through hell I went through hell I've been through hell yeah I'm yeah me too well all right we've been through hell now I wouldn't say I have anybody else who got to go through hell. I'm saying, whatever hell it is. Yeah, yeah. Right? When you have your son, you ain't going to want him to go through your

hell. His hell got to be dead. If you're going through your hell, then you didn't do your job. God forbid, yeah. Yeah. It's just the agony of being alive. You feel me, though? I feel you? I feel you 100%. Yeah, so my son didn't go through my hell. I know that for a fact. Sure. I said he's most laid-back non-salant. He wakes up at one in the afternoon. You got a good? Do you think they were like rich kids, you know? your kids right you know what because you're like you grew up in the projects right right yeah like you guys are fucking pussy's like no I wouldn't say well I wouldn't say

that I won't call on that right yeah because I didn't it's just like come on you you're rich boys you don't know they're rich and hard they're rich and heart they got you in they got rich and hard but they didn't have to be yo I met a dude bro and I talk about the dude a lot but hey and I know he respects me to talk about him he's a serious dude You know what I mean? Did his time, did his crime, did his time. Mike Tyson? No, this dude is deep.

I'm going to say his name. But he told me that while he was in jail, he read one of my articles that came out, whatever, in one of these magazines where I was like, yo, at the end of the day, I'm a fucking nerd, bro. Right? You give me some electronic shit. Soon I saw this shit, I was like,

yo, ready to pick it up. Give me a comic book. Right, so this dude, he was in jail with another dude who was in there for murder. Yeah. And he probably shot about, multiple people. This guy is like, it's a shoot motherfuckers, right? Yeah, yeah. Jesus.

But at the end of the day, when they were talking to each other, they, it's like, yo, at the end of the day, this dude could fix computers, this dude was a nerd. They're both nerds. Exactly. Yeah. They're gangsters now. They're twisted, but they nerds. The gangster is part of the, uh, the environment made you have to be that.

Yeah. circumstances made you have to be that. You know what I mean? It's almost like, yo, bro, I'm a vegan. Right. But, pause. If I got a fucking...

I'm sorry. He's stupid. Why did I say that? Why don't know? Yeah, I don't know why I said that. That's okay. I'm a vegan, though, but check this out. Where do I get the confidence?

It should get tough, bro. I'm eating meat, kid. Yeah, sure. Sure, sure, sure. But this guy's stupid. Wow, it's the best day of your life. Hold on, no, no, no. Yo, when you, when niggas say pause, right?

It's so funny. Somebody else could be like, yo, fuck it, nigga, rewind. It's the middle. There was one, there was one, I just, I like this guy. Do you know every, do you know every, do you know every affiliate's name? Oh, that's a joke. You can't possibly know. I don't think I could do that.

But let's fuck around. Let's see what you got. Wait, by the way. at our Jewish summer camp, a Wu-Tang affiliate came and performed, like, there were like, Oh, 12-year-old, Remedy. Remedy. Remedy came? He did never again for us.

Holy shit. Yeah, and there was like, like, Rebecca Goldstein, and we were, like, grinding. It's like, for him as a gig, for him as a gig, yeah, to a, to a Holocaust song. Also, you had a guy named War Cloud, aka the Holocaust. Yeah, his name was Holocaust. Holocaust, yeah. Then I was like, yo, you might want to shift that. Then he went war.

Then he went war. Holocaust, yeah. And Holocaust died last year. He died, yeah. Yeah. You know who knows Holocaust lyric? verbatim. Who's someone?

Seth Rogan's friends with Holocaust? No, he's not friends with Holocaust. But he, yo, he knew that when I first met him, he dropped that 16 like it wasn't shit. Oh, I mean, it's a thing that we would know if you had a guy named Holocaust. Holocaust. The cause died last year after October 7th and everything? I can't believe cut me, cut me. You have a guy named Dexter Wiggles.

Oh, you know Dexter Wiggles? I'm reading the funniest names that I found. I'm like, oh, like, this. How do you know Dexter Wiggles, well? Because I read a list of all the 3,000 Wu-Tang affiliate. How do you even join? How do you- How do you-you- What's the-the-old? Give me some more names first.

Cheesy Rat. Then that guy didn't make it, bro. I don't know him. Now, now you're going into the unknown charted shit. Rapmaster 1, that's a terrible name. You should have- I don't know that one either. He didn't make it.

Polite? Yeah, polite made it. Polite is, that's nice. Yeah, polite, yeah. Polite is, he's a, that's my man. Yeah. Give me another one. I say, please, and thank you.

And excuse me. Spanky Splash. Wait, hold on, hold on. Shorty shit stain. There's a shorty shit stain. He's not having no serious. You know what? No, shorty, yo, yo.

Hold on, listen, Shorty Shitstein. No, I would never know. I'm a big, I'm a big, that's your cousin? Yeah. I'm a big fan. Yeah. It's just a funny name. Shorty shit stain.

Shorty shit stain, yo. What is it? What is he? Is he even poop his pants or something? I am kind of short and shit. Your mind is the- Give me another one. The coward.

Wait, this guy. No, who's the cow? That's not in it, bro. I heard crazy allegations against this one guy. Go. Like these parties where there were like abuses, there's a guy named T. Diddy. No, no, no, Joe.

Did you see the trial? No, I mean, he was not any. How did you have this monster in your, it's one of them? He's stupid, yo. Tiddy? What? He's an impersonator, bro. But that's a real guy?

No. No. No. Someone just put T. Diddy on the list? Yeah, give me another one. Asiatic. That's funny. No, Asiatic, bro.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. That's too on the nose for like a woozang affiliate. Okay, what's a guy? Uh, stomach with a K. Don't know him. Mike Boston. And it's not like microphone with a C.

It's M-I-K-E Boston. You know what? I don't know him. It's the first time I heard that motherfucker name, though, but I don't know him. Got what you got? Belichick brought a lot of rings to the city. Who? No, no, I'm just thinking of Mike Boston going into sports radio.

There's a guy named D-L. Yeah, on the D-L. Give me another one. I heard some things about D.L. And the Holocaust. With it. Legion of Skanks. Nope.

Zaccamiko. No, you're getting some shit now, bro. Cigar? Nope. Cigar is one. It's on the list. I don't know who been the morning. Cheesy rat.

I told you, bro. No cheesy rat, well. I think it is. He was in the Chuck E Cheese band, was he? Oh! Stupid. Yeah, yeah. The animatron.

I remember that shit. Remember that shit? That was so sick. Well, first of all, every time you take your kids there, they come back home sick. Yeah. Well, there's disgusting diarrhea food. What the fuck? Black as Billy de Kidd.

He's cool? I don't know black ass Billy the kid. Well, there's a cousin Billy. Yeah, you got that on there? No, I mean, there's more on the little... He got some shit, but... Give me some good ones, bro. I mean, good ones.

Shorty shit says one of the best... One of the best I've ever heard. I've ever heard. Wait, okay, let's go back to the list, okay? The Holocaust is so funny. Insane. Let me say you're talking about Holocaust real quick, right? Yeah, alright, Pete.

I'm sorry for your loss. Yeah, no, rest in peace to Holocaust. To Holocaust. But yo, bro, I ain't seen him for years at one point, right? And then I saw him. He came to the studio. I was working on Afro Samoa. I said, you know, I'm gonna have him come to a song.

He showed up to the studio. He had a long coat on, bro. and he had a fucking duck in his pocket. Why? I don't know, bro. He pulled out a duck and start petting this motherfucker, bro. I'm like, what the fuck? What's the science?

What drug is that? What the fuck is a pet... Wait. How do you have a fucking pet duck in your pocket, bro? Like, like, how do I, wait, like, do you guys have like a barbecue or something to get together? It's like a family reunion? This is no.

Do you have a three-legged race? or like a sack race of all the Wu-Teg affiliates? Not yet, well. How do Ari and I become, we gotta chop this beat and send it to him. Yeah, they chop this stuff, so. Let's do two more names and let's get out of this chamber. What's this guy's name?

Falling Down? That's me. That is so mean. That is so mean. Oh, shit. What's, uh, Fuggy, Fresco P, G, G, G, G, G-C-C-Flex, G-G-N-No. Hold, they put a gab, G-Gatcha on there?

Goldie Mac. Who's that? No Gab Gotcha. You know, there'd have to be some guys here that you're like, that guy's stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was, he was thriving. Gab, gotcha, that's like a pedophile. Yeah, gotcha.

He was fine, and shit. He was a nice guy. But you had Goldfinger. Goldfinger was actually a producer. You know who Goldfinger did, y'all? He produced a song called Fairy Tales. Never mind. That was the first song, I think, that Kelly, uh, Calice was on.

Oh, really? Yeah. He kind of brought police to the... How does it go? It's the only grave diggers. I remember fairy tales. You're the grave diggers? All right, yeah, we're going to the grave diggers.

That was with Prince Paul, right? Yeah, with Prince Paul or no. That was... Horrorcore, is that what they call? That's what they call. That's scary. It's dark. Dark.

Spooky. It's kind of like, do you think that the Jay-Z verse on Monster was horror core? When he's like, goblins, goos, spookies. Things that go bump in the night, scary things, nightmares. He made it sound like the $25,000 pyramid question though, right? The guys were like, things that go bumping the night, things that... Wait, wait, what's it called? Fairy tales on the Gravediggers album, the thick or sickle.

But that's not a very grave diggers thing. Fairy tale is a nice thing. Yeah, but they probably made it dark, bro. All right. All fairy tales was dark. Brother Grims. Wow, you look handsome on the cover of this. That's a nice picture.

Oh, thank you. Pause. What, I can't compliment my friend? Wait, so who produced this? Hey, that's the first one I ever said pause in my life, bro. Really, for me? Yeah, I never said it before. Yeah, I never said it before.

Yeah, it's an honor. Wait. Gold fingers, right? So Gabby, what's there? No, no, Gab got to. We left from behind. He didn't, he produced this. No, Goldfinger did this one.

Wait, can I ask you a question? What is an understood thing about 36 Chambers? It was fueled by, uh, that is a, that is a cocaine. cocaine album. Is that correct or is that just a gossip, bro? I mean like everybody was doing cocaine? But it sounds like everyone's just fucking amped. No, no, no, no, no. So that's just a myth.

That's a myth. That's a myth. You guys got to deal with these. Yeah, you got to deal with. How about the money guys deal with some of these gossipy whim? I'm not a cocaine head, don't sniff coke. Too cool to sniff coke. They said that it was fueled by, I mean, it sounds like,

because everyone's rapping hard. They might have meant like, because we had, Because we had no money, the money that we did have could have came from the pharmaceutical business. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So maybe the fauna... They were talking about that way. The vaccine. Yeah, Anthony Fauci.

One thing I like about, like, the solo records you produced afterwards is that there's a distinct identity. Like, you're kind of in you being an O-Tur like directing a film. Like, like to Cal is like he's kind of just fighting against. like the beats that you're making, right? Yeah. Then there's like, there's, I think for Iron Man, there's a lot more soul stuff there. Yeah, a lot of soul.

You kind of like, you kind of directed each of their movies in a way. Well, as a producer, you should be able to do that, right? You should be able to hear, feel the vibe of the artist, and compliment them. And also, you should be able to make sure that you're not doing the same thing over and over. One of, I'm gonna say this to you,

like, as you got your MPC, one thing, One thing I try not to do, right, was repeat myself. But not realizing that, which is cool for me, but all the footprints I'm leaving, other motherfuckers is picking them up. You know what I mean? If Method Man doesn't do to Cal, there's so many rappers that don't exist. Even though Method Man will never do an album or those flows again. You know what I mean?

So all the soul samples, like after there will be tears or shadowboxing or all this all that sped-up shit, but then by the time you get the Barbie Digital, I'm using all electronic equipment. I'm not even using samples. You know what I mean? So the point is like... You want to grow as an artist, right? Yeah. Yeah. But you don't realize that sometimes your fans just want you to do this. Yeah, well, fuck that. Right? And then sometimes you don't realize that, you know what? Oh, you don't want to do that no more? Uh-huh. I'll do it. And so many other people are now doing that because you already sold, like, like, say, let's say I'm saying, yo, everybody love donuts.

And I'm like, yo, you know what? I ain't selling donuts no more. They're making motherfuckers fast, trying to help these kids. How dare he say that? I'm moving over. Dilla, promoting obesity. You think Dilla was promoting obesity? No, yeah.

That's fast brain. But what happens now is that you don't do it, somebody else does it, bro. Yeah. Yeah. That album is beautiful. Donuts? Yeah, yeah.

I love Dilla. I was at the, I was at the, in D.C., at the African-American history museum that have his MPC that he made donuts. Yeah. But he was in the hospital, right? Dello is beautiful, man. Who do you see, like, who's,

did you have baby bros, like, producer-wise, that, like, you were there, like, kind of, kind of, I don't know, Sincere. That was fast, too, the way that, and it works, I like that. No, I mean, when you come up, when you come across, people that say, they learn from the Resort, they'll let you know,

you know what I mean? Yeah. Do you give them, was there anyone younger you give feedback to or like looked up to you and like well I've got brought boy I've dropped beat machines and keyboards on so many people you could you can forget it but I'm the I'm the I'm the hip-hop guy that was in Germany when Germany didn't have hip-hop I gave kids five grand ten grand told him go start it yeah really and then and then left them left

him alone my so so that's a whole other chamber about me was Kahnie look up to you yeah Kanya is I see kind of a lineage there no no he said that you know He learned a lot from the Abbott. The Supreme Clientel album was very inspirational time. As well as just, you know, just, you know, yeah. I mean, he once said that, I don't want to talk about Kanye like that, but he once said that, you know, they asked him who was your hero, and he said, DeRizza.

Yeah. You know what I mean? So that's respect. But I respect him as a genius and as a brother. I think as a talent. I think as a producer, he doesn't get enough credit. Honestly, I think he's one of the best. He gets a lot of credit, bro.

But I think people know more as a famous anti-Semite, but like I'm like, wait, have you heard the late registration, for instance? No, you're stupid. You've done like, as a. Oh, when I say you're stupid, bro? I'm not. And the apology, you didn't even need to apologize. Yeah, I've loved you and I just want you to be okay. You're my hero.

I love you so much. And it didn't really even hurt. And you know what? It kind of was not, it was not bad for us because it seemed like you were having a tough time and so it made anti-semitism seem like a product of someone having a tough time instead of something that all the signs are, this guy's crazy. Cut that, cut all that, cut all that. They're not going to cut none of this shit, but.

They were like, we're putting you on our list, Adam. When I call you stupid, though, bro? I'm one of you. Hey, Adam, when I call you stupid, it's a compliment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, you know that. No, when you date like a Latina, she's like, you're stupid.

Yeah, it's cute. That's good. That's like my dream girl kind of girl, honestly. I mean, my... You ever have a New York Latina as a date? I... You can't talk now. I can't talk now.

Yo, no, they're the best, bro. Let me say some about the New York Latina, so you can just know. I want to talk about this, yeah. They're just special, bro. They are. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's all I got to say.

They're amazing. Shout out to all the Latina in New York City. Yeah, beautiful people. Keep doing your thing. We love you. You guys are awesome. It really does feel great to be called stupid, though. It's like, ooh.

I am being stupid right now. You, you know, I think you've done kind of everything, right? You've done, like, everything kind of in music. Artwise or. Like in music and movies. You've kind of, like, done all the things. I mean, you haven't been like a best boy or a grip before. Maybe you have, I don't know.

No. No. You weren't like a teamster driving a truck, but like, no, you've acted, you've written, you've scored films. Actually, movie scores, like, approaching a film score, like, what differentiates the process? Does it feel like you're just making an album? When you're working as a composer, you're working for the development of the film and you're working at the service of the film.

Yeah. At first after I was working for the service of the doing. director right I realize no it's not for the director it's his vision but you have to serve that film and so it's a different approach because it's really it you got to have a skill set an ear set and an ability to do it but it's not just about coming in and making a fucking beat well what I had to do to try to understand it was I went back and studied Peter and the Wolf so in Peter and the Wolf every instrument represents a character yeah yeah yeah and so the flute was the

bird right the Chabones was the wolf and all that so once I understood that that's going back basically the classical going back to operas going back to suites as they were called a nutcracker sweet etc so I studied that first and then I understood that I can kind of do that with characters and I can kind of do that with inanimate objects in a film yeah so it helped me but even after that knowledge gets you, it doesn't matter, right? I was writing a scene in Carol Bell. I was writing the scene and I thought I had it and I showed it to court and he was like, no, that's not it. Now, that shook me because I'm the Riza. Right. And at the time, it was like, it was,

what I did was probably considered undeniable. But it wasn't good for that film. And then I did it again. This went on for two weeks, bro. That it was like, no, that's not. You hadn't had to collaborate in a while, I imagine, right? You've been like, you've been the boss. Right. And know if I've been at service. See, collaboration is one thing. That service is even higher than collaboration.

So then, maybe on a week three, I'm just in there doing what I'm doing and he bursted into the room. And it was like, that's it. And I was like, okay, understood. Like, it's not impersonal, it has to serve the film. Yeah. Yeah. Different process.

I mean, that score is all. It's a different process though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, what have you enjoyed the, like, like I guess you're getting into what, your, it's your fourth decade, fourth decade in, I don't think of my fourth feature film. Your fourth feature film?

Yeah. But it's kind of your fourth decade in making art. You're right, bro. Slow that down, slow down. Kind of. Yeah, I got signed. Yeah, I got signed, yeah, I got signed to the teenager. So I guess, like, you kind of answered this question a little bit earlier,

but like, you're like, you shouldn't be. You shouldn't grow complacent and, like, you know, just do the same thing over and over again. You grow restless and you want to change and evolve over time. Like, what's in your belly right now? Like, what's motivating you right now? Cinema. Cinema. Yeah.

I want to be, I want to add to the catalog of cinema some great work that even 20 years, 30 years, 50 years, 100 years for now, somebody could pick it up and look at it and go, yo, that's some shit, yo. You know, I remember doing the pandemic when everybody was stuck at home I discovered Bert Lancaster You know, Bert Lancaster? Uh-huh You know, Bert Lancaster?

Yeah, of course. Yeah, and it's just like I'm watching movies that I've never seen before You know, and it's like, it's fucking inspiring. Yeah. I'm getting shit, you know, I discovered... Have you seen Local Hero? Local Hero? No.

Is that the one of these new... Lancaster's last film? Local hero? Who's the guy, the old guy that? I don't see that one though. Cut it if I'm wrong. Cut it if I'm wrong. Fast, fast.

Thomas. He is. Yeah, yeah. It's his last performance. It's an unbelievable movie. Very slept on flick. I gotta see that. Local hero.

Thank you for that. One of my favorites. It's in a category which I call For the Fellas. Where it's like, if you're like out of bar with your friends, you're like, yo, let's watch Moneyball right now. Right. Right. Right.

Let's watch Master and Commander right now. And then you go home and you're like literally dapping each other because you're like, that's what it's all about. Yeah. Right. Brotherhood. Local hero is like definitely like that slap shot. Yeah, Wolf of Wall Street. It's just like for the boys. Wolf of Wall Street.

What a fucking masterpiece. So good. What a point on making. Okay, so this was Wolf of Wall Street as an example. Wait, you were saying you were studying Lancaster though. No, no, yeah. I was just saying like, I'm going to use the same thing. I was going to say by Leonardo and Scorsesee and Wolf of Wall Street.

But you're going to watch it 50 years later, bro. You're going to be entertained, bro. Right. And so my ambition now, I did it in music. Whether I thought I did it or not, I know I did it now. The Wu Chang is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. So I did it in music. I want to try to do that in film.

I want to try to have some films that you're like, yo, I got to see this. Tell somebody you got to watch that for whatever it does for you. Yeah. You know what I mean? One spoon of chocolate, maybe that's the way. one that fucking make you think about relations, right? You know, Man with the Iron Fist,

which we watched that recently in California. Yeah. Bro, it's really almost the first black superhero movie after Blade. But I didn't know that. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So cinema, I think, is my way as an artist now.

What about Blank Man with Damon Waynes? Have you seen that? Yeah, yeah. I thought he was a superhero. It's a very funny movie. Yeah. Have you seen it? Some of them.

He's just being like, he's just being gay. He's crazy. I don't know. He's crazy. Now I'm trying to think of black superheroes. I keep going, sorry. Yeah. I cut you off.

You know, that's it. All good. But like, yeah. You asked me what I want to do with someone. You didn't realize that until you saw Iron Fiss. No, no. In my belly. A question.

Ladies gentlemen, the question is, what's in my belly? Yeah. In my belly, it's to make cinema that can last and stand a test. time and inspire future generations and I'm going to be striving to do that the way I did with music yeah yeah and you're hungry ambitious yeah I'm ambitious about it we have a new company called 36 cinema oh cool you're saying we we we are you know like you guys are doing your own thing we're doing our own thing and and and and look look at I'm going to say

this out loud to you podcasting right you're a comedian it's a talk show yeah right I'm just saying you talk shows you talk shows podcast broadcasting, broadcasting, all these things have given outlets or voices and made it easier. Yeah. Right? And then they become a point, you're like, yo, fuck that, bro. We got our own cameras, our own fucking lights. We do it should the fuck way we want to do it.

Yeah. Cinema, it's hard for that to happen. Even though AI is here, it's hard for it to happen at the level that it projects on a big fucking swing. You need a lot of people there. Yeah, it needs a lot of energy. I'm trying to simplify that and trying to open it. to open a door for that so that it's not a 30 hurdle race it's only 10 12 yeah yeah so that's one my just streamline the production process yeah and the and the

distribution process yeah yeah you know I mean in a positive way though where everybody makes money everybody makes a smile and and more art is shared you're the best I want you to know that I mean this has been the best I seriously thank you I like you're like I think Yeah. I've been a fan for so long and it's really cool. And especially meeting you as like you're just such a sincerely lovely person. I'm like, thank you for being here. No homo. Thanks a lot. There is a guy.

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