The Adam Friedland Show (Cumtown) - SCOTT JENNINGS Talks Bush Presidency, Debates, CNN

Episode Date: January 14, 2026

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Abby, I mean, what we're doing is, there's no other cable show that has debates. Yeah. Every other cable show is six people sitting around in green. I'm going on next month. You're coming? Yeah. Okay. Why you laugh at me like this?

I think it's great. I think it's great. I mean. Oh, well, I'll see you on the battlefield, my friend. They told me. You don't even know what I'm going to do to you. They told me they were having trouble booking people. I get it now.

So rude. Just because you did the Iraq war, you think you're going to do. Hello and welcome back to the Adam Friedland Show. It's 2026. I'm Adam Friedland. First off, going back on the road, Emerald City Comedy Club, Seattle, Washington. I think it's like a week and a half away. Is that right?

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Also, if you have Patreon, you prefer to support. support us on Patreon, there's a link for that also in the show notes. Guys, there's merch, Adamfriedland. Show, go check it out. Shirts, hats. We're re-stocking hats. Why am I screaming? My guess is we can CNN political contributors, Scott Jennings. Scott made a name for himself early on in life as a successful campaign operative.

They called him the Master of Attack. His senseys were Mitch McConnell and George W. Bush. In recent years, Scott has become a social media media. sensation as a conservative commentator on the communist news network, otherwise known as CNN. To put it simply, folks, Scott is one of the most famous arguers in America today. Now, I'll be honest, one of my biggest fears is having an argument. I've avoided them my whole life. I've been ripped off numerous times and I've never had the guts to call customer service.

I once had what was deemed an open and shut case against a lifeguard, rude lifeguard, mind you, very attractive on the other. It was a girl, a hot girl lifeguard on the grounds of pain and suffering. But I buckled during cross-examination. It felt like an argument to me. Throughout human history, we have seen wars waged between human beings and human beings. We saw young men die on the battlefield. They were ripped from the cornfields of Iowa, the stick ball, black tops of Brooklyn. They were just boys.

And every last one of those wars started with an argument. So this week presented a new challenge as an interviewer to keep Jennings, a man who's on a hair trigger, from unleashing the monster inside of him. And that's Scott. Give it up. Scott, guys. Our next guest is a token conservative on,

I'm just kidding. Our next guest is author of the new book, Revolution of Common Sense. He's a contributor, a political contributor to CNN, Everyone, give it up for Scott Jennings, everyone. Let's make some noise. This is one of the worst ones I've heard yet. That's one of the most pathetic claps that are...

I'm one man. Just big. You do woo, who, who, who. Thank you. Do it like in Married with Children when Kelly Bundy comes out. You remember that? I do remember that. Everyone got so horny when Kelly came out.

It was a little bit inappropriate. A lot of folks. I was a teenager when that show was out. I recall those vibrations, yeah. You're 10 years older than me, I believe. How old are you? You're 48. 48. I'm 38. Okay.

Okay. So you're 10 years wiser than me. Kelly Bundy was a thing. So it was Peggy. She was unreal. She was unreal. My first crush was my cousin Vinnie. Oh, yeah. Mona Lisa Vito.

She's something else. She's like 60 today and she's still outrageous. Perfect. She really hasn't aged at all. She's amazing. So you love Hollywood. It's your favorite place? I do love Hollywood.

Do you consider yourself as, like, in showbiz, though? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. What I do is a mixture of showbiz and WWE. Yeah. You're a heel. I'm a lovable rascal, but if you want to call it a heel. You're like the Eddie Guerrero of CNN.

Eddie Guerrero. Yeah, yeah. No, that's like a B or C-tier wrestler. You've got to come up with somebody better than that. You're the gold dust. I'm like, I'm like, do you ever, do you ever gold dust? You would be gay to the other guy? And it was like really scary.

He wore a, he wore a strange. But he had a hot girl with him. It was very confusing as a child. I'd be like, why is he kissing the guy, but he's got to... You know, he had a very alpha father, the American dream, Dusty Rose. Dusty Rhodes, yeah. Who was an amazing wrestler. Yeah, who's a legend.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I mean, that was, you think that that's what the Democrats kind of want is a kind of gold? Yes, I think they would all dress that way if they could. Well, they want, like, just to be confusing. They want gold dust to reach. A nation of gold dust. I want a nation of Hulk Hogan, John Cena, and The Undertaker. They want a nation of gold dust.

Dude, the Hulkster, RIP, dude. I know. I finally met him last year. Yeah. He's like my childhood hero. I met him at the R&C. Oh, my God. I got to say, I'm a pinko.

Like, I'm a New York-style Jewish pincoe. But when he ripped that shirt, I was ready to go. You want to hear about it? Yeah. I've been trying to meet this guy for 40 years. Really? And they finally let me, and I took David Axelrod down there to meet him. Amazing.

And so we go down to the bowels of the arena, and we could hear him rehearsing in his dressing room. And he's in there hulking up, you know. So they open the door, and the guy says, you know, Hulkster, this is Scott Jennings and David Axelrod from CNN. And he comes out, and he's, you know, he's a little nervous. And he's handy shaking. And I said, Hulkster, are you nervous? And he said, I've never done politics, brother. and I said, well, you body slammed Andre the giant in front of 90,000 people.

I think it'll be okay. And that was politics. He then went out and delivered the greatest convention speech in the history of political conventions. Yeah, yeah. And ripped his shirt off. I've been at every convention since 2000. I've never heard anybody bring the house down. Obama 04 was pretty big.

Yeah, yeah, no, he was big. He didn't rip his shirt off. I'm not saying you agree with what he said. Obama, first of all, definitely. Definitely, he left us wondering what was under the shirt. You know, he was being a little bit more coy. But no, that speech I remember was big. Yeah.

It was so good that George W. Bush won the national popular vote. I mean, he wasn't running for president. Yeah, John Kerry was good. I know, Carrie, that was a fun campaign to work on because we won, but carry was a disaster. You got two extra states over two. You were on both campaigns. I want to get to you, because you're kind of like the Benson Boone of campaigns. You're the flipper.

You're the flip. You've flipped so many. You're a flip boy. Do you know who Benson Boone is? I have no idea what you're going to. He's this guy that sings and flips. You know that song? These beautiful days that I've got.

Okay, first off, we're going to watch a Benson Boone video. It's crazy. There are people in campaigns and elections that have lost every time and gotten a promotion each time. It happens a lot. Yeah. And you're like a guy that you win every time. Not every time. We won a lot, though.

What's a loss? that you've had. Oh gosh. Oh, back home in Kentucky, we lost a 2011 governor's race. That was a ass kicking. Oh, really? Yeah, that was not a great campaign. I wasn't aware until I was doing research for this, that like Kentucky was a blue state. It was. When I started Kentucky in 2000, my first campaign, Bill Clinton had won it twice. He won it both times. And Kentucky was overwhelmingly registered Democrat. Was it because a union? Unions, you know, it was a, it was traditionally, A lot of southern states were traditionally Democratic. They were New Deal Democrats.

But I thought after Civil Rights Act, they went red. It was very democratic. And we had Democratic governors most of the time. McConnell winning in 84 was kind of the beginning of it changing. But even up until the 90s, it was still Clinton won it twice. And so when Bush won it in 2000, that's when the real movement started. Then when Obama won in 2008 and during the Obama years, Kentucky like a lot of really rural states really really went that had to hurt

2008 so it hurt who you me yeah well it hurt the country and since I live in the country you gotta see this guy Benson dude all right dude so he's like sings wait and look out then he rips his things off and then look look at this whoa yeah that's that's what I said you are yeah I'm you're the Bandson mood of campaigned election I get it now yeah yeah yeah it was an even better compliment It was a great compliment because you're a good flipper. All right, let's get in. Okay, so for our audience that don't know who you are,

how would you describe someone you meet in that Hudson News? They say, what do you do? You're in the airport. They say, what do you do for a living, sir? Yeah. What do you say? Well, I'm senior political commentator for CNN. So they bring me on the news on CNN to analyze and debate the news with other people.

And you are like, you're the conservative on the panel typically? Yes. Are you typically the only conservative on the panel? Sometimes, but not always. Sometimes they bring on a second person. But in many cases, I'm the principal, conservative arguer. Do you like the one-on-50 kind of dynamic? Because you get, you get way more lines. You get way more action. I love the dynamic. And it's a fun, you know, it's fun to be that guy in the Lions did, you know. Yeah. I feel like after you're done recording, half the people are like, fuck you, Scott. And half the people are like, that's my boy over there. dropped a crazy one today, Scott.

Yeah, yeah. The professionals at this are the ones who love it, because they know it's good, debates are good TV. Yeah, yeah. I go all over the country, I hear two things. I love you and I love the debates. I hate you, but I love the debates. Everybody loves debates.

The country was founded on debates, and so CNN is smart to do it. What was your favorite debate of all time? Oh gosh, I mean, back in, oh, just generally? Yeah, yeah. Oh, gosh. You know, I'll tell you one, it's a little obscure, but when Dick Cheney took John Edward

to the woodshed in the... They went hunting together? 2004. No. In the 2004 election, that was a great, great debate. He recently passed. I'm sorry for your loss. That's why I was thinking about it.

I was watching old clips of Cheney just wearing Edwards out for like 90 straight minutes. It was outrageous. Yeah, the vice presidential debate is typically a shit show. But honestly, Vance wore out, you know, the Tim Walls debate. He could fly on Mike Pence. On Mike Pence's head, yeah. But in the 24 VP debate, you know, those looks that Walls kept shooting the camera. Yeah, you know, like he wandered into the wrong bar that right.

He was, there's never been anybody in American politics moran over their head that night that Tim Walls. I think Joe Biden maybe. Well, he was out by then. Yeah, yeah. I think he was. Well, Joe Biden at the first debate. Yeah, I was there for that in Atlanta back in the summer. Do you think that, I mean, that's.

kind of for America. It was kind of, everyone is embarrassing. I said on TV, my analysis was we need to pray for the president. Something's wrong with this guy. Your analysis was that Biden lost? No, my analysis was that, I'm not sure the country had a functioning commander-in-chief at that moment.

And he was still going to be president for another six months. Is that when you found out? Because I heard behind closed doors, he was just like, Oh, when I found out? He was a genius-level mathematician. Oh, yeah, yeah. Riding tricycles, juggling knives. Being on TV while they were

saying that? Like, like, did you know that that was, what did you, how did you respond to that when people are like, you got it, you got, just when no one's watching, this is, this guy's great. Well, I, along with every other Republican, had been watching this guy deteriorate for years. And then we were often debating people or being interviewed by people who were like, it's fine, don't worry, everything's good. And it was this amazing uniformity. In their analysis, they were all saying literally the same thing. Sharp as attack. You know, you heard the same.

Why were they saying that? Because Democrats, at least in their communications, are authoritarian. Once they decide what they're going to say, they make them all say it. And if you don't say it, they get rid of you in a hurry. The Republicans are good at, like, falling in line, I feel like, much better. Are we? I mean, we have a strong party leader, but you still have cats and dogs out there that make trouble for you. I mean, every party deals with that.

I'm just talking about from a... I'm just saying the Democrats, I know what you're saying, but in general, the Democrats seem like way more of a mess. Well, right now, they have no leader. Their problem is there's no person telling them what to do. Joseph Stalin or Karl Marx perhaps. Yeah, I mean, you know, they're not exactly alive to keep it under control. But, but, but they got no national party leader.

So you got people in different spheres of influence trying to do things. You have Newsom, the Clown, AOC. Newsom the Clown. Yeah. Oh, you're coming out of nicknames. Well, the president has inspired me to. The nicknames really fell off, though. Did they?

Yeah, like low-energy Jeb was great. Little Marco's great. Now he's just saying, like, bad Marjorie, Taylor Green. Now he said Marjorie Trader Green. That's, oh, he's back. Pocahontas was, Pocahontas was the greatest. Still the greatest. Do you remember when he was talking to the wind talkers?

He was like giving them medals. He told him. He was like, he was like, you guys have been here forever. You've been here in a long time. There's another person who says she's been there. time. They call her Pocahont. And these guys are, one is in a wheelchair, they have like dementia

and he's like still talking shit about he really was. What's your favorite Trump? Like, what's the funniest Trump moment to you? Foniest Trump moment. Yeah, what was his number one for you? Oh, man. Gosh, it's I don't know. I wasn't prepared to answer that.

I have to say his, he's hilarious. Oh, no, I mean, he has a lot of bangers. Do you remember the Easter Egg roll? The MAGA hat? He's at the Easter egg roll and a kid gives him his MAGA hat and he signs it and he throws it into crap. Oh, I like the one when he took the call from the kid about Santa Claus on the Santa Claus online. Amazing! And he was like, he was like, it's a little marginal for you at that age.

He's like, grow the fuck up, kid. Life is pain. I mean, do you think he's going a little spicy these days? Oh, spicy? Yeah, yeah. He's kind of going a little like, uh, Like, he's talking about, like, how hot guys are and so. Arnold Palmer, huge cock.

Yeah. He's like, look at that guy. Oh, my God, I would kiss him. I think, yeah, Zoran, he was, like, a little bit, like, oh. He was a little bit, like, flirting. It was weird. I've never seen him, yeah. Have you ever seen him like anyone that's, like, not, like, another world leader?

Like anyone? Yeah, like, he loves Modi, for instance. He likes other world leaders. But I've never, like, Zoron's the first person underneath him that, like, Trump's. like genuinely like had a crush on. I think he likes winners. I think he likes people who, you know, are succeeding in a moment. I think he does.

And so, because that's how he views himself. Yeah, yeah. And so. I mean, it's great for the city. He loves a crush on Zoron. It's good for us. Well, he has a crush on New York City. Yeah, he loves New York.

Even though he lives in Florida. I know. He loves New York City. Wait, so let's get to you. You're from Kentucky. Yep. Bluegrass State. Yep.

West Kentucky. West Kentucky. You're from a place called Dawson's Creek. Dawson Springs. I believe Dawson's Creek. Yeah, they did make a show about it. Growing up, what was it like when Pacey hooked up with the teacher? Were you mad that the teacher?

Huge scandal. It was a big scandal. But you grew up like a working class. Yeah, right? Yep, it's coal mining town, small town. My dad was an alternate times a garbage man and a factory worker. You don't have to be woke about it. Your dad was a cisgender white male?

He was. That's what they, you don't have to call him a garbage man. Back when that wasn't cool. He was, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what they call all of us fellers, huh? But yeah, he was a blue-collar guy. My stepmom worked in a factory and cleaned houses. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And worked in a, when, at various times, my parents would be laid off. She would work at a gas station overnight. Yeah. But yeah, blue-collar folks, great folks. It was tough, growing up, working class? I mean, I never, was it tough? Yeah. I mean, I never felt like it was tough.

Like, when we just grew up like everybody else, I mean, it's a poor area. University of Louisville. Yep. Cassie is Clay? You live in Louisville now? Just outside of it, yeah. Okay, that's my home area. So how do you, so you commute to New York to do the show? Fly up to New York and bounce back between New York and Washington on a weekly basis.

Some of our shows are in New York, some are in D.C. Okay, yeah, yeah. It's a heck, hellish. It's a weekly commute. Yeah, yeah. And so you like New York now? Like, have you had a Carrie Bradshaw moment since you've been up here? A Carrie Bradshaw moment?

Yeah. No. But I do like New York. I like the park. It's nice, right? We got a hell of a city. Yeah, I can't believe he just voted to destroy it, but yes, that's a great point. Why?

I didn't, was it on the ballot? It was. I voted for all, I voted yes on all the questions. Your choices in the mayor's race were destroy it, sort of destroy it, possibly destroy it. Sliwa would have been good. You went, you went destroyed. If we had Slewa, he would have, he's like, if you got beef, we got to break it down with some break dancing. That would have been good.

Yeah, it's never good to wear a hat. Who would you have voted for in the election if you were voting in New York? Who would I have voted for? Yeah. I mean, I traditionally vote Republican. So Slewa. Burray is kind of a rough look though. I know.

It's kind of not American. What is he doing with that thing? If I had been consulting him, I might have switched it out for a cowboy hat. Yeah, yeah. I don't know about New York cowboy hat. I think it's kind of distinctive. Actually, you know that there's an area in New York called The Hole in Brooklyn, right? right and it's an area that's under the water table and basically it looks like a post like what

the factory has closed down like you're in the middle of nowhere in the south right and it's a it's like a kind of desperado area okay i swear to god i'm not making this up it's uh there's a ton of bodies that the mafia dump there um they don't have sewage because it's under the water table it floods constantly there's like trailers there and stuff it does not look like the rest of new york and they have a league of black cowboys, they're called. And it's a dudes in cowboy hats and riding on horseback that like kind of patrol the area. I'm not, it's like moronic if I made that up. Do you want to go to the hole with me later?

No, I did not. No, no. It's actually a bizarre area. I mean, Oogh, if you want to go. It's like a, it's like a, well, when you're driving out to JFK, you drive past it, you don't even realize. It's like, uh, by Ozone Park in East New York. I'm really selling the hole to you. This is going to make the episode, too.

Okay. So you're a Mitch McConnell scholar. I was at the University of Louisville. What is that, is for getting good grades or something? The McConnell Scholarship, he set this center up thinking that a lot of kids in Kentucky go out of state. So he sets up this center. He raises all the money for it.

He doesn't pick the kids, but they pick 10 kids a year. They give them a full ride at the University of Louisville. And it's kids who have an interested in public service. and other things. And so I was lucky enough to get one of these scholarships. I think if I hadn't gotten it, I don't know what would have happened to me. And so it's true to say without McConnell,

you know, it changed a trajectory in my life. And he's your, like, what are your mentors? He was my mentor. Yeah, yeah. And you kind of were a rising star hot shot. You're very young. Like straight out of college, you ran the 2000 presidential race in Kentucky.

Yeah. Yeah. You flipped. Your first flip. Kentucky flipped. Your first boon. You've got to drop that on CNN tonight. I'll try.

I'm the Benson Boone of campaigns and elections. If I dressed like him, it would be noteworthy. What do you think of the light suit? Kind of Obama's style? It's distinct. Do you feel uncomfortable sitting next to a guy in a gay suit like Obama was wearing? I was more worried about your boots than your suit. Do you remember?

Why are you worried about my boots? These are for farm labor, sir. But now that I know where you hang out with the cowboys, I can get it. What do you mean? I hang out with the cowboys. Cowboys. You think this is some sort of like what? I think it's cool that we have Cowboys in New York City.

Yeah, I got to see this for myself, I think. You think I'm lying to you still? Can someone say I'm not lying? Caleb? It's true. It's true. Okay. Yeah, yeah. All right. It's on the way to JFK. It's a terrible place. I never go out there, by the way. I hate JFK. Although I've had to go to the West Coast a few times

more recently, and so I've been out there more. Yeah. And I hate It's the worst airport in the world. It's terrible. It really makes me want to kill myself. I want to go to LaGuardia, where it's Europe. It's fabulous. Where it's like an international mall with fountains. That's how we get here from Kentucky.

We go right to LaGuardia. Yeah. It's really nice. So 2000, you're working, like, how did you at 20 to run a presidential campaign? I was a reporter, actually. So I was in college, I worked as a journalist, and I thought I was going to be a journalist. And McConnell called me up at the end of my college career and said, you want to come work on this campaign? for George W. Bush. So I said yes, I left journalism behind for a bit and decided to get into

politics and he kind of talked me into it. We had a blast. We won Kentucky. It was great. And did you meet Karl Rove? Like, were you working in a concert with, yeah? I did not meet Karl Rove that year. I met him later and then I met him again when I worked for Bush in 04. Yeah. But during that campaign, though, I was in my little office in Kentucky working away. And what was the strategy there? How did you flip Kentucky? Well, Bush was a better fit for Kentucky. I mean, he had a kind of an attitude that Kentucky liked. We had been trending that way a little. Gore, though, was from Tennessee, and so they thought maybe treated him as a little bit of a hometown guy, but he turned out to be such a crappy candidate and really ran more liberal than probably Clinton was perceived. Clinton won

Kentucky twice, but he never got 50% of the vote. But Gore, by Labor Day, it was pretty much over. And I actually spent some time in West Virginia that fall because that was Carl's big bet was that West Virginia, which had also been voting Democrat for a long time, was going to flip too. And so, so like who was, like, who did you work with? Like, you met President Bush during that election? I did meet President Bush one time. Yeah, during the election, but I didn't spend a lot of time with him. He didn't, he didn't spend a ton of time in Kentucky. So you were like primarily campaigns and elections prior to working at the White House? Yes, I did campaigns, you know, did journalism, and then I did campaigns from 2000 to, right through 2004, I did nothing but campaigns, and then in 2005 I went to the White House.

And then, of course, in 2004 you ran the New Mexico ground game for Bush again, and that was a flip, too. That was. I had never been to New Mexico, and they sent me out there. They had some party troubles and some infighting, and so they brought in an outsider to run the campaign. It was the only state that bordered Texas that Bush did not win in 2000. And he had lost it by 366 votes. And so we decided to try to flip it. And we did. We won by 5,98 votes. It was a great election.

Yeah. And that was a, I guess, was that the Bill Richardson election? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. There's a famous and funny moment at the end of the election. John Kerry was doing these satellite TV interviews, and he's sitting in a chair, and he does one in New Mexico, and he thinks the camera is off. but it's still on and there's footage of him going

Bill Richardson better fucking deliver and of course he didn't but but that's they relied on him to win the state and we beat him and so your profile was like rising in the in the GOP yeah I was having a good run of it

yeah yeah and you were fucking young sorry for the F word I don't know if you cussed you cussed you cuss minimally oh you just did a little yeah as a quote I ordinarily wouldn't on CNN but given that this is more of the minor leagues of broadcasting.

No, this is that. No. I don't know what you said. This is a really important show. I don't know if you read the Jew York Times or the Jew Yorker or the Jew

Q mag. Sorry, I don't know why I went self-hating Jew there. I apologize, dude. Minor leagues. You really heard it. What would you say?

Single A? Double A. Single A. No, it's a double A. A. Well, it's carpeted. So. If you're good, you skip AA, you go to AAA.

Yeah. So during your time in campaigns and elections, you were known as a master of attack. Is that right? Well, you were dubbed that. I learned from the best, McConnell. I mean, that was his M.O. Yeah. His campaigns were just slice and dice.

Were mean. And his mantra was always, if you throw a pebble at me, I'm throwing a boulder at you. Really? That's how we were taught. And that's how we were trained. What was the meanest one you did? The meanest thing we ever did? Yeah.

Oh, man. I got, I'll tell you one, I was running a state Senate campaign in Kentucky once, and I had this college kid record secret audio of this guy running, and he kept referring to his constituents, his redneck constituents. Uh-huh. That's not that mean. And, well, for them down there, it was, I mean, it was so derogatory. But anyway, I got this secret audio file. That felt like James Bond kind of shit. Put it on the air, destroyed this guy. It was great.

Do you remember the birthday card? I do. The Hillary Clinton, so I think about Hillary Clinton's birthday a lot because it's my birthday. And October the 26th. This is great. And so at the end of this election, we sent a, it was one of those birthday cards that you open and it talks. And so we. That's expensive, Scott. Yeah. And the way you manufacture these things is crazy. So I had been planning it all year because you've got to order the card and then you've got to record the chip. You've been planning on ruining her birthday all year?

Yes. And we sent the Hillary Clinton birthday card out to, like, everybody in the state. Guess whose birthday is coming? That's right. Hillary Clinton. And her wish, we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business, Clinton says. No, let's ruin Hillary's birthday. Send a message, vote against every Clinton Democrat running.

Jennings, a regular columnist said the mailer cost to vote. three to four times as much as a typical mailer and took much longer to produce. Of course, it took a year to ruin her birthday. Scott, had she ruined previous birthdays of yours? Every one. We share a birthday. Every single birthday I've ever had has been ruined by Hillary Clinton. I finally returned in the favor.

Now that, you know, Stephen Seagall and I have the same birthday. Oh, really? Yeah. Should I ruin his birthday? No, you should have him in here. Is it annoying that? Have you seen the size of that guy? right now it he's enormous yeah I mean he's a fat fat so yeah I hate that because he

was so awesome you know I wasn't that good under siege that is the greatest I just rewatched it when I just rewatched it when that chick jumps out of the cake I know he was so offended it was like morally offended then they drug her to sleep do you know yeah yes you know that um Seagall it was a bet between a Hollywood executive and an agent they said I can make fucking anyone famous even this fucking idiot right here Yeah, literally. That movie has Gary Busey in it.

Gary Bucy and Tommy Lee Jones. And Tommy Lee Jones plays a psycho. I know. It was outrageous. Great film. I love it, dude. Cinema. I love that movie.

I easily rewatched it. The second one, not as good. It was on a train. Not as good. Not as good. No. Just like Speed 2 was also on a train. Forget it.

We're the same guy. I don't know. I think it's a little woke of you to do that to Hillary. A woke of me? Yeah. Like, I think a real man shouldn't even know. what his birthday is. Yeah.

I think that's alpha. To be like, I don't even have a birthday. I don't even know what my age is. Are you one of those people that's like, it's my birthday month? No. You're a real birthday, bitch? I don't have a ton of recollection

of ever really celebrating my birthday that much. And then when I got it. Oh, now you're backtracking. Now when I got it to campaigns. Spin, spin, spin, spins. It's at the end of the camp. And everyone's too busy to celebrate my birthday. Oh, that's sad.

We never have a birthday. I don't have one. I feel like every year she's putting out, remember in the election? She put out that tweet and it was like, You know, happy birthday to our future. It's like, happy birthday to this future president, and they put her picture from her yearbook on it.

It was so embarrassing. That's how she celebrates. I don't get to do anything. So I was offended by it. So I sent her the card. Scott, I'm really sorry, man. No one wants to come to your birthday because it's the campaigns? Yes, people are too busy knocking on doors.

Scott. Slandering Democrats. You, maybe, like, I'll come, like, maybe next year. Yeah. I don't know, dude. This year will be a campaign. Have you ever wondered if no one wants to come to your birthday because they don't like you? I had not considered it.

So you've thrown a party and just no one showed up? No, I didn't throw my own self a party. Do you throw a party? No one threw a party for me. Last year. Last year. Scott, this is, this makes me really sad. We got to throw you the biggest bash.

Yeah. Oh, I think if we threw a party together at the black hole. Yeah, yeah. It's not the black hole. No, Scott, I did not say the black. That's what you said. You did. I did not say black. You racialized it. I did not say black Scott. No, that's what you got. I did not say black Scott. We'll roll the tape. The hole.

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You've had a great year. I've had a great couple of years. I mean, the last year, you're a star now. Would you say? I'm having a lot of fun. Does it feel different? You know, it felt different the other day at O'Hare Airport when a guy tried to fight me at the McDonald's. Why was that?

He has an unhealthy relationship with his television. And literally walked up to me and like chest bumped me and wanted to fight at the McDonald's. Yeah, and what did you do? I just, I told him to back away and not engage with me. And he kept yelling at me. I collected my cheeseburgers and went to my gate. Really? Maybe you took his McDonald's?

No, no. It was definitely mine. Were you scared? No, I wasn't scared because we were already past security, so I didn't think he... You haven't gone. No, but it only takes, I mean, as we have found out, there are people walking around this earth that have take matters into their own hands attitude right now. It's not good.

Good, yeah. People shouldn't be mean to each other, yeah. They should not. Okay, I want to talk about, so you join the White House 05 to 08. Yes. That's a crap time. We call it the salad days. You're having a rough one.

Salad days? Isn't that what they say when things are going well? The salad days? Oh, I thought you guys were like being liberal. Buddy, 30% of the country thought we were doing a good job. 30. That means three and ten people that you meet were super happy. That's a lot.

No, it's pretty bad. Yeah. Is it? I think the president's supposed to be pop. I mean, three is pretty high. But you like, the first term, if you were political director, You would have been rocking it. Yeah.

They were very popular. We were popular. We were killing radical Islamic terrorists. Yeah, yeah. And protecting America. So we were very popular. What was that first year? It was Katrina.

So, 05 was Katrina. Shivo. That was going on. We also had, you know, the situation in Iraq, you know, I feel like they bombed the Golden Dome Mosque and got a little chaotic in Iraq. People in America were upset about the Golden Dome Mosque? Well, people in America were upset about the, this was going on for a long time and it was...

Were they ever like, there's no weapons of mass? No. No. Do they think there were? Yes. The CIA told them there were. Yeah. And so, but that lingering situation, Katrina,

Bush decided to try to reform social security. That did not go well on capital. The privatization. Which, by the way, had he done that, the returns on the stock market from then until now would have been incredible. It would have tied it to the SMB. Well, it would have allowed you to put a portion of your Social Security into a private account if you so chose to do that. And if you'd done that, you'd have gotten a much better return than the government's gotten on it now.

I put mine in the Trump, the Trump crypto. Oh, well, if you got out at the right time, you did great. Did it crash? I don't know. It's kind of trashy, this crypto. I don't understand it. It's a little trash. I don't get it.

It's usury, right? It's against Christ. We can both agree. You shouldn't be able to, what, the, yeah. Like you a coin for like a like a cartoon or something? I don't I don't have any understanding of it I have no idea sometimes they bring it up on CNN and I'm like what the hell are you guys talking about? Yeah we need to get a we need to look into that what am I a 12 year old? Yeah you a monkey cartoon is money now like I do you know these guys are young what is it? You know what? Here's the thing. Yeah it's like the only thing I can equate it to in my own life I used to collect baseball

cards as a kid. Me too, bro. And I had a magazine and it would tell you what the baseball cards were worth. Roger Clemens, $4.80 for him. And I remember thinking, how could Roger Clemens be worth $4.80? It's like. It's worth whatever we say it's worth. Yeah. It's worth whatever we say it's. And that's what, that's what this feels like to me. Like the baseball cards used to be, now they're not worth anything. Yeah. But they were at one time. Do you remember the playing cards for the Iraq War? I do remember that. The terrorists. Yeah, those are cool. And they would and they would like cross him off. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's pretty awesome.

Chemical Ali. I remember that. Who is that guy? He got the best nickname. He did have a good name. Yeah, yeah. I feel like it made me put a little bit of a target on his back when his parents named him chemical. Yeah, he was a DJ. Yeah, yeah. He was Iraq's biggest DJ. Me and my friend, I was a senior in high school of five. Yeah. Me and my friends had a really

inappropriate term about, related to the Shivo. You did? Yeah. In retrospect, we should, I mean, it wasn't cool but we used to call it getting really drunk getting a shy vote did you're 18 this the first time you've admitted that yes and I'm sorry okay it made your life difficult and I'm sorry okay thanks what was it like with did you ever have to cheer Bush up cheer him up yeah was he like come on again everyone's pissed at me pretty happy guy you know I did get to go to the Oval office frequently for

personnel meetings we were I was part of the team that would recommend to the president who to appoint to things. Yeah. And that would cheer him up. Hey, we found a guy who loves you and we're going to put him in this job. Uh-huh. Everyone was happy. Yeah, yeah.

Was he a funny guy? Very funny guy, very nice guy. Sweet. Great guy. And Cheney was also kind of a grandfatherly guy. Yeah, yeah. Just loving and very much. They were great guys.

Yeah, yeah. Rumsfeld was very funny. Remember in the press conferences where you, like, do the squint? They'd be like, why is the Iraq War? going so bad. He's like, shut up. Yeah. It's funny, it's hilarious guy. Back in that 2006 midterm, which we got destroyed.

And the first one, you guys, 2002 was unreal. Well, Bush was so popular. But in that 2006 midterm, you know, a lot of people wanted Bush to fire Rumsfeld just as a political tactic. Like, let's fire the Secretary of Defense to, you know, for politics. And he wouldn't do it. I always admired that, actually, because he didn't want to play politics with national security.

and he ended up firing Rumsfeld after the election. Do you guys think that 04 in the presidential race like a little bit like Will Ferrell hooked you guys up? He did the most iconic... The funniest guy in the world was playing your boss. Yeah, and it was the most iconic impersonation, I think still to this day. Do you guys say thank you to Will Ferrell a little bit?

Well, I love Will Ferrell, so... He's the funniest guy in the world. He's incredible. Yeah. But that impersonation, I mean, it was, it was, It was terrific. Yeah. Do you think if Alec Baldwin was better at Trump, friend of the show?

He is? People might like Trump. He sucks, dude. No, he's a good friend. He's one of my best friends. S&L, it was the worst decision they ever made. When they got rid of Daryl Hammond, who was objectively the best Trump. You know, he's a wild man.

I met him. I know him. Yeah, yeah. He's great. He's like one of the funniest SNL. He had a crazy life. He has had a crazy life. And his, you talk to him about Trump sometime.

He really studied how to do. that and he said he had one of the greatest quotes about Trump he said he's a genius empath and I thought man this guy really did kind of study how to be Trump he when SNL canned him from that that was stupid do you think Trump would have been like 90% approval rating if they got like Daniel Day Lewis to play him on SNL you think it's because Baldwin did bad I think Baldwin played it I think he did do the friend of the show he did not do a great impersonation a B he played it mean Hamman played it funny.

Yeah. Baldwin played it mean. Do you think Trump is bullied too much? Bullied? Yeah. By the media and by... Yeah. Well, it's hard to bully Trump.

He's kind of an alpha, but I do think they're mean to him. Yeah, they're mean to... But I think they were mean to Bush. I think they're mean to... Does he hurt his feelings? He hurt his feelings? Yeah, Trump. I don't know.

Probably not. He's the president. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of... But we should... I mean, mental health is serious. We can't risk a president having a mental health person. having a mental health crisis? Yeah, we've never had that. Yeah, yeah.

I mean... In recent memory. I mean, yeah. I want to do an exercise real quick. Okay. You're a debater, right? Yes. You have a craft, right?

When you're on Abby Phillips show, you kill them. I mean, you're not going to admit it because you're a humble man. But you crush them. We have a good show. But you crush everyone else. You're really good at that show. It's a great show. I love watching.

that show and you're the star. Do you consider yourself the star? You won't do it. False modesty. Abby, Abby's the star. No, come on. Abby's our leader. But you cook them. Well, she lets me sit there and debate. Abby throws you the assist, John Soxton style. Abby, I mean, what we're doing is, there's no other cable show that has debates. Yeah. Every other cable show is six people sitting around. I'm going on next month. You're coming? Yeah. Okay. Why you laugh at me like this? I think it's great. I think it's great. I mean, Oh, well, I'll see you on the battlefield, my friend. They told me.

You don't even know what I'm going to do to you. They told me they were having trouble booking people. I get it now. So rude, just because you did the Iraq war, you think you're going to do. All right, I want to do a debate. Like, you're an empath, do you believe in empathy? Yes. So sometimes you've got to put yourself in the other person's shoes.

So we're going to do an exercise where you take the opposite side of what you would typically do, Just to like kind of as an exercise, display how good you are at debating. Okay. So the first topic, LeBron James should shut up and dribble. I want you to take the no and I'm going to take the yes. So go ahead. I should take the side that LeBron James should. Should not shut up and should not shut up.

You should keep talking. Yeah, yeah. And stop dribbling. And just to display, A, you could put yourself in the other person's, uh, Luke Casey boots, bought him in Austin when I was doing the, shut up, dude. They're nice. Because you're doing ostrich.

And I'm doing what, calf? Yeah, that looks leather. What are you judging my misfer? Can you break it down for me? I just wasn't, I was surprised to see you wearing them. I like it. Because I'm a good old boy. Both of us are.

Well, you go to the black hole with the Cowboys. I don't go to the, first of all, stop it with the black hole. LeBron James should be able to give his opinion. This guy is an American. He has free speech rights. Oh, here you go again, Scott. He's a civil rights leader. He is an inspiration.

What the hell? What the hell? And when you denigrate this man by just saying he's nothing more than a basketball player, you take away his agency, you take away its humanity, and frankly, what you're doing right now is nothing short of racist. Oh, come on, Scott. LeBron James is one of the most famous basketball... Did you not hear me call you a racist?

Listen. That's how you end debates. Okay, get ready for the... It's over. It's already over. LeBron James is one of the most famous basketball players in America today, but beyond that, he's a role model to kids. And since the beginning of 2025,

we've seen over 1,200 deaths from talking while dribbling. LeBron James is obviously good enough to dribble a basketball and say a sentence, but he insists on doing crossovers while being loud at the same time. It begs the question, why is he doing it? If you study the cases all but one of the people

who have died were white, it begs the question, does LeBron James want all white children to die? I yield the floor to my esteemed call, from the steam room at Equinox locker room West Village. Okay, next, next debate. I beat you. Next debate.

So, okay, trans women are women. You have to say that they are, and I'm going to say they're not. I have to say that they are? Yeah, you take the opposite side. Show how good of a debater you are. Okay, let's see here. Well, this is a tough one. But let me get in care.

Go ahead, dude. You're the best of the biz, dude. Show us how good you are. Look, here's the bottom line. I'm not going to let someone else determine what I am on the inside. Only I know what I am on the inside. What are you? What am I?

I'm someone who understands and believes that trans women are women. And it would be completely irresponsible for me to go out and try to make them into something that they're not. Who in their right mind would try to make someone into something that they're not? That sounds like what a crazy person would do. Okay. Listen, I've no trans women. I've met trans women, and I'm not afraid to say it. Trans women are not women.

For instance, trans women tell stories that actually make sense and that go somewhere. Trans women are way smarter. They also are incredible drivers. If you're saying that a trans women aren't women, then why do they earn $1 for every $1 that men earn? Okay. Okay. Last one. Let's do the last one. Okay. You are, say your take is that the Epstein files should be released. My take is that they should not. Okay. Yeah. I have to release the Epstein file. You want to release the Epstein files. Yeah. Well, it's pretty obvious that a lot of rich, famous, powerful people got away with terrible things.

Why shouldn't we shine a light on their terrible behavior and expose this cabal of the powerful for what they are? Petos and absolute sick people who need to be punished. Okay. There you go. That was a tough one for you too. Okay. Okay. Here you go again, Scott.

Let me get this out of the way. Jeffrey Epstein is a monster, okay? He's a sex trafficker. He's a pedophile. I don't like Jeffrey Epstein before you try to pull a fast one on me. You're getting ready to do the thing where you say, but. But the Epstein files should not be released. Reasonally it came to my attention that Jeffrey Epstein

is also a Jewish person, and so am I. And in the current political climate of anti-Semitism, we can't risk the anti-Semitism that would ensue were people to know that Jeffrey Epstein was a bad guy. So for that sake. OK. So effectively, you're arguing that releasing the files would jeopardize our national security.

Well, any time a Jewish person does anything bad, I get nervous. Like Steve Bartman, remember that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. My dad and I looked at each other and we were like, oh, God, don't be Jewish. And he was. Do you remember how Jewishly, he, he, uh, voice I saw Lou was going for the flyball.

I remember. Yeah, he sort of ruined baseball for several years. And my dad and I literally looked at each other and were like, please don't be us. Please. Okay. So let's let's get into like, um, let's get into this, like what you're asked about constantly. I don't want to dwell on it.

But like, uh, in 2016, you wrote an op-ed and said that. Nine years ago. Nine years ago, back when you were a hippie, you said Trump was an authoritarian, and then they say, this is what they say about you. Then you called him an old man with nothing to do from Florida after January 6th. You called Florida Man. What is Florida Man?

People say it all the time. I thought it'd say you're like addicted to pills. Nah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's some describer of some kind of behavior. Okay. I don't quite get it. Kind of you get hit on the thing that you were like the guy on CNN that was like Trump's Trump's being a bad president or after January 6th, you're like I did not like that you didn't like Jan 6th and you kind of like we're critical of Trump you were like a Republican who was critical of Trump and then kind of

What people label the your turn as is a heel turn kind of in a no no in like a professional wrestling wrestling context what what motivated your evolution I'd say well first of I voted for Trump for three times. And I voted Republican my entire life. So it's not really all that unusual for me to be supporting Republicans. But I think if you look back on all my years at CNN, you know, sometimes Trump does things I don't like and I've said that on the air. A lot of times he does things I like very much and I've said that on the air. So, you know, I think there's a class of Republican out there that hates Trump so much that they want everybody to not just turn against Trump, but turn against their own party and vote Democrat forever and ever.

And I just fundamentally disagree with that. Yeah. You know, we're going to fight for the future of Western civilization. You want me to go out here and vote for Kamala Harris to save conservatism? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life. Kamala Harris to save conservatives. That's what their argument was in 2024. Well, does Dick?

Dick did that. Your boy, Dick Cheney. He supported his daughter. Not a surprise. He did it for his daughter. That's what I think. Yeah, yeah. Your boys from the White House when you were there,

They haven't been very vocally supportive of Trump. Some haven't. Some have. I mean, is George. George is a fan or no? Of Trump? Yeah. I don't know.

I wouldn't want to speak for it. I don't think so, but I don't know. I mean, it seems like... By the way, it's fine. I don't care who your support. I'm not saying it's bad or good. I'm just asking. But the people who get so upset about, you know, I could be critical of Trump one day,

and then, okay, now we're having an election. What's the best choice for the future of the country? It was a no-brainer for me. I'm not saying Kamala is better. That's what they were saying. I mean, you had all these people that had been out of shape with me all the time are mad that I didn't vote for Kamala Harris. It's the stupidest reason to be mad if... People are saying you should have voted for Kamala Harris?

Their argument was that all Republicans should vote. The rhinos are saying that. No, to be a rhino, you'd have to be a Republican, and they're not even Republicans anymore. They've left the party. Yeah. And they want all Republicans to join them in voting Democrat forever and ever. I don't understand it. Yeah, yeah.

I don't get it. I've been a Republican my whole life. Okay, so I want to talk to you about, like, your rise and your star profile. I didn't know who you were until a year ago. I don't really watch CNN. But I think because of, like, social media and clipping, you've kind of been a breakout star there. Like, what is the objective on the show? Like, what do you consider winning, I guess, like, when you're, like, getting into it on Happy Phil?

Oh, well, for me, I mean, I'm trying to represent the best argument for, you know, basically half the country. I feel like I'm their principal channel for how they're absorbing the news and how they would debate a particular issue. I mean, my only mandate as a commentator is just to give my opinion based on my views, my values, and my experience. And you're really good at what you do, right? But I think winning for the show is actually, is the audience smarter for what they just heard. Do you think that you've convinced people? Convinced? Yeah.

I think oftentimes... You change their mind? And I think oftentimes I show up with arguments or vectors that people say, I hadn't thought of that. And the reason they hadn't thought of it is because I think we live in ideological bubbles right now. People aren't often presented with alternative viewpoints. If you're a liberal, you're not hearing from conservatives maybe. And so the one guy that you hear from tells you something you hadn't thought about in a way. Yeah, I think we're raising some eyebrows in that way.

Do you think that, because the show is like the argument show, right? Do you think like it's a really people are like like really pissed off these days and like yeah like Political violence is on the rise is very divided times and people are like in general like the internet is all Arguing right and it's probably why the clips have done so well because it's like a conflict driven Product the the show that you're on do you think it's like is that good for people you think it gets people more pissed like I wanted to fight you in the fucking airport I think that debates are good I think politics is good I think it's the way we solve our problems. Why are people trying to beat your ass in an airport? Well, I mean, I get it. Some people have unhealthy relationship with their TV, but that's not most people. I think most people are

smart enough to be able to absorb a debate and say, okay, I agree with this or I agree with that. I mean, it's how we solve our problems. There's no other alternative unless you want to do something like violence, which nobody wants to do, hopefully. But it's also how, like, you get people, like, into it, too. Like, it's good TV. It's good TV, but you're making the show good. It's a great show, but it's the debating format. People like debates. Remember, CNN had a history of this. We had Crossfire.

Yeah, yeah. Everybody loved that too. Somehow we got away from debating each other. Like, to be able to confront someone or to have a debate, even if it's tense, that's okay. And I think one of the messages of the show is we're not always going to agree. Yeah, yeah. But if we can disagree and sit at the table and do it and then do it again the next night, I think that's modeling good behavior. So you think the people watching it don't leave it more pissed?

No, I don't actually. I think they leave it, hopefully they leave it more informed because you heard somebody say something that you hadn't considered as part of the overall discourse. You think really? I do actually. Well, at least for me, I mean, look. I think people are like, let's go Scott. I agree with that. Yeah, yeah. But also, you know, I think sometimes what I'm doing is giving people a way to debate or a way to argue or sort of a debating vector that they hadn't thought of. And so I sort of feel like I'm informing a whole bunch of people.

You're kind of giving your boys the roadmap. Yeah. But I also think a lot of our audience is not conservative. And so I do think people out there look at these debates and they say, why would someone believe that? And they're going to get the best possible answer to that if they listen to me. What is the liberal media, I guess? It's used a lot as a term.

I mean, our point of view is that a lot of mainstream or corporate media is framed or designed to frame things in a way that are inherently negative to Republicans are negative to conservatives and, you know, sort of positive to Democrats or positive to liberals. And look, look who works there. I mean, University of Syracuse did a study on this recently.

Most people who work in the media are Democrats. Very few are actually Republicans. And so there's a perception that there is no balance. Do you worry that you're making money for the liberal media? Because you're like the star of the show. You're driving ratings. Is there a conflict there inside of you?

A conflict? Yeah, because you're like, the liberal media benefits, like, you're making cash for them boys. I think they benefit when more Republicans turn it on. Right. And my job is, and my mission is, is to make it safe for conservatives again.

And I think we are. Everywhere I go, I have Republicans telling me, I haven't watched CNN in years, I'm watching it now. There are more Republican office holders who are willing to come on. Yeah, and that's good for them as the liberal media, no? It's good for the media. I'm not, this is a gotcha.

No, no, no, it's kind of interesting. I think it's good for the media in general when they aren't viewed as a wholly owned subsidiary of one political party. Do you think that CNN would give you a show ever? I have no idea. Have you asked. Come on, bro. You should have a show.

You're one of the biggest stars of the CNN. I have no idea. I'm grateful for what I have. Do they have a conservative show on CNN? No. No, because of the liberal meter. We do not. The liberal shmedia.

What would you qualify as your political project? Like, currently. What is the one thing that you're advocating for, that you want to see happen. That I want to see happen? Yeah, like, doubt. Well, look, I think we're not arguing about politics as usual anymore. I think there's a war on the future of the West.

I think Western civilization hangs in the balance. I think Elon is right about this. Who's fighting the West? The East? No, the West. The West is the civilization that has given us everything from the Bible to the university to the Constitution. But who's against the West?

Well, let's see. How about the terrorists in the Middle East? How about the people who think the United States of America was a rotten failed experiment needs to be ripped out root and branch? Who said it? How about people who believe that we should have mass migration from all over the world and no borders? Whose idea is that? The left right now. The left?

What's all over the world here? That is their project. Really? And also people who are... Do they say that? Do they say, we want everyone here in America? Yeah, pretty much that's what they run on. What do they say?

They say that in a debate. They say everyone's to come here. They have senators going to El Salvador to have my ties and Yatsi with MS-13 gangbangers that we deported. Yeah, that's pretty much what they run on. They go on vacation with MS-13? Yeah. I thought it's to look at that scary prison place where everyone has to sit on the floor. Did you not see the picture they're having margaritas?

They had a drink? Yes. Van Hollen having drinks with Kilmer-Abrego-Garcia. This is what they run on. Oh, the guy that got deported. Yeah, well, he's back now. He had a drink with him? Yes.

That's a weak one. bro. Dude, look it up. They're not having you drink. But you're not better prepared than this for Abby. You're going to get cooked. No, no. No, I'm not.

That's fine. Because you just, you just pivoted. No, that is a stretch. It's not a stretch. A guy had to drink with a guy that was deported. Yes. A senator, a U.S. Senator went to El Salvador on taxpayer money to show his fidelity with these illegal aliens.

That prison is really is a scary place. They weren't in the prison. They were at a dinner table. But you saw pictures of that prison is scary. Was it? I'm not saying that... It's not scary for me. I'm not saying about...

You think it's cool that prison? I think deporting illegal aliens is what the American people voted for last year. We're fighting ill-liberalism right now in the world. There is a whole bunch of people out there who have given up on speech, given up on debate, and they think politics should go beyond that. It's this illiberal undemocratic views. Who's given up on speech?

You just... I just think there is... I think there are people. people, actors in our politics, and I'm not saying it's fully confined to one side. But there's a lot of illiberalism out there when it comes to speech and debate. And it's one of the reasons I do the job that I do. You guys don't like free speech, either. We love free speech.

No, you guys, like, ban Harry Potter and shit. Did me? Yeah, you're like, it's too scary to have Harry Potter in the school. I love JK. You guys are trying to ban the person who wrote it. What do you mean you guys? I love Harry Potter. If you're going to.

I watch all those movies. Christmas which I celebrate now but you like jk. Rowling I don't care I don't think everything has to be politicized a lot of people on the internet do you guys do you guys do band like books and stuff like that yeah like books porn I think like a porn for children will be saying gay in a school you're not allowed to say or somebody who fucking cares I mean like cares about whether little school children get pornography in their library porno I mean who's got porno in libraries you'd be surprised. Scott, come on. Scott.

Brother. Scott, there's no porno in libraries. I know we got rid of it. What pornoes did they get rid of? Dude. Nalen Palin was in a school? What do you fucking... Scott, obviously that's like some fucking hysteria bullshit. I mean, yes, the Democrats are scolds these days and it's annoying, right? They are skulls.

But you're not, they're not like putting gangbangs in an elementary school. They might be. No, they're not. You might want to look into it. No, just be a grown-up for a second. I am. I'm trying to take a boy from the kids. kids to watch like porn hub it doesn't make sense no what what it makes it did you hear that is that a rumor is no I'm saying what are you trying to say like what there's that there's that there's hardcore sex in in schools that is coming from

the from Chuck Schumer he's like we have to put we have to put the most nasty stuff in kindergarten it's not that's not a real thing I'm not I don't know of Chuck Schumer has specifically opined upon doing the porn But there have been numerous documented instances. Where? In schools and school libraries all over the country. What is the porn that was in the school libraries all over the country? It's like, you're saying something, but I've just, just tell me.

Yeah. Just educate me. I mean, pornographic materials aimed at very young children. Which ones? Which ones? Do you want a list? Are you looking for weekend reading? Tell me one.

Tell me what. I just, I'm asking, because it doesn't sound right to me. I don't, I'm low information. But it sounds a little ridiculous that that's a real thing. It's like it's, there have been numerous documented instances of highly sexual, highly pornographic materials that have shown up in libraries where, you know, legitimately small children can access it. I have a problem with that. In a school. In a school, in a library.

That just doesn't sound right. I know. You could Google it. You have an iPad. No, you're just saying something that you're, I'm not. Scott, you're stalling because you have. You can't think of one. Well, I don't want to, I mean, I don't know what the names of it is.

You should know the names if you're making a claim. I should carry around the names of pornographic books. If you're saying that this is happening, you should say the thing. Okay. Just destroyed Scott once again, guys. Blooms are and rubble. I mean, I don't care. I mean, they should, yeah, they shouldn't look at porn.

So you agree with me? Yeah, you should do it like I did, you know, my day, where I had to go to the woods and find a magazine that my friend's older brother left there. In the woods? Yeah, that's what porn used to be before the iPad, before you can see anything. I don't think that's good, but I don't think it sounds like the Democrats are saying, let's put some nasty stuff in front of babies. It just sounds a little bit like not the real world.

Okay. You're welcome to believe that, but I think you're wrong. In your book, how much porno is in this thing? Zero. 50%. Yeah, 50% porn. And it's kind of like a Fabio romance novel. It's like I caught Donald's eye across the room

And here's there's something in there for everybody No matter what your kink is You'll find it in the pages What outfit if you wore on TV that you're most proud of? Most proud of? I wore a pilgrim hat on TV last Thanksgiving And that's that was your greatest movie? I was fairly proud of it

Oh yeah I was fairly proud of that And what did they say to you about that's a settler colonial style? They were initially surprised But it was live television so they couldn't stop me Oh, I also wore a Hulkomania t-shirt on Abby show one night That is cool And I'll tell you when I did it, when they appointed Rubio, Secretary of State. Little Marco, I called.

And I said, and I said, well, who are they going to appoint Senator? I wore my Hulk a man. Because he lived in Florida. I was like, we should have, I said he stands up to the Russians, and he stands up to the Iranians, like the Iron Sheik. We need Holkster in the Senate. So I was pushing Hulkster for Senate. Oh, I thought you meant Rubio stands up. He does, but he got pointed out, and so we had to put in a new senator.

And I wanted the Hulkster. I wish to Hulk Hulkega was the. I wish you brother I wish H.H. Brother was the was the president of the United States. I was in touch with his people about getting him on my radio show

and then he died. I was so, because I just started in July. Yeah. Man, I was, I disappointed. Have you ever read that tweet about Atlanta that he did? Atlanta?

Yeah. He's like, he just landed in hot Atlanta, brother, H.H. Hot Atlanta? Yeah, he didn't say a hot Atlanta. That's great. My man.

God. Is this all right? Thank you.