The Adam Friedland Show (Cumtown) - TAFS Unplugged: Kurt Vile

Episode Date: May 17, 2026

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Starting point is 00:09:14 Not that I don't live where I love, but it's better, but less people as well. Ladies and gentlemen, Kurt Vile, the new album, Philadelphia has been good to me. You can clap again if you want. How you doing? Good. You just played. It was phenomenal. I love, I'm excited to be here.
Starting point is 00:11:15 I'm only excited for this, to be honest. Really? Yeah. What do you have to do after this? No, nothing today, but I've been excited to come on the show. And I love your set. And I've, I always thought you were like the good kind of weird. so glad to be here.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Thank you. Yeah. Like geek chic kind of. Yeah. Yeah. I get that a lot. So yeah, I guess just first off, tell us about the new album. How do you feel?
Starting point is 00:11:37 I listened last night and I enjoyed it quite a bit. What is it out? Is it out? It is out. It's out. No, it's not out. May 29. May 29th.
Starting point is 00:11:47 May 29th? And is there any symbology behind that number? Numerology. No. You got the two, you got the nine, then you get 11. and then you get maids, it's five, and then you get 16? No.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Oh, no. I just... I'm always... So I listened to the album last night. It's like, it's got a lot of Neil, I feel like. Is that it safe to say? Neil, Neil, I've always got... There's always...
Starting point is 00:12:14 Are you a Neil guy? I'm Neil, yeah. Do you see them live? I saw it with Crazy Horse. Oh, this time? Oh, that was incredible. Yeah. I saw him in Philly.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Like, the day I got home from a tour, I saw him in Philly with Crazy Horse. Yeah. This last time with Crazy Horse. And then I was so, I was just scheming and scheming. And I was like, I got to see it again. So then I drove up to Massachusetts to see it again. It took some convincing because I'm a family man.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Yeah. I got two daughters and a wife and such. So you lied to them? No, I told them what I wanted to do, which was I got to go up. Yeah. I want to go up to Massachusetts where my tour manager is, so he can get me these record shelves so I can clean up my house so I can see Neil Young and Crazy Horse. Okay, fine, yeah, yeah. And that's what I did. And then a couple shows later. And your wife is like you've been rocking on the road. Exactly. You're so addicted to rock, you have to go rock more. I've been Massachusetts. And I'm so glad I did because Neil canceled, they cut that tour off like a couple shows later. So I saw that crazy horse twice.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Have you met the man? I met the man a few times, but only this last time. The last time I saw Neil was in Toronto. My buddy Travis from the Sades is an incredible guitar player. In fact, I was playing his guitar earlier when I was shredding. And he's buddies with Neil and Travis is the first person ever, even though one time I opened for Neil and they thought I was a crazy fan. They almost tackled me. Really?
Starting point is 00:13:49 But even though I opened the show. Because you're wearing Neil Young T-T-shirt, Neil Young hat. I jumped off the back of the stage to, like, give him actually a Sadie CD. I thought that was my end. I was like, you know. And this whole entourage of cool old guys were like, oh! And they, like, held up their arm, and they're going to check me like a hockey player. You got beat up by old guys.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Almost. And it was Leavon Helm. It was, like, yeah, no. It was Elliot Roberts, his O.G. manager almost tackled me. But anyway. So, yeah, anyway. Elliot Roger? Elliot Roberts was his.
Starting point is 00:14:22 never mind his manager he managed I think he started his career managing Johnny Mitchell yeah I was gonna guess that was a guess yeah I said it quicker that would have been a good guess yeah yeah but anyway yeah Travis was like he's the first person to be like Neil this is Kurt yeah he's played with you before everybody else is just like don't give this guy don't give this guy any in with Neil why what's the wrong with you you're a nice guy he's a you're in the business you should be I know This is a good connection.
Starting point is 00:14:53 My mom told me when I moved to New York, she's like, just, why don't you find Jerry Seinfeld's address? And you could knock on his door and say, I'm a young, I'm Jewish comedian. And I'm like, Mom, what are you talking about? I love that. Yeah, so I went to Epstein's mansion. I'm just.
Starting point is 00:15:11 That reminds, when you said that, it reminded me of, I wish we had that pedal to. Seinfeld pedal? Yeah, like Sarah Sherman's Seinfeld pedal, where she's like, Have you ever watched the video of the guy making it? It's also, it's a synthesizer. It's not bass.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Yeah, I would. You, did you know that? I'm just not surprised. That era, that early 90s. I thought a bass guitar. It's a slap style bass. That's true, it sounds like a slap style bass. That is actually, that's good information to know for sure.
Starting point is 00:15:44 But he, there's a video of him on YouTube doing it live to the show. Badoo, but it's like, and it's like, He did it every episode. I had like no idea. Yeah, yeah. What is that? It's like in the background, I was like, boop, boop, boop, boom, boom, brum, boom, boom.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Wow. The horns. You've noticed that. Yeah. That's a real professional right there. It's like when you've noticed the fucking, the uncomfortably numb, the symphonic part.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Incomfortably numb? Yeah. I felt like I was, I've been heard it a million times, and then you noticed that little symphonic track, and you're like, now I'm extra smart of music. How's that parko? Do, do, do, do the, and it's like, do do, do do, do, do, do.
Starting point is 00:16:39 You want to hear it, isolated? Yeah. It's so beautiful. Rick Beato does a video about it, and me and my friend, my girlfriend, and his girlfriend were both out of town, and instead of partying, we just went, and watched Rick Biato videos,
Starting point is 00:16:52 and we were like high-fiving each other to the Beato, why this song is great, on the comfortably enough. And then my girlfriend called me, and she's like, what do you do? I was like, I'm watching a YouTube video about Pink Floyd. She's like, I'd rather, that's, she's like, that's pathetic. I'd rather be dead.
Starting point is 00:17:09 You'd be cheating on me right now. Yeah, I'd rather be. Yeah, Pink, wait, keep, okay, so now I'm gonna find. So this is in the background, the whole time. We, how do you... Let's just talk about... Oh, no, this is...
Starting point is 00:17:28 This is not it. It's not it? Orchestra track, here it is. Yeah, so you get all those, I don't know what instrument that is to make the Seagull noise, but that's... I'm assuming that's the orchestra.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Oh yeah, so like as it goes... So it's like all those, like, dark... Hello! Hello! Is there anybody in there? Oh, yeah. Sure. Okay, and then goes...
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Starting point is 00:18:14 Fuck me like a cop. That's a great sex. One of my favorites. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they have sex in the kitchen. Yeah. In the departed? Yeah, Leo and his therapist.
Starting point is 00:18:26 And she's like, fuck me like a cop. Did she say that? Yeah. Wow. Which is like, a, if I, I just sit in therapy all the time, just be like, why can't? Never mind. Anyway, so let's get into it. So you saw Neil?
Starting point is 00:18:42 Wait, tell us about meeting. What do you say to you? Hey, man. He did sort of like that. Real cool, man. He never really, really, are the most. memorable time is like I told him I was like I've seen you a million times and This was the best by far when you played down by the river which was like a 30 minute version. I was like
Starting point is 00:19:07 You know he would like be messing with the crowd. He would be like You'd think he'd be jamming out the middle section forever the coolest space jams ever and then you'd think he was gonna go and sing the last verse and then he would come up to the mic finally and be like be on my side and then go back to outer space again just the first yeah so anyway I told him I was like this down by the river was the best I've seen you do I was like it was like you're underground as in if it was like organic but in outer space that you're in underground and outer space at the same time and then he just looked at me he was like oh yeah we can go to our space whenever we want and then he said it again we can go out of space whenever we want.
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Starting point is 00:20:14 I can't believe it. Are you, is Neil your number one guy? Neil, I love Bernie too, but. Bernie, I would say number one. But Neil, no, I love Bernie. but Neil, I like Neil better than Bernie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the hell is Bernie ever done?
Starting point is 00:20:29 I love Neil. Yeah, yeah. So wait, so did you record after those, like, how long have you been working on this album? Like, what went into it? Okay. I've been working on this album. I'd say, okay, I put out my last full-length album.
Starting point is 00:20:46 It's called Watch My Moves in 2022 on Verve Records. And this is my second full-length on Verve Records. New York Verve record. I'm proud to be label mates with the Velvet Underground and Stan Gets. Uh-huh. Yeah. And that's it, us three.
Starting point is 00:21:04 But anyway, honestly, I'd say ever since I turned that record in and it came out in 2022, when I'd get off the road, I'd be working on this record. But hardcore in the studio the last couple of years.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah. But yeah, it's half recorded in my basement, just like the previous album. And then also some in LA with my buddy, Rob Schnapf, who did a lot of my stuff. And Doug Easley, this really some of my favorite records in the 90s, like Silver Juice Starlight Walker and pavement, Wally Zowie, Sonic Youth Washing Machine.
Starting point is 00:21:41 We're all done at Doug Easley studio in Memphis. So I worked there. This is Doug Easley. No, that's me. That's Doug Easley. That's Rob Schnaf in LA. That's me. And then, yeah, my drummer Kyle records some in Athens, but that's how we do it.
Starting point is 00:21:59 We go on the road, come back and hit the studio. How collaborative is it? Well, it's collaborative in that people show up and can kind of figure out how they can play their parts. And figure it out as they go, I'll tell them if I don't like it. But I wrote the song. I don't care how much anybody. else puts into it I'm the songwriter yeah yeah that's fucking right that's fucking right don't forget it you fucking I mean everybody I mean anybody everyone makes their own rules but I
Starting point is 00:22:34 have you ever had a smart enough to make that rule a long time have you ever had a Bez in your band what a Bez like from happy oh I love the Bez yeah yeah have you just a guy that does tambourine and it's just is fun did you read his book yeah he wrote a book how it's called it's called Freaky Dancing he knows how to write the the freaky dancing at all funky dancing funky day yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah, he actually, he's Maracas, right? The one video I have out, yeah, he dances and he's their drug dealer and chemists. Yeah, he sells them drugs and he dances with Maracca's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:06 The video for Step On is priceless. He steals the show, Bez. He's the best, yeah. But the one video that came out for this album called Chance to Bleed, that's the first single, there's a, there's a, there's a person. in the video that's influenced by Bez, actually. It's my buddy... How'd I pull that on my ass?
Starting point is 00:23:29 Ethan Buckler from King Kong, the band King Kong. His first band was Slint, and he left Slint because he thought the production was really weird on the first record, so he started his own band. But anyway, he's the Bez in the Chance to Bleed video,
Starting point is 00:23:45 which is a really good video. Yeah. I should say. I wonder if Bez got paid like the other guys. It would have been annoying, actually, if I was like a synth player or a drummer and like I'm like he's doing it's easy right yeah well wait you do play though right what
Starting point is 00:24:01 do you play it's horror yeah shut up dude no I not well yeah but you're like making I like songs we talked about music on the phone I know dude and the first thing I ever said I'll send you a demo if you want I want to see the first hello my name is out of Friedland he's my demo CD yeah I was planning on the networking period after this thing dude I wanted to play it say play cool no no yeah I do yeah I play a little bit of whatever yeah that's cool I'm excited to hear you music so you have a song called hoagie a song called Wawa do you think that you think that George Harrison was writing about Wawa the gas the man that's fucking mind-blowing have you ever watched it have you ever have you
Starting point is 00:24:47 ever listened to beware of Abaco the demos from all things must pass Beware of Abaco? Yeah, it's like a bootleg, but it's all the demos of George and Phil Specter, who I need to find out more about. I just, can't wait to find out more about this guy, Phil Specter. I just found out about. That reminds me of, did you see the Get Back documentary? Yeah, it changed my life.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Heartbreaking, but also funny, like George literally playing the most beautiful songs like out of his pocket he's like everyone has choice when to and not to raise the voices it's you to the size and um they're so mean to him
Starting point is 00:25:34 Paul and John aren't even listening they're not even listening and then he's like and then George literally says he goes I don't care if you use it I'll just put it in me musical yeah he's just put it in me musical
Starting point is 00:25:51 it's like uh he's it's so crazy Because first of all, you forget how young they were. They were like 27 or something. Yeah. Yeah, and he's still the younger kid from school. He's still like, dude, you're a freshman. Shut up, dude. Shut up, freshman.
Starting point is 00:26:05 We're gonna fucking give you a swirly and pants to you. And he's like, yes or no, that was wrong. Okay, let me run that again. He was like, here comes the sun. I don't know. Okay, cut all that, okay. Did you ever saw everything? Paul McCartney says yesterday came to him in a dream.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Right. Did you ever have a song come to you in a dream? I did. Especially around the pandemic times. I definitely had really pretty ethereal songs in my head, and then I'd wake up and sing them into a recorder. But yeah, I never actually recorded that other side into my recorder either. I wonder if Enter Sandman came to them in a dream.
Starting point is 00:26:45 That would be cool. Yeah. I was talking about it before how Metallica is just baby. How about Spooky, scary dreams Goblins and ghouls. Did you like that documentary? Some kind of monster?
Starting point is 00:27:03 Yeah, so good. You do look a little Dave Mistaine a little bit. That's what people say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The therapy scene with Dave Mistaine where he's like, you hurt me. They're like all crying. It's amazing, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Actually, I got my manager, Reni, who's one of my best bros, but I gotta say, I think it was sometime we were on the road kind of high or whatever, and I was like, Randy, wasn't some kind of monster, the worst documentary you've ever seen in your life? And he, like, pause, he's like, no, he's like, those guys couldn't even talk to each other. And then they made this movie that got them back together, and they, like, crushed once again. And I was like, good point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:44 But I do remember when I first saw it, that it was so long, and it was cringy. But it was, the thing is, it's the first of cringy. It's the first of the cringy. Like, you have the audacity to get this therapist and, like, look, this, like, this sad in front of people. Yeah, for your, like, often Never Neverland songs, you're like, we need a therapist. This is too much pressure. But then it's like, I don't know, then it's... It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:28:14 It's one of the funniest movies I've ever seen in my life. That's what I mean, it aged really well. It ages great. Age well. Yeah, if you smoke a little, ooh. I actually, I can't smoke weed anymore. You can't? Can't about it.
Starting point is 00:28:26 No. So, I heard that you're, this is a list I have of your, of your influences going into this album, okay? Okay. Neil, John Prine, Terry Allen, Doom, DJ Screw, and the Avalenthes. Wow. Yeah. Does that sound like bullshit or is that correct? No, that's true.
Starting point is 00:28:45 They're all really good ones. Do you like the avalanches? You know them? Oh, my God. Since I loved you. It's really pretty. Do they have, they had a, they released another album, didn't they? There was just one, right?
Starting point is 00:29:01 I thought. There was just one. Yeah, yeah. And then it took them like 13 years or something to put out a follow-up. They're like Stanley Kubrick. Yeah. And then like people, cool guests like David Berman came out of hiding from Silver Jews to do like a spoken word thing. Did you know him?
Starting point is 00:29:17 I did. I mean I grew up influence like one of my number one he's one of my number ones too I was at in DC I was at their last concert at the black cat ever Wow yeah his grandma came out on stage that's so awesome yeah I mean the last album is the purple mountains is just devastating Yeah and and uh yeah you know that he he cut through like his lyrics and I guess his vocal timbre and like the production everything that he stood for he was like the effortless Bob Dylan or whatever of our generation. Yeah. And I would say you're more
Starting point is 00:29:54 more, I would say is you know. Well, yeah, David, I like we were pen pals a little bit like because I heard he was a fan of my song. Somebody told me he was a fan of my song, Society's my friend and then I wrote him and sure enough. Like an email though, right? I emailed him. And then he penned you? No,
Starting point is 00:30:16 we emailed. Oh, you were an actual You didn't spray perfume and kiss it, right? Not, not, I mean, cool if you were doing letters. But, yeah, I don't know. Then my family, I was with my wife and two daughters when they were younger, and at the end of a tour, we drove through Tennessee. And I visited David, and he was really sweet, and his wife at the time, Cassie. And he was really sweet. And yeah, I was so stoked for him with that record, when it came out, and I was going to plan to see him for sure.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Yeah. It's kind of like he's, the lyrics are like, so with that last one? He's like telling us. Yeah, well, I was like, I wish I should, I should have done it. I don't even know him, but I wish I did. I should have done something. I've got so sad. That is sad. Imagine that album coming out while you're going through a break album. Well, I certainly couldn't. I will say that's the, I don't, I can't listen to that record. I listen to Silver Jews a lot, but I, I haven't listened to that one since he passed.
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Starting point is 00:37:50 It seemed like you were around kind of when it was like a lot of the indie kind of moment the early the late aughts early mid-teen tens tens what do people call that decade? The 2010s when I was making music you mean? Yeah and then you were kind of part of that moment And then it seems like now like you're like do you feel like you're a survivor of that moment? You're still around. I imagine there were a ton of bands that just aren't around anymore. I guess, yeah, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Yeah, I feel I'm glad that I'm still doing it. I got no choice. It's what I'm going to do, but I do see these younger kids sometimes and I'm like, man, I paved the way for these fucking kids. Yeah, yeah. Makes me mad. Yeah. But, no, not really. But yeah, I'm, but then we were just talking about Neil Young.
Starting point is 00:38:45 They like, they like guitars again. Yeah, that's what they're saying. I thought it was maybe this EDM crap forever. I know. Even I was influential, like, there was a hot minute for a few years there where like, I wasn't hearing no guitars in my head either because there was all this Charlie XX and Caroline Polichick shit going. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:39:07 No, I'm just kidding. No, I like them a lot. I like it a lot. I love it. Yeah. You're a big Charlie fan. I do love it. She's one of your goats?
Starting point is 00:39:15 Oh, absolutely. Really? Absolutely. Who are your goats? That's a Mark Merritt-Saw question. Who are your guys, man? Oh, you're your guys, man. He was mad at me, by the way.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Why is he mad at you? He was, but Tom Sharpling squash the beef. Oh. Because on my old podcast, I think we were making fun of him laying down a solo on Instagram. Look at this. guy and I was like I was a mark like I was a child we hated everything I love you oh yeah Tom Sharpling I was like give me his phone number I was like I will make this right I was like I love
Starting point is 00:39:53 you sir Tom is the best Tom is the best Tom Sharpling is the goat he's the goat one of one of our goats that's funny because I was at Tom's wedding not that long ago and Tom Sharpley got married and it's one of my favorite things is to start applause I used to do it at school assemblies and stuff. And Mark Marron was there and I was with a friend who never met Mark Marin. I was on a show once. But I hadn't seen him in a long time. And he's like, oh my God, there's Mark Maron. There's Mark Maron. I was like, oh, yeah, it's true. And then he walked up to me in his suit. And the first thing he said was he,
Starting point is 00:40:26 What's up, genius? So that made me look cool in front of my friends. Well, everything's good. Mark Maron. I've invited you about 73 times on the show. show and now I'm officially announcing even though you have not agreed that Mark Maird will be on the ad of religion. No, I love him, dude. When I first, before I even started saying him, I was listening to his podcast. Wait, he was mad at you because you teased his jam? Because he saw, he heard a clip about us teasing his jam. And guess what? I wish I, I, I, I wish I the, yeah. You wish you didn't do it? I'm too shy to play my music. I love that. Honestly,
Starting point is 00:41:06 that's what I love music more than this whatever the fuck this is that made me like you because why I could do it that made me like you because the first one I saw was your Julian Casablanca's and then you fed him this song you fed him your song you made them listen to it while you let him make him listen to a demo
Starting point is 00:41:23 yeah and he was like that's intense man I'm like you could have said the best song ever I don't know why you're saying that's intense because everyone else has said the best song ever and probably you're a genius musician you don't need you don't need to be doing this demeaning yourself at him on YouTube you could be fucking I don't know
Starting point is 00:41:44 but uh Paul McCartney yeah have you ever met Paul McCartney no have you ever met John Lennett? No I don't know how I wish who it like a who are you're like I guess like heroes like they say never meet your heroes obviously yeah they say that right interactions have you had that like through music that you're like, whoa, beyond Neil? Beyond Neil? Like, because I signed Matador Records in 2009.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I was on that label till like 2020 or something. So a lot by nepotism, I got to meet the bands that I grew up on. But even so, like early on, my first Madador album called Childest Prodigy came out. And, like, Like it didn't like on the pitch in the pitchfork or whatever not that this matters, but they like they didn't get it
Starting point is 00:42:44 But like all my heroes it was their favorite record that year Jay Mascus from dinosaur junior invited me on tour Kim Gordon from Sonic Youth was her favorite album and Even people like I don't know Bradford Cox deer hunter it was his favorite album But anyway yeah people like that Steve Malcolm is for sure from pavement or Kim Gordon and Jay Mascus there's that's like the big three who are their friends of mine, you know. But I grew up dreaming of something like that. I'm trying to think of...
Starting point is 00:43:15 You know that rich... I'm a fanboy. Like every... Do you get nervous? I get nervous. Do you get nervous? I'm a fan boy no matter what. And like, that's how I always feel.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I always feel nervous to talk to somebody that's my hero. I have so many heroes. In that Neil's story, I'm like, this guy was shitting his pants. And Neil was like, what the fuck is? Yeah. I hope that we can... Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Yeah, yeah, it's scary to meet those guys. I'm nervous. I have a brunch I'm going to, and I heard that David Letterman might be on it. Oh. Yeah. What are you going to say to him? Anti-Semite. Is he?
Starting point is 00:43:56 I don't know. That's what came out when you. See, I'm going to fuck up. I don't know. That's the first thing that came out. What's wrong with why you're such an anti-Semite? So I guess like, do you feel like an elder statement these days? No, not really.
Starting point is 00:44:16 No? I'm glad. Because you look great. Really? Yeah, yeah. I mean, you look at your youthful statement. You look better. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:44:31 But thank you. No, honestly, I do look at my. Self we are like a look and I'm like gonna guys. You still look all right. Yeah, we still don't look as good as you used to per se Yeah fine how are you going to yeah, but we have her hair too, but I like the modern times. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, it's the modern times. I like playing music. I like I like I like playing to the crowds. I like yeah in a different way 10 or more plus years ago. I was a train wreck on stage like I like I elusive to technology. So I feel like this is sort of my Neil Young moment. I know we keep talking about Neil,
Starting point is 00:45:15 but if you see him live now with Crazy Horse, it's just like then. In another way, it's like more intense. There's something about it where he's still going hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm excited about live music. Bob Dylan is still touring and he's, I don't know if you see him recently, but he's locked in.
Starting point is 00:45:31 He's locked in. Yeah. It's really actually like, I wonder it's like why, you know, I guess like why those guys are doing because they're fucking old. They gotta be. No offense. I mean, they're friends,
Starting point is 00:45:43 but they're old as fuck, you know, like they're nasty looking. No, but it makes me sick how old. No, but no, in reality,
Starting point is 00:45:52 it's like these guys are like, you know, fucking Bob's over 80. Yeah. Yeah. And I think we go, thinking about like your interaction with Neil is like, I think that that's like a place,
Starting point is 00:46:03 like their whole, like Bob Dylanill's his whole life. Like everyone's trying to have, has walked up. to him and try to say the dopest thing they've ever said and they just walked away and they're like fucking pussy you know and it's like it has to be so lonely like lonely at the end of the day right and I think that like maybe they're just like on stage it's a time where uh they just like you know they're like this this is something that I feel like I could do me in a way it's comfortable
Starting point is 00:46:32 I think I think that's exactly right yeah like that's their moment suck dude Do young bulls walk up to you and they're like, you know, the third album? Yeah. Do they do that? Yeah, your past is your own worst enemy is. That's another Neil Young quote. Like he puts out, he puts out, he puts out, he puts out like all these classic records and then he puts out this new record and it sounds different than the old stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:02 And otherwise comparing it to the old stuff. Going back to this. Yeah, go ahead, sir. Your past is your own worst enemy. Oh, sick of the shit. Yeah. Going back to the Sharpling, that, you know, rock rule.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Yeah. Where you say that he's only into the 80s? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's only into 80s, Neil. Such a good joke. Yeah. Only the, but the rest, I can take or leave, but the 80s stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Yeah. Which was a real shit. It was a total turds, Neil. What were you going? And were you, you became a robot for a decade. A rockabilly robot? I still like it. No one's laughing and I feel mean.
Starting point is 00:47:45 I love you. I love you. Yeah, I guess, let's talk about Philly. Okay. So, yeah, I guess that, you know, you're a, do you feel like you're Philly's guy? I am. I am Philly's guy. You're Philly's guy.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I'm not the only one, but I've been. You're more than Bradley Cooper, would you say? Yes. More than Shane Gillis? He's not even from Harrisburg. First of all, I don't think they're in Philly, and I am. Yeah, that's true. That's part of it.
Starting point is 00:48:15 I'm holding it down in Philly. And I wanted to, even in my first album, it was called a constant hitmaker, but it's that short for Philly's constant hitmaker. So I've been holding Philly down since, I guess, the early aughts when I, in 2003, I put out my first CDR under my own. name. But I just wanted to put it in writing. And also there's a title track on here. You know, Philly's been good to me, which is a nod to a Tom Petty song, which is California has been good to be. Yeah. But anyway, I wanted to call it out. Have you ever gotten 12 o'clock on a motorcycle?
Starting point is 00:48:56 What's that? Like Papa Wheely? No. He's not Philly at all, dude. He knows nothing about Philly? Yeah, that's Philly, dude. Going 12 o'clock? Oh, like those, those, like the kids. Like the kids, yeah. Oh, that's intense. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:10 I remember. Did you lick poop after the Eagles won the Super Bowl? No, I don't care about that. This guy's trying to act like he's Benjamin Franklin. He's trying to be. He thinks he, Benjamin Franklin. Yeah. I don't know why I said it that way.
Starting point is 00:49:24 I like it. No, yeah. I mean, I guess you, you take shots at Bruce, though. right you have bars that there you well yeah Bruce I love Bruce you better be covered and very careful after this Kendrick Drake thing the other yeah here I've covered a few Bruce Springsteen songs in my day and record them but he he's got the song called Philadelphia and then Neil Young's got the song City of Brotherly Love but they're both on the soundtrack to the movie Philadelphia you should but even so
Starting point is 00:49:55 because that you would have been young actually I would have been young yeah yeah but and also the chicken man The chicken man. Yeah, they blew up the chicken man in Philly last. Was that a real guy? Yeah, some mobster. Yeah, yeah. Aphiliate.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Wait, so you think that because Bruce Springsteen was born, I mean, it's not his parents lived there. He was born in New Jersey. Right. He has no right to have Philly's name in his motherfucking mouth. Well, I mean, it's kind of arbitrary. I didn't say it's no right. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:28 But I'm really from there. And it's offensive. So I can sing about Philly and Mean It. That's all. So the streets of Philadelphia is hurt when you heard that song. No, I like it. Yeah. In the moment when I wrote those lyrics, I was thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:50:42 You know Denzel Washington and Tom Hanks also are not from Philadelphia. How do you feel about that? You know what that reminds me of? That reminds me of when I was younger, I was working at Philadelphia Brewing Company and this kid. This kid, my hair was like long and shaggy, and then I got it cut. way too short and this kid got it got on my nerves and I was the weekend and I wouldn't even even seen him but then I saw him at a party and he took one look at me no it was the weekend so we weren't at work oh I got my hair cut and I was
Starting point is 00:51:13 all like shy maybe a little stoned and I was like fuck I got this bad haircut and then I took one look at this guy and he saw me and he took one look at me and he said you look just like Tom Hanks I was so pissed you kind of do look like Tom Hanks I know with short hair wow and you look like Dave Mastain with long hair? I guess. Go, what a false modesty. You look like the two most handsome guys on earth. Yeah, but neither of those people I want to look like,
Starting point is 00:51:41 to be honest. Really? I'll be, yeah, yeah. People say I look like Mick Jagger is really annoying. You look like Mick Jagger. Yeah, I get it all the time. I'm like, I'm just doing me, dude. I'm not trying to do him. I could see that. Really?
Starting point is 00:51:54 Did you make that up? I've been going for it for a while. And I finally got it. Got it? Under my thumb. Do you like Stones? Yeah, of course. Best.
Starting point is 00:52:07 In fact, yeah, like what I said, I called myself Philly's constant hitmaker. I stole that from the Stones' album, England's newest hitmaker. Oh. So, guys, May 29th. Go get the album. It's got a gatefold.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Yep. Yeah. Listen, guys, you get two, Listen, I know you're gonna like see this in the record store, you're gonna be like, oh, I don't wanna buy one vinyl. That's such a rip-off. You got two, folks. Yep.
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