The Adam Friedland Show (Cumtown) - TIM HEIDECKER Talks Contrarian Comedy, Sincerity, and Playing the Long Game

Episode Date: May 23, 2026

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when you moved to Hollywood? Get a bunch of rings and stuff? No. No. I don't have, do you have any tattoos? No, thank God. Piercings? I had an earring.

Oh, you did? Yeah, but I took it out one night. I could see the remnants of it. Very embarrassing. Ladies and gentlemen, this next guest is a legendary comedian, director, filmmaker. He's the host of On Cinema and Offus.

hours, please welcome Tim Hydecker, everyone. You? Yeah. Myrtle plays. Yeah. It's my friends. Yeah. We're very, very excited to have you here.

Your clapper guy said on, as you passed me, he says, good luck. He said that? Yeah. I thought that's not. He's an intern. What is he saying? Talk like that. Good luck.

He just got out of New York University of this kid. He's got a big future ahead of him. Sure. He's a good guy. Stay on his good side. I feel like I import too much wisdom since Zach started. And it feels, I hope he feels genuine to him. Well, good luck.

I guess so. Yeah, Tim, I told you this on the phone, but 12 years ago, you were in DC. Yeah. I was, I was like nauseously nervous. And you ended up coming back to our, me and my ex-girlfriend's apartment, we hung out after the Comedy Bang Bang Live show. With James Adomian.

With James Adomian, who performed. I had like a DIY venue in D.C., so he performed there before. Yeah, you told me that. I don't remember it, but. It was a, I don't know, I was like, I've only acted like that twice around people, and it was you and Dice. I was like fumbling over my words when I met him. I was like, it's him.

It was an odd move for me to go to, this would have been 12 years ago, to go to an apartment after a show. I was 14 years old at the time. Yeah, see. We smoke crack. I bought you guys beer, right? Yeah, you bought us beer. Yeah, and Wippets.

Yeah, no, I was living with my ex-girlfriend who's at that time receiving DJing lessons for my best friend, and they are married. Cool. Yeah, yeah, pretty good. They fell in love behind the ones and twos. So you grew up watching, you were a fan of what I was doing. I was a big fan.

I was a big fan. And, like, you know, I wasn't like a celebrity yet, so I didn't know how to be around. And how was I, was I decent with you? You were so down to earth. You did take a cigarette out of my mouth and said that it's for trashy people. I did not really? Yeah, and you're like, promise me you won't ever smoke again.

Oh, that's so funny. And I think I said, I promised, I promised. I was a real zealot with that back because I just quit. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, I was a real staunch anti-cigarette guy. Yeah, yeah. Now I sneak one every once in a while. Yeah, yeah.

You're like a reformed sinner. I'm at the, at the wedding or whatever, I'll have one. Who's wedding? Anybody's. I go to so many weddings. Just comedy and magic at weddings now. Just to rip things. Yeah.

I've done a lot of magic at weddings. Yeah. I just found out that like our Indian friend from college, I wasn't close enough to get the invite, but you get to wear like the outside. It's like the one time you're allowed to culturally appropriate if you're the white guy at your Indian friend's wedding. Well, I'm culturally appropriating my own culture today, but it's from a different era. different era what is that is all Amazon Amazon really yeah I'd like Blake Griffin on the show and he's he's doing the NBA like team like studio team

for Amazon and I asked him if he thought that the workers were paid enough at the at the factories and he's doing oh well that's I mean yeah please call it out when you can yeah let's let's be honest about our hypocrisies I don't know Bezos is the one billionaire I respect. People lump him in with the rest, but I just like the fact that he's still Miami guy. He's a good-looking guy. He just looks insane.

Yeah, his girlfriend is so Miami. Yeah. He's real trash. Yeah. I mean, all due respect. I don't know. I wonder how much. He's tight, I should say.

His body is tight. He's kind of got a roguies thing, but actually like kind of more appropriate for the size. I try to, I mean, should I get big and like, big and muscley? You want to start going on steroids with me? Well, I start, I go to, I do go to the gym and I lift weights and stuff, because they say when you get, I'm almost 50 and they say you got to do that for long, longevity and everything. Absolutely no impact.

Like, I don't see any, I don't, I'm still, I'm seeing it right now. Lumpy and fat. You look phenomenal. I look sick. You and Eric, I don't want to talk about the way I look, by the way. Well, network said they, they were. I want you to lose 200 pounds before we air this. Who did?

The network. Oh, yeah. The same and the most odd, actually. People think right now that I'm getting paid by the DNC. Like, they think that I'm the one they chose. You're a shill. Yeah, I haven't gotten a call yet. I wish you would stick to comedy, too, because funny boy.

No, I want money at this point. I just want money at this point. Well, you're not on the social media? I have it, yeah, but I try not to. and stuff. I've been looking. Yeah. I do post a lot about all sorts of stuff and when I do, obviously when I do post about politics, which I'm just a guy who has opinions about the world I live in. Yeah. And people get very upset and say, you should be, you should stick to comedy. That's, I get that every time. And I'm wondering if that's now just a, uh, shut up and dribble. They're saying. Yeah, yeah. If that's now just like an AI, a bot. Is that a bot? Can we? Can we? figure out if they're bots or those people out there who really feel that way? No, those are the critics. Yeah, those are like guys at the Times, those are like, those are smart guys that are

doing that. I like his fake talk show laugh for that shit joke that I just have. It is, should I punch it up for you? Yeah, go ahead. Let's do another take of my laugh. Okay. Just keep it clean. Well, those guys are probably college professors.

Yeah. I do wonder that though because like like I just did News Nation with Chris Cuomo you sent me the clip I've never seen anybody so quickly send somebody else a clip with their own talk short it was the next day it was the next day we were talking about it when I was there I say you the picture of me and Geraldo yeah you send me a picture you and Odin crew I know we're both trying to impress each other calm down you say we have 10 minutes No, no, no, lock the door, please.

I'm just going to play to my five guys now. Lock the gates. Well, they're sucking up to you, and they're like they have no respect for me. Caleb said put on my suit in an aggressive manner. Can we just step back a second, talk about my outfit, because I feel like I started telling you, and then we went on Amazon, and we went all over the place. Yeah, let's talk more about you.

It's just an interview with you. Anyway, I lost. Who are you wearing? I'm here in New York for this premiere at the Tribeca. film festival and I get very uptight about what to wear to these things and all the guy everybody look everybody I don't look I don't I have issues with like when I try to dress up I look stupid in my opinion but it's a power move to look crap well what I did was good yeah that's the other thing I could go in like a

t-shirt yeah people like that guy's a wild card that has a real chain maniac yeah baseball cap style yeah big white shirt yeah fake muzzle see white shirt but then so I looked on the internet and looked at Tribeca Film I just typed in Tribeca Film Festival you know images and one of the first ones that came up was this Jerry Lewis picture from like five ten like two minutes before he died two minutes before he died really the hospital him with Robert De Niro they must have been doing like a king of comedy yeah retrospective or something and this was what he was wearing

essentially really and so I had my friend track it down and get me I mean, I have this girl that does costumes for us. And so I'm going to wear this on the red carpet. So this is my little... Are you to meet Bob? Bobby Dee? Bobby Dee. Bobby Deed, Bob Dylan.

Well, those are the two best ones, I guess. I don't know. I don't know how that works. I've been to the Tribeca Film Festival before, and he's never, he's never, I've never met him before. So I doubt it. What would you say? Let's practice your first line, your opening line. Okay.

Oh! There he is. Everyone does that to him all the time. Everyone does that to him all the time. I would say Mr. De Niro, pleasure to meet you. Yeah, that's good. He's, you know, what a guy, what an actor. I've got nipples too, Greg.

Can you milk, yeah, that'd be good. He'd like that, meet the Fockers. Imagine the moment they said, we're doing this. Their last name is Focker. It's, we're, no, I don't care what the fucking studio says. I watched, uh, parents and Foggers. You can't say Fokker. It's F-O-C-K-R.

O-C-K-R, yes we can. His name is Gay Lord Fawker. You can't make comedy anymore. No. That's just, that's just, you know, the freaking, you know, Democrats, I guess. I don't know about that. They took it away. I think it's the Democrat.

I think it's Pelosi. He's a little cringy when he gets into the Trump stuff. De Niro? I think, yeah. I've also heard he's not like, well. Yeah, he said fuck Trump, the first, the first. He gets real, he's real tight. He said, fuck Trump.

And then there were all these videos of guys on Staten Island, like smashing like a portraits that they had in their house so mad about I had a lot of respect for you when I lost it and they you know they have like those posters airbrush paintings with Pacino De Niro Gandolphini if I could be on one of those that would be incredible I'm going back to you yeah let's get back to okay so like what do you make of the common accusation that you and Eric just stole Sarah Sherman's whole act I've never heard that one before I believe I believe you were at the Laugh Factory, Joe Rogan brought Sarah Sherman up on stage.

This was 2004? Yeah, 2004. This was the day before Mencia. I think the Mencia one took all the headlines, but... Right. And then her vagina exploded. You were like, that's a good idea. We should put this on adults.

Yeah, Eric and I were club comics. Yeah. And we were just doing kind of like airline stuff and vegetarians. Are wimpy people. people. That was one of my big, you remember that bit I used to do, vegetarians or wimpy people? I remember Sarah Sherman doing that. No, no. What I'm saying is Sarah Sherman was doing weird cable access kind of things. She was 10, I think, at the time. Yeah. The youngest comic at the comic strip, but I love Sarah. We produced some kind of, some pilot for her before Lauren got his

claws in her. Lauren, that's right. Lauren Bobert. Lauren Paulberg. Yeah. I love pretending that he's a woman when I talk to my friends about him. You know, like this Lauren running SNL, she's got to go. Yeah. I want to fuck this shit out of Lauren. I'm sorry.

I don't know why I went there. This guy's a father. Did you read for, you auditioned for SNL? No. No. Okay. But can I tell you something? Yeah.

It would have been so cool. I would have bombed. Yeah. I'm so nervous. I still like have a, it is still cool. Seems like the, the evidence to me seems like the bar can be low, though. Like if you're auditioning and you just have it at the moment, you're just like, I'm the ketchup guy. And then you hear that what you did? Is that what you did? That's what you did? I got all the way up and then like, you had an audition for Esno. It was between me and Catan. Really? Mm-hmm. And he was like, the ketchup guy. I had the ketchup guy. I just watched

If you want ketchup. I watched Korky Romano recently. Yeah. Phenomenal. Is it? He broke his neck on S&L. Do you know that? No, I didn't know that.

Chris Katan did, yeah. What happened? Everyone hates him from that error, right? I don't know about that. He's a coke liar. He's a cocaine liar. I don't know about that, but, and I don't know him, but I just, you can look it up. What is it they do?

What does PPD always do? Chat GPD. Oh yeah. What's your name again? Jonah. Jonah, Jonah, look it up. Look it up. Chris couldambuque's neck.

Look it up. What do you do? He was doing magna, doing a pratfall, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Died. He's dead. He was killed. Oh my God.

I forgot how funny the other characters in that movie are. Because it's like. Horky Romano. Yeah, he has a brother whose whole character is that he's illiterate. He doesn't know how to read. And the other one, his entire character is that he's gay, but he doesn't realize it.

Oh. And it's like that. He's these characters? Those are, no, well, those are the, yeah, like it's really just deep stuff, but incredible. But he was actually very kinetic and physical and like, yeah. But you called him a cocaine liar, right? I did not. You did. I thought that's what the, he did, right?

Yes, yes. He claims he broke his neck. Oh, yeah. That's an out sketch called MSNBC Investigates in May 2001. He stated that the injury almost paralyzed him and led to a struggle with drug addiction and career setbacks. He did snizz because he broke his neck. This, yeah. Yeah, and career setbacks.

This is famous. I'm sure, I mean, if you don't want to include this because everyone knows this already, it's fine with me. But I'm sure everyone knows the story about Dana Carvey shooting Master of Disguise. I think it's not true. On 9-11 and he was in that turtle costume. I think it's not true. Let's just pretend. It is the best thing.

It has to be true. It's like when my dad, my dad said, like, if the moon landing wasn't real, he's like, it just has to be real. It's like it meant so much to me. Yeah. Yeah. Him being in the turtle suit during... But it's been debunked? I think it has been debunked.

It broke my fucking heart when I heard that. I just, yeah, turtled, turtile, yeah, that unreal. Yeah. Take a moment of silence in the turtle suit. I mean, that had to have been, it has to be real. I mean, who would have made that up? Probably Chris Tent, Coke liar. Yeah, well, or Mike Myers might have planted it, but, because those guys were

feuding but really yeah I mean maybe it's one of those things where it's like well we were shooting that day but I was already I hadn't gotten into costume yet you know could be one of those like sort of true but not not as good as we want it to be yeah yeah you're from allentown Pennsylvania yeah you want to do comedy as a kid or no yeah yeah yeah what like who what did you what did you see when you were a kid that you like I mean from the beginning like like Abin and Costello, no, I'm not joking. If you wanted a real answer, it's hard to not joke around.

I don't have the Criterion collection. Abon and Costello meet Frankenstein's, great movie. Is it? It is a fun move. It's really, it's good. It is really funny. I actually just recently saw Chaplin for the first time, because I was like, there's no way that's funny. Yeah.

And it's funny. He is really funny. He's good at it. He's good at what he's doing. It sounds like it's from the olden days, and it shouldn't be funny. I watched recently, very recently, Sherlock, Junior, which is the Buster Keaton, a Buster Keaton movie. Yeah. And that's also, like, unbelievable.

Not necessarily funny, but, like, he's doing stunts and, you know, elaborate jumping off of trains and, like, Mission Impossible kind of stuff. Yeah, the clock thing, right? That's not, that's Harold Lloyd, I think. Oh, sorry. I mean, there's a repeat of dancing. like a million things, but definitely Weird Al Yankovic, Yankovic, Yankovic, Yankovic, Weird Al. S&L, kids in the hall, Monty Python, you know, in my high school days, spinal tap, anything I can get my hands on. There wasn't that much, there was not, you know, I didn't have the internet

the way we do now. And so I was just, whatever was, there was no like underground comedy that I was watching, you know? Well, I was talking with Caleb before the show. It's, like, interesting that, like, Steve Martin was, like, selling out Madison Square Garden, and, like, Andy Kaufman was, like, huge. Yeah, he was on, I mean, those things nowadays, I wonder if they could be mainstream nowadays. Like, what was it about, like, that era where, like, something so left field could be, like, so, I don't know, embraced, like, in the mainstream sense?

Steve Martin and Andy Kaufman are very similar. I think Steve Martin's way more palatable. He kind of did a lot of the same things, but did it a little broader. And not in a bad way, just is what it is. But I think my opinion is there was not that many outlets, so people were watching what everybody. Everybody's kind of watching the same thing. But it's weird shit, though.

It is really weird. Especially be the first guy to be, to be, like, doing weird shit like that. Because Kaufman is kind of like emulated so many times now, but it was kind of the first guy. Yeah. Right? There were a few very, like, brazen, artistic-minded producer types that pushed for that stuff. I got to give credit to our friend Lauren Michaels. He was early, early adopter of Andy Kaufman.

Yeah, I mean, say what you will, but it's true. He was the first host of SNL, right? Andy Kaufman? Wasn't? No, it was George Carlin. But he was on the first episode. I'm writing a book about the first year of, the first episode of SNL. It's so bad.

I'm actually writing a movie about the first episode of SNL. It all takes place that one night. But my other point was that they were baby boomers playing, They were the first generation to have grown up on watching television, and they were sort of the first guys that were making fun of television, or making fun of entertainment, being like postmodern about it, and that made sense to a lot of my parents' generation. They understood how they grew up with the pretense of the phoniness of show business,

and it hit right at the peak of that, and there were a couple guys like Steve Martin, Andy Kaufman, until and Albert Brooks's talk show appearances. Have you seen those? He's the second host of SNL, second episode. No, he was, he made films for SNL. Yeah, no, but I hosted. Albert was like incredible as a guy.

I mean, he did like a norm thing too, right? It was like high concept. Yes, high, very written. He did like the ventriloquist thing. Have you ever seen the ventriloquist? Of course, yeah. He's the best. He's the best.

We just in the office, watch the Gary Marshall scene in Lost in America to take a break. Yeah. I wish, I'm not the kind of guy that, like, I'm doing this lately, like the Jordan Peterson thing when I close my eyes to try to remember. Trans people don't exist. Yeah, yeah.

But it is helping me these days, but I'm not the kind of guy that memorizes stuff, but I would memorize, I would like to have that scene just fully memorized. Yeah. And be able to just tell my children, act it out. It's kind of like one of the best, like, one of the best like see yes in any movie like the desert in his heart right the desert i was saying i was saying that i just hate that song that i do i always remember it's not a good

song he's like i'll write a jingle for you i can't give you money back you're a nice guy you've amused me but he's unreal it's the best he's unreal speaking of gary marshall i mean we should just acknowledge who i sat in front of last night at penny marshal at the glen gary glen ross who is that Arthur Fonsorelli. No shit. The Fons. Tiny, right? Like 5 foot 1?

Yes. I saw a Scorsese once and also just 5 foot 1 and just dressed so slick. And I was like, that's the coolest guy I've ever seen my life. I felt very, well, it's funny you mention the height because I, we were fairly close. I saw Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross on Broadway. All right? It's a big deal. Check it out.

Let's get applause, maybe. I saw the play in a lot of ways. And so Fonz, he was doing. If we're talking about my background, the guy that we sent a videotape to was Bob. Bob Oden Kirk. And Bob, to this day, is still someone very close to me. I'm just being honest with you. He was my mentor.

He was almost like an uncle figure or father figure to me. and still very close and it was very moving to get to see him in this play. Like he was so good and everything about it was so good and I was there as his guest which was quite an honor. But the theater was, sorry, these wonderful seats, fairly close, but the stage itself was fairly low. And these were not stadium seats.

I promise you, I'm going somewhere. So you're blocking fawns. So I'm blocking the fawns. So I'm blocking the Fonz. But there's a guy in front of me who's bigger head than me, higher up. And so my view is blocked. And so I'm trying to find this medium where I'm not out of respect. Out of respect for, oh, hey, Fonzie.

And he was, by the way, he was very nice. Do you Matt Winkler? Well, I did a movie with his son. I was in the way, his son directed. So that was my inn. Oh, really? turned around I said and people were coming up to him and stuff and yeah I was trying to be respectful but I said I did a movie with Max and he goes I did this movie called

Flower he goes of course you did and then he was so sweet and then we just we got a long rule he wanted to know about me and we talked for a while and you you hung out all night we went backstage you went back to your to your DIY apartment I don't want people to say things about me about I'm this elitist and everything but there are moments that you have in life where you it's neat to be in this business show yeah yeah and I mean I grew up I don't know about you I'm watching the Fonz every week no this is my generation it's your generation I was watching I was watching the news wolf blue three I was watching no you're watching I was watching the OJ trial

Iraq getting bombed in the 91 I remember the OJ trial as a kid That was like one of the first things I remembered, because my dad was like the only white man in America who was convinced he was innocent. Really? Yeah, I think he was projecting his own life onto the trial. Was your dad in your dad, you're from D.C. was your favorite? No, no, I'm from Las Vegas, actually. I was born in L.A. and then we moved to Vegas. The Desert Inn has heart.

It's such a bad song. It's terrible. Well, he's desperate. He's in his robe. He's not, the first idea is not going to be the best. idea in that situation. Yeah, it kind of works actually if that's the reading of it. I just always, it was always just like stop that you could make up a better song, Albert Einstein. I like it. I don't have a problem with it. I'm not with you on that one. I look. I mean,

those movies are so good. Real life is so good. I mean, this is like, lost it. I want to say fairly early, maybe high school, but lost in America was a movie that we'd want. My parents had great taste in comedy, so there's lots of those movies on. And my cousin and I used to watch that Lost in America and the scene where he's the crossing guard. Yeah. And the kids are riding their bikes around him and calling him a brillo pad fathead. Yeah, yeah. We just would, we'd say brillo pad fathead all the time.

Just like. That made its way into the lexicon. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And you bullied a lot of kids growing up? Did I bully a lot of kids? Not that I recall. Were you popular kid?

A little respect. Let's get some WD-40 on that door. I was at the gym this morning at the hotel and they have the peloton there. Yeah. And it was doing that. Did you complain in the front desk? I thought about saying, not complaining, but letting them know. It seemed like no one is going to do anything about this.

It's too squeaky. Yeah. And it's a small room. It's just like, even with my headphones on, I just see it. It sounds like kind of a sex, sexual, sex, sex vibe. Was I popular in high school? Yeah. Not, yeah, I was, I had a morning, no joke had like a closed circuit TV morning show in high school.

Really? Yeah, in my last year of high school. It was like two years of that, yeah. So you kind of been doing that thing for a yeah? Yeah. We did like a wacky morning news show that was in everyone, everyone's classroom every morning. And they let you do it? They did.

Do you get in trouble at all? I don't remember getting in trouble at all. trouble. We probably did or we probably got told to not do things. I have a pretty bad memory about that stuff. But where I grew up in Allentown, it was I went to Catholic school and not very diverse. Not a lot of other types of people around in Allentown in the 90s. And I went to Temple University in Philadelphia, which is very diverse, lots of different kinds of people and quickly became really good friends with a guy named Jared Alterman. who's Jewish and when we came I came took him home to meet my parents I don't know I

didn't take him home to meet my parents did your dad show show his gun came back with me and he was like hi I'm Jared I'm Tim's Jewish friend I'm like his first Jewish friend really what your parents say P you he was he had to take he had to get fumigated and everything before he came in the house yeah it's kind of a Borat style family no they were they didn't they thought it was funny but that was kind of the environment I grew up in pretty monocultory. Did Billy Joel get it right in the song? Well, I think Billy Joel got it pretty close, but it should have been called Bethlehem, which is the city next to Allentown. Really? People don't say that. You know it's called Baba O. Riley, actually?

Baba O. That song? Yeah, of course I know that. And do you know why? So do you think that the... Because Boba Pete Townsend was into this child pornography No, he's into this guru named Baba something Baby Baby?

Baby? It wasn't O'Reilly. Baby O'Reilly? What? The Bhagwan? No, it was just Baba. Baguan?

Sure. Baby. For the sake of that. So you went to college with Eric? Yes. And then

it was film school? Then post-grad, med school, and we also went to law school. You're a lawyer and a doctor? Yeah. Wow. And so then what led you into Sarah's worm style, to copying our, no.

Yeah, I just, I feel like, especially growing up with your guy's stuff, it's just been replicated so much. As an aesthetic, and I know that you directed a lot of commercials that kind of like were in the leg, language of Tim and Eric. Yeah.

Did you do the Old Spice commercials? Well, we did one of them. I don't think we did the one with Terry Cruz. His breasts. Did you have him do the boob thing? I don't, I kind of feel like they're, like when you do commercials, you have this, these ad agency types with, uh, that was such a weird sip. Well, because it's dripping and this, I just got this suit.

Look at all these drips. I know. I was earlier today I walked around and got my hair cut by the way I don't know if you noticed in the suit no in a white t-shirt and I got a coffee and it was just like I had dribbles all down this white shirt it was like can't there were girls there huh there were girls looking at everything probably yeah it's fucking embarrassing man but when these commercials you have these ad guys who kind of tell who kind of write everything and most like we're there for like 10 for 10% of the juzh you know of like the little extra push yeah I was a and getting it done just kind of like facilitating the production of the whole thing so I don't take a lot of like pride or ownership over any of that stuff but the aesthetic kind of bled itself into like the kind of zeitgeist yeah I mean like we were doing that on our own with and I should always say like I always make

make clear that when we say Tim and Eric or me or Eric and I think it's really us and like Doug Doug and John Chrysle Ben Berman Jonathan Mewskiy like small group of people that we were that were doing a lot of this work as well it's also very editing heavy yeah I mean like that's kind of like a half I was very say half of the equation I was barely a part of what we when we said you just showed up just I'm hired a hired gun yeah I heard anybody I heard you were whacked out on I was on a lot of Keto at that time you're on Keto a lot of Keto yeah really really

Oh, I saw this great clip on, I was watching an old movie on the plane. Rat Race? No, it was Armageddon. Oh. I was really watching Armageddon. I love that movie. It's really good. Criterion collection.

I don't know if it is. It is. Not Armageddon time. No, chat GPT is that? I know. I don't need a check. Grok? It is?

Okay, good. By the way. By the way. That's my PPD. By the way. We got to chill with him, dude. We got to get. get on that show. Go down to Casa.

It's Palm Beach, right? No, but there's a restaurant that he, this great YouTube guy, R.M. Brown, did this video about all the time he goes to this one restaurant called Casa DiAngelo. He goes, we were at last night. There's no joke. 11 of us at Casa DiAngelo, we had a great time, great meal, great steaks. He goes to one restaurant. He has a compilation of all the times. It's so funny. Oh, you're watching Armageddon. And they say, like, there's this, like,

where all the guys were having to get physicals before they go into space. Yeah. And he's like, this one guy was on, he had ketamine in his system, and it seemed like you could take that meme together something of Elon, you know what I mean? Jonah.

Let's get on that. That'd be funny. Blow up the internet. That'd be really funny. Do you think that, like, what's the, what replication of that your guy's style or aesthetic has bothered you? the most what's the worst kind of effect like attempt at at the timid Eric

adult swim kind of language talk I don't know I don't say the worst one you know it I don't think I know of anyone do you have one of me of well does anyone anyone ripping you off yet I don't it's kind I hope so I don't know I can't I'm nothing's coming to me right now yeah yeah I don't know are there post Adams Adams? Probably not. I'm sure there are, listen, I'll be honest with you, I'm sure there are, there's just nothing coming to mind. I don't really, there are a few specific jokes that maybe like, I'll tell you one. Sarah's Sherman. Sarah Sherman is way over the line. What the fuck is she doing even? It's disgusting. I think Jimmy Fallon has done a few things

where there's like a shorts jorts thing that he did with like i hate to say it with like will feral who i love that's your friend that's your best friend he's one of my closest friends he stabbed you in the back and uh well that's we're not talking about stabbing what was that oh sorry sorry um they did some like very very similar to our sort of kids break thing really wearing jorts these are my jorts and they're like on green screen and you know dancing and bad rapping but it felt a little lazy I'll say that but did you have revenge live and let live you have revenge on your mind while you're long term yeah yeah you're playing a long game yeah it'll happen when they least

expect it there's a there's a Bill Cosby joke about like Spanish fly yeah no not Spanish fly yeah where he's like he was in a snowball fight as a kid and he got hit really bad so he took this snowball put it in the free and waited for it to be the summertime and then like when the kid was at least he just threw a snowball at him in the in July that's good that's what I'm gonna do yeah he's what a legend give it up for Bill okay okay this is the deal um will did you like what's do people misunderstand your work I mean sure why wouldn't they I mean what because it's so confusing it's so random obfuscating I mean what what do you think is the most common like misreading of your guy's stuff or the stuff, anything you've done. Yeah. Well, I guess, you know, I've done a lot of characters that I use my own name for.

Yeah. So I suppose there are people that think I'm a terrible leather jacket, right-wing-type stand-up comedian, because I do a lot of that stuff online. Do you think people can't just process art anymore? No, well, I think the hard part is most... That's what I'm probably, excuse me. Sorry, sorry. No, no, I just want to finish before you answer.

But that's what comes to mind with the Andy Kaufman and Steve Martin thing. It's like, I don't know if that could translate into the mainstream now. I think that people had more like kind of like capacity for it. Perhaps. Maybe. But I think back then, well, with Steve Martin, there was a way into his work. There's just me speculating. I'm not an expert.

But I felt like there was a way into that work. He set it up in a way that you're like, get what this is I get this is like a corny guy there's a child as a childness childishness to it Kaufman was a little more like hard to figure out I'm sure a lot of people back then didn't get it yeah the same way they wouldn't get it now you're saying that you're basically the Kaufman of today absolutely yes but he was also like cast on a major sitcom that was very popular yeah taxi yeah so it was like if Kramer if Kramer Jim Kramer from MET from CNBC yeah

no if Kramer from Seinfeld during its peak would go out and do really weird Pratt Falls Pratt Falls without resorting to the N-word over and over again that I thought yeah those if you could do that in a weird way it would be a similar experience that America would have had when when you saw that the first time did you have to remove that it was Kramer when you saw the Michael Richards I didn't know if I... To me, in my mind, that character is so ubiquitous, I'm like, that's Kramer, yeah.

The funniest thing on the, one of the saddest, the apologies, the apology on Letterman. Stop laughing. Yeah, yeah. Hostage video situation. Have you ever seen the bloopers from Seinfeld where, like, he just, he's the only one serious, like, he's the only serious actor, he's like, God damn it, like, when they break, he's like, this is unprofessional. Oh, no.

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You just pop it in and crack it and kind of wakes up your mouth a bit. The flavor's actually really solid. I mean, keeping these on my desk when I'm editing and filming. It just helps me stay a little bit more locked in, okay? I like that I don't have to think about it. either. They just show up on a subscription. Anyway, yeah, I've been using these a lot recently. Lucy.seo knows what's up. Go check them out. What's interesting is that you like work through in a network system and that you've kind of transitioned to like producing yourself independently.

And like, like, I guess like was it out of frustration with like working through like networks? I think it's just disinterest. Yeah. from from those people I mean the sequence of events is like pretty linear it's like we do a certain amount of things that eventually come to an end there's no there's no interest in doing more of them from those places because times have changed interests have changed things that were desired or no longer desired at that level or there's just priorities are different people leave the people that where your allies or support cheerleaders have moved on or whatever.

White men can't they won't give jobs anymore. You're reading between the lines. That's what you're saying. So there were a few things that were like, all right, well, what are we going to, what should I do now? And there's still like, I still work within the system on other, in certain things. Do you think the Jews have too much power? Is that what?

I'm sorry. I mean, I knew you're going to go there. I'm sorry. And I really don't know how to handle that shit. Well, you can say it. I'm a little uncomfortable. On Cinema seems like your opus. Like, it's like a project that keeps growing.

Yeah, yeah. Like, how'd you meet Greg? Well, really? I've never heard it. Oh, no. I mean, I'm just kidding. We've listened to a bunch of interviews. We've never heard.

Really? Yeah, I don't think you. So you're not on all the Reddit AMAs that I do? which I do quite frequently. Sam, is he said on Reddit? I'm just kidding. I haven't seen it. Yeah, you have.

I haven't. I was a huge Neil Hamburger fan. The best. And so I would say like 2004 or something, Eric and I were doing awesome show. And I was a fan of Neal's, went to go see him. He had relocated to LA or he was living in LA. And went to go see him like I would see anybody.

And met him afterwards. and we knew some of the same people. And just kind of new. I think our bridge together was his wife was Australian. And my soon-to-be wife was Canadian. And we were breaking the ice talking about who are foreigners. Foreigners.

And I wanted some advice on immigration stuff, actually, for my wife, or for my potential wife, my fiance, whatever. What's that? Dan Bongino? clip where he's like I'm divorced for my wife not divorced from my wife but we're separated not separated but I'm not with my way I love how red that guy is I know his head is so big it's like Vinny Vinny gets red like that I guess I that was a bad question how'd you know that's fine I'm sorry dude but we just became friends you know

and like as you become friends with funny people you tend to like goof around and that project has grown so I mean like yeah you guys are you and we still we just shot something the other day for it and I I swear to you, like, I get the giggles with that show like nothing else because of how funny Greg is and how funny I am when I'm in that character. The basic premise is he's a snob, but he's only seen like, he's a snob about Raiders of the Lost Art. Yeah. He's a snob about just like the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but he considers himself like Criterion Collection? Is that like?

Yeah, his takes are just like wildly stupid and the Smurfs. The Smurfs Climps. Everything, all movies are equal. That's the one thing. The only way you could be a better movie in another movie, the only thing that makes a movie better is if it's longer. So he's like really in a runtime, like spiral, death spiral. You guys talk about runtimes so much.

And he's comparing runtimes and why something, and then sequels versus prequels and something's a remake. Like, it's just garbage. And then your characters, you just have never heard of movies? Is that like? I think I'm just like so preoccupied with other things in my life. You're like a narcissist? A severe a narcissist with like many problems, many physical and mental problems.

And with rage issues and all sorts of man problems. It's just, it is, it's, I just hope you guys never stopped doing it. I don't see a way to stop. Like we just enjoy it so much. It kind of is your opus. I think it, I would, I would think that's for the historians to determine, but, um, But yes, you can do it super affordably. You, I enjoy everybody involved so much at Tornacola, who we write it with and direct it.

He directs it. And I mean, again, like, you would shot something the other day and I was like crying, laughing halfway through it. Just like, why would you stop doing something that makes you that happy? I can't imagine like it'd be so hard not to break. Oh, I break. And so, he's so good at that character. He does a thing that we've talked about for years, which, and I do. do it too but because a lot of it's so improvisational if you get into this

drone where you start talking and you're just talking for a while and you're going on and on about something meaning you're waiting you just like wrap it up because if you don't if you're gonna laugh you're gonna spoil a minute of footage yeah because so you're just like just just get through it but sometimes you just break and there's a clip from the last season where he was talking about the the the Chalamea Wonka as we should be considered Wonka 4 Yeah. Yeah.

What did you say? There was something about like Wonk? Wonka heads. Why am I doing this right now? Well, it's all independently produced now. The high network, high network.tv is where you can

for five bucks a month. And it's been working. We get to make it for without anybody else involved. You've been doing music. At a certain point, like you really sincere. music yeah and like uh making all the have you found irony boys very uncomfortable yeah

yeah what was that like as is it is it like dillon it like royal royal aber belgillan no not the music yeah just like just the feeling of it seeing those clips of like the people being like i came here for yeah fucking folk folk concept yeah it's just like you they're like mad about it guitars so mad i love that stuff get me bob we've talked about this through over the phone but he is my one of my guiding lights he's my favorite and that was always when I was thinking about making that shift or you know I mean this all starts with you just sitting around for me at least writing music because I like doing it and when something comes up that's like not funny the decision is like do I pursue this or do I abandon it is there is that a stress was that

stressful at first? No, no. I thought it was cool. I thought it was like this is an exciting thing to try to do. Yeah. Because I never, I think I got to a place where I was 40 and had gotten married and had a kid and was like, all right, I'm like live in life. I'm not just like all about the goofs in my personal life. Yeah. And maybe I have things to say or have a perspective that's not all clowning around. I think, I'm sorry. No, but that's all right. I mean, but looking at Dylan and being like, oh, that guy didn't give a shit.

He just did what he wanted. He zigged and zagged and like tried shit and wasn't really worried about it. Now, maybe he was worried about it. He never talks about it, but it didn't look like that. So I just, and I had enough people around me that, like, serious music, music people that were, like, very encouraging and supportive. I continue to do it because I'd get pleasure out of doing it. I guess what I'm probably projecting onto your decision to do that is that there's kind of a

like you can insulate your feelings through irony, right? So like someone could be like this sucks and you're like it's supposed to be bad, right? But like releasing music that's so sincere is scarier in my mind at least. Yeah, there's nowhere to hide. I mean, but it's also like... Plus, music's just better than comedy, so like, it would be like I would want to do a good job. For this, I'm like, you know, I've pooped my pants and stuff. Yeah, I mean, I thought the interesting thing was like, can you do both?

Can you go back and forth? Yeah. At whenever you want. Yeah. And maybe some people have a hard time with that for me, you know. Yeah. But I plan to be doing this for a long time, you know, like in the biz of making... I was literally going to say in the biz of making sure.

That's right baby. It's so gross, right? Yeah. You know, like I'm a lifer and I plan to live for a long time. So I've got some designs on how to do that, medical things that we're going to be talking about very strongly. What are you been doing? But the weights.

The weights, yeah. You probably get 140 years. I always, I mean, we talked about Andy Kaufman before, but it's like, don't you think like Andy Kaufman got out early? Because of cancer? Yeah. Yeah. So like if he's like 48 and he's like still going.

on Letterman doing like weird guys yeah you might be like all right um it it yeah it'll play itself out a little bit we kind of felt that we i was on we did come town before this and was that for the last like four or five years we just and now what's that it was a it was a podcast okay for uh like wTF or pretty much like that yeah but like yeah we for the last of six years for the four years we're like oh we're gonna do this crap again it was like yeah a little bit like what if you know Elvis Presley was a Chinese and it would go a little something like this right then you've figured out you loved it but it was just like you felt like you could you could you could you figure out what's working

and then it's the balance of how much do I continue to continue to play into what's working versus like stretching and trying new things and right but so you've made you've also have you I had really navigating like a journey of the sincere to some degree the show feels like the first time I've ever tried right because you're like tried it tried just adding anything right because it's scary it's scary yeah but it's like if something sucks then it'll hurt your feelings if you work really hard on it but people seem to like where you're going right do you have people that are like uh this sucks because i why don't you go back to you know like being offensive for the for the yucks no maybe

But you don't pay attention. At this point, I don't pay attention. If my friends like it, I'm happy. And my dad can watch it now. Yeah. He's becoming a little bit of a stage mother about it. It's a little bit of annoying. Well, let me send a personal message to your dad who's watching right now.

Fuck off. Adam. What's your name? What's his name? Old man, take a look at my life. I'm a lot like you. I'm not like him at all. What's his name?

Max. Max? Yeah. Let me speak to you for a second. Max. careful your son Adam met me with a gay man at his apartment 12 years ago uh-huh you and a gay guy uh James adomian openly gay proudly gay and Adam was such a fan of mine I inspired who he is to this day not much actually and I'm here to tell you that he's made good on that by having his

hero come on his little podcast Sarah Squirm is lost on it the show yet so one day He's a good son and you should be proud of him. And if there are any allegations coming out about him, I was unaware of these allegations before I came in the studio. Yeah. You heard? Do you have anything coming out? Because these people all the time, you're coming out with bad stuff, you know?

No, I always feel like. I never had the gumption to do anything bad. Right. Are you a single man? No, I'm engaged. Oh, you are? Yeah. Where's the ring?

You don't wear an engagement? ring like a man should. Yeah. No, I don't. I never actually want to wear a ring. Really? Because I don't like my hands. I think it's the only reason I got married. I like the idea of having a ring on.

You're like I'm like Depp. Yeah. It's like a Depp style. Yeah. Like a Chris Angel kind of Depp kind of rings guy. Did you ever consider being a rings guy when you moved to Hollywood? Get a bunch of rings and stuff? No.

No. No. I don't have, do you have any tattoos? No. Do you have any pierce? I had an earring? Oh, you did? Yeah, but I took it out one night. I could see the remnants of it, yeah.

Very embarrassing. It's pretty embarrassing. Yeah, I thought it was cool actually, but I thought, yeah, I kind of want to talk about like, I don't know, I've heard you speak about like where you've seen comedy go the last couple years and... Maybe like Mark Norman again. Oh, okay.

Where did I see it go? Yeah, I mean, like, you deal with it a lot in office hours. Like, you know, you do it sort of in the sense of, like, parody. Like, you get that Rogan parody, and then, you know, you did the Mar parody, which is so funny. Thank you. But, like, does it suck? Do you think it sucks now? No, it does.

But it's always kind of suck, no? Yes. Yeah. Well, sure, I guess. I mean, I guess the thing that's changed from, perspective I mean yeah comedy when I was in the 80s 90s there was like 90% kind of middle-of-the-road crap that was filling time or was fine it wasn't for me but then like you know 10% of the time Norm McDonald would come up there or somebody

like that and you'd be like this is crazy this is great like I love this guy like so I'm always gonna have that kind of I guess refined or like I love comedy so much that I don't accept stuff that's just hacky. But I also don't mind, I mean, but it's also my definition of that. Yeah. So there's that whole thing of just like personal preference and there's, you know, comedians that are playing to a wide audience is generally not going to be for me. But it's not that it's terrible, but I think it's a hipster.

It's kind of hipsters to say that. There's plenty of the hipsters stuff that isn't for me either. There's definitely stuff that's for a wide audience that you like. Like, norm was pretty wide. That's true, but again, I mean, some of these guys break through. And they can, like the Beatles were incredibly innovative and crazy, but they were also hugely popular. Sure. Right?

Yeah. So some things are great and popular. Yeah. But most things are just either popular or great. Maybe that's one way of thinking about it. Easier for your, what. No, I just, I think that, like, you know, you can also have crap that has fewer fans too, right? Absolutely.

Yeah. Well, most things... I don't think the amount of people that consume something... I would say most things are crap that nobody knows about. I don't think that... Most things that are made. I don't think that anything that's being created is defined by, like, the size of the audience. I think it's just is a good or bad, right?

Well, it's all personal preference. Right. What do you actually like? Yeah. What makes you entertained or happy or thought-provoking? But then, I mean, the real... I wouldn't probably care except that these guys are now all like dipping into social issues and political issues. It kind of feels like they're becoming like Kate McKinnon, SNL, but it's the right-wing version of it.

Yeah, but it feels a little more hypocritical or something because they're coming from this, hey, we're just asking questions. I just, you know, and... It's also just not funny, too. It's boring. You grew up listening to Stern? Do you think there was any influence on the casting that you guys did, like from the whack pack? Absolutely. Those, yeah, I mean, the whack pack.

You had a high-pitched Eric, right? Never had, that was one of our rules was like, don't poach from that squad. Really? Yeah. You had too much reverence for it. Yeah, that was his domain. And it felt like we got organically, you know, people came into our world kind of organically. Somebody would come in as like a small character and we'd be like, that would be a great host of a kid's

TV show or something. In retrospect, do you ever feel like, oh, this guy's just, you know, a little bit? A little bit, yeah. I mean, I think there's... But it's still, it's so funny still, but like... At the time, you know, there was very, this was 20 years ago or something like that, 15, 10 years ago, 15 years, whenever it was. We weren't thinking about like, you know, we weren't thinking about anything except what we thought was funny and on the set, we always tried to be fun. We tried to be, you know, respectful and polite and we knew we were trying to make something very strange and yeah disturbing and so that would push you know we bring in people and tell them to say crazy shit and they were pleased happy to do it yeah everybody was thrilled to

work and do something's weird and you worked with Tommy Y so right yeah yeah one day one day with Tom what was it like I mean he's an interesting guy was a smart guy Smart guy. Really talented guy. It was kind of a weirdo. The room was totally weirdo. When I was in college, we were the perfect demo for it. It kind of broke our brains.

Yeah. I watched it like 10,000 times. I watched it many times. We were just starting to make our stuff when we were made aware of that show. We were like done, Tom Goes to the Mayor probably. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, we came in and we, you know, we fucked around with him a little bit for sure. How could you not?

Couldn't resist. I think our bit with him was like, let's make him the director of that episode. And just do whatever. Because what we really wanted to do was let him try to create the vacuum for him to do what he does. But he wanted, in all fairness, and I understand, he wanted the, he wanted like real production, he wanted the infrastructure of a real TV show. Yeah. But we were like, but if we give you that, then it's, you're not going to get what you are so good at making.

Right. So you can't, it's like the quantum physics thing about like, as soon as you observe something at a quantum level, it changes. So you can't really control. I know. I say that all this time. Yeah, I mean, look, look, look. I mean, about the room especially. But so we, we kind of played with the idea of working with him in some way more.

Did it feel bad afterwards? You were like it wasn't as cool as we thought. I feel like it was just, it sounds to me like you're saying it was just a drag to meet this guy. No, it was not a drag. It was very interesting. Were you laughing a lot? I like being around eccentric weirdos. Whatever you want to.

That's the thing. You go down, you pull the thread of like, what do you mean by weirdo? Right. And then you go, well, I, maybe that person, you don't know what their background is. You know, if they had some kind of, you know. I guess the threshold is probably does someone have a developmental disorder. And I would be much more. As a teenager, I was listening to Howard.

Yeah, exactly. And my position on that is evolved and it's not something I would want to do anymore. But at the time, it was what everybody, not everybody was to, but it didn't feel like, oh, this is wrong. You know, it just felt like these are interesting weirdos. that I want to put on TV and treat like their celebrities or something. You know, it's like... And also, L.A. is filled with just like those kind of people with headshots. Yeah.

Desperate. Yeah. Desperate, maybe. Yeah, or just like, I don't know. It's just people that wouldn't get cast in a lot of other things. I grew up, like, not only Howard Stern, but, I mean, a lot of, like, the Coen Brothers or Woody Allen movies or a lot of, like, there were just always interesting people in those movies that felt like sort of outsider types. Phelini-esque. Phelini-esque.

Yeah. So that's where we were coming from and we were, you know, just trying stuff. And when things work, do you do more of it? Yeah, I listened to a lot of Howard growing up and I've been listening to like an archive of all Trump's appearances. Oh, right. Recently. And it's, first of all, I mean, it's pretty obvious. It's so funny he's the president.

I mean, like, it's, like, it's crazy he's the president. crazy he's the president right but like second of all it's like it kind of is in retrospect I see Howard shift to sincerity like I I want people fucking hate it you know and I wonder like to what extent he feels like partially responsible for like prompting that like or like kind of propping him up and like you know help yeah I mean he was one of many that did it's not he didn't get Trump elected obviously and he was pretty I mean I remember the stern, right after he got elected the first time,

that period is maybe the weirdest period of all time. Because they didn't know what to say. They were lost. On Howard. On Howard. From what I remember. Well, he's the president. So, yeah.

Anyway, what else is going on? You know, it was like that. It was very like. And he's like, the voices on tonight. He, like, loves talking about the voices. Yeah, yeah. There's a period. There's stuff about him that I love.

I don't really listen in that much anymore, to be honest with you. I haven't really listened since high school, but yeah. Since high school, really? Yeah, yeah. Because we would be late to first period because we just want to stay in the car and listen. What years would those? Is that, is that, is that, already years? That's already years?

Yeah, already years. The best. Well, I'm a Jackie, the Jokey man guy myself. I mean, I've gone back through now with the... Who-ho-hoo! Wait, now that's bad Jackie, sorry. But I did, like, I did love it so much. Like, I got really sad.

Like, we're not sad, but I got really emotional when Beat, like, went back on recently. And there was like this tenderness. Oh, yeah. And like this, like, love there. Old pal. Yeah, it was. But I love Richard and Sal. I think they do great.

Sal's prank calls are the best. I would say Richard and Sal's prank calls are the best. Richard, sorry. Yeah, yeah. They're very creative and, you know, I like when Howard's yelling it, Gary about something petty and you know one of the ugliest guys of all time Bopapabuio. Gary Delavate? I don't like to comment on people's looks

yeah all right it's just a better way to live he has a legendary first pitch at a Met game I've seen that you've seen it shot yeah you can't I mean I don't I don't like talking about people's looks but you got to think he's got bad breath yeah and a hog just absolutely packing big wang huge dick who you live in Hollywood, who's got the biggest in town? Hmm. Hmm. Well, I've watched these pornographic films, some of those guys.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know where they live, though. I'm actually having a terrific time, by the way, and I know you have to cut this shit down, but I think you should do have a Patreon? You can put the whole thing up for, you know, how are you paying for this?

State of Israel. Gellman's guy. Yeah, I guess, I guess like the last, the last thing I would really ask is like, I guess like what I really find inspiring is like that you, that you really got bored. It seemed, and correct me if I'm wrong. At what point? Well, you're just like wanting to put out music. It's like, like, and like, I don't know.

I think that that's, like, very cool to me. Thank you. I suppose. Because, like, it must get tiring to, like, have a niche that you have to fill for people and stuff. Yeah, I mean, I think when I have a creative partner, like, you become, you get absorbed into the identity of that partnership. Yeah. Into that thing. And for you, it was come town.

For me, it was Tim and Eric. And then I'm like, well, who am I? Like, what am I? Who am I in that or who am I outside of that? Did you guys break up? No, we're still friends and we're trying to write a movie and, you know, thinking about doing stuff. But the, it's not like that white hot. Like we made a lot of shit, you know, we made a lot of horrible shit.

Do you think it's a product of youth? Like feeling like more free to like make horrible shit, you know? I don't know. No, we just were like, we were in the middle of something, and there was the only thing we had going. It was the only thing in our lives. It was also your world, too. You had like a whole squad of guys,

and then a self-contained world. And then that comes to an end, as it naturally did, not out of any kind of strife, and not out of any kind of conflict. He said it was your child ruined everything. Yes, well, we had agreed, if we were going to do this, we wouldn't have children. Really?

And then I disobeyed him. I thought you guys said that you're not going to get married until gay people can get married. But things come to an end, and I want to make stuff with him, and he wants to make stuff with me, but it will be probably very different than what we're not going to go. Like the band Pavement or something, where you're like, well, those are the six albums Pavement Made. Yeah. And we're going to probably tour, and we're going to do stuff maybe together, but we're not going to do another pavement album or the Pixies or something.

or talking heads. So something like more traditional narrative? Like? It's more of like a, uh, uh, kill Tony? Well, elaborate pranks, I will say, elaborate, very, Jackass style? More like in the fielder realm, more abstract,

or long form, very cerebral. These are long plays. Like, I don't want, this is part of it. That's all I'm gonna say. This right here is part of it. Really? Yeah, you're in the show. You got hate in your heart?

I've hate, do I have what? No. You got hate in your gut? Is that a reference? No, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't know what we'll do. We've got a couple of things that we've plans for,

but if it doesn't happen, I'm proud of what we've done. Will it culminate in Donald Trump going to prison? Let's just say the third act of our movie is a little bit, little bit of something that happened in Butler, Pennsylvania, but a little more, I'd say it's a little more of an accurate depiction. That nerd, the nerd looked like Elizabeth Warren a lot, don't you think? The shooter? Give me a break.

Give me a break, dude. So false flag. I want to end on a reading from Paul. Simon? No. Did I send you this clip of, bring you back to Jerry Lewis, I sent you this clip of him on the Joan Rivers show. Did you watch it? Yeah, yeah. It's pretty intense. He's about beating his son. Yeah, he tells the story. He says, he's on with the child psychologist. And this is 1968 or something like that. And the child psychologist is introducing a fairly novel concept of like not beating your kids, you know. Like love your kids and, you know, be a positive influence. Did your parents watch that or no? Did they watch that clip?

Yeah, yeah. I don't know, probably not. Mine didn't. No, well, my parents never hit me, but. Oh, never, but. Jerry Lewis said, well, let me tell you my perspective. Yeah. My son, Gary.

Delabote. Gary Lewis, from Gary Lewis and the Playboys, which is true. That's really his son's name? That's so funny. Came home with some grades that weren't, let's do it without the sniff. Sorry. I didn't take Claritzen, sir. My son Gary came home with grades that were below my expectations for him.

And he knew that he did not live up to my expectations, and he came into my office, and I have a belt. I have a big Western belt. Nice. And I took the belt off, and he pulled his pants down, and I gave him a whack for each of the for each grade that disappointed me. And they left three fairly sizable welts on his rear. That's hot. And I said, Gary, you've taken your punishment.

Now go up to your room and stay there until I say you can get out. Gary Lewis. Gary Lewis from Gary Lewis and the Playboys. Now I went up, we have an intercom system in our house so I can listen in when they're sleeping and whatnot. And I went over a very long. And I went over there to listen to hear him cry. And it's okay to cry, by the way.

I always say that real men cry, cissies don't. That's true. And I listened, and his mommy came in. Because we have the relationship where when his mom is down on him, I will go and be with them. But when I'm down on the kids, she'll go and be with them and let them know that we're not ganging up on them. And I listened in, expecting to hear

my son crying, but I only heard this. I heard him say, and she said, are you, it's okay to cry. And he said, no, I don't, I don't have to cry. I know that daddy did that to me because he loves me. Why did the French think that's funny? Why is he the best American comedian to him? He's a bad, bad guy. Yeah. Good news is he's passed on. Rod in hell Jerry Lewis. Thanks a lot, Tim. Great to be here. Hey y'all, it's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair. Ever order furniture online and wonder what if? Like, what if it doesn't hold up?

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