The Adam Friedland Show (Cumtown) - What Went Wrong | The Beautiful Pod

Episode Date: July 17, 2026

Adam is joined by Nick Wright to talk the USMNTs brutal defeat and CR7. Chris Ryan then joins to discuss England v Mexico and Argentina v Cape Verde. Host: Adam FriedlandCohost: Chris RyanGuest: Nick... WrightExecutive Producers: Adam Friedland, Marc Fineman, and Mason KleinWriters: Adam Friedland and Sam SerxnerProducers: Sam Serxner, Julia Cassidy, and Chris WholersEditor: Jon RoemerStudio Tech: Adam Tarin--See Adam on tour https://theadamfriedland.show/pages/tour--JOIN THE FRIEDLAND FAMILY FOUNDATION / PREMIUM SUBSCRIPTION:https://www.youtube.com/@TheAdamFriedlandShow/join--Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/TheAdamFriedlandShow--Buy our merch: https://theadamfriedland.show/collections/new--X: https://x.com/adam_talkshowInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theadamfriedlandshowTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adamfriedlandshowclipsYouTube: Subscribe to @TheAdamFriedlandShow here:https://www.youtube.com/c/TheAdamFriedlandShowSubscribe to @TAFSClips here: https://www.youtube.com/@tafsclipsThe Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the beautiful pod. It's Adam Friedland. At the top of the show, I'm joined by Nick Wright of Fox Sports to do a postmortem on the 4-1 loss, the United States against Belgium in the round of 16. The catastrophe of Seattle, they're calling it. And then after that, I go back in time to yesterday, where I talked to CR about the Azteca and, of course, about the messy, the messy. It shouldn't even be messy. It should be Cape Verde. It came for a day. It was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. It makes me want to cry. Do you remember when the tournament was beautiful? It was. Anyway, enjoy the show. The Beautiful Pod is brought to you by Fandul. This summer, America's number one sportsbook is making it easier than ever to get in on the action across all your favorite sports. Think you've got today's home run hitter picked.
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Starting point is 00:01:40 one thing that hasn't is that fuzzy feeling you get when WestJet welcomes you on board. Here's to WestJetting since 96. Travel back in time with us and actually travel with us at westjet.com slash 30 years. Nick Wright, I talked to you, you were in bad shape last night. We're good friends off the year.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Dear friends. Dear friends. Last night we watched, a noble 4-1 defeat to a- Oh, we didn't. There was nothing noble about it. My question, how does this affect LeBron's legacy, okay?
Starting point is 00:02:25 30 seconds. Well, I mean, I do think Cristiano Ronaldo's performance, you know, has enhanced LeBron's legacy. I heard on the broadcast yesterday that he, you know, I think Landon said he's in the best shape of any 41-year-old.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And I was like, no, he's not. the so in that regard like can you still be performing at the highest level at 41 or should be you know what I mean I just just for for the record so it wasn't so much the U.S. men's national team that made me think about LeBron but it was Christiana Ronaldo limping around out there um but that was a catastrophe and I respect you yeah well you started there so I figured I'd go there um that was a catastrophe for us bro yeah and the only this was the only thing that mattered was can we break the hard ceiling of the round of 16 and the answer was resoundingly no. Yeah, they're not very good.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I mean, we lost the turkey. We're dog shit. I mean, yeah, but that one I didn't keep, that was our B team. That was our backups. They weren't very good. I mean, they weren't,
Starting point is 00:03:32 they weren't very good in that game. And listen, if we're going, here is the way, I think sometimes we patronize, like the sports that American media kind of parachutes into then don't give it the full respect
Starting point is 00:03:49 of the full American media take storm. So can we please give the U.S. and international team the respect to have the discussion we would have if this were one of our major American domestic sports, which is Christian Bullisic CP, was a total no-show the entire tournament.
Starting point is 00:04:09 You have to feel for him, though, right? Why? Okay, you put on the hat, the red hat, right? And then he goes ahead and changes the rules an unprecedented way. Donald Trump goes ahead for a British guy. And you're like, I've been wearing the red hat the whole time. See, but he, this, why are you trying to save a British guy, an unprecedented move in World Cup history? So I'm listening.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Damn red hat. I don't, uh, I disagree. when people say how... Madenbarton himself. I disagree when people say how unprecedented it is. People are like in all of World Cup history. The vast majority of World Cup history
Starting point is 00:04:49 didn't have any red cards given out due to VAR. So I'm going to throw all that history out. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like previously, in order to get a straight red, you had to do something so egregious that in real time on the field,
Starting point is 00:05:05 the referee was like, holy shit, what happened? And so he gave the red. So I don't really care about that piece of it. And I don't buy the idea that the, that Trump's stepping in, it was bad juju for the U.S. It was never suspended red cars. A red card suspension. Well, except, they've never done it. Except they literally did it right before the tournament for Ronaldo.
Starting point is 00:05:26 For a friend. They literally did it. For a friend. He got a red guard, got a three game ban. And then they were like, you know what? We're going to suspend two of the suspension game. So that part I don't care about. With the work in, he went to the.
Starting point is 00:05:39 White House, he put on a black tie. He sat there with Mohammed Ben Solomon, okay? He showed a little bit of respect. He returned back to our country after a decade being gone. I don't know why. But yeah, this guy, this English guy who lived here for a month, Donald Trump's going to turn around and
Starting point is 00:05:54 no, I'm kidding, but listen, he's not R9. Like, we did it for a kind of like a pedestrian, mediocre. Not mediocre. He could bring it in the back of the net, but he was an end- Listen, he was, but the, here's the, here's the, to me, people are missing,
Starting point is 00:06:10 people are missing the force for the trees here. The reason Balagan was so important and the reason we thought him being suspended was catastrophic was because the guy who is doing a whole ad campaign about changing what American soccer is
Starting point is 00:06:28 was awful the whole tournament. He got kicked in the cap. Yes. No, he was nice during the group stages. No, he was not. He didn't play. bro. He looked like the American Namar. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:41 First half of the first game, he was good. Yeah. And then he got kicked in the calf, came out, missed the second game. He's just a, the third game could only play part time in a game we lost. In our first knockout round game, we're down a man. He can't go to full 90. Yeah. And then yesterday, he kicks a guy.
Starting point is 00:07:03 And then he's like, I can't play. Especially because he's a Croat and he's playing against Bosnia. That should have fired him up. I didn't even think about that. Genuinely speaking, it's kind of like, we're like hyping him up a little bit too much. And what I will say, to defend Pulisage,
Starting point is 00:07:18 he has never really bailed on the United States. He's always put it in a shift for the States. I have to say that. Are you being sarcastic? It's just not true. Yesterday he was abject, right? But like, beyond that, like... He skipped the gold cup because he was so tired. It made us
Starting point is 00:07:34 like baby and, like, teachers' pets, for the president to go, like, please, can we have Floresa A journeyman from a Farmer's League? That is not the story As you hold a child's vape.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Did you get that vape from a junior high school? What are you with a doo-do team who didn't even want to be there? Who was like telling like a Dooku he couldn't like go see his kid being born The gold
Starting point is 00:07:59 having sex with a their talismanic midfielders Like girl like They're a disaster Their golden generation has been a disaster they were like not being taken seriously going into this match. I know. Got gassed.
Starting point is 00:08:12 They got two. They thought they were going to walk it. But that's so that's why this is so disappointing, bro. It's because I understand Belgium's the number nine team in the world. They haven't looked like that for a moment in this tournament. They're disappointment, a massive disappointment. Right. They drew against Egypt.
Starting point is 00:08:31 They drew against Iran. They needed an absolute miracle to beat Senegal. They have looked all. awesome in two matches this tournament. New Zealand and us. The fact that they did to us, what they did to New Zealand, is criminal. Like that,
Starting point is 00:08:47 and did you... Big Rom. Big Rom is the only one that I will vouch for. I would die. He's one of my favorites. Not DeBriene? No. I mean, he didn't even play yesterday.
Starting point is 00:09:00 That's why they won yesterday. It was because DeBroida, they literally, they gave him the... They didn't play. No, Lukaku's an all-time gray. being wrong. Especially when he's fat. When he's fat, he bangs it in the back of the net.
Starting point is 00:09:11 When he has a lot as good. Kelsey Lukaku, six-pack Lukaku, kind of a disappointment. When he has a little belly, then that's really when you're in trouble. He's kind of Mariano, he's kind of enter Sandman style right now. They bring him in.
Starting point is 00:09:25 They bring him in, he's the closer. No, genuinely, we were playing, it was a good draw for us. No, that's the thing. We had a perfect draw. We got super, you know, fortunate of the 32 teams to make the knockout round. Bosnia.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Bosnia is like 29th. We're at home. And to have that performance, can I ask you this? Yeah, yeah. For the 45 seconds after the Tillman free kick, did you think we were going to win? I thought the World Cup, yes. I thought
Starting point is 00:10:03 they were going to win the World Cup. Just that game. Yeah. No, I, you know what it is truly the country is so like effed up outside of sports. Sports have been great. It's sports summer, right? We've got games every day. How dope is that? And we got this.
Starting point is 00:10:20 It's been, come on, Nick, we've had the best summer ever, okay? And we have to do it because of our jobs, because we're serious sports pundits. And there's nothing they can say to stop us. No, but in reality, like, look at like, the U.S. Men's National Team, like, genuinely like played a real sense. system and that was the novel thing. The first half of the first game, I thought, was it looked like this is a sea change. This is miles better than we've ever seen before.
Starting point is 00:10:47 But they're just like the personalities, like Trump making that move, I think alienated half of the stadium. I mean, generally speaking, like, we thrived. And I'm not saying we won chips, right? We thrived when we had Dempsey and Donovan. We had like a little bit of a scrappy edge to us. Dempsey was crippling on the fucking pitch. He was saying, you don't know where I'm from, homie. Like he was at Texas.
Starting point is 00:11:08 guy, one of those guys that said, Patna, you know those guys? Like a UTK It was cool that we had that on our team. These guys are just, like, there's nothing like that grabs me or grips to me about the personalities on the team. It is a just fool's errand to believe that
Starting point is 00:11:24 tactical football can apply to knockout, to knockout game state. We've seen it over and over again. Pep Guardiola tried to over manage over and over again. Every time he'd go up against Carlo Missalotti, and he'd be like, I'm going to play Kyle Walker at nine,
Starting point is 00:11:42 and I'm going to have my goalie is a midfielder, and he'd overthink it. And yeah, this is something that is suited to a league campaign. It's not suited to knockout football. Knockout football is bloody and brutal and unfair, and just waltzing in there and being like, we're playing a terrible team that doesn't want to be there. Literally, they have not looked like they wanted to be at the World Cup the entire time. They're like, we got shirts and the country says we have to have a soccer team. And just genuinely.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And then we're like, oh, yeah, we're amazing now. No, have some fucking humility. We're America. They beat us before in the knockouts. Just have a little bit of fucking revenge on your mind. Don't have the president being a suckup to the fucking head of FIFA. So you are, listen. It's an inept, like, at being an autocrat, he's being inept at it.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Like, what they used to do is just say, I'm going to kid. your family unless you throw this match. And that's how Peru loses 6-0. You don't brag about being like, hey, I talked to the teacher, and the teacher says that we can, that flow can come back. No, we look like nerds.
Starting point is 00:12:48 But that has nothing to do with how we played yesterday. It alienated. There was a steering around. What alienated the stadium was that Belgium scored immediately. Oh, Pulis is he was stormed the capital,
Starting point is 00:13:04 and Trump didn't even care. He was there with a... No. I mean, the truth is this. They got to impress with themselves and they literally waltz in and they looked at Belgium's recent form. They're like, oh, they couldn't score against Iran. But that's why...
Starting point is 00:13:21 So that's why I'm saying that Tillman goal should have been a hard reset. It's like, oh, shit. We're very lucky. We're not down two-nil right now. Donovan and D'Hurzzi had a spirit. There was a soul there.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Those teams were not good, bro. You are romanticizing those teams because of your age. He was 38 years old, right? We didn't, even in the first match where we cracked four, we saw it going back the other way and we're like, oh, it's going to be a disaster if anyone tries to attack us. The thing we used to do well is create keepers. That was the one thing we did well.
Starting point is 00:13:57 We had three in the prep. Three, we had Guzon, Friedel, and Howard. And Howard was like, like, that is the one thing America did when we were crap. at ball, right? And now we have this guy from Harvard. It's one of the most embarrassing. It's hilarious. I mean, that howler at the back.
Starting point is 00:14:13 You don't see, like, it's, it's, it's, so let me ask you this question. Let me ask you a serious soccer question. Yeah. I read just some random tweet this morning. And I, are you sure you know what? Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Yeah. I was like, you know, it's one of the most well-researched periods in history. I just, I just, just an estimate. Okay. Stop.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Stop. We'll cut it. You don't have to cut anything. I'm not responsible for what you say. And the take of it, here was the gist of the tweet. Let's hear it. That guys three through 11, Norway versus the United States are not that different. But Norway's best guy is a demigod.
Starting point is 00:15:00 And Norway's second best guy, OdaGard, would be the best player in American soccer history by a mile. Okay, but still would be the best player in our history by a mile. So, like, is, is really what our ceiling is, is not about
Starting point is 00:15:19 the overall development of 30 guys, but the fact that every team that's going to make the final eight has one of these, you know, a guy who might one day or already has been a finalist for the
Starting point is 00:15:34 Ballandor and we'll never we've never had anyone even been able to buy a ticket to the event. It's been Ronaldo Messi. No, I know, but you understand what I mean. That's why I said a finalist. We don't have any like top 10 talent in the States. The problem is you
Starting point is 00:15:48 We don't have a top 50 player in the world. Yeah, probably yeah. The problem is in Europe, like sports is free. People go to academies young and like the whole thing about like if LeBron played soccer is like it kind of
Starting point is 00:16:04 ignores, like, the way that they're trained, like Spain, for instance, like La Maciasia, like Barcelona's Academy, it's like, we will never have physical advantages over other national sides. We are going to be the smartest at sports. We're going to, like, we're going to out tactic and out maneuver and out chess every other team, and we're going to have a six, like Busquettes or like Guardiola used to be, like, you know, the deep-lying playmaking midfield. and he's going to make a turn against you every single time and you're going to know the move is coming and you're not going to be able to stop it
Starting point is 00:16:39 and he's going to see every pocket of space around him, right? Like there is more to just raw athleticism. I mean, like people have mentioned, I mean, the best soccer player of all time is five, six, you know? There's something about, there's an education aspect to it and the problem is like... No, but there, but so this is why I brought up Norway and Holland. The reason I brought up Norway and Norway and Holland.
Starting point is 00:17:00 The reason I brought up Norway and Holland is because I understand what you're saying that there are ways to do it without great athletes but there also is a way to do it with just one great athlete. Holland
Starting point is 00:17:15 Holland is maybe. Yeah, I mean, and he would get them to a final, but like he was with truck drivers and you could never like drag it across. But I'm not, I'm not talking about the U.S. winning the tournament.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I'm saying, can we just turn our heart ceiling. They just made soccer look whack yesterday and is so beautiful. I mean, like, the two games we saw this weekend were like the most beautiful games I've ever seen in any sport. I mean, like,
Starting point is 00:17:44 and okay. Oh, you're talking about Argentina, Cape Verde and Mexico, England. And you can't say Chase Down Block, okay? What game is better than the Azteca, which was the most frenetic, insane, like white knuckle? Like, I feel like I'm still like calming down
Starting point is 00:18:02 after it was two days ago. And then Cape Verde, like, the equalizer an extra time, like the guy trying to find his girlfriend, like soccer looked so cool. It was so great. And you said what moment was better? You said, I can't say the Chase Down Block. What other game? I can't, I'm John.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Honestly, what about? So Game 6, 2012 against Boston, 45, 15, and 5 for LeBron Legacy game. But, uh, I mean, like, emotionally. No, it was, like, listen, just Cape Verde is like, we didn't know any of these guys' names, and they're playing against God.
Starting point is 00:18:32 They're playing against Messi. They're going to tell they were waiting outside the bus afterwards. They can get a picture with Messi. So this is... This shouldn't be lost in the U.S.'s catastrophic performance yesterday. And I'm not just saying this because it's on my network. Yeah. This has been one of the greatest months of sport I've ever seen in my life.
Starting point is 00:18:56 I thinker maybe... Rinaldo literally may have played his last game yesterday, and that's how bad Tim Reem. Tim Ream ruined it all those days. I mean, it really just, it was so beautiful. And like there was a, I saw a friend of mine asking what team he should follow
Starting point is 00:19:14 and declaring Arsenal. And then less than 24 hours later, it's, don't be afraid to name drop, bro. You're talking about Van Leith. Declared Arsenal, which I'm like, I would never wish upon my greatest enemy.
Starting point is 00:19:26 It's like someone saying they're converting into Judaism. I'm like, you don't want no part of them. That's your team. They just won the Premier League. a horrible life. It's been a... They're the chance. It was a...
Starting point is 00:19:37 They went to penalties against PSG to get the double. How can you say that's no good? We shut their asses down. No, he should. Van should root for for Man City just because Holland's so fun. Oh, it's plastic. Come on. It's not a real team. There's no history. What are you going to root for?
Starting point is 00:19:56 You told him not to root for Arsenal, so who are you going to tell them to to root for? It's the hope that kills you. It's like, I'm going to be a Bills fan or something. You know who my team is, right? What? You know who my team is, right? You're Arsenal, no.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Well, no. I mean, the guy who does stats for our show is a diehard Arsenal fan, and so on his behalf, I root for them for him. But this is such a layup for you. Who is the team I root for? I don't know. Is he going to the Sixers or where is he going? The Knicks?
Starting point is 00:20:27 Well, no, you're on the right. You're on the right track. Liverpool. there you go never walk alone there are the other big six club that I could see myself like romanticizing
Starting point is 00:20:42 they're like a working class club but I just adopted Arsenal because they had like the crossovers and dunks guys and man man you was like kind of the Celtics aren't you a part owner of Arsenal or something dumb don't you pay them money to be a fan I'm a club member and I'm proud of it
Starting point is 00:20:57 yeah you pay them money to be a fan I pay like 38 pounds a year to be a pleasure. Can we talk before I go about Ronaldo? It's really just, I've been talking about it every episode of the show, because this is really the culmination of 20 years of
Starting point is 00:21:15 these two intertwines kind of like superstars. Of course. And the contrast, I think that everyone's kind of ignoring yesterday out of empathy for him. Like seeing him just be like the Euros is more, you would, He was injured in the final.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I know. It's just like, bro, just shut up. Just be like, I'm fucking sick at ball. Fuck you. Just be like, don't be so insecure so publicly. Like, you're so. He's a genius of the game, right? And it's like, it's really painful to see how this story is ending and what
Starting point is 00:21:51 Messi is doing right now, which is. And carmically, I'm like, I hated Rinaldo. I loved Messi. I'm like, good. If someone told me this was happening, I'd be like, fuck yeah. but it's actually like too painful to even celebrate. And this is where Roberto Martinez, the Portuguese manager, had a very tough job. Because he...
Starting point is 00:22:10 He's a loser. Well, listen. He's just like, what's Ronaldo's autograph? I know. So, like, most famous Portuguese people in history, in order. You ready? Okay, yeah. Number one, Vasco da Gama.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yeah. Number two, Ferdinand Magellan. number three, Cristiano Ronaldo. Yeah. So Roberto Martinez was in a position where Well, he's like kind of,
Starting point is 00:22:37 he's like a Democratic campaign consultant. He loses every time, but he gets a better job. He was in Belgium. He was Belgium with the golden generation. They were like, they did get to a semi.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Like, it was just a waste of talent. So what Rinaldo needed to be was, late stage Kareem, which is, hey, you're still useful. You're still going to get minutes.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And we might even, like people go back and look, 1988 NBA Finals, Game 6 season on the line, they ran the play for Kareem. Kareem got a phantom foul, made the free throws. They go on to win the championship.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Rinaldo, they needed to set the precedent from the beginning of the tournament that Ronaldo was going to be used in that role as like the ultimate sub. He didn't have the courage to do it. Then I mean, I didn't believe in ridden them to a
Starting point is 00:23:33 chip. I mean, actually, practically speaking, they had the best midfield in the same for Spain, maybe, but. So I was at Portugal Columbia in Miami. Yeah. And I was totally out on Portugal. And then in their knockout round game, who they play in round
Starting point is 00:23:49 one, I forget. Croatia. Croatia. They play Croatia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I bet Croatia. Oh, you're on the You're having a rough one this tournament. It hadn't been great.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Let's go to you. I'd rather not. Oh, God, it broke my heart when I heard you say that. Yeah, the Cape Verde, Spain. That was all, listen, it happens. You know, you live and you learn. It's not fair. It's not fair, but it's fine.
Starting point is 00:24:19 So I bet Croatia, and the moment Rinaldo came out of the game, I text my buddy that I bet with, and I said, we lost. It was tied, and I was like, we're going to lose. I was like, Portugal just unlocked what they need to do. Yeah, Robert was going to immediately scored. Yeah. And I thought that because Roberto Martinez had the courage in a tie game, what could be Ronaldo's last game, to take him out,
Starting point is 00:24:44 that he was then going to do that yesterday. And if at any point yesterday, I believe they had taken Ronaldo out, they could have beaten Spain. What a loser. Just tell me to fuck off. Tell him this, you're on the bench, dude. You stink. you're making the team worse.
Starting point is 00:24:59 It sucks because it's like actually protecting Rinaldo. Listen, this is not going to be a mark against his legacy. This is not going to be remembered. Right now watching this is, like, it hurts my insides because it's like you see someone that's so desperately insecure that it could just be like, he's so good. In any other era, he'd be the best player in the world, right? In any other era. You can't say that about Byrd.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Like, Bird wouldn't be the best player in the world now. In any other era, this guy is the best player in the world. Right? And it sucks. If he was just like, bro, it sucks. I play at the same time as this freak. He's like, Jesus Christ, it sucks. Like, and guess what? He probably made me work harder.
Starting point is 00:25:40 But like, do you think his biggest fans? Tragic? What percentage of the biggest Ronaldo fans deep down no? They're on the wrong side of the argument. They're bought. No, no what I'm saying. He's bought. I saw that.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I don't know if I believe that story or not. I saw it. Want something for LeBron? No, no. Because I just don't know what I believe on Twitter. Yeah, James Coop. But I, but so what percentage, if we had 100 I show speed types in the room,
Starting point is 00:26:13 die hard, Ronaldo fans. He's a nice kid, yeah. No, I'm not, this wasn't a knock on him. I like them. But I'm saying, I'm saying die hard Ronaldal fans, you got 100 in a room.
Starting point is 00:26:25 What percentage of them now, if you ask and be like, hey, who's better? Messier Ronaldo all time. I think that they're like, finally, I think they're finally just like he's not as good, but I think he's cooler, which is not.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Is that what it is? Yeah, which is also not true. Like, there's no one left. It's really sad. Genuinely speaking, like, Chrissiano Ronaldo, standing over the ball at Old Trafford, the Theater of Dreams,
Starting point is 00:26:50 before a free kick, it was one of the most scary, intimidating, juggernaut. Like, you know, like, it's a, he is a great. And the problem is, I've explained this before in the show.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Like, Messi's context for understanding his career is that Argentina said he was a loser because he never won for them. And Diego Armando is better and you'll never be. Maradonna. Did you call Maradonna Armando? Diego Maradona.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay, sorry. They're like, you'll never be as good as this guy who was good for six years and destroyed himself with cocaine. It was a genius in the game. Honestly, to, For me, he's the second basketball time.
Starting point is 00:27:28 But, like, so Messi was homesick. He left home at 13. He was never able to return until he got in that World Cup. And what we're seeing right now is he's free. Cristiano Ronaldo's framework for his career is Messi. So you see one guy looking at one direction, the other guy looking at it, and he's like, why is he looking back?
Starting point is 00:27:45 I mean, I'm not saying that Messi is not being, isn't competitive, but it's just like it doesn't, it matters so much to Ronaldo. And genuinely speaking, like his entire life, been just trying to get as good as he can at sports because he once accepted. I mean, like, he thought it would make his dad stop doing drugs.
Starting point is 00:28:03 And, like, he destroyed, like, he bought his dad and his brother a mansion. And he was like, hey, do you want to come see me play for Sir Alex Ferguson? You know, Manchester United? They're like, yeah, I'd rather hang out with your brother and just do drugs. It's just like this guy.
Starting point is 00:28:19 All right. No, hold on. I have one announcement for you and then I got to go. What is that? You know what? We're going to the final. Well, you know, what, you're on the right track, but not quite.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Oh, close. So, I, you're a big Knicks fan. I like, or not, yeah, I mean, you're a Laker fan, but you, but, yeah, yes. So, I like the Tibbs, uh, the Tibbs, like, uh, identity that's still. Yes. So the guy who you, I'm sure you saw it, all the games, um, middle-aged white guy, always wearing sunglasses, pretty slick back hair.
Starting point is 00:28:55 No, just shut up for a second. sitting next to DJ Khalid, the best seats in the house next to the Knicks bench is one of my buddies, Richie. So he has those seats and a box at Arsenal. He's a diehard Arsenal fan. He has the best seats for the Knicks and a box at Arsenal. Richie?
Starting point is 00:29:17 Yeah, my buddy Richie. And I have kind of an open-ended invite if I can make it to England for an Arsenal game We're going to go, brother. To go with him. I am, you, my buddy, Josh, our stats producer, and you are going to be my plus ones, assuming Richie's, you know, will allow it, and we'll go to an Arsenal game together. You guys on FaceTime with Titi this summer?
Starting point is 00:29:41 What? He's in L.A. You know, I'm working on it. When I did your pod the first time, you were like, this is your, you know, your golden goose. That's your guy. That position like him. Imagine Holland as like a box. president's juggernaut.
Starting point is 00:29:57 And imagine someone that's also technically, like, can do everything else. He's the most comprehensive. Are you finding yourself a little? Because Tieri has been unbelievable on the broadcast. What's that? Tieri's been unbelievable on the broadcast. But Zlatan's kind of overshadowing him a bit.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Is it making you read? When you listen to what Tieri says, you learn so much about the game? There's a really good clip of him talking about what Venger taught him about passing to teammates. He expressed frustration, and Venger's like, you have to study how everyone receives the ball. And you have to tailor every dish to everyone's like skill set.
Starting point is 00:30:38 So it's like he said that like actual true genius on the pitch is just like understanding how everyone else plays to such a specific degree. It's not everyone adjusting to your game. And when you listen to him, I mean, what he said after the Cape Verde, match was like he's just a he's a poet and he's no he's great he's absolutely great um all right you're you're the best thank you for having me on i appreciate it so much dude there's no one better to
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Starting point is 00:34:01 All right, come on England, come on the Lazz I thought that was one of the best songs I've ever heard I'm gonna go pee in that we get started Sports, Summer marches on Chris Ryan in Los Angeles How are you enjoying this tournament? I can't get enough of it. You know, the best thing
Starting point is 00:34:30 I can say about last night the England-Mexico match is after watching it, I felt like I played in it. It was so emotionally exhausting. It was the 11 minutes of added time were the most gripped I have ever been by a sporting event, honestly. Yeah. Were you terrified for your life leaving the stadium? You're like, the cartel is going to get my ass. Yeah, I love the subplot of the like 17 hotels that they booked and they still managed to find England. I can't believe that that one got out. You know what it would have been good if they got everyone from the Harry Kane TV show, right? Yes. All the guys that acted in whatever that show is on.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Wait, it's the Gareth Southgate. The Southgate series, yeah, yeah. They could have gotten a, I don't know, maybe what's his name, the guy that did the Nazi and Inglorious Bastards. Christop Valtz. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he could have been the gaff, but get all those boys. Get all those boys And while you're at it,
Starting point is 00:35:31 get everyone from the Lakers show on HBO and from the Clippers one that no one watched. Yeah. Yeah. And get the real Clipper Daryl. I'm talking decoys on decoys. Yeah, they have to do a Saddam Hussein-style decoy system.
Starting point is 00:35:44 But it's like, did they really think that some guy working at the Mexico Hyatt was not going to be like, they're staying here. Yeah. Well, not if they marched in all those guys from that show. No,
Starting point is 00:35:54 doppelgangers. Doppelgag. Yeah. I just saw, they put it on Instagram reels, they put a clip of Kane crying. He's like, but I always hit penalties, coach. And then Southgate's like, it's all right. You did it for Britannia.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I want to talk England. I want to talk also Messi and this weekend, all the games that we missed from this weekend. But I think in Argentina, Cape Verde and Mexico, England, And it's in the top 10 of games I've watched in anything of my life. Yes. Yeah. And also, like, I think the players think that too.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I think that the guys in that Argentina-Ca Verde match were like, I took part in something like way bigger than myself and the same thing for England, Mexico. The guy trying to find his girlfriend after scoring an extra time. It's a movie, Chris. this tournament is a movie and thank you Gianni Infantino thank you Marco Rubio thank you U.S. State Department
Starting point is 00:36:59 we'll get to the red card I think it'll be less of a discussion point when this comes out tomorrow but I do want to mention it but in those two games I think like cinema we haven't processed them yet but where do you see them in like the scope
Starting point is 00:37:17 of like any athletic competition you've seen throughout your entire life Well, you know, it's like the World Cup always brings in new football fans. And I have had several people ask me, like, is it always like this? And it's not, you know, it's like their club seasons are like more of like a long, like a marathon. They're not like this like batting down the hatches. Let's fucking go.
Starting point is 00:37:39 But it is kind of like what's primally interesting about soccer is the idea of like a bunch of guys want to get the ball in a net. And a bunch of guys want to stop it from happening. and it's just a battle of the wills sometimes. And when it actually plays out and a place like Azteca, you're just like, this is better than Apocalypse now, dude. Like, I can't believe I'm watching this.
Starting point is 00:38:04 I don't think I've ever seen a stadium like that before. Yeah. I mean, it was just frenetic and psycho, like in that stadium. I literally, the England fans, how did they get them out? No, you have to watch, like, Copa Libertadores games, at Boca,
Starting point is 00:38:21 or something like that. But, like, it's not even, even that had, like, this was like Istanbul meets Buenos Aires meets, you know, everything you could want in a football match. Meets the, like, Serbian basketball games. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, seriously, like, did Sicario get them out of the stadium? I wanted to see that.
Starting point is 00:38:42 And also, just, like, was there, like, a nurse Joker situation for Jordan Henderson? Like, I'm worried about him. A nurse joker. A nurse joker situation. So it's just like walking away from the hospital. I have seen him in a cast, so he has since gotten out of surgery. But did you see that when England was coming to Azteca, they had the pickup trucks leading in the bus that are the same pickup trucks from Sakari.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Yeah. Oh my God. Yesterday truly was the day of the Soldado. I almost didn't want the match to start because all of the footage was so incredible. all of like the social media, like the buildup was so... It was down to the hour delay. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I mean, yeah. And the fireworks the night before. Also, just for us to be American snobs, seeing people react as if like, this is zero class from the Mexicans, as if like, that doesn't happen every Champions League knockout. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Like, it's one of the coolest things. It makes you feel like you're on the team. Yeah. Like, I'm... Yeah. The funniest example of... of that, of course, is 74. The German
Starting point is 00:39:55 tabloid, whatever, build sent in, like, sexy girls for a sexy girl party, pool party to, like, party with the Dutch. And the night before the final, they released it like in the, and all of them were on the phones with their wives
Starting point is 00:40:11 until, like, 5 a.m. Yeah. Like apologizing. Yeah. This is like what we were saying about Algeria, Austria last week, where it's like, I'm not saying it's good, I'm just saying it's not new. Yeah. Oh, no, no. It's always been crap. And going back to your point about a ball in the middle of a field and guys wanting to kick it about and fight each other,
Starting point is 00:40:31 that is literally what this game started off as. Yeah. It started off as guys from Eaton trying to fight guys from a factory with a ball in the middle of the field. Yeah. And that was like sporting and posh to have like a brutal, like a salt. It was kind of like, yeah, it was more akin to like the basketball that you play in the pool.
Starting point is 00:40:51 You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Just like elbows and like, yeah. And dude's drowning. Let's do England, Mexico first, right? Just last point. Down to the soft power propaganda of the regime.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Like Donald Trump's like getting the red card dismissed. Oh my God. The same, exactly. I do want to say. So we are recording this on Monday. They play tonight. I, regardless of whether every other country, would or wouldn't try to do this.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Do you think it's bad sports karma that you did it? Lie about it. Just lie about it. It's like the Venezuela thing, right? Like, it's just lie. Like, Trump was like, and so like we just sent in Delta Force and we paid off like some schmuck cousin. And it was so easy.
Starting point is 00:41:43 And now we're going to steal the oil. We've always stolen the oil. Just don't say that you're stealing the oil. They could feel better about this process. Yeah, just send Kissinger into the locker room and say, if you don't lose, we will give you the wall, okay? And then act like, oh, Peru naturally lost 6-0, okay? Just the, it's not classy, right? We used to have guys that went to Yale that were in some sort of secret society where they did, like, they did battle reps from history against each other, and it's not as badass as it sounds.
Starting point is 00:42:16 And they used to kill the president, but guess what? They wore a suit, okay? and that we just want the get the Yale guys back in there now I'm going on Tend. What is this Fetterman with his hoodies? They used to have class. Okay, no
Starting point is 00:42:30 just absurd and now come on, let's go Kevin DeBrona, Remantata, the Americans, I'm done with America. No, if they don't win it makes it bad, right? But they have to win this match. Yes, I think if they win,
Starting point is 00:42:48 whether or not there will be an asterix I think we've seen that like the way that people consume information and news goes so fast that I don't think that people are going to be like well I can't really be happy about this because Balgwin had a red card he's not R9 yeah he's not a fucking
Starting point is 00:43:06 rando nosario he's not like yeah he's not he's not a central figure in that squad they could have won it without him uh Trump said it was their best player So you know what, Trump, I respect, nothing but respect for the office of it. Okay, anyway, England, Mexico, in the Azteca, the ghosts of the head of God. Just literally, I'm still catching my breath from that match last night. The rain, the atmosphere, the fucking penalties, the fucking sending off.
Starting point is 00:43:38 It had everything. It is arguably, were it not for the messy game, the best game of the World Cup. in a World Cup that every single fucking game is a fucking all-timer. And it had the thing that we've been talking about this entire show, which is the best players playing the best and the biggest games,
Starting point is 00:43:57 which is what I think is really cooking everyone's noodle is Holland introducing himself to 100 million people that didn't know who he was or didn't really know he was like that. Jude and Harry getting after it in this match and being like, we're actually better than you guys
Starting point is 00:44:13 and we are going to, like, show you. Belling him in the first half, like, and it had a 4-4-2, Chris. It had a 4-4-2. Here's my big takeaway from this one. Yes. Is Tuchel what we thought Carlo was? Tuchel is now going into Moron season.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I'm sorry, like, they accomplished what he almost fucked up, which is they played such a high press. there was so much space between the rest of the team and their front three and they just gave Mexico possession but what they did was they shith housed it
Starting point is 00:44:51 to the first drinks break. Yes. Which mind you, because of the temperature in my studio that I'm shooting this right now, I think we will begin to institute hydration breaks.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Yes, we will. Okay. And it's kind of amazing to watch the managers adapt to the reality where you can tell they're kind of playing to the break.
Starting point is 00:45:12 yes and in the s teca that's what you have to do uh there's a really good clip of brad friedel talking about it where he's like you're they're not as good their players are nowhere near as good as yours you have to catch your second breath and the england uh one of the assistant coaches i forgot his name he was like we wanted to go into the end of the first quarter quarter i know uh nil-nill-nil and they accomplished it they gave mexico far too much of the ball but as you were saying before moments, guys, Jude cracked two, and then the clearance at the far post.
Starting point is 00:45:48 The clearance at the far post. I mean, that is, it was what would have been remembered about that match, had it not come so early in the match, and had it not, just the entire energy of the entire thing, been so frenetic and insane.
Starting point is 00:46:04 So, how did we, yeah, go ahead. The reason why I said the Carlo thing is we were like, Carlo just understands man management, and he understands where to put guys on the field in positionally. Not necessarily like mind-blowing tactics, but like I want to have Martinelli play here. That's what we thought Carlo was going to do
Starting point is 00:46:22 and he got his pants pulled down. In this match, when Conza goes off, Tusha was like, this is why I brought Danburn. Is that like we are going to win or lose in the 90, well, plus 11. And not, I'm not playing for pens. If this goes to extra time, we're dead. because we've been running around up at altitude
Starting point is 00:46:43 with 10 men. So what he does is he brings on burn for the exact right moment that he has to, which is dealing with 700 crosses at Azteca in a fucking lightning storm. There is only one guy you can bring for that. And it's this 6'7 monster who'll put his space into a bicycle kick.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Yeah. He's already than 100 feet higher. Yeah. And then when he bet it all and put, he pulled cane, he pulled Saka, he pulled knee, go and he pulled Anderson and he puts on all those fucking centerbacks he's just like we're going to deal with it it's going to be a war but we are dealing with it I had nothing with respect for that it's he parked the bus but he parked the bus in a way that was just like if this doesn't work
Starting point is 00:47:27 I'm willing to die on my shield right here two guys really fucking put in massive shifts first is princess dion on the left as an out ball I mean Gordon was fucking running for 90 minutes he was insane He left him on to be the outlet. It was nuts. They need to make a beanie baby of Anthony Gordon, I think. Yeah. They need to make... Did you see Aguirre say fuck you to him, like, and laugh?
Starting point is 00:47:52 But, like, when he was like... It was amazing. I love the chippiness. I loved how chippy it was. I loved how, like, literally the... Also, him and fucking Jude as a front line with, you know, what was it, eight centerbacks behind them. Yeah, Conza, Stones.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Gehie, yeah. Jen Spence, who I would say utility men could play anywhere on the pitch. No, genuinely speaking, Sam loved that. Sam loved that. Thanks, brother. Thanks, brother. No, genuinely speaking,
Starting point is 00:48:25 the game had so many phases, right? You had the, like, why are they giving Mexico so much of the ball? Then you had the two minutes of, like... Do you think to your first point, do you think that that was because of Declan's yellow? Like, do you think that threw them off to get a yellow in the midfield.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Like the most important player they've got in a lot of ways gets a yellow in the first minute. And it's like, oh, crap, is this going sideways already? It caused everyone to lock in and like focus, I think, genuinely speaking, because it's like a roll of the dice. After those two goals, everyone's thinking, oh, yeah, second deck have to come off, right? And then Canonis, Asimo, Gion, All-Star, first, first, geez, Jesus Christ, this guy, we're going to miss him for four years. Where does he go, Saudi? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:15 What are his stats in Saudi? He's got, I think he had like 31 goals. Jesus Christ. In front of, like, guys that fly out only fans models and poop on them. Sorry, I shouldn't have said that. Well, they fund the show. How did Duran not have stats like that? Remember?
Starting point is 00:49:33 You did for a second, but then, do you, like, he went off the plot? What happened to Ivan Tony? Was he banging him out there? Oh, yeah. Okay. How many goals does he have? I mean, Penhaldo scores there. 32.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Oh, better than Kinone, yes. One less. Kinone said 33. Okay. Genuinely, that's the player of Mexico's tournament. Mexico doesn't leave that match with their heads hanging low. After bringing it back to 2.1, they closed that half really well. And it required a lot of heroic saves and a lot of heroic saves and a lot of,
Starting point is 00:50:10 of heroic like, you know, like the fucking clearance off the line in Jude. Second, third quarter, I think England got it together, right? And at 3-1, I'm like, oh, this is being put to bed. Right. The red card changed everything. Then I think what you were describing is the Southgate DNA. I think that England were like, we're not going to be too proud. Like, I think like Brazil was.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Like Brazil, I think, is a squad where you can't get 11 guys behind the ball. Yeah, and Carlo got spooked and brought Namor on too. I know. And nil, no. I know. I feel like it's sad. When he was talking shit in the grill of Norway, like a goalie, whatever. Anyway, so, so, yeah, genuinely speaking, where does this leave England?
Starting point is 00:50:59 England has a path now. They have Messi in the semis. They have Norway next match. Benedict Arnold himself, Erling Holland, is going to be coming up against them. after he was born in our beautiful, beautiful kingdom, you know. And he turns his back. He turns his back the raiding marauders of that. The row thing, I think, is lame, okay?
Starting point is 00:51:23 I think it's lame. I talk to Norwegians. They think it's lame too. Actually, they're like, there's a complicated debate on the left about it. It's so funny. They're so funny. They all have health care, and they're debating about a, year. No, I want to give just Anthony Gordon
Starting point is 00:51:43 and this was the Jude game, I think, in his England history. I think it's fair enough to say. Would you say the same? It's just like, it's also like he's the one that never seems spooked by it. Like that's the thing is it's like, I wonder whether or not we, it's not that we overestimated as Tekka. But these guys have all played at Galatasarai. They've all played at PSG.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Like they've played in like they, he plays at the bird of bail. Like he knows pressure. Yeah. Are you not entertained? Yeah. And I thought that header, I was like,
Starting point is 00:52:19 that dude's about to go flying through the net head first. Like that's how much he wants it. Yeah. Of their two moments, guys, the cool like contrast between the two is, we were saying, I was saying to Waz's last episode, like Kane thrives in calmness
Starting point is 00:52:36 and having his brain completely empty and just thinking about, about like the attempt on goal and like just kind of like trying different attempts around a keeper like throughout a 90 minute span. Yeah. Jude thrives on chaos. And that game state required chaos and he rose the occasion. He is for me the England player of the tournament. But it's obviously close.
Starting point is 00:52:57 It's not even worth debating. I mean, it's one or the other. The funny thing on the horizon is day game Miami, Norway, England. Yeah. Well, there will be. That's a trap. That's a trap game in some ways because you get through Azteca and then you start dreaming about Argentina and you got to take care of business against Soto Garden and Holland. What day is that match?
Starting point is 00:53:19 Saturday, it's at 5 p.m. Eastern, I think. Yeah. If six days of recovery, I don't know if Jordan Henderson will be ready by then. I think he might not. Yeah. Jordan Henderson's gone, obviously. He's with Kobe's broken arm guy in Switzerland right now. So there is a roster crisis.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I think it's fair enough to say, right? It's the nice thing about this English team is they're relatable. I would have been Jordan Henderson if I had been on that team. I would have got a yellow card on the sideline and then I would have fallen down celebrating Wonderwall. It was a very like Don Zimmer being thrown down by Pedro moment. Right? It was like you can't not laugh. It looked so painful.
Starting point is 00:54:03 It looked brutally painful. It was like it broke it. It was like a spaghetti. You just saw it like a fold like an accordion in his arm. They need a vet presence in the locker room. And I think that this is a crisis. They need Jarrell Kwanza in the next match available. This is a massive crisis that's going into the next match.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Is Rich James ever going to play again? Is he out for this tournament? He was getting into it with a Choa on the sideline. So I was like, oh, is this like a prelude to him? I thought you were going to say cholo. No, with a cholo. Yeah, he's like the Smith saw, the Smiths are actually not the best band of all time. Yeah, it must have been hard for them to, like, go against the Depeche Mode Smith's country.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Seriously. Yeah, yeah, they really rock with it. Maybe it's American Mexicans Borough. There is one person, I think, they can maybe, Labor has a new leader in Parliament. Britannia has, someone is at the wheel again. Prime Minister and waiting, Andy Burnham, yeah. he he he he plays ball also there's a clip of him uh scoring a class finish i think trump loved going to buckingham palace i think he's got sway with fita you got to get this quonson card
Starting point is 00:55:18 special relationship yeah you got to get it out and then you got a petition to to have another vet brought in and you know who that man is it's pretty obvious trend he's at no come on Baller, Bowden. Harry McGuire. He's at the ready. McGuire's on fire. He's signing pinnini stickers in Miami. He's been there the whole time.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Maybe the right one for you. He's been in jail in America the whole time? No, that was in Greece. He cleared it up. One last guy, I asked one last boring question, which is I saw a lot of critique of Mexico for just lumping in crosses for 40 minutes. It's Mexico.
Starting point is 00:55:59 I didn't really, like, they're not Bayern Munich. I don't really know they're not going to carve England up when England's just going to be standing in their own box the whole time, right? But they're supposed to be doing Croif turns for like 90? No, it's Mexico. And guess what? It almost worked. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:13 It nearly worked. I mean, they're striking a place for wolves. Like, it's just like it, honestly, credit to them. They were like, they had a ton of chances. It was hell, it was white knuckle. Like, I don't think that they leave that if their fans are giving them. I mean, I know it was more like online. Punditry, like, that was bad tactics.
Starting point is 00:56:33 And I was just like, I don't know. It's like usually, that's the easiest way to attack a big block like that. It's going to be 44 years before they could L.Tree make it to the quarterfinals. Poor guys. Cape Verde Arsantino. Let's talk about it. I, for me, I turned to my girlfriend's brother. I was watching it with him.
Starting point is 00:56:56 And I said, I said that was beautiful. Yeah, the first one. It was. It was. one of the most incredible matches I've ever watched in my entire life I think we were saying before that it was like pure cinema
Starting point is 00:57:08 it's like a cliche I just in the scope of sports games I can't like where for me what's the most special is like when I have like an emotional attachment to something when deck hit those two free kicks against Rail Madrid
Starting point is 00:57:25 it was like it meant something to me when Kobe had the 60 obviously it meant something to me the fact that I didn't know any of these people's names at all. Yeah. No one, and if you said, Sam, even Sam didn't even attempt to lie that he knew any of their names.
Starting point is 00:57:42 You did say you knew one of them. Well, he played for Benfica. Who was it? Cabral. He's lying. No, I mean, the players were at the Argentina bus because they wanted to meet Messi. They're going to be able to tell their
Starting point is 00:57:57 families and grand because they played against Messi, and they almost beat him. There was a post somebody did where it was all of the Cape Verde players. Their most recent Instagram post was any shot of them with Messi. Yeah. And it was like nine of them. But it was like same, dude. That's what I would do.
Starting point is 00:58:16 It's the most beautiful, like, sporting event I've ever seen. It's just these guys that were fearless in the face of, like, demons. The best player of all time. both of the criminals scored also you got you got Christian Romero and you got the butcher gate goals
Starting point is 00:58:36 although they ruled out they said an old goal in the Romero thing Sam but that wasn't fair right it was on frame I think it was probably a little wide no they wanted to take the assist away from Messi
Starting point is 00:58:51 everyone knows that Infantino wants Messi out of this turn no I mean I guess it leaves Argentina with the tastiest path to the final and it kind of gives us just like a collision course for a rematch of the last World Cup final. Sure.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Speaking of like when you said games in the World Cup typically aren't like this, I think maybe there was something in the cosmos. I get so like hokey like when I talk about ball, but like something in the cosmos changed. the last final changed things and now everything is chaotic and like incredible these games are supposed to suck
Starting point is 00:59:34 and like even the games that suck are amazing like even France Paraguay was incredible because France was like we're not going to fucking succumb to this like too bad you know like and they're laughing at those guys like in Cape Verde Argentina the thing that was obviously amazing
Starting point is 00:59:52 was Cape Verde like going for it My favorite moment of that match was when Argentina scored their third, I think. Scoloni grabbed, like, Taglia Faco and Montiol. And he was like, nobody fucking plays anymore. Like, no more football. Like, all you guys do is stop these guys. Yeah. Yeah, Messi signed Vosina for Inter Miami after the match.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Which is, like, funny. Like, the only people he ever gives flowers to are goals. Holy's. Like there was a Champions League match, Celtic Barcelona 2-1, and he said Fraser Forster. He said, is not from this planet. Messi said, is not from this planet about Fraser Forcer.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Granted, he was on an absolute heater. It was incredible to see, like, I mean, that is like the game or day of his life. When they hit that equalizer in extra time, I just kept screaming, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. The added element for me, I'm sorry, I'm going to dick right again, of like the chance of like saying that this could be goodbye. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:06 It just made it, it just made it like, you know, all the more like insane and incredible. We haven't even mentioned Croatia, Portugal yet. That's how insane this World Cup is there. You know, that game was maybe the fourth. the craziest game of the weekend. And, like, I don't understand, like, how in, like, how are they getting every single one to be this nuts?
Starting point is 01:01:33 We're recording now. I have no idea what's going to happen in Spain, Portugal. It could be even crazier. No, it's going to be boring. They're going to, like, let C.U, like, win it. Maybe see you next fucking World Cup when you're 46 years old in Portugal. See you next World Cup when you're 46 years old in Portugal. Cut that guys.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Come on, cut that, guys. I, yeah, there's, the way Messi took down that, that through ball and, and just one touch and then fired it in, I was like, and the way that this goalie, who was a nobody nothing, was unbeatable at the time. Yeah. It's just like, I don't understand how they could keep topping it. and it's just like it's so cool that for work I have to watch this and I can't I can't be told not to be right though because like every time he gets
Starting point is 01:02:29 the ball like there is like a weird like pregnant moment where you're like oh man like this is probably one of the last like 100 times I'm going to see him do this you know what I mean like I know he might keep playing for inter and maybe he goes super hero and plays one more World Cup I don't know if that's impossible but yeah like During that Cape Verde thing, I was so torn between wanting Cape Verde to pull up the greatest upset maybe in sports history versus wanting Messi to stay in the tournament. The Honorie, like, after the whistle was like the story is not the result. The story is these guys that they did something so. What was their FIFA ranking?
Starting point is 01:03:12 In the hundreds. In the hundreds? He's wrong. And then I think we're booking tomorrow. Okay. It, yeah. Let's go a golden boot tally. Let's go through it.
Starting point is 01:03:28 The really dope thing is that Messi, Holland, and Mboppe are all on even goals at seven. Yeah. Is Kane has six? Kane is at six, yeah. But that's because of the agenda. That's because of the anti-British agenda. that's because he shares more and then
Starting point is 01:03:50 of course Cristiano Ronaldo right in their heels at three yeah so I think he's an outside chance depending on what happens today real quick Norway Brazil
Starting point is 01:04:01 did Carlo get too stupid okay that's the real question like Martinelli changed the game when he came off I thought the profile of the game changed to be fair
Starting point is 01:04:13 they could have very easily won that match they missed a penalty and Andrick just blew a one-on-one with the keeper Holland announced himself he had a moment I think Norway now
Starting point is 01:04:26 Who had a run? I didn't notice Who is the centerback who was guarding Holland Allison Becker? Is he playing centerback? The keeper was Allison Becker from Liverpool
Starting point is 01:04:37 Okay Yeah yeah he's the He wasn't done any favors by his defense He plays ahead of Mar-Dashvili Yeah Okay Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Yeah. Yeah, Gabrielle's crap, you know my agenda. I want him out. He's terrible on the bowl. Who's the centerback? Him was the center. Okay. Holland announced himself, any other takeaways from that match?
Starting point is 01:04:59 No, I feel like they... I feel like that's probably the last big Namar moment we're going to get in his career. Speaking of, like, goodbyes. I wonder whether he's done on the national team after this. We don't even recognize that that was. goodbye to Namor. That's how insane, like the,
Starting point is 01:05:19 just like the next match is coming and there's something even crazy where we have to focus on. Yeah, it's like they were talking his lot on about it after the match and he was like, this is a guy who's like won plenty of trophies
Starting point is 01:05:30 and played well for his country in clubs, but there always is going to be a feeling like there was something more that could have been achieved. Special Namar memory in international tournaments, I think, was the goal against Croatia,
Starting point is 01:05:44 where he, needed that extra touch because he knew that it would have been cleared on the line and then he roofed it. I watch that all the time. He's the most what if superstar. I think we've seen the last 20 years. Yeah, I
Starting point is 01:05:59 remember, actually fun fact, do you know what Barcelona did for him to get him to finalize the deal? When he was leaving from Santos, they organized an orgy for his father in London. That's cool. Yeah. He's a family
Starting point is 01:06:15 man. He loves his family. Okay. Franz Paraguay, I said to Guas, you need a racist low block to defeat this team. It was a perfect blueprint
Starting point is 01:06:25 for the racist low block. There was a member of parliament. She says something, it was like, it was like she was in Nuremberg in front of a fucking, like, a hundred thousand. So awful, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Horrific, the way, like, the other thing is this, like, no one registers, like, Mbapé, like, gets just as bad a treatment as Vinny or any other, like,
Starting point is 01:06:46 of color, especially after the last World Cup. There was an incident with Enzo, of course. You need to literally approach France, like their PSG, in the championship final, as I said, last episode. And, like, what you have to do is, like, recognize you don't have as many good
Starting point is 01:07:04 players. You have to have 11 players buy-in and, like, be psychos. And the only team, I think, remaining that's equipped to, like, defend for their lives is Argentina, I think, at this point. England doesn't have enough talent. They can buy in, but I don't see them being talented enough to actually pull that off.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Any other takeaways from Franz Paraguay? Manukono come down to Liverpool FC, play with a real club, let's go, be our number six, play with Grav. I loved when he blew up, like, he basically did Paraguay to Paraguay. So you're done with Endo? a loser. I believe he's quite injured. Okay. I'm just saying he's a loser. I think he's a great
Starting point is 01:07:51 vibes guy. I don't know if he should play defensive midfield for us. And then I loved that Olisei is like single-handedly able to destroy somebody try to do shithousery on France because he can just like cut in and dribble 30 yards
Starting point is 01:08:07 and nobody can bring him down and nobody can touch him. He's next. Do you think he has more dribbles than French words? Like, you know, Like, honestly, like, that's terrible. More completed dribbles or French words that, yeah. Why does he play for them? It's insane.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Umbapé, fun fact, has never lost a World Cup match. Isn't that crazy? Did you see there's an image of, like, a bunch of Paraguay fans and then a dude standing in an Mbaparte dictator t-shirt, like, among them? It's going to get to his head. Honestly, Marino might just have him sent to Guantanamo. Like, I don't know how those two personalities are. going to drive.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Norway, Brazil, we talked about USA Belgium coming up over the Verizon tomorrow. We're going to talk about it tomorrow. But the red card, honestly, it's a little bit just lie. Just say Infantino realized
Starting point is 01:09:03 that the ref was taking money from what he called Bosnia. Just say the VAR assistant was watching something else when he was supposed to be watching. Like, I don't know. Frame him. Dude, just like, what happened to the David Stearns of the world?
Starting point is 01:09:19 Okay? This, like, just, just, like, hide the body, okay? Throw him into the sea, international waters. I'm exhausted. Yeah. I love you. Hydration. I love sports summer.
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