The Adam Friedland Show (Cumtown) - ZOHRAN MAMDANI Talks Meeting Trump, Mayoral Election, Arsenal

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

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What do you think of it? Like, what's the game plan there? Honestly, I knocked out on the plane. I mean, you looked like, you looked a little bit. Look, that was the joke on the internet. You look a little bit like you took the edit, you hit the nothing, right? You can say it. You look a little bit like you hit the edible before the flight.

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Elect. Elect. Congratulations. How are you doing? How are you doing? Good. It's funny, like when I met you, we just talked about sports. I wasted your time like four days before an election.

I thought it was great. I know. We talked about all of our collective pain. Yeah. The game's on right now, the North London Derby's on right now. 3-0, maybe. You said you've been too busy even, you've been too busy. running for mayor to watch the games this year now you're making me too busy to watch

but like we'll get an update if it's for shit this is unprofessional I thought I'm got a someone text me oh shit you need to see this oh no guys eyes around are you doing right here what i just want to say a massive massive congratulations on what you've achieved um the real work no starts now but god willing you can achieve everything that you have um i love you to achieve you're gonna need some of that how did you do this winning energy that you've got my friend and get behind the boys it's a long way to go i'm gonna cry you just have to stay calm, back Mikkel, and all the boys. Up the gunners, baby.

Take it easy and God bless, my friend. I just got a tech. My boy. I'm just going to watch it again. Yeah, just watch it here. I just want to say a massive, massive congratulations. I love this man. He's the best guy of all time.

Have you seen the video where he is reunited with his teacher? Mr. Pigeon. I thought you was dead. I thought you were dead. We have, okay, here's the problem, guys. I don't want to expose you, but we, can we, we, yeah, just, we, it's, I mean, you're right, right, right, okay, uh, what a man, how did I do that? I really, really bothered. And you actually, and I thought there was something wrong. I, I, I know, yeah, yeah,

Mr. President. I don't know where you were going. No, no, it's not a, it's not a, no. How did you do that? I, I, I, I knew that it was going to be. I love him. I love him so much. he's the best guy of all time you know his background story he was like working at a factory and then he tried to get he's like I'm going to try it one more time and then he went to Crystal Pals

these are like the stories I would read when I was 17 and I'm the due team of a travel team in New York City what position did you play wrong science I played up top up top yeah you were a nine I think I was 23 okay but you were a striker

yes it said no relation to the number back of my jersey we have like a lot of our brain is occupied by the most useless information related to this, to this soccer. Every day I wake up, I think about Sebastian Squalachi. Oh my God. Pascal Sagan. I think about...

Marwan Sharmak. Yeah, when I caught you, like, I'd be a little bit of a politician because I said that Ospina was giving me nightmares and you're like Jackson Heights is in the balance. Yeah, it's like, can you lay off my Columbia goal for a moment? No one cares. No one cares. We're embarrassing ourselves. Okay.

You grew up in the Upper West Side. Yeah, New York City kid. Yep. Yes, sir. Yeah. Where did you go up? Well, we actually, we both lived a little bit as kids in Cape Town. Yeah.

You lived in Cape Town? Yeah, where did you live? Observatory? I lived in Oranizert. That's where my mom grew up. From 96 to 99. My mother grew up in Orange, Zacht. Both my parents are from Cape Town.

What? I was born in L.A. My dad was on a list of some sort. You got to get me more than that. My dad and mom both went to university, London we're Jews from Cape Town and then they met in South Africa they met at home in Cape Town they kept getting set up on blind dates and she was like this fucking guy again and then somehow he wore it down and then she they got married and he got a letter

to that he was being sent to Angola to the Civil War and so they left they just what when did they make them what year 82 so I was born in LA okay and you've been to my dad was on an enemies list because of the part-time regime. And so I lived there when I was a kid. And then I was there back, my granny is from C-point. None of the grannies left. And actually, are they still there?

Grady's still there, 94. She just got a hip. You want to send her a video? Let's do it. Hi, hi, granny. Yeah. Congrats on your hip. Congrats on the hip.

Congrats on the hip. Esther, congrats on the hip. I promise I'm trying my best in life. No, she's very proud of me. I told her I have the mayor coming on. And, uh, no, no, so yeah, my Diba actually was, he was like, when I was a kid, I used to write my, like, uh, essays, like, who's your hero on, uh, on my Diba. Because, like, it connected me to my parents, because, like, it was like, you know, he's amazing. Yeah, yeah.

So, but he went to our synagogue after, after he got out of jail, he was elected, and he was like, you got to tell your kids to come back because we need everyone to build a country. And, like, my parents' whole generation of Jews. So why are you not following Madiba right now? I, because I had to talk to you, you know, and I got this studio, and it's fucking, it's a lot. It's a lot of, you know, I, last time I went back was in 2010, for the World Cups. Do you fucking hate it. Do the Jabalala. Was it, what, was it obnoxious?

Voovoozella. Yeah, could you not hear anything? You hate it if you're not the one doing it, and I was one of the people doing it. You got one. Yeah, I brought them back. I brought them back to Maine. I bought one back to Maine. Yeah, yeah, to college.

I went to a D3 basketball game. My roommate was on the basketball team. And I had the Vuvuzella. Yeah. I think I was at Bates College, and I pulled it out, and I blew it, and the ref stopped the game. You need to fucking stop. Yeah, yeah. And you're like, come on.

Didn't you see the World Cup? Didn't you see the ball that went in all different directions? But I was at the Ghana Uruguay game. No. That's where I cried in public. No. Yeah. Luis Suarez.

Asimoa Guyan. Dude. Bar. Guys, this is like... It was the closest... The mayor caring about soccer is... The mayor caring about Arsenal is like Wakanda for me. It's like, I feel like, it's like representation.

Do you remember that tweet? You're one of us. I remember your tweet. No, no, no, not the, what is it, Ruth Konda forever? Ruth, oh my God. You know, like, when I met you, one thing that was, like, remarkable is like, we were talking about soccer and hip-hop. Yeah.

And I was like, we are losers. I was like, we're the same, like, we're the same generation, right? It dawned on me that my entire life, this kind of feels like the first time that someone from my generation has ascended to leadership. I guess Mayor Pete did, but he was more of a suck-up to the parents. You're more of one of us, I think. He couldn't laugh at that or he could laugh at that. You're mad at me? She gets mad at me.

She yells at me, Olivia. Can you tell her and take it easy? Anyway, that's a give it up for Olivia. Why is everyone so nervous? That's Monica. Oh, Amelia, sorry. That's Amelia. Oh, sorry.

Okay, cut that. Okay. How you, yeah, you're mayoring people older than you. Are you getting unked? Okay, can you explain to me, what does unks stand for? Uncle. Someone told me it stood for uncool. No.

It's uncle. It's uncle. You have old hands, unks, and OGs. Just wanted to make sure. Yeah. You were unknown, like a year ago. Yeah, I mean, even my friends didn't know what an assembly member was. Yeah.

I don't know, I still don't know, and I don't want to know, in fact. I mean, you're perhaps one of the most famous people in America right now. I mean, it's weird. Yeah. Have you adjusted to that? I think I try and spend as much time as possible with people I knew before. Yeah. I was.

Yeah. The day ones. The mayor-elect. And I think the nice thing about being an assembly member is I was still working in politics, but I was also walking around my neighborhood like anybody else. Yeah. I mean, I went to... You went to the White House, okay?

I went to the White House. I was going to tell you I went to Dwayne Reed, but both of them are true. Okay, let's start on the Dwayne Reed. Okay, start on the Dwayne. We went in there, pick up something from the apartment. This guy in front of us has a pack of condoms and breathments, and he turns around, he goes, Mr. Mayor. And he looks at my wife, he goes, Mrs. Mayor!

And that's our experience now at Dwayne Reed. Yeah, and... That's life and Astoria. Oh, the condoms had... I don't know. He was like, Mr. Mayor, I'm about to lose my virginity. He left it, but... I would like you to know.

I'm about to become a man. He just gave the... titles what was it was this last year feeling yeah and what is the adjustment been like like I mean it's it's to be honest with you I haven't spent all that much time reflecting on it you should it's so go go go you should just work a lot yeah have you checked the red it's something like the inner voice is there a Zoron mom don't you read it I don't know is there probably don't check it though no yeah just don't read the comments no I always forget to put the

extra slash are when I'm like typing in the URL so I don't even what is I give what is it like like you're like you go to the you don't know the white house right you take a selfie on a plane yeah no caption that is like drake vibes a little bit hit the emoji though you hit the emoji you know what you think about the plane what do you think like you what's the game plan there honestly i knocked out on the plane you slept slept it's a 30 minute flight i mean you looked like you looked a little bit like that was the joke on the internet i don't know if i can make these jokes like a little bit like you took the ad of you hit nothing right you can say it You look a little bit like you hit the edible before the flight.

Why would you say that? I'm sorry, Mr. May. Why would you say that? Why would you say that? I don't know. I apologize. You walk in, like, did he give you a tour of the White House? He gave me a tour of...

What was the weirdest thing he showed you? The Oval Office in the Cabinet Room. What's that way... He had to have shown you something. One thing weird. I mean, he showed me the... Showed me the portraits of all the presidents in the cabinet room. Yeah, he saved the FDR for you.

The FDR was beautiful. It was really nice. And we talked about FDR for a little bit. And honestly, you don't have the LaGuardia record if you don't have FDR. Yeah. But we talked about that. I walked in, first you get there, and it's just you alone, and there are two people like guiding you through to get to the Oval Office. And they're like, you know, they want you to see this room and that room.

And then I sit down waiting. for the time of the meeting and in front of me are like all these different coffee table books and one of them is UFC at the White House Oh yeah, he's bringing it there, right? I had no idea but I was Yeah, just flipping flipping through that Yeah, and so you saw like guys fighting each other?

No, it was just a What was it? It was the visualization. Oh, of like what the Yeah, the octagon is going to be. Yeah, it's going to look like. Are you going to go? No.

Can I ask you a question? Like, how did you not laugh? When the 135? How did you keep the face? during the press conference. Because we were all dying. And I'm like, my boy, Zoran was like just straight face. He said, just tell him yes.

How did you keep that face? Honestly, I was just thinking about New York City. Yeah. I mean, it's like the whole time I was trying to think about the difference between if you have a White House that is working towards an affordability agenda or one that's making it harder to live in the city. Yeah.

That's kind of what kept. Do you feel like, do you feel like as if, you know, the president sees your popularity, you know, he loves the ratings, a ton of reporters, he sees it, I think, handsome, I think he thought handsome. Did you have eyes up here, Mr. President? You were elected because you were trusted on your policies for affordability. Do you think he's maybe a little bit trying to, like, swagger Jack a little bit? You know, I actually think there's, there are a lot of places of disagreement with the president. I think one of the things that was remarkable to me is

I told him that our campaign started on October 23rd of last year but the moment when a lot of people, or not a lot of people, some people started paying attention was after he won the presidency, we did the video on Fordham Road, Hillside Avenue. We talked to Trump voters and we asked them why they voted for him and it just went back to cost of living and went back to cheaper groceries.

And that was a lot of our campaign. And he liked that it was one in ten, right? Yeah, one in ten. I mean, did you see the guy who has the MAGA from Amdanihan? Yeah, yeah. And then he did the... How'd that feel? The Maga Form I'm running.

It was wild. I remember we were going to step... I was going to step on... It sounded like such a fossilist. Everything is we. I was going to step on the stage. At Forest Hills where we were doing our rally. Did you think it was a prank?

Well, I had a member of the NYPD pulled me aside and they're like, I just want you to know that there is a man in your line of sight with a red MAGA hat. We checked and he's actually sincerely here for the rally. Oh, that's. So you really had to bring it. You had to do a Trump-style rally for him. You had to really do YMC.

This guy's accustomed to some wild rallies. This guy's accustomed to a stadium full of... Yeah, it was just me and El Bizgard Church. Yeah, I mean... And somebody from MTV Lebanon. Did you expect him to like you as much as he did? I... I was trying to prepare for a lot of different situations.

I know. It's like when you're on that plane taking that selfie, I mean, that could have gone any... That could have gone in any direction. I mean, like, did that feel best-case scenario? Or, like, were you like... It honestly felt like the most productive... meeting we could have had.

Yeah. I mean, a meeting where we talked about Yulurp, we talked about, you know, groceries, con-ed, rent, child care, that feels like the best meeting you could have. Yeah. We're Eric or Donald Jr. there? No. No. Did you worry that, like, to see that was maybe difficult for them?

I wasn't thinking about that. Maybe he's like, the hang has just been so bad. This cool guy came, and he's like, now have to go back to these guys. Did he say, can you, can you sleep over? Does he come up to New York and see you? He didn't ask me that. Oh man. I mean, it was one of the most surreal things we've ever seen as Americans.

Robin Van Percy against Charlton, baby. What's the score? Three one. What? Who scored? Who scored? What? Did he do the pigeon?

From a halfway line? No, dude, he was being weird about it. He scored from the halfway line? Yeah, he chipped Ryan. What? He was off the, he was off his line? Yeah, it wasn't right his fault. It was honestly just a great play from him.

Why would you say that? Because they're not a threat. They're not a threat. That's the famous last words. What's this time? Okay. What time is there right now? Seventy-fourth minute.

What time is it? 1.2. Did you watch the 4-4 Arsenal, Newcastle? Yeah, we talked about it. It was the worst day of my life. This is an interesting moment for us, because we have, like, an opportunity to have, like, a snapshot of you after an historic election, and prior to the assumption of your, of one of the most, you... of one of the most powerful positions in America. Co-host of the show. Co-host of the Adam Friedel show.

What made you run for mayor? Like, what made you decide to run for mayor? I think one of the things was that I was very frustrated with the fact that Eric Adams, who was at that point running for reelection, was making it more expensive to live in New York City in clear ways that he had direct control over. and then pretending like he was just a bystander. He would write a letter in support of Con Ed when they want to increase gas and electric by more than 60 bucks a month.

He would raise the rent more than 12%. He would increase the water bill. He would... But like the conditions for you, I mean... I mean, for me... You're like, this is the time I'm going to run for me. I think the... The thinking was that

I wanted to make a case specific about cost of living. And there were a lot of people who looked at kind of the swing of our politics and thought that the only way to beat someone heading towards the right is to head towards the right yourself. And you felt like you were to win? I felt like I had a 3% chance of win. And that's probably giving me an extra two points. Did you, was there someone that you, that you spoke to who said don't run? Oh, tons. Tons. Did your girl say that? No, my wife. Your wife? I mean, she's still here a girl.

She's always in your girl. She said run? she she was down for it so you that was the final decision you're allowed you're allowed yeah um is she mad at you for working so much no she's she gets on you she is a little bit she what is she a little bit she gets no but it's annoying for her a little bit she lets you work so much mine this is all permission given mine doesn't no but I think like to be to be honest with you it's to meet someone in one stage of your life yeah and then to have your their life transform what it also just like the the level of love and support it takes from someone I mean I would not be able to do this without her she gets

mad at you for working too much that's not what I feel like I looked into your eyes I see a fellow fellow brother what was the movie you knew you'd win for the primary no the primary and the general I suppose you got two questions you know the there isn't like a single moment Yeah. There is the funny thing to me is that in both of the elections from 6 to 9 p.m. I thought I was going to lose of election day. Because there was like bad, like exit polling?

In the general, there was a rumor at around 6 o'clock that there were two major news networks that had bad exit polls. Yeah. And that showed Cuomo with an advantage. He started that rumor. I mean, definitely worked. Ruined my night. You did it ruin my night. Primary?

I remember Kevin, Kevin Ellis. How did you fall for that? I'm such remarkable. Kevin Elkins, who was working on Cuomo's campaign, put out a tweet like, I guess the most important things that everybody had fun. I was like, oh man, this means they know they're going to win. And he's saying that to us. He's in a room full of four guys at the election night party. You're in a stadium.

You're in a stadium in front of a Dori fan. I think you should have looked around. Yeah, but never, I mean, this is like, you know, being an Arsenal fan. It's the hope it kills you. It's never done until. That meant so much to me. I know exactly what you're talking about. You cannot count it.

It's a reminder that you're going to die one day. It's like you think that once, any time you think something good is going to happen, it just goes away. You have to hold it. I think it's made us better people, though. Yeah. I mean, we've had to deal with disappointment for decades. I think if we were like Ray Al Madrid fans, we'd be like cheating on our taxes. We're like, I'm going to live forever.

We have affairs. Multiple families. Create a retractable roof. I think for us, we're like, we're like, it's going to all go away. so I have to, like, make, take advantage of the time I have. It means nothing to these people. Okay. Wait, what's the, what's the?

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combine that yeah and everybody And I think it's tough because sometimes the more fluency and experience you have in government, the less imagination you have as to what government could be because you've had to deal with its failures for decades. You've been in the cigar rooms, yeah. And I think we've made a few appointments so far. The first appointment, to me, Dean Fulahan was the first deputy mayor. I appointed him and El Bisgaard Church is my chief of staff. Elle is somebody I've known since I've been in office.

So I hired her as my chief of staff when I was in the assembly, which... She's been with you, yeah. From the jump, and she's incredible. And Dean is somebody who'd been in government for 47 years, and he'd worked as a first deputy mayor before. He'd worked as the head of the budget before. He worked in Albany. And the thing that I love about him is that he's worked through all of that.

And still, his orientation is how do we make a no into a how when it comes to any political problem? And that's a lot of people lose that, the longer they work in government. Do you remember the Knight Obama one? Like, do you remember, like, how, like, what it felt like, where, like, America is different now? You feel, like, to me, the first generational talent that's come out of the progressive side of politics. But what we saw was, like, he wasn't prepared, that that popularity didn't translate to legislative success. Did you take any notes from that?

Did you learn from that? I mean, I'm trying to draw a parallel here. No, I think, look, I think the, the thing. The next challenge now is fulfilling the agenda. This excitement, inspiration, this hope, it will carry us through the beginning of the work, and then you have to start to deliver on the work. And I think that is actually what makes me excited

is that I actually see a path on each of the three key agenda points. And every time you win one of them, it validates people for believing. Because there are a lot of people who, they don't know if they should give themselves permission to hope again, of how many times they've been disappointed. And you have to prove that they were right to believe. You have to give them...

If we've spent an entire campaign talking about freezing the rent for rent, stabilized sentence, fast and free buses, universal childcare, the urgency of starting to deliver on that, it's what makes people understand that they were right to demand more. But is there a balance that you have to strike? Do you have to, like, those people that believe in you,

do you feel like there's a necessity to kind of inoculate them? To understand, it's not going to be overnight, right? Yeah, and I think that's, that you have to be honest about a timeline and that, you know, I'm not going to tell anyone in the first hundred days we're achieving these three things. Yeah. But they have to be able to see that you are working towards it and that you can actually deliver it while you're the mayor. And that's, like, I've been a legislator and the legislature, it's an incredible place for where you can craft bill ideas, vote on them, debate on them.

So much of whether or not they succeed has to do with whether the executive wants to implement them. You could pass it through both houses. And if you have a, you know, when I first came in Albany, Cuomo was the governor. And you knew that the implementation of the law, it could be completely different than what you intended. And now I will be the executive in New York City. And that's also what gives me so much hope is that you have the ability to follow through on so much of this. And we've been told again and again what politicians can't do. It's really what they won't do.

And that's why I'm here on the Adam Free. Yeah, yeah, thank you. There are plenty of ways they can fuck with you, right? Right? Like, and it's not only City Hall, it's like, which is, but it's, you know, Albany, it's D.C. And it's like, it's you going out to see the president, like, showing face and showing abs, maybe.

I don't know what you did. I don't know what you did in that room. Oh, yeah. Are there contingencies in place, you know? Are you prepared for the fight? Because they're going to try to fuck with you. Yeah, I mean, you have to be ready for that. You know it's the worst job that you have.

I don't think, I don't think it's the worst job. Why do you, why are you doing this? Because you get to represent New York City. No, it's the worst job. You get booed everywhere you go. I mean, I used to get booed anyway. I saw Dublasio get booed at a Paul Simon concert. No.

And it was like, an NPR parent family. They were like, they were like, oh, fuck yes. I was like, what is. It's the mayor. You have to get booed. I mean, I don't really what it is. But like, that's also what I love about, like, to be a New Yorker, you're going to hear a lot of people's opinions.

Like, I went to the Wutan concert a few months ago. You got booed? Well, most of the reception is like, great. People are like cheering, waving. they want photos in this one guy's like oh come take a photo me I'm like yeah what's up dog and as soon as we take the photo he pulls out the selfie and then he just flips me off in the selfie that's funny and I'm like respect like you do you a bit though yeah he likes you I do that to my friends all the time yeah no it's not that

it's it's what it is is that it's it's a slog I mean it is a it is definitely a sloth you have to do it your way I assume I think yeah I think a big part of is you have to you have to keep yourself through it all and you have to back between the demands of what the city will require from you and how you don't lose yourself in the process of it. When I was, when I started in local politics, the first organization that I joined was the Muslim Democratic Club of New York. And one of the founders, her name is Ali Al-Latif.

She gave me this advice of whatever you do, make sure you can recognize yourself in the mirror at the end of the day. I think that's a big part of how I'm thinking about this, that work as hard as I can and do so to fulfill the vision we've had, Not to comport yourself for a box that's been created. I met Lena Kahn, she was on the show.

She's great. Real quick, just four-minute warning. Four minute, morning. Can we get a score update? 4-1. It's domination. It's domination. I don't know what else to call it, man.

Do you ever watch the Fox Soccer Channel commercials? No. They used to have the EPO. Yeah, yeah. It'd just be like long commercials of drug bar. Oh, my, don't. This descriptions of a planet of a man. That's the, D.

That's the nightmares we have. The nightmare I have is Diddyan Dragba bullying the defense. You made Senderos cry? Michael Essian's goal? I guess, yeah. Manlina Khan, she was on the show. And like, she's perhaps one of the most impressive people I've ever met. And when I heard she was part of the transition team, I was like, oh, he's got, like, he's got it.

I mean, I, genuinely, I mean, I asked her if she's ever lied, and she said, well, maybe in elementary school. And I don't think, I think that was true. I mean, like, I think it was true. And what was really effective was that she communicated antitrust laws in, like, this complex stuff in a very clear and concise way. Yeah. And sometimes progressives feel like snobs when they're talking to people. I remember, I mean, when I was running for state assembly, we put together our first

palm card. Yeah. And I thought it was absolutely fire. And I remember giving it to a friend of mine, Kara McCurdy, who is a great photographer. And she read it, and she was like, what do these work? me. Yeah. Because so much of the time it feels like we're just speaking to ourselves. I mean, I think that's one thing that is going to be important, is like just communicating not above people's hands. Just actually speaking with them. With people.

And I think that's the, it's, the point is to bring people in to politics. Yeah. Not to condescend to them as to why they're not already there. And it's also just much easier being yourself. Yeah. When you're speaking to people and you're gonna get old you think your face brother you see them always yeah you're going bald already what you mean already i've been going bald what do you do for it i'm just i worry no you do anything you do like monocidal we could go to turkey i that's you go to i'm not going right i go rhinoplasty you go here oh you can't go yeah yeah you're doing great adam we got a wrap okay last last question when i saw when i saw when i spoke to lina she said

one thing that's stuck with me yeah and i said like the most powerful companies is the world the most powerful people in the world like are pissed at you you she had like hundreds of op-eds yeah newspapers no one knew what the fuck the FTC was and her response to me was very impressive it was like she said like I said did you ever clap back or anything she looked like confused and she was like no I just have to like I don't know like win the lawsuit let the work speak for itself if you're getting pumbled in the press like how are you going to keep your horse bladders on and just focus on the agenda you know I think you have to both be responsive, but I think she's right, which she's, there's two things she said about that experience that have really stayed with me.

The first is that you always have to remember that the opinions that you're hearing, that especially from the wealthy and the powerful, they will always be amplified in a way that working peoples are not. And if you remember that context, you take that seriously and you also don't think of it as surround sound in the way that it feels. And part of that means getting out of the office. getting actually into New York City, speaking to people asking them what they're thinking about, what they're worried about. And then the other thing is that every time you win in your agenda,

it proves that people are right to believe in that agenda in the first place. You have to both be able to respond to this and never let it distract you from the work that you're supposed to be doing. Because if she wins that lawsuit, then that's the proof. And if we deliver on this agenda, that's the proof. And I mean, Bernie talks about the thing that people are afraid of

is that the power of example that's what people are fearing not that we won't get it done but that we will Can you get a month Can you text something? I don't have my phone's on me You have his number though You check you should

Oh shit I got No no I got a text Oh shit I'm gonna give me the second time You're a friend Shit Just in right again

Yes No! No! No! And this hair and the Tash, but... Hold on. I got to go from the beginning. Look at our hands with you.

Yes, Zoran. How are you, my friend? We got to go back to you, slow. I don't know if you recognize me with this badge and this hair and the Tash. We love him. We love him. We told me that you guys were going to watch the Garby together. We're now, you know, you made me miss him.

Before after half time, but I'm sure that we're winning somehow. I DM to say that I have this theory That being an Arsenal fan Is heavily linked with being a fucking cool person That my theory is really truly standing right now I've I do It's like when Aiden Ross gave Trump a Tesla It's amazing

Even here in Spain We feel the energy of what's happened I love this guy I love him so much too. He was rapid. Needs right now, what the world needs right now. And man, just sending you lots of love and respect from here, from Spain, from a big Arsenal fan and former Arsenal player to a massive Arsenal fan as well, to you, Adam, as well.

Sending you lots of love, big hug, and hope to see you guys soon. Oh, my God. Enjoy the game. Yes, Zora. I always said this to you. Oh, my God. I'll text these to you. That is...

I have watched... I have... I have... He's our era too. He's our era. He's a style icon. He's incredible. Yeah.

I can't believe I did that. I feel like Oprah right now. You got a car. I'll take you to see you. Hector! I love you. Go ahead. You know, right?

Thank you. What's the score? 3-1. What?