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You want to know what I said? I said Donald Trump created this environment over the past decade. You sat here and said, I need to take responsibility. I'm a 22-year-old YouTuber. You hold me to a higher standard than the man that we just listened to. Donald Trump was just vomiting vitriol out of his mouth about how the other party is weak and evil. And he just said the party of hate, evil, and Satan,

you blind yourself to that, and you're focusing on a 22-year-old YouTuber. Hey, everyone. Adam Mockler here. This is going to be a good video. I just wrapped up my New York Media Week with one final debate on CNN, and I faced off against MAGA commentator and Trump's friend, Scott Jenning. So I urge you guys to watch until the end. I urge you guys to follow the Adam Mockler feed. And once again, thank you all. The series of events that took place here, we have to actually be clear about what happened, right? He tried to pressure Eric Siebert at the Eastern District of Virginia to pursue this prosecution. He did not. The U.S. prosecutors there said

they did not see enough evidence. So he forces him out. He publicly declares to Pan Bondi, you need to target these political enemies, specifically labeling James Comey. And then, right after that, installs Lindsay Halligan, a former insurance lawyer with no prosecutorial experience, to go in there, and then within days, Comey's indicted even after Rankin-Frault prosecutors, they gave her a declination memo that said, this is why we don't think there's enough evidence. So I don't think this is just the process playing out. I think this is Donald Trump explicitly abusing his power and directing the prosecution of a political one to me. You said we have to be very clear about what happened. And then you left out the most critical part where a prosecutor has to go

into a grand jury, present the evidence, and make the case why charges are warranted. And the grand jury has to agree with that. In this case, they did. Now, I don't know if he'll be convicted or not, but you can't leave out and deny that there's a critical step where average ordinary Americans get put in a room and they ultimately have to decide, does a case go or does it not go? And then they will decide whether you're guilty or whether you're not guilty. That is an important part of the process that he cannot really alter or change. Just worth noting, I mean, two things. One, there was a third charge that the grand jury said no to. But also, I mean, this is, you know, you probably will hear a lot about this as this proceeds. Probable cause is

what you need to get a charge, which is a very low bar. Beyond a reasonable doubt is what you need to actually convict. But to Alyssa's point, that may not be the point of the message that's being sent here. Yeah, Donald Trump has done this with a few people. He directly calls out their name online, on his true social, and then within days, you see them either targeted, their show gets pulled off, they get indicted. And when it comes to Eric Siebert, you can sit here and argue that, you know, Trump had nothing to do with this, but it's so clear that he was putting his thumb on the scale when he fired Eric Siebert, and then, what was it, six days before the statute of limitations are up. This new federal prosecutor is rushing this through. And I agree we should let

the process play out. It's fine to let it go through a grand jury. But can you at least concede that Trump was putting his thumb on the scale when he posted Comey's name, what was it, four days before Comey was indicted? I don't think anyone is disputing that he thinks James Comey. Did he put a thumb on the scale, though? Is a bad person who deserves to be investigated? And if a grand jury so chooses indicted. He has tried it. He has never denied that. He has been very clear about it, has he not? Isn't this all just kind of exhausting for the American public? Like, Trump did run on we shouldn't weaponize the DOJ. It's exhausting now?

It was exhausting when Biden did it. It was exhausting. No, no, no, no. I criticized it when Joe Biden did it. But now he's choosing to do the exact same thing at a much grander scale all while there are fewer jobs than there are people unemployed right now. Why is this? I don't know when he was running for president. He had a trial.

Can anyone point to one single example of President Joe Biden? Biden privately or publicly in any documentation documented evidence of our reality directing his Attorney General Merrick Garland to prosecute his political opponents let alone protect his own son who got indicted under his watch when did what what show me he pardoned him show it show me show me the answer to when did he direct Merrick Garland to prosecute Donald Trump I want to hear an answer to that he publicly in a in a Politico story was reported to have been fuming to anyone who would listen that Merrick Garland was not moving fast. Wait, wait, so he told that's what he publicly was fuming privately?

Is that what you said about there? He's asked for evidence of it. He was in a political story there was reporting on it. Did he tell Merrick Garland, I don't know what he did. Prosecute. Oh, here we go. By the way, I don't know a living Democrat who thinks Merrick Garland. I think this is super important.

So are you suggesting that because Joe Biden was angry about something but didn't express it to Merrick Garland that that constitutes. You don't know whether he did or he didn't, but I know it was put in a story. But do you know? This is what you guys just said. He says, he says things. out loud. Joe Biden said things out loud or had it reported in a politico so people would hear it. Factual issue here with this idea that Democrats, Joe Biden, did this to Trump.

I didn't bring up Joe Biden. I'm not the person who rejected this. Listen, where's the proof? Don't we need proof that that actually happened? We either need to agree that weaponizing the DOJ against political adversaries is bad or it's not. I think it's bad regardless of who's doing it. I think that Donald Trump ran on not doing it and he is directly doing it here. Is it not guilty? No, and I'm not prejudging that. I've talked about this extensively on air.

If there is any wrongdoing? It's bad for Trump to place pressure to indict him. I think that putting what looks like a DM to your attorney general on truth social and being like, you know, it's not good. It ain't good. I'm going to ask for them to point out either any example of Joe Biden doing this, no example. Scott Jennings said, I don't know, I don't know anything. That's always your fallback. Donald Trump directly asked Pam Bondi.

There was a story. Do you remember when Biden said, hey, Merrick, can you go after this person? It didn't happen. You have no example. And also, on this. It's literally in the news. I'm sorry. I know you're like 12, but it happened.

It happened. It never was never reported. And also it was reported. It was never reported that he told, they told Merrick Garland to indict. And Scott, that was never reported. We know that. And also, I just have to say, is that what the reporting said or not. Yes.

No, there was a story. The reporting said that he told Merrick Garland. The point of the story was that Joe Biden was mad and he was angry. And the point of the story was that it would get out so that they would feel pressure and move on it. And he told who? It was done in the report. Adam, I want to play what Bill Maher said about this

in the same genre and get your take on the other side. The Democrats definitely need an outsider. To me, the Democratic Party is a ghost brand. And if you could have somebody take it over who's not sentimental about that company and relaunch it, rebrand it, but it would have to be somebody who is unapologetic about calling them out.

People have lost faith in the Democratic Party for very good reasons. And, you know, you're the only one I hear who, like, doesn't look like he cares what the other Democrats will say it. He compared them to Amber Kambi and Fitch, a ghost brand. What do you think? I think that, I mean, he's right that we need more unapologetic Democrats, but it's more than that. The Democratic brand is two things right now. It's a lot of things.

But it's both risk-averse, and it's very, very finger-waggy. So all of our politicians are incredibly risk-averse, so they're not out there to take. taking risks or trying to do new things. I mean, they're playing it very, very safe. Even as much as I love Kamala Harris, and I thought she did well on her campaign, she was very risk-averse during all of that. But on the other side of that, while they're being risk-averse,

they're also just, like, purity-testing everybody and finger-wagging them. I mean, I'm a young dude. I like a little bit of, like, edge in my politicians. I think most young dudes, like, an edgy politician, not somebody who's out there being, you know, super scripted and tested and everything. So all this comes together to create an environment where, like, I had a young friend the other day who is pretty liberal, say that the Democratic Party feels, quote-unquote, suffocating at times.

And I think that's a good way to put it. It's that and academic a lot of times. The simplicity is missing in the message. Donald Trump is being accused of inciting violence after his warning to Democrats. This, in response to the new developments and the deadly attack at an ice facility. The radical left is causing the problem.

They're out of control. They're saying things. And they're really dumb people. I mean, I look at Crockett. I look at some of these people. They're very low IQ people, actually. But the radical left is causing this problem. Not the right, the radical left.

And it's going to get worse. And ultimately, it's going to go back on them. I mean, bad things happen when they play these games. And I'll give you a little clue. The right is a lot tougher than the left. But the right's not doing this. They're not doing it. And they better not get them energized.

That was an odd. thing to say, I mean, in this moment. The point about the kind of anti-ice nature of the shooting is taken, right? We know that. But then for him to say it might come back to them, I'm not sure that that is what's right here. Yeah, I'm pretty tired of conservatives gaslighting about the current political environment and Donald Trump's rhetoric when all of this escalation can be traced back to his entrance into American politics. His claim to fame was saying that Obama wasn't born in America. He was the first presidential candidate to have his crowd chant lock her up about a political opponent. You can bring up the insurrection. Even in the past few weeks, my home city of

Chicago, he posted a photo of Chicago being invaded by the Department of War. So the broader point here is Donald Trump endlessly deflects and tries to blame it on the other side when he is the one responsible for amping up detention in America. And I've spent all of my formative years throughout high school, throughout college, looking to the president, who I'm supposed to be able to look up to, and seeing somebody who's trying to place blame on the left, who's amping up the rhetoric constantly. And, yeah, it's not good. So you think it's Donald Trump's fault

that a deranged leftist climbed up to the top of a building and shot up the ice facility, not once now, but twice in Texas? I think it's Donald Trump's fault that America has gotten to this heated place. I think that... No responsibility for the radicalization on the left that's causing this violent outfuss. That 29-year-olds radicalized by online communities and online algorithms. I'm not going to blame that directly on Trump. But he was caught in a lot of online video game algorithms and all these communities.

Donald Trump, 10 years ago, Donald Trump amped up the tension in America. So he ran 10 years ago, and this guy then 10 years later, somehow you're connecting. Can't you just take responsibility for it? Oh, he should. Let's not do the, like, he has to take responsibility to be the Democrat. I'm a 22-year-old YouTuber. You want me to take more responsibility than the United States? I want you to understand that I'm a 22-year-old YouTube, dude.

you to understand that we are in the middle of an epidemic of left-wing violence. They're attacking ice. They shot Charlie. It's happening all over the country. We have these free Palestine people running around trying to burn down the Pennsylvania governor's mansion on and on and on. Then maybe the president. It's not Trump's false that the left has radicalized to the point of saying,

we're done talking and we're going to start here. Scott, the data indicates. Scott, is Trump amping down the tensions? Amping down the tensions? Yeah, is he taking the tensions down? Is he trying to do that? I think he's mad that his friend got murdered if you want the job of the president is to tone down the rhetoric. Yeah, you know, number one on the Trump front, we need unifying leadership from the top.

You didn't hear Obama, Dylan Roof shot up a black church, he's saying Amazing Grace. He didn't say, I will go after my enemies. Number one, number two, we see the data indicates otherwise. There's, yes, there is left-wing violence. Right-wing violence, the Cato Institute, far from some far-left liberal baston set 60% of the murders from political terrorists. between 1975 and September 11th, 2025 was from the right, right? The second below that is jihadists 23%. So the data doesn't, and also the DOJ scrubbed the website

that said more of the violence comes from the right. And again, I actually don't want to get into the game of blaming because I actually agree with Adams' take from the other night where he talked about the acceleration of radicalization online. There's a broader problem with young men in-cell culture that's going on here that's not just like obviously we need our political leaders to be more representative of like positive masculinity and of not just blaming the other side and you know every every time there's an instance of violence saying you know what I'm going to prosecute Soros now

next up I'm a pro that's not the way to do it so I think Adam's right it comes from the top down and I think at the same time so now we have two people here who are saying it's Donald Trump's fault Scott that someone shot up a nice facility nobody is saying that's you literally said that let me finish you agreed with it you want to know what you're going to know What I said? I said Donald Trump created this environment over the past decade. You sat here and said, I need to take responsibility. I'm a 22-year-old YouTuber. You hold me to a higher standard than the man that we just listened to. I'm holding you to your standard of your punitry.

Donald Trump was just vomiting vitriol out of his mouth about how the other party is weak and evil. And he just said the party of hate, evil and Satan, you blind yourself to that. And you're focusing on a 22-year-old YouTuber. Since I've been in politics, I was working for members who were with Scalia during the congressional shooting. We didn't know if they were okay for many hours. I remember what happened, people didn't say, oh, he was a Bernie bro, so we're going to come for the Bernie Bros. There was this nature of we are going to realize something terrible happened and we're going to move on. You pointed to Dillon Roof, which would be political in the way that Obama handled it, but the Minnesota lawmakers, Paul Pelosi, I understand why the right feels like they're the victims more.

I asked somebody very close to me who's a big MAGA person, and they said, well, they tried to kill the president twice and they just shot Charlie Kirk. Everyone in America knows those two things happen. Most Americans can't name those Minnesota lawmakers. They probably think something happened to Paul Pelosi, and they don't really know. But the data itself is pretty clear. This is a problem we have to acknowledge it exists on both sides. The sooner we take responsibility for all our rhetoric. And there is left-wing rhetoric that I think is very dangerous and contributes to the anti-A sentiment.

But this is not one side only. We're back, and it's time for your unpopular opinions. You each have 30 seconds to tell us yours. Yeah, mine is on the most important story of the week. Okay? The Rapture. The TikTokers. that were preparing for the rapture,

they need to be hired by FEMA. Okay? Sure. They got the timing wrong slightly, but the preparation and the detail orientation was fantastic. They were talking about where to position your arms and you're being raptured. They were saying, don't look down as you're flying through the air.

Really pointed suggestions that we need in FEMA so that that could be directed. And then you unleash this swarm of influencers? You know, my side is going to eat me alive for this, but I do think Donald Trump is right. Diet Coke is the best drink on the planet. Like, I can't get enough of it. You can't even overdose on the thing. I need to chill out on it. It's not an unpopular opinion? That's a popular opinion.

If you said Diet Pepsi, I'd be like, that's highly unpopular. All right, everybody. Thank you so much, and thanks for watching Table for Five. You can catch me every weeknight.