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Episode Date: May 23, 2025Adam Mockler with MeidasTouch Network breaks down Donald Trump's friend Charlie Kirk debating college professor. Join my Substack as a free or paid subscriber: https://www.adammockler.com/subscribe... Become a member to support me! https://www.youtube.com/Adammockler/join https://patreon.com/adammockler Adam Mockler Socials: Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/AdamMockler/ Discord: https://discord.gg/y9yzMU3Gff Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adammockler/ Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/adammockler.bsky.social Twitter: https://x.com/adammocklerr/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/Adammockler Contact me at: askmockler@gmail.com Adam Mockler - amock LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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All right, this is going to be a fun one. We're about to react together to Charlie Kirk debating a
Cambridge professor, and apparently he gets kind of humiliated. Now, somebody just emailed me this
video and said, Mockler, you've got to watch this blind with your audience. Charlie Kirk debates
a professor rather than a college student for the first time in his life, and it does not go his way.
So I don't want to waste any time. Let's jump in. Let's watch this clip of Charlie Kirk versus a Cambridge professor.
By the way, I keep getting comments like this one. Adam, I've been watching since 200,000 subscribers, and I just realized I wasn't subscribed. Fixing that now. Make sure you subscribe. It helps out the channel a lot. And without further ado, let's check out this clip.
Russia versus Ukraine.
Who's the good guy and who's the bad guy?
Both are bad, one is worse.
Which way around?
Russia is worse than Ukraine.
Okay, so why haven't we pursued that?
What do you mean?
Well, it seems to me that in the whole of the current US proposition,
that Ukraine is being the bad guy.
In what way?
We funded Ukraine upwards to $200 billion.
Absolutely.
We just signed a mineral deal with Ukraine, not Russia.
But you are expecting Ukraine to give up 20% of its territory, someone who...
Even on top of that, Trump has bullied Zelensky in the Oval Office, comes up with nicknames for
Zelensky, call Zelensky a dictator.
When has he ever called Putin any nickname, or called him a dictator, or raised his voice
even slightly a Putin?
He tried to get a one-sided minerals deal, where Ukraine has to give up half of its minerals
and gets nothing.
Trump also removed weapons sharing and intelligence sharing with Ukraine, so yeah, it's been
one-sided.
lifting sanctions on Russia while, you know, removing weapons sharing with Ukraine, yeah.
Who invaded it?
Well, is Crimea part of Russia or Ukraine?
Ukraine.
That's where we don't agree.
Well, I'm afraid that's part of international treaty.
That's not up for grabs.
Well, it's interesting.
I mean, that's what.
Even Zelensky has said he's willing to give up Ukraine.
No, no.
Who's correct signed the agreement that.
gave Ukraine Crimea when the Soviet Union ended.
Right.
It was done.
First of all, it never should have been done.
It was largely ceremonial.
However, it was annexed under Obama.
Yes, and it was a mistake,
and it should be given back to Russia
as a sign of good gesture to end this conflict.
Who's currently controlling Crimea?
Where was the Russian Navy headquarter in World War II?
Where was the end of World War II?
I'm not doubting that.
I'm not doubting that.
I'm just saying that if we're being logical
on what has happened,
that you are now arguing against that,
flow. And I don't understand it. Because actually, why is Ukraine the bad guy?
No, I said they're bad. They're not the bad guy. Yeah, well, you said they were both bad,
but one was more bad. Well, the thing is, Ukraine is historically corrupt, but a lot of that
corruption is just a function of Russia on their border meddling with their country.
Russia, since the collapse of the Soviet Union and since Ukraine became a sovereign country,
has been installing puppets over and over in Ukraine. So, I mean, you can look this up.
Ukraine is pretty corrupt, or it was a decade ago, but that's because of Russia.
They've been trying to move towards the West.
They've been trying to liberalize.
Zelensky was elected democratically.
He is Western aligned.
Ukraine is trying to root out the corruption that was basically planted by Russia.
So there's a nuanced take to be had here.
Charlie Kirk's not taking the nuance take.
So why is Ukraine?
There's a lot wrong with Ukraine.
First of all, they're not a democracy.
Zelensky refuses to hold an election.
Well, no, he can't hold an election.
Oh, wait, did Churchill hold an election during the war?
Because under his Constitution...
Hold on, Lincoln held election during the war.
That's not true.
He can call an election.
He can call a snap election.
He's full dictator of the country.
No.
Because he knows that the people of Ukraine
would kick him out immediately
because he's deeply unpopular.
In fact, if he wanted to show a statement to the world,
he would call an election and win by 80%
and say, see, I'm super popular.
So that's number one.
I have a problem with that.
I have a problem with a person being propped up
as a government we're sending $200 billion to
that refuses even to face his voters.
Okay, I can't agree with you factually on that at all.
Constitutionally, Ukraine is not able to hold an election because it's under military law at the moment, and that's just a matter of fact.
Again, he can, as a minister or president, he can do whatever he can do whatever he can't.
He can't sign an executive order.
Wait a minute. Please think about this. Please think about this.
Charlie Kirk just lost the argument to himself, and I'll explain exactly how.
Essentially, he's saying that Zelensky can do whatever he wants as the president.
He can override the constitution to hold an election.
But then the Constitution of Ukraine says, during war, you can't hold an election.
So Charlie Kirk thinks that Ukraine is a quote-unquote bad country because he's under the impression that Zelensky is a dictator.
So in order to fix that, he wants Zelensky to override the constitution in a dictator in order to hold an election.
His main contention is both that Zelensky is a dictator, but that Zelensky isn't acting enough as a dictator.
that if Zelensky were a true dictator, he would just hold an election.
I mean, listen to this part one more time, and then I'll let the rest play.
Not at all.
Constitutionally, Ukraine is not able to hold an election because it's under military law at the moment,
and that's just a matter of fact.
Again, he can, as a minister or president, he can do whatever he can do.
He can't.
He can't sign an executive order and change their constitution and president either, so hopefully there's no other.
He could even do a ceremonial election to see where he actually stands with the people.
I think we call those opinions.
polls. Yes, and they're very negative.
Firmly ahead in the opinion. But you would agree that a person that holds
onto power without the election of the sovereign
is pretty questionable.
No, not in those circumstances.
Okay, and we disagree?
No, okay, that's fine. But give me another reason
what you... They are the most corrupt country in Europe that never even met
the most remote standards of joining NATO.
Do you not know where a lot of this money is going?
I don't disagree that there is a problem with corruption,
but the most corrupt country in Europe, are you sure about that?
I'd have to think, I'd have to double or triple think about that,
but they're very corrupt.
Okay, so that's a little bit doubt
It's not absolute
I mean, you know, let's face it
We are talking about
Comparison with some of the states
We're doing business with
And golf
Of course, but we're not giving them money
They're giving us money
That's a difference, right?
Saudi Arabia is fine
Well, hold on a second
It's morally acceptable
Take money from corrupting
Hold on, first of all
As far as morally acceptable
You do what's best
In the benefit of your country
And so, for example
Is Trump doing what's best
For the benefit of his country
When he's taking a $400 million
jet from Qatar? I don't think so. I think he's doing what's best for his own legacy.
Trump wants to prioritize legacy over everything else. That's the theme.
We were allied with Russia during the Second World War, and I'm glad we were. And I would ask you,
how much money is too much money to send to Ukraine? We're at $200 billion right now.
I don't think you have to send any more money to Ukraine.
It's not just money. Okay, it's not about how much money we send to Ukraine. It's about
the return on investment. It's like asking how much money is too much money to spend on disease
prevention. It's never too much if you're preventing diseases that save you money. You know what I mean?
So with Ukraine, what's happening is we're stopping Russia from gaining other territory within Europe.
If Russia ends up hitting a NATO country, any NATO country that triggers Article 5, then World War 3 is
infinitely more expensive for all of our economies than any sort of short-term military equipment
we send over there. So it's a return on investment. We're taking preventative measures to stop
authoritarianism.
Or, rather than sending $50 billion in weapons, we can just wait until Russia takes over Europe, and then 600,000 Americans have to die.
We spend, you know, 400, like, billion, we'd probably spend trillions of dollars fighting a war like that.
So why don't we just, you know, stop it right now?
But Republicans don't have long-term thinking, or they're being intellectually dishonest.
I think you have to agree to support them as a free country, and perhaps sell them weapons.
I don't you're very happy to sell weapons to less free countries.
and I think Europe will pick up the psych as we ought to
and I don't disagree with some of the comments about Europe not looking after its own security
I mean yeah Europe can probably put in more that's fair
just don't get this approach which was supposedly to end the war quickly
which now seems to be elongating it and in doing so
throwing up a smoke screen of very variable facts if they are facts at all
about how things occurred which actually isn't helping things
And if people can't see that Putin stalling, I'm just...
I agree with you.
I think he might be stolen.
And therefore, and I think even your president has acknowledged the fact that he thinks he might be stolen.
So we don't have a disagreement.
No, we don't.
No, we don't.
No, we don't have disagreement about the efficacy of tactics.
And we don't know.
What Trump's tactics are sending out...
Sorry to keep cutting it off, but Trump's tactics are sending out truth social posts saying,
Vlad, stop.
That's not diplomacy.
That's being a desperate idiot.
I'm willing to say we could be wrong.
No.
Oh, well, of course.
you could be wrong in life. I mean, we could all be wrong. But actually bringing that war to an end
consistently actually isn't going very well. And I would just suggest to you, whatever tactics
have been used are perhaps not the best. And they are certainly inconsistent with what's going on
in the Middle East and how America has been treating parties in the Middle East. But I don't,
I've had enough of your time. No, that's a fair contention. Thank you very much.
Thank you.
every single topic there.
And he's wrong. He's arguing against himself.
His contentions make no sense.
Number one, he's going with the Russian narrative on international law when it comes to Crimea.
Number two, he's saying that Zelensky is a dictator and that Zelensky also isn't
being dictatorial enough, which is the major contradiction here.
Charlie Kirk doesn't care about having a cohesive forward-looking vision on Ukraine or on this
subject.
You know, you guys are going to hate me for this.
Ben Shapiro, for all of his flaws, has been somebody who has been staunchly pro-Ukraine.
I've covered it on the show.
There was a while there where he was kind of just ragging on Trump for not being pro-Ukraine enough.
And I'm not saying anybody should be more like Ben Shapiro, but I think Charlie Kirk is lacking
any sort of knowledge or vision on Ukraine that would allow him to have broader context.
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