The Adam Mockler Show - MAGA Woman Proves SHE'S IN A CULT!

Episode Date: October 2, 2026

Adam Mockler and Eumieverse break down their debate on @jubilee with 2 MAGA characters. Click below for premium Adam Mockler content:👉 https://adammockler.com/subscribe👉 https://www.youtube.co...m/@adammockler/joinJOIN THE COMMUNITY: Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/AdamMockler/Discord: https://discord.gg/y9yzMU3GffInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/adammockler/Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/adammockler.com/Twitter: https://x.com/adammocklerr/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adammocklerContact: contact@mocklermedia.comBusiness inquiries: adammocklerteam@unitedtalent.comAdam Mockler - Mockler Media LLC

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Are you defending the U.S. hundreds of children in Iran? I'm saying that we're talking about bringing death to America. We have to take care of our family first. We have to see ourselves as the American family. This is Islamic indocturination is causing us to not realize the actual threat at hand. All right, everybody, Adam Ackler here. My girlfriend, Yumi, also known as Yumiverse and I, went on Jubilee to do a roundtable. And it was quite interesting, as you could see.
Starting point is 00:00:27 We have a few clips to show you of us debating Julia Kates, a tradwife, maga woman, and then Chavez Keston Ball, another maga dude. You went back and forth with Julia Kate a few times. What were your thoughts of her before we jump in? Well, my first thought was I didn't expect her to actually speak like that in person. I've seen a few clips of her on the internet because she just says these like outlandish things. She'll say, as a conservative woman, I believe the all women should have 10 kids at least. Or she'll say, we need to bring strong alpha males back to American society like Donald Trump,
Starting point is 00:00:57 like Spencer Pratt, like Charlie Kirk. And I didn't expect her to actually talk like that. But after looking into it, something called the baby fundy voice, which is something that a lot of fundamentally religious people use, women use specifically, to kind of show subservience and submission to men. So when they talk to men, they talk to them in these weird high-pitched voices where they say like, yes, sir, of course. And it was very interesting.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Let's go into this first clip of us debating Julia Kate. As always, make sure you drop a like if you appreciate the content. Make sure you watch until the end and enjoy. Irrespective of how long hang on let me finish irrespective we are winning and that we are going to win because Trump is a winner and also So we have hundreds of Iranian schoolgirls to protect Americans? Is that what you're saying? I mean what happens in war It's not a beautiful thing but things are impure Wait, why do you keep looking at him? Look at me. I am looking at you. I'm looking at all of you What was your question? My question is Adam and I are dating and I've never even written him something like that
Starting point is 00:01:55 If you really want to get something juicy and look at an inappropriate relationship in the White House, why don't you look up Biden and Obama? Literally just put the two. Literally just put this. It gets so, so, so much worse. So we recorded this segment the same week that the Natalie Harp story came out. Natalie Harp is Donald Trump's 35-year-old assistant who is obsessed with him in writing love letters. We filmed this segment, and Julia Kate throughout it is only looking at me,
Starting point is 00:02:25 Only calling me, sir, which we thought was kind of weird. Yeah, we thought that was really strange. And then, like, I would ask her a question, and then she would look at you and answer the question. And I'd be like, wait a minute, I ask you the question. She would only look at me. And she starts biting some bullets regarding Trump and Natalie Harp that are quite interesting. So let's watch this clip. You guys are going to enjoy this debate.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Personal letters written by President Donald Trump's close aid Natalie Harp are being published in full. The Daily Beast obtained two letters written by Harp back. in 2023. I'm going to read some of what they say. The first one says, quote, I never want to bring you anything but joy. I'm sorry I lost my focus. You are all that matters to me. I don't want to ever let you down. Thank you for being my guardian and protector in this life. Another reads, please, when I fail, will you tell me you have the absolute right to cuss me Julia Kate agrees. She, she agrees with this. She's happy with it. It's important to know about Hart. How deep. I think she's on Natalie Harp's side genuinely. Oh, for sure. She was justifying
Starting point is 00:03:24 she's never. She's never. Natalie Harp's relationship with Trump further solidifies that MAGA is a cult. Yes. Okay. I mean, I think this is beyond a stretch. Of course, they're trying to find something to impugn Donald Trump's character. But, I mean, she is a woman that survived bone cancer due to one of Donald Trump's policies.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I don't see the problem with having her around to do his, like, administrative tasks. I mean, I think it's almost a sexist innuendo that there has to be. that there has to be some other ulterior reason. And in our culture today, we lack any respect for our elders. We lack any respect for authority and any sense of gratitude. And so what I hear in those letters is someone who is thankful to him and someone who wants to do better at her job. What the absolute hell.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Those letters were like Stockholm syndrome. She was apologizing, saying that he should be more mean to her, saying that she's sorry for having sleepless nights and sprinting after her. It's insane. It is insane. I think the way that she like kind of like circles around her own talking points trying to justify these letters is absolutely crazy But I love that we just have a blatant display of how maga is a cult Watch we'll let it play out you jump in here well
Starting point is 00:04:33 Off the bat as someone who's worked in a professional corporate environment all of this shit is fucking weird it's weird to write your boss letters and say you're all that matter It's weird to say I am the other women who look beautiful around you all of these things are weird Yeah, but she has written that Okay, I'm not sure about that But what I will say is that I think she has the job the on the on of a lifetime it's akin to getting to work for someone like Reagan, Washington, proving it's whole behavior. No, the thing is you have the chance to work for someone that you deeply admire and respect,
Starting point is 00:05:01 it's not like that. In what situation, in what professional environment can you write letters to your boss? All things are impure. Wait, why do you keep looking at him? Look at me. I am looking at him. I'm looking at all of you. What was your question?
Starting point is 00:05:12 My question is, in what professional environment is it appropriate to write your boss letter saying you were all not as a But he is more to a HR violation right off the bat? Have you ever worked in a corporate role or professional environment? I actually have. Did you write letters like that to your boss? I would write letters like that to your boss. Because of the fact that it's a corporate. So it's a quote.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Not to her boss, but to Donald Trump. Okay, pause. I mean, this basically proves the entire prompt. She would write letters like that to Donald Trump. I talked to my mom about this who is a leadership coach in a lot of these corporate environments. And she says, it's the leader's responsibility to stop all of this shit at the very beginning. You cannot allow a relationship to grow this ability.
Starting point is 00:05:51 That is a failure on the leader's part. Donald Trump should have shut everything down with Natalie Harp when he saw that she got obsessive, but we know in his narcissistic mind he allowed that to grow and grow and grow. But you made really good points there about this. It only devolves and get even worse. Is this a segment where Shabbos changes his, his, uh, thank the green? I don't, I don't know. I don't know relationship because his policy directly impacted her very livelihood.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And it's more of a mentorship relationship. It's more of like, admiring him and being a very, you know, and being able to work alongside him. I don't see why you guys are making me. I've never, because I've never had a mentor where I've written them letters that's saying you all that. No, because here's my thing.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Adam and I are dating, and I've never even written him something like that. I'll just say very quickly, I'm not gonna say much on this prompt, because I do think the Natalie Harp stuff, it's weird, all right? You don't talk to someone like that, it's weird. It's weird. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:06:39 The only reason I'm read, if it was just Natalie Harp is weird, I'd be green with you guys. The only reason I'm read is because the implications that MAGA itself is a cult, and as I think we have already demonstrated, I mean, there are things that I disagree with MAGA, whether it's tariffs, or whether it's the national debt, whether it's some aspects of foreign policy.
Starting point is 00:06:55 And we can have, to your point, healthy debates. But overall, yeah, I would say, on the one hand, Natalie Harp is a private person. But when you're working for the president and the thing becomes a matter of public attention, then it's no longer she's just a private person. And it's weird. I want to hear you guys continue to talk about this. But can I just add, there is some serious power dynamic problems going on here. Any executive or leader who is in this position like this should, like, stop that shit right away. Oh, wait, I make the exact same point.
Starting point is 00:07:20 They should quell that, they should push it away. The idea that you can continue to let that go and continue to get letters, I do think there is something weird going on. I don't want to make any implications about sexual stuff, but there's clearly some sort of pathological obsession with Natalie. Okay, so let me ask you a question. If you really want to get something juicy and look at an inappropriate relationship in the White House, why don't you look up Biden and Obama? Literally just put the two names into the Google search. It is weird. Bro, is she implying that Biden and Obama's?
Starting point is 00:07:48 Romance was similar to Natalie Harp and Donald Trump. This is peak rage bait. There's no way. But she kept providing these weird, obscure, like, offlandish examples for everything. Like, we were talking about, like, we were debating. Another topic we were talking about was, like, illegal immigrants voting. And she was like, yeah, someone's dog voted. And I just remember being like, what are you even talking about?
Starting point is 00:08:09 Like, what are these outlandish examples? Mag is living in an alternate reality. Let's see how this play. The Biden was writing Obama letters saying, you were all the matter. Look at the way that they're holding each other. Look at the way that they're looking. Yeah, was Biden writing letters? I mean, Obama could have picked anyone to be his right-hand man.
Starting point is 00:08:23 He picked Biden twice. Wait, do you think they were in a relationship? Yeah, what? Bro, what does this mean? You put the Bible. There was no weird sexual chemistry. Which was Jill Biden. You think Jill Biden would have allowed that?
Starting point is 00:08:35 Actually, I agree with Julia Kate. I do think. No, no, you put that back to green. Writing fan fiction on-fiction. It was so, it is so weird. Julia Kate is literally, as you said, writing fan fiction. Like, this is like, a lot of times 15-year-olds on Tumblr will write fan fiction. on Tumblr will write fan fictions about like one direction or whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And in this case, Julia Kate seems to have a weird fiction in her mind, fantasy of Obama and Biden. You're losing me. Look at the way they look at each other. But what I'm doing is to find your logic. I'm saying, hey, it's weird. So maybe there's something there. They spend a lot of alone time together. I'm just saying that's the same logic you're using to impugn Natalie Hart.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Yes, it is. It's not. It's the letters. It's the weird. It's the weird. I'm saying, hey, if I'm doing something wrong, then you can correct me. I want to do better. You cuss me out, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:09:18 It's very different from it. If I'm doing something wrong, you can correct me. She's like Stockholm syndrome. Yeah, she's literally making herself a doormatch. She was chasing behind us. Let's create some commonality. I think I'll leave you aside just for a second. We could agree the Natalie Harp stuff is weird.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I agree. I think where now I'm on team Julia Kate is I don't think that implies MAGA as a political or ideological movement is a cult. I mean, dude, Julia Kate proves the prompt throughout this entire debate. She thinks that Trump won the 2020 election. She will believe whatever Trump says. that she wants to write the same letters. I think it implies that Donald Trump requires,
Starting point is 00:09:50 as a person, severe loyalty in his inner dimensions. And when you don't display that inner loyalty, then yeah, you'll be cut out. So I can say that Trump himself has these weird, dare I say, narcissistic or egominoical tendencies, but I don't think that reflects the movement as a political idea. Do you recall yourself MAGA?
Starting point is 00:10:08 Yeah, I'd probably call myself MAGA. Okay, so Donald Trump is the one who defines what MAGA is. So by that definition, you can basically exclude anybody at any given moment. When we look at MAGA as a whole, his approval rating among MAGA Republicans is incredibly high no matter what he does. You are sitting here right now and in one breath saying Maga's not a cult, then in the next breath saying that you yourself would write letters to Trump. Love letters if you could.
Starting point is 00:10:30 No, you're completely like that. So there would be normal letters? I'm exactly what she said. Like literally said she would write the same letters. She said, I would write letters like that for Donald Trump. Yeah, she didn't say it. I did not say. She absolutely said.
Starting point is 00:10:41 And if I would say that if I had the honor to work for someone like Donald Trump, I would write letters. thanking him and asking him how I can do better. That is what I said. Yeah, that's not what that was. And I want to talk about John Osof. Was that his last name? Osof? Osof, Oso, whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:54 He's like Joseph. No. Running for office in Georgia, he's the incumbent. And why is he making his campaign speech about Donald Trump has nothing to do with his race? I think that goes to show that his priorities are in the wrong place and that he should be outvoted. By the way, it was like one throwaway line.
Starting point is 00:11:11 These people would never be outraged at the dozens of outrageous statements, is made to women's faces calling them like fat, terrible people. I think you bring that up in like 30 seconds and then she even says like he would never call me that because I'm not a piggy. There's no way. What Trump said to be offensive or sorry, do you find what John also said to be offensive about Natalie Hart?
Starting point is 00:11:29 Um, yes, I do. Oh really. So do you find what Trump said about grabbing women by the pussy to be offensive back and you know what's so interesting is that- Do you find that offensive? I think that is offensive. Oh wait. What about when he yelled quiet piggy?
Starting point is 00:11:40 When he yelled quiet piggy on Air Force One is that offensive? You are talking about things that have nothing to do when Donald Trump, except in office And also when he made that statement for your information, he was a registered Democrat, so maybe you should answer for that. No, I'm not sure. When he called a journalist. She says the person who's voted for Trump as many times as she possibly could. Says the one who like pedestalizes Trump. She's like, I wouldn't write letters like that to my boss, but if my boss were Trump, I'd write letters like that.
Starting point is 00:12:02 But you should answer for the things he said while he was a Democrat though. Oh, my Lord. Hiby, he was not a registered Democrat. He was the president of the United States. I'm not even aware of that, but it's not even that offensive. So would you let Donald Trump call you piggy? No. Okay, so he called a reporter piggy.
Starting point is 00:12:15 And he wouldn't call me that because I'm not a piggy. Well, he would call the reporter of a piggy who was just doing her job. This is not going to the cult mentality. You don't think it's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. You know that you guys are really. He's struggling. I think Shabbas, this entire debate, if you watch it on Jubilee, he is struggling because
Starting point is 00:12:29 his partner is in real time disproving his arguments. He'll be saying Mag is not a cults. There's a lot of rationality in Maga, and we don't blindly follow what he says. And it's unfair to say Maga blindly follows what he says. And then Julia Kate will go. Come in him blindly. I blindly follow what he says. Really, really funny.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I would say two things quickly. First of all, when you talk about Trump saying, I am MAGA, I mean, Joe Biden said the exact same thing when he was running in 2020 when he was asked about Bernie Sanders. And you know, well, Bernie Sanders wants Medicare for all. Bernie Sanders wants a Green New Deal. What are you saying? He says, well, I, Joe Biden, am the Democratic Party. So that's been a normal tradition for at least 100 years.
Starting point is 00:13:06 This is very, very different. Joe Biden was definitely subject to a bunch of outside pressures within the Democratic Party of people wanting to push him in different direction. directions. Donald Trump can say any bullshit on any given day about tariffs and the entire Republican Party falls in line on tariffs. They fall in line on all of his most extreme impulses. What were Joe Biden's extreme impulses? Trying to like forgive student loan debt. Some Democrats didn't want him to. Some Democrats want them to forgive more. Like the disagreements in the Democratic Party are different than the cult that is matter. And it's different because
Starting point is 00:13:38 Joe Biden was the highest ranking person in the Democratic Party's Democratic Party. So I feel like it's fair for him to say I am the Democratic Party. Whereas Matt It's not like Trump said, I am the Republican Party. He said, I am MAGA, which is a populist movement within the Republican Party that's like pushing all these extreme narratives and just excusing everything he does. That is a cult, which is what the prompt at the top says. Natalie Harp's relationship further solidifies MAGA is a cult.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Shabbos is fighting an uphill battle here due to the partner he has, who is in the cult. In the American political body, whereby if you are the nominee or you are the president, then it is very normal that you get to dictate your way ideologically. Now, there will always be elected members disagree with those things. And that's why oftentimes, like Donald Trump has a hard time putting legislation forward because there are many Republicans like Thomas Massey who will disagree with
Starting point is 00:14:22 things that he does. So that's just number one. Trump saying I amaga is so part of the orthodoxy of what other presidents have said in the past. Well, what happened to Thomas Massey. Thomas Massey got primary. His own example disproves what he's trying to say. You have hair on your face, by the way. But his own example disproves what he's saying because Thomas Massey went against Trump and Trump got his cult to primary Thomas Massey. Do I make a lot? Do I make a that point? Number two, though, yeah, again, I'll say it for the millionth time. The Natalie Harp stuff is weird. Trump as an individual, I mean, it is a very odd relationship to have a man. It's so bad. Why? Why is it weird? Why is it weird? I don't see sending love letters to Trump
Starting point is 00:15:00 weird or running after his golf card or losing sleepover. You think that's weird. You should think that the vice president hugging the president is very strange. They're definitely having a sexual relationship. I don't. And I owe you my life. Those are not normal things you would get from an employer typically. It's more than a relationship. It's more than a relationship? It's more than a relationship? Well, I can understand, hang on.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Hang on. I can understand the argument that like, well, it's not just any job. I'm working for the President of the United States and I had this bone treatment which saved my life. And I feel like I'm doing something holy. It's changing the country as we know. I can understand that. But even still, I think we have to acknowledge that the loyalty that Trump demands of people often makes them do and say things that the otherwise. He's even giving too much charitable to this batch of wild relationship.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Would not say and would not do. So I don't think that reflects on MAGA because that's 70 million people, but it certainly does reflect on some of the people he surrounds himself with. I think that was more of a problem in Trump's first term, less of a problem now, which is why we only have to- There's a limitation to these debates because you can't respond to every single thing, but even watching this back, I would contest this idea that 70 million people are in MAGA. 70 million people voted for Trump, but MAGA is defined, as you said,
Starting point is 00:16:06 as a subsect of those voters. And MAGA, as it stands, is totally, absolutely a cold. have this one story two years after the fact, but it is still weird. I'm happy to concede that. I mean, okay, so what kind of relationship do you think they have if it's more than a work relationship? I'm saying we don't actually have evidence
Starting point is 00:16:23 of anything going on that's misconduct. Obviously, it's a relationship where she honors and respects it and she feels that she owes her life to him. So I don't think that- In the background. And by this whole like, ooh, suspicious stuff here, suspicious stuff there. What I'm saying is you can look at Obama
Starting point is 00:16:40 and Barack is saying Obama. Oh, stop bringing that up. No, it's not true. I don't think Shabbas is a cult member because he can at least acknowledge that Trump has weird loyalists within his administration. And I don't know. I think a lot of the stuff that Julia Kate is saying is very culty in nature. Yes, it's fucking weird. It is.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah, it's weird that I said, would you denounce Trump for calling a journalist? Are we mean? I don't know. I don't think we're me. I mean, Adam, this girl's crazy. Like, she goes on the internet. She literally said that we were justified in bombing hundreds of school children in Iran. She's pro-life.
Starting point is 00:17:10 And she said that because she said they would inevitably grow up to be terrible. That's what she said. Like, I think she deserved it. Good point. You're right. A piggy. That's nothing. Wait, so do you think what John Alsuff said was offensive? Yeah, why is what John also said offensive is? What did he say?
Starting point is 00:17:23 He is accusing a woman of having an inappropriate relationship. He just said Trump is traveling with Natalie a lot. Yeah, he put this innuendo out there that impugned this sweet lady who was a bone counselor. So you don't think when Trump called a journalist Piggy, he was saying he was calling her fat? Like, what's offensive is not even an innuendo? He's just saying. I don't know. I don't think that's as much as an insult.
Starting point is 00:17:42 to somebody's character as insinuating that they are sleeping. Oh my God. We're getting serious now. We're getting serious now. Like, that's offensive as well. It's not even an end of the window. He's just saying. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:53 I don't think that's as an insult to somebody's character as insinuating that they are sleeping with the president. But this is what we mean when we say that Maga is a cold. The goalposts are different for Trump. At no point did he like insinuate that they were sleeping together. He just said that they've been traveling together. That's all he said. Trump legit called the journalist fat. He said, quiet pig.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Like, it's just like two different things. And it's crazy she'll try to justify the piggy, but not just like the innuendo, I guess. Welcome to the double standards of Republican politics. Trump can say the most infinitely vile, crazy things. Like celebrities will die and Trump will say, good, I'm glad he's dead. I'm glad he's dead. He died of Trump derangement syndrome. And then Joe Biden will like cough and say that Republicans are kind of corrupt and they'll
Starting point is 00:18:37 say that Joe Biden is the most divisive person to ever exist. It's crazy double standards. I said, because why is he talking about Donald Trump, which has nothing to do with his race? And Natalie, he's deflecting from the actual issues of his state. And furthermore, I was totally fine to say to you, I did not like the vulgar language that happened many decades prior to when he came into office and that he was a Democrat at that time. I'll quickly add him then.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I'm going to go back to saying nothing and being a moderate. Because again, this is just a weird topic for me. I don't think it's a fair definition to say that Republicans allow Trump to do things that they would otherwise not allow Democrats to do because I hate to break it to all of us, which we all know. That's just politics. Our politics today kind of suck. It's a zero-sum game, which is bad. Obviously, more conservative-aligned.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I think I answered your question affirmatively that I am MAGA. But I think we need to be able to- I find it interesting that Shabbas, like in this situation, whenever she's being, you know, really irrational, resorts to playing, like, as kind of a centrist, right? Because historically, he voted for Burning Twice. Like, he was a progressive for a good span of time. Like, being a conservative is a relatively new thing for him.
Starting point is 00:19:36 And so I think, like, he, I think he sees, like, like that level of crazy cult-like behavior within, I don't know, Trump's base within MAGA. And I think that he even sees like the hypocrisy and kind of, look, he changes color. He sees it, but there are career incentives for people to label themselves MAGA and to ride that line, even if they do have rationality in them. Obviously, there is a difference between the two people on screen now in their loyalty to the MAGA movement. But we'll keep watching. Balls and strikes. In the same way I can say that a significant amount of the Democratic political cooperative, were able to overlook the fact that they knew at the time that Joe Biden was mentally
Starting point is 00:20:11 compromised to be a little blunt here. And they would not allow other people to get over that, which is why they demanded that Donald Trump commit himself to cognitive tests, where they didn't allow Joe Biden to do that thing. So again, I think it's a weird topic, and I think we should all agree that we need to hold all policymakers account, and we're not doing that thing, because our politics today are just very, very stupid. There's, of course. So look me in the eye, Adam. I do not think Chabos is a cult member. You've illustrated multiple times throughout this that you can disagree with Trump. I don't say this to be mean, but Julia, Kate, you are exhibiting these cult member
Starting point is 00:20:44 mentalities. Now, let me just say very, very quickly, there is this double standard that exists with the way that the Republican Party treats these issues. They will blind themselves to all of Trump's vile rhetoric about women over the years, telling reporters they should smile more, calling women reporters. This is like sexism 101. Like, oh, you should smile more a little bit. And it's like, you should smile more a little bit.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Okay, let me finish that. How is it not sexist to say that Natalie only has her power in her position because she's No, we're not... No one said that. That's a straw man. Literally nobody said that. That's what you're not claiming that. We're not claiming that at all.
Starting point is 00:21:16 You're just like drawing your own implication. Okay, but let me finish really quickly. There's a double standard in the way that Trump has spoken about women over the past 20 years, his entire career where he says, basically, you know, smile more, quiet piggy. And then the moment John Ossoff says that Trump is traveling with not Natalie, the entire MAGA ecosystem began to blow the fuck up. The entire MAGA ecosystem lost their minds. I think that is a double standard. Now with the Natalie Harp thing, I think,
Starting point is 00:21:39 I just want to inject some nuance where it is deserved. There are positions, like a body man or a body woman or an assistant where you can follow around a politician and you can spend a lot of close time with them. Like I have an assistant, we spend a lot of time together, but it's when you start to have these weird... No, no, no, it's normal to have an assistant. Does your girlfriend know? I mean, come on. No, it's a dude. Does your girlfriend know it's a dude?
Starting point is 00:22:01 I'm not Barack Obama and Joe Biden. No, but just to back up for one second, there are normal relationships where a body person, can be very close to a politician. Like, this is normal. However, when Natalie Harp is running after golf carts, when Natalie Harp is writing letters to Trump that are legit love letters, it's like self-imposed Stockholm syndrome, this is cult mentality. This is cult behavior.
Starting point is 00:22:23 But again, I agree with that. But just to be clear, that is true of her and some of the people who surround them. I also want to respond to something Chabot said earlier. He says that, you know, certain members of the Republican Party let Trump get away with things, but Democrats do that too. It is far different. Trump got into office and imposed this tariff regime and Republicans looked the other way. He started a war with Iran and Republicans looked the other way.
Starting point is 00:22:46 He was covering up the Epstein files and Republicans looked the other way. Like they literally walk and lock step with him. And when they don't, like Thomas Massey or Marjorie Taylor Green or Nancy Mace or any of these people who have gotten primaried, he kicks them out. He does even worse. He attacks their family personally. He tries to use his cult followers to attack and thwart. threaten people who disagree with him. Like Jim Jones-esque Colt.
Starting point is 00:23:12 ...self in the Trump orbit. I'm just making the point. It's not true of the 70 million people who voted for Donald Trump, including for very different reasons. Who's more important than... Julie Kate and I voted for Donald Trump based on very different reasons.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Who's more important than the people that Trump surrounds himself with? They will be the ones that tell them these tariffs are a bad idea. I agree. This is a bad idea. I'm making the distinction. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:23:32 She bit the bullet. The tariffs are a great idea. And they're bringing billions of dollars. Wow. I feel like this just sums up. like their facial express is just some of this entire debate so well. She's eager to bite every mag of bullet and he's trying to act like she's not.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Trump as a human being who demands loyalty and then Trump as a head of a political movement whereby he very much is held accountable to the voters. Can I respond to something that you said? So you brought up this idea of hypocrisy and a double standard on the right. And I'm sure there is because we're all fallen human beings. But when you talk about a double standard, would I...
Starting point is 00:24:01 I'm not a fallen human being. We, we're all. Who's we? I'm not a fallen human being. Find the most baffling is, everybody on the left, progressives, Democrats, whatever you want to call yourselves, they want to impugned Donald Trump's character as having sexual misconduct in propriety. When all of your favorite politicians, let's say Bill Clinton, let's say JFK, let's even say Joe Biden, have committed acts of sexual misconduct in the White House and none of that can be said for Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Are you going back to the Joe Biden Obama thing again? No, what I'm talking about is that look at Tara Reid. She was a woman that Joe Biden assaulted in a capital office. That's not true. Yes, You should probably say allegedly. How about the fact that, for a fact, we all know about Monica Lewinsky. The same woman says, Tara Reid said she had a relationship with Vladimir Putin, and then I believe she moved to Russia after making these allegations. I think that believing women is important, but there's a credibility problem when this woman is writing fan fiction about Vladimir Putin saying that she's getting close to him or something.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Like, there was a lot going on with this, and this was a non-credible allegation boosted up by the right. So for her to bring that up and try to connect it to Natalie's company. And I think by and large, no one takes accusations of sexual misconduct more seriously than the left does. Yeah, of course. Like, yes, the left will regularly cancel its own politicians and oust them for that kind of thing. I mean, dude, I should have brought a lot of this up, but Max Miller is still a Republican representative in Ohio after allegedly breaking his two-year-old's collarbone and after definitely beating his ex-wife, Bernie Moreno's daughter. On the Democratic side, when the Graham Platner allegations came out, he was gone within 24 hours. When the Eric Swolell allegations came out, he was gone within 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Yeah, and Donald Trump was literally found civilly liable of like... Sexual assault. Yes, and I'm sure that she would blame that on the fact that he was a registered Democrat when it happened. Or she would say that it was a rigged court system and New York is a course. I mean, she's going to have a cold answer. She's going to pick one of the three Trump cold answers. And she was not the only one. And it was like national news.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Yeah, but she was not the only one. And it was in the White House. That is disgusting. Oh, it's awful. And how about JFK with all of his affairs in the White House? Donald Trump, he's a saint compared to these. We're not even... I don't even...
Starting point is 00:26:05 or all agree right now because we can model for the rest of the country for Gen Z. I want to finish off with one more clip of Julia Kate. This may be the most self-defeating one yet. She talks a little bit about her worldview regarding feminism or women's rights. And I ask her a series of questions and we realize she doesn't agree with abortion, doesn't agree with birth control. You know what? I'll just let the clip play out and I'll let you jump in after.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Okay, let me also ask you, are you supportive of abortion? Absolutely not. Are you supportive of birth control? I personally do not believe in birth control. Okay, so you can't sit here as a conservative and say you disagree with rational sex ed, say that you disagree with birth control, and you disagree with abortion, then also say you want people to make responsible decisions with family creation. Because what this does is it creates an environment where people grow up and they don't know shit about sex.
Starting point is 00:26:51 They didn't have sex ed, so they don't know what real sex looks like or what it doesn't. If somebody is in a poor position and they didn't get sex ed because their parents weren't there, and they don't have access to birth control, and they also can't get an abortion, you are creating more single parent. single parent households where people have a very bad family life. You do realize that over 99% of the women committing abortions are, it's an elective they had. This was actually a totally made up stat. I didn't have this stat on the top of my head because it's hard to come fully repaired, totally entirely made up.
Starting point is 00:27:18 They didn't have that intercourse in the first place, then they wouldn't need the abortion. That's what I'm saying right. What I'm saying is that, I do believe... Wait, you just want to restrict people's right to have sex now? Children should know how babies are made. Babies are made through sex, right? Between one man and one woman. She just said she's against sex out. That is why there is no such thing as safe sex because you take the gamble every time you engage in intercourse that you could have a child.
Starting point is 00:27:38 And it is not fair for that child that you're going to kill them because they're inconvenient to you. This is why sex that is important, y'all. What did you think of that? I think it's absolutely insane how she just like refuses. Okay, I think she just paints this idealistic worldview and it's how she wants the world to be, right? But realistically, that's not how the world functions. People are going to have sex, but people are going to have premarital sex. And I don't like that she puts the onus of responsibility on women instead of on men.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Because she can sit here and endlessly talk about how like a woman deserves to be punished with pregnancy for having premarital sex. But then she never talks about child support. She doesn't talk about how like men are responsible for these things as well. And I think it's like quite frankly ridiculous. Like she keeps putting all these unrealistic expectations on women and then resolving men from any of them. Well, if you like these videos and you want more videos with Adam and Yumi, make sure you drop a like. We're going to go do a birthday dinner. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Thank you. I appreciate that. Love you all. You all later.

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