The Adam Mockler Show - Trump FALLS ON STAGE… here’s the TRUTH?

Episode Date: April 27, 2026

Click below for premium Adam Mockler content 👉 https://www.youtube.com/@adammockler/join 👉 https://adammockler.com/subscribe Adam Mockler breaks down his experience in DC after the White House ...correspondents dinner alongside Mike Nellis. JOIN THE COMMUNITY: Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/AdamMockler/ Discord: https://discord.gg/y9yzMU3Gff Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adammockler/ Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/adammockler.com/ Twitter: https://x.com/adammocklerr/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adammockler Contact: contact@mocklermedia.com Business inquiries: adammocklerteam@unitedtalent.com Adam Mockler - Mockler Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Last night, the White House correspondent's center got abruptly canceled after a shooter sprinted into the lobby and then was subsequently tackled to the ground and arrested. Now, we don't have much information as the investigation is just beginning, but I am in D.C. I was in the hotel lobby about 10 minutes before this shooting took place. I was at a pre-event for Politico talking to new media people. We were chatting. I was in this exact lobby, and then I Uber out to go to a substack party, ironically enough. which is the event we're on now. The substack party was the counter-programming to the actual dinner. So if you didn't want to go to that, you wanted to have your own voice with new media, you go to substack. And while we were there, while we were at this party, literally just like five minutes
Starting point is 00:00:43 from where that shooting happened, five minutes away, right? I get a call from my grandpa while I'm with a bunch of friends in a circle. And he goes, have you seen what's happened on TV? Go check. And I was like, no, what happened at the dinner? I thought, you know, Trump said something really crazy. Or I thought that maybe he attacked some journalist verbally and some crazy way. And I said, no, what happened?
Starting point is 00:01:01 And he goes, there are men with long rifles standing on stage right now, and something just happened. There was just some sort of shooting. I go, no way. You're lying. So I tell my friend group, and we look around, and nobody else in the substack event knew yet. Nobody else knew except for us. It was kind of like that meme where the guy's in the corner of the party. And he's like, nobody else knows that this happened, right?
Starting point is 00:01:19 But for real, we were like, nobody really is realized. So the vibe was kind of eerie for a second. Then people start getting ping. Then I'm walking out to people like, have you heard what happened? And they're like, no, what happens? We're talking about it. Then we learned nobody is allowed in or out of the party. We learned that the party is closed off ours, the substack one.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Nobody allowed in, nobody allowed out. So for like an hour, we're all just trying to figure out what happened. Of course, there were conflicting reports saying the gunman was dead. He's not dead. Maybe there's two. As we've learned, the gunman is still alive. He was a teacher from California. And the motive is still being figured out.
Starting point is 00:01:53 I mean, it's likely he was either attacking journalists or trying to attack cabinet members. I personally do not think this was staged. As somebody that was there, I just don't know how you possibly, number one, convince somebody to run in and ruin their life. Number two, what's the idea here that Cash Patel was able to soberly put together a plan that was not going to get caught,
Starting point is 00:02:15 even though him and Trump and Todd Blanche can't even do a simple Epstein release, can't even go to war without it being insane. I think that it was very real. I think Occam's Razor says the simpler answer is the better, There was somebody who was very likely, you know, a little radicalized, very radicalized, and was willing to give up his life for this. And he ran in. A lot of people are asking me, if there was so much security, how did he get in there? He didn't get in. He sprinted in as fast as he
Starting point is 00:02:42 could, and he immediately got taken down and tackled to the ground and shot at. He did not get into the security. He did not get through it. He wasn't even close to it, by the way. The dinner was happening two levels below where this guy ran in. It just wasn't even close. And I think that if you're saying it was staged, I think you're jumping to some wild conclusions. We'll get there as well. Sorry, I'm napping a lot here. I just want to continue to run through my thoughts.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Then all these videos come out that I want to run through as well. Someone said, lost my respect for Adam. I'm sorry, if you're just jumping to conclusions that it was staged when we really don't know much, and your idea is that Cash Patel is out there masterminding a scheme, then you're like one step away from just dropping down all conspiracy theories. Let's just be rational about it.
Starting point is 00:03:25 But there's videos of Cash Patel. absolutely terrified. I'm going to play these videos on screen on the YouTube version. Cash Patel is standing there looking around. Absolutely terrified. He doesn't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:03:36 This is our FBI director. We have Donald Trump being escorted off stage after JD Vance. I'm going to play this clip right here. As you can see, J.D. Vance is being escorted off of the stage. And then most people missed this, but Donald Trump ended up falling over
Starting point is 00:03:51 and tripping after, which is pretty intense for an old, old president to be doing. Then you see RFK Jr. dipping off stage and leaving his wife behind. You see admin officials being incredibly, incredibly frantic about it. And then, you know, Caitlin Collins from CNN did a really good job. She was one of the first people on air in CNN. She was going up to the security guards and the people asking them what happened.
Starting point is 00:04:16 While everyone in the room was rather shaken and couldn't figure out what was going on, I saw the clips of Caitlin Collins being like the only person going around, figuring out, then hopping on air to talk about it. So overall, an incredibly insane experience. I think that when we're in D.C. fighting for freedom of speech, freedom of press, and fighting against illiberal authoritarian ideologies, and now we're in a position where somebody is trying to enact
Starting point is 00:04:40 illiberal violence towards a president who is illiberal himself and would take away the media in one second. It's all insane. It's all despicable. We need to return to a better America. But I want to say really quickly, if you appreciate the work that Mike Nellis and I do, make sure you hit the heart. Make sure you subscribe to our substack feed.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Become a free or paid member. We are pushing every single day for a better democracy. Someone said, Stephanie Rule seemed really shaken up. Yes, this was a very real thing for a lot of people. I know that it's very easy to be online and say, yep, it was so incredibly staged.
Starting point is 00:05:12 But what you're implying there is that like Cash Patel and Donald Trump were competent enough to put together some task force to find this guy so he would give up his entire life to just run into the lobby and not make it anywhere close to two floors down. Like, I just don't. Yeah, sorry, Mike. I know that you have a lot to say. No, I mean, it's, I mean, there's a bunch of stuff to say here, and hopefully we'll get a chance to get into all of it.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I think the first thing is, is I'm glad everybody's okay. And that includes Trump and that includes Vance and then includes all the journalists in that room. And I think especially for a lot of the journalists in the room, if you listen to like the coverage on CNN, like there were people who weren't there, but were in the studio, like SC Cup, who were really shaken up about it. And I think it's because it's dangerous out there to be a journalist right now. People have face violence. We've had journalists who have been murdered. We have people who get death threats all the time. People like you and I get death threats all the time. I became a gun owner because I had a death threat from Laura Lumer herself via DM.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Like, not to make it about me. It's just like it is not an okay time. And America is sick. And I think that I'm glad that they're okay. And I want to add this too because part of the reason I'm glad that they're okay is one, political violence is never okay. And it's not how we should be dealing with our, with the disagreements that we have here,
Starting point is 00:06:23 the corruption that we seem like, I want every single one of them to live to the end of this because I want to prosecute the shit out of them. And I want to make that super clear, is that, like, I don't want Donald Trump to be shot by some random crazy person with a gun in a ballroom on live TV. I want him in an orange jumpsuit
Starting point is 00:06:38 for the crimes that he's committed. I want the same for the rest of them. And I'm, you know, so there's that. The second thing is on staged. I don't think it makes any sense for this to have been staged. Like, I just don't. Now, that's what the available
Starting point is 00:06:50 information that I have right now. I wouldn't put any of that past them because, like, we've seen what they lie about. I mean, I'll just, I'll never get over the fact that they tried to argue that Donald Trump was an FBI informant designed to take down Jeffrey Epstein. And that's why he's in the files. Like, they lied about that for like a solid 72 hours until people were like not buying it. And so they just dropped that talking point. But they lie about everything.
Starting point is 00:07:11 And so I just don't, I don't buy that this was staged. He was two floors up. He wasn't even close. And by the way, I think this is a most. moment where we all need to be a lot more discerning about who we listen to online and you should be discerning about MAGA influencers but also influencers on the left. You should be discerning about Adam and I, because neither of us is perfect. And I think what pisses me off right now and I was ranting to you about this last night, but also this morning before we hit live is like, you have
Starting point is 00:07:40 a ton of MAGA influencers on the right who didn't know anything about what had happened. They didn't know anything about the shooter. They didn't know if anybody was dead. They didn't know what it's going on. And they were immediately like, the Democrats are trying to murder our president. He survived more assassination attempts. This is why we need to build the fucking ballroom. And we know that they all have like a big signal group where the White House drops talking points in.
Starting point is 00:08:02 And that means within moments of that shooting, somebody in that, Dan Scavino or whoever the hell it is, by the way, Skavino was the one who tried to start the USA chance right after the shooting, which was also super weird. And, you know, they're all just like coordinating on like how best they can use that. and the rest of us are acting like human beings. Because my reaction to this shit was not, how do I use this to get more engagement? How do I get, I got to get a YouTube video.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I don't. It was like, holy shit, I hope nobody's dead. Because that's my reaction to it. But there were a lot of influencers on the MAGA movement that were like, I got to juice my career rewards. I got to attack the Republican, or I got to attack the Democrats. I got to get my shit out.
Starting point is 00:08:37 And like, that just pisses me off. But then I'm also going to call out some folks on the left because the is this stage, let me spread conspiracy theories, let me attack. They were attacking cats. Mattel, they were attacking Secret Service. And again, all of this is happening in the immediate aftermath of a very chaotic and scary situation where we don't know anything about what happened.
Starting point is 00:08:59 And look, maybe there will be information that comes out that doesn't make sense that makes you think that this is staged. Butler is a little bit like that. I don't really believe Butler was staged, but I do believe they're lying about aspects of it. But everybody needs to take a deep breath and not necessarily rush to the immediate judgment because the first things that get tweeted are never right. They reported that the shooter was dead. They reported that there were multiple shooters. They reported that, like, other people had been shot, and none of that turned out to be true.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And it's just everybody's got to take a deep breath and tone that down. And I can only speak for myself. And Adam, I know you to be somebody of, like, high moral character is, like, try to find the people that are just going to be honest with you about what they think is going on. And even when you disagree with them, like, I think it's fine. We're not going to agree all the time. But I'm not going to play this game. It would be so much easier for me to grow.
Starting point is 00:09:46 as a creator, if I shot a video last night about it being staged and just running with the conspiracy theories or running with like the attacks on the Secret Service last night, which I thought were gross. And I'm going to give Donald Trump like a modicum of credit because when he gave his press conference last night, I thought it was going to be insane. Like I thought he would do what he did with Charlie Kirk. And he didn't do that. Like he just kind of, it was for him, I want to be clear, we're grading him on a curve guys. But for him, it was relatively normal and measured, which also makes me think it was probably real because I think if it was, if it was, if who was staged, he would have used it for more than just the ballroom.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Like staging this to, like, justify building a ballroom is really, really stupid. Adam, I'll hand it back to you. Oh, you're muted, buddy. Oh, this is the strongest evidence they say was safe. Someone in the chat said, but the press secretary literally said there would be shots fired before that. I'm sorry, guys, that is not evidence. That was, that was Caroline Levitt using a turn of speech. She was using a phrase.
Starting point is 00:10:40 She was not planting evidence for us in substack to figure out. Either way, moving on. What's the same thing? Sorry, before. It's the same thing because, like, people are saying, like, why did they take, why did they take Vance before they took Trump? They took them at the same time. Like, you're watching a video where, like, the Secret Service has their protocol and the agents responsible for getting Trump went to get Trump and the other ones went to get Vance. Vance just got off the stage faster.
Starting point is 00:11:00 And then they came back to get the cabinet member. So, like, you are, like, picking apart a very chaotic situation. And then I frankly think all the people, and there are a lot of people I know and love who were posting the Carolyn Levick clip for saying shots are going to be fired during Trump's speech. it's just like it's just cheap engagement bait guys like she's clearly didn't she was clearly not leaving an easter egg for us sorry take it back Adam no no no I mean moving on from the stage conversation I think it was really important to plant our stake right there
Starting point is 00:11:26 and I saw someone in chat actually say Adam I didn't realize that they weren't even close to the room until now I'm starting to rethink it because like this person thought it was staged because they felt the person got into the actual dinner the person wasn't even close it actually wasn't even really that much of a security failure I mean the guy started sprinting in within five seconds he's taken down based on all the information,
Starting point is 00:11:45 they did exactly what they were supposed to do. Yeah, yeah. I think honestly, guys, crazy people in the world do exist that do do this. The president's a crazy person. He riles a lot of people up. This shit does happen. It really does.
Starting point is 00:11:55 So moving on from that, last night was supposed to be a celebration of the tradition of freedom of speech and freedom of press. I can't speak. A lot night for everybody. Dude, I sit up until 5 a.m. after the shooting and now it's 10 a.m. So we're already back on it.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I've got another brunch to head to in a bit. and then I'm flying back home, but man, it was supposed to be a celebration of the freedom of press, and all we got was more illiberal action from not only the press, but from people like Donald Trump who would happily attack the press in that room. There's just, there's so much to this that I find very interesting. It is a, it is wild to see J.D. Vance's reaction, the frantic situation, the frantic nature of it all. The video of Donald Trump falling to the ground, I know that the situation was chaotic, but I just think it's very, very, I mean, listen, Trump is old, he is frail.
Starting point is 00:12:45 And if Biden had done the same thing, whenever Biden had, like, slightly tripped, it was massive headlines. And this old frail president tripped over, fell on the ground, and they all had to pick him up. It seems like he can't move at a fast pace. And there are now, you know, more reports. There's more information kind of spreading about the shooter, about the guy who allegedly did this. and it just seems very interesting. Listen, radicalization is a real problem in America right now. So Cole Thomas Allen, a 31-year-old teacher from California on the ground
Starting point is 00:13:18 surrounded by law enforcement officers, apparently he took the train all the way to D.C. in order to do this, and he had a plot. He had a plan. Yeah. Oh, sorry, you're hitting it back to me. I mean, let's talk about radical. I want to talk about two things, which is like radicalization, and then I want to talk about this idea that the violence.
Starting point is 00:13:39 is only coming from the left from the MAGA influencers because they're insane when they say this shit, in my opinion. But like, you know, radicalization is we have like the perfect storm of a series of problems here in America today is you have a ton of disaffected young men who are lonely and isolated and spending all their time on the internet with easy access to guns, no mental health care infrastructure, no understanding of how to build an economy that works for young men. Young men are getting, I don't think people really know this. Young men are getting killed in this economy. If you are under 30 right now. You are making less money on average than women of the same age. You are significantly less likely to own a home. You were significantly less likely to start a business. You are significantly
Starting point is 00:14:17 less likely to have gone to college. So there is just a huge, huge problem. Then you tack on the fact that you have creators and influencers that are out there just spreading bullshit information and politicians that are spreading bullshit information and running people into the ground. And that includes the president of the United States. He is responsible for this as much as anybody. And I think it's just a real problem. and nobody wants to have that conversation. Nobody wants to address it. Nobody wants to do anything about gun violence or mental health or anything else.
Starting point is 00:14:42 And to me, it's like what happened, when we learn more, what we're ultimately going to find out as young disaffected man, went down an internet rabbit hole, became hyper-fixated on something and went after and did something and he shouldn't have done.
Starting point is 00:14:51 That's going to be it's almost like 100% of the time, it is always that. And then you can control for certain factors, but it's always that. That's what it's going to be. We're not going to have a combo on guns. We're not going to have a combo on mental health. We're not going to have a convo in anything else.
Starting point is 00:15:03 We didn't have it after Kirk was assassinated, okay? remove all the noise for a second. It was basically young, disaffected man gets access to a gun, shoots Charlie Kirk, because he became obsessed with Kirk. Melissa Hortman wasn't a young man and was a Trump supporter,
Starting point is 00:15:16 it was an older guy, but still basically the same thing, right? Like, these people are crazy and they have access to guns, and then there's no mental health care infrastructure. There's no way for people to be able to flag these folks in advance because we'll also find out, very likely, that he told somebody this,
Starting point is 00:15:28 that there was some other incidents, usually never just like one incident. Like, people don't crack like that. Very rarely is it something like that. And so I think we need to, be mindful of that, but then there's a secondary thing, which is like, if I open up my ex account on my phone right now, it's going to be like Michael Knowles and Tommy Laren being like,
Starting point is 00:15:46 the bullets are only flying one way. The left is violent, blah, blah, blah. So like, let's talk about that because I want your reaction to this, because it's just me up at night. All mad. Like, they're going to talk about this and they're going to say the left has tried to assassinate their president at least three times. They're not trying to argue it's been like 10 times.
Starting point is 00:16:04 I don't know. But, you know, they will never say Melissa Hortman's name. Melissa Hortman was the Minnesota legislator, along with her husband, was assassinated by a Trump supporter. They will not talk about the kidnap, the potential kidnapping of Gretchen Whitmer. They will not talk about the attacks on Ilhan Omar or AOC. They won't talk about all the Democratic Party headquarters
Starting point is 00:16:21 that have had bullets shot at them. They won't talk about all the headquarters. They've had bricks thrown through their walls with, like, messages about MAGA and Trump and shit like that. They will not talk about January 6th. They will not talk about Charlottesone. On the last two, when they talk about them, when there is very clear political violence that comes from the right,
Starting point is 00:16:37 they concoct a conspiracy theory to weasel their way out of taking responsibility for it. So with Charlottesville, which was almost 10 years now, which is with the launching point of Nick Fuentes, who built this old Groyper movement around being there and being held accountable for that, they've been arguing for years that it was a peaceful rally, filled with very fine people on both sides, yada, yada, yada, that nothing was wrong.
Starting point is 00:16:59 And now the entire FBI and DOJ are indicting the Southern Pover Law Center based on a conspiracy theory that they are propping up hate groups because they're paying informants inside those hate groups to report on what they were doing and they were reporting that information to the FBI to understand those organizations and to understand what they were doing and who they were going to hurt. But now they're saying, well, the Southern Poverty Law Center planned all of Charlotte's bill, which means that the left is actually propping up all our hate and there's no right-wing hate groups. There's no right-wing hate. So there's that. Then on January 6, which is the other clearest example of hate on the right and violence on the right, they say,
Starting point is 00:17:31 Well, there were undercover FBI agents in the crown. And because they were undercover FBI agents in the crowd, the FBI planned the entire thing. But it was also a day of love. It was a day of peace. Nothing bad happened. Donald Trump wasn't trying to cite an erection. Excuse me. Oh, my Lord.
Starting point is 00:17:45 We're really tired today. We're really tired today. We're going to an hotel room. Six-year-old kid. It moves every five minutes. We're real tired today. He's trying to incite an insurrection. And they can't keep their stories straight.
Starting point is 00:17:59 But it's disgusting. And the truth is. is if you just look at the statistics, violence from the right is far more likely by a significant margin, but there's also violence on the left. And there are people on the left who say things that are violent. There are clips of like Hassan Piker and you can feel whatever you want about him saying some pretty horrible shit about our political enemies. And I don't like stuff like that. You'll never hear me talk like that. But we should call it all out. And we should be trying to work together to solve this stuff because we have a sick country with a bad economy and shitty
Starting point is 00:18:28 leaders and we should be trying to solve this, but instead everybody's rushing on Twitter because the incentive structure is broken so you get more followers and more money and more engagement if you go, it was fake or the left did it or I will, you know, like that Matt Van Schwoll guy that's on X who's like a fucking con artist. Like he woke up this morning. He was like, I went to bed angry. I woke up angry and the left is trying to kill my president. And I'm like, in hell, these people have no original thoughts at all, none. And I'm so tired of this bullshit. Dude, it was pissing me off. They burned down Josh Spiro's house.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Thank you, the people in the comments. Like, they tried to burn down Josh Spear's house. Exactly. It was pissing me off so much when they're like, I think we really need to talk about the rhetoric coming from the left. And it's like, are we effing serious here? Go fuck yourself. There's a radicalized person who is basically a nobody doing this.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And every single Democrat in office, every single Democratic influencer will immediately come out and condemn this and say political violence is bad. On the other side of that, the Republican Party is, led by somebody whose entire cabinet is full of the most hyperbolic, sensationalist, apocalyptic people possible. The way that Stephen Miller and Donald Trump speak about their political opponents is they don't
Starting point is 00:19:38 want the Democratic Party to exist. Stephen Miller says the Democratic Party is not a real political party. It is a domestic extremist organization. They call us terrorists. Terrorists. They say that we're terrorists. And then when some random guy walks in or I guess sprints into this hotel lobby, apparently he represents the entire left.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I'm sorry, but no. genuinely ragged supporters I think that can go fuck themselves the president like two weeks ago maybe three weeks ago made fun of rob muller right after he passed away the president two months ago made fun of rob rhiner and like basically danced on his grave right after rob riner passed away as well or was actually brutally murdered by his kid which makes it even worse so we have one side of the aisle that is led by people who constantly want to escalate to the highest levels and then we have democrats who are actually quite like weak and feckless like what's the theory here that chuck schumman and Hakeem Jeffries are radicalizing people into doing this shit. No, I mean, Democrats are rather boring. Okay, so then they could be like, oh, no, the far lefties, like AOC. What? AOC is very, very sweet, personable. She's somebody who's not going to, I think, call for political violence.
Starting point is 00:20:43 The Democratic Party is so much more responsible with our rhetoric. It also kind of goes back to what you were saying. You open up Twitter and people are just spreading so much disinformation. Laura Lumer are saying this guy's a registered Democrat. Turns out that's false. It turns out they're lying. So kind of going back to the stage things, Two things can be true at once.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Is this administration and the MAGA influencers? Are they going to lie and take advantage of this and use this to their maximum advantage? Obviously, of course. But that doesn't mean like the impetus, the entire groundwork of it was laid out by Cash Patel while he was drinking in a bar with his eyes crossed. I just don't see it like that.
Starting point is 00:21:15 No, and the point I will make is... Wait, really, really, sorry to cut you off. Take a moment and support independent commentary if you appreciate what Mike and I are doing. Mike and I put a lot of work into these live streams about two times a week. And then we also post them on YouTube after. We live, breathe, and survive with you guys on independent media.
Starting point is 00:21:32 So if you want to become a free subscriber on Substack, it is free. And if you want to help support us and growing our team, then you can become a paid subscriber as well. Back to you, Mike, sorry about them. Well, the point I make about the Republicans all the time, and I've been saying this, like, since the Obama years, because they had this idea of Barack Obama that did not jive with reality of who he was, right? Like, to them.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And we should remind people that Donald Trump thought that Barack Obama was like a Muslim born in Kenya. So like I just think it's important that we remind people that Donald Trump is a conspiracy theorist at heart. But they call it running against ghosts. Like they run against ghosts. They create an image of us of who we are and what we say, what we believe in, and then they run against that. And when we're fucking up and the economy is not good or we've got the situation with Joe Biden, it works for them because people are mad at us. But then regular people are like, what are you guys talking about? Because they're not being normal.
Starting point is 00:22:20 So like they're all on X right now. They think they're winning on X because they're getting cheap engagement. from a million Russian bots about how bad we all are. But the average American, like, is watching basketball. Like, they wanted the NBA game back on. They were done the minute they found out that nobody had been hurt. They moved on like normal people do. And it's disgusting, and it drives me nuts.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And the other thing is, like, I had, so you mentioned Lumer. Lumer might be is the Joker to my Batman or I'm Batman or Joker, depending on your POV. But, like, you know, she, she tweeted at me last night of a, of a, an older tweet where I was reminding them that they have a lot of Nazis inside the Republican Party
Starting point is 00:23:01 and I had said something that was like this I think I was on News Nation but it was when it was the name Paul and Gracia was the guy. Yep, Paul and Grosia. Talking about having a Nazi streak. He still works in the admin by the way. He's just not a... He was using slurs from like the 1700s from like people he was like, well by the way, there was
Starting point is 00:23:17 a video of Michael Knowles going around where he was like hey everybody let's tell our favorite slur. Like he was like, let's tell our favorite racial slur. And then he was like using one from like the 1600s and he thought he was being clever. And Ben Shapiro sitting there going, I guess not. Sliparish. But, you know, I got brought on TV to talk about Paul and Grascia. And, and I said something that was basically like, if you like me to stop calling the Republican
Starting point is 00:23:36 party and not, if you like to, if the Republicans want to stop being called Nazis, maybe they should stop hiring them. And she was like, whoa, Mike Nellis is inciting violence against the president. And be like, no, I'm not. You guys have Nazis inside your party. Okay. Like, you do. And like, you know, nan people, and I didn't respond to her, but then other people were like, Mike doesn't have anything to say about Graham Platner having a Nazi. tattoo, which isn't even remotely the same. But like, it's just, like, it's so ridiculous. And by the way, I have spoken out about the tattoo that Grand Platner has. I think that tattoo is ridiculous. It gives me
Starting point is 00:24:04 a lot of pause about the guy. He's still going to win that primary no matter what I do. But, like, it's just ridiculous. And there's a group of people in this country. And it's, it's Laura Lumer, and it's Riley Gaines, and it's Tommy Leran. And it's all these people who know original thoughts. It's the same shit all the time. And the minute that Donald Trump leaves office or dies, whichever comes first, they become immediately irrelevant because they have nothing. Then there's like a different batch of influencers that are like running with it and they'll be around after because they have some originality to it, even if I think they're ridiculous. That's what like Shapiro will still be around after. But like Lumer is gone the minute this is.
Starting point is 00:24:42 So when you see them online the way they're reacting, they're like, they're like robbing a bank. Okay. Like they have like five minutes until the cops show up and they're put as much money in their bag as they can so they can hit the getaway car because they are gone. Gone, January, 2029. We will never see them again. We'll never hear from a lot of them again. And thank God, they'll go live on a private island somewhere with all the fucking money they've made
Starting point is 00:25:03 and hopefully just leave people alone. But very few, they're disgusting. There's disgusting. I'm just tired of it. I think that's a good place to end it. You said a bit ago, you know, you touched on the radicalization piece. And I guess I want to end it there because I have, you know, experienced with a lot of my young friends, this sort of online rabbit hole,
Starting point is 00:25:23 obviously not the type of radicalization we're seeing in like like tyler thomas matthew crooks or the uh the charlie kirk shooter but no young people are struggling due to a few compounding factors already social media was making it very very hard already wealth inequality was making it very very hard in like 2019 but imagine how much the covid pandemic made many many young people build this bubble around themselves people of all ages building this bubble staying inside all the time and a lot of people didn't tear down that bubble after. I had to make a very intentional effort to go get outside more, to hang out more, to go on dates more, to talk more girls. And then I bounced back socially, but a lot of people did not bounce back socially. A lot of people continue to go further and further down these rabbit
Starting point is 00:26:03 holes. There's a photo of the Tyler Cook, the Charlie Kirk shooter. I can't I speak today? Neither of us can speak. Tyler, it's Sunday. It's supposed to be our day off. Yeah, yeah. I was going to make another erection joke, but I'll save it for a late. That's going to get clipped. It's going to get clipped and it's going to be used against me at some point. It's honestly pretty hilarious, but either way, there's a clip on. You know what the worst part is? It's not the first time I've done that either. There was a photo of Tyler Robinson from like 2010 when he got his first laptop as like an eight year old. And my mom sent that to me or I sent it to her and we were like, dude, that was like a parallel to me. That could have been me basically. I got my first
Starting point is 00:26:42 laptop at nine. I was playing the same video games at nine, except I took a path where I built a company and built a business so I can be here with all of you beautiful people. He obviously took a much darker path. He was radicalized online. He was radicalized in these deep, deep rabbit holes. It gets brought down. It happens to people on the far, far right, all of the time, sometimes on the far, far left as well.
Starting point is 00:27:01 People get radicalized into being apathetic and thinking they can take lives. And it's really bad. So when you have COVID, basically exacerbating this algorithmic problem of people being sucked in to this outrage machine, then you have foreign and domestic actors creating more outrage.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Think about people like Donald Trump, creating outrage. Think about people like Elon Musk who promotes and boosts the most divisive stuff on Twitter. Think about countries like Russia, China, Iran. They want to sow divisiveness in the United States, so they want to weaken cohesion and make people disillusioned. We have all of these people trying to sow division in the United States with young people who are already lost, already can't get a job. I mean, there is a statistic that young men who go to college and graduate are now finding jobs at the same exact rate
Starting point is 00:27:50 is young men who just don't go to college at all. So it's like, well, what's the point then? That's a really weird incentive structure. So basically to like wrap this all up in a bow, a lot of people are struggling. And not just young people. I'm speaking to the framework of a young person because I am one, but many people are struggling with this type of online radicalization.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Someone in Scha pointed out, AI is making it worse. People have these bubbles around themselves that they don't pull down. If I had to bet money, Tyler Robinson, the Charlie Kirk Shooter, likely had bubble around himself, metaphorically, that he just never really broke out of, never really got socialized more after COVID. And this is all compounding into making a really, really scary environment. And you know who I blame it a lot on, most on, 99% on is Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:28:29 There is no both sides of this shit. There is no democratic equivalent of the way that Donald Trump ramps up the tension in our politics. I know that we had a discussion trying to hold people to our side on account with the stage stuff, but I don't want people to ever think that we're trying to both sides it. Hell no, there is no both sides to this. The Republican Party is despicable with the way they create and so radicalization and fear in America. I find it despicable. And Mike,
Starting point is 00:28:50 let's continue to do these live streams. The 1.8,000 people watching. If you want to support. You mind if I add something to the end of that? Because I think everything you just said is really well said. The only slight pushback I have is like, I think that Trump remains a symptom of the problem. The problem exists far beyond.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Now, he's like the most glaring. Like he's the tumor, right? But the tumor was caused by sugar, right? Or whatever it is. And it's just the tech companies have intention. removed community and friction from our lives in a way that humanity is not ready for, which has created those bubbles. And then Congress's lack of action has created so much damage for people. And you hear these stories about young kids who are hurting themselves. You hear
Starting point is 00:29:35 these hate groups that get started on Reddit and elsewhere. And it's just, it's a real problem. And it has led to Donald Trump, but like it will still be a problem after him. And what I worry about is that it keeps getting worse until we deal with the actual problem. And then the second thing I want to add, I just want to relate to you a bit. Like, I'm an older guy. I'm almost 40 now. And I use the term death of despair. I don't know if you're familiar with that, but that's a death of like, particularly young men from like alcoholism, drug abuse, hurting themselves, that kind of thing. And those rates are through the roof, particularly for white men and coming around the COVID year, I darned mere lost my life from weighing 600 pounds, not taking care of myself, having ideation.
Starting point is 00:30:20 I can't use the terms. We'll put this up on YouTube later, and they will knock us if I use the term that I want, but on alive, I think is the term that the kids use. And it was a scary time. It would have been really easy for me to have, like, died of a heart attack or died of, like, drinking too much alcohol in my 20s or died of whatever. And I'm still here, but there are a lot of people that aren't. And Congress is not interested in dealing with that. And it's just, it's not right that we're not addressing this stuff. And it leads to, I think, what happened last night and we'll know more as we go at least what happened to charlie kirkleys what happened everything and i just we're spiraling out of control particularly with young men and i don't know if
Starting point is 00:30:55 i don't know that it's going to get better and until we elect we need new leadership at every level we need new democratic leadership we need new republican leadership like we got a we got to clean the house almost completely like i i said this i may have said this in our live yesterday but it kind of feels like um that year you're too young to remember this because you weren't even born yet but like there was a year on SNL when the ratings were terrible and Lauren Michaels fired everybody but Eddie Murphy. And I feel like right now if you're in the senator of the house, you got to prove you're Eddie Murphy.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Otherwise, get the fuck out. Because I'm tired of it. And, you know, you can be good on TV. You could be good at creating a social media clip. If you didn't get anything done, if you went addressing the issues and using power the right way, I don't care. You're useless to me.
Starting point is 00:31:34 So I'll end there. But I want to thank everybody. I'll close it out of it. It's okay, Adam, just say thank you to everybody for being here. Make sure that you support Adam McAler, Mike Nellis on Substack, YouTube. everywhere you get your show, hit the like button and engage with the video, leave a comment, hype if you're watching it on YouTube,
Starting point is 00:31:50 like whatever you do to be a part of this, every little bit's an act of resistance. We're both building independent media companies to take down Donald Trump to defeat this MAGA movement. And I really believe that we can. And it's a scary day in America today, but we will be okay if we keep pulling together, if we keep doing the hard work and having tough conversations like this one.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Love you guys. Peace out. Love you guys. Thank you.

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